Why We Should Take Zombie Apocalypses More Seriously

[@StarTalk]

What's your first move in a zombie apocalypse?

[@go_nav96]

Buy Food!

[@legalizedcomedy]

I need to be a funny zombie

[@piger0821]

1rd comment

[@englewoodmusic]

Make love baby what do you mean son?!

[@smirni18]

Get bitten - fight human

[@cubah1]

When I was playing the last of us, it got to the point where I got tired of fighting the humans with their guns and weapons. Finally the game made me fight the clickers and runners again and I was like “ah, finally I get to fight the monsters”. I thought it was funny since they are supposed to be the scary ones, but in reality the humans would be the true enemy

[@just_Lee2]

same thing for me was in Far Cry 1

[@ViriatusYT]

Every survival game ever

[@alexcardosa8079]

How are there clickers still after more than a decade. Felt that it was unrealistic considering the lore.

[@lurisy9045]

I doubt you’d feel like that irl if you felt the presence of fear from being around them 😂

[@The_Sleepiest_Socialist]

Personally, I really like how the game flips between them.

[@matthewjohnson53]

This discussion is exactly why i moved off grid. I have solar that runs my lights and fridge, a backup generator for bad weather, a well that runs on solar as well as a backup hand pump. And plenty of acres to plant. Plus its a very peaceful life.

[@DCVerThe3rd]

And a book case of "how to books" most important weapon for end of days

[@matthewjohnson53]

@@DCVerThe3rd yes, actually LMBO I do have a bunch of "how to books"! When there is no Internet, you're going to thank me for saving these books. Lol

[@andrewashby70]

​@@matthewjohnson53 any book title recommendations?

[@NickanM]

We took over a big house that has been passed down in my husbands family since 1684, it is in the middle of nowhere, we have our own well, all fireplaces are working and we have a big peace of land to plant & hunt on. Best thing we ever done I don't miss the cities I've lived in before. We are 28 people in the village. Hubby is an electrician and wants to build a water powered power plant, well see how it turns out.

[@matthewjohnson53]

@@andrewashby70 The Lost Ways is pretty good, it has a lot of good information and history, it's a fun read. Any books you can pick up on medicinal/edible plants in your area. And pick up a farmers almanac, it will help you prepare for weather, growing seasons, what to plant and when, plus tons of coupons and good articles to read.

[@FourthRoot]

At a MENSA meeting I met a FEMA coordinator, and he spoke about a recent workshop he hosted where they discussed effective strategies for dealing with a Zombie Apocalypse, no joke. It wasn't exactly because they feared a Zombie Apocalypse, but because the strategies employed would translate to other disaster scenarios and because it would be more engaging to attendees.

[@juanmanuelpenaloza9264]

They even have a comicbook-style instruction manual on how to respond in case of such a scenario.

[@noelcruz2891]

That is top-tier marketing😅

[@manuwilson4695]

What about WOOLY WOOFTA meetings...been to any of those?

[@Myria83]

Any link to share?@@juanmanuelpenaloza9264

[@reasonerenlightened2456]

WE ALREADY LIVE IN A REAL ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, because from the perspective of the individual most people are zombies. Why? Because, the people see the individual as a resource to extract some benefit from like profit or labour, etc. Zombies see humans as as food LIKE humans see humans as a resource to exploit. It is the same thing. Every economic textbook talks about the households providing labour to the firms and the firms providing goods to the households. IF THAT IS NOT ZOMBIFICATION OF THE HUMANS then what is. A human is indivisible from his labour, therefore providing labour means providing humans.

[@davidespinosa8242]

Im glad someone smarter than me has come out and said it. I have been saying the same thing for years. If you’re going to “prep” for an apocalypse then it should be the zombie apocalypse, because it really covers most of the problems of other apocalypses.

[@DanYHKim2]

That's why the CDC published a comic book about zombie apocalypse preparation as a metaphor for pandemic preparation.

[@Adiscretefirm]

If you have the same plan for high water and high winds you need to rethink the plan

[@twodogsandapicnictable]

Zombie movies are never about the zombies. They're about how people treat eachother in times of desparation when they have to cooperate to survive. Pretty much every one of them. The other people are always more dangerous than the zombies.

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

28 days later. Scared the &@&@* out of me.

[@kellyrobinson1780]

I was a fan of "Revolution". A TV series about how a computer virus? (🤔? No; that wouldn't do it) or something, maybe a space weather event (🤔?) shut down electricity all over the globe. Nothing electrical would work. Even batteries lost their charge; hand-cranked generators, nothing, despite the physics that said it should. Like a worldwide EMP or something. The rest was the struggle of people to adapt. The story especially followed the Mathiesons, a family who were somehow close to the event. National governments that existed before the event were no longer able to govern the full breadth of their former countries, and fractured. Anyone with the will and resources to do it established their own regional fiefdoms, often dictatorships. There were conflicts, struggles for power and resources. One such ruler was Miles Mathieson. His remaining, dispersed family managed to gather together and begin a pilgrimage to reunite with him. As they traveled, hints of sinister, disturbing secrets were revealed, including the prospect that the global disaster may have been engineered, that Miles may have had a connection to it, that some people secretly somehow had access to limited use of electricity, and that there might be a way to turn the power back on for everyone that was being kept secret to maintain political power by one of the tyrants. The show lasted two or three seasons, and was abruptly cancelled, leaving writers to scramble for an acceptable final episode.

[@sketchtheparadigmyork1217]

Which is why I tend to not like zombie movies because they get boring reallly fast. Soon as the focus shifts from the zombies to petty human bs it’s boring.

