Why were 38 Players Drafted BEFORE Jason Robertson?

This video discuses why 38 Players were drafted in 2017 before Jason Robertson and where they have gone in their NHL Careers. Watch until the end for some awesome discussion topics.
#NHL #JasonRobertson #DallasStars

[@ericespinoza7789]

To draft Miro/ Robertson and Otter all In the same draft is legendary

[@peterv2873]

How is Elias Pettersson not a superstar? He's a true two-way center and top 20 in scoring. He's a complete player. There are arguably only 10 centers better than him in the NHL at the moment.

[@weejugg5790]

One of them is nico lmao

[@ggitslificious]

@@weejugg5790 okay but nico went before elias, so whatever

[@ryanburton8695]

the fact Petey and nico are in the same sentence is crazy

[@Jackthgun]

@@ryanburton8695 Nico 99 G 154 A 253 P Pettersson 122 G 163 A 285 P Pettersson has played 55 fewer games . Pettersson is also in the Selkie conversation playing a team with terrible deference and leads the league in 5v5 points per 60 ..... I can't see Nico before Pettersson.

[@iansze2652]

@@weejugg5790 No forwards in this draft were better than Petersson....he is arguable the 2nd best player in this draft with the year he's having and how much there is left to project

[@christianoliveira60]

As a Dallas fan, all I can say is it's incredible what they were able to pull off that year and what has happened with those three players. They luckied into the lotto pick and arguably got the best player of the top 3 picks, then traded UP to get Otter and ended the round by getting Robo. The circumstances have just been perfect for all of their development, too. Robo got to bust into the league and play with a vet like Pavelski who just thinks the game so brilliantly, as well as Roope Hintz who is really the team's best all-around forward. Robo has that killer instinct and more than pulls his weight on that line now, but he came into his own a lot quicker than expected and those guys are a big part of why. Miro has just been quietly brilliant and had great defensive coaching in Rick Bowness right from the onset of his career, and Oettinger was able to have full control of the net a lot earlier than anticipated thanks to injuries to Bishop and Khudobin. Just crazy how the circumstances worked out in that draft and for each of those players.

[@Rino37]

Avs fan here thankful Dallas didn’t draft Makar.

[@ghostx2794]

@@Rino37 If the Stars chose Makar I don’t think he would be as good as he is now with the defensive coaching Dallas has had for years. Miro is a better fit for Dallas than Makar would have been imo

[@Rino37]

@@ghostx2794 you don’t know how good Makar is IMO

[@christianoliveira60]

​@@Rino37 Pretty crazy to think what if each team had drafted the other player in terms of Miro/Makar. Both top d-men in the league and brilliant skaters but with diverging skillsets (Makar's offensive creativity, Miro's killer defense). I'm happy Dallas went with Miro as well but there's no denying Makar is one of the best ever to play the position.

[@Rino37]

@@christianoliveira60 take a look at Maker’s defensive stats. Many people make the mistake of thinking he’s just an offensive d man.

[@Spittin_Chiglets]

Joe Pavelski has A LOT to do with the emergence of Robertson. If you know hockey it is obvious. They play so well together. Some players are or become natural goal scorers ..... it seems Robertson has developed into one. Robertson is an exciting player to watch.

[@michaelamcgill2]

As a person who’s watched Jason Robertson, he is incredible! I’m a bruins fan but sometimes I watch the Stars and I’m amazed by how good Robo is 🔥🔥

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

The biggest miss that draft year was the 3 teams before the Avalanche that passed up Cale Makar!!!

[@tdfmtig]

Nah Miro and Hischer are really good

[@jasonandros9395]

I wonder how he would be if Colorado had grabbed him??

[@OneNationUnderGod.]

@@jasonandros9395 he's a perfect fit with the Avs fast forwards, put him on a slower/older team and one of his biggest advantages is lost.

