Why were Michael and Satan disputing over the body of Moses (Jude 9)? | GotQuestions.org

[@Baconator9k]

Who are we to reproach or cast out demons? Jesus didn’t command the angels to cast out demons, but He did to His disciples. He didn’t give His spirit to the angels, but He did His disciples. “For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself."”Acts‬ ‭2‬:‭39‬ and the promise is for EVERYONE to receive the Holy Spirit, the same Holy Spirit that raised Christ from the dead and worked miracles and casted out demons and healed the sick and prophesied. Who are we? Nobody in ourselves, but in the Holy Spirit we are clothed in Christ. And the demons flee in the name of Jesus, just as the Bible says they do.

[@JayaSavannah]

Exactly.

[@johnbay9553]

Amen and amen! A very important comment to this video!

[@MadebyKourmoulis]

I agree with your statement and suggest that same power frees us from sin in order that we might live as Jesus did. Keeping his commands.

[@sandratankersley8470]

Oh WOW!!! What a great message!!! Loved all the Bible references& have them written down now. Bless You!!!!! Maranatha ❤️🙏☝️

[@rockymntdan1]

Yeah I thought his "answer" was a watered down non-answer, void of Faith.

[@chikasichulu6909]

In His name He has given us power to cast out demons. Mark 16:17

[@ivanpenaloza2905]

“Who are we to cast out or command demons? “… The gospels and book of acts specifically teach that believers have the power to cast out demons.

[@justanotherbaptistjew5659]

It teaches that some did, but it doesn’t teach that all did.

[@lionheartmerrill1069]

That bothered me too when he said that. John 14:12 KJV

[@country-man]

I was surprised to hear that myself. Mark 16:17

[@JayaSavannah]

That was a super weird last statement in the video.

[@russellabbot820]

Yeah he was doing well up until the end. !!

[@gud9706]

"In Jesus name" and humbling ourselves before the father is the key. We are the righteousness of God. A human can't cast out demons by themselves, but Jesus in us is greater than He who is in the world, & by His authority, we can. Acts shows those who attempted to cast out without a relationship to the father, and those who cast out in Jesus name. Big difference!

[@thespectacular9826]

When you cast out demons by the authority of christ, you are the one doing it, not the authority. The authority doesn't do anything because it is on its own not an active thing. It is passive and you are the agent that carries out the action.

[@gud9706]

​@@thespectacular9826 We work on Jesus's authority. (Luke 10:19)Jesus does His ministry through us as we become one/abide with Him. It is not our power and authority but the power and authority of God working in us. I've cast out a demon in a vision before(I had no idea what was going on and God did all the work). I didn't even realize I was facing a demon. I heard myself quote Hebrews 11:1 to a reasoning, but incorrect voice. I heard the verse said in my own voice, but I knew the Holy Spirit had said it. Then the demon screamed, shook my physical surroundings, and left. Humbling ourselves before the Lord with prayer, fasting, worship, bible reading is imperative, so the things of man/pride don't hinder the Holy Spirits work. I pray that God would do His work in all of our lives with no hindrance. Thank God for His grace!

[@steveshelton3081]

I just want to apologize. I said some things on this video a while back that I regret now. They're hurtful. And i believe God put it on my heart to say this. I'm sorry brother.

[@jellyface401]

God bless

[@Dove_ee]

Love your accountability!

[@joey6818]

"Mark 16:17 - And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;" 4:30 It bothers me in the end where he seems to emphasize that we do not have the power to cast out demons, like he is demeaning mankind and discouraging the very act of casting out demons. Yes, we can cast out demons "in the name of the Lord".

[@timtherrien7843]

In spite of the fact that these verses are included in many translations, their authenticity is disputed and we should be careful about building a theology on them.

[@ivanantonio9980]

Amen! Yes we can. The enemy doesn’t want us to know about Deliverance and Christians are falling for it Sadly a lot of "Christians" are in his side denying the work that Jesus called us to do. They always say "Oh you should be careful with deliverance, you should be careful on building a theology on that" Get out of here with that noon sense You are literally exposing the kingdom of darkness in the physical realm. If you have eyes to see and hears to hear you’ll understand what I mean. The last one that is trying to be carful with making a "theology" of deliverance is satan himself. There is no need for us to make a theology about deliverance, Jesus already did.

[@IsaiahEli]

The season is now. Keep Faith. Jesus is coming soon!! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! I made this channel because I felt guilty for not witnessing enough, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!!

[@pagen5219]

ty

[@pagen5219]

we repent when we get JESUS AS SAVIOR AS HE PAID IT ALL,,,,,,repent daily is know JESUS DID IT AND ONLY HE COULD, ITS HIS STANDARD,,,,,,ALL FALL SHORT,;HENCE SIN,BY NOT ABLE TO KEEP HIS STANDARD,,,,,,ONES who tell ones turn from sin,,,,,,,DAILY, REPENT, TO BE JUST LIKE JESUS,,,,,,for right standing, INSULT JESUS AND STUMBLE OTHERS,,,,JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY,,,,,,,when we turnfor right standing, its saying JESUS WAS NOT ENOUGH, ITS HERESY,,,,I HAVE LEARNED THE WORD,,,,,,,,RIGHTLY DIVIDED AND IN PROPER CONTEX FOR REPROOF AND CORRECTION,,,,,,,JESUS DID IT, FILLED THE LAW AND DIRED IN OUR PLACE,,,,ONLY HE COULD, SO REPENT DAILY IS KNOW JESUS DID IT,,,,CUZ WE COULD NOT AND I HOPE THAT IS WHAT YOU MEANT, TY WE ARE TO BE GOOD,,,BUT ONLY HE IS GOOD,,SO WE GET HIS IDENITY,AND HIS RIHT,AS WE COULD NEVER BE RIGHT LIKE HIM,,,

[@ivanpenaloza2905]

Stick to the subject.

[@pagen5219]

@@ivanpenaloza2905 Child, And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; because he did fulfill all the law and has been lifted up, exalted, above all things in creation, I feel you are trying to harass me below and I am not sure why, if you are a saved believer.

[@pagen5219]

@@ivanpenaloza2905 because he did fulfill all the law and has been lifted up, exalted, above all things in creation. We ,saved in his name, with his spirit in us and his idenity, his righteousness given by him, as he is lifted up above all and the Sovreign God, and satan is a conquered demon leader,who must bow to JESUS NAME, as JESUS had him thrown out of heaven, out of the HOLY HOME, and will see him in the lake of fire,

[@jamiehenson6740]

I believe the reason the devil wanted Moses's bones was so the people could worship them because they were notorious for worshipping idols. Hezekiah even had to destroy the brazen serpent because people were worshipping it.