[@theduder2617]

"Return of the Living Dead" was far more about the zombies than it was ever about the humans.

[@theduder2617]

@@sketchtheparadigmyork1217 The part of the movie that becomes about how society breaks down into nothing but violence against each other bores you? Not sure how you've missed it, but aside from the lack of zombies in the traditional sense, modern society is essentially at that very point of breakage. EVERYONE looking for ways to be violent towards others, ALL based upon their personal desires and literally nothing more. "Boring"?? Or an opportunity to vote in candidates who have no interest in the collapse of everything which defines us as a "modern" society. Gotta say, the latter sure makes logical sense, for it directly benefits humans and not political agenda/personal belief. I suspect, come an actual zombie apocalypse, you would be what is called on the street, a "day 1".

[@REEL-MULLINS]

The one thing that gets me about zombie movies is the fact dams don't overflow and collapse. Not to mention other things that would cause large scale environmental disasters.

[@lothean2099]

Fear the walking dead did address these environmental issues.

[@Cloud30000]

Dams are specifically designed to shed water once a threshold is exceeded, so this is just a misunderstanding of how dams work. You wouldn’t want a dam malfunction or power loss today to lead to hundreds of thousands dying in a dam collapse.

[@maximoreeves2199]

In z nation most of the country had been nuked or otherwise.

[@DavidMaloney-q3t]

IF that happened, I'm pretty sure those things break down, we just don't see it because the story is contained to areas WAY WAY far away than those specific structures are located. It definitely would happen though for sure.

[@danielowens1883]

@@maximoreeves2199Z NATION MENTIONED! Still shipping Addie and Simon

[@MysteriaSdrassa]

I've always said, if the apocolypse happens, Zombie or otherwise, most people would either starve or be killed by another human for something they had

[@ogelsmogel]

Definitely. Then the darkest, ugliest sides of our species comes out. I hope it doesn't happen during our life time.

[@reasonerenlightened2456]

WE ALREADY LIVE IN A REAL ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, because from the perspective of the individual most people are zombies. Why? Because, the people see the individual as a resource to extract some benefit from like profit or labour, etc. Zombies see humans as food LIKE humans see humans as a resource to exploit. It is the same thing. Every economic textbook talks about the households providing labour to the firms and the firms providing goods to the households. IF THAT IS NOT ZOMBIFICATION OF THE HUMANS then what is. A human is indivisible from his labour, therefore providing labour means providing humans.

[@ianreed9638]

if it's a virus that can spread through silva blood pretty sure flies will be way more dangerous than zombie.. coz flies been known to be a carrier of some deseases.. i think movie makers forgets about flies and how thy wil rapidly increase during zombie apocalypse..

[@michaelmurphy7177]

Water, clean water is the most important!

[@nightreapers3425]

We seen how people acted when Covid first started. Would be exactly the same if a zombie outbreak would happen. It is so likely to happen

[@ladylibra1982]

I actually hated zombies as a kid bcuz of seeing Michael Jackson's Thriller as a toddler. Yes, Im old 🫣 and love horror movies, but specifically avoided anything with zombies! I absolutely LOVED The Walking Dead, and it completely changed my mind on the entire genre of post-apocalyptic books and movies. The breakdown of our current society, and the psychological aspects behind that? Both fascinating and properly horrifying. Being eaten alive is certainly terrifying, but at least it's over relatively quickly. Living in constant fear of what other humans could do to you 😢 YIKES!

[@basically_boring]

I tried to watch the Thriller music video as a kid as well, scared the [REDACTED] out of me.

[@NordicJarl27]

For me it was just the definite fear of being eaten alive. It was resident evil that made me fear zombies when I was kid

[@kristingallo2158]

Bad news, there's people walking around right now who probably have bodies in their basement

[@kylejohnson1308]

Kind of the same with me. Just not the Michael Jackson video part. Zombie movies just creeped me out. Then I watched the first episode of The Walking Dead and I was hooked.

[@alphadios2003]

@@NordicJarl27 Resident Evil made you fear zombies? For me RE was actually the cure, well, together with CS 1.6's Zombie Mod. What scared me was Day of the Dead and those super powerful zombies that were tearing humans apart.

[@LSA30]

Let’s face it: 99% of us would not be the hero, but a zombie in these scenarios😂

[@Ghost-jy9hk]

I’m already a zombie

[@hyperproductionsa]

I don't think 80 million people would be heroes 😅

[@JuanDiego-vx7bx]

Happy zombie here! No debt, no job, nothing to worry about, plenty of food out there. Bring the brains!

[@FuzzyLP]

@@JuanDiego-vx7bxgotta be careful not to get close to some plant you know? might not be so great for ya xD

[@RuneFoot]

Lucky me mi might not be a hero but where i live we will be fine.

[@VickyViolet]

The whole time I was definitely thinking about The Last of Us. (The video game specifically, I haven't seen the show.) But yes, that narrative really focuses on personal survival, small groups with their own society, extreme distrust towards strangers, and of course, spending less time killing zombies and WAY more time killing other non-infected humans. Love how realistic and problematic it is.

[@BabaShmoogs]

Please go and watch the show! Its amazing!

[@VickyViolet]

@@BabaShmoogs I went to check it out pretty much right after this. It is shockingly close to the original, right down to a lot of one-to-one dialogue.

[@BabaShmoogs]

@@VickyViolet Do you like it?

[@Riddlemethisdetective]

Undead nightmare to

[@AURON2401]

Last of us is actually a realistic way to produce how a potential zombie or zombie-like apocalypse would happen.

