Why Won't This Rolex Datejust Tick?

Today we have José's 1986 Rolex Datejust on the bench and what a stunner this watch is! It is however also a non-runner, although the handset and date quick-set works. Let's find out what the problem is and see if we can fix it!
The Datejust is an iconic model, virtually unchanged in design since its introduction in 1945. While there have been some variance in the sizes of the different Datejust models, the basic design has stayed the same and for good reason. It is a watch pretty much the whole world recognizes as a Rolex.
Join Stian for a full service and repair of this beautiful watch as we discuss cold winter days in Norway and see if the fish is good or bad!
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[@alanmckinnon6791]

That fish drawing was just just the best, please tell your daughter that was a good one!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thank you, I will 😁

[@ryno101]

It's a good day when we get a new video from Vintage Watch Services. Nicely done!

[@VintageWatchServices]

😊👍

[@thesjyoungjr]

Your car pushing story brought back one that happened to me. A young lady had pulled up to a local store. When she got ready to leave, her car would not start. I offered to push it backwards to get it running. I explained to her what she needed to do. But I forgot to tell her to put the car in reverse. I got it rolling back, and she released the clutch and put her foot on the throttle. I ended up on the windshield, but we got her car running. 😊

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂👍

[@andybgross]

I love the fish drawing! And I love your videos. Keep ‘em coming!

[@bullnose01]

It is so soothing to watch you do a straightforward, low drama service (except for the horrifying predatory fish monster 😵). Do you pressure test a vintage watch like this when you finish the service? You and the family have a safe and fun holiday.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks, Bullnose :) I don't pressure test all vintage watches, but this one I indeed did. I have one of those pressure chamber testers

[@theboz19]

Showing off putting the click spring on with one hand!! Awesome video, thanks again!

[@Watcheyes]

Hi Stian, hope all is well! Now I'll sit back and relax with some smörgåstårta and watch you work 😀

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@CrimFerret]

One thing you can say for Rolex is the movements are just well designed. They aren't decorated or anything, but the tolerances and fit is top tier. They use more jewels than most as well, but that keeps the reliability up. I think a lot of the sports models are way overpriced, but a nice Datejust like this totally obtainable at MSRP.

[@johnsrabe]

We all had plug-in block heaters in Sault Ste Marie.

[@lynnjasen9727]

We had ‘em in Montreal, too, during my childhood! And, I am most certainly older than Stian, so what why was Norway so far behind the times? Once I moved to slightly warmer parts of the country, I spent quite a lot of money reimbursing car rental companies for their extension cords when I unthinkingly drove away without unplugging first! 🇨🇦💕

[@benfoust7424]

Another great video Stain, thank you for sharing!

[@mrclassic2284]

Fish drawing epic !

[@thomasgabriel2213]

As always, another fantastic video. We appreciate all you do. I personally really like the history lessons as you work...and the stories! Thank you.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thank you very much!

[@danieldayton3064]

Thanks for another quality video, Stian, but a question...2 meters of snow every day? Was it also an uphill walk--both ways--to school? 😄

[@VintageWatchServices]

Most of the time, indeed!

[@brucebarlow6604]

At the Arnold Schwarzenegger school of watch making they pinch those bezels back on they also do drawings manly of flaming chainsaw juggling mishaps. Lovely fish drawing Stian you must be a very proud father. Keep well from New Zealand

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁 Thanks, Bruce!

[@saleendriver]

Funny thing occurred to me: Porsche 911.....basically the same design since the 50s or 60s. Just refinements, improvements, welcome additions; but still keeping the same basic theme. And it sells and sells and sells! Rolex.....same principle. And it sells and sells and sells. Pretty good argument for sticking with a classic design, refining it over time, and staying with a classic product that works. It just works. Funny how that is........

[@RabbitWatchShop]

That analogy is talked about all time, yet that just occurred to you? Yeah, sure.

