Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines

[@francescodegregorio2824]

First time I see people being more afraid of a cure than the actual virus

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Anti Science Anti Vaccine Conspiracy hypothesis are spreading like wildfire on the internet

[@mscardioqueen]

The vaccines are not a cure.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

@@justacat.1428 the vaccine should be mandatory

[@syedkhadri1623]

First time ??? Ahem .. antivax groups

[@StarryNightGazing]

@@trader2137 I'd be interested to read about it can u link please

[@orange-one]

props to that mayor though for wanting the best for his people and having change of mind when he realized he's wrong

[@starshipearth9178]

Exactly a sign of good leadership and a good attitude

[@ridhamh2966]

i like that type of people. its amazing

[@kkevus]

@Brian Brauchler thats so true and accounts not only for science but for political communication too as far as I see it

[@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse]

Well, unfortunately he now has a good chance of being seen as a weak leader because he switched positions. Human psychology, unfortunately, does not lend itself to electing actual good leaders in a democracy. Actual good leaders will sometimes do something you don't like because their decision is bad but the one doing the least damage. That's not going to be popular. Sometimes new information emerges and people will resent having to switch gears. That's why I find it so absolutely vital for politicians to communicate to the people exactly on what basis they made their controversial or disliked decisions and that didn't happen in Switzerland, where I live, and many other nations. And on that basis, mistrust grows and when the knowledge has grown and the understanding of what does and does not help is better, people will no longer follow your new rules because you've crapped on your credibility... Perhaps this is just me because I'm autistic but I would have preferred it if they had come out from the beginning and said "Listen, we are being given very bad estimations from the experts about this new virus right now. We will buckle down with temporary, very strong measures to get a clearer picture. Expect us to come back in a month and either double down or do something completely different." I would have preferred this. It would have given me confidence that the leadership actually is on our side. I have no idea whether that would work for the majority of neurotypical people though.

[@amateruss]

Exactly. Most of them would never admit they were wrong and would go on with what they think is right.

[@akshayrathore2882]

Good on mayor for accepting the facts when educated about it. Some people will double down instead of admitting they were wrong.

[@steveburton5825]

He's still a lying scumbag as if you read the email he sent, he said he always planned on accepting J&J when live on camera, he said he wasn't accepting anything but the best.

[@rosemcommm]

Especially an old white guy.

[@NoFutureForG0uda]

u mean some past us president for instance?

[@donaldli4755]

I mean if it’s not for this video I wouldn’t know either. Kudos for who ever that overcomplicates this numbers for us.

[@ronnie9891]

OK BUT WHAT ABOUT the conspiracy videos i saw back in 2005 (when msn was still around) that said they will create a MAN MADE VIRUS and then roll out VACCINES all for hidden agendas HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT ?????

[@iamcristinea9358]

This is what you call proper explanation of the vaccine efficacy statistics.

[@TheKwod]

The efficacy rates of vaccines are ZERO, although that's from the pov of health, from the pov of profit generation they're outstanding as they generate huge profits from vaccine sales and ongoing pharmaceutical usage after vaccine injury. Read "tobacco science and the thimerosal scandal" for horrifying truths about these big pharma grubs. Merck knowingly killed 120 000 Americans with their deadly headache pill.

[@CodyCLI]

@@TheKwod Go take your meds, you sound coocoo for coco puffs.

[@TheKwod]

@@CodyCLI I have an IQ over 140, I've studied philosophy and science for over 15yrs, bought and read over 100 books on philosophy, science, history etc. I've also probably read over 10000 articles over the yrs.

[@commandercostas]

@@TheKwod Do you watch Rick and Morty?

[@tfishappeningxd5915]

@@TheKwod "bro please trust me"

[@pikapika13]

Whoever framed how to tell this educational story in seven minutes deserves praise. If that team sees this, well done!

[@Xavier_Renegade_Angel]

Sputnik V is at 50% lol

[@omeee]

@@Xavier_Renegade_Angel source? Your hate?

[@SK-nh9gh]

Agreed, amazing video! There's still a small mistake in it. At 2:40 she says that the efficacy says how much less likely a person is to get COVID 19 "each time they are exposed to" the virus. The whole point of the video is that this is not the case, because the efficacy number only makes sense in the context of the specific study it was derived from. They were x percent less likely to get COVID 19 "over the course of the study". These kind of "linguistic inaccuracies" are unfortunately exactly the reason why there is so much confusion.

[@Banishedsoulsofficial]

It's lies. You'll still get covid it just reprogram your immune system to fight it (and all other viruses) differently. It's a retrovirus not a vaccine. Genetic manipulation is pure evil

[@NavjotSingh-xb8cn]

Actually an average person is now dumber. You/we all should have this info already and vid could have been summarises in 3 mins.

[@UniquelyClaire]

This is literally the first time that I'm hearing about this. Why isn't this being put on the news? I don't understand.

[@portigoza]

right??!!!!

[@zlo8389]

To answer your question honestly, you aren't hearing about this because people like the 95% and 94% numbers they are hearing about Pfizer and Moderna. If those percentages are going to convince someone to make a vaccine appointment then great. The only way to convince people the J&J is also a great vaccine is to remind them that it was tested with more aggressive strains and at a time during the pandemic when we had more cases per day than when the two mRNA vaccines were tested. But if we start talking about that, then people will put it together that the other two vaccines might not have such high efficacy rates if they were tested today, and those high efficacy numbers are the only way to get those people to get the vaccine. Bottom line, all of the vaccines prevent hospitalization and death. Take the first available vaccine you can get and we can all get through this together.

[@matthewvillanueva4661]

they don’t want us to know the truth

[@imuurme]

@@matthewvillanueva4661 who is ''they''? and why not??

[@matthewvillanueva4661]

@@imuurme they is the news and why not? Who knows why not?

[@kevinparker2314]

Not sure why other news outlets aren't explaining this. This is important to know.

[@DougHinVA]

Answer: 'news' outlets have an ulterior motive and it is not to deliver the truth.

[@bullpro6308]

they love creating a fear theatre

[@Korovkin_Pavel]

@@jasonshin9004 No, they not. 162/8 = 20, so 100/20=5. 100-5=95. 95 percent of effectivnes. This effectivness does not change with the high number of cases or low. If the pfaiser vaccine was tested later. There would be not 162/8 but 1620/80.

[@Wolfen443]

The other outlets are in lock with the Fear Campaign getting people vaccinated in a rushed fashion. The Pandemic has been a boom for scamming since increasingly the results of tests, the actual cause of death of people, and over priced costs has been passed the taxpayers. There are reports of people who never took the tests receiving a positive results, some tests not 100 percent accurate, people dying for other reasons labeled pandemic casualties too. Also, some state officials have intentionally reduced the extent of the Pandemic (Florida) or exaggerated them (Northeast), for all the numbers that the media announces reduce 10 percent minimum.

[@MyName-bz4zn]

"News" outlets don't explain anything that doesn't support their preconcieved agenda. Same with global "warming".

[@2nywa2]

Vox is really good at designing infographics that make complex topics more digestible. I appreciate all the effort!

[@brutalmw583]

LOL really at dumbing down you mean?

[@gamingwithnicko1942]

You mean data visualisations

[@GyacoYu]

But how can you blame a mayor for comparing the vaccines when the entire nation is comparing vaccines lol The SinoVac has efficacy fate ranging from 51%-84% in various countries, yet US media exclusive says 51%. Pfizer/BNT and Moderna, however, never allowed raw data of each individual country to be released to public.

[@thedreadedsyntholbaby763]

vox is left wing

[@marouaouchen1589]

@@thedreadedsyntholbaby763 what do you mean

[@gabrielnegron5846]

Im tired of politicians playing science when they know nothing

[@pakistaniarebeggars3851]

Last year they were f*kicking hounding like dogs for vaccine and now when they are out they are like No, it has this that. It’s like abusing the same doctors and scientists whom we once praised as corona gripped the world

[@rodaxel7165]

I couldn't agree more.

[@OmniKingBey]

🤣💀

[@fxonevr]

Welcome to the world of Politics. Adventurer!

[@teammmx]

Have to vote them out.

[@jay5286]

Vox his done a better job at explaining vaccines than any major news outlet

[@ronnie9891]

OK BUT WHAT ABOUT the conspiracy videos i saw back in 2005 (when msn was still around) that said they will create a MAN MADE VIRUS and then roll out VACCINES all for hidden agendas HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT ?????

[@johnharrison8764]

They're funded by CNBC

[@victortang1015]

Best video explaining the differences in vaccines trials at 3:42 and also the objectives of mass vaccination.

[@departmentofpolice9776]

@JayZeeDoubleYou The joke being Vox made money; you did not.

[@coastmalone]

@@ronnie9891 it’s just explained by the fact that a pandemic happening some time in the future is quite likely, a vaccine being made against it is just as likely. Then you can put whatever conspiracy narrative you want on it

[@MarushDenchev]

Now broadcast this to any TV channels on any county and let's get this over with.

