WHY WE DECIDED AGAINST A SUPER C FOR OUR NEXT MOTORHOME!

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27 күн бұрын

In this video, we explain why we have decided against a Super C motorhome for our next motorhome. Some of the reasons may surprise you!
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@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 26 күн бұрын
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@MG-xv5bo
@MG-xv5bo 25 күн бұрын
Love this video like all your others! My advice to you Izzy is choose HAPPY! Happy Wife Happy Life 😁💕
@javabean215
@javabean215 25 күн бұрын
A class A is "queen of the campground". A super C is "king of the road". It really, really depends on your needs and wants. If you prioritize comfort when you're driving and parked over the quality of the drive getting there, then the class A is the way to go. If you spend a lot of time on the road and prioritize the drive, where comfort and amenities are a close second thought, then the super C is the one you should look at. Super C is more of a visceral driving experience, while the class A is more of a luxury experience.
@Spad68
@Spad68 24 күн бұрын
Very well said
@suzisimmons8578
@suzisimmons8578 22 күн бұрын
We picked safety over storage and space with our Renegade and we couldn’t be happier! My hubby loves driving it and I love the safety and living space.
@rschmidt320
@rschmidt320 24 күн бұрын
Also, If you put a brush guard on a Super C and you hit a deer, you are still rolling down the highway. Try that with an A class, your RV is in the shop for quite a while.
@ron7447
@ron7447 25 күн бұрын
We are definitely fans of the Super C. I used to drive a truck, so I like having everything up front. Whatever you get, enjoy it. Take care 😊
@lonab324
@lonab324 25 күн бұрын
We’ve had fifth wheels, gas class A and now a super C. I absolutely love driving the super c. All of the things Izzy mentioned concerning safety, drivability, etc. Driving our class was exhausting. I think a lot of it depends on where you’re driving these vehicles too. we drive in Arkansas and Southwest Missouri a lot. Highways with no shoulders lots of hills and curves. The class A was horrible on those roads. I take drivability and sense of security over a little extra basement space any day.
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@JEEPIMPACT
@JEEPIMPACT 24 күн бұрын
I think the servicability of the Super C seals the deal. The class A just seems like a bigger headache.
@calliepoma2899
@calliepoma2899 25 күн бұрын
45 ' Renegade XL 605 Hp with 26' stacker trailer twin screws need I say more !!!!!
@williampickett3938
@williampickett3938 13 сағат бұрын
AS A RETIRED TRUCKER W THAT OWED PETERBILTS I LIKSUPER C ON A PETE CHASIS THANKS FOR THE VIDEO I ENJOY THE BOTH OF YOU YOU'RE GREAT
@user-yz1jx3bc9l
@user-yz1jx3bc9l 17 күн бұрын
We have been rving for a long long time. Truck camper, 2 travel trailers, 2 Class C's and 5 Class A's (all Newmar, 2 gas, 3 diesel). Our 2024 Dutch Star 4081 is great. Took delivery 4/1 and have put over 5000 miles on it already. One of the first stops was NIRVC for RetroBands and ProTeng system. Wouldn't have any else. Keith
@CG99234
@CG99234 6 күн бұрын
Super C all the way! I've never owned a motorhome, but have been on trips with others. One time headed to Daytona bike week in my bud's class A. Front hub spun off the axle. Took over an hour just to find someone willing to tow the motorhome. Then had heck of time trying to find hook up points underneath. After that it took a week to fix. Yes, we were not on their schedule, but mostly because of the type of chassis. Was an industry RV only chassis, with RV only parts. Not like anything normally in stock. My bud ended finding most of the parts via RV sites and chat rooms. Plus, we had to stay in a hotel as the vehicle was locked up in their garage. That week alone was enough for me to never look at a class A. Love the Cascadia chassis. Towing, parts, and mechanics everywhere and anywhere.
@blackanodize1
@blackanodize1 24 күн бұрын
I currently have a Class A diesel pusher and am actively looking to switch to a Super C. One of my main reasons is that I prefer the engine in the front for safety reasons, as well as the simplicity of being able to get engine service done at almost any truck shop. Secondly, with the ever-growing number of grandkids, I can get bunks as well as sleeping over the cab. Thirdly, we tow an enclosed trailer, and I feel the Super C has a better tow rating. Fourthly, I prefer the firmer feel of the front end of the Super C and the fact that it feels more planted on the road compared to a Class A. However, there are some things we don't like about the Super C, such as the limited floor plans available, especially the lack of kitchen counter space. I do a lot of cooking for groups of friends on our trips and need all the kitchen counter space I can get. Additionally, as you mentioned, the storage space underneath is limited.