[@drawincode1800]

Yeah it just works that's why this is a repair video silly jew ✡ 😜 🤣

[@csanadbarczy9153]

I'm sure that endless advertising helps out a lot too because Rolex makes some of the most boring watches on the planet and in order to sell them the masses must be reminded daily. Porsche on the other and does manage to create something exciting with each new model based on a familiar shape. Only redeeming fact about Rolex that they also produce other wat h models that look nothing like a Rolex.

[@g43654]

​@csanadbarczy9153 Omega and other brands also advertise like crazy but they could never get the same success as Rolex, if all it takes is marketing. So it has to be something else?

[@Theo-ul8qm]

I used to think something similar before I actually got into a new Porsche 911. I've never been inside an old one, but it's really only some cosmetic similarities on the outside (and the rear placement of the engine) that are similar. The new one feels big, bulky and very tall compared to any old car I've been in.

[@321-Gone]

I'd love to find a manufacturer of see thru back plates for older watches. I really dig the older brass plated movements.

[@VintageWatchServices]

There are manufacturers of display case backs for old watches, if you try a google search or on eBay you can find them for quite a few models.

[@mercuriall2810]

Thanks for another enjoyable video, Stian. A few thoughts regarding demagnetising watches during service - I’ve noticed you always show demagnetising the movement after reassembly, and this is certainly enough in terms of the services watch being free of magnetism and the issues associated with it. I’ve noticed other KZbin watchmaking channels do the same thing, if they show demagnetising at all. I was always taught to demagnetise both before and after servicing the movement. I’m not sure it would make much difference very often, but the thought behind it is that if the watch is significantly magnetised, any small ferrous metal particles, caused by wear and tear will adhere to magnetised areas of the movement. Such particles aren’t that uncommon in vintage pieces that have been used without a recent service. Magnetism could retain such tiny fragments in place all the way through cleaning and reassembly. You then demagnetise the watch after reassembly, potentially releasing these metal particles into the freshly cleaned and serviced movement. This shouldn’t happen if you demagnetise before disassembly and cleaning, and do it once again after reassembly in case any parts became magnetised during the service due to magnetised tools etc. Perhaps this is often overkill, but it can’t hurt to demagnetise twice to prevent the above from ever being a problem.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for your comment! I do indeed demagnetise a watch if it runs very erratically and it shows magnetisation on my tester.

[@robertjordan7323]

Nice cleaning on the watch. But we have you beat in Canada with snow 11 months, 3 weeks and 5 days!😂

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@sabbath7081]

The fish picture,😂😂😂

[@soundmindtv2911]

9:36 nailed it 😂

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@ygrbooks]

Thank you for this, dear Stian: 👍👌👏! Seeing that Rolex produces 1'000'000 watches a year - though people seem to have to queue to get one (🤪?) - you have your work cut out for you for the next decades, particularly since Rolex always make a hash out of their costly "revisions". So Rolex it is and will be for the foreseeable future. What works in you favor is that you could read out a telephone book and still sound captivating.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂 Thanks, Yves!

[@WatchRestorationCottage]

That microstella tool is too cool! Thanks for another great video Stian.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for watching!

[@seederi]

I don't really care about rolexes but this one turned out to be very nice and made me happy to see it run properly! Probably has something to do with it being same age as i am

[@nicklapietra3890]

The gaskets looked to be in really good shape. A change from what we often see.

[@kirktennyson612]

First time I have seen your new parts cleaner I love it you will have to show it in full action some time please.

[@sabbath7081]

5 1/2 years ago I purchased a 16030 when I took the case back off and remove the gasket there was so much pitting on the case back and on the case where the gasket was I had to get a used case so that it would seal, what would cause such horrible pitting behind the bracelet under the bezel and where the gasket goes I thought stainless steel was pretty robust the date of the watch was 84 or 85 I believe.

[@remus2001]

I thought the DJ was the first automatic watch with an instantaneously jumping date disk (as opposed to a date hand).

[@neilhaas]

Rolex are wonderful watches. Nice watch Rolex Datejust. ⌚⌚⌚⌚👍🙏🤝🤗❤😊😀😁

[@alexandregb566]

1:56 I feel younger... It feels like I'm living the same thing again... Stian, stop messing up with the time!