[@falilou_io]

it would be superb

[@roses.9181]

Too bad the biggest issue is lack of belief and trust in the media lol.

[@RK-ep8qy]

Informative calming information unfortunately doesn't sell

[@abrzgo]

If only life was that easy.

[@b3at2]

I chose the new technology of mRNA vaccines.

[@love.one.another]

J and J is no longer available in the USA. Providers are told to discard all remaining vials.

[@neomurice]

I think the problem is ultimately the education about these vaccines. The information needs to be transparent, clear, relatable, and easy to understand. This kind of video needs to be more accessible and shared around on common media so people understand.

[@francisdavidl.embradura6044]

Well if you think of that Government didn't do this like a regular like Giving us Seminar Or meeting about what vaccines for covid actually do.. because the GOVERNMENT more likely busy of Income ... Military Capabilities and any kind of problem .. they keep prioritizing The previous needs and problem instead of current situation.. they might be focused on Virus and vaccines.. but the government was more Focused on developing the counter more... That is why.. other people didn't know what a vaccines can do to help them .. and confused of numbers percentage... Because none of them where properly Explained.. and also being practical Food water and is the most needs of humans Including medicines but in other countries Money and financial is the problem that is why they refuse to Get vaccinated.. the cost of this.. and other branch of government who Manipulate at Corrupt the Funds.. making the vaccine difficult to distribute smoothly... Combination of Poorly Educated in vaccines capabilities, other people constantly corrupting poor peoples especially with Government officials hiding A true motives making everything even worse.. especially The people it self.. honestly.. Some of our people in community too arrogant, ignorant and a huge ego.. which make things difficult

[@davidwhittaker9128]

these were new vaccines that were rushed, there was very little data to share or be transparent about.

[@grenmoyo3968]

No its definitely more arrogance at this point. The info of this has been plastered EVERYWHERE. They just refuse to listen. There are actually people out there, who never stepped foot in a post graduate class, never stepped foot in a research institute and never conducted a clinical trial or anything. Yet will just stand right up to people who do and say they know as much or more than they do when their understanding is actually usually less than a highschool student.

[@lbarbato6425]

If this was shared more then that would take away a big chunk of news all over the world, not what the media’s all about lol.

[@davidwhittaker9128]

@@grenmoyo3968 and those same people bank on other people's ignorance when money and power is involved. History books are filled with prime examples.

[@Cohdiboi]

Public officials should not be making decisions about public health without a clear understanding of what they’re talking about

[@AlexH-nt1gg]

no, he should just fire his public health advisor or it could be a poltical move to attract attention to show his voters that he cares about them.

[@dr.inkwell1070]

Yeah, NOW people start questioning the people who effectively control our lives😂😂😂😂😢

[@JandCanO]

Honestly huge respect for the Mayor for backing down instead of the typical political move of dying on a hill for no reason.

[@StevoDesign]

Sort of. "We always intended to distribute the J&J vaccine...we just had enough at the moment." Riiiiiiiggghhht

[@GemsOfIndianRight]

The sad truth is that our "Developed World" didnt send a single dose or vial of vaccines to the developing world. Meanwhile India is vaccinating not only their own people but others too. The Video by "Startup Division" - "How India would vaccinate the entire world" really shows how far India is in terms of Vaccinating the world.

[@krane15]

Except he didn't back down. He was enlightened.

[@psychologienerd7546]

The real question is, why is nobody advertising the best vaccine out there: Moderna. Fizer is too expensive. AZ is a chimp virus with low effectiveness. Too much money and politics in this crisis.

[@danielong9170]

@@GemsOfIndianRight is the US obliged to help other countries?

[@zororat]

I was all for the vaccine for at least over 40s but why we were vaccinating children and teens for COVID given the cost benefit calculation, and risk of side effects that is clearly now a greater risk than the extremely low risk from the virus for that age group, I will just never understand why this was done and subsequently brushed under the rug

[@leonardofabbri7930]

cause it never was just about a virus and public health, genius

[@adanactnomew7085]

A politician changing their mind because they were wrong? How refreshing.

[@avatarmikephantom153]

He’s a good mayor.

[@nathanegbert977]

He didn't change his mind. He found what he said was wrong and then lied about about saying it.

[@JH-jk3nm]

@Meedeeuh Areliars uh oh, bot moment

[@markevelyn412]

A friend that I referred to her just received $7,050 profit after 10 days of investing....I became jealous.. lol 😂

[@markevelyn412]

1 4 8 4 2 0 0 5 3 9 4 🇺🇸

[@franco8flyline]

Salute to those who went through the clinical trials, got the placebo, then still passed away. It must have been so antagonising to be that close to a cure, and then on a 50:50 chance, still lost out on it. Your sacrifices will never be forgotten.

[@CharleneCTX]

I applied for the Pfizer trial. I was rejected because I was too low risk. The recruiter asked "are you SURE you aren't going to bars?" The Pfizer trial you had a 66% chance of getting the vaccine and 33% chance for the placebo.

[@theyredistortingyourrhythm.]

1st clue:vaccines take 7 - 12 yrs before public availability 0 virus International protests are forever increasing Millions AWAKE

[@CharleneCTX]

mRNA vaccines have been in development for 30 years. What changed is they finally got the funding they needed to get it to market.

[@deathm0100]

@@theyredistortingyourrhythm. lol this is not the 80s anymore buddy

[@GOLEG11]

Never will be forgotten.... nor they’ll be remembered...

[@skeletopedia3122]

"Statistics is the grammar of science." Shows how critical it is to understand the meaning of these numbers.

[@marshin7237]

I really like that analogy.

[@SD....]

Interesting that they say that but misinterpreted the meaning of the efficacy rate. The efficacy rate applies to the sample or population you're studying. Saying a vaccine reduces each person rate of getting COVID by 95% is incorrect. You can't assume it has a homogenous effect on each person that's vaccinated. There may be people with X quality/condition/gene that it produces much lower rate of protection for and for others it is 99.9% effective. This would be like rating the rate of miscarriages (~20%) and saying each woman's chance of having a miscarriage is 20%. That's not true because we know that the rate is higher for older women, for women who've previously miscarried, etc... But there are also other underlying factors at play that we're unaware of--these prevent us from knowing exactly what are any one women's chances of miscarrying. Similarly, there are likely some people for whom these vaccines are less effective, but we don't yet know what sets those people apart. To be fair, that doesn't undermine their thesis of this video. But there's a pinch of hypocrisy in there because they emphasize the importance of understanding statistics while themselves misunderstanding the statistics.

[@marshin7237]

@@SD.... so then what does it actually mean?

[@realsmollbean]

@@SD.... The only thing you didn’t talk about was the “gene” or whatever. Which is kinda the most important part of what you just said...

[@roses.9181]

Most beautiful words I’ve ever heard ❤️

[@ByronicLuke]

For the first time in history, the ineffectiveness of a medication is being blamed on those who have NOT taken it.

[@farqueueman]

keep taking those boosters bud lol

[@FOLIPE]

In the brazilian trials for Sinovac they didn't use random regular people, but medical professionals who were basically guaranteed to be exposed to the virus. Still, they found 100% protection against severe cases and hospitalizations.

[@courtneysmith9807]

Impressive!

[@jinwonlee1407]

Do you have a source for this? Not that I don't believe you I want to read about it.

[@martianbuilder5945]

I think it was the same with SinoVac too. Edit- top comment originally said AstraZenica

[@lucasquazar4589]

@@reggieangus5325 yeah... bill gates warned us about pandemics years ago but he evil!!!!!!!!!! just know that a good way of manipulating people is making a big villain that needs to be defeated

[@AelwynMr]

Yep. And SinoVac is much less efficacious than any of the vaccines presented in the video against mild disease. Basically, it looks like pretty much any vaccine will keep you safe from serious outcomes.

[@imCurveee]

This is literally a brilliant case study about why we need scientists in government.

[@krane15]

Like those scientist that make bullets and bombs? Thanks to scientist, man now has the power to obliterate the world. Should we thank them for that?

[@davidwebster5235]

@@krane15 you can expect to live beyond age 35 because of science.

[@haleya9410]

@@davidwebster5235 luuuul thanks for that comment

[@krane15]

@@davidwebster5235 I do. But what of your children, and their children? Ever hear of greenhouse gasses and the melting polar ice caps releasing all those lovely viruses into the atmosphere. If the rising coastline doesn't get them, the viruses will. Chemical warfare, biological warfare, nuclear warfare. For all the good science does, the destruction and devastation it leaves behind is far worse. Thing is, they're still at it. Likely in their laboratories cooking up microbes that kills people even as we speak. Science is a double-edged sword my friend.

[@krane15]

@Tee Better for who, those chosen few who go on to live in a bunker? Certainly not better for the masses.

[@a1exsand]

Please VOX redo this video in different languages. This is much needed info for other people that do not speak english. I wish i could play this for my dad who only speaks spanish.

