Why We Should NOT Look For Aliens - The Dark Forest

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The Universe is incredibly big and seems full of potential for life, with billions of habitable planets. If an advanced civilization had the technology to travel between the stars, at just 0.1% of the speed of light, It could colonize our galaxy in roughly 100 million years. Which is not that long given the billions of years the milky way has existed - so in principle any spacefaring civilization should be able to spread rapidly over huge sectors of the galaxy. And yet we see nothing, hear nothing, the universe seems empty. Devoid of others. This is the Fermi Paradox, which we have discussed in more detail in other videos.
Confronted with the seemingly empty universe, humanity faces a dilemma. We desperately want to know if we are alone in the Milky Way. We want to call out and reveal ourselves to anyone watching but that could be the last thing we ever do. Because maybe the universe is not empty. Maybe it’s full of civilizations but they are hiding from each other. Maybe the civilizations that attracted attention in the past were wiped away by invisible arrows. This is the Dark Forest solution to the Fermi paradox.
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@kurzgesagt
@kurzgesagt 2 жыл бұрын
If this video made you curious and you like reading great and long sci fi books, check out the three body problem by Liu Cixin, who formulated the dark forest idea for the first time. And with that, we say good bye to the year 12,021. It truly was a wild time, and passed so, so quickly. For us at the Kurzgesagt team it was full of changes and achievements and we learned so much and tried so many new things. And we have so many exciting ideas and projects that we can’t wait to share with you next year! I know I say this often but doing Kurzgesagt really is just such a joy. We only can do this because of you, so thank you so, so much. We appreciate it more than you might imagine. Have wonderful holidays and get safely into the year 12,022. We’ll see you on the other side! - Philipp PS: And if you want to help us do what we do, check out our store with sciency products made with love: kgs.link/shop-156
@FalconType
@FalconType 2 жыл бұрын
You fell off + ratio
@cubit404
@cubit404 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing you kurzgesagt!
@nothingexists5066
@nothingexists5066 2 жыл бұрын
First
@craftingcloud8642
@craftingcloud8642 2 жыл бұрын
First
@misterchef944
@misterchef944 2 жыл бұрын
BS LIFE IS OUT THERE
@Scouthedog1
@Scouthedog1 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Hunter in the technological forest could spin-off to its own Internet show. I'd watch that
@eat2788
@eat2788 2 жыл бұрын
@@dilkush_21 k i wont
@UltraDripstinctSonGoku
@UltraDripstinctSonGoku 2 жыл бұрын
@@dilkush_21 ok no one cares about your profile anyway
@pustota7254
@pustota7254 2 жыл бұрын
@@dilkush_21 ok.
@koboarchives969
@koboarchives969 2 жыл бұрын
I swear I just skipped the through the video just to see the hunter. Because it was just hq. Really makes me think, they should make a show about this on youtube and rake in the money for Kurzgesagt.
@jamesforster7612
@jamesforster7612 2 жыл бұрын
Samurai Jack is what your're looking for.
@GarrettWatts
@GarrettWatts 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciating this new, slightly more laid back narration style.
@triopical6884
@triopical6884 2 жыл бұрын
Hey baby boy, can I drink all your UwU warm prorostate milk
@lucasdacosta3835
@lucasdacosta3835 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been 6 minutes you couldn’t have listened to this video.
@lanimwar
@lanimwar 2 жыл бұрын
Ye
@olliec5675
@olliec5675 2 жыл бұрын
GARRET!
@olliec5675
@olliec5675 2 жыл бұрын
I love you
@Croc21000
@Croc21000 7 ай бұрын
I love how humans are so optimistic about finding intelligent life even though we don't even get along with each other a lot of the time.
@ninajasmin731
@ninajasmin731 6 ай бұрын
maybe that's the reason we are like this haha
@Croc21000
@Croc21000 6 ай бұрын
@ninajasmin731 hmmmm. perhaps the lack of exposure to other intelligent life may cause a lack of opposition in political opinions other lifeforms may have, causing us to feel more important than all other life in the universe.
@anoobagain5008
@anoobagain5008 6 ай бұрын
Maybe we arent really intelligent compared to aliens and theyd be peaceful because they’re actually intelligent
@Randomguy-nr6qr
@Randomguy-nr6qr 6 ай бұрын
@@anoobagain5008idk it feels like the more intelligent a life form is the more cruel they can be
@anoobagain5008
@anoobagain5008 6 ай бұрын
@@Randomguy-nr6qr I feel like stupid life forms are cruel too we just dont see it because they are too stupid to do cruel things
@obsoquasi
@obsoquasi 6 ай бұрын
"don't reply" was the answer humans got in Cixin Liu's Three Body Problem when the protagonist sent out her first succesful interstellar transmission, powerful enough to reach our neighbors. This book, and the two others in the series, are as terrific as they are terrifying.
@henrywang3403
@henrywang3403 5 ай бұрын
That’s the first story to use the term “dark forest”.
@smokbig3202
@smokbig3202 4 ай бұрын
​@@henrywang3403 The dark forest theory has been around for a very long time.
@user-gj7lp5iz6k
@user-gj7lp5iz6k 4 ай бұрын
​@@smokbig3202prove it
@manynukes11
@manynukes11 4 ай бұрын
Survival is the most important goal of every civilization Every civilization will continue to expand and grow , but resource in the universe is limited.
@King-mz8xe
@King-mz8xe 4 ай бұрын
Ye Wenjie doomed us man 😭
@lencol583
@lencol583 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be really annoyed if our first contact with aliens was them coming to earth as some sort of door to door salesman or trying to recruit us into a pyramid scheme.
@deividboy2347
@deividboy2347 2 жыл бұрын
XD I would love it if the first contact is like in independence day 2 With that white orb thing Seemed so nice to me
@rackcauser
@rackcauser 2 жыл бұрын
They're gonna come here and try to tell you about your satellites extended warranty
@gasterg.continent3118
@gasterg.continent3118 2 жыл бұрын
“You become you own space capital you only need to give us 200k kg of metal and travel to other planets to recruit them.”
@deividboy2347
@deividboy2347 2 жыл бұрын
"Humanity can be their own boss with this this two easy apps"
@cyfertea8707
@cyfertea8707 2 жыл бұрын
"Good morning! Have you heard of our lord and savior gheanud?"
@hustle4Abuck2
@hustle4Abuck2 6 ай бұрын
I saw this video about a year ago. I just finished "The Dark Forest" book two of the series. Your visuals nailed that part of the book, so much so I had to come back to see if you referenced the book. I am on book three now. I will commit again when I finish the series
@King-mz8xe
@King-mz8xe 4 ай бұрын
Well you finished this series yet and if so, thoughts on the 3rd book?
@Viltris
@Viltris 2 ай бұрын
@@King-mz8xe The best of the series. I finished the third book on a plane today. Liu Cixin has always been good about painting vivid imagery with words, and in the third book, he goes all in on describing the bizarre, the horrifying, the grotesque, and the hauntingly beautiful. He also tightens up the story, cutting out the unnecessary plot threads, and develops the ones he leaves behind all the way to their ultimate conclusion. It also has the most speculative ideas, the most imaginitive, the most optimistic, and the most terrifying.
@drew284
@drew284 2 ай бұрын
@@Viltris I thought the 3rd was the worst because of some of the character decisions and humanity's reactions to certain things. Just didn't add up. I still love the series as a whole though. And I thought the first part of book 3 was really good. Wish I had more people to talk about the series with though, it's such an imaginative and thought provoking series. I think my favorite part is the world building of Trisolaris. Just fascinating and I hope the Netflix series does it justice. Dark Forest was my favorite.
@daenite2480
@daenite2480 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine finally getting a message from space, and after decoding it, the message says "be quiet, they'll hear you."
@sticktheok
@sticktheok 2 жыл бұрын
oh no
@pHixiq
@pHixiq 2 жыл бұрын
Oh shit 😂. We gonna get got
@Skemmm
@Skemmm 2 жыл бұрын
but they will expose themselves by doing this, so not a smart move.
@mrcheese3092
@mrcheese3092 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skemmm by expose wym expose and how
@Arthera0
@Arthera0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skemmm of course they would relay this message far away from themselves if they have that technology
@betterchapter
@betterchapter 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone on another planet seeing a similar space sci-fi vid about our planet
@jaari2032
@jaari2032 2 жыл бұрын
Man with checkmark must like
@Jay2480
@Jay2480 2 жыл бұрын
How only 3 mins ago what
@A_87mine
@A_87mine 2 жыл бұрын
Yo
@cocoardo4394
@cocoardo4394 2 жыл бұрын
And there is another one writing this reply.
@rob5393
@rob5393 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine an alien making a coment such as yours on that video
@steadmanman940
@steadmanman940 Жыл бұрын
Kurzgesagt can give the most eye-opening, life changing, cosmically-educating speech about a foreign alien race that will have a 50/50 chance of either coming in peace or wiping us off the face of the universe and then be like "but we're probably fine." You truly are brilliant people.
@lillyraisin
@lillyraisin Жыл бұрын
✨ANXIETY✨ WOO
@somefuckstolemynick
@somefuckstolemynick 13 күн бұрын
Even if there only were two options (there isn't), peace or extermination, that wouldn't imply it's a 50/50 chance.
@dabigfreeze
@dabigfreeze Жыл бұрын
I can just imagine a bunch of aliens watching a giant bonfire in space, and then it finally goes out and they think to themselves “Damn they really took their time to realise huh”
@dhayaadharsh
@dhayaadharsh 3 күн бұрын
or too late😶
@thedeytow8776
@thedeytow8776 2 жыл бұрын
“I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.” -Jack Handey
@StrokeMyLovePump
@StrokeMyLovePump 2 жыл бұрын
Deep Thoughts.
@WiseOwl_1408
@WiseOwl_1408 2 жыл бұрын
Violence is a huge part of nature. We can't escape it.
@infinitehonkworks195
@infinitehonkworks195 2 жыл бұрын
@@WiseOwl_1408 Violence is the eternal answer to "Or else what" If you aren't willing to use it, you're no more than property of the person that will
@msguidedbits9511
@msguidedbits9511 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t do that
@FanDidlyTastic
@FanDidlyTastic 2 жыл бұрын
@Nuup Truth is only the realities we give in to. Violence is only part of our nature so long as we keep giving up, making comments like these. We do things the way we do because those methods are the paths of least resistance. We replace this resistance with technology and tools to ignore them, sometimes forever. Taking violence as a truth may as well be giving up on a goal before you've even started. Absurdly defeatist and pessimistic. It's also in human nature to *grow beyond our base natures.* Did you ever consider that? ;3c
@HandToolRescue
@HandToolRescue 2 жыл бұрын
Always be weary of "the implication".
@imthetrollman9279
@imthetrollman9279 2 жыл бұрын
YOUR'E RIGHT. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS. OMG PAUL I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT!
@ButWhyMe...
@ButWhyMe... 2 жыл бұрын
lol no m8. *The US fires first
@ButWhyMe...
@ButWhyMe... 2 жыл бұрын
@bruh ? Is this a joke?
@tulliodesantis4290
@tulliodesantis4290 2 жыл бұрын
is this from always sunny?
@vonabod4259
@vonabod4259 2 жыл бұрын
😄😄😄
@DraconisV2
@DraconisV2 11 ай бұрын
I love that this was tackled in Stellaris! There's a new Origin in the game called Fear of the Dark wherein Venus was totally destroyed by a freak asteroid causing a huge division on Earth on whether the incident is a malicious attack or just a freak accident and is nothing more than mere paranoia. This division led to a lot of people terraforming and colonizing Mars in order to escape Earth because of the belief that somewhere out there, there is someone purposely targeting our home planet in order to destroy it. Ok this next bit is a spoiler so don't continue if you have plans on playing the game with this Origin. Basically, after years of exploration and progress in the game, you'll later find out that in a nearby solar system, an unknown species of alien had built a huge space cannon and was using all their resources in their home system to create huge bullets to attack nearby systems that they had detected that contains life. However, because of the unique gravity of Jupiter on our Sol system that protects us from most asteroids, this huge bullet that was aimed at Earth was actually reorientated by the gravity into destroying Venus instead. By the time that you discover this truth, the alien species that had done the attack are already dead with their home planet barren with life and the space cannon inoperable. It seems that the unknown species was so paranoid that it believed in the idea that any life out there is a threat to their existence which then led to the construction of a space cannon that will guarantee that they will be the one to do the first strike rather than be a victim of one. This paranoia however led to them depleting all the resources in their solar system without even inventing FTL travel which then caused mass extinction of their species, which is fortunate for Earth because it meant that a second strike will never arrive. At this point, the player will have a decision to turn into a Fanatic Purifier since it was proven that aliens in the galaxy are actually willing to exterminate you when given the chance and also a big "I told you so!" from the colonists who fled Earth to Mars. That, or you can stay as a Xenophile and declare that yes, some aliens are bad, but not all of them are out to get you. In the end, you'll get an achievement named "Dark Forest" if you convert into a Fanatic Purifier and eliminate all life in the galaxy, from the most advanced ones, down to the alien species that are still stuck in the stone ages.
@lolawhyte1277
@lolawhyte1277 20 сағат бұрын
where do i find this??
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol 4 ай бұрын
3:30 "They'll want to call out for help, but they won't" "Why not?" "Because of the _implication_ "
@EzequielFigueroa-sw4nb
@EzequielFigueroa-sw4nb 6 күн бұрын
😂😂
@leepope3500
@leepope3500 6 күн бұрын
Watching again from release Of 3 Body Problem on Netflix
@sayounsang
@sayounsang 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Kurzgesagt to cover this book. Such a terrifying concept, and yet I can’t stop thinking about it.
@Skemmm
@Skemmm 2 жыл бұрын
trisolaris? also *amogus*
@gabrielvicente8406
@gabrielvicente8406 2 жыл бұрын
.
@FckPooTN
@FckPooTN 2 жыл бұрын
You mean trisolaris?
@matyascerny8461
@matyascerny8461 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, another trisolaris enjoyer
@crAzytitAn4741
@crAzytitAn4741 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the Aliens are so advanced that they might be among us and we'd never know
@Wonkabar007
@Wonkabar007 2 жыл бұрын
The hunter takes a deep breath and makes a decision "I shall try and make friends with this Xenomorph"
@williamwalrus9473
@williamwalrus9473 2 жыл бұрын
Mankind: “If it exists then I can pet it”
@RT710.
@RT710. 2 жыл бұрын
*TOUCH*
@cassianodesign
@cassianodesign 2 жыл бұрын
The Xenomorph hugs him back, one day later they have a baby, but the hunter dies during labor XD
@shanagbaimuru3926
@shanagbaimuru3926 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh an amusing end would've been both the hunters getting skewered by a better hidden hunter observing the whole situation
@mikesnapper9001
@mikesnapper9001 2 жыл бұрын
"hehe, why is my stomach suddenly tickling?"
@ejabraham10
@ejabraham10 2 күн бұрын
The Netflix movie 3 Body Problem brought me back here.
@user-zd2yf3tz7c
@user-zd2yf3tz7c 10 ай бұрын
정공룡의 추천을 받고 달려옴 공룡님은 이런 거 어케 찾으셨다냐
@russiananimatorlol1719
@russiananimatorlol1719 Жыл бұрын
Imagine an alien version of kurzgesagt explaining why humans exist
@aushwada3871
@aushwada3871 Жыл бұрын
BRO WTF THAT IS ACTUALLY CRAZY. I thought about an alien civilization watching this video after decoding it to see what we think.
@Unlimited_Powah
@Unlimited_Powah Жыл бұрын
And then they see their climate change videos
@rhuttrho88
@rhuttrho88 Жыл бұрын
I will not imagine that!🤨
@gmillyy5253
@gmillyy5253 Жыл бұрын
Sources reveal they have no real explanation
@thenamesianna
@thenamesianna Жыл бұрын
We would be aliens to them , so it would still be about alien's existance
@AnotherZenThought
@AnotherZenThought 2 жыл бұрын
As Sagan said: “The newest children in a strange and uncertain cosmos should listen quietly for a long time, patiently learning about the universe and comparing notes before shouting into an unknown jungle that we do not understand.”
@crazycatlady183
@crazycatlady183 2 жыл бұрын
❤️👏
@gdvelasquez2570
@gdvelasquez2570 2 жыл бұрын
Carl Sagan is wise, indeed.
@tomcav860
@tomcav860 2 жыл бұрын
your mum is pretty good lookin
@npc5649
@npc5649 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a good idea
@AnthanKrufix
@AnthanKrufix 2 жыл бұрын
Or in the words of 4Chan.. "Lurk Moar!"
@levendil14
@levendil14 Жыл бұрын
Best strategy is to be quiet and search out and if we find others, investigate and approach cautiously. If we identify like minded creates and form alliances it will defend us against those who are going to do us harm.
@brandonselitetv1436
@brandonselitetv1436 6 ай бұрын
So basically do what the Spanish did when conquering the Americas. Form alliance with certain tribes and used that alliance expand our Influence in the galaxy
@Toonrick12
@Toonrick12 4 ай бұрын
​@@brandonselitetv1436That and accidental germ warfare.
@revolutionariesoffreedom2374
@revolutionariesoffreedom2374 27 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@brandonselitetv1436not really Btw the Spanish empire was defeated by the US Republic so shush 🤫 He says : ally yourself with pro democracy but in the alien world… to fight against invasive totalitarian alien empires. Simple as that
@ednguyen3822
@ednguyen3822 10 ай бұрын
Three Body Problem novels introduced me to this concept. Great reads!
@thomaslittlefield923
@thomaslittlefield923 2 жыл бұрын
I think a language barrier between planets could be even more dangerous than what weapons they could have
@sylvur5441
@sylvur5441 2 жыл бұрын
vinland saga\american history proves that
@andresramos7965
@andresramos7965 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me that in Halo games, the war that aliens start against humanity, which purpose was to exterminate it, started by a misinterpretation and a misunderstanding.
@maksanimates4456
@maksanimates4456 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like we just need to find a direct way of universal kindness. Languages wont help because its something we created, food might not work since wed be dealing an entire different race and dont know how it would affect them.
@sentientmustache8360
@sentientmustache8360 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s just pray either we invented universal translation or they have
@4Curses
@4Curses 2 жыл бұрын
@@maksanimates4456 In stargate the highly developed races used a universal language based on atoms. it seems pretty smart, since the elements should be the same, no matter where in the universe.
@tomkandy
@tomkandy 2 жыл бұрын
The Killing Star has the best summary of this idea; "We ask that you try just one more thought experiment. Imagine yourself taking a stroll through Manhattan, somewhere north of 68th street, deep inside Central Park, late at night. It would be nice to meet someone friendly, but you know that the park is dangerous at night. That's when the monsters come out. There's always a strong undercurrent of drug dealings, muggings, and occasional homicides. It is not easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. They dress alike, and the weapons are concealed. The only difference is intent, and you can't read minds. Stay in the dark long enough and you may hear an occasional distance shriek or blunder across a body. How do you survive the night? The last thing you want to do is shout, "I'm here!" The next to last thing you want to do is reply to someone who shouts, "I'm a friend!" What you would like to do is find a policeman, or get out of the park. But you don't want to make noise or move towards a light where you might be spotted, and it is difficult to find either a policeman or your way out without making yourself known. Your safest option is to hunker down and wait for daylight, then safely walk out. There are, of course, a few obvious differences between Central Park and the universe. There is no policeman. There is no way out. And the night never ends."
@MPKush
@MPKush 2 жыл бұрын
Your English teacher would be proud.
@Cronos988
@Cronos988 2 жыл бұрын
Or you build a very big gun, take over the park with it, and live happily ever after. Not everyone is equal in our dark forrest, and hiding from someone who's already more powerful than you is not going to work.
@anishap2000
@anishap2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cronos988 Yes, building a big gun really would be one of the ways, but that's a call for war. How do we know how 'big' of a gun is actually big enough? What preparations our opponents have made? Without knowing that, it's still a risk stepping out and making yourself known like that. If we can't know the nature or intent of those on the other side, we also cannot be sure of our chances of survival. True, not everyone is equal and that's for sure, but we haven't heard or found anything from these hunters to determine the ranking of strongest to weakest. We can't know who's more powerful. There could easily be civilizations farther off than us. Hence, the least we can do is not make our presence known so that we can stay safe. Thrive beneath the covers, threat-free until someone finds us. At some point we may have to though. This planet alone doesn't seem sufficient to satiate growing human population and desires.
@smurfyday
@smurfyday 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cronos988 Central Park is actually really safe. NYC is much safer than most cities or places in America, esp. the gun-loving ones. It's the homicidal ones that we need to worry about. The ones who think guns solve problems.
@kairos.2381
@kairos.2381 2 жыл бұрын
@@smurfyday exactoo
@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo
@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo 10 ай бұрын
I love the art style of this channel ❤ and the content itself ofc x
@thedeepesthat4029
@thedeepesthat4029 Жыл бұрын
The likely reason that we have not encountered alien life, is that beings like ourselves (which i think are likely to be throughout the universe) create new dimensions / universes to pass into before they try to move across open space. Look at a chestnut tree. The chestnuts are far away from each other, for the chestnuts to turn into new trees, they do not need to make contact with eachother, and infact being far apart ensures more space for the chestnuts to drop in fertile ground and therefore aid the multiplication of the tree. If the universe is an evolved structure (Which I think to be highly likely), then it would be advantageous for life to be far apart, so that we do not war with each other and more rapidly create a new realm of information / universes. And so the Universe therefore multiplys. The earth is essentially an egg, and its been fertilesed by life. That life will then create new universes.
@johnappleseed9290
@johnappleseed9290 11 ай бұрын
I like your way of thinking and it makes sense.. BUT.. my only argument here is that we as humans have only evolved to create technology to aid us in our day to day living here on earth. We’ve created impressive rockets and satellites in order for us to see what is out there in our universe, we are no where near at the level to create any significant difference in chancing our dimension/universal timeline as we go on as a species. I like to look at our evolvement through the Kardashev scale. We aren’t even at type 1, we are sitting between 0.6-0.7 type civilization. In order to make any difference in our way of existence and timeline we would need an enormous amount of energy at a galactic level, that I can see how we can potentially open up new barriers through space and time, by that rate (if humanity is still around) we would be traversing at the speed of light. We haven’t truly even mastered the power of the atom or even left our solar system. We are eons away before we can make an impact at a universal scale.. and most scientist believe humanity will never get to that point due to our Neanderthalish brain still highly active. AI may possibly take over one day and real humans may become a form of Bio-Organic substance that wonder the earth..
@thedeepesthat4029
@thedeepesthat4029 11 ай бұрын
@@johnappleseed9290 We can already create quite realistic alternative realities using our basic computer technology. Once we have quantum computing, we will simply be able to run algorithms in power physics systems and they will just create universes, or maybe it will be AI that will do this for us. We can tell from how the universe grew, that it came from a simple state, and that is how we would create a universe, from a single algorythmic origin, and let it expand within a program. The way we make computer games now, it would be impossible to create a new universe, it would be far to much work. The universe we live in shows us jow it is to be done, and we will replicate that. Inevitably at some point.
@RealTDragon
@RealTDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Alright Kurzgesagt, when is the RTS game coming out? I see you building a creative asset list.
@anarchy-authoritarianneo-t180
@anarchy-authoritarianneo-t180 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't stop thinking about it lol.
@primetime3422
@primetime3422 2 жыл бұрын
Wait r u jokin or u r 4 real
@odin2130
@odin2130 2 жыл бұрын
@@primetime3422 Your comment gave me a headache.
@TheEpiknik
@TheEpiknik 2 жыл бұрын
@@odin2130 Genuinely though, are they joking about Kurzgesagt making a game?
@hawkeyy924
@hawkeyy924 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEpiknik I think they said they plan to make one
@Ani
@Ani 2 жыл бұрын
the art style in this video is perhaps my favourite of any kurzgesagt video so far. the way you guys have animated, portrayed, and narrated (!) aliens is stunning and thought provoking - kudos!
@LeventButSpeedrunning
@LeventButSpeedrunning 2 жыл бұрын
Hello random verified user
@crocodughetto5613
@crocodughetto5613 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that
@ninjaclan83
@ninjaclan83 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy book.
@PRINTORO
@PRINTORO 2 жыл бұрын
YES!
@groggod666
@groggod666 2 жыл бұрын
same
@FoxyBoxery
@FoxyBoxery Жыл бұрын
To be honest, the safest civilisation we can contact, against most people’s expectations, is not a less advanced than us or as advanced as us, but rather far more advanced than us. So advanced, that they won’t view us as a threat
@Tristyn_Waterman
@Tristyn_Waterman Ай бұрын
But because of the distances and delay in communication, and the possibility of rapid or explosive technological growth, we still would represent a possible threat to another civilization no matter how much more advanced they are
@aleksandaratanasov1885
@aleksandaratanasov1885 10 ай бұрын
10:22 That's called a pro Wenjie move, and it's a quick way to get your star cursed
@TheBadlandsSandvich
@TheBadlandsSandvich 2 жыл бұрын
The Dark Forest scenario reminds me of this writing prompt I saw once: "Due to the vast distances between stars, interstellar wars are often a case of who finds the other first. With such long trival times, any sort of retaliation is impossible, and the one who gets first strike always wins. Because of this, most intelligent species try to remain hidden and not give their position away. This is why everyone is so terrified of humanity, who feel the need to loudly broadcast their location."
@counttzt5070
@counttzt5070 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recall where this is from?
@TheBadlandsSandvich
@TheBadlandsSandvich 2 жыл бұрын
@@counttzt5070 r/WritingPrompts
@olnbgy4444
@olnbgy4444 2 жыл бұрын
They’re scared of humanity because humanity is a loud target ? I don’t understand
@stardolphin2
@stardolphin2 2 жыл бұрын
"This is why everyone is so terrified of humanity, who feel the need to loudly broadcast their location." As if no one else does, just because we haven't seen such signals yet? Assuming there is indeed a danger in doing so, all civilizations may go through a period of 'not yet knowing better.' Your assertion also implies that 'everyone' (especially if they're not also already talking to each other) will respond to awareness of our presence in the same way. Some may reach out if sufficiently gregarious, some may pre-empt, if sufficiently paranoid. Or anything in between. This isn't about what humans do, it's about what enough others may do, to be consistent with the Fermi Paradox.
@vengefulbeauty
@vengefulbeauty 2 жыл бұрын
@@olnbgy4444 Like a lion roaring. Think about, if you're in a dark forest and hear a lion roar, are you going towards it or away fast as hell in the opposite direction?
@KoutetsuSteel
@KoutetsuSteel 2 жыл бұрын
I mentioned it last time as well, but holy heck do I want to play a simulation/strategy game that has the art/design team from Kurzgesagt. Especially after the strategy game-esque animations we were shown in the middle of the video.
@duzehalo
@duzehalo 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Especially some base/city building sim. I'm pre-ordering.
@Hellodinho
@Hellodinho 2 жыл бұрын
AGREEED
@cats4life161
@cats4life161 2 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment this, every structure looks really interesting and I feel so inspired to play this nonexistant game
@daviddavid-pt7dv
@daviddavid-pt7dv 2 жыл бұрын
Yea
@andriytarnevyy8957
@andriytarnevyy8957 2 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Polytopia looks very similar to this 2:39. It's a little strategy game ispired by Civilization series but less deep, I played only a trial and liked It, you can play It on mobile too but it's actualy a good game.
@TheShuichi88
@TheShuichi88 Жыл бұрын
this is my favorite Kurzgesagt video, and This honestly seems like one of the more realistic outcomes of the fermi paradox. the main one being that the distances are too great between civilizations and thousands and thousands of years for back and forth communication isn't worth it. so other civilizations don't try.
@trequor
@trequor 9 ай бұрын
The Fermi paradox is hogwash. It's based on literally nothing. It's a mathematical model where all the variables came out of Fermi's ass.
@QE369
@QE369 Жыл бұрын
Dark Forrest is from Liu Cixin "Three Body Problem" Trilogy
@MatthewPogi-md7oq
@MatthewPogi-md7oq 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think one day, parents will tell their kids “be careful about what you send out into the universe…you can’t delete it in entirety!”
@thetruereality2
@thetruereality2 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant
@jasonbaugher2464
@jasonbaugher2464 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Huh, Mom! I'll just shoot it into a black hole!
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbaugher2464 yeaahhh lol
@addamriley5452
@addamriley5452 2 жыл бұрын
Time is non local synchronicity, past, present and future exist at once... everything exists now... nothing can be deleted. Energy cannot be created or destroyed...
@V0rch4
@V0rch4 2 жыл бұрын
People are already sending radio signals into space, and it's terrifying
@jackoface710
@jackoface710 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a short horror story I read from somebody else. Humanity has finally made contact with another intelligible species. The first message we receive back from them is: "Cease all communications; they will hear us."
@15gamershaven89
@15gamershaven89 2 жыл бұрын
Except the other aliens would just let us die before they reveal themselves
@guiii0696
@guiii0696 2 жыл бұрын
that sent a shiver down my spine
@thephoenix134
@thephoenix134 2 жыл бұрын
It all stems from the novel series starting with "The 3 body problem"
@zissou2265
@zissou2265 2 жыл бұрын
What is it called?
@fakuri913
@fakuri913 2 жыл бұрын
the first message probably: What are guys gliberring about? we don't understand (in alien language)
@metodejsvoboda6936
@metodejsvoboda6936 Жыл бұрын
I like how you used the same font as the title of the book "The dark forest" (minute 1:27), nice little detail
@insengmorugetda
@insengmorugetda 10 ай бұрын
공룡 형 다크 포레스트 뭔가 의미가 있었던거구나 이런 것 까지 찾아보고 큐튜버에서 많이 발전했어
@toxymoon92
@toxymoon92 9 ай бұрын
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@historicallegends3702
@historicallegends3702 Ай бұрын
I didn't understood what you said but I agree with you
@eniw07
@eniw07 29 күн бұрын
@@historicallegends3702 Several Korean KZbinrs made a video series named "Dark Forest" using Minecraft, and among those who participated in it, a KZbinr named '공룡' recommended this video to introduce the Dark Forest theory to his viewers.
@nikos3706
@nikos3706 2 жыл бұрын
Let me add a bit more to the existential dread: the 2 hunters stepping out in the clearing are making themselves vulnerable to another hunter who is still hidden and really considers taking both out as quickly as possible.
@Tjalve70
@Tjalve70 2 жыл бұрын
True. But at the same time, they are making themselves stronger. Because together, it will be more difficult for a third hunter to kill them both. So this is a short period of calculated risk and temporary vulnerability, that will hopefully pay off with prolonged and possibly permanent increased strength and survivability.
@alkasaket379
@alkasaket379 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tjalve70 I hope that's true. But, if the third hunter possibly takes us out with the other one, their location is given away, and a fourth hunter wipes the third one out as well.
@purpleemerald5299
@purpleemerald5299 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tjalve70 Another terrifying prospect: the two of them are already surrounded by a whole tribe of different hunters who have all gone through this same process long ago, and are contemplating whether to assimilate potential allies or annihilate potential enemies. No matter what we do, our lives hinge on their judgement.
@aeaeeaoiauea
@aeaeeaoiauea 2 жыл бұрын
The 2 hunters see each other, and they act like they don't, then for 2 years they just spy on each other not knowing what to do, then a third hunter just kills them
@alcambio8923
@alcambio8923 2 жыл бұрын
The analogy with hunting is ridiculous.
@PossumReviews
@PossumReviews 2 жыл бұрын
The universe is only about fourteen billion years old, and the star-forming era is expected to last another hundred trillion. The universe is young, so young in fact that the Earth has been around for about a third of the universe's life so far. If you picture the lifespan of the universe's star-forming era as a clock, we popped up in the first second. It may sound unlikely given how big the universe is, but when you take the Great Filters into consideration, we may very well be the first technological civilization in the universe. There may be countless civilizations over the next hundred trillion years, and we will be the "ancient forerunners" to them.
@nakedmario6155
@nakedmario6155 2 жыл бұрын
And then humanity will go into war with an alien species referred to as the Covenant because of the mishaps of the ancient forerunners
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad 2 жыл бұрын
That's the option that I'm choosing to go with. Obviously we don't know for sure if that is the case, but we should consider the possibility. Assume we are one of the earliest, if not the first, civilization to exist in the universe. What would that entail? To me, it sounds like a lot of responsibility. Like being the eldest child among your siblings.
@jeremyhahn3612
@jeremyhahn3612 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt in the universe because there's an insanely vast amount of it we're not able to look at, but I still get your point
@ouinova
@ouinova 2 жыл бұрын
Checkmark, I must like. Also good point
@Mostly-Nuts
@Mostly-Nuts 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyhahn3612 not even that. Look at how much we’ve accomplished in so little. Or who’s to even say we accomplished a lot in a little bit of time since it’s relative and we have nothing to base that point on.
@Aviation_mad
@Aviation_mad Жыл бұрын
I love your videos because the way you explain the concepts makes it easy for me to understand
@tigerji
@tigerji Жыл бұрын
Drive scorpion jacket at 9:21 is fire
@insertcoolnamehere8516
@insertcoolnamehere8516 Жыл бұрын
The idea of some alien space council that knows we’re here but is waiting for us to “grow up” is actually really comforting for some reason.
@thewhompingwampa2671
@thewhompingwampa2671 Жыл бұрын
So, it's basically Mass Effect. Jesus, lets just hope we don't encounter aliens like the Turians or get uplifted prematurely and end up like the Krogan.
@Pazuzu4219
@Pazuzu4219 Жыл бұрын
There's a group of aliens that are actually keeping us from "growing up". There are many different kinds out there and they have fought over control of this planet for millennia.
@garrettcorbett3681
@garrettcorbett3681 Жыл бұрын
@@thewhompingwampa2671 Lets hope our first encounter isn’t with the Krogan
@VoteOrDie99
@VoteOrDie99 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that kind of the back story of earth in star trek?
@rubix4195
@rubix4195 Жыл бұрын
@@VoteOrDie99 Not really - only if you think the Federation is a "welcoming space council" but, in reality, the Federation are like aloof and waiting for the moment a civilisation reaches light speed travel just so they can have a chat of joining like when you move into a new house and the first knock on the door is the Jehovah's Witnesses.. Also, not so much if you are in the Klingon or Romulan neck of the woods: one's a warrior race and the other is a manipulative race out for resouces.
@navjitgill5554
@navjitgill5554 2 жыл бұрын
We don't even treat each other right, imagine how we'd treat a different civilization
@VegasRT500
@VegasRT500 2 жыл бұрын
The Qanon Republicans would start a war with them there is no doubt about it.
@elrancho8700
@elrancho8700 2 жыл бұрын
And the Liberals would dumbfound them by saying we have over 60 genders
@lamalien2276
@lamalien2276 2 жыл бұрын
@@VegasRT500 Don't scoff, we're living through an event like that right now with China. They grew and grew and grew, and now we see their true intentions.
@marchforjune
@marchforjune 2 жыл бұрын
Bold of you to assume we would have the upper hand.
@chadphelps5809
@chadphelps5809 2 жыл бұрын
It would be a great unification for earth
@moonspots01
@moonspots01 10 ай бұрын
Intelligent life is so rare and the distances so great that it is no surprise we haven't heard anything yet.
@mavericksatyr4514
@mavericksatyr4514 Жыл бұрын
I love you’re guys videos they genuinely make my day thank you so much
@aprilraine8889
@aprilraine8889 2 жыл бұрын
“We need to be thoughtful about what signals we send out to the universe” We’ve handled *Twitter* just fine I’m sure we aren’t gonna mess this up.
@itisALWAYSR.A.
@itisALWAYSR.A. 2 жыл бұрын
by talos this can't be happening
@MrMegaMetroid
@MrMegaMetroid 2 жыл бұрын
We are quite literally not handling twitter very well. Social media and its algorythms are currently the most dangerous and impactfull tool on politics and information exchange. Twitter and co where what gave the us donald trump
@lucifurious1976
@lucifurious1976 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMegaMetroid Sarcasm
@Webexplr
@Webexplr 2 жыл бұрын
We invented Discord and Reddit to spread peace
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMegaMetroid Lol Twitter didn't give us Donald Trump, most of Twitter hates Trump. You're assuming Trump only had appeal because of Twitter - that he doesn't connect to real life people. If anything, Twitter swings the other way. Bad example. Also why do you people insist on politicizing everything? And why does the whole human species get reduced to a sideshow compared to the vagaries of American politics? You know there's a world outside America, right? Ironically, this tendency of Americans, even among those who hate Trump, to make everything about themselves is more Trumpian than anything else.
@puzzLEGO
@puzzLEGO 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever kurtzgesagt makes a video on aliens, it always blows up lol
@xyvazkrown8048
@xyvazkrown8048 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's #3 Trending in Gaming
@maxobakso123
@maxobakso123 2 жыл бұрын
yeah those videos are always their best!
@Puppyfied
@Puppyfied 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, whenever he makes a video it blows up lol
@thomasmitchell4128
@thomasmitchell4128 2 жыл бұрын
Of course it does. Because of the Implication.
@rey_nemaattori
@rey_nemaattori 2 жыл бұрын
In their defense, whenever we invent new stuff or concepts, our first incline is how to use it as a weapon....
@wandrinsheep
@wandrinsheep Ай бұрын
When Kurzegast finishes the 3 body problem trilogy and decides to make a video
@ClandestineSnowman
@ClandestineSnowman 2 жыл бұрын
This sort of reminds me of war stories I've heard where enemy soldiers will encounter each other in a one-on-one situation. Both don't really want to kill the other, but there's always a chance that the second you walk by each other the other will shoot you in the back - and it becomes an unfortunate "better safe than sorry" situation.
@maccaronich
@maccaronich 2 жыл бұрын
I was playing escape from tarkov today. Another PMC killed the scav outside the room I was hiding in. I called out and asked if it was safe, he called back and said he'd cleared it for me. I came out of the room and thanked him, he executed me point blank in the back of the head the second i turned my back
@HuntingTarg
@HuntingTarg 2 жыл бұрын
@@maccaronich Don't forget what the word 'Alien' means; How 'other' is the other? @IssacArthur has a whole series on Fermi Paradox solutions and various possible alien mindsets.
@Erin-bc8ic
@Erin-bc8ic 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of reminds me of DayZ.
@BigOlRub
@BigOlRub 2 жыл бұрын
@@maccaronich lol. You hid while he risked his life in the fight. I would have done what he did.
@jayeisenhardt1337
@jayeisenhardt1337 2 жыл бұрын
It's Christmas time and then ya get reminded of Christmas war stories where people pause and stop for a moment to exchange smokes, coffee and sing. lol People are crazy but it's even more dangerous to let them think for themselves and not kill each other according to most.
@k1n6n07h1n6
@k1n6n07h1n6 2 жыл бұрын
"Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." -Arthur C. Clarke
@jrag1000
@jrag1000 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, we've heard that before. It's no more profound quoting it...
@Idonai
@Idonai 2 жыл бұрын
Cool quote
@xavierc12343
@xavierc12343 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be more terrifying if we were alone in the universe, because it would pretty much confirm that there is some kind of meaning behind this, and that there is a god that created us and only us for whatever reason. It’s just scary for me. I’d prefer it if we weren’t “special”.
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 2 жыл бұрын
@@xavierc12343 Literally the complete opposite for me. The amount of comfort I'd feel if there was a purpose to us would be incredible. If it's only us in the universe, though, my first thought is that means we're screwed. We'd be an exception, and those tend not to last long.
@jkobee
@jkobee 2 жыл бұрын
@@xavierc12343 I think alone or not, there sure is a cause before the effect (a cause before the Big Bang, if you would). In Allan Kardec's book "The Spirits Book", there is a part in which he explores the need for a cause before anything ever existed, and this "cause" would be God, whatever name you wanna call. It's pretty intriguing and fascinanting tbh.
@prakharsrivastava9568
@prakharsrivastava9568 10 ай бұрын
Dark forest and Death's End by Liu Cixin cover this topic in fantastic detail, truly widening the scope of this concept. Must read!
@dyllski
@dyllski 7 ай бұрын
bro they need to make a universe civilization game with art this good. i would totally buy
@undead890
@undead890 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of The First Contact War in the Mass Effect series. Effectively, Humans began colonizing other planets around the galaxy until the Turians found them and attacked them on site, simply because the humans activated a Mass Relay they weren't supposed to activate. This escalated into full on war until the Citadel Council negotiated a peace treaty between the Turians and Humans a couple months later. It was all down to a misunderstanding. The Turians were just doing their jobs of acting as the police and enforcing Council laws, but the Humans, who at this time didn't even know the Council existed, thought that this alien species meant to wipe them out.
@SikGamer70
@SikGamer70 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Reapers, they're essentially the Dark Forest's apex predator, regularly scouring the entire forest and assimilating every hunter they find before they grow too powerful.
@mattstorm360
@mattstorm360 2 жыл бұрын
@@SikGamer70 There is also the brethern moons from Dead Space. Humanity expands outward and finds hundreds of 'dead' planets rich in resources but lacking life. Reason why is because the planets had life eaten off of it or converted into a new brethern moon. Humans have just been finding the remains.
@levi2725
@levi2725 2 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting about the Turians and Humans is that they became very close allies once the war settled. IIRC they're the closest allies among the council.
@Prometheus19853
@Prometheus19853 2 жыл бұрын
@@levi2725 Sometimes you just have to beat the shit out of each other to eventually become best friends.
@stiffyo6068
@stiffyo6068 2 жыл бұрын
@@Prometheus19853 Just like men. Punch each other, followed up by a hand shake
@TravelersWarden
@TravelersWarden 2 жыл бұрын
The Dark Forest is honestly one of the few things that deeply and truly terrify me. I was introduced to the concept through Cixin Liu's Dark Forest trilogy and it's haunted me ever since.
@pepsiatlas5452
@pepsiatlas5452 2 жыл бұрын
if it makes you feel better any detectable civilization is only going to have a tiny fraction of its population actually living on planets. space stations are just so much more practical. if aliens decided to destroy earth they wouldn't really achieve anything other than pissing off the entire human race
@mausunk
@mausunk 2 жыл бұрын
I think I take a sort of comfort at that idea of being wiped out within a second before really being even able to know it lmao, and otherwise, life goes on yay!
@olsenfernandes3634
@olsenfernandes3634 2 жыл бұрын
"If you want Peace, prepare for War" Makes perfect sense in this context.
@darken2417
@darken2417 2 жыл бұрын
And that's why we should wipe out the Xenos and not try to set up some cringe galactic united nations.
@vincentmuyo
@vincentmuyo 2 жыл бұрын
No need to worry, if it was an issue we'd probably already be dead, because it's pretty simple to prepare a kill strike for every solar system in the galaxy. :)
@xjjesus4391
@xjjesus4391 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s important for people to just accept the fact that there is life other than us … but that dosnt mean we need to communicate with them
@k1b04ALL
@k1b04ALL 4 күн бұрын
Back after binging on 3 Body Problem ☀️☀️☀️
@envar1
@envar1 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to finding extraterrestrial intelligent civilizations, we just really got to hope that we are more advanced, or that the other life is docile or peaceful.
@hagron5702
@hagron5702 2 жыл бұрын
What if they are more advanced and more peaceful than us? They could teach us things.
@teafool753
@teafool753 2 жыл бұрын
@@hagron5702 well that'd be a good situation
@eyrthren
@eyrthren 2 жыл бұрын
@@teafool753 I’d say that’s the best case scenario, we’d see massive technological leaps with a benevolent teachers to guide us
@jatinbangar4371
@jatinbangar4371 2 жыл бұрын
They'll look at us the way we look at ants. If they find us, that means the are far more advanced and annihilate us
@lrock48
@lrock48 2 жыл бұрын
@@hagron5702 They probably wouldn't want to associate with us, just tap into our network and go through our history, they'll probably set up a blockade and ground us from leaving Earth atmosphere.
@pangaea5258
@pangaea5258 2 жыл бұрын
If only everyone would see this video and realize that we're in this together - as a species. Puts all of our petty disputes in perspective.
@luigiggig
@luigiggig 2 жыл бұрын
this
@Skemmm
@Skemmm 2 жыл бұрын
but like none of the rich care
@Pskpsi
@Pskpsi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skemmm I care :(
@ethankoh6851
@ethankoh6851 2 жыл бұрын
When a bunch of birds have more sense than most of the world's politicians Warning: Comments below may be controversial
@animeboitiddies6146
@animeboitiddies6146 2 жыл бұрын
except were not. the majority of us are little more than livestock, entertained so long as we sustain our betters. human rule is not benevolent.
@hydrohasspoken6227
@hydrohasspoken6227 10 ай бұрын
"Proceeding aimlessly in the search for extraterrestrial life is a perilous pursuit. We must remain vigilant, for in the depths of the universe, a cosmic Sniper could be lurking."
@pastaya
@pastaya Жыл бұрын
If we ever approach aliens, the smartest way outside of fighting is to give them resources as a “hello”
@Rekken200
@Rekken200 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I’ll watch this at 4am before going to sleep
@SomeRandomUserrr1r23.
@SomeRandomUserrr1r23. 2 жыл бұрын
L
@FnLl523
@FnLl523 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah lets all take a break from vtubers for once
@RicoTalerico
@RicoTalerico 2 жыл бұрын
✝️ *LORD JESUS DIED & ROSE AGAIN TO PAY THE DEBT OF UR SIN!* ✅By Faith in the sacrifice God has made are we saved from the penalty of sin! 🔵Turn from your sin that leads to death & accept His Gift that leads to eternal Life! 💜We are all sinners that need God. No one can say they are perfect to be able to pay their debt of sin. This is why only God could pay the penalty for us, that is merciful Love!
@Nick-dx2pt
@Nick-dx2pt 2 жыл бұрын
@@RicoTalerico bot
@MrDarkanLTU
@MrDarkanLTU 2 жыл бұрын
this video feels alot smoother with these 3d animations,really loving the hard work you guys put in these videos. Hope you will never stop making informational videos because i will not stop watching them, Cheers!
@BossBunnyCom
@BossBunnyCom 2 жыл бұрын
*That's because it's vector art, no pixels AT ALL!*
@raerambaran
@raerambaran 2 жыл бұрын
Yes very informative
@ChodaExploda
@ChodaExploda 2 жыл бұрын
This stuff is based on mostly what ifs and assumptions. .. They literally made a whole story up... The creators of these videos continuously say "we don't know sh*t" ....indirectly...
@rudrayanpramanick2342
@rudrayanpramanick2342 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChodaExploda Nobody knows exactly about these topics bro. This is the reason curiosity and imagination have such a big role to play in such topics.
@jennifervan75
@jennifervan75 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was 2d
@Jim54_
@Jim54_ 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could use the clockwork radio principle to power a probe that won’t be needed to be activated for decades, or possibly even longer. Like a probe sent to Alpha Centauri perhaps, with Solar Radiometers on the probe to both activate the probe as it nears the Solar system its aimed towards, and recharge the clockwork mechanism like a giant self rewinding watch that never stops running. The electronics would have to be powered like a clockwork radio, negating the need for batteries or Nuclear power, which will degrade over extremely long periods. This is the issue with the voyager probes as they age, despite the fact that the electronics and computers within the probe are functioning perfectly after nearly half a century of constant use. The probe would have to be large and capable of making independent decisions, which may require a large amount of older hardier computer chips You could even go a step further, and have small landers on the larger probe that could be fired and directed towards other planets. They could be hardy probes, with a self contained non rechargeable clockwork power source of their own. Preferably a hardy probe to gather planetary data quickly, similar to the Venetian and Titan probes of the past. The only issue would be having a secondary rechargeable clockwork mechanism to power the transmitter, which would have to be very powerful for the extremely long distances to earth. Storage of information until broadcast would be vital. If Spacex can reduce the cost of launches further, perhaps we could have a mother ship probe that could launch smaller satellites like a Clockwork Cassinis, to examine planetary systems and their moons, as well as launch the aforementioned smaller probes This is a bit long winded and hypothetical but its worth thinking about…
@Nyctatyrannus-3938
@Nyctatyrannus-3938 9 ай бұрын
4:02 I got a ad at the perfect time when the arrow hit the screen 💀
@comanche1924
@comanche1924 2 жыл бұрын
The animation just keeps growing more and more engrossing as time goes by. The narrative is great as well, as usual, and I like the return to these speculative stories, but I think the visual aspect really deserves special praise in this case
@exoels
@exoels 2 жыл бұрын
No shit
@Skemmm
@Skemmm 2 жыл бұрын
I'm taking the first spot here. Don't know what to say
@omariond5269
@omariond5269 2 жыл бұрын
I’m taking the second spot here. Don’t know what to say
@mortalkomment8028
@mortalkomment8028 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skemmm I'm taking the third spot here. The dude above doesn't count. Those graphics are crazy.
@Skemmm
@Skemmm 2 жыл бұрын
@@mortalkomment8028I'm taking the fourth spot here once again. Are you sure that dude doesn't count?
@pranavrumala
@pranavrumala 2 жыл бұрын
This channel's production quality is so high, it's suspicious one might even say it's *out of this world* is Kurzgeagt secretly a team of aliens trying to stop the humans from finding out
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You know how they always have pictures of birds? Yeah, that's actually what they look like in real life.
@skydenandardenschedules368
@skydenandardenschedules368 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@53Aquilae
@53Aquilae 2 жыл бұрын
0
@electronx5594
@electronx5594 2 жыл бұрын
0
@EpsteinsRope
@EpsteinsRope 2 жыл бұрын
One thing is certain, Kurzgeagt is definitely a team of people. Certainly not just 1 person
@m.n.7426
@m.n.7426 7 ай бұрын
„We want to know if we are alone in the universe“ speak for your selves, lads! Some of us just want to improve life on our planet for all its inhabitants.
@Lemonpopz
@Lemonpopz Жыл бұрын
It fills me with joy to see someone else use the Holocene calendar
@maro
@maro 2 жыл бұрын
it's kinda sad that none of us will be alive to witness any of this but it's still comforting to know that one day space exploration is possible and humanity will reach very far into space
@tourguideofthemultiversesp739
@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 2 жыл бұрын
Anti-aging can make it so we DO witness it.
@123misou
@123misou 2 жыл бұрын
@@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 Yes.. Anti aging.. You know.. That utterly common thing that we as humans have totally figured out how to do by now..
@tourguideofthemultiversesp739
@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 2 жыл бұрын
@@123misou VERY close to figuring out, just not there yet.
@puddend6912
@puddend6912 2 жыл бұрын
one day.
@123misou
@123misou 2 жыл бұрын
@@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 Dude, we still can't even completely prevent covid and people are dying from it, let's not even mention cancer.. And here you are talking about being close to curing death itself
@raghav6271
@raghav6271 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel like that this kind of animation should be use in online teaching or E-Learning.I mean just look at this artistic style its would be very hard to distract yourself from these while studying
@hackedtechnothief
@hackedtechnothief 2 жыл бұрын
definitively. schools should learn a lot from content like this and adapt.
@Shimo_28
@Shimo_28 2 жыл бұрын
@@hackedtechnothief I wish so much
@classypharaoh1584
@classypharaoh1584 2 жыл бұрын
Schools often use kurzgesagt in classes. (Currently in high school) (AUSTRALIA)
@Shimo_28
@Shimo_28 2 жыл бұрын
@@classypharaoh1584 the only problem I have with schools overhere in (Slovakia) is that 40-60% we learn is useless bullcrap that I won't never need in my entire life. It is a bit better in high school but I still must learn some of the useless stuff that I don't care about
@hackedtechnothief
@hackedtechnothief 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shimo_28 I'm in the caribbeans and It's the same if not worst, theres a lot of decay education that is really slow on updating to modern times (on purpose as always)
@P010010010100101
@P010010010100101 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video for the dark forest theory!
@polydynamix7521
@polydynamix7521 7 ай бұрын
The 'first strike' concept only works if you're certain the other species only lives on one planet. Any species capable of waging interstellar war is likely living on several planets, hundreds of giant space stations, and probably some moons too. The first strike wipes out a planet, sure... maybe you hit several- but if you don't get them all then you've made an enemy for the rest of that species' entire existence. Not only that, assume that 10% of the species survived elsewhere, they're going to spread out even more- to minimize the chance of being targeted. Such a tactic would certainly work against humans, we would be wiped out except for a slowly starving ISS, but against another species capable of reaching out across stars, it would be very difficult to execute.
@ailius8622
@ailius8622 2 жыл бұрын
The production value on this video was absolutely amazing. Well done to everyone on the team at Kurzegesagt, be proud of yourselves.
@jlwilder8436
@jlwilder8436 2 жыл бұрын
They know/they are. 😏 😉
@randaranatunga7259
@randaranatunga7259 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say, the use of the hunter and the fight for survival being used as a vehicle to drive the narrative is very well thought out. Makes it that much more interesting to listen to.
@Budymierdas
@Budymierdas 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a new idea tho. Pretty sure they got it from the Central Park allegory from that one 4chan post from several years ago
@randaranatunga7259
@randaranatunga7259 2 жыл бұрын
@@Budymierdas oh I didn’t know that. Either way it’s really interesting and I’m probably gonna read into it, Thanks for the info :)
@BADAB0O0O0O0O0M
@BADAB0O0O0O0O0M 2 жыл бұрын
it;s actually from the book theu got the idead from. the book is called the dark forest
@leeow3n
@leeow3n 10 ай бұрын
The Three Body Problem was a great book series.
@jujuoof174
@jujuoof174 20 күн бұрын
One of my favourites of yours!!
@StephenHenryIV
@StephenHenryIV 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Forest Theory was always so discomforting. Like there’s billion of eyes on us waiting for a chance to strike, but they know the 1st that does reveals themselves so they all just let us be.
@couldntcareless7884
@couldntcareless7884 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not really it. I mean, there are multiple ways to strike, while remaining concealed. Simplest one would be to launch a strike from far away from your home system. The idea isn’t that they watch us. The idea is that they watch everything, striking at the one who reveals themselves. We’re alive because we didn’t.
@Cooldude-ko7ps
@Cooldude-ko7ps 2 жыл бұрын
Dark forest theory?
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation 2 жыл бұрын
We aren't even a type one civilization yet and it would probably be a couple hundred thousands year before we even come close to being a potential hazard to them, they probably have other more important things to worry about than to kill a random level 1 planet.
@StephenHenryIV
@StephenHenryIV 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cooldude-ko7ps the theory of all other life hiding in the dark forest of space, hoping nothing else finds them, striking hard and fast if something does.
@gaeborg
@gaeborg 2 жыл бұрын
When you've just arrived in Greed Island
@pixelcrunch300
@pixelcrunch300 2 жыл бұрын
Besides the existential questions proposed in the vid, can we all agree that this is Kurzgesagt's best-animated video yet?
@baguettedepain3975
@baguettedepain3975 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's pretty amazing.
@rosieboomer2910
@rosieboomer2910 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe someone's porgie has a 🥖
@pixelcrunch300
@pixelcrunch300 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosieboomer2910 What?
@slimes3120
@slimes3120 2 жыл бұрын
@@pixelcrunch300 they mean lorsque l'intrus commet des actes malveillants
@dasmilyshelf6999
@dasmilyshelf6999 2 жыл бұрын
But there were no burning birds…
@unknown.ben2006
@unknown.ben2006 10 ай бұрын
I think this is one of my favourite theories about aliens. It mixes primal instincts and futuristic space explorations! XD But, to be honest, I like to think that there aren't many high-tech, advanced alien civilizations out there. Maybe the majority of aliens are just like us, living simple lives, going to school or work, having breakfast, telling stories to one another, loving, hating, crying, laughing. Just like us. And if life itself only evolves in extremely specific conditions, such as those on Earth, I have absolute certainty that people of the planets that are similar to our Earth isn't that much different from ourselves. Maybe their skin is blue or red or yellow, but maybe they too have two eyes, to hands with five fingers, hair etc. And if all of that is true, they are asking the same questions. They are looking at our Sun the same way we look at Sirius or Aldebaran in the night sky. Maybe they also have their own Moon. I like to think that way, because it makes me feel more connected to them, to people that I don't even know if exist, if they exist at all, but are possibly very similar to me, both anatomically and philosophically.
@Percent-n3
@Percent-n3 9 ай бұрын
A structure would probably create an abundance of life. The abundance will have to successfully strive and survive and multiply. With that being said, there are so many different ways any type of abundances could look. Space is completely empty. 99.999 space is empty. Physics seems to limit how fast matter can travel through space. 1 star is approximately 5 light years apart from the next..
@dakotamartinez8310
@dakotamartinez8310 4 ай бұрын
Those are interesting ideas.
@Bebetterld1fw
@Bebetterld1fw 4 ай бұрын
Our universe ain't a fantasy Tale where everyone is happy and Diverse 💀 This is the Reality Nothing Is like a fantasy here
@donnadong5837
@donnadong5837 Жыл бұрын
The three body problem TV series from Tencent is out woooo
@willphoenix5464
@willphoenix5464 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Dark Forest theory gain a bit of time in the spotlight. Reading it in the Three Body Problem's trilogy was a sudden and rather dreadful realitzation
@Skemmm
@Skemmm 2 жыл бұрын
oooh, I read some other comments citing this book, gotta read it.
@TheOnlyDragonGod
@TheOnlyDragonGod 2 жыл бұрын
If the next two books good I have read the first but haven't had the chance to get to the next two
@andrewmurphy2088
@andrewmurphy2088 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOnlyDragonGod the second one is the best book I have ever read. Third book is very strong also
@TheOnlyDragonGod
@TheOnlyDragonGod 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmurphy2088 interesting I will look to reading them
@neeneko
@neeneko 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda in the opposite direction. Long before Three Body Problem, dark forest was a recurring trope in sci-fi. It fell out of favor at least half a century ago, but Liu Cixin grew up on those books so brought it back from the dustbin of history. It was an idea rooted in an era where mercantilism and colonialism were the dominant economic theories and while the books skip over that aspect (since it would betray its age), the whole idea still rests on VERY outdated economics and political science. So I am actually a bit sad to see it get so much attention again.
@sorrellion1414
@sorrellion1414 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's talking about the conjecture and how scary it is (valid), but can we talk about how fantastic this episode looks? The portions within the metaphorical 'dark forest' with the hunter are genuine works of art
@treeboy6287
@treeboy6287 Жыл бұрын
Based on Cixin Liu novels The dark forest, three body problem
@queeny5613
@queeny5613 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@muriloams
@muriloams Жыл бұрын
Did you get the reference to the film Driver?
@corvespid4925
@corvespid4925 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Absolutely stylish.
@alec1202
@alec1202 Ай бұрын
Just think someone or something could already be listening or watching us from out there. Or even be heading towards us in the shadows and we just haven't spotted them.
@mykelpoole4201
@mykelpoole4201 7 ай бұрын
Great artwork 👌
@emi_marsilli9670
@emi_marsilli9670 Жыл бұрын
“Maybe the only way out of the dark forest is to step into the clearing, together” one of my favorites quotes from this channel. ❤️
@jeneeberry2157
@jeneeberry2157 Жыл бұрын
Or let's chop it all down, we are rlly good at deforestation (joke)
@TheSuperdarklord100
@TheSuperdarklord100 Жыл бұрын
inb4 we do that and some other race spots us both and eliminates us both
@bastienpetit5161
@bastienpetit5161 Жыл бұрын
famous last words
@hugegamer5988
@hugegamer5988 Жыл бұрын
It’s too late, we blew the horn. By many many orders of magnitude larger than any purposeful broadcast in human history we have already signaled aliens. It’s the EMP from nuclear detonations, converting a bit of mass to an insane amount of energy in a infinitesimal amount of time , a significant portion of which is electromagnetic radiation. If aliens are listening they didn’t hear our news broadcasts, tv shows, or purposeful signals because the noise of nuclear bombs is far beyond a quadrillion times more powerful.
@tjw2469
@tjw2469 Жыл бұрын
They say this in the video just to please the audience. Use logic and think what the worst consequences would be and whether our civilization can afford such consequences.
@Goat-on-a-Stick
@Goat-on-a-Stick 2 жыл бұрын
Something tells me that if they were dangerous enough to pose a threat, they'd probably know about us first.
@denisdenak
@denisdenak 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they do
@bosha6654
@bosha6654 2 жыл бұрын
well really any space capable civilisation would be a threat to pretty much every other space capable civilisation because of the big rock technique (tm)
@Needkey.
@Needkey. 2 жыл бұрын
And if they were a threat we'd already be dead. They are already here in any case, as Earth is one big Zoo, and we, the exhibits.
@alexanfung
@alexanfung 2 жыл бұрын
yes, so in contrary, if their (our) weapons are not advance enough, do not detect others as the detection may trigger their technological explosion
@froggy3047
@froggy3047 2 жыл бұрын
No they can't the universe is too big if they knew they needs to be really close to use probably 1 light years away...
@Joeljaboy
@Joeljaboy 21 күн бұрын
love the ‘Drive’ reference
@richardzacek5578
@richardzacek5578 4 ай бұрын
Srive cameo on end is wholesome
@CGKey
@CGKey 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Kurzgesagt managed to emulate their 2D style through shaders in 3D is absolutely amazing, well done guys!
@fighterwho
@fighterwho 2 жыл бұрын
They pay a guy on fiverr
@MewPurPur
@MewPurPur 2 жыл бұрын
@@fighterwho Nah, they are a team of 40 people.
@shivam7156
@shivam7156 2 жыл бұрын
Dammmmmmmmmmmm i didn't even noticed!!! That was smooth af
@elko1860
@elko1860 2 жыл бұрын
Honest question. Can we really call something displayed in a 2D plane a 3D animation? I understand that for practical purposes, we consider it to be 3D as it “appears” that way. But in reality it is 2D as it appears on our phones, laptops, etc. It’s just our semantical way of framing it, right?
@MewPurPur
@MewPurPur 2 жыл бұрын
@@elko1860 The computer does 3D calculations for 3D, even though you can only see it from one direction at a time.
@mandy2917
@mandy2917 2 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely obsessed with this video and the idea it presents. I've seen all the other Fermi Paradox videos your team has made, but this one is the best in my personal opinion. It presents such a dark, grim, but possibly extremely realistic purview of what the universe might actually be like.
@deryoad
@deryoad 2 жыл бұрын
You should read the trilogy from Cixin Liu! First book is called the three body problem, second is “the dark forest” - so you can imagine it’s dead on the subject :)
@zzajizz
@zzajizz 2 жыл бұрын
@@deryoad reading the trilogy filled me with existential dread. It was so exhilarating yet depressing at the same time.
@feodaron89
@feodaron89 2 жыл бұрын
there is another possibility...life on other planets and their "technologies" may be just incomprehensible for us. Take for example some kind of zerg from Starcraft, who literally grow their ships from biomass and communicate using psionics. We cannot communicate with such aliens. We will not be able to detect such aliens (they do not use radio waves). Our technologies are simply incompatible. And this is a very ... mundane example, because they can be much more bizarre. And they may not necessarily be a carbon-based life form like us. They could be silicon life form for example. Their physiology will be fundamentally different from ours.
@The_Blue_Otaku
@The_Blue_Otaku 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine earth finally getting a message from space, and after decoding it, the message says "new phone who dis"
@Saplingbat
@Saplingbat 2 жыл бұрын
Any civilization that makes it to an interstellar level will need to have a lot higher regard for sentient life forms than we do. Otherwise, like us, they'll end up offing themselves long before they get to the point where they can effectively travel the stars.
@MuzixMaker
@MuzixMaker 11 ай бұрын
Most likely if anyone is out there they have learned to keep themselves hidden.
@desperate4dopamine
@desperate4dopamine 10 ай бұрын
Lol like they were looking through there much more advanced telescopes they panned over to earth and just went 😨😰🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮 and made a mental note to not go there. Ever…
@kennywedlake2981
@kennywedlake2981 16 күн бұрын
Terrifying visions of James Cameron's Xenomorph Aliens comes to mind...
@AlphaSteboh
@AlphaSteboh 2 жыл бұрын
I hope someone is making a collection of all of the lil' aliens that they make on Kurzgesagt, because I love all of them and would love to see more of them ALL the time.
@javajeff714
@javajeff714 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@acookie7548
@acookie7548 2 жыл бұрын
there is now a demand for kurzgesagt compilation videos
@jaypolas4136
@jaypolas4136 2 жыл бұрын
Yej
@FRED.shorts
@FRED.shorts 2 жыл бұрын
NFT Idea 😄👍🏻
@jleague5749
@jleague5749 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been funny if they ended this with the two hunters coming out into the clearing, finally casting off their mutual fear and distrust... only to get hit by a relativisitic kill vehicle.
@tobymaltby6036
@tobymaltby6036 2 жыл бұрын
Their fear and distrust was all...... ......relative.
@motifity3416
@motifity3416 2 жыл бұрын
Their deaths were relative too.
@Creativestname
@Creativestname 2 жыл бұрын
Their life was relative
@berretta9mm17
@berretta9mm17 2 жыл бұрын
@@Creativestname Even their relatives were relative.
@Creativestname
@Creativestname 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@artfx9
@artfx9 Жыл бұрын
I have a new theory why we don't see advanced civilizations. At some point, when a civilization is developed enough, aliens come and do massive destruction. If the civilization survives, it makes a huge effort to keep quiet.
@joshuaoide4523
@joshuaoide4523 10 ай бұрын
Our eyes r not opened enough to c them
@redwolf6334
@redwolf6334 6 ай бұрын
The visuals in this video and story would make such a cool movie or show
@LetsbeHonestOfficial
@LetsbeHonestOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I swear I could watch a 12 hour video of this and enjoy it more than most series out there. Thank you for another great year of educational entertainment! I can't wait for what you have in store for 12022.
@GuilhermeDias-px5uw
@GuilhermeDias-px5uw 2 жыл бұрын
that's quite far from today
@AlokKumar-tk1ty
@AlokKumar-tk1ty 2 жыл бұрын
But thats necessity of our species now where most doesnt even know these exist and doesnt want to know being on youtube.... I.e we should prioritize the importance of things existing out there, atleast in our brain.....(not doing is different)
@lifePaultheball
@lifePaultheball 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever feel disappointed of not seeing aliens just know that we are universe's way of experiencing itself.
@Louis13XIII
@Louis13XIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuilhermeDias-px5uw it's next year
@dcrxz8717
@dcrxz8717 2 жыл бұрын
Educational entertainment is not how I would describe this personally. It gives me existential crisis every time I see these videos. Haha
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