[@dsheppard8492]

and there would be some giant shrine to the venerated Moses that would be a mecca to the hapless believers, of which there ar sooo many.

[@soldtobediers]

Jamie Henson & D Sheppard ITISSO! Had me thinking that I was the only one who had that gut feeling the 1st time I read that passage!

[@dsheppard8492]

@@soldtobediers What passage are you referring to?

[@soldtobediers]

@@dsheppard8492 Question ain't really a question - if we both know the answer to too!

[@TheBahamian1]

This is a PERFECT example of why we need to study scripture for our self! Trust NO MAN's words! ONLY trust the word of Yah! Mark 16: 17-20 "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents, and if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will get well.” Hosea 4:6 " My people perish for lack of knowledge" Proverbs 11: 9 " through knowledge shall the just be delivered" Everyone, study the scriptures for yourself like the Bereans did. Let no man tell you lies! As a believer in king Jesus I know for a FACT that that I have authority via King Jesus name to cast out demons!

[@hippiebiker3399]

Mark 16:17 Isn’t the book of Acts enough? Isn’t it part of the Bible or is it no longer valid to you? If Acts is no longer valid then go ahead and rip it out of your Bible. And while you’re at it, you might as well tear other pages out you no longer think we need, also….

[@TheBahamian1]

@Pat Last beloved........there is one church, one gospel and one baptism! When The Messiah returns He is coming for that one church (His bride) that is without spot or wrinkle! Thus protestant, baptist, methodus, ie DENOMINATIONS is not what He is coming back for. He is coming for His one true church ( the bride). Which are those who are holy because Yah is holy and those who are DOERS of the word ( who believe in King Jesus). And according to His words, He gave His bride authority to cast out demons. Why, because demons tremble by the name of King Jesus and when they see Jesus in us ( believers) and the demons get very aggitated . Here is what I say to you. Pray about this. Ask the holy spirit to lead you and teach you all His truths as it pertains to casting out demons. Search the scriptures like the Bereans as it pertains to casting out demons. After doing all of that; then lets talk. May God bless you and keep you in King Jesus Christ name.

[@haroldcrevier305]

Thank you for your God given insight, that you are sharing. Resist the devil and he will flee , do not address the demonic entities, BUT, call upon the LORD for HIS Devine intervention.

[@ivanpenaloza2905]

No.

[@robtom8679]

@@ivanpenaloza2905 yea. Why wouldn’t you accept the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? What could it possibly do to you other than help you!

[@country-man]

That contradict the book of Mark 16:17

[@jmar8507]

@@country-man Yep, and Mark 6:7, Luke 9:1, Matthew 10:1, John 14:12, Acts 16:18...and so many others...

[@thecrafter6658]

Sooooo...you don't know. Got it. Nobody does. But it's still a super fascinating verse to me as it lets me know that we will not always have the answers, and that is okay. One day I will get to ask Jesus what this verse was talking about and that is something I greatly look forward to!

[@Gotchism4Life]

Here's my theory...only a theory...if Moses in one of the Two Witnesses from Rev. 11 and Satan knew it, he could be arguing against it.

[@thecrafter6658]

@@Gotchism4Life That's an interesting thought! Could very well be, but Satan knows that after they are killed, they will return to life again, so its seems like it would be counter intuitive to argue about it.

[@Gotchism4Life]

You deleted your reply...but to bring up Moses dying...gets resurrected...dies a second time as a witness an rises again...that's typically not supposed to happen...so maybe God did something to the body of Moses as Deuteronomy states that God personally took Moses' body and buried it...so maybe something happened that Satan wanted to argue about. Obviously, all conjecture, no proof, I would never teach it. I just know the Word doesn't tell us everything. The Word tells what we need to know about salvation and living in holiness.

[@deliberativedisciple]

The fact that a resurrected Moses was on the Mt. of Transfiguration with Christ and Elijah makes it quite clear that Satan had been arguing God could not raise Him from the dead. Obviously, he lost the argument.

[@rick_price]

@@deliberativedisciple I believe Moses represents the dead in Christ that are raptured...Elijah represents those that are are alive and remaining at the time of the rapture.They are both shadows and types of what is to come (rapture) Moses body was took up into heaven the same time as Elijah went into heaven in 2nd Kings chapter 2.This is when i believe the dispute took place. I also believe they were discussing the rapture on the Mt. of transfiguration. Makes sense to me

[@donniedale3522]

I believe when we leave this place, it will be as if a door to knowledge will be imparted to us. We will not have to ask questions because the understanding will be in us. Just one of the many things God can do.

[@ToOpen6seven]

9. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11.When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1 Corinthians 13:9-12 kjv

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

Amen pastor. Great message! I said many times when I haven't understood it passage and it felt like my faith was under attack. So, in the end what I decided to do allowed me to continue to be strong in my faith and be close to Jesus. I just continued to believe. I acknowledged that I didn't understand it and I prayed for God to help me and in the end he has always helped to understand. When things come in the bible that we don't understand, that isn't the time to give up and say no more. That's when we dig in and study to show ourselves approved. God bless 🙏

[@rockymntdan1]

Or simply believe and not question. Like Acts 2:37-38 ; just do it. There is nobody praying for salvation in the New Testament. Apostles never practiced a "sinner's prayer". Why practice it?

[@brianmatthews4323]

"'Study' to show thyself approved" isn't talking about studying the Bible, or anything else, for that matter. The world "study" has changed somewhat in meaning since the days the KJV was written. A contemporary word would be something like "endeavor"; "Endeavor to show that you're approved." That's not to say we don't need to study the Bible. We certainly do, and other scriptures say as much.

[@sleric3]

Jude did not come up with this account out of thin air and it could have been well known. At that time there was probably a feeling of uneasiness about it. Moses was one of the Prophets closest to God yet his body is taken by Satan and he was not even allowed into the promised land (wow!). After what Jude had seen and lived with Jesus, he realised that Jesus is the Messiah and felt relieved when he wrote that account (I presume).

[@metorphoric]

What makes this fascinating is that Moses is present with Elijah during the transfiguration. If you recall, Elijah was only 1 of 2 biblical figures to be taken into heave before death (Enoch being the first). Both, Elijah and Moses met with Jesus shortly before his crucifixion and all 3 men bodies could not be accounted for. Could there be a parallel here?