[@jamesrocket5616]

I think subtitles will do the work

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

Redo the video? Um... you can suggest subtitles

[@Thunder777m]

most of the world's population don't have access or can afford any of these vaccines.

[@JungleJim737]

Tell him to learn English

[@a1exsand]

@@JungleJim737 my dad came at 15 years legally and started to work as a migrant worker as soon as he got here. He has no education whatsoever. He put the food you eat on your table. Stop being insensitive to the people that came to this country and had no choice but come in work to sustain their families.

[@heidimatthews2729]

Kudos to your team on the use of simple graphics to help communicate learning.

[@c.a.g.3130]

Lies are so much easier to believe when they come with pictures!

[@xilangoo]

@@c.a.g.3130 then show us your proofs with pictures and data from different sources and so we'll know why the video is a lie.

[@GyacoYu]

But how can you blame a mayor for comparing the vaccines when the entire nation is comparing vaccines lol The SinoVac has efficacy fate ranging from 51%-84% in various countries, yet US media exclusive says 51%. Pfizer/BNT and Moderna, however, never allowed raw data from each individual country to be released to public.

[@yashmeta]

I think these one of the most educational video regarding vaccine should be dubbed in all the possible language to spread awareness

[@FrozenCappuccino]

I hope VOX read this

[@Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam]

Why do yall watch vox?

[@LukeSumIpsePatremTe]

@The Underdog Spanish und Germans don't like subtitles. But smaller language groups often do prefer subtitles to dubbing. I know I do.

[@disproportionateaponogento3336]

before dubbing the video, the americans should send their excess vaccines over to their allies that desperately need them :)

[@paulcic1771]

I would love to send this to my mother but she doesn't know english that well.

[@macclesfieldman]

Best explanation I have seen so far on vaccines. My goodness. This should be shown everywhere.

[@lazlow9757]

I agree

[@Banishedsoulsofficial]

But it's not really a vaccine it's a retrovirus the overwrites your immune system. Genetic manipulation

[@Supremax67]

Except 1 problem. Why not have an independent study as the original numbers are unreliable? What's the reason for holding up an independent study?

[@macclesfieldman]

@@Supremax67 and it is not about reliability, it is about the timing. Wait a bit and independent studies will appear soon, maybe in a couple of months

[@Supremax67]

@@macclesfieldman -- K. A couple of months. It's not like the results are urgent, or anyone is dying or anything.

[@skyrimisntforthenords6567]

I got the Johnson vaccine two days ago, I was a bit worried that it wasn't as good as the Pfizer and biontech , but this video cleared it up for me!

[@GRAITOM]

How old are you and how did you feel after the shot? I work in manufacturing and worry I wouldn't be able to work if it's has bad side effects.

[@ParadiseQ]

It is all about the different trials. Sometimes numbers can be confusing but as scientists they have to tell the numbers they really get. Thanks to scientists we can end this up eventually.

[@kimberlyd7394]

Same here! I got mine last week and was worried when someone in the medical field tried to tell me JJ vaccine "didn't work..." I feel better after watching this video though!

[@chardeman59]

@@GRAITOM I got the Johnson vaccine 2 days ago, and I've had no side effects, not even a sore spot in my arm. I'm 73.

[@RE4PER]

@@GRAITOM It really depends on the person. I got both Pfizer vaccines and had very few side effects. Just a headache and some fatigue but that was about it. Oh and I'm 21 btw.

[@jry_hrn4775]

J&J is going to really enjoy this video.

[@infotainmentchannel1800]

*Indian made Covaxin 81% but western media will never show you this*

[@canadiantaxpayer2810]

@@infotainmentchannel1800 who asked?

[@dsofe4879]

@@infotainmentchannel1800 maybe because it's not available here...?

[@ccccc9779]

@@infotainmentchannel1800 yeah that's why y'all are burning bodies on the streets now

[@topethYt]

Sputnik V is dancing too.

[@Vox]

Hi all, we see your comments about adding captions in other languages and we hear you loud and clear! We've now added professional translations for Spanish, Portuguese, and Hindi. You can access them by hitting the cog icon > subtitles/CC > and selecting the language of your choice. Unfortunately since KZbin discontinued the community translation tool last fall we haven't been able to accept translations from viewers, but we're looking into ways to fill this gap. For now, our goal is to hire professional translators where we can. We welcome your thoughts and feedback on how we can improve this process and we want to know: which language translations would be the most important to you? Thanks - The Vox Video team

[@monkeyshk7349]

Appreciate it Vox. If captions are ever added for the Chinese viewers, please prioritize Traditional Chinese over its simplified counterpart, as it means a lot for the preservation of cultural standard of the Chinese language.

[@violetunicorn9510]

Ok 👍🏻

[@shinenjob465]

If you looking for an English-Russian translator, I'll be right here 🙂

[@itsnachikethahere]

Good work Vox, thanks.

[@alexleibovici4834]

@@monkeyshk7349 > please prioritize Traditional Chinese over its simplified counterpart, as it means a lot for the preservation of cultural standard of the Chinese language Are we in a situation where the preservation of a cultural standard has some kind of a priority ???

[@BethJehovah]

100% against hospitalization and death. They should of said this from go.

[@reedwilke4683]

BIG FACTS! Don’t care which vaccine it is we just need to help stop the hospitalization and deaths

[@kallekallessons]

The people making the vaccines aren't really experts in pedagogy, they're just good at what they do in the labs I guess.

[@whitsundaydreamingaustralia]

They have said this all along.

[@Inuwoodx]

So, you are also one of those people that did not know what a vaccine was, before the pandemic?

[@aaronalba8235]

@@kallekallessons I use to work in a lab and this is very true. The researchers are the experts we just apply their research to solve the problem and call it a day.

[@Dabichota]

I'm from Mexico and most of my family don't speak english. I hope that you could upload the Spanish subtitles so I can show them this and they can understand. There's a lot of misinformation around COVID-19 here, and you are teaching us, a lot. Excellent video, as always.

[@Queeshandle]

Agree

[@lossimpson1333]

traduce el video y explicaselo a tu familia, no seas pendejo

[@jamiecruz3474]

@@lossimpson1333 hahaha

[@C_A_I_N_N]

I agree and I applaud you for from the sound of it translating for your family! 😁👍 parking many people only care about hearing the headlines and don't actually care about listening to the in-depth Nitty Gritty science details so good on you

[@C_A_I_N_N]

@@gordongoodman8342 if you're serious then then at least you'll be a good demonstration of natural selection weeding out those who won't survive...

[@MPK_K1NG]

66% is better then 0% that major or whatever is tripping

[@luckyapple2655]

The death rate from Convid itself is merely 0,1-0,3 %

[@thepittstop]

@@luckyapple2655 those that have permanent health effects is high though

[@TheYogeshPerpective]

@@thepittstop do the math 99% survival rate. Vaccine 66% effective for 0.2% chance of risk.

[@thepittstop]

@@TheYogeshPerpective that's not how the vaccine works...

[@TheYogeshPerpective]

@@thepittstop Vaccine works for short period of time how many times people have to get vaccinated ? It is not a cure 😂 our body's immune system is cure.

[@saishah1]

This is what responsible journalism looks like. Thank you for breaking this down and making it easily understandable.

[@OPERATOR-oq1le]

It’s a video on KZbin

[@lnsluu]

@@OPERATOR-oq1le 😭😂

[@Sujay95]

@@OPERATOR-oq1le So? Journalism can't be done in a video format?

[@OPERATOR-oq1le]

@@Sujay95 journalism hahahahahahaha

[@Sujay95]

@@OPERATOR-oq1le oh wait I just noticed your pfp. Makes sense now.

[@njsfer]

Props to whoever was involved in the making of this video. It should've been translated to every language and broadcasted on every tv channel, in all countries of the world.

[@willp4623]

@The Hot Box Tell me lies tell me lies tell me sweet little lies

[@private6549]

@aaa aaaowski There may be different variants to the virus but that isn't any reason not to take the vaccines.

[@numbdun6472]

@aaa aaaowski but didn't this video already proved how Johnson and Johnson vaccines already defeated new strains? 🤔

[@johnd8971]

@aaa aaaowski it does nothing of the sort - it simply explains what is meant by the numbers, that the numbers may not be directly comparable, and that the most quoted number may not in fact be the best measure anyway. How effective the vaccines are against variants is yet to be determined in many cases; its been shown that some vaccines are not as effective in terms of immune response, but in terms of preventing serious disease, transmission, etc its a little unclear, but is obvious is that there is some crossover and that is better than no vaccine at all. This is an excellent video which clearly explains the terms for laypeople, and has nothing to do with "putting money into the pockets of big pharma" or any other nonsense.

[@notjhoan]

I feel for the poor souls that get their information from Vox of all places. How lazy could you possibly be to get your information from this sad excuse of a source.

[@flashbotai262]

that Mayor is nice, he understood his mistake and told the proper importance

[@Gyrannon]

What you thought you said: That city/state official is nice. What you actually said: That military officer is nice. Should look up what "Major" is.