[@aaronpettigrew9674]

Even with all the supply chain problems during the pandemic shutdowns, I never once had a day off that wasn't planned home time and took less of that than I used to before it started. Yes, I'm a career trucker. I don't have a bunker, but if it happens, Neil and Chuck, you both would be welcome to ride it out with me in Tennessee, and if it gets real bad, we can go to Wyoming. You won't go hungry. That was fun.

[@happyspaceinvader508]

In a true apocalypse, gasoline would eventually run out, probably much quicker than you think. Everything you currently take for granted would be stripped away, bit by bit until you’re essentially living like all other animals… which may sound like fun… until you get cancer (or some other medical condition that requires medical treatment or palliative care).

[@aaronpettigrew9674]

@happyspaceinvader508 As someone who actually lived in the mountains on the outskirts of Medicine Bow National Forest, I am fully aware of the dangers faced. As someone who has also worked in the oil industry, yes, I know that accessible fuel will run out much faster than most people realize, even those places that will hold it longer, most fuel will go bad in some way or another. The reason I know how to do much more than most modern Americans is because my my grandparents and great-grandparents lived through the depression and the dust bowl. They made sure we knew how to grow, forage, hunt, and preserve food. They made sure we understood old world medicine. While infection and disease are high on the list of dangers, the greatest danger would be desperate people who would rather steal than learn.

[@TwistedStitchesShow]

Will you teach me how to drive a rig? I’ll drive the wheels off one. (I can drive stick and motorcycles just not a rig!) bad cuz my uncle and dad drove!! 😳. And yeah TN mountains here I come. (If a zombie apocalypse)

[@aaronpettigrew9674]

@TwistedStitchesShow the company I drive for doesn't do training, but I'm willing to help anyone that wants to learn find a good place to start.

[@docsspot1953]

I hear you! Haven’t been vaccinated either nor will I Everyone I Kno that was vaccinated got sick. Multiple times in most cases.

[@isntyournamebacon]

I remember the CDC years ago had pages on the site with survival tips for different types of disasters. Hurricane, wild fire, earth quake and stuff. They had one for Zombies. The idea was it would be a very general survival bag and would be useful in any of the other disasters. Ya know general stuff. First aid kit, knife, multi tool, fire starters. They didnt recommend guns though. If your forced to use a gun, your goose is cooked anyway. But as funny as it sounds the goal was to get people to do something. Even just a backpack with some stuff in it. It would help when the poo hits the fan.

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

I loved how neil mentioned key and peele 😂😂😂

[@mikotagayuna8494]

Makes sense since Jordan actually portrayed him in one of their sketches.

[@reggiecarter6082]

& the fact that he could barely get it out without cracking up 🤣🤣🤣

[@dustman96]

That was the single dumbest thing people did during covid, buying tons of toilet paper.

[@tboneforreal]

It was, but it showed how people think and how frightening fast things can happen with the speed information flows now. A few people irrationally bought and hoarded a ton of toilet paper and that caused other people to fear not being able to get toilet paper later so they bought and hoarded toilet paper. Then social media starts showing the empty shelves and more people are now thinking they have to go find toilet paper before it all runs out. Eventually, even people who know this is silly are out buying toilet paper because they don't want to run out either.

[@virajbadoni7318]

Living in a zombie apocalypse with Neil and Chuck might not be an apocalypse after all🤣🤣

[@rgibbs9734]

They would put zombies on a trend mill to generate energy for us.

[@Itsallfun3000]

That's the apocalypse I want!

[@graydanerasmussen4071]

@@rgibbs9734 Face it: They had it coming! That's what you get for breaking the laws of entropy! :D

[@yann1013]

I love Key&Peele's sketches about my personal astrophysicist, too 😊 They should include Chuck on their next one

[@areyouseriousholmes]

i love the neil ones haha

[@gmt5664]

In Hawai'i we're very vulnerable. We're dependent on the supply chain for nearly everything. Even if isolation protects us from some kind of pandemic, we need supply chain for food, fuel, everything.

[@VainerCactus0]

Sounds like you need to fill a cupboard with spare water and food.

[@gmt5664]

@@VainerCactus0 i have food and water for 2 weeks

[@smoothlyamusing]

​@@gmt5664you might can stretch that to 3 weeks if you ration, but... what happens at week 4

[@johnjanuary4918]

Less than 200 years ago the orginal Hawaiian people lived there... for centuries.

[@kriptonis]

Nice to see a picture of my homeland, Portugal, as the first nation to be shown to go down if a Zombie Apocalypse comes. Warmed my heart Neal ❤😅

[@ColtonGamingTV]

Let's be honest diseases are the thing you need to worry about in a zombie apocalypse along with food/water/shelter.

[@noelcruz2891]

Yes.. and insanity

[@happyspaceinvader508]

Well yes… cancer isn’t going away.

[@Vynzent]

​@@happyspaceinvader508are you sure cancer wouldn't pity us and leave?

[@reasonerenlightened2456]

I worry about food/water/shelter and diseases every single day. Does it mean we live in a society of zombies around us?

[@ColtonGamingTV]

@@reasonerenlightened2456 One could make an argument that is the case already.

[@HeathenCyc]

I just love this channel can literally talk about anything and it’s still relevant.

[@supasoulproductions]

Don't worry folks. The CDC actually has published a graphic novel about what to do during a Zombie Apocalypse. Not kidding. Look up "Preparedness 101: Zombie Pandemic".

[@Tree-thingz]

This is no laughing 😐 matter.

[@JamesCAlien]

Been out for long time.ive read it before.its serious

[@gmt5664]

I have that. It's a good guide to prepare for any disaster.