@markbivens277
@markbivens277 25 күн бұрын
Ease of towing ,servicability at truck stops. Having the engine in the front with a super C Having to get out of the class A to work on the engine .I like having the rear door to get out. I also like that the wheels are up front, like a car, not behind me,
@dalehuber6281
@dalehuber6281 25 күн бұрын
The only input i can offer is to do exactly what you are doing-drive, drive, drive! I appreciate the information you provide; it cuts down my legwork and helps me narrow my search. Keep it up, please.
@davidhidalgo1331
@davidhidalgo1331 25 күн бұрын
As you guys mention, there are pros and cons of each!! Not withstanding such, the best advice I can give you from a long time RV'er is whatever you decide to get....don't settle!!! Get what you really want and don't look back!!! Life is just to short!! Maybe that Newell is looking even better??? Love you guys!😊
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 24 күн бұрын
Thanks 😊
@richbowie76
@richbowie76 3 күн бұрын
My favorite thing about my super C is the 6 to 8 mpg ! I feel like i'm stimulating the economy !
@Capt-John-T-Moore
@Capt-John-T-Moore 25 күн бұрын
I appreciate your passion for these types of Rv’s. Not our thing though. Our passion is for the ORV TT offgrid style of RVing. Enjoy your videos!
@StevePriddle
@StevePriddle 24 күн бұрын
Hello Izzy. Love ur passion that both of you have for rving. My wife and beat it death when we make rv decisions. I agree a Class A has more room and storage. But you had pros and cons in your analysis which is true. But we had a 2022 Renegade Verona 40 VRB. After a year and half and 13K miles I kept looking at the Reegade Explorer 40ERB. Many different ones hold said there was no comparison to the Verona vocational chassis compared to the over the road chassis Cascadia. Well let me tell you they were not wrong. It is a much better driving experience and has much less leaning. We now have over 10K in miles since our purchase in November from Performance Motor Coach in Wolforth, TX. Darin Benton is the owner as does many KZbin videos of these type of units. Please take the time to drive one. A true semi truck.
@tracygeise7933
@tracygeise7933 24 күн бұрын
We are on the process of purchasing our "retirement" home now. It is a Dynamax DX3 Super C. We like the safety of the engine up front. Our comment about clas is A's is we didn't want to be first to the accident 😅. Safety of the truck cab is our main plus. Cost and other considerations are also part of it. We plan to travel a lot, so wanted an RV that was meant to be driven. It all comes down to what your plans are, what you can afford, and what your pros and cons are.
@kevingoins4542
@kevingoins4542 25 күн бұрын
We had a SuperStar 4081, brand new. The floor plan was great, etc. Ours was really noisy in the front of the cab. You lose 10ft of living space with the engine in the front. The turning radius was terrible. The so called captains chairs in the front will take an hour to turn around etc...Going with a Dutchstar so much better!
@JeffinSouthernTierNY
@JeffinSouthernTierNY 25 күн бұрын
It’ll be fun watching you guys look for your next motor home (assuming you take us along)! Have you ever considered going to the Motor Coach Store in Florida? He sells high end, very well maintained RVs (which you probably know), you could test drive a Prevost conversion and a Newell! Think of the content!! 😜😊🤷‍♂️
@mike4769
@mike4769 23 күн бұрын
As a driver I've seen too many accidents with rv's especially ones like class a that fell apart in serious accidents. I've seen class a with only the 2 captain chairs left on the frame. The rest of the rv was disintegrated into pieces. The safety of the metal cab of the super c in a serious accident outweighs the loss of space. If you are talking about a family I would consider a used bus conversion/prevost to take my family in. They have early 2000 prevost for under 200k.
@carolconnell9521
@carolconnell9521 25 күн бұрын
If you are ok with the upfront cost, I’d go with a diesel pusher class A. Lots of floor plans to choose from and quiet ride. I’ve had many different rigs and I have to say that my class A was the best.
@outlaw36sst
@outlaw36sst 24 күн бұрын
i dont want to look like a simp but i have to say that i love your videos , they are not full of ......you guys are are straight arrows and i really like that . i am not surprised that you are a police officer . you walk the straight and narrow and no bla bla bla....keep at it . thanks
@hcrffi
@hcrffi 22 күн бұрын
Super-C is great, but the Class-A has a much better turning radius. Tight parking lots, RV Parks, and streets, you will appreciate the turning radius of a Class-A especially if the tag wheels turns or lifts.
@babyboy6179
@babyboy6179 5 күн бұрын
Look into a used 2002 to 2008 h3-45 prevost coach and you will love it.