[@Jwarrior123]

Good observation. Moses was assumed into heaven. Bodily. That's why he and Elijah were present at the transfiguration. Undeniable. 🙏

[@Joel-Serra]

Moses and Elijah were not really on the mountain with Jesus, Peter, James and John, it was a vision, Christ himself tells us this, he has miracle working power and is able to manifest anything he wants at any time, that's why he's called "the Almighty" (Rev. 1:8) *Matthew 17:9 (KJV)* And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell *the vision* to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

[@metorphoric]

@@Joel-Serra I've heard this interpretation of the transfiguration. This could be a "vision" but I am not convinced. The word "vision" in Hebrew can mean sight or evidence. Matthew 17:2 states that Jesus was "transfigured before them" in the presence of Peter, James and John. Transfigured is a verb signifying an action or past action. Matthew 17:4 even tells us that the disciples are "seeing" the transfiguration as Peter suggest building separate tents for Jesus, Moses and Elijah. Peter goes as far to say that their presence of the event is "good". If this was just a vision, why would this be Peters response? Finally in verse 10, in response to Jesus forbidding them from sharing what they have just witnessed, they are confused as they believe they've just witnessed the second coming of Elijah. Why wouldn't they share this news of old testament prophesy? Jesus tells them that Elijah that was prophesied was John the Baptist. So I must disagree with the interpretation that the word "vision" in this context meaning a type of higher wisdom moment but rather, physically encounter.

[@Joel-Serra]

@@metorphoric the word "vision" in Matthew 17:9 in our English Bibles is the Greek word _horama_ which means a _supernatural_ sight or spectacle, something that is "seen" within our minds. *Acts 9:10* And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. The word "vision" in this verse is the same Greek word used in Matthew 17:9 (horama) Does this mean Ananias literally had a physical encounter with Christ? *Acts 10:3* He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. Once again, the word "vision" here is _horama_ in the Greek. does this mean Cornelius is having a physical encounter with an angel of God? these are divinely-inspired supernatural visions that these men are "seeing" within their hearts and within their minds. *John 12:45* He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me. Have you or I ever "seen" Christ or the Father? Of course not, we have never seen them with our physical eyes, but we believe and we have faith because we have "seen" them with our "spiritual" eyes. *Ephesians 1:18* The *eyes of your understanding* being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints. *John 20:29* Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those (you and me) who *have not seen* and yet have believed.”

[@metorphoric]

@@Joel-Serra I am not quite sure what you're arguing here. Whether or not biblical figurers had visions is not being disputed. Vision as described in the transfiguration wasn't a manifestation but an eye witness account of a spiritual metaphysical event .

[@CRaul87]

who are we to cast out demons!?? Followers of Jesus Christ! We do it in His name and not our own... What are we supposed to do? ignore a possessed person and not cast out the demons in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ???

[@country-man]

I was surprised to hear that myself and this is contrary to what is written in the book of Mark 16:17

[@jms7265]

Right

[@idowuoladeleabiodun6587]

For you are creating in the image and likeness of God, if you’re created in God’s image then you’re a God to which means you have dominion over everything created by God except God himself, that means you’ve the power to cast out satan, demons or whatever it may be..

[@johnfoy2527]

Amen

[@johnfoy2527]

In Jesus we only have power to cast out demons

[@KC9UDX]

For the first time ever, I was happy to see a KZbin ad at the beginning of a video. It was an ad for One For Israel.

[@gabrielhalston6726]

Very good! James 4:7 gives believers instructions on how to deal with demonic power and it says nothing about addressing them verbally, etc. "Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." Instead of rebuking the devil, we are commanded to SUBMIT (to fully yield and be obedient) to God in our heart and attitude to His Lordship and then RESIST (to stand firm in perseverance) the enemy and the devil will then FLEE (he'll run like the dickens!) from you! Amen!

[@suzannehartmann946]

Read Ephesians six then please.

[@gabrielhalston6726]

@@suzannehartmann946 No where in Ephesians 6 are Christians instructed to address the enemy. All of the armor listed in this chapter for the believer's benefit are DEFENSIVE for the purpose of warding off and quenching the enemy's attacks. The only OFFENSIVE weapon is the Word of God, which is also used as a DEFENSIVE weapon. In the Greek, the word used for "sword" is a small weapon -- about 6''-18'' long that was used back in the times of Jesus. The word of God is used both defensively to fend off Satan’s attacks, and offensively to help destroy the enemy’s strategies. It is the truth of Scripture. However, no where in the Bible -- no where! -- are we instructed to address Satan in a verbal confrontation, not even in Ephesians 6.

[@victoryhouse1446]

But when Jesus was tempted, He spoke directly to satan and quoted scripture. When He cast out demons He did so directly. He even told them at one point not to reveal His identity…

[@gabrielhalston6726]

@@victoryhouse1446 You are correct; yes, Jesus Christ was tempted and He spoke directly back to Satan and quoted Scripture. There is a major difference between Jesus addressing Satan directly and we believers and followers of Christ: Jesus is God Almighty -- and we're not. If you will recall in Jude 9, the archangel, Michael disputed with Satan over the body of Moses. While Scripture doesn't give any particulars over this incident, the Scriptures says in verse 9: "But even the archangel Michael, when he disputed with the devil over the body of Moses, did not presume to bring a slanderous charge against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Not even the highest ranking and most powerful archangel, Michael, dared not address Satan directly nor even bring a charge against him, but said......"The LORD rebuke you!" The chief angel of God, Michael, who especially watches over the nation of Israel (Daniel 10:13, 21; 12:1) and leads all of the holy angels, yielded and deferred himself over to the sovereignty and power of God. Was Michael at least powerful enough to handle Satan? Probably (see Revelation 12:7 where Michael and the holy angels defeated Satan and his demons and threw them out of heaven); however, he completely deferred to God and God only in his rebuke of Satan. If the holy angels, including archangel Michael, dare not address Satan, what makes you or anyone else think we have the authority to do so? We are no match for Satan or his demons -- but, Jesus is more than a match for them. So, the answer is: we don't. In the same manner as Michael did, whenever we find ourselves under spiritual attack from demonic forces (and if you are trusting in Christ and following in His steps, you most certainly will be!) we are to defer as well by submitting ourselves to the Lord in our heart and attitude....resist the enemy.....and, then to continue STANDING. Standing on what? The promises of His word by faith as we do battle against the principalities, the forces of wickedness, the authorities and dominions that assail us from the realm of darkness. Ephesians 6:13 says........"Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to RESIST in the evil day, and having done everything, to STAND firm." So..........we SUBMIT....we RESIST..... we STAND.....all on the promises of God's word. Again, no where -- NO WHERE!! -- in Scripture does God instruct us to address and assault Satan in a verbal manner. We are to submit and defer ourselves to the King of kings and Lord of lords, our God and Savior, JESUS CHRIST!! Maranatha!