[@flashbotai262]

@@Gyrannon 🤣sorry, corrected

[@aishahshamsul8642]

Yeah but initially he publicly rejected J&J vaccines stocks, saying the other two brands are the best. Then later posted that the only reason they rejected the vaccines are due to abundance of stocks and not his misunderstanding.

[@SuAva]

@Meedeeuh Areliars Thank you for that great display of intelligence.

[@ErikID142]

You also need to account for the possibility that he understands the science but also understands that his constituents don't understand the science.

[@peterdisgusting]

The vaccine doesn't stop transmission

[@ajthereptile]

You re partly correct. While they don’t completely stop you getting infected, they do reduce the chance of actually catching it.

[@juliuscaesar894]

For those that died taking the placebo, I want to thank you and your family. Your sacrifice has been noted, honored and truly appreciated may you rest in peace o protector of the human species.

[@spacetoast7783]

Does it count as a sacrifice if you don't know you're doing it?

[@juliuscaesar894]

@@spacetoast7783 did you know all the soldiers that fought in ww1 ww2?

[@spacetoast7783]

@@juliuscaesar894 Yes, I knew every single one of them. What is your point?

[@bestbeast6368]

@@spacetoast7783 how tf is possible to not know what are you doing if you sign up for the trials of a vaccine? Even if they give you the real one you can still have secondary effects that can lead you to death so in whatever case you KNOW what you get into.

[@Wheendi]

Placebo means that you were not given a shot, or given a shot that contained no effect. Participants wouldn't know whether they received the shot or not. But prior to signing up for the experiment they were informed that they will be randomly assigned. Both having received the placebo and the shot have their own dangers. While the vaccine was being studied, there were unknown side effects that researchers were not aware of, thus those who received the shot were also risking their lives. It also wouldn't be correct to say that those who received the placebo died from it, because they actually died from contracting COVID in the community and not having received a vaccine to protect them from it. No one has been purposely been infected with COVID in any of those vaccine trials.

[@jtomwoo]

I knew this from other sources but Vox has done an awesome job with illustrations explaining it in layman's terms. It should be linked at public health websites.

[@Feex92]

My thoughts exactly

[@spacetoast7783]

@Gaussianform Pfizer, moderna, J&J...

[@mokorily5022]

Vox study obsolete! ... latest US data show for the Pfizer and Moderna shots: 396 (7%) people with breakthrough infections were known to be hospitalized and 74 (1%) died.

[@swisserty]

hahaaha that placebo group is so dark.. "Hey you're vacinaated, go live your life!!" *Dies in hospital*

[@privatedaNiel]

that's exactly what caught my eye, too, it's just kinda cruel tbh

[@Reactordrone]

I guess it's a case of selecting twice the number of people than you have vaccine for rather than withholding vaccine from half the group.

[@odddellarobbia4]

soul for a soul

[@Minimal444]

I am pretty sure before getting any vaccine they sign a paper that states "You might get a placebo, not an actual vaccine".

[@canadaemu]

@@privatedaNiel These trials are subject to very high ethical standards. The volunteers for these trials would be made to understand exactly the sort of risk they were taking when signing up for it. I don't like to glorify people too much, but those people might as well be heroes. They understood what they were going in for, and some paid for it with their lives, so that the rest of us could return to a normal life. Of course, one could always sign up saying "hey, if I'm not in the placebo group, I get my vaccine, cool", but those aren't mutually exclusive positions. That risk will always exist.

[@samsiulepa4333]

I swear when I did science in school the teacher always used to drill into our heads "Make sure the variables are equal in each trial." Then again, it's probably not ethical to lock people alone in controlled rooms, vaccinate them, and spray covid in there .

[@joshuagreen8995]

Right that's why some efficacy trials are so difficult because they may take years before we see individuals reach the primary endpoint in the study. Say for example the goal is to see if a medicine prevents heart attacks. The study actually couldn't and shouldn't prevent an individual from choosing to exercise and live a healthy life, just as it shouldn't prevent someone from doing the opposite. However, the study should then mention if individuals were interviewed and rated their levels of activity for better points of comparison. As the goal is to make the variables as similar as possible. I do love that there's systematic review of health trials that look at and evaluate if it's ethical to continue placebo groups in the study. Basically for some trials, if there's significantly better health outcomes in the treatment group, there's a potential that the placebo group will be given the treatment to start improving their health.

[@methcat5005]

A small price for salvation

[@Ecceptor]

with money you can.

[@cyber1991]

The variables are not equal in each clinical trials because they are conducted in different countries. Countries with high density population like Indonesia will get infected more simply because they live closer together. It doesn't mean they are less effective. Sparsely populated country with huge land like USA will do well in clinical trials due to huge land and not vaccine.

[@rap3208]

@@cyber1991 pfizer and moderna also tested their vaccines when the virus is at the bottom end of the curve vs J & J and testing it at the peak of the pandemic. Different conditions, different results. Pfizer. Pfizer and moderna tested it with the general population, Brazil tested sinovac on medical workers who were exposed 24/7 to the virus. Again, different conditions make different results. That is what this video is trying to explain.

[@astronomer83]

PLEASE add Spanish captions to this video! I've tried so hard to explain to people here (Mexico) why it doesn't matter which vaccine they get and that they should get vaccinated at the earliest opportunity, but some people is so afraid that they don't listen! This video explains it very clearly and I think would be very useful!

[@Vox]

Hi René, you should be able to watch with Spanish captions now. Thank you for the note!

[@astronomer83]

@@Vox Oh, wow, this is great! Thank you very much for listening! 😎

[@santiagodelteide2860]

@@Vox I am not in need of spanish translation personally, but checking right now there is only "English (auto-generated)" option there. Is it really working? Edit: everything is working already, no need to point that out

[@user-jf7rk9vu4s]

@@santiagodelteide2860 I have mine working, must be a problem on your side

[@HelgaCavoli]

@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ not yet.

[@BeCuriousarabi]

We thank you for the support and encouragement

[@firstnamelastname4249]

Don't mention it

[@monke6122]

Fun fact it has a very low chance of killing grown adults is low

[@jacobjohnson6766]

Jonas Salk the doctor who created the polio vaccine was a supporter of eugenics! He said vaccines could be used to create cancers and test on humans mrna. Don't believe me??? Go read his book THE SURVIVAL OF THE WISEST! We have been conditioned to believe vaccines are good when in all actuality we are being tested on like guinea pigs. Go read the book and will be more than happy to give citations upon your request.

[@bobbieneves806]

🐑🐑🐑 🙄

[@TheBleachedazn]

@@jacobjohnson6766 Please cite them, and they have to be up to date and published in a peer-reviewed journal, not a book of a collection of empty op eds by a single brain.

[@joco4488]

They don't talk about the side effect rates and severity of the vaccines. From what I hear from the military, is the mRNA have have cause a lot of other health issues.

[@dylansteyn8862]

This kind of educational videos about the vaccines should be aired all over the world and over mass media so that we can finally not be so afraid of the vaccine and collectively have a positive attitude towards getting it and beating this pandemic

[@wilfordfootball79]

I never get vaccine never will I don't trust it

[@bigglyguy8429]

They just outright stated that they are not worried about infections or transmission, just the symptoms. That is the perfect storm for ineffective vaccine syndrome.

[@getl0st]

The only infectious disease on this planet is your infectious stupidity.......

[@XD-te6vj]

@@wilfordfootball79 ummm, even your name here presents you with a problem...good luck entering ANY other country, let alone boarding a plane,

[@collinmike5022]

@@XD-te6vj he does not even have money to go out lol

[@jolienberinghs1338]

I'm so sad that our country doesn't explain this. KZbin explains it better. Thank you.

[@antman7673]

This isn’t KZbin, this is Channel on KZbin explaining it.

[@ess4193]

@@antman7673 how does it feel to be the most intelligent person on earth?

[@Alex-cz4dy]

@@ess4193 i think it feels very good

[@kellymccain3403]

@@antman7673........ Without KZbin there would be no channel.

[@comandanteej]

Some of it is true, other parts are very far from reality. It says for instance "95% less likely [to get infected] EACH TIME THEY ARE EXPOSED TO COVID-19". This is not how the immune system works. On the contrary, if you were exposed once but didn't get infected because you are already immunized, you have EVEN LESS chance to get infected next time.

[@__dane__]

Shoutout to all the hard work of scientists over this last year. We really take their work for granted.

[@THEGOODLIFE-wl3xu]

Yea, it's pretty hard to get all those tiktok videos finished...

[@starburst2448]

@I am Phil McCrevice And I Love Big Brother ?

[@starburst2448]

@I am Phil McCrevice And I Love Big Brother okay.

[@realcupojoe]

@@gordongoodman8342 My heart goes out to you and others like you who have somehow begun believing that the world is somehow corrupt enough to orchestrate some giant scheme against you.

[@russellmania5349]

@@realcupojoe experimental gene therapy

[@amrinton]

then why not allow persons from abroad vaccinated with non-american brands, like from sinovac, to enter the US?