[@tcut95]

This argument again 😂 As a Dallas fan, I feel like outside Philadelphia and Nolan Patrick's unfortunate lingering head injury issues - the top 4 picks/teams all got exactly the kind of player they were looking for in the draft. Hischier hasn't (to my limited knowledge) had the breakout that players like Makar or Heiskanen had/have but he's still a very solid forward for NJ. Dallas needed a player like Miro at the time to help lock down defensive issues and while he doesn't have quite the same level of offensive upside as Makar, Dallas still had Klinger at the time so that base was effectively covered.

[@shreksswamp1182]

As a Vancouver fan I’m more than happy with my pettersson. Easily the best 200 foot player in the draft

[@andrewholland7712]

agree 100%

[@Berubium]

I’m a Canucks fan & would also take Pettersson over Robertson, but he was still available when we drafted Lind. We missed out big time there.

[@shreksswamp1182]

@@Berubium so did every team in the league tho

[@Berubium]

@@shreksswamp1182 of course. Hindsight is 20/20.

[@jasonkh4]

You mean the Canucks could’ve had Pettersson AND Robertson?? Good lord, can you imagine? Edit: I just realized that Dallas got Oettinger and Robertson in the first two rounds, talk about top shelf drafting

[@alu.304]

As a Colorado Avalanche Fan, I feel pretty good about Makar as our 1st Round pick in the 17 Draft🤣🤣💪🏻

[@creasecrasher]

I would hope so! He's only the best defenseman in the league today!

[@arturayzenberg5432]

We were so close to picking Makar and Robertson in the same year. Just imagine a line of Rantanen-MacKinnon-Robertson. If only

[@jacksonfield3461]

i think chytil is an above average nhl player especially with his current breakout year. quality video though!

[@creasecrasher]

Love the opinion! I was hesitant to put him below but I think he is trending upward too

[@WestonNYR]

100% agreed. Don't know why he was placed below lol

[@michaelcarvalheiro7930]

@@creasecrasher no you’re blind he’s literaly better than every player you Put on the nhl player list

[@gamedayhockey]

Nice video, good editing

[@darthbman8035]

How is Pettersson not in the Superstar category my guy 💀

[@stephentyler4352]

Dallas is a great landing spot for Robertson. I believe that part of the reason he is thriving is because of the team he plays for. I saw him playing junior with the Kingston Frontenacs on multiple occasions. I honestly was one of the people who was very surprised to see him doing so well in the NHL. It’s not as if he was a bad hockey player but like you mentioned his skating abilities were not great. However I am very happy to see him doing so well in the big leagues. I wish him all the best in his career.

[@evanlion700]

Good vid thought you’d have more subs

[@OhhFrikshunz]

Ngl just realizing that Detroit took Gustav Lindstrom (hindsight I know) one pick before Jason Robertson is lul worthy. What a player Dallas has, elite talent

[@vivid_prizm]

It hurts so bad as a wings fan. Even when Zadina fell to 6th he busted. Our luck with the draft has been awful since our rebuild started, outside picking Seider early

[@OhhFrikshunz]

@@vivid_prizm I'd say we're doing quite well despite the lack of lottery and top 5 picks. Raymond will turn out excellent at 4th overall. Edvinsson is 6'6 and has potential to surpass Mo even, at 6th overall. Kasper, Danielson, Wallinder, Mazur, Sandin-Pellikka all may not have superstar potential but there's certainly foundation for a big fast and strong team with other potential booms in Lombardi and Buchelnikov. Very nice goalie prospects too. Future's looking optimistic for once and I think this team will surprise a lot of people within 5 years as this summer solidified the beginning of the exit of the rebuild

[@devynlich00]

It's honestly amazing at the fact of all three of the players that we got during that draft are big contributors now of the team

[@Mulukkis]

Oh boy this is painfull for Vegas. 4 PICKS 🤣And sending the one good pick to Montreal.

[@Supernova2464]

I think the reason is because the best part of his game is his incredible intelligence on the ice, which is not easily scooted as I imagine it does translate very often, couple that with the game getting faster and Robertson isn’t the fastest, Robo had a high likelihood of busting, but whether it because he’s just that good or he because of the many people that help players behind the scenes hired by Dallas, he has blossomed into a superstar, evidently this year marks his first all-star game. Hopefully, not his last.