[@victoryhouse1446]

@@gabrielhalston6726 I had a bunch of stuff typed out but I sense the Holy Spirit directing me to not post it. Thanks for taking the time to respond in such a thorough manner. This is one topic that I will be further pursuing the Lord about. Have a blessed day brother.

[@johnwoodward1873]

If we are not to address demons directly but pray for God's intervention, then why did Paul address the spirit of divination directly?

[@brimstonebrimstone8617]

Paul was an apostle, the apostles had special abilities given to them directly by Jesus to advance the newly formed church and Christianity. One of the mistakes that people make these days is thinking they have the exact same powers and abilities that the apostles had. Yes we have gifts, as described in the New Testament, but those are not the same powers that the apostles had.

[@reggie7716]

Its possible Paul was operating the use of a "sign gift", similar to when Paul had the ability to heal people instantly. Sign gifts dont seem to be common to all believers.

[@soldtobediers]

My gut feeling is that had Moses body been left available to the Israelites - they might have tried to utilize his bones as an entity to worship.

[@kekeletsokhalema2000]

That's right... especially satan, when he fights for Moses' body so desperately because he had already taken hold of the law when he asked Jesus Christ to turn the law into bread (Gospel) so that they may be partners in teaching the old covenant.

[@FollowMyNewChannel]

I've heard this before and I believe it makes sense.

[@danielleLaw007]

No this is not the reason.

[@soldtobediers]

@@danielleLaw007 Do tell why then.

[@danielleLaw007]

@@soldtobediers it's because Moses, Elijah and Enoch were witnesses to the Truth of our Holy Spirit. The world wasn't ready for the truth then and they're still not ready for the truth. Once this realization of our Holy Spirit is accepted, this truth of the gospel will then be preached at all four corners of the earth. Once this starts happening the end will start and Jesus will return but he won't return until this happens.

[@andrewbrimmer1797]

Faith is always the option we need to fall back on

[@christinel.4921]

You could have easily said you just don’t know. There are things in life we may not have the full knowledge of until we get to heaven where we can ask God face to face. By faith, we must fully trust that the Word of God is 100% true.

[@143witty]

Thank You for Your LIFE that GOD Our Lord JESUS is Using You His Mouthpiece to Encourage Us. I'm a Mentor of a Cell Group,You are Helping me a Lot to Understand Things About GOD and His WORD through Wisdom and the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT by the GRACE of GOD. May the LORD JESUS BLESS YOU RICHLY Dear Brother in CHRIST... Hugsss to You🤗🤗❤ The LORD JESUS YESHUA will Reward You for your Faithfulness ❤🙏🙏🙏

[@s9523pink]

I’ve read that passage a number of times, fascinating insight!

[@warrenrodgers7544]

We all must do our part and spread the good news be bold be brave be humble

[@Brad-gk9jd]

Why? My thought is that God did not want Moses' grave to become a religious site. Satan wants to distract us from worshiping God.

[@treheard3032]

"Believers are not to address demons, but rather to seek the Lord's intervening power against them." James 4:7 - "Submit yourselves therefore to God, resist the devil and he will flee from you" Yeess Pastor Nelson, that is right. I used to do this way to often and still do a little: seek out the devil or sinful actions to resist them acting like I know how. *That's only messing our spirit up and disrespecting God's power and truth* Instead, let the devil and sinful actions come when they come and focus on Jesus to be free from the devil not focusing on the devil

[@nycsguy]

Kind of a drawn out, but still interesting, way to say "I don't know". I especially appreciate the advice at the end to not take it upon ourselves to address angels and demons or to be presumptuous enough to think that we can order them around.

[@suzannehartmann946]

Agreed we are NOT to "order demons around". But we DO bind them in Jesus name, prohibit them from doing evil. NOT the same as conjuring them up and getting them to do things FOR us. Stay in the bounds of Ephesians six, putting on the armor of God FIRST then binding as prescribed there.

[@s0la.scr1ptura]

In Exodus 34 it says the face of Moses shined when he came down from Mount Sinai, emitting so much light they had to cover his face with a vail. I always wondered if his body still emitted this light even after death and perhaps that’s why Satan wanted it. To prevent future generations from seeing evidence that the Bible is true, that Moses really did come in contact with Almighty God on Mount Sinai.

[@OldMovieRob]

This was helpful. I've puzzled over this passage before.

[@fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676]

2 Corinthians 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. Ephesians 4:27 Neither give place to the devil. 2 Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

[@brianburdette4356]

The words of God are all true! I shall fear no evils, they art is with me.

[@BudTezzy2345]

* thou art (God is )

[@brianburdette4356]

@@BudTezzy2345 yea that is right I text to fast before reading it over thou is right

[@ToOpen6seven]

What a biblical and excellent answer to this question -- thank you!!

[@iamdancer]

I don't get it..body after death? Or his soul while living? Why? This answered nothing for me

[@terrallputnam7979]

I think the most important fact here is that we know that there is spiritual warfare going on all the time. We must put on the whole armor of God every day. We can't count on guardian angels to save us from every temptation and demonic attack.

[@treheard3032]

Ive seen in the comment section. Mark 16:17 - "...; *In my name* shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues" I didnt catch this, but I remember that in the Word we have the ability given from Jesus that we can cast out demons. But that doesnt exclude us from not calling upon God like Michael did. Thanks for the explanation Pastor Nelson. I want to point out the misconception though. All love anyway, God bless

[@kat64470]

I don’t agree with the last statement. If the minister didn’t command the demon to leave me perhaps I wouldn’t be set free

[@pfalgren]

Mark 16:17-18. These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; they will pick up serpents and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.

[@pebubelho1250]

This passage is very controversial. One interpretation is that, according to cessationists, when we see the context, these "signs" were given (by Jesus) only to the apostles of that era.

[@kal-elsonofjor-el5770]

Whens the last time you drank poison and survived? Never.. you can't pick and choose which parts of a specific verse can be applied to you.

[@lucienpetrus6906]

Amen 🙏 from Cape Town South Africa SDA

[@suzannehartmann946]

Zechariah 3:2 And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary: 'Jehovah pushes against thee, O Adversary, Yea, pushes against thee doth Jehovah, Who is fixing on Jerusalem (= 'teaching of peace'), Is not this a brand delivered from fire?'

[@Mishakol1290]

Reading in my Catholic New Jerusalem Bible's notes that this was from the apocryphal writing The Assumption of Moses. I can't seem to find anywhere it directly says they were fighting over his body.