[@MrHarryHumper]

politics

[@jasleen7776]

@@MrHarryHumper exactly

[@yothiga]

Sinovac is not effective,tho. My country mainly use Sinovac in the beginning and now we have to find alternatives option because when they went to check after 2 doses, the immunity is low or not appear at all.

[@Sleepyhead101]

you forgot about the Astra Zeneca vaccine

[@Minchya]

Chinese will not present their data, basically saying you don't need to know, trust us. No thanks !!!

[@jeffreyhamilton5304]

This was a perfect explanation. Governments need to learn from this... This is how you communicate with the public...

[@ShredderTheGreat]

But they wont :D

[@sujithkumar804]

Govts busy in selling their own vaccine and minting money

[@9xtryhx230]

Anarchism-capitalist here - the gov shouldn’t exist at all. We can see that private companies are more efficient than a slousy tyrannical government ☺️

[@_o_o_x]

This didn’t actually provide any substantial information or evidence

[@cypher_7172]

@@9xtryhx230 I feel like Anarchism would only work if everybody was willing to work with each other and be nice

[@nickyinprogress4873]

Let's not forget the time people thought A&W's third pounder burgers had less meat than McD's quarter pounders. Numbers are hard for some people.

[@orion-n]

I don't think this was 100% the case. It's also that A&W is associated with smaller drier burgers so you wouldn't really want a thick patty just by association alone. I'm not fond of Mcdonald's either so might not be a good judge.

[@paulgentile1024]

Well numbers must be very hard for Johnson & Johnson........ Not a great track record on their products.... And their baby powder didn't turn out too well did it.. 25 years later.. bingo

[@ragnarocking]

@@paulgentile1024 I don't know what this has to do with anything. This is just purely slander.

[@paulgentile1024]

@@ragnarocking if you can't get baby powder right I wouldn't trust their vaccine... That's why they're being sued for mucho 💰..put it together and you'll figure it out

[@rodgeraarons8997]

5 out of 4 people have problems with math.

[@AashimGupta15]

Brilliant as always. No one does numbers and graphs like Vox.

[@AashimGupta15]

@Serpent King why do you think we can't trust them? Vox does a good job with researching their content.

[@livery955]

@Serpent King Imagine trusting Fox News and Qanon

[@holdencawffle626]

check out cavanagh connor and company

[@juan3450]

I prefer the onion news network

[@bubbaowww590]

You can't believe anything Vox tells you! I heard that on a different KZbin channel, and I believed it! Hm wait a sec

[@justagirlsd3000]

This video should be on the television as a PSA during every single commercial break!!!!

+10000000000000000

[@derprinzz2973]

this video should be shared in Facebooks group

[@noname...7774]

strongly agree

[@theamazinghaole2384]

Learn something everyday. I have always thought it was to be 100% immunized. My nurse sister even says that. I now understand that is to prevent serious illness. It now makes sense why you get the flu shot. You might get sick but less likely to be extremely sick.

[@AaaaNinja]

Well you still might avoid getting sick at all from having the vaccine. Every time you're exposed, it's a roll of the dice. The vaccine DOES improve the odds in your favor. That'll knock the wind out of its ability to spread for sure. No more exponential growth! Yeah I heard that if you cease getting the flu shot in consecutive years the next flu you get might be a doozy.

[@Frontline_view_kaiser]

Most vaccines prevent sickness entirely. Even Flu shots. The reason why you can still get the flu is because there's a lot of different mutations of the flu and every flu shot only protects you against a certain spectrum of mutations.

[@eeeguba432]

Its basically training for your immune system

[@writerpatrick]

Vaccines do tend to weaken with time, so your chances can increase as time goes by. That's why there's boosters.

[@daraka1754]

Everything over 90% is enough.

[@SqueamishNerd]

This is a really good and important video, and I feel like it needs subtitles in as many languages as possible. I could've contributed with a Swedish translation, but the option to contribute with translation was apparently removed from KZbin in September 2020.

[@plunksong]

boost this

[@n.m8827]

Agreed!

[@ThatMysteriousguy123]

Thanks for clearing this up Vox - I was actually talking to a co-worker about this today and you have admittedly corrected me (something some people can't accept). Thank you for the informational video, as always.

[@japhips]

Somebody posted great post: For those vaccine lovers. COVID-19 Vaccine: Relative versus Absolute Efficacy COVID-19 vaccine trials appear to have caused huge confusion. Let’s clear this up. People genuinely appear to believe that the COVID-19 vaccines have undergone clinical trials and have been proven to be both safe and effective. That belief is simply wrong. Understand the Difference between Relative Efficacy vs. Absolute Efficacy Everyone was thoroughly impressed with the 95% effective claim. However, this was based upon relative risk reduction. That is the declared percentage difference between the vaccinated group’s 8/18310 chance (0.044%) of developing COVID-19 against a 162/18319 (0.884%) chance of COVID-19 symptoms without the vaccine. It should be noted this only refers to an alleged reduction of COVID 19 symptoms among those who have the virus. The tested endpoints do not demonstrate that the vaccine will either reduce the spread of infection or save lives. It should also be noted that these figures suggest the threat from COVID-19 is vanishingly small. Using Pfizer’s figures, the relative risk reduction = 100 [1 - (0.044/0.884)]. Which is 95%. Voila! This sounds fantastic and is a much better marketing strategy than reporting the absolute risk reduction. The absolute risk of developing COVID-19 symptoms without the vaccine is supposedly 0.884% and with the vaccine 0.044%. In absolute terms, the effectiveness of the vaccine is (0.884 - 0.044 = 0.84%). Would you consider 0.84% a decent 'efficacy' ? Oh, I know, everyone hates math... BUT 0.84% is barely a Perceptible “Efficacy”! The most important human phase of CV-19 vaccine trials just begun.

[@truthteller9713]

Direct warnings No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, solely due to the manufacturer's failure to provide direct warnings to the injured party (or the injured party's legal representative) of the potential dangers resulting from the administration of the vaccine manufactured by the manufacturer. Unavoidable adverse side effects; warnings (1) No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.

[@georgebalan6201]

@@truthteller9713 If you think that vaccine companies could be sued willy nilly, then why do you think that they'd invest billions of dollars and invest hundreds of the best scientists and doctors from across the world to make it?

[@alexng4]

i'm a guy..i like larger numbers...it makes me fell more manly..so Pzifer and Moderna is better

[@TheBleachedazn]

@@truthteller9713 To be fair, if it was so simple as to file class-action lawsuits against a drug or pharmaceutical company to make a drug that wasn't 100% effective with 0 side-effects, absolutely no new drugs or therapies would ever be developed by anyone. This is the same reason why there are many, many protections in place for professionals such as your dentist or your primary care physician that prevent them from being liable, to a degree, for harms they may have inadvertently caused to you during a procedure or from prescribing you a certain medication. I think we are all on the same page as far as how absolutely necessary the effectiveness and relative harmlessness of a vaccine MUST be to be acceptable for public distribution, however. You cannot **** it up for everyone and one would have to assume the companies know of the ramifications, in terms of PR and stock value alone, they would suffer if they didn't create a good product which is essential to get countries back onto their feet.

[@ramborhan2005]

Problem is people tend to focus more on the benefits than the risks of those vaccines. In many cases, discussions of the risks have been completely ignored. Both have to be considered at the same time, to find the right balance, and to see whether or not the benefits really outweigh the risks...

[@teammmx]

I got the Janssen/Johnson and Johnson vaccine. My husband got the Pfizer vaccine. Thanks for making this video for the world.

[@goatimus6676]

Lol your a 🐑 for sure

[@AdwinLauYuTan]

@@goatimus6676 Cthulu will always have my support.

[@ratmouse556]

@@goatimus6676 let me guess. You also think vaccines don't work just because someone on Facebook told you?

[@merco3626]

@@goatimus6676 and uve got the brain of a 🐑

[@goatimus6676]

@@merco3626 ooh nice comeback...took you long enough!!!

[@tonio0714]

Should really broadcast this in various languages imagine how many people can learn and be safe because of a 7 minute video

[@farmerx165]

YES EVERYONE MUST GET THE UNTESTED VACCINE IMMEDIATELY

[@UGNAvalon]

You do realize that “efficacy rate” automatically means “clinically tested with thousands of ppl” right?

[@Synthed]

@@farmerx165 holy cr*p what an unintelligent remark

[@adhitypratamairwanto5450]

@@Synthed indeed

[@rankedskywars]

@@farmerx165 how can you be so purposely ignorant

[@Iceman-gm1fu]

refreshing for mayor to backtrack. ideal situation is that he understood what efficacy meant from beginning, but nobody's perfect. tbh I didn't know either. great video

[@Korovkin_Pavel]

Lol, 162/8 = 20, so 100/20=5. 100-5=95. 95 percent of effectivnes. This effectivness does not change with the high number of cases or low. If the pfaiser vaccine was tested later. There would be not 162/8 but 1620/80, still 95%.