[@mercywilliams2698]

Robertson has been and continues to be outstanding. As someone who organized Power Skating clinics..Robby Glantz International..in the 90’s..I have noticed that Robertson is not a power skater ..he is somewhat unorthodox in an era where most players coming into the league exhibit exceptional speed and power..maximizing their edging skills. Perhaps Robertson’s skating skills were less impressive to scouts upon seeing him play. His game is unique to him with an almost casual striding..and a seemingly effortless style to place himself and or generate opportunistic situations shift to shift.

[@alleneng]

petterson is an absolute superstar on the same level as makar

[@Energetik_C]

He is not on the same level as makar lmao. R u slow?

[@skyhawk4946]

He is turning into a star player. If he continues with high production for the next 3-4 years then he is a superstar player.

[@tonterswayy4626]

3-4 years? Bro he’s a superstar rn, definitely by next year. If he puts up 40-50 goal seasons for 4 years and is just getting the tag then something is way wrong 😂

[@bjornalm9950]

Whats your definition of a superstar? Makar is in my opinion the only superstar in this draft, so far. Its way too early to say if Robertsson, Hiescher, Heiskanen or Pettersson will be a very good second best. And if Chytil who has scored 19 goals and 14 assists in 45 games is below average...its not a bad draft.

[@RiotnRespect]

I’m biased obviously, really good for Dallas that they found a gem… but I’m not losing sleep over the Devils selecting Hischier haha

[@Jackthgun]

Sorry but Pettersson is closer to the players on the Superstar list then the Players on the Top End NHLers list

[@richardallison652]

Pettersson is currently 7th in league scoring. Pretty sure that qualifies him as a star

[@Zodiak34]

Good video, the only thing id change is the fact that Robo only has 179 games played so far so although he projects as becoming a superstar, we never know that he wont slow down a little. And because of that, i feel like you don't give enough credit to others like Hischier, Pettersson and Thomas. Nico is getting close to having a point per game season, Thomas surpassed 1PPG last season and Petterssson can score 100, hes just had a bad season in an awful team. So i'd say NJ, COL, VAN and STL have nothing to regret. Other than that i agree

[@Berubium]

VAN has no regrets on Pettersson for sure, but given that Robertson was drafted as late as he was, that 2nd rounder (Lind) we took ahead of Pettersson sure looks bad now. Vancouver left Lind unprotected for the expansion draft, so if they did draft Robertson with that second round pick, they would still have to have been smart enough to protect him from the expansion draft.

[@johnshields6852]

You never know how they'll adapt to NHL, plus their so young some develop more than others, there's plenty of players that never get the chance to play, there's only so many spots to fill, there are players who might've blossomed into stars that never set foot on NHL ice, just like any sport.

[@chaserempel5086]

Not even gonna mention EP going 5

[@natedogg69193]

Flyers fan here - Hextall absolutely screwed us as a GM, but tbf Nolan Patrick was only a bust because of his tragic head injuries. He had a ton potential but never got time to develop because of his head injuries. Really sad. Also Morgan Frost is a couple years away from blowing up IMO.

[@creasecrasher]

Yeah I agree on both of those takes. I wish we had gotten to see Patrick's full potential :(

[@geckoman1011]

And Fletcher is no upgrade. He should have never been given another chance after what he did in Minnesota.

[@Slvrbuu]

Let's be honest, though. If Edmonton drafted him, we'd have screwed up his development. So it's probably good Dallas got him. That being said, he's the reason I've started watching Dallas, so maybe having him in Edmonton wouldn't be bad. :P

[@creasecrasher]

100% Oilers development is below average on prospects over the last decade

[@andreweva9278]

I dont know what your looking at but I don't think Chytil is below average he is doing good for the rangers.

[@thatonetrashkid5390]

Imagine Colorado with robertson

[@johnhendrickson1806]

Everything was really cool here but dude how can you call Philip Chytil below average. His numbers have been kickass. He’s been one of New York’s best offensive developers and that’s only with third line minutes

[@davidchodds]

Dallas also passed up on Robertson twice in this draft.