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@JoeMenjivar]

congratulations on discovering time travel, it should really come in handy

[@foxwhiskey]

Hi Stian ! The mother of the questions is in this vid: Why don't you use the magic band for repairing the broken main-spring ?? No garlic, no candles or no chorus available ? Run out ? Don't worry, I can help ! 😂😅😊

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@Michel-7.7.7]

That's quite funny. I just startet watching, 5min ago i wondered if someone experienced the second hand running backwards🤯

[@johnsrabe]

My guess is the main spring is broken clean off very close to the arbor.

[@MexicoBeachFloridaLiving]

Great video as always. A real pro and a good teacher.

[@VintageWatchServices]

I appreciate that!

[@RalfyCustoms]

Hello Stian, jusr dropping by to say how much I still enjoy these videos, and the fish is vicious man 😂thank you for sharing buddy, and best wishes to you and yours

[@VintageWatchServices]

Appreciate that, mate! I kind of wish I could afford having you customize my Indian Chief, but I also love it the way it is 😁All well on your side?

[@RalfyCustoms]

​@VintageWatchServices well tbh life's been a bit of a bumpy ride, with health and family, but we're still here dude, plugging away

[@VintageWatchServices]

Yeah, I heard about your stepmother in your latest vid, sorry to hear that...

[@RalfyCustoms]

Thank you buddy​@@VintageWatchServices

[@rf159a]

Use to start my car the same way sometimes when I was a young lad. In the states we call that popping the clutch!!

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@petergoulding2421]

bump starting in the UK 😂

[@rf159a]

😂@@petergoulding2421

[@the-chillian]

That focus is unfortunately why I haven't been working on watches lately. If I start, I need to block out at least 4 hours. Partly because I don't have a permanent workbench, and deciding to work on watches means a certain amount of setup and then putting stuff away, but also because at least that much time will go by without my noticing. And that's very hard to do, the way life is right now.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Sorry to hear that, hope your situation improves 💪

[@andrewswink5825]

I agree. Please tell your daughter that she is a very good artist. And greetings from America! See, now she is international.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍 She is already pretty international, having been born in the Netherlands to a Norwegian dad and Chinese mother, with a Canadian passport, living in Switzerland, speaking English, French and Chinese 😉

[@lynnjasen9727]

@@VintageWatchServicesThe very definition of international, in fact! 🇨🇦

[@jprichard]

Your previous logo was much more distinguishable, in case you were thinking of going back to using it.

[@ralphferrara5152]

Nice job. Very nice movement. I liked your daughter’s drawing. 😊

[@joshuareinoehl924]

The older rolex are much better IMHO Great work brother 👏 👍 💪

[@robertwalker9625]

What a funny drawing by your daughter Stian, I didn't see it coming when she opened the paper. I do have a question Stian that I don't think I've asked you. How long have you been a watch maker? Your videos display your skill and craftsmanship, but I never knew how much noise the watch case and bezel make while dropping them into the liquid in preparation for the ultra sound. I hope you and yours are healthy and at peace and wish you all a very Happy Easter. Cheers from this old, retired coot living the dream in Tennessee.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Robert! I've been working on watches for about 15 years but full time only the last five.

[@BokiPetrovic88]

Hi Stian, what grit is diamond stone you are using for sharpening screwdrivers? Thanks

[@sjoerdbastiaan]

Seconds pinion is bend? The outside of the tube is touching the cannon pinion slightly, so when setting the hands back and forth, the seconds hand jumps a bit with the other hands? Or cannon pinion too tight and when setting the hands it doesn’t slip enough and transfers power to the train side?

[@SubTroppo]

Has José got a 'Bucherer of Switzerland' Rolex spoon to go with that? I recently got one and now I'm looking for a watch to go with it for the same price (two Aussie dollars).

[@TimRobertsen]

Why does the keyless-winding have an engage/disengage-mechanism?

[@stubronstein9932]

Whilst the word Jubilee may have connotations that link it to Britain, it is derived from Hebrew - Yoval יובל, which was the year after seven sabattical cycles, so every fifty years.