[@brandonblanks9610]

The enemy always tries to put God's people under the burden, bondage and guilt of the Law which is what Moses represents. That's why he could not enter the promised land. The law is not made for a righteous man.

[@E_RichG]

Amen! Do you not know we are The Lord’s elect? Do you not know that we will judge the angels? We who are born of the Holy Spirit and the regenerate assembly of believers in Yahusha HaMashiach are the body of Christ and have the power to raise the dead, heal the sick, proclaim the acceptable day of The Lord and cast out demons. Do you not know the power of the resurrection lives inside us and that Christ dwells within us? We boast not in our flesh but in The Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ who lives within us. Praise Our Lord and Savior! Fear only Him! Amen.

[@thale9286]

Thank you!!

[@AdivasiChef]

We are God’s image in this Evil world With God’s Spirit inside of us, that’s separates us from angles and angels Do not have the Holy Spirit inside of them (p.s If I am not Wrong ) , and also We have the power to Cast out Devil in the Name of Jesus.

[@matthewbowen8254]

The dispute is quoted from the testament of Moses

[@jesuscameforrelationshipno4165]

The testament of Moses is not cannon

[@esterbaque7757]

Marvelous explanation.

[@LightentheEarthMinistry]

When an unbiblical statement is slipped in at the very end like that it comes across as misleading the people in the wrong direction. Why would any Bible teacher say "who are we to cast out demons" when the Bible commands it?

[@philippinestroppoholic7996]

It's simple. Christ had not yet died for mankind, so Satan was disputing that Michael didn't have the right to raise Moses from the dead at that time.

[@A00249263]

The reason the LORD sent the Archangel Michael to gather Moses body. Was due to the mere fact that the children of Israel would’ve made Moses an Idol. Ecclesiasticus 22:12 12. “Seven days do men mourn for him that is dead; but for a fool and an ungodly man all the days of his life.”

[@ronaldtrunk7944]

God held humans in such high regard that even St. Michael the arcangel does not have the responsibility of rebuking Satan that the Apostles did

[@jedmeadows6226]

You ably discussed why we should accept this account as true. However, you don't address the issue of why Moses and Satan were disputing over the body of Moses. I have always accepted the first issue as true, but have wondered as to the reason for this dispute. I have heard some speculate that Moses is one of the two end time witnesses and that God through Michael was retaining the body of Moses so that it could be reanimated at that time. However, I've never heard a theory that answers this question with certainty. I don't see this question to be of any real doctrinal significance, but it's something I have long been curious about.

[@musiclover148]

I wondered while listening to the video whether the dispute had anything to do with Moses' being one of the two witnesses in Revelation, and Satan's trying to prevent that by destroying the body! Then I scrolled down and found your statement that others have speculated the same thing. Thanks for mentioning this.

[@deliberativedisciple]

The two witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. In a typological sense, Moses represents the first witness, since the Torah are the books of Moses, but those who take the two witnesses to be literal resurrected people or perhaps the anti-christ to be a single person, need to do more cross-referenced study. Revelation is very symbolic. Remember how Jesus told His disciples to beware the leaven of the Pharisees and they started speculating it was because they didn't have any bread with them? Yeah, it's like that.

[@musiclover148]

@@deliberativedisciple As far as I know, the Old and New Testaments can't call down fire on people. The Old and New Testaments can't be killed and then lie in the streets for three days. The world can't rejoice that the Old and New Testaments have been killed. It is not that difficult to distinguish in the pages of the Revelation between symbols of things or persons and real things or persons.

[@96tolife]

My understanding is that that the author of Jude was quoting from an apocryphal Jewish scroll known as the Assumption of Moses to make a larger point. It is not that this event happened.

[@paulrock4816]

Thank you for activating your comments, I thought it was strange to be called got questions & you did not take comments?

[@LadySue13]

UPDATED - Ummm, are we not above or below angels? Are we not suppose to cast out demons as per the book of Acts? So why even ask in the end of this video "who are we to cast out demons?" We are to do so as a commission by Jesus. This is why you can't believe everything you hear and watch. Because soo many ppl in faith don't know their authority in Christ and take dominion.

[@JR-xh1hv]

Same here... Isn't it that Jesus commanded His disciples to cast out demons? 🤔

[@LadySue13]

@@JR-xh1hv yep!! I wonder if the folks creating these videos, are partnering with the Holy Spirit, getting true revelation from scripture, not just studying the scriptures. Because studying the scriptures without partnering with the Holy Spirit to understand scripture is just reading words in a book.

[@victoriabassey263]

Hi LadySue Yeah, you are right. We are to cast out demons as Jesus commanded. But regarding the matter of we being greater than angels, it's not true at this time. Psalms 8:4-5 4. What is man that You are mindful of him and the son of man that you visit him? 5. For You have made him a little lower than angels and you have crowned him with glory and honour. We are actually lower than them. Also, just as there are hierarchies in God's Kingdom, so are they in the kingdom of darkness. Demons are amongst the low level bad guys and we have permission to cast them out. But demonic princes, territorial spirits or wickedness in the heavenly, we aren't permitted to touch them except give permission by God too. [Jude 1 and 2 Peter 2].

[@LadySue13]

@@victoriabassey263 Hi Victoria 🙋🏻‍♀️, thank you for correcting me in that. You are absolutely right... we are lower than angels. And yet, still have charge over them. Thank you for that. I knew we were on some level regarding angels 😁

[@victoriabassey263]

@@LadySue13 Yes, but I'd like to add something about angels too. They are also in hierarchy. There are guardian angels, warrior angels, messenger angels, archangels and other types the Bible doesn't tell us about. You can't have charge over all of them and even the ones you might have charge over, it might be because of a particular assignment that God is sending you on, so you'll definitely need them. There are angels whose presence makes people faint or fall sick [you'd see that if you read the Book of Daniel]. There are angels who shouldn't be provoked [you'd see that in Exodus with the children of Israel], etc. Just see angels as servants who are there to train and help and assist and discipline (like tutors) the 5years old prince till he becomes a mature son (maybe 21years old). If he is made prince regent, his tutors now become his servant. So it's safe to understand that while we walk towards attaining sonship, we have angels sent to assist us in what we do and that if we are faithful like our older Brother was, we will be over them too.