@thomaslanger6504
@thomaslanger6504 25 күн бұрын
I drive a C for the last 8 years. Always wanted a super. Finally found one. The Coachman Entourage. I live in the north and am spoiled in that I have a warehouse to park and I don’t have to winterize. Most are too tall to fit into my door. Until now with the new coachman. Waiting till one comes with heated floors, outside kitchen, and a few feet shorter. Lol Keep up the great content. I do love my Brooklyn mattress.
@janehargis9301
@janehargis9301 25 күн бұрын
I’ll be buying my first RV in the next few months and I’ve been researching the Entourage. It will be my first RV. How are you liking it? Any regrets or things you’d do differently next time? I’d appreciate any input. Have fun and thank you.
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@tombrown8522
@tombrown8522 24 күн бұрын
We are looking at getting a super C but we want it on a Ford chassis with the 6.7. Right now it's down to either Thor or Jayco. Thor is a better quality build, but Jayco is less expensive. Probably going to wait until Hershey to pull the trigger!
@RickHopp-qz6pf
@RickHopp-qz6pf 18 күн бұрын
You did not mention that the class C and SuperC have way more sleeping capacity. We looked at, toured and drove a lot of class As. All have very limited sleeping capacity. Most of them were 4 or 5. We take the kids and grandkids multiple times a year
@terryjohnson8364
@terryjohnson8364 24 күн бұрын
Super C hands down, safety is more important than big window. Wife had rear end collision last year and is now very scared of that big window. But our unit is 2 years old and we lost 70,000 of equity driving it off the lot now cannot trade to get a Super C ourselves
@mikemakar1220
@mikemakar1220 25 күн бұрын
I loved this video and love watching you both. I wound up buying an InTech Terra Willow largely because of you. While I really like it, I would rather have found that I would prefer a drivable because of the convenience. I am heavily leaning towards Renegade because of the advantages you listed in your video. I think they offer the best value in my price range which is $200k to $300k. I would love a Show Hauler but too much for me. I will be really watching any videos you have on this topic as maybe I will be drawn to class A like you. There are some good options but I keep going back to service issue more than anything. I think it will be much better with a class c as we plan on traveling a lot. I’m fearful of breaking down and having a hard time finding someone to service the RV.
@user-er6pt5mr2d
@user-er6pt5mr2d 23 күн бұрын
For me it 100% super C over a class A. The big choice would be which one of the two I have narrowed it down to.
@michaeliversen7433
@michaeliversen7433 25 күн бұрын
You are not comparing apples to apples. A Renegade cascasia DD16 is not a comparison to any class A. The M2 is like a gas puller. We had them all. A 16 liter up front has cushion, 3 doors, more head room and way more space. The class A has more “bling” that breaks in the long run. When call driving a true super c is more stable. The storage is not that big of a deal. If you need that more storage, which we never do , in 20 years, get a stacker trailer. Safety, safety and price guys.
@harperfamilyadventures5309
@harperfamilyadventures5309 24 күн бұрын
We just traded our 24 Fleetwood discovery 44B in on a 24 Dynamax DX3. We had a super c on the S2RV chassis that we traded for the class A. Our discovery was beautiful but we aren’t full timers and really didn’t need all the room that we thought we wanted. Our Dynamax drives IMO 100% better than our Discovery. Good luck in whatever you decide. Loving this Dynamax
@mario_G155
@mario_G155 25 күн бұрын
Like yourselves, we have a class A. It’s a gasser, but that is what we have now. I like the information you provided, and it helped me greatly.
@williamlambert2865
@williamlambert2865 25 күн бұрын
Well, super C’s don’t sway when passing larger trucks, two, a whole lot easier to do it yourself maintenance, three, go to a NASCAR Race, back on the grass, a twin screw will pull you out of the grass and mud.
@janehargis9301
@janehargis9301 25 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing your pros and cons. I’m still very much waffling between a Super C and an A after over a year of research. Part of my problem is that I haven’t had a chance to drive either one. I’ll be brand new to RVing and I’ve been retired for a few years. I’d be fairly comfortable testing out a Super C. I don’t even know about driving a Class A and if I don’t know I doubt any dealership would want me to learn on their dime. Sigh. I had one friend that had an RV when I was in my 30s but I know no one who could let me test drive their rig in a big parking lot. I live just south of Houston so perhaps I should take lessons somewhere but don’t you need to have your rig beforehand? Ah well, it will all work out. Meanwhile, I’m watching, listening and learning. Keep it up and thank you!
@aeconsulting1
@aeconsulting1 23 күн бұрын
Great video, with great content and lots of great comments. Even so I like Super C, a Class A for us works better, but we are also not driving that much. Agree with a previous comment it depends on your needs and wants.