[@supasoulproductions]

@@Tree-thingz It is just a great and entertaining method for the CDC to point out many disaster preparedness tips in a way that folks can actually enjoy reading.

[@Mackyle-Wotring]

I also encountered a legit US military plan for stopping a Zombie Apocalypse. It is called Contingency Plan 8888.

[@kyleburkholder6003]

This concept is what scares me about any world ending event. I am not a preper or skilled in agricultural but I think that if I was to survive a world ending event I would be able to improvise, adopt, and overcome just about anything except the break down of society.

[@Richard-ug4el]

I loved World War Z for the fact that the zombies were so fast. It made them all the more terrifying. I also love the idea of zombies not being able to walk backwards. That would make for some funny story twists.

[@BESTMOAD]

Imagine a zombie apocalypse with big fat slopy 870 pound reddit mod fat guys that can run faster than Usain bolt for hours know parcour and every fighting style that has ever existed on earth has xray vision infrared vision night vision can see over 8k miles away and has an iq of 8000 also they have 10 foot arms and hearing better than the don't breath monsters and when they bear hug you u turn into one if them inless than half a second and all your knowledge about hideouts or whatever is added to them

[@GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES.]

​@@apsoypike1956 Yeah, the movie was absolutely crap compared to the book... Not even close!

[@Man_ofvalor]

That’s how they will end up being it’s happening

[@MajorClownShoe]

You loved the film, has nothing in common with the book but the title. Abysmal adaptation.

[@Richard-ug4el]

@@MajorClownShoe Lol, I don't care. As I said, I liked the idea.

[@voxorox]

James Burke did an interesting series of shows in the 70s called "Connections" that kind of covered this. He didn't frame it with a zombie apocalypse, just a general question of "everything breaks down permanently." His narrative actually started with a real 1960s blackout across the entire northeast. Then he takes you on a brief ride through how would you survive? (You get to a farm, and learn how to do it without gas or electric, all while defending yourself, basically.) Then the series walks through certain key points in history that explain how everything became so interconnected. He called it the "technology trap."

[@gustavofigueiredo1798]

Thanks for the tip!

[@robertdeland3390]

Defending oneself with bullets made by whom? On the farm, using machinery using fuel from where? Even that well done program missed important points.

[@duellinksantimeta7636]

@@robertdeland3390 obviously you have to do all this stuff without machines. You can do farming without machines. They already did this for thousends of years.

[@duellinksantimeta7636]

@@robertdeland3390 you would also probably use big axes, if you don’t have guns

[@robertdeland3390]

@@duellinksantimeta7636 true, but today's farmers use machines not oxen driven plows. Farmers tend to be rather resourceful people, so I agree that an ax is fine as they already have them for now, and as time goes by they could make stone axes, even spears or bows and arrows.

[@adventureswithfrodo2721]

Guy in Austrailia bough 120 boxes of 144 rolls of toilet paper at the start of covid. He tried to return them well the store owner told him where he could put them.

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

Those people are brainless. I don't know what else to say.

[@TheNotverysocial]

Bright side: He never has to buy anymore of it ever again, set for generations.

[@sew75962]

Lol after surviving the central Texas blizzard of 2021 where the power grid collapsed and the water treatment plants were offline, and I was stuck in my house under ice (with no heat/power/running water) for 3 days, I started investing in a few survival items.

[@graydanerasmussen4071]

Smart move. You might want to upgrade your politicians, too :)

[@brianjones6500]

The only way this video could have been better is if Neil and Chuck actually did this talk in [Mulauge] Halloween style zombie makeup. Happy Halloween guys. Your show keeps getting better and better.

[@Specz187]

Day by day Armageddon by J.L. Bourne is a book i remember reading in high school about what an ex marine would do in a zombie apocalypse, it depicted the real life scenario of supply chain issues, food power and water. Now ive seen it somewhat working for fedex freight in the last 10 years. Since the trade tarriffs, to covid things that hurt industries. Once our tractor trailers stop supplying things can get crazy, especially in the cities, it would become lawless. You have what i need.

[@roberthiltz2741]

Great video! I am definitely not a conspiracy theorist or a doomsday prepper but I have had this conversation with many people over the years; how long could you survive without doctors, clerks, engineers, hunters, farmers etc. Kind of a shame that the zombies didn’t show up when I was in my twenties because these days I am old and far more reliant on luxurious facets of life 😂

[@_CoachW]

I'm with you on this. It hit me one day at a job. When I was young, the computers went down and we just pulled out the old carbon copy papers, etc. A few years back the computers went down.... we had no clue what to do. We had digitized everything. We could no longer operate our business without technology.

[@kellyrobinson1780]

@@_CoachW It's a two-edged sword, innit? Cuts both ways.

[@huldu]

We humans are here today so it's clear we know how to survive but a lot of that knowledge isn't taught these days and for good reason, we don't need it. At the end of the day we're still the same people and some of us will go quite the length to get what we need in such a dire situation. As for the luxuries of life, if you don't have them to begin with then you won't miss them when they're gone, but also it's something you'll quickly realize that you don't need to be "happy".

[@happyspaceinvader508]

@@hulduHumans are a mere blip in the timeline of life on this planet. The fact we still exist right now means nothing.