[@dkmenns003]

The archangel Michael was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses because Angel Michael was taking Moses straight to heaven, skipping purgatory (Hades), whereas every righteous person (with the exception of Enoch and Elijah) went to purgatory before Christ died. The reason is, the devil then had the ‘right’ to take the body of Moses because he then held the keys to death. Archangel Michael however rebuked him in the name of the Lord, a higher authority, and absolved this right he had concerning Moses. This is why we see in Luke 9, Moses and Elijah (from heaven) having a chat with Jesus when He was transfigured. Hope you are all blessed. Let’s remain abiding in the Word!

[@fredalwatkins4506]

You missed the fact that Moses and Elijah are the two witnesses. The Bible describes the miracles the two witnesses perform and they're the same ones Moses and Elijah performed. Elijah was raptured up. Moses died but the Lord wanted his body

[@nanabonandtatasfamilyadven486]

Mark 16:17 clearly states that we have the authority of those who believe!

[@alanfenwick9560]

the body would be a tool to get idol worship going of Moses - where the worship would be taken away from God

[@kendra9688]

Did I miss the answer? He said 1) The incident happened because the Bible is inerrant and 2) don't rebuke demons. He never said WHY there was a dispute. Michael Heiser at least gives an answer.

[@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22]

Peace be with you Friend ❤️ He did give a theory to answer the question(1:27 - 1:47).

[@claudiabranham8426]

We'll find out when we get there

[@rubenmedina9156]

this is a passage that i would ask what is the point of it, why would God care about the flesh of Moses, when He has clearly stablished all trought the Bible that He does not care about the flesh He cares about the spirt, why would there be a fight for the dead body of Moses... Got questions, yes a lot of them and this is certaintly one that is going to leave you without one precise answer

[@arcguardian]

It could be principle. Was Moses bones supposed to enter the promise land or something like that? God cares about flesh, out bodies are the temple of God. We are to present ourselves to God as a living sacrifice, in such context how we treat our physical bodies is of utmost importance. I hope that helps. U may want to ask Mike Winger that question on his Q and A today in 1hr 1/2 from now.

[@charlesarbuckle7958]

Does anyone know what they do to bodies of dead political leaders/icons/saints etc. Does anyone know what the pop culture does with Jim Morrisons' grave? Idolatrous behaviour of man can lead to worshipping the wrong things. We are only to bow before our God on high. He alone is worthy of worship. This might help you understand. Best regards.

[@rubenmedina9156]

@@charlesarbuckle7958 like you said idolatrous behaviour of man leads to worshipping the wrong things, so in that line of reasoning if God protected the body of Moses for that reason, that also should have happened to the grave and body of Jim Morrison...after we die the body decompose and it rottens, God has always make that understandable and i would say that decomposition is the fisical example of his word, if someone chooses to play worship on dead bodies to me its just seems like a waste... I like the way this is explained in the bible in Isaiah 8:19. Best regards to you too!

[@charlesarbuckle7958]

@Island Man Yes. The Ark of the Covenant of course, not Noahs' ark. Even wooden carved pieces of rubbish if someone lied to them and said it has mystical properties. Idol worship is currently a pandemic. Look at the ornaments you can buy in shops currently which resembles Egyptian pharaohs and gods. Crazy world we live in.

[@joshuajesus1774]

Idolatry . U are Wrong. Why Satan want the body of Moses ? Satan do not want Moses body to come back alive as Human Being same as our Lord Jesus Christ ! Satan like to see " Blood Sport Games " means human beings killing another human beings and humans sacrifice offering !

[@danielleLaw007]

The reason why Moses, Elijah and Enoch were taken to heaven is because they were witnesses to the truth of our Holy Spirit.❤ this final realization will come soon and then preached throughout the world. When this final realization is preached then Jesus will return and the end will come.

[@maryarnold3743]

No no no!!!!! You can fight Spirits in the mighty name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. You can bind them, cast them out, and ask God to curse them. Jesus showed us an example when he rebuked Satan on Peter. It's not true that you can'tfight back. Michael did not have the authority to rebuke Satan. We do because of the blood of the lamb. If you don't understand something in the bible ask Father. He will give you an answer. Not always immediately, but have patience. Be blessed. ❤️

[@okmich]

Sadly, the video got scriptures so wrong at the end. Who are we? Sons of God. We have authority over all the powers of the enemy. Luke 10:19. Jesus admonished that we shouldn't brag about that anyways but rejoice instead that out names are written in heaven. I, for one have cast out many devils before. I am not stopping anytime soon.

[@playerone2629]

Christians do have the authority to cast out demons in the name of Jesus Christ though, and is biblical.

[@rachelmarks796]

Just for clarity: The Prince of Persia is not a demon. It never says that in the scripture. The entity is implied to be one of the sons of god that YHWH portioned the nations to and then judged in Ps 82. And as it lists in Eph 6:12: “We do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, and against spiritual wickedness in high place.“ - these are all unique types of entities, all unique words used to describe each one by Paul. We really need to stop referring to everything in the unseen realm as a demon or an angel because it’s WAY more complex than that. Paul understood this, but we’ve been blinded by our Hellenistic brothers and lost our Hebrew roots. Let’s get back to them… (a good place to begin: Michael Hieser’s Unseen Realm)

[@katiehav1209]

Good answer

[@humbllbug]

Yahshua - you know Him as Jesus - was born to a virgin, turned water to wine, taught, healed the sick, raised the dead, casted out demons, walked on water, calmed the storm, and fed a crowd of thousands with a few fish and a few loaves of bread, among many other things. He was killed on the cross as payment for the sins of all mankind, three days later He rose from the dead. Forty days later He ascended into heaven where He sits at the right hand of the Father. He is returning very soon, but before He does, Satan, the devil, is coming to pretend to be Jesus/God (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4). Satan is an angel, and he will have certain supernatural powers with which to try to fool everyone. He will, for example, be able to make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men. He will only be on earth a short time before the real King of Kings, Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, returns. When the real Jesus comes we will all be transformed into our spiritual bodies at the same moment. Jesus came in the flesh to offer forgiveness of sins and eternal life to anyone who believes and calls on His precious name! if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her. - Matthew 26:6-13 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.... To anoint your self, the sick, or a building for spiritual protection: Get a small bottle of olive oil and pour off a small amount into a smaller vessel like a vial or baby food jar. Use the rest of the bottle for cooking. Ask the Lord to bless your vial of oil in Jesus name. Anoint yourself with the oil by placing a dab of oil on tip of finger and touch it to your forehead, and ask the Lord to bless you/heal you. Place a dab of oil on your finger and anoint the door posts and order all negativity and evil out of the house, and order that nothing negative or evil can enter into your home including piggybacking on a person entering, order it to be so in the name of Jesus. Anoint all potential entrances to your home. To anoint the sick, place oil on tip of finger and touch it to the head of the sick and say a prayer of healing over them in Jesus name. See James Chapter 5:14-15...'