@mfitzpatrick7578
@mfitzpatrick7578 21 күн бұрын
The first thing we will consider when we buy our next motorhome is SERVICE. We have a Sprinter-based diesel class C MH. Getting good service for the camper parts is the industry's big problem. Servicing the chassis at our local Mercedes dealer is easy. You should see if the drive is an acceptable trade-off for better service.
@thomastheys6681
@thomastheys6681 25 күн бұрын
OK, you guys this might be a little lengthy but back in the 70s I drove a truck a real truck a Peterbilt cab over was supposed to the incredible truck I ever drove. When I finally bought my recent motorhome, which was a 2007 Monaco I bought it brand new. It gave me the same as sitting over those wheels on the front axle that the old Pete gave me the noise.! I have driven this motorhome now for almost 17 years and it is still spectacular. I have kept it up. I have repainted clearcoated and when I pull into a park people come out to say wow is that brand new? I love to tell them it’s 17 years old, but I’m the only owner, and if and when I go to sell this coach, someone will receive one of the best motorhomes ever built Diesel is the way to go and I hope you guys find your way there Super I love the way they look but not for me. Keep up the great work. Love you guys Thomyt
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 24 күн бұрын
Thanks Thomy.
@raoulroberts2024
@raoulroberts2024 25 күн бұрын
I think you should get a Super-C on a Volvo 860 VNL chassis. Smooth ride for MJ, truck features for Izzy, safety features for you both.
@janehargis9301
@janehargis9301 25 күн бұрын
Who makes the RV that meets those specs? I’m still doing research for my first RV purchase and I’d appreciate any info you can share!
@sfcjones2590
@sfcjones2590 24 күн бұрын
@@janehargis9301 Renegade will do it on a Volvo Chassis
@hatroq
@hatroq 7 күн бұрын
@@janehargis9301 Renegade and Show Hauler will both build on VNL chassis. Great choice if "smooth ride" is a big item for you.
@jdlaw4216
@jdlaw4216 22 күн бұрын
Interesting video and feedback. We've (@WingingIt.Fulltime) have been FT for over 8 yrs approaching 9. We started in a 2007 Monaco Dynasty 40' with tag axle and all the luxurious with only 17K miles. FFWD past (3) 5th wheels (mid to high end) and an Airstream Classic 28' we ended up last summer in a 2022 Renegade Valencia 38' and another Jeep. Have done OR to FL and currently in AK (2nd time) and haven't had a single problem with it, zilch. Since we are 80% boondocks (west/SW us our primary hangout) we love the fact we can stay off-grid 2-3 weeks easily with the amazing large tanks ...and if course the solar and lithium. Can't comment on other brands but we love Renegade and the build quality is tops in our book...as well as the customer support and satisfaction. Yeah it's more like driving a truck...vs a class A but think the advantage easily outweigh the disadvantages. Oh we can tow 20K if needed.
@jeffphillips7400
@jeffphillips7400 24 күн бұрын
The Renegade Verona is on the M2 chassis and when you step up to an Explorer or a Classic... it's a whole new game. We love our Verona.
@lindac9347
@lindac9347 24 күн бұрын
Maybe go see Doug at the Motorcoach store in Bradenton FL. I bet you can test drive a Prevost there. 🤷‍♀️🤗
@lorrieleaver2447
@lorrieleaver2447 20 күн бұрын
As long as I have been looking for the right one as soon as I saw the Super C I knew it was going to provide everything I needed. Safety is paramount especially post covid as people are driving far more aggressively and it’s getting worse. The only thing that has stopped me in my tracks is the likelihood that all RVS will require new engines to meet the upcoming changes to motor emissions. Until we know what the future is going to be the likely loss is potentially unaffordable for most people. Older models that are not selling but have low mileage are potentially going to hang on to some of their value but newer models will rocket in price. What are your thoughts? Be safe please ♥️🤍💙
@paulsouza85
@paulsouza85 25 күн бұрын
One thing nobody’s comparing is washing the front end of a super C versus a class A My first super C had the big bunk over the cab, what a pain to wash and dry. Our new super C has the aero cap, no bunk, still a chore compared to a class A,
@larrylasiter5438
@larrylasiter5438 24 күн бұрын
We have a new Newmar Super C and love it. We traded in a Dutch Star. We agree with your comments. A challenge for Super Cs you didn’t mention is that they have a larger turning radius. That takes some getting used to. The Super C is much easier to drive particularly for staying centered in your lane. It is more like driving your pickup truck. Good video!