[@sasanach8]

@@huldu might not be taught but believe me im sure that 90% of people will work it out yes they will go hungry and deaths will happen faster lack of proper medicines etc but overall people will work out how to find hunt get food and survive hunger makes for a great teacher

[@Highlyskeptical]

Well, I guess I would whip out my "Civilization Restart Kit" and get crackin' CRK Outline; 2 Rain Ponchos (Doubles as shelter, funnel for rainwater) 2 Mylar Blankets (Doubles as poncho) 2 Black Bags for leaf litter mattress (Doubles as poncho, rainwater holder, winter shoe protect) 1 Ferro Rod 1 Lighter 2 pack Matches 1 Fresnel lens (4 methods to start fire) 1 Camp Saw (wood, could build house with) 1 Multitool (Saw and Knife for wood) 1 Emergency Radio (Pre-tuned to NPR, recharge Iphone, etc w/ renewable energy, 3 AAAs) 1 LifeStraw (Drink any water)/ 1 small bottle of bleach (2 drops/gal water for disinfectant) 1 Collapsible Canteen (or rigid) 1 Compass/Whistle 1 White Light/ 1 Red tactical Light 1 Sheet Al foil (cooking, make bowl, many uses) 20 Ft Paracord (traps, shelter, tourniquets, rappelling) 1 Tanto neck knife (quick access weapon, secondary knife in multitool) 1 Tear Gas spray (double on bracelet) 4 Bandaids/ Roll of TP/ Roll of tape/ razor (wounds, 3rd blade) 4 Pair plastic gloves (can be packed with leaves for winter) 8 Tie downs 1 16 ounce jar of peanut butter (2 days food, trap bait) 1 Rat trap (catch squirrels) 1 fish hook/ needle/ fishing line (also surgery, sewing clothes) 1 Bag of Pinto Beans/Wheat/Corn/Broccoli Seeds (for farm cal/ AA/ vit/min) 1 Instruction sheet on how to survive SHTF w/ CRK. What kind of things could happen? (disease/nukes/EMP/volcano/climate/etc) How do I know when to bug out, and where? What else should I take if I can? What should I do in the 1st day? What should I do in the 1st month? What should I do in the 1st year? What should I do for the rest of my life to restart civilization? FOOD What Cal/AA/Vit and Minerals do I need, and have? What plants can I eat? (birch sap, dandelion, purslane, lamb's quarters, etc.) How do I trap small game and fish?(Windlass/Deadfall/Snare/Fish funnel) How do I prepare food so I don’t get a disease? How can I store food long term? Use furs for clothes? How do I build a sustainable farm for a community? WATER What water can I drink? How do I store water? How do I create a water treatment plant? SHELTER How do I build a survival shelter? How do I build a siberian log fire? Permanent campsite? How do I build a (adobe/ log/ peat) house? MEDICAL How do I deal with cuts small and large? How can I set a broken bone or apply a tourniquet? How do I deal with infection? How can I treat other diseases and problems? How do I make a field hospital? PROTECTION How can I make a flint knife, spear, PVC bow How can I use a flint knife, spear, PVC bow? (animals vs marauders) How can I travel safely? (Don’t follow roads, or just dirt roads, use compass) How do I make a camp warning system with shifts and traps? (nail trap, tripwire, codes, patrols and ambushes) How do I organize and lead an army? ENERGY and TRANSPORTATION How is chemical energy used to survive, and where do I find it/ make it now? (distill alcohol, birch, wood) How to find and purify metals, make simple machines from die/casts, how to make complex machines How is electricity made, stored and used (batteries, potential energy dams, transformers)? How do I condition/breed a horse? make wagons? How do I use a bike, E trike? How do I build/ use a ship/ starship? How do I build a road/ railway? CIVILIZATION I’m the leader, why a liberal democracy? Why have laws everyone must follow? Why 3 branches of gov’t and a Constitution? Why do we need a Bill of Rights, what are they? Why do we need FDR’s 2nd Bill of Rights? (Needs vs Wants) What are the pros and cons of capitalism? Why is there separation of church and state? (confirmation bias leads to anything) What can be improved upon with democracy that may have led to SHTF? Why do we need institutions like education and police? Where is the knowledge? What components of culture should be preserved to create cohesiveness? (Writers/Games/Art/Holidays/etc) What needs to be done to restart civilization in the local area around me? (mil bases, city ruins, marauder gangs, Use inclusion, reason, empathy, transparency and oversight to group up the many isolated survivors to recreate a rule utilitarian society modeled after the US) What needs to be done to restart civilization in the world? What needs to be done to start civilization in the galaxy? What needs to be done to start civilization in the multiverse?

[@dumaskhan]

George carlin had a bit on this very subject. Not zombies, but the mere fact of the collapse of the electricity infrastructure due to the collapse of society and the mechanisms that sustain it.

[@vincelorino4394]

my grandmother survived the great depression. my mom and i have spent our lives LOVING post-apocalypse movies. we garden and i'm a "survivalist" fan.

[@cmdeezy1]

500 cool points for the key and peele reference 😂

[@frankcastellanos]

Awesome when you guys get together, i learn a lot and i have a blast of time, thank you.

[@Vynzent]

Accounting for a basic slow shambling zombie is enough of a stretch as it is, but yeah they wouldn't really pose much of a threat themselves if you make it past the first days where everyone was way too close to one another. I guess the best hope for avoiding problems with outsider groups of people would be to have a remote little settlement and have access to clean running water.

[@teresaalbin-davis4529]

Exactly why I acquired a remote cabin with 4 springs, now stocked and armed... and I'm an old lady, lol

[@korstmahler]

It's adorable that NDH is just getting into zombie horror. Yes, we're aware of what you bring up - Logistical breakdown is part of the true horror of the situation.

[@TheOverproof151]

Listening to a couple of friends talking about apocalypse planning. Friend 1, bragged about how he was fully stocked with all the food supplies, gensets, lighting, solar panels communication equipment etc. Friend 2 said he had just invested in multiple firearms and crates of ammunition..... and now knew where he could stock up on everything else when the apocalypse started. 🤣👍

[@StephGV2]

It strikes me as weird that most people think in the Zombie Apocalypse, that they won't be zombies. In the Zombie Apocalypse, the vast majority of people with skills are zombies and the survivors tend to be people who barely possess any survival skills at all.

