Why You're NOT Getting Stronger At Calisthenics | FitnessFAQs Podcast #47 - Saturno Movement

Today we're learning important calisthenics lessons from @SaturnoMovement . If you're looking to get stronger at bodyweight exercises, we cover the best practices for doing so.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Overcoming Burnout
06:49 - How To Avoid Injury
13:29 - Weighted Calisthenics Problems
17:04 - Should You Train to Failure?
22:32 - Choosing The Right Exercises
28:46 - Can You Build Muscle With Calisthenics?
37:20 - The Problem With Calisthenics
43:24 - How To Train For Calisthenics Skills
54:13 - The Truth About Handstands
01:03:41 - Do You Need Rotator Cuff Exercises?
01:10:29 - Mistaken Fitness Beliefs
01:17:07 - Building A Successful Fitness Business

[@SaturnoMovement]

What a great chat my brother! Thanks for having me on! 🙏🏽

[@instinctness36]

Hey can I ask how you recovered from golfer’s elbow, I have it right now from doing pull ups too fast.

[@FitnessFAQs]

Epic times unpacking calisthenics problems with you. Many practical takeaway for people listening 😊

[@shrekjunior6144]

​@@instinctness36 Maybe if you go slower, or with less added weight (if you do weighted pull ups) for a while it may give your tendons time to heal. I don't know what my elbow pain would be considered but my elbows used to get tender so to say, but after I decrease my working volume for several weeks and switched my grip it healed and went away. I had heard from others that holding a half false grip (where your fingers are wrapped around the bar like a normal grip but your wrist is flexed and your forearms are out to the side instead of being directly under the bar like a false grip) could cause pain, and once I switched to holding the bar from directly under and making sure not to flare I think it helped clear away the tendinitis because it put my tendons at a more favorable position and gave them time to adapt and get stronger. Over time as your tendons get stronger as long as you don't perform 1,000+ pull ups with a demanding grip your tendons will eventually adapt, however if you get poor sleep and you have a poor diet this adaptation process will take much longer. I no longer have any elbows issues at the moment. But I am only a male teen so maybe this advice isn't helpful for a pregnant 40 year old so take what I've said with a grain of salt. Hope it helps.

[@instinctness36]

thanks for the reply. im also a male teen lol@@shrekjunior6144

[@lmack6596]

This is absolute gold. Thank you both so much. 💕💪

[@vale5189]

...and here I'm a 45ish fat man and I'm watching two grand masters and I can't do a passive hang on the bar for 30 sec...I feel so weak ,I have so much work to do...by the way you guys are so great on teaching movements the right way,thank you so much

[@om-js6qq]

"You can have almost anything you want, but you can never have everything you want" I really needed this reality check today. It's not just a lesson for training, but also for life.

[@Aliapfelsaft]

In my opinion: high bodyweight reps at the basic movements, with good form and no feeling of discomfort, are the basic for a good calistenics athlete. Maybe mix it up with some weighted calistenics for the fun, but keep focus on mastering the bodyweight with good to perfect form. Will take years. You can only run, when you are able to walk. You can only sprint, when you are able run.

[@NofirstnameNolastname]

First minute he mentioned golfers elbow from pullups. Exactly the problem I have been running into for over a year. I really hope this is talked about as I keep watching.

[@TheStrongestPoolBoy]

Knees over toes guy just did video on this

[@FitnessFAQs]

Hey legends, if you found this podcast useful, leave a thumbs up to support the show ❤ Timestamps: 00:00 - Overcoming Burnout 06:49 - How To Avoid Injury 13:29 - Weighted Calisthenics Problems 17:04 - Should You Train to Failure? 22:32 - Choosing The Right Exercises 28:46 - Can You Build Muscle With Calisthenics? 37:20 - The Problem With Calisthenics 43:24 - How To Train For Calisthenics Skills 54:13 - The Truth About Handstands 01:03:41 - Do You Need Rotator Cuff Exercises? 01:10:29 - Mistaken Fitness Beliefs 01:17:07 - Building A Successful Fitness Business

[@WisdomVortex361]

Thanks Man

[@lmack6596]

YES!!! 💕💪 I'm barely 2mins in, and Gabo is talking sooooo much sense. As an "advanced beginner" it is so good to hear an expert saying these things. I'm tall and female and have struggled with push ups my whole life. But a while ago I decided to ditch my ego and regress right back to a move I could do with good form. I spent time working on countertop push ups, progressing to negative knee push ups, then full knee push ups. I can now do really solid, controlled knee push ups, and confident if I keep practicing consistently solid, controlled full push ups will be next.

[@ryanleahy704]

I'm just coming back from 5 months injured and this is the perfect reminder to take my time. I'm feeling better but there is no rush to get back to the level I was before. I'm just happy to be able to train again!

[@tammyfreed8211]

The candor and frank/fearless self-assessment is so inspiring, especially in one so young