@dawntaylor8660
@dawntaylor8660 25 күн бұрын
I'm still leaning towards a Super C 1. Because of safety for the driver 2. If you have to get maintenance while on the road it's easier and more convenient 3. Several people have described driving a Class A is like driving a boat on land lol But yes, test driving is a must We just don't have any dealerships close to us that sell them so it will have to be a road trip and a several day stay for us to choose
@thecasualrver
@thecasualrver 24 күн бұрын
I have not driven the SuperStar or the SupremeAir, but both still retain the air cab, one of very few super C's in the industry that still retain the airbags of the cab (super C manufactures delete the air bags and use blocks to support the cab. I'm surprised the ride quality was not good or better then the rest even through it's still a straight axle.
@davidhannan2023
@davidhannan2023 24 күн бұрын
Next time you’re in Florida swing by “The Motorcoach Store” and test drive some his used Prevost and Newell’s. Gives you a much safer body and still get all the luxury and storage space. Also, with “Retro Band from NIRVC, you will be safe. Brad would love to have you there!
@jmb-cm7mr
@jmb-cm7mr 24 күн бұрын
We have a towable Runaway Camper 😂 made in Ocala Florida 2 beds for sleeping and its 13' long and 8'wide. Very little maintenance and pulls like a breeze. Its not for everyone but we love our camper.
@betterwithrum
@betterwithrum 25 күн бұрын
We have a towable, I feel like the motorized is a whole different world. All these names are foreign to me. Love tuning in to learn though.
@doylekstewart
@doylekstewart 25 күн бұрын
You are obviously doing your research and your decision will not be impulsive. Keep doing the pros and cons. When you finally make your decision, own it and don't let the naysayers get you down. It is a lot about preference. Personally, I like the C over the A. With the C, I feel like I am hauling my house around with me. With the A, I feel like I live in my car since I get in and out from the cockpit. If you only drive once a week, but live in it every day, that can make a difference. Perhaps you put a little TLC into your current rig and see what you feel like when you go to "most timer". I also like the C with a over cab bed for the non-paying guests, so you do not have to give up your living room for them to sleep. Sure, you can get a DP with a drop-down bed, but that blocks your entry/exit. I would not want to be in that situation in an emergency, nor do I want to wake up my visiting friend/family that is resting in a drop-down bunk so I can do the early morning walk or take the dog out.
@toddwmac
@toddwmac 25 күн бұрын
Great vid and super helpful...thanks! The service and safety issues are major factors for us, I'd love to see some actual data on those topics vs. anecdotal commentary from dealers and commenters. If you have any, please share.
@wagnerl555
@wagnerl555 25 күн бұрын
I had a 2018 Newmar Dutch Star, traded it in last year on a 2007 Liberty Prevost Coach, the Prevo chassis is phenomenal to drive nothing like a Spartan or freightliner way better! And the liberty build holds up to their claim of no rattles and squeaks! On the downside, the Detroit has plenty of power, but is a little thirsty!
@duaneclark3539
@duaneclark3539 24 күн бұрын
@@wagnerl555 Mine is a bit more than a little thirsty 2006 H3-45 featherlite. But a fabulous machine no doubt.
@captjim97
@captjim97 26 күн бұрын
Another great video guys!! We have had a 5th wheel toy hauler for the last 8 years. We are eagerly awaiting the arrival of our 2025 Super C that we ordered at the Florida RV Supershow this last January. This will be our first motorized RV. We liked the look of the Super C’s over the Class A’s and also loved having that engine in the front. Like you both said, there is no perfect RV. I’m hoping that we enjoy our new rig !!
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 25 күн бұрын
We are sure you will!!
@Hugo-Hernandez
@Hugo-Hernandez 25 күн бұрын
If you don’t mind asking why are you getting rid of your toy hauler ? I have a 37 foot TT. I been thinking of getting a toy hauler, so I can bring a SxS or golf cart with me. As well I still have my truck with me. I thought about getting a motorhome but I will still need a vehicle to get around and won’t be able to bring a toy with me.
@captjim97
@captjim97 25 күн бұрын
@@Hugo-Hernandez Mostly because we want to try the motorhome route. We have a flatbed trailer that we can use to haul our toys with my wife’s truck.
@thomashegemann9581
@thomashegemann9581 25 күн бұрын
Remember safety supper c has 3 exits in case of fire or crime
@hognott
@hognott 24 күн бұрын
Following. It will be interesting to see what you choose when the reality of overall cost of ownership is applied, particularly up-front price and maintenance. Something I haven’t seen in your analysis thus far. Notwithstanding trust-fund babies, we all have champagne tastes with beer checkbooks, especially when it comes to non-essential, depreciating assets. We’ve owned 4 class A diesel pushers prior to our Super C. As of now, I do not see a path back to an A for us. Going either way in diesel world is a huge investment. You are certainly doing your due-diligence. Good luck in whatever you choose. Just enjoy the lifestyle!😎
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 20 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@BJLinKaty
@BJLinKaty 24 күн бұрын
Another con for the Super C is that you can’t get into all the luxury resorts, as so many are Class A only. Not that I need that kind of luxury all the time, but in retirement, I would like the option of staying where I want to stay. Outside of that, the Super C is probably my preference.