[@MrTruehoustonian]

You watch to much TV no one knows what to do if this fictional zombies attacks

[@nickt463]

​@@MrTruehoustonianwhat better place to get fictional advice for a fictional event than a fictional TV show that show fictional people surviving said fictional event?

[@kendallstark4302]

Dr. Tyson, those were my exact words while watching an episode of The Walking Dead (second or third season): zombies are the least of your problems. You have suggested an excellent question we should all ponder.

[@theduder2617]

What would you call a physical body which walks around, eats, has zero shame or empathy for their actions, but is incapable of making any decisions for itself and only ever causes destruction? A zombie is a very good guess. I say it is a physical body which does all the above, while also blindly worshiping a doomed false prophet. There are already zombies among us. They just aren't into brains all that much. (A fitting Return of the Living Dead reference)

[@kamal92606]

U are correct more Dengeros than zombies

[@MrJefferson07]

Is that Islam?

[@kristingallo2158]

A liberal

[@antoniobragancamartins3165]

While Neil to take the life smiling he will live forever! It's very nice to see someone with all that knowledge keeping a sense of humor above all!

[@leofloyd]

Take advantage of the Prisoner’s Dilemma theory that might save your life because in a apocalypse scenario it kicks in real hard. People are just 1 crisis away from becoming savages.

[@BlueBerryDM]

That shot of a rack of toilet paper in costco being openned and ppl mobbing on it was like watch zombies haha😅

[@Cronniss]

If the zombie apocalypse were to hit, I’d be heading down to the cemetery with a shovel to play the greatest game of Whack-A-Mole ever.

[@J040PL7]

No way a dead corpse makes it out of a coffin, and then 7 feet of dirt, and then cement 😂

[@jonathanroberts4893]

@@J040PL7yeah 10 toes up 20’ down facing the west like a good Christian.

[@johnsullivan6560]

Very good points! Clean water, shelter, food, protection. How to get clean water? How to stay warm and dry? How to get enough food? How to keep what you have from other people that want your stuff?

[@darthsideous1968]

The MINUTE Dr Neil deGrasse Tyson said "ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE" Chuck wanted to GET OFF that ride in LESS than a second lol! 😆

[@VistaViews]

11:22 i rather enjoyed myself during lockdown except the toilet paper shortage. I love being alone or with only my closest friends/family. But i get you. In reality I would reserve the use of my gun for the human threat, not the zombies. Ive heard people talk about never preparing for emergencies, they would take what they need from others. Those are ABSOLUTELY the people you should worry about.

[@happyspaceinvader508]

Same, but lockdown was a very very short time indeed, and then a vaccine was developed. If the zombie apocalypse was a fungal infection (like cordyceps) rather than viral or bacterial… well then there’s never going to be a vaccine. Perpetual lockdown for the rest of existence while all your home comforts and basic needs are gradually stripped away? Not so much fun.

[@lamontwatson6967]

I thought neil was gonna say something about food being so scarce that we start eating each other. I think that would've been a topic closer to a zombie apocalypse than what they discussed

[@CanItAlready]

On the walking dead the main characters encountered another group of survivors that did just that.

[@firefly9838]

@@CanItAlready pretty good idea really. Tasty.

[@BlazRa]

A houseboat type situation would be a good way to survive because zombies probably can't swim

[@setelliott9683]

My favorite zombies were in Heavy Metal (both the airplane one and the Pterodactyl rider one), and the Black Cauldron, because none of them were virus trope Zombies. 😮

[@cashbaby1988]

Oh this conversation is my small talk. Love hearing everyone's ideas

[@abstract5249]

I think about this a lot. Not about the zombie apocalypse, but about the fact that each and every single one of us depends on other humans to survive. For example, some people attribute the lack of technology on Sentinel Island on the people's inability to innovate. But the real reason is because the Sentinelese are isolated from the rest of the world, so they aren't absorbing the technology and scientific knowledge we have to offer. If you took a Sentinelese baby and raised them in a developed country, they would be doing everything we do: read, write, drive cars, use smartphones, take medication, do formal mathematics. The average person in a developed country isn't advanced. I'm not personally responsible for inventing the lightbulb, the computer, or the very alphabet in which I'm typing. I simply inherited these technologies because I was born into a society which uses them. The same is said for most of us. 99% of all humans aren't advanced enough to survive on our own. We need each other to survive and thrive.

[@noelcruz2891]

Yet, in the grand scheme of things, these isolated tribes (with their near-intact survival instincts) would fare really well in an apocalyptic scenario

[@abstract5249]

@@noelcruz2891 Good point. In that sense, the average Sentinelese person is more capable of surviving on their own than the average person from a developed country. However, I wouldn't attribute this to survival instincts. Humans don't have an instinct to create bows and arrows, clothes, or jewelry. All people, including the Sentinelese, have to be taught how to create these things.

[@noelcruz2891]

@@abstract5249 yes, and that is why I qualified my statement as near-intact.. it might relate to having the natural propensity to attack, defend or retreat given their environment.. unlike most of us who have somewhat relaxed instincts since we are in a different situation

[@abstract5249]

@@noelcruz2891 I see what you mean. I just find it interesting that even something as simple and conservative as the bow and arrow doesn't come from instinct. There are cases of feral children in the world, children stranded alone in the wilderness, yet none of them instinctively developed the bow and arrow. But yeah, I see what you mean. Societies like the Sentinelese tap more into natural behaviors related to survival than we do because our institutions, which we've inherited, place greater restrictions on our natural survival behaviors.