[@eshwarrao7358]

Very pretty DateJust.. love the dial color. Which one do you prefer- A Rolex or A Omega to work on and to own? Great work as always Stian!!

[@VintageWatchServices]

They're both great to work on and I also own both brands. I prefer Omegas to own, though, I just don't like the whole brand image of Rolex

[@eshwarrao7358]

@@VintageWatchServices Thanks for the inputs.. I really like Pie Pan version of Omega! - Really liked the work you did on the MoonWatch. makes sense.. At times i think all luxury watches tend to earn more on the brand name..

[@VintageWatchServices]

Oh yes, luxury items are all about overpricing through marketing, but Rolex has really outdone every other brand in that sense. There are so many Rolex fanboys who think Rolexes are supreme to any other watch brand without any actual knowledge, just a near religious belief. My beef is really more with that type of brainwashed fandom than it is with the watches themselves. Rolex watches are very good but that's also all they are in my view. Good watches with boring and blingy designs.

[@eshwarrao7358]

@@VintageWatchServices Completely Agree with you Stian!! -Can't agree more than that..thank you for being humble as you are.

[@kodywillnauer9422]

I always learn something (many things) from your videos. Mainly, I need more tools! 😎

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@erdnadre7566]

Amazing! thats poetry to me! Have you ever thought about giving online courses? Cheers! Andre

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks, Andre! I haven't really thought of that as I'm way too busy, but I do have a member community that I make educational videos for.

[@singlespeedman]

Thanks!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thank you!

[@drummerhammar]

What is the detect zone for on the de-magnitizing apparatus?

[@VintageWatchServices]

I'm not sure, but big enough for large watches

[@larrykelly2838]

Very nice looking watch.

[@Robert32064]

Hello, Stian. A Smartwatch? RELLY? Scoff, scoff. 🤣 Nice video, as always.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Just a fitness band 😉

[@Robert32064]

@@VintageWatchServices The fish drawing is an all-time highlight.

[@VintageWatchServices]

​@@Robert32064😂👍

[@MrMadvillan]

Question if you wouldn't mind! You send the mainplate with balanced attached through the cleaner but balance jewels and frames out? Seems like there is some debate about this, some leave the balance jewels in. I personally do it the same as you. Is this a preference thing? What did your training teach you?

[@VintageWatchServices]

The way I do it 😉

[@boydsargeant7496]

Nice one Stian! Do you the Calendar lever or the jewel?

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks, Boyd! Not sure I understand your question?

[@321-Gone]

You know that they say about the Swiss? They have allot of time on their hands. Enjoy your videos.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Dad joke alert! 😂👍

[@cokemachine5510]

2:22 a mainspring issue, running backward. Over wind? And snap ?

[@cokemachine5510]

Found you when i broke my leg, i discovered youtube. Ive learned alot... Master ..

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for finding the channel and I hope your leg is doing better!

[@cokemachine5510]

@@VintageWatchServices that was two years ago. Completely healed, thanks 😊. Stupid gravity!

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​@@cokemachine5510😂👍

[@talldave1000]

My guess is that something is impeding the hairspring

[@rickkirby6856]

I LOVED the bad fish!

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂👍

[@gang208]

But this is an unbreakable main spring. 😁

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@Daud76]

To tick or not to tick! That is the question.. 😄

[@donnyboon2896]

Yes.

[@burrellthomson]

I would be interested to know roughly how long it took for you to service this Datejust?

[@VintageWatchServices]

About four hours of work

[@LCMNUNES1962]

EXCELENTE SERVIÇO 👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🇧🇷

[@624Dudley]

Pardon me, Stian, did I hear that correctly - braking grease? I understand the logic, I think, but I’m not acquainted with lubricants that have built-in tackiness.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@riflemusket]

Mange takk! 🇳🇴

[@orvillefindley8117]

If the watch is magnetised it can cause the second hand to go backwards.

[@tangentradio7272]

Broken main spring?