@Ham-Radio-3945
@Ham-Radio-3945 24 күн бұрын
Great Video. Thank You!
@kaamacat
@kaamacat 24 күн бұрын
I might suggest ( and you already may have) try the larger Renegade series like Explorer or Classic. I am thinking these in their series are more of a true Super-C truck-style vs the Verona and Valencia. (BTW...love the channel and you both do a great job sharing with the readers... Keep it up!.... BobR over and out)
@freedomontheloose
@freedomontheloose 24 күн бұрын
Tough decision! I like the super "C" but maybe somewhere down the road I could see myself changing mind as well! LOL
@ItsEverythingElse
@ItsEverythingElse 25 күн бұрын
The safety aspect of super C's is a big deal. Ever see a Class A get absolutely shredded in a highway accident?
@thomascorley7289
@thomascorley7289 25 күн бұрын
Class A for 3 year diesel pusher no looking back. When you un hook so easy to park. Quiet. Took it to Alaska rode great held with no problems. None. Fleetwood Discovery lxe 40m.
@waynemorris4895
@waynemorris4895 24 күн бұрын
I would never tell you what the next coach you should buy. You are doing all the right things. Keep talking. One piece of advice: please have no regrets when you choose. No buyer remorse. Learn to love what you choose.
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 24 күн бұрын
Thanks Wayne.
@domenickruttura5412
@domenickruttura5412 25 күн бұрын
Nothing maneuvers like a class A
@sherriweber7105
@sherriweber7105 25 күн бұрын
I’ll be happy with whatever you both decide to get. I like Super Cs because they look nice and seem comfortable. I like class As too and fifth wheels. But I know one day you’ll find the right Rv for you! I know I will too one day. I’m counting on you for finding the right Rv. I can’t wait to see you with it one day. Love you both even though you don’t want a Super C anymore. Lol! 😀
@chriswoodstock8055
@chriswoodstock8055 24 күн бұрын
Izzy my friend. I would suggest you drive a Prevost conversion if you like the driving experience. We have had other diesel pusher’s and our Liberty/Prevost is the best over the road experience I’ve had behind the wheel. Seriously. Drive the real highway bus chassis before you buy anything.
@wesalexander2693
@wesalexander2693 25 күн бұрын
Great video, MJ and Izzy. Not a simple decision to make, but you guys are certainly going about it the right way, there are a lot of things to consider, a lot of plusses and minuses with each type of RV. For example, our first RV was a 5th wheel. On paper it sounded great, it seemed like it would work well for us. As we used it, not so much. Some features that seemed like a good idea actually turned out to be an annoyance! And the build quality was very disappointing. I've never driven a Prevost, but I'm guessing if and when you do, it is likely to be a game changer! Looking forward to hearing of your decision and your many adventures in retirement!
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience Wes
@tanya334
@tanya334 24 күн бұрын
Great things to decide on 🤔
@stevecasey1037
@stevecasey1037 24 күн бұрын
Drive a Prevost. I've driven them over 20 years.. just retired from the entertainer bus business. Nothing, is better than a Prevost. But have a big check book. 😊
@jaderunner71
@jaderunner71 24 күн бұрын
We have a trailer now, but inspired by your videos and reviews of various Super C's and Class A's we actually went to look at some (mostly for entertainment as we are decades away from retirement). I was really surprised how difficult it was to get into and out of some of these RVs. We saw some Class A's where the only door into the RV was through the passenger side, there was a platform you could put down once you were inside, but each time you wanted in or out of the RV you had to remove the platform to exit. The steps were so steep and so high with no railings or handlebars. I have a disability so this was a no-go for me, but we only saw a limited amount of RVs at our local RV dealership and if we were ever serious we would do more research. I am looking forward to seeing your reviews of the other brands out there. I'm excited for your new adventures and wish you the best.