[@themightyant.]

Better than nothing, yet typical to backtrack and not admit error. We'd be in a much better position if leaders, who as humans are fallible, would own their mistakes instead of spinning tiresome excuses.

[@dalchemistt7]

@@Korovkin_Pavel I think you missed the point. They are talking about chances of someone's exposure to covid. If the trial were conducted when cases were less (as in case of Pfizer/Moderna), you are less likely to get in contact with someone who has covid and hence you have less chance of getting infected yourself. So the numbers for efficacy might change depending on when and where the trials are conducted as exposure to virus is the primary factor in getting covid.

[@cactustactics]

The problem is the simple message he put out at first was "the J&J vaccine is not good enough" and that's what people will have heard. It's spreading misinformation and honestly he has a responsibility to correct it and own his mistakes, to try and undo that damage. At the end of the day, people need to get vaccinated so there's greater immunity in the whole population, and his "no, only the best" statement is going to make people reluctant to take the J&J one - especially if his later statement doesn't directly address what he said, so it comes off like spin and makes people suspicious. Better to be honest

[@ice3753]

@@Korovkin_Pavel Those were for different strains. Watch the video again bro

[@fenrirx481]

FYI: The efficacy of vaccines from Pfizer slowly downgraded to around 60%.

[@gribbler1695]

Yes, against Omicron.

[@arem6038]

It is absolutely incredible how far we've come in science and medicine. We all owe a great deal of gratitude to the thousands of hard-working scientists and doctors who are helping us end this pandemic. So thankful.

[@KINGTHEBEAST]

Eww

[@davidwestwater1568]

And I'm thankful for the virus they made

[@theyredistortingyourrhythm130]

1st clue:vaccines take 7 - 12 yrs before public availabilty

[@richardreinhard8864]

and by the replies to your comment, the human race seems to be evolving into 2 distinct subspecies

[@arem6038]

@@richardreinhard8864 Finally a sensible comment and, yes, I couldn’t agree more! 😂

[@rohit_banga]

This should be a public service video translated and broadcasted across the world. Very educational and most essential...

[@psychologienerd7546]

The real question is, why is nobody advertising the best vaccine out there: Moderna. Fizer is too expensive. AZ is a chimp virus with low effectiveness. Too much money and politics in this crisis.

[@mr_slidey]

@@psychologienerd7546 Did you even watch the video?

[@someguynamedsomething9612]

@@mr_slidey bot, report

[@psychologienerd7546]

@@mr_slidey nope, not worth my time. I know the contents anyway. a very shallow analysis, thats why it gets views, one has to be shallow

[@someguynamedsomething9612]

@@Gasmanz it's a robot, already said this

[@TopFearless]

The problem nowadays(maybe always was like that idk) is that everyone is having an opinion but barely anyone did real research. Thanks for this video

[@srdjankovic]

Or people just don't trust the research because they are all funded by the lying government?

[@suqmaddiqq]

@@srdjankovic But not all of them are? Government funding doesn't necessarily mean the government drives the research in any way. I actually think it is in their least best interest to skew the research that will show them their best bet in how to handle the pandemic. Even if it's not in good intentions, they will become infamous for their misjudgements and I don't think they genuinely want that for themselves.

[@alfredorivera6290]

So, a research including 170 people is enough for the whole world to trust these numbers? Really? - These vaccines are being tested in us directly from the lab, does that even make sense to anyone here? No other trials, directly to humans. That's the first question we should ask about, why are you testing in humans first hand?

[@cj4840]

@@alfredorivera6290 yes. Indeed it is.

[@johnalfredtomenio6264]

Facts

[@TheAudio1]

BlackRock invests in Phizer. BlackRock owns Comcast. Comcast owns Vox. Vox promotes Phizer. Enough said.

[@MAT7OPS]

Just got the Johnson and Johnson and everyone is telling me I should’ve waited for another. But I know it doesn’t matter. Edit: As of May 6 I am fully vaccinated, if you read this please don’t reply or give any attention to anti vaxxers. Have a good day everyone :)

[@AP-ex6qz]

So proud of you for getting the vaccine. 40% of US population are AntiVaxxers

[@MAT7OPS]

@@AP-ex6qz a sad truth but I’m just happy to not be apart of percentage

[@ellionnaplays4846]

@Xander Lawrence my grandparents want me to get it tomorrow but it goes against my better judgement. I don’t know what to do

[@technikkeks4932]

@@ellionnaplays4846 if you think about how the vaccine is our only chance right now in ending this pandemic and we all want our lives back, I think you can't do wrong in getting it. I understand that it can be frightening but all vaccines that are available in your country are well tested and effective

[@coryz.872]

@@ellionnaplays4846 it would help if you had any basic understanding of the immune system. You can't even articulate what you fear about the vaccine.

[@jefft7978]

Wow rarely saw a video explaining this so well in the past months! Most of the time there's a few mistakes and people end up confused about the whole thing. Good job!

[@donnakuhl2419]

they explained nothing

[@plumpy_space_princess]

@Meedeeuh Areliars STAHP

[@rebeccaringler1265]

It’s MSM confusion. None of these are approved. All experimentation. But we are supposed to get them.

[@kaykay8262]

Aside from the original comment, you all are just miserable

[@jonathanrogers8514]

actually the vaccine manufacturers are suspiciously not releasing what efficacy rate refers too w/ the covid19 vaccine, and this video is making assumptions on what it means. but yes, it does explain what efficacy rate means in general

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Everyone, continue to wear your mask, continue to social distance, get your vaccine, we are almost there. The end of coronavirus is near but we can’t yet get complacent.

[@aussieboy4090]

IT WONT END TRUMP 2024

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

@@justacat.1428 not really what?

[@blueeyes6852]

@@justacat.1428 Rather than throwing out a negative statement, it'd be helpful as to knowing why you feel this way. I could say I don't like clouds. Wouldn't you want to know why. If nothing else, to simply finish a non-complete sentence. I read comments to see what others are thinking... Stay well! 😷 No hate here, just wondering.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

@@aussieboy4090 who knew anti science people were trump supporters

[@ankushds7018]

It's not near. Some say we'll have to live with it forever. Others suggest at the very earliest, it'll take 3 to 4 years.

[@gantfrost7749]

8 and 162? Seriously, talk a about a weak under-powered study. And not that the clinical trials were never finished. Worst shots ever invented, and the most dangerous.

[@pretzela318]

You just convinced me to not be picky about vaccines. Thank You!

[@truthteller9713]

Direct warnings No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, solely due to the manufacturer's failure to provide direct warnings to the injured party (or the injured party's legal representative) of the potential dangers resulting from the administration of the vaccine manufactured by the manufacturer. Unavoidable adverse side effects; warnings (1) No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.

[@kolpoxj5651]

@@truthteller9713 Yeah, and ? Everytime you buy something this kind of disclaimer is on the notice, do you know game companies can't be held accountable for potential injuries their games could cause ?

[@truthteller9713]

@@kolpoxj5651 are games being injected into babies , kids etc? Think about what you just said

[@kolpoxj5651]

@@truthteller9713 Well knowing there's been more game related death than vaccines... And all I'm saying is this disclaimer doesn't prove anything since everyone does it, if the first example didn't get through : you can't attack cigarettes companies if you get cancer can you ? You're just begging for conspiration at this point

[@blazers_1977]

Everyone needs a vaccine

[@Casablancasky]

Can you please add more languages to subtitles/closed captions so that this video can be shared around the world

[@psychologienerd7546]

The real question is, why is nobody advertising the best vaccine out there: Moderna. Fizer is too expensive. AZ is a chimp virus with low effectiveness. Too much money and politics in this crisis.

[@DemonNitrix]

@@psychologienerd7546 Bot.

[@nicholasdean3467]

I mean 66% is still really amazing. With flu shots only 40-60% depending on the year. 0:35

[@anubis8086]

I didn't know that, I always take my flu shot and (knock on wood) I haven't got a cold ever since, so 66% is great. Thank you

[@kevinyaucheekin1319]

Actually it could in a bad prediction go down as low as 10%. Yah norm is 40-60%.

[@masoncampbell971]

The fact it is proven effective against the variants is important too, because now countries with those variants can get one that is effective vs one that might be effective.

[@marleyhorne7580]

@@kevinyaucheekin1319 Yeah, the flu mutates too quickly, so you’ll never be able to get a vaccine with a very high efficacy rate.

[@yuhyuhtheindigo7085]

@@marleyhorne7580 I hear about a new covid mutation literally daily. Do you have any critical thinking skills at all? Or do you just say whatever “feels” right and then assume it’s the truth

[@c.518]

And ALL OF THEM give heart issues. Myocarditis

[@burnttoast385]

covid gives it too

[@KanishkaWijesekara]

You're the first channel that I am paying a subscription for. From the early days of Covid, the way you broke down complex subjects like R0 of a virus, how it spreads to this stupidly easy to understand video regarding vaccine efficacy , you are doing Gods work on KZbin! If it is possible, please use my contribution to pay for the addition of subtitles/captions of other common well spoken languages before you upload these PSA type videos! Thanks a million from the bottom of my

[@Vox]

Thanks Kanishka! We really took this feedback to heart. Since KZbin discontinued the community translations tool we've been exploring new ways to get our critical videos translated. Going forward our goal is to hire professional translators where we can so we can have translations ready at publish. Thank you for your support!