[@wardmicko1251]

What Tyson is saying is that a Zombie Apocalypse is, first and foremost, an Apocalypse. I grew up in an era when movie apocalypses were either nuclear or later, environmental: the breakdown of society was always the common theme. Ultimately, it always came down to where you were gonna get your food or lifesaving medical care or something. The only thing different about a Zombie Apocalypse is that it's so lurid is that it takes a long-running series for it to finally become a major part of the story. More to the point, though, is something I've been thinking myself: the Pandemic was a low-grade Apocalypse. Millions did die, after all. Supply chains broke down, the Infodenic is something we're still dealing with, as well as the lingering trauma. Some us us were hurt more than others. It hurt more, I think, because with the end of the Cold War, we stopped believing it was actually possible.

[@insanetankeryanker5107]

You need to watch "The return of the night of the living dead" the undead were actually just like living people but the only thing that could release them from the unbearable pain was living brains. Good flick.

[@Zachary3DPrints]

Who would think that StarTalk was talking about Zombies... I didn't see that one coming! But good food for thought

[@user-oj9jr9fk5i]

The only time buying toilet paper would make sense is if there was a cholera pandamic😂

[@fireblast133]

Funniest bit of that key and peele skit was the family of zombies. Daughter starts trying to grab them and the parents grab the kid and pull her away

[@cassafrasscubby460]

Resident Evil was far better than any of the movies/shows mentioned for overall scare factor zombies and plot. Society breakdown is what I've been trying to explain to a certain political faction that thinks they'll survive without the rest of us.

[@noelcruz2891]

I agree. One of the prime points I agree upon Resident Evil is the inclusion of mutation.. cross-contamination of zombie-infected blood and flesh among species is actually a novel yet plausible way to reflect the unknown effects wherein natural behavioral characteristics are amplified

[@happyspaceinvader508]

@@noelcruz2891Exactly… viruses are better survivors than any human. When human hosts run out, it will evolve to infect other living things in the food chain.

[@reasonerenlightened2456]

WE ALREADY LIVE IN A REAL ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, because from the perspective of the individual most people are zombies. Why? Because, the people see the individual as a resource to extract some benefit from like profit or labour, etc. Zombies see humans as food LIKE humans see humans as a resource to exploit. It is the same thing. Every economic textbook talks about the households providing labour to the firms and the firms providing goods to the households. IF THAT IS NOT ZOMBIFICATION OF THE HUMANS then what is. A human is indivisible from his labour, therefore providing labour means providing humans.

[@VNavale]

5:42 Chuck : Toilet paper is not the number one priority, correction Chuck, it's the number two priority😂

[@noahgreenhouse9913]

Neil is the only one I'd listen to in a zombie apocalypse.

[@rssvss]

😅 as long as someone tells him what to do , you might make it.

[@morbidmanmusic]

Well, RIP then friend.

[@noelcruz2891]

Yeah, neil.. if he is around..if not, i'd look around for a redneck lumberjack or a navy seal

[@LordBLB]

Watching a Whitetail Deer with Chronic Wasting Disease, makes me wonder if a Zombie Apocalypse could be a real thing one day.

[@oliviajimenezdean1980]

Fight the dead. Fear the living.

[@jeremyc4893]

@1:10 "I have doubted you in the past and it has worked out." That says a lot and all we need to know about Mr. Tyson. js. imo.

[@flynngames4703]

if Neil does a reaction video of World War Z, I will definitely watch!

[@wingsolution]

There’s a very good hard science fiction book series called “Black tide rising” that has a rabies based ‘zombie apocalypse’ that is a very good read. The first book is called “Under a graveyard sky” by John Ringo. The answer to a zombie apocalypse, is to be on a boat, like the song.

[@ashtonstout7375]

Thanks. I’m going to look these book up on my library’s website.

[@RelakS__]

Even though every machine needs constant maintenance, consumable and spare parts, they still work even after years of an apocalipse. Instead I think we would be back in the middle ages in a couple of years.

[@josephtrowbridge1707]

The company I work for was recently hacked and it caused some production to shut down completely because of the level of their automation (high) compared to other departments where they continued to operate %100 with pen and paper method.

[@lunarminx]

I'm a Tuesday prepper. Covid had me buy a bidet attachment which I love so much, I bought portable squeeze bottle bidet. Saves greatly on toilet paper and you can use cloth to dry with and wash, sterilize and reuse.

[@daiakunin]

My first move would be to track down zombie Chuck Nice so I could die from laughter. Zombie Chuck still kills it on stage.

[@ForestRainMedia]

Awesome conversation! (Also, LA Police Gear has fantastic products. Love their pants and boots!)

[@tiredofthebs9]

Can anyone explain to me why anyone would want to survive after an apocalyptic event? I'm very used to living in a civilized society where I can get food from a grocery store and watch KZbin. If my days will be spent surviving and fighting, I don't want that.

[@morbidmanmusic]

You may find you love it.

[@sage12389]

Niel laugh is contagious 😂

[@jenniferodonnell2394]

I have so much faith in humanity. I would sit on my roof cheering on the zombies 🧟‍♂️.

[@kristingallo2158]

With a beer 🤣

[@benji4402]

There's a space for Neill Degrassi in every safe house in the whole world.

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

It should be talked about more. In my part of the country, hurricanes are common. Being without electricity, infrastructure, and emergency services for days or weeks at a time is sometimes a reality.