@TexasSteele67
@TexasSteele67 24 күн бұрын
should be amazing to watch ya'lls process as we've pulled back from the market until rate's get back to normal
@michelleconcannon7584
@michelleconcannon7584 23 күн бұрын
Super Cs are so badass looking 😊
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 20 күн бұрын
They sure are 👍
@jdradman6382
@jdradman6382 24 күн бұрын
Great discussion and on-point. Like Javabean said below - class A is "queen of the campground" and a super C is "king of the road". I have owned a custom built Kenworth Super C for 12 years now and been all over the country in it and one can tell its made for driving. Eight-hour highway days are pretty easy. And we have done lots of driving to and from race tracks with a focus on getting there, doing our thing and getting home to go back to work. Now the working days are winding down (retirement) and our new class A is the luxury we are looking for as we spend more time at our locations and less time racing down the highway to get there and back...but I still long for the 600HP. I think all of the points you made in the video are valid and it will come down to performance vs luxury with a lot of influence coming from the available finances. How much does one have to spend to get a class A that performs like a super C (Newel/Prevost) and how much to get a super C as luxurious as a Class A (1492 and others). I'm not sure the super C will every match the luxury of the super high-end coaches. And the gap between the high-end Class A and the Bus outfitters with chassis dynamics and luxury fits and finishes seems to be shrinking too... Either way - its all really fun!
@urbanrver3527
@urbanrver3527 24 күн бұрын
All good points. I say Newmar Superstar 4059
@pamelaklemp5615
@pamelaklemp5615 24 күн бұрын
What RV is best for you? Hands down it's THE ONE YOU BOTH FALL IN LOVE WITH, SERIOUSLY! Repairs are expensive and it is a whole lot easier to swallow those costs when you bought the rig you love 💘 💕 ❤. For husband and me it was the Dutch Star and we've been incredibly pleased about our choice.
@BrianSmith-yn2zg
@BrianSmith-yn2zg 16 күн бұрын
I thought the Supreme Air hac an air ride cab.
@georgepilger9159
@georgepilger9159 24 күн бұрын
Prevost bus / motorhome are built for the long-haul and quick maintenance. (example engine can come out on built in rollers and 45 minutes for rebuild or service) the rig is designed to be serviced easily. One big factor is will not rust out 10 years down the road like all the rest because it has a stainless steel frame. Wish I had gotten a used Prevost H45 20 years ago and got it over with.
@duaneclark3539
@duaneclark3539 24 күн бұрын
Prevost has the best ride going hands down. And quiet no rattling if you have never driven one we’ll do yourselves a favor and drive one, there is nothing out there like it. I know they cost a fortune but for the price of one of those new Newmar’s you can get in a used real nice bus and you will have something that will last a lifetime if you love it properly. I have one now and have been down the road of production RV’s, there really is no comparison. See for yourself.
@petermentis5106
@petermentis5106 23 күн бұрын
Did MJ “feel” or hear a big difference between an M2 and a Cascadia chassis?
@williamchristian2361
@williamchristian2361 25 күн бұрын
I have a four winds Mandalay 45ft. Pusher
@jrs4ex
@jrs4ex 24 күн бұрын
Have you experienced a Super C’s that had issues with porpoising? I’d really like to experience the ride difference of S2 vs M2 chassis in an RV. I drove 26’ box trucks for a few years on various chassis and man the ride on some were horrible with the porpoising. I’m sure some of that was related to weight distribution, but hopefully it’s not as big an issue in RV’s.
@fredpassafiume2218
@fredpassafiume2218 25 күн бұрын
When a deer jumps into your lane and demolishes the front of a class A, you’ll wish you were in a super C.
@darrells1806
@darrells1806 24 күн бұрын
When a deer jumps into your lane and demolishes the front of your car, you’ll wish you were in your class C 🤣🤣
@fredpassafiume2218
@fredpassafiume2218 23 күн бұрын
@@darrells1806 .. it really happened.
@stevenkukene9970
@stevenkukene9970 24 күн бұрын
I drive a bus for my local transit authority. I was recently involved in a head on collision with a drunk driver who crossed the center line at about 50 mph (I was doing 35 mph). Of course there was injuries (myself included) but me and my 12 passengers all walked off my bus. Bus conversions are very safe due to the construction techniques used in manufacture. My dream coach would have to be a Prevost H3-45. Most class A’s disintegrate in accidents, though beautiful on the showroom floor, flopped on their side in an accident they are reduced to a pile of plywood. All this with catastrophic consequences for passengers. A Prevost is built to go millions of miles where mass produced motor homes have a very limited shelf life. I’ve heard you should buy your last coach first. I’ve also heard a 10 year old Prevost is a better value than most production motor homes. You need to step it up and take a bus for a ride!
@roydavis2242
@roydavis2242 25 күн бұрын
If a Super C is safer is questionable. There is no "real-world" testing to support or dispute that so it's just an assumption. The first thing many Dutch Star buyers do is change out the front shocks to Koni shocks but I believe that Freightliner already did that. The Comfort Drive does requires a leaning curve. My KA is easier to drive than my Camry. Yes the Super C drives like a truck, but it also rides like one. Things in cupboards and on counters bounce around more leading to more rattling. I've done both but for longer drives, I choose a DP because the fatigue level is less.