[@barbasiaz4557]

Ever since WESTMINSTER CONFESSION (a quarrel between Scottish Presbyterians and English Anglicans) ..... these books have been chopped off. WHO AUTHORIZED the quarrelers to do that?!?!?!

[@spiritoftruth70]

What is the meaning of the word Archangel? What is the meaning of the name Michael? What is the state of the dead? Study these and you'll get a better understanding as to why there was a dispute over Moses's body and why Michael could rebuke Satan.

[@dalenr8772]

One thing the devil always wanted & craved for was the worship of humans which rightfully belongs to God alone. There is also the possiblity that he wanted to use Moses body for false worship

[@toddbibby5456]

They were disputing over the body of Moses because Moses was going to appear at the transfiguration later on. It usually has to do with the messiah when Satan tries to thwart something outright.

[@MJDHX]

Mark 16:17-19

[@chikombechela2460]

Such a powerful lesson here!!!

[@dstarkspp]

Oh please it’s just a story….

[@chikombechela2460]

@@dstarkspp well powerful lessons can be derived from stories wouldn't you say.....

[@DannyBoyT66]

Could it be that God hid Moses' body because he knew some people would end up worshipping it? Maybe Satan wanted to reveal the location so that would happen.

[@TheMasterofallsides]

The spirit vs the law. The law is for the body but grace is for the spirit.

[@michaelseay9783]

Jude 9 has nothing to do with “the body of Moses”. It’s symbolic of someone else. And saying that the event is no where else in the Bible is absolutely false. It’s in Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, John 20, and Revelation 12 with different information used and/or different perspectives explained.

[@anthonya.2871]

Ummm...no answer 😐

[@pagen5219]

WE RANK Higher than angels or demons,,,we are children of God in Christ and like angels where we cant die,or perish,,,but we rank inJESUS TO COMMAND THEM, CUZ HE LIVES IN US,,,,

[@victoriabassey263]

We rank higher than angels? Don't you think this directly contradicts the scriptures as it says in Psalms 8:4-5 4. What is man that You are mindful of him and the son of man that you visit him? 5. For You have made him a little lower than angels and you have crowned him with glory and honour.

[@pagen5219]

@@victoriabassey263 im in the new covenant, in JESUS,not in the old like david,,,,learn your covanant, THAT WAS JESUS,HE ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE A LIL LOWER TO be our humble servant and die for us, fulfilling the law, freeing us from it and NOW IS EXUALTED ABOVE ALL,,,,,learn the word,

[@pagen5219]

@@victoriabassey263 YOU READ IT, BUT YOU DONT KNOW IT,,LEARN WHO HE IS, WHAT HE DID AND HOW EXAULTED HE IS AND WE IN HIM,,,,,,ARE SEATED WITH HIM IN HIGH PLACES,,,,,,,,so if you get saved,,,,,you can be too,,,i guess,,,,,,but you insult JESUS RIGHT NOW,and dont even understand them verses and what and whom it meant,

[@pagen5219]

@@victoriabassey263 NOW YOU CONTRADICT CHRIST HIMSELF, go humble yourself and learn the gospel,dont just quote it or read it,,,much of the world is not saved but thinks it is,,preaching demonic doctrine,

[@pagen5219]

@@victoriabassey263 good God, do you not know JESUS AT ALL?

[@swen6797]

The body of Moses is the body of the church that is unfit to enter the holy land until it finally acts to keep His covenant for day and night by diligently walking within the light and night of the sun of righteousness. Jeremiah 33:25. 1 John 1:7 Walking in darkness is blasphemy of the spirit. It only makes you a liar, deceiver, and the opposite of Christ. 2 John 1:7. Be just like your father Abraham that delighted to see My day upon his flesh and it made his heart glad. John 8:56

[@vincentmead3222]

Who are we? We are Christians, "now are we the sons of God" (1John 3:1-2) and as many as received Him, He gave them power to become sons of God (St. John 1:12) we are "kings and priests" (Rev.1:6) (1 Pet.2:9) as kings in the Kingdom of God we were given power to become sons of God (St. Luke 10:19) this power that has been given to us Born Again Christian, by the Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of glory, enables to rebuke and cast out devils (St. Matt.10:8) we can resist even Satan himself (James 4: 7) and he has to run for cover, as long as we are clothed in the full armour of God (Eph.6:11- 18) that is who we are, we are conquerors and more than conquerors in Him who love us

[@tanyachavis2578]

Thanks for the answer. Makes sense! I guess.

[@yeahrightbear8883]

Why is Satan rarely quoted in the bible? He is the main antagonist and yet gets very little speaking time.There are lots of passages about Satan, but I can only think of 3 times where he actually speaks.

[@rogerhuggettjr.7675]

I've always wondered if the devil wanted Moses body where people could make an icon out of it as they did the serpent pole and get people stuck in superstitious worship of the man.

[@markanthony3275]

They were disputing because the Devil wanted the burial place of Moses to be a kind of idol so the Israelites could be led into another kind of idolatry on top of what they were already doing.

[@popjaw1andOnly]

Really? How Interesting. Says who?

[@cynthiaperras867]

@ Mark Anthony, That’s a likely possibility if not an absolute fact, brother. I can see why you would suggest it based on when King Hezekiah destroyed the copper snake the LORD had commanded Moses to make when the people had been bitten and were dying in the wilderness: people had begun worshipping it in idolatry. Blessings to you in Christ our Lord. 2Ki 18:4 “He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan .” [something made of copper, that is, the copper serpent of the Desert: - Nehushtan.]

[@soulsaxmurrill]

Great video, but, the Bible says we have power over demons, and Christians in scripture, have cast them out before us. We have the same Jesus, inside of us to do the same👍🏾 Mark 16:17 is very clear And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues It’s not in our own power, but through the power of the Lord WE CAN, put any devil that opposes us in its place….under our 🦶🏾 feet We have been given authority to do so. My question to you would be, do you believe that you have authority to do so? If the answer is yes, then prepare yourself to do so :-)

[@robincorbin4063]

Mark 16:17 says what signs follow a deciple.

[@darrickross1419]

Good place to look and read is "The Works Of Flavius Josephus" he explained that Moses last speech to the people. He went to embrace Eleazar and Joshua, and a cloud stood over him and he disappeared. Mentioning that he (Moses) wrote in the Holy books that he died. Out of fear. You have to read for yourself but that could be why they fought over his body. Satan had claim but Yah wanted him. Definitely something to research an pray about.