[@moonlightmelodrama]

Nice take. Keep them coming. Suggestion. Take a look at penalty shots vs 2 minute penalties. Have a feeling. But not confirmed. 2 minute penalties produce more goals.

[@biffdanielson2820]

I was mad when the Avs didn't get the #1pick, but we still got the best player 😁

[@mr.devil9577]

GMs were right to pass on him tbh his numbers just wasn't there. He's just one of those guys that got really good really fast like Tyce Thompson

[@baiqi44]

I heard he got his life altering advice (in terms of hockey) and worked on his game during off seasons. The talent has always been there for him, but it takes something special to bring it out in certain people. Horvat wasn't a speedster in juniors, but he worked on his skating and became a steal at 9th overall.

[@stinkfinger630]

I would pick Pettersson over Robertson every single time!

[@danyelkennedy9436]

Filip Chytl was major for the rangers

[@WestonNYR]

Wait... how is Filip Chytil below average? Even though he certainly isn't as good as Robertson, below average is just the dumbest part of the whole video. Below players like Liljegren and Hague? You sure? Other than that this was a great video!

[@BrodyCanuck]

Singling out the canucks when at least they got Pettersson in this draft lol

[@Jackthgun]

It hard to say Robertson > Pettersson for me but it could have been Robertson AND Pettersson it not about the or

[@HydrixTheory]

dallas i feel has a cup coming very soon in my opinion

[@jokurajunimi]

I mean I think that there are couple quite clearly bad placements on your list. I think it's pretty clear that Filip Chytil has developed into serviceable NHLer, while calling Cal Foote a bust seems extremely harsh

[@11DNA11]

Chytil below average? Dudes been on fire for a year now....

[@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004]

Imma say it in any bigger market he would of flopped but the fact he plays in Dallas a smaller market helps him thrive tremendously since nobody watching his every single move the peace of mind as a young player truly proves why players avoid playing in markets in Canada or bigger markets

[@tonterswayy4626]

3rd highest attendance and top 10 viewer ship in one of the biggest cities in the US. It’s funny how every Canadian thinks other teams are “small markets”. Their market is huge

[@niceISbriss]

@@tonterswayy4626 Why the fuck you lying? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Hockey_League_attendance_figures

[@marie2274]

Avs fans I'm sure is very happy with Cale Makar

[@donnygordon9618]

first nations baby

[@dakotaturner6701]

Bro filip chytil is actually a really good player and doesn't deserve to be in below average

[@steve8803]

Everybody is a genius in hindsight

[@mikeoxlong419]

Filip chytil is below avg ????

[@cytyzent]

The only claim you make against Colorado screwing up on this one, is that they had the first pick in R2 and picked Timmins. Who has...... well, yeah. Other than that, I don't think the Avs have any regret taking Makar, even with what Robertson is putting up. I think Makar is the player they needed at the right time, to fill what they needed most, and Robertson doesn't fit that anywhere near as much. Plus, as others have said, there is a chance that they don't develop him correctly. Nichushkin came from Dallas and was bought out of his contract to boot. Then comes to the Avs and just goes berserk in the Playoffs especially against Tampa. Every player is going to be unique in their situation, and Robertson may have just found where he needed to be to become what he has.

[@OutLivex]

To be fair Timmins is doing really well with the Leafs!

[@blehmeking8440]

Made two days ago but Chytil is “below average”? Pettersson isn’t a Superstar?