[@SafirAksel]

This is insanely important, yet why aren't more media, especially major TV news covering this?

[@Gromic2k]

@Berified In Germany, all major media portals have explained it. But people don't read it

[@ManDudeYeah]

Stop watching Fox.

[@isentient666]

Simps. That’s why.

[@spacetoast7783]

Major TV news shows only spend a minute or two on a topic at most.

[@aihope8350]

Because it's hogwash. It's like comparing SAT scores, taken between two different time periods. One could argue the lower score is caused by taking the test with a lot of people who scored higher (a stronger Covid strain) but seriously, 95% Vs 66%? and 50% is failing? What is this? Kindergarten? where everyone gets a medal for effort? Just take the one wealth white folks take: Pfizer

[@TheJugga21]

Thank you for highlighting how clinical trials are conducted, it is very easy for the layman to misunderstand what statistics are implying

[@sib923]

Meant to be conducted-rarely happens against TRUE pplacebo in vaccine world I'm afraid. Money talks. I'm away to watch the film Vaxxed 2

[@terencejay8845]

Compare this to the proper clinical trial period of 5-10 years before Approval.

[@GemsOfIndianRight]

WELP. ! On a side note! ! ! The sad truth is that our "Developed World" didnt send a single dose or vial of vaccines to the developing world. Meanwhile India is vaccinating not only their own people but others too. The Video by "Startup Division" - "How India would vaccinate the entire world" really shows how far India is in terms of Vaccinating the world.

[@krane15]

Likewise, its easy to mislead the layman on how effective something is or is not.

[@larsriedel8718]

@@terencejay8845 Clinical trial periods don't have to be this long. First they were less bureaucratic and on an other note because Covid-19 is so often you don't have to wait so long.

[@The_Timer_Guy]

5:49 I feel bad for the people who thought they got the vaccine, but it was a placebo, and then they died wondering why the vaccine might have not saved them. Even though it is sad, It is people like this who help save the world.

[@remindertostayhydrated602]

Remember to stay hydrated today everyone!

[@itsbeyondme5560]

Thanks

[@zeebradoom4774]

thanks

[@evansartroblox3911]

Thanks

[@dennisantony9685]

Thanks

[@jerrygil1965]

Thanks💜

[@Ghostpixel01]

The scary thing is Mayor Mike Duggen would have had this explained to him and went 'nah I don't care what sciencey explanation you have i still don't want it'.

[@Bas_Lightyear]

Poorly educated people in positions of power, and yet it’s the situation in multiple countries across the world. It’s like being back in school, the popular kids that can talk the talk get voted in

[@fredo3161]

The scary thing is people willing to inject anything into their bodies as long as fear convinces them to.

[@reavl6494]

wdym? he came out and said he was wrong

[@srij0n316]

he said he was wrong and said yes to the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.

[@RetractedPieces]

@@fredo3161 Haha sure like you eat those junk food to stay alive

[@IbrahimAli-vv3df]

Just one year before, we all were in awe with how the quarantine was coming along. Tables have turned.

[@bangscutter]

Quarantine is really like putting on a band aid. It's not realistic to keep living under quarantine forever. It's to buy time for vaccines to be developed.

[@Regel2008]

Quarantine is just a band aid dude.

[@ytt8998]

search: vaccine comparison result: why you can't compare vaccine

[@pastelab]

pretty great explanation

[@damurichannel]

Internet & NoVax just ruined the world

[@ayugoslav5554]

Say no to vaxx

[@adapixei836]

For real. As much as I'm shocked by the poor understanding and communication from politics all around the world, a lot of medias have done extremely well to vulgarize complex topics and help diffuse health education.

[@mn_yt]

@@ayugoslav5554 correction: say no to vaxx, say yes to *v a c c*

[@aussieboy4090]

BIDEN CANT WALK ON STAIRS

[@Oxidize]

Good educational video

[@obg_fresh]

Smart people 🤓

[@ozmanium9799]

Big brain

[@JP-dl1tg]

Vaccines have harmful ingredients such as baby cells, mercury, and so on. It’s not meant to reside in a humans body

[@TheBleachedazn]

@@JP-dl1tg No, they contain adjuvants which may or may not consist of involatile mercury derivatives that are incapable of causing the same chronic, deleterious effects of regular, purified liquid mercury. These adjuvants typically act to elicit an inflammatory response that "jumpstarts" your adaptive immune response into creating memory B and T cells which respond to the viral (in this case) antigens that are injected through the vaccine. Later on, your body retains these memory cells and is able to mount an even more effective and rapid response that essentially prevents the pathogen from colonizing your body effectively and causing severe damage to your tissues. Additionally, a lot of the mercury-based adjuvants have been phased out in favor of modern adjuvants with more effective ways of coaxing the human inflammatory response. None of these have been shown, in the hundreds of thousands of trials tested and billions of people administered on, to contain stem cells or directly harmful ingredients. The worst case usually results in an attentuated, live strain randomly genetically reverting from a non-infectious strain to one that can actually infect and spread from its host. However, this is rare, and the current COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any viruses, just the mRNA which produces spike proteins, which are harmless on their own and rapidly degraded by the body. Hope that clears some of it up. -Microbiology PhD student. Feel free to ask more questions and I'll try to answer as best I can.

[@TheBleachedazn]

@187bronco187 You should never trust any source blindly on its own. However, how science works is that results and conclusions drawn from scientific experiments and data that are published in peer-reviewed journals such as nature are eventually distilled by the media into digestible and more easily accessible forms for the lay-audience. Admittedly, Vox isn't known for its purely didactic journalism and is guilty, like most media including Fox and CNN, of pushing their opinions and agendas down your throat. That's why I suggest you look for their citations and read those for yourself. Educate yourself some more on what the science behind an mRNA vaccine is. Despite all the sh** I've just flung at Vox for not being the best journal, I have to say that the information that's being disseminated through the video on how the vaccine efficacy is determined is accurate (am a microbiology PhD student with free time). However, you shouldn't just take the word of an internet stranger either. Please look up the scientific journals and educate yourself. You owe that to yourself to make yourself smarter and more informed. Make sure those references are genuinely curated by professionals, as well. Good luck.

[@pansyyoung5429]

This certainly puts vaccine issues into perspective. Thank you for the clarity

[@pkj6684]

Some people: No

[@liner011f7]

@I am Phil McCrevice And I Love Big Brother Like with masks?

[@nyambura1253]

The best vaccine is the one you are offered.......Thank you for explaining in simple terms.

[@julianajoharis7641]

When the info about "efficacy rates" are being thrown around publicly without trying to educate to the public what it actually means.... its stressful to try to explain to people cause they tend to believe rumors. Thankyou for this vid!

[@kennymichaelalanya7134]

Efficacy rates drop at a faster rate each time the variants mutate. Eventually they'll be like the flu vaccines with an efficacy below 50%

[@JSkyGemini]

Sadly, "It's far easier to fool somebody than to convince them they've been fooled." ~ Mark Twain (rumoured) Whoever said it, they were correct.

[@johnbillson3767]

@@kennymichaelalanya7134 so what? boost up baby! make these corps richer while you get auto immune disease!!

[@slm0nw174]

higher efficacy rates slow down spread more so this video is partly wrong, although the rest is correct

[@rap3208]

@@kennymichaelalanya7134 You didn't watch the video, didn't you? They practically spent the whole video explaining that efficacy is not what vaccines are all about. You didn't listen when they explained that you can't compare efficacies of vaccines one-to-one because they weren't tested at the same conditions? They weren't test to the same people at the same time at the same location at the same point in the pandemic course. You get a BIG FAIL at ciomprehension. Watch the video AGAIN!

[@delavan9141]

Yup. I was astounded at how the media ran with the meme that the J&J vaccine was much less effective. Especially when you factor in how easy it is to ship and store it, and you only need ONE dose!

[@alphafox9162]

maybe they are investors in Moderna and Pfizer lol

[@russella7263]

As with current production rates it will take 8 years to make enough vaccine to vaccinate everyone twice, being able to do it with one shot is almost essential.

[@tasmanmillen]

J+J is currently testing whether a booster shot helps at all, so it may end up being a double dose vaccine like all the others. Also of note is that one dose of any vaccine is still very effective.

[@imageez]

To be fair, they are more well known as "baby care products", not "high medicine products", coming from one of the people who chuckled at the Covid Vaccine memes.

[@ranggakd]

How do I support the CC to interpret it in my language? Please my people have a serious problem with this

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

That info. at the 3:00 mark is key! I love science.

[@cjn0]

I looked at your channel, and I regret it.