@davidescobar5366
@davidescobar5366 24 күн бұрын
Sure safety has not actually been tested for the two kinds of RVs out there but a little common sense says that comparing say a head on collision inside a DP vs a Super C dictates the super C occupants inside such a vehicle to fare fare better than those inside the DP. The difference would be even more noticeable for those riding in the front of the vehicle when the collision occurs. You needing data to prove this is like asking for data to prove a three wheeled motorcycle is safer to ride than a two wheeled version if you are comparing dropping it on its side. It's practically impossible to fall on your side in a three wheeled motorcycle 🏍️.
@philippointer
@philippointer 24 күн бұрын
really wish you had driven the Cascadia prior to doing this video. Also, the class A windshield is not an advantage....
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 24 күн бұрын
We will test drive it at some point. And yes, the windshield is an advantage to some.
@gtr1952
@gtr1952 24 күн бұрын
I've been doing it since 1970, when I was 18. That is when I bought a very used tent pop-up. 8) I had one of the first crew cab Chevy's (They called it a 3+3), with a 13 foot truck camper. That truck, w/camper and trailer w/6 racing snowmobiles, had a 454 V8 w/auto and got 3 mpg!! (5:13/10 bolt rear) CL_A, B, C in years after that. The CL_A is nice, and the most luxury. But, and you know this, 54 years experience tells me there are going to be bugs!! Question is, how many, what kind? If your going to hop campground to campground, maybe the A works for you. Maine, Key West, Texas, Mexico, Alaska, Mid West, I want a driver, capable of covering a lot of miles with no issues. That tells me Pete, Volvo, Freightliner etc. CL_Super_C. Front bumper to back of cab, and under to rear of axle is commercial truck quality, proven mile eater. 8) I don't want to be broken down on the Al-Can highway with a .50 cal in my lap looking for bear at 3am. LOL Motor in the rear, controls in the front = gremlins. Everyone has an opinion. Just take your time, consider everything. Drive them. Check reviews from owners. Good luck, have fun!! 8) --gary PS: If you do go up the Al-Can, a cattle guard on the front is a good idea! Deer, moose, bear make a mess of the front!! 8)
@1798iscomingback
@1798iscomingback 24 күн бұрын
In our view there is only two good reasons to have a super C: 1 - You like the truck feeling 2 - you want to tow a lot of weight. Both can't be contested but if you are not looking for any, you will compromise way less in other options like a class A or a high end 5th wheel....
@lanav9679
@lanav9679 25 күн бұрын
Cool !
@MG-xv5bo
@MG-xv5bo 25 күн бұрын
Love this video like all your others! My advice to you Izzy is choose HAPPY! Happy Wife Happy Life 😁💕 #Maga
@johnandrobinmccoy8305
@johnandrobinmccoy8305 24 күн бұрын
With my class A, I had a windshield change every year that I owned it. My insurance, it was a grand that I had to pay every time it happened. Also, working on the engine was brutal. I'll never have a class A again...
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@BrendaAdams-ok3zf
@BrendaAdams-ok3zf 24 күн бұрын
enjoy your content, could you break down some cost in owning a super C?
@larryhudson3930
@larryhudson3930 24 күн бұрын
I thought our next RV (when we traded our Class C) was going to be a Super C, but decided we don't need the towing capacity and they are too expensive. We bought a class A.
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 20 күн бұрын
Nice!
@mike-pl8sn
@mike-pl8sn 24 күн бұрын
Will start a GoFundMe and get you a Prevo bus
@jackalay23
@jackalay23 25 күн бұрын
Older Prevost best value in town.
@horizon42q
@horizon42q 25 күн бұрын
I would never go with a Super C Reason #1 is living space. It just doesn’t compare to a Class A at the same length. A steerable tag in a 43 & 45 ft would have a better turning radius by far. My 43 ft gets into places my 40 ft non-tag couldn’t
@willieiso118
@willieiso118 25 күн бұрын
6 x 6 MAN overlander... that's the baby we all need....
@bencovington9016
@bencovington9016 24 күн бұрын
Not sure if I missed it, but did you mention the price difference? I have a 41’ Discovery and have friends with Super C’s and they are quite a bit more expensive.
@EndlessRVing
@EndlessRVing 24 күн бұрын
Depends on what super c vs class a you get. Many class A are more pricey vs super c
@thetileguy1492
@thetileguy1492 24 күн бұрын
Elephant in the room: How about rating the buses Newell etc.
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