[@gildarts2949]

Love your vid, but some little mistake... pettersson is 100% superstars and valimaki / chytil / brannstrom are nhler 100%

[@tinyGiraffasaurus]

this video is basically just, “if people could see into the future, they would have picked this guy now”… i mean, i guess it sucks that people can’t see into the future lol literally every single player; past, present, and future; is 100% a gamble. you could have a kid that scores 10 points a game for his entire jr career, and when he finally makes it into the nhl, he could average 10 points a season for his entire nhl career. it’s also pretty pointless saying how dangerous a team would be if they had, “x, y, and z on their team now”, had they drafted those certain players instead. there are countless factors that go into how a player develops, so vegas getting robertson may have potentially stunted his growth as a player, and he could end up being a puljujarvi lol

[@emmanuelbrown8685]

Imagine if the devils drafted Robertson he might’ve been my favorite player instead of Hughes but I’m not sure

[@tamatb]

😂😂 Just wait for Stuart Skinner, our rookie NHL All-Star, to get a few years under his belt! Then we'll visit the 2017 draft again!

[@ignitefifahd8017]

I guarantee you if the Canucks were offered Pettersson for Robertson straight up they wouldn't take it. A healthy Pettersson has much more overall impact than Robertson, as Pettersson puts up similar offensive numbers and is much better defensively. Don't get me wrong Robertson is a fantastic player but I'd be willing to bet at least 2/3 of NHL GMs would rather build around Pettersson

[@creasecrasher]

I do agree with you Petrersson take. I meant more towards the Kole Lind pick

[@Jackthgun]

@@creasecrasher Yep thething with Pettersson is drop any reasonable good player on his wing and he is going to be great. Likely the best singlaur player Vancouver has had since Bure

[@jonosilverfox1215]

Naw i would keep the superstar center over the superstar winger every time, harder to find and develop, robo's a beast but im keeping petey, solid 2way center

[@chrispeters8555]

Maple leaf's didn't need another top six player that would ask for the brinks truck... I'm happy with Liljegren

[@leviderksen5711]

Simply put, Robertson is really good.. Petterson is better.

[@leethomas5830]

Jim nill caused that.

[@holkounholkoun6945]

Canes and Nucks are more than pretty ok with their picks

[@hagoty8234]

Petey is a superstar tf

[@andrewholland7712]

he is 100%

[@tdfmtig]

He is this year but last 2 years he wasn’t

[@carsonmcconnell4561]

@@tdfmtig last year he was coming back from a wrist injury. He was a beast towards the end of last year though. His analytics have been top notch for quite awhile

[@leerfn8195]

@@tdfmtig he missed 75% of the season in 2021 lol you cant even say that

[@tdfmtig]

@@leerfn8195 right but this is the first time he’s been over a PPG

[@mika_prodzisgoated]

How is filip chytil in below average that’s crazy eh should be in nhl players aswell how is petterson only in top end

[@georgejohnson3654]

Draft hindsight is too easy. Tell us who's going to be the darkhorse THIS upcoming draft.😆

[@vernal2322]

Etanyos??

[@creasecrasher]

Yessir!

[@Rhyss.]

Norris is like a 40 goal scorer he isn’t top end?

[@Naskari_]

EElI TOLVANEN

[@jamescleanair5471]

Chytil is much better than half of players you put in NHL player category

[@creasecrasher]

Yes but he has a 0.4ppg average which is way below

[@jamescleanair5471]

​@@creasecrasher How do you explain Tippett, Rasmussen, Vilardi or Yamamoto being there?

[@creasecrasher]

@@jamescleanair5471 mainly NHL production. Are you a die-hard Rangers fan?

[@jamescleanair5471]

@@creasecrasher Not really. But I consider myself diehard Chytil fan. But I am used to him getting 0 respect. Guys I mentioned here have literally played less games and got less points. Maybe they got better average. Of course they got. They started playing in the NHL when they were like 21. Chytil started when he was 19 (which supports my theory that he is actually better than any other player I mentioned) Chytil has 29 points in 41 games playing on a 3rd lane. That's impressive if you ask me.

[@creasecrasher]

@@jamescleanair5471 I do agree with you that I underrated chytil, I have enjoyed watching his career path with NYR

[@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004]

Do we watch the same hockey all those Dallas players aren't superstars.