[@jensers11]

Seems like diamonds - not as rare as the price suggests…

[@weerobot]

Cool..

[@RichardPolhill]

2:02 Is Matthew McConaughey trying to send a message?

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@FourIntoOne]

Literally just replaced the mainspring in my 16013 Datejust. Wrist testing it now. Broken in exactly the same place. Its a conspiracy I tell you.....

[@VintageWatchServices]

🤔

[@garyboyle695]

I think Mimo being the first wrist watch with a date complication is much more significant than Rolex doing it with an automatic. And was it really Rolex or was it Aegler?

[@VintageWatchServices]

Aegler :)

[@garyboyle695]

Definitely. But somehow Rolex gets the credit.

[@VintageWatchServices]

@@garyboyle695 Oh yes, they're the best at marketing...

[@johnjenin3279]

Hi maam, I think Mr Stian is about to buy a new tool...again...oops wrong channel.

[@jasonsummit1885]

Broken mainspring?

[@user-te4bz2ji8t]

If you were changing a car tyre I’d watch , it’s the voice always the voice .🤭

[@VintageWatchServices]

😊👍

[@vjsjwiduxhshjfhdiiwk6717]

Thanks for watching your video. I want to know where are you from?

[@VintageWatchServices]

I'm from Norway

[@vjsjwiduxhshjfhdiiwk6717]

@@VintageWatchServices Is English the official language of Norway?

[@VintageWatchServices]

No 😆

[@vjsjwiduxhshjfhdiiwk6717]

@@VintageWatchServices Is it true that Norwegians are good at English even though it is not their native language?

[@VintageWatchServices]

​@@vjsjwiduxhshjfhdiiwk6717Yes, Norway is a small country with a small cultural base, so we know we'll have to learn other languages. You'll see that same pattern with many small countries

[@cokemachine5510]

8:48 ha

[@aagevaksdal]

God påske der borte in der Schweitz! 🥂🙂

[@VintageWatchServices]

I like måte!

[@TheClockwise770]

Well what else can it do 😂 I personally prefer Omega

[@user-hu8bn2dm3n]

من فضلك عندي ساعة pierpont ميكانيكية نسائية قديمة وهي بحالة جيدة وعندي ساعة Sndoz قديمة رجالية خدش بسيط بالميناء ولكنها تعمل بشكل جيد وساعة sirgint تعمل بشكل جيد اريد بيعهم وساعة ام صليب قديمة يلزمها اصلاح بسيط وايضا اريد بيعها

[@steveblake8766]

thumbs uP

[@cgrant4520]

Time is a dead god Thoth 🌷🌑👍 Rest in the Good News 🌹 Okay bye

[@AdlerGordon]

Summoning the devil if you dropped a part on the floor? You could do that, I suppose, but you might regret it if you find the missing part between your toes in a month's time.

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂👍

[@HanstheTraffer]

Rolex is a division of Timex?

[@VintageWatchServices]

😂👍

[@shanejones7331]

I think it might be the hack

[@pipodorologio1648]

is it me or is the video quality a bit less then usual?

[@VintageWatchServices]

My top camera footage was largely lost

[@pipodorologio1648]

@@VintageWatchServicessorry to hear that...

[@davidjacobs8558]

I'm pretty sure Jubilee is not of English origin, but Biblical term. therefore I doubt if other European nations would not have used Jubilee or relative terms.

[@anthonycaryl1079]

My guess, its broken (sorry)

[@Tape_Recorder]

First

[@stephenoconnell6255]

What's happened to this channel

[@VintageWatchServices]

New video coming tomorrow 😉

[@daffyduxxx]

I notice you put the movement on the timegrapher, before you add the date wheel etc. Does the addition of the date wheel and it's associated items, affect the timegrapher reading at all?

[@VintageWatchServices]

No, it shouldn't have any significant impact if there are no issues with the date parts.

[@daffyduxxx]

Thank you for you quick reply. By the way, your daughter's "bad fish" was brilliant

[@VintageWatchServices]

​@@daffyduxxxYeah, I thought it was hilarious also 😂