[@cabbage2329]

@@cjn0 Good on you then?

[@cjn0]

@@cabbage2329 oh what did you enjoy it?

[@nostro1940]

We got a pseudo scientist over here

[@ruibarian5187]

this video lacks fundamental statistics knowledge.

[@coolerkid14]

Can someone explain efficacy? I’m a little confused since Phizer and Moderna the groups that did receive the vaccine only a few % got the virus but J & J more were infected with the virus. Wouldn’t that mean the other vaccines are more proficient at blocking the virus?

[@shinji136]

The video itself shows it, watch the video. The people tested for Pfizer and Moderna were exposed to lower risk of COVID than the people tested for J&J.

[@Dev48714]

It's not BACKTRACKING, it changing your opinion based on new information that you are presented with. Big difference, good on the mayor.

[@andretsang7337]

Yes, this is good. We need more people who are willing to change their mind in response to new info, and admit they're wrong.

[@TheBooban]

Well thats not what he did. First he said he only wanted the best, then he said he only rejected the J&J one because they had too many of the first two.

[@Frontline_view_kaiser]

He didn't admit he's wrong though. He said the only reason they didn't take the first shipment was because they already had enough Moderna and Comirnaty. He never backtracked on anything. And the information that came out wasn't new. He could have very well known that J&J is just as effective as the other vaccines. The mayor did what he did for political grandstanding and he never admitted that he was wrong

[@CoolShot906]

This is what they didn't show in television, that makes peoples scare to be vaccinate

[@marisapatch431]

My family member was hesitant about signing up for their AstraZeneca shot but I showed them this video and now they feel much more comfortable! Thank you for such a helpful video!

[@svetabut155]

@erinisaacmarie В Германии приостанaвливается вакцинация от короновируса препаратом британско-шведской компании AstraZeneca из-за новых сообщений об опасных побочных эффектах, заявили в Минздраве ФРГ. / Март 15, 2021/

[@marisapatch431]

@Pat Rioht what???

[@Shuubox]

Weeeeell, all those vaccines might be 100% effective AFTER the second dose, the problem is that Pfizer is 2 shots 1 month apart, and something like AZ is 2 shots, 2-3months apart...so yeah. Obviously, it's better than nothing, but that whole part seemed to have been completely ignored in this video, cause Pfizer is still clearly better since you'll be immune a lot sooner than AZ for instance.

[@chikamazri5817]

Just want to warn you if that family member of yours died because of AstraZeneca's vaccine... Who will be the responsible? You?

[@fluff5]

Just avoid astrazeneca and get any other vaccine.

[@carlh.knappen6081]

Every thing under 70% is placebo. BiON-Tech reached only 68% in the newest examination in Israel. This must be investigate because BiON-Tech /Pfizer is listed on the NY stock exchange. Some politicians getting nervous. To be or not to be that is the question then!!!

[@lakurkuma8113]

Did you even Watch the video?

[@bendecaf]

This is an incredibly important and well made video of something that unfortunately not enough people understand. It really should be translated into many languages. This misunderstanding happens practically everywhere, not just the US. Thanks for making this.

[@aussieboy4090]

Joe Biden can’t even walk on stairs there’s election fraud

[@antmaster360]

@@shoaibakhtar4389 Yeah how long have we been taking vaccine shots but still have the flu?

[@nowaynoway1798]

​@@aussieboy4090 chill down dude, you posted this sub-comment more than 4-5 times in different comment posts

[@nowaynoway1798]

@@tintin6291 now it's time to remove your tin foil hat and get vaccinated

[@antmaster360]

@@shoaibakhtar4389 You mean like how covid has also been constantly mutating?

[@ptrgyl]

That's right. But just to make clear, Pfizer-Biontech vaccine had their trial in 6 countries. In the US, Brasil, Argentina, South Africa, Germany and Turkey.

[@lucianavila-gatz4667]

What does that clear?

[@illogicalparadox]

@@lucianavila-gatz4667 I believe it's to clear up a potential misconception about the efficacy of J&J's vaccine at preventing infections. Vox brought up that J&J's vaccine was tested in South Africa, but did not talk about where Pfizer-Biontech's vaccine was tested. It isn't quite the main point, but it is good to note. While one should take whatever vaccine they're offered, if one has a choice, this information may be good to know.

[@DiaXisHD]

@@illogicalparadox Didn't they say it was exclusively tested in the US?

[@illogicalparadox]

@@DiaXisHD Well, Gyula Petri seemed to have information stating otherwise. Gyula, would you be able to provide a source for where you've acquired this information?

[@allenklingsporn6993]

@@illogicalparadox It doesn't make any difference to the average citizen because the average person has no idea which variants existed at which times in which places or at all how a vaccine technology would impact each one (or even which variant they are most likely to catch!). In the end, the decision making process of the lay person will be nonsense in terms of actual efficacy. Doesn't matter which one they get because it is now moving more quickly than we can reasonably make decisions about efficacy against it. We are now hoping and praying that vaccine-resistant variants are not currently emerging.

[@gourabsarker6895]

I salute the brave souls who volunteered for the trials, especially the ones who unfortunately got the placebo. Humanity might just find a way forward because of their sacrifice/leap of faith.🙏

[@electrodynamicorb6548]

The blind leading the blind.

[@quinndenver4075]

Not that brave but yes very important job

[@quinndenver4075]

@@electrodynamicorb6548 I’m afraid it is your party that symbolizes “the blind leading the blind”

[@electrodynamicorb6548]

@@quinndenver4075 I see what your trying to say but you all are the one's taking Trumps warp speed vaccine sooooo can't really pin that one on me.

[@quinndenver4075]

@@electrodynamicorb6548 I can’t even tell are you for or against trump

[@44jimcordell31]

My wife and I both got the COVID vaccine as soon as we could. She went to a white area close to our home and got Pfizer. I went to an economically depressed minority area and got Johnson & Johnson. I have no problem at all with anything that is said in this video but the looks of it are horrible. If I lived in that Minority area I would be very slow to get the vaccine. My feeling would be, if J & J's so great then send it over to the white area of town and send me Pfizer.

[@gatodario]

I wish more countries had a communication team as good as yours to educate people in simple terms. Great video!

[@tuckermenzies348]

@@jessesinclair3861 Vox are not Marxists lol they are center-right liberals

[@RAiNfORAiNbOW]

@@jessesinclair3861 actually they would because getting covid isnt one time encounter, its exposure over time with infected person so how present the virus can change the efficiency using this method

[@RAiNfORAiNbOW]

@@jessesinclair3861 you still dont get it

[@user-jf7rk9vu4s]

@@jessesinclair3861 so are you trying to say that if both groups are exposed to same level threat, since they are compared to a group that was in the same environment with them, the efficiency is accurate?

[@ttonAb2]

@@user-jf7rk9vu4s yes.

[@tchevrier]

my understanding is that the efficacy for Pfizer was based on eliminating symptoms, where-as the efficacy for AstraZeneca was based on a negative PCR result. Two completely different measures.

[@fluff5]

If all the vaccines are the same why don't we use the cheaper one? There's clearly vaccines that are better than the others.

[@casinoroyal93]

Also we dunno what vaccine will protect you more from future mutation of covid 19.

[@freekwe]

No you’re wrong. They are the same measure.

[@k1dicarus]

Your understanding is incorrect.

[@tchevrier]

@@freekwe no, you are wrong. They are not measuring the same thing.

[@EXL714]

Info aside, this video gives me the museum tour guide vibes and... I’m really enjoying it for some reason. I can’t wait to go back to museums again.

[@mandalaqueen828]

Awww I miss museums too now 😭

[@unkannyunkanny9232]

Some museums have virtual tours. You could visit ones on different continents. Tenement Museum (NYC) does multiple tours in the same building. Different stories, different room. You could do a tour and get a feel for the tour and space.

[@TermoHydroKmPt]

That's just sponsored by Johnson and Johnson. Look at stocks. J&J is falling down and they need to sell their vaccine

[@edwardl1631]

@@TermoHydroKmPt a large multinational corporation with a vast amount of varied products had their stock fluctuate (which happens to literally every company), is hinging their future on a vaccine. You're not very smart, are you?

[@TermoHydroKmPt]

@@edwardl1631Are you professional trader? If i would need some opinion from guy who's never was in trading i would be asked you🙋🏻‍♂️😑

[@gj2986]

what prize did you win in the side effects lottery

[@pd9605]

J & J is one shot which is a huge benefit to a large portion of the population for many reasons, Getting to the vaccine location, mentally compromised populations that getting a shot is very stressful and confusing to, and the time loss due to the side effects especially to the second doses of the first two available vaccines which were quite hard for even those in the healthiest and more fit population.

[@alessandrodonadi1368]

not only that, but it being only one shot seriously reduces the pressure to produce more and more of it. it is as if every single dose counts as two. your country gets 7 million of them, well then 7 million people are vaccinated! completely bypassing the logyistics nightmare that its occurring now basically everywhere