[@jesseomoregie7386]

You did not answer the question as paraded in the title; or did I miss a thing?

[@ketorn987]

This is awesome

[@jq8974]

You had me until you said we are not to cast out demons. Scripture does not stand up to that comment. Jesus actually commissioned us to do so, as well as to heal, resurrect and to preach the good news. As you say, and I believe it, scripture is inerrant. The onus is on us to come under it. But I liked your analysis very much otherwise. My experience with casting out demons is they will obey but it’s a very important practice to not get into arguments with them or let them speak much, because they lie, blaspheme And stir up fear. And the only fear worth having is the fear of the Lord. His perfect love makes us able to do amazing things in his name and for his kingdom. For that I am so grateful. But correct interpretation of scripture keeps me safe in the realm of supernatural. I stand on the perfect word of God and I stand in godly community or I cannot stand. I appreciate your teaching.

[@rogerhuggettjr.7675]

The Bible says we, not angels, will judge angels. We have authority over demons. We are sons of God. We are of a higher order than angels and though we have less physical power we have greater authority if our spirit aligns with God's will. We, not angels are created in God's image. That image isn't physical, but spiritual.

[@LoveJesus5165]

Would you consider a different perspective or hypothesis? The ancient Jews appear to me as though they worshipped the law of Moses itself rather than Jehovah himself. If we looked more closely at the history of the more modern Catholic church, we see the reverence of relics, ostensibly the relics of 'saints', pieces of bodies and even whole skeletons. Perhaps Jehovah tasked Michael with securing the body so that Satan couldn't use it to inculcate worship or reverence of Moses' body (which equates idol worship) among the Jews, seeing ahead as Jehovah does how they eventually viewed the law? Just my thoughts on that.

[@Sons_of_Thunder.]

Exactly!!!

[@joshuajesus1774]

Idolatry . Wong. Do U why Satan want the body of Moses ? Satan do not want Moses body to come back alive as Human Being same as our Lord Jesus Christ ! Satan like to see " Blood Sport Games " means killing human beings and humans sacrifice offering !

[@AstariahJW]

Jesus/Micheal said may Jehovah rebuke you Yes satan wanted moses body for idol worship Satan got christianity to commit idol worship

[@joshuajesus1774]

@@AstariahJW Lord God had already risen the body of Moses the day He died for 40 days on Earth. The body and souls become One , ascended to Heaven. In the Heaven , Lord God recreate a new body of Moses replace Human Body , a new Celestial body.

[@AstariahJW]

@@joshuajesus1774 huh? What you said isn't biblical Moses is sleeping in the gave to this day Jesus said no man has ascended to heaven so moses ismt in heaven Moses has a hope of a future resurrection that will happen on earth Moses is in Jehovahs memory

[@alexsanchez3635]

The Dispute I believe Is because Moses was a Pharaoh before he was a Prophet of God,he helped build some part of the city and won many battles as (Pharaohs Son)so he belonged to the Egyptian Hierarchy,hence why Satan wants to lay claim to him.He was his before God ,this is my thought

[@tonguetattered]

They fought over Moses body because Moses is one of the two Witnesses from Revelation (compare the list of powers/miracles) and Satan wanted to thwart his return (Moses') with the other witness (most likely Elijah - again compare power/miracles). You would only need to keep Moses' body if it was intended to be used again.. .otherwise we have new bodies ready for Christ's return.

[@Rolando_Cueva]

Isn't it weird how Jude quotes Enoch and the Assumption of Moses? Makes you wonder whether we should include these two in the Bible. The Ethiopians have Enoch in their Bible. Maybe we should have it too? They don't seem to have the Assumption of Moses though.

[@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22]

Peace be with you Friend ❤️ I do Not think so

[@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22]

Jude’s citation of the Assumption of Moses-if, in fact, he was citing that particular work-is not necessarily an endorsement of the work itself. Paul, for example, cited a non-Christian poet in Acts 17:28 and a non-scriptural narrative in 2 Timothy 3:8. Both references were meant to support a particular point Paul was making. Similarly, Jude’s possible allusion to the Assumption of Moses was to help further his point about false teachers.

[@michaelseay9783]

@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 Jude 9 has nothing to do with “the body of Moses”. It’s symbolic of someone else.

[@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22]

@@michaelseay9783 May I ask, how can it be Symbollic?

[@OutlawToys]

The Devil and demon are not really interchangeable. Demons are not necessarily fallen angels. The scripture records "depart into ever lasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels" not devil and his demons. Could they be the same, maybe, they both are ruled by the same master but they are referred to in different context. You don't see angels (fallen or otherwise) seeking to occupy a body like demons do. The scripture also refers to angels that "left their first estate" (purpose or form of being) as being reserved in chains.

[@deliberativedisciple]

"The scripture records "depart into ever lasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels" not devil and his demons." So...we can conclude demons don't face the final judgment? Or maybe that there multiple words that can describe the same thing...

[@OutlawToys]

@@deliberativedisciple I do not think you can conclude that. The referenced scripture is being spoken to people that are not "the devil and his angels" and so we know that it was prepared for a particular set of creatures but that it will be the destiny of more than that. Otherwise, at least it seems to me, that Jesus could/would have just said prepared for 'you' or "prepared for all who oppose" but it seems to point that it was created originally for a particular set of creatures and then those who follow them were added, or you could look at it that anyone that resists God is an angel (messenger) of 'the devil'.

[@bluecat133]

OK, but do not confuse Fallen Angels and Demons. Not the same.

[@hippiebiker3399]

Mark 16:17 - And these signs shall accompany them that believe: in my name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues. That’s just one of several scriptures that give us authority in Jesus name to cast out demons. His title was nothing more than click bait to get us to watch, and then he had no answer to the question. Instead, he used the opportunity to actually deny scripture that is very plain in its meaning. Why? Read and study your Bible. Then you won’t fall victim to the lies of the enemy. Greater is He (Holy Spirit) that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[@ryanehlis426]

Because Moses was raised from the dead when Jesus appeared with Moses and Elijah on the Mount of transfiguration, it is a picture of the pre tribulation rapture/resurrection.

[@markj2m]

First off, are you sure angels and demons are the same entity? Some would dispute that fact, stating that "fallen" angels and demons are a different hierarchy in Satan's kingdom. Demons are disembodied spirits and always seek to "possess" a body, while angels fallen or not can materialize in a body without possession. Second, as a Christian we are united to Christ, He lives in true believers by the Holy Spirit. That fact alone changes the whole dynamic of interaction with the forces of evil, verse say the interaction between an angel and satanic forces. No scripture is of private interpretation, need to see the whole body of work.