[@tonterswayy4626]

Do we? Because they definitely are, all 3 are the reason for their success and are underrated. Don’t act like you watch the stars then say something that stupid lol

[@tdfmtig]

Depends on your definition of super star but all of those guys are top 10 in the league in their position but maybe that’s just all star not superstar

[@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004]

@@tonterswayy4626 don't act like you know anything about hockey cuz we both know you don't know anything about hockey yall too funny

[@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004]

@@tonterswayy4626 superstar means they fill up arenas on the road... which they don't

[@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004]

@Plain Box superstars are the ones who put butts in seats even on the road games. Which I don't see them doing ... I'm in montreal hockey's mecca and I don't see no Dallas stars jersey .. so imagine when they play on the road in other markets... McDavid Mathews Ovy Crosby those are names that ppl go out of their way to watch and pay to to watch when they come to their town. Not the same for the stars players.. is it a market thing? Maybe ... but superstars put butts in seats on the road

[@austinmacneil9947]

No im happy NJ took Nico

[@pdrnpdx]

As a Canucks fan I don't know about this...the Canucks could have easily ruined Robertson. Who's to say EP wouldn't be twice the player if he was in a quality program.

[@creasecrasher]

Fair assessment, Oilers would've ruined Robo too lol

[@pdrnpdx]

@@creasecrasher agreed. Imagine the disbelief you would have if you lived under a rock for 5 years and someone told you that Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid were on the same team, but never made it to the finals.

[@gobacktoiceland2103]

Lol you know this kid def from the East when doesn't put Elias on superstars

[@joshuaalbright1175]

Eh no thanks I’d take the future selke winner hischier

[@jermainerodgers]

I cant believe bruins pass on him. 🤦

[@therealmcromano319]

Robertson fell because Kingston was really bad when he was there so he didn’t post nearly as many points as his talent showed. Kingston only had one other 20 goal scorer in his draft year.

[@therealmcromano319]

Also seeing Lindstrom’s name one spot before Robertson is rough, I do still really like Gustav’s game though

[@scottyboy6269]

Odd...Pettersson is 6 points behind Robertson, 3 less games played and on one of the worst teams.... Chytil has 32 points in 43 games Wtf?

[@baiqi44]

Well now he's 3 points ahead of Robertson while playing 2 less games than him. This is why videos like these are made by completely bias fans of a particular team. These fans only care about their players and don't pay too much attention to other teams' players. They look at the stats at the time of other players and that's it. In terms of potential, non bias people can see that EP has more potential than Robertson (although Robertson is a great player and has a lot of potential). The video above was made when EP was trailing behind Robertson by 6 or more points 2 or 3 weeks ago. 2 or 3 weeks later, EP pulled ahead. To put 3 Dallas stars players in the superstars category and then completely snub EP while calling Chytil below average or average shows you how much the creator pays attention to other teams' players.

[@andrewholland7712]

Vancouver would still take Petterson over Robertson. Have you watched Petey? Top 4 Players are Makar then Petey Heiskenen and Robertson is number 4.

[@tdfmtig]

imo Miro and Robertson are over Elias. Robertson has more points and it’s tough to find a top 10 d man

[@andrewholland7712]

@@tdfmtig Petterson is better a 1c 200 foot center hes better than both. all great players its just our opiniins

[@Jackthgun]

@@andrewholland7712 Robertson players with a top centre and top centre makes his wingers look great .... Pettersson is that top centre who makes his wingers look great which is the big thing

[@baiqi44]

I think that's quite daring of you to say 99% would take Robertson over everyone, but Makar. Complete bias and made up percentage by you. Check the comments. EP is in the same category, perhaps even better than Robertson. Let's see what Robertson's numbers would be on a terrible Nucks team. I agree that Robertson might be the steal of the draft, but he's not necessarily even the 2nd best player in that draft. Also, EP is easily in the superstar category. Top 10 in scoring on a horrible Canucks team and is a great 2 way player. His teammates suck, but he doesn't.

[@ETERNAL_EDITS.]

makar better

[@donnygordon9618]

he is indian

[@ZacharyNahrgang]

no

[@v0LcaN_o___]

cal foote has won 2 cups with tampa on there 3rd d pairing