[@ChillinInTheWoods]

Plot twist the zombie apocalypse has already started… have you seen social media lately

[@Feather_Shovel]

If the population were quickly reduced by more than half, there would be an over abundance of supplies. Difficult to access but clearly a surplus.

[@spoon2537]

A surplus for like 2 months. It’s insane how much food we really eat and how quickly it will spoil without refrigeration

[@chrisegnoto]

I did just fine during the pandemic. Already had enough of what is needed because I know all it takes is one hiccup for society to be in dire need. That and teaching survival, preparedness and bushcraft, helps. Autism and PTSD has an upside...once in a while :/

[@berg450]

Zombie movies are always disappointing because the spread is always instant, it just happens and the next night everyone is in a post-Zombie society building forts out of scrap metal and trying to come up with cool names for themselves or getting bit in places that are easy to hide. COVID opened my eyes, although my eyes were already on the conspiracy theorists and I knew any major event would become apart of their lore, but if there ever was zombies it would take years, people would deny it, people would blame it on the things they blame everything on, people would use it as an excuse but modern weapons would make it easy to deal with, people would act empathetically it wouldn’t be every man for himself. The people doing the greatest harm in such a situation would be the people looking to use it as an excuse

[@timothyoestreichii1553]

If aliens looked at us as the smartest animals on earth they wouldn't study cows. 😂😂😂

[@thomasedin764]

I think 28 dates later is the most plausible zombie movie, people don't die but they get more violent.

[@miggymiggz7963]

I listen to alot of Neil's videos and interviews. This has to be my favorite of his conversations.

[@AlexTheStampede]

This is the one thing that annoys me about Mad Max: V8 monstrosity with more aero drag than a parachute, or a small efficient car? Speaking of, sometimes (eh, any time I make the mistake of seeing the news really) I think about the apocalypse, and my ideal scenario would be a personnel carrier MRAP, adapted to motorhome. It would be electric with solar panels on top, even if it takes days to charge it would still be very valuable. Hydroponics would help with food.

[@freakygoblin3068]

Day of the Triffids by John Wnydham 1951. Majority of people going blind along with walking deadly plants. 1981 BBC series was, I think the most accurate to the book. As far as I know it predates the zombie stories.

[@infin8ee]

Terrified me as a kid when we read it in school. Great book.

[@PeterGant-mt8hx]

When you see THRILLER Zombies, how do they eat possibly ANYONE, if they listen to requests for encores!? As soon as they start the next set, "BAM, I'M GONE!"

[@gavhoffdrums3129]

Makes a good point, we should all ideally know how to survive, but even so it will always be survival of the fitest

[@joshuawalsh8688]

I mean people zombies you should probably fear both in such a situation, although the hundreds of nuclear power plants unattended for what would be indefinite periods of time should also warrant consideration...

[@scurvofpcp]

On the topic of basic prepping, buy some MREs, keep your pantry stocked with canned and dried goods and 10 gallons of water in jugs and you are off to a pretty nice start. Add in a portable propane stove and you are pretty much golden for a while.

[@REDFUNDUH]

The reason why it’s taken lightly is the nature of its transmission in the movies. Getting bitten by a slow walking Z doesn’t pose much threat as opposed to airborne transmission

[@robertdeland3390]

I have thought a lot about the fragility of our technological society. I live in a suburb of los Angeles. For example long term loss of electricity would lead to mass starvation. I would not survive. Primitive people, in the Amazon, for example would be ok. I'm an old guy, I've though about this since I was young. Companies these days depend on the internet, not rooms full of typists and accountant assiatants. Engineering departments no longer use drafting boards. Internet loss, even if we have electricity, could cause economic collapse...... There are many other scenarios i could list.

[@isatousarr7044]

The concept of a zombie apocalypse, while often seen as purely fictional, raises important questions about public health, emergency preparedness, and societal resilience. Examining zombie apocalypses through a scientific and strategic lens can help us better understand how to prepare for real-world scenarios such as pandemics, biohazards, or other large-scale emergencies. By exploring these fictional scenarios, we can test and improve our response strategies and enhance our readiness for unexpected crises. How can analyzing fictional scenarios like zombie apocalypses help us develop more effective strategies for handling real-world emergencies, and what lessons can we learn about public health preparedness and societal resilience from these speculative scenarios?

[@1a1u0g9t4s2u]

A technical read on this subject is 'The World Without Us' by Alan Weisman. Surprised Neil did not mention or reference his thoughts about why vampires cannot thrive. Thanks for sharing.

[@zero11010]

World War Z was an AMAZING book. The movie had virtually nothing to do with the book whatsoever. It used the name and it had two minor story elements that were similar. The book is amazing. The audio book is even very good!

[@fredtuturo1793]

actually it's the same with " i am a legend " movie totally different from the book

[@chrsjeffcoat]

Great topic🎉😊

[@90FirstGenPGT]

My buddy in early 2000s bought the zombie survival guide, a book. Wonder if the info is still relevant today.

[@Creativebettyart180]

Neil is a genius with a great sense of humor. It's so easy to make him laugh. It brightens my day

[@stan4d1969]

Every prepper knows the event is not the problem. People are the problem.

[@vickiamundsen2933]

"how much of my survival depends on other people's efforts?" I'm not kidding myself. Nearly all of it. Strong men have been brought to their knees by a tooth abscess. Then there's kidney stones. Need I go on?

[@FezMooseLive]

I dont have a bunker, but if Chuck and Neil are still around when I have one ill gladly invite them.

[@SpaceGhost8300]

Neil what’s up Buddy, we saw you at the Cosmic Perspective talk in Greensboro! Loved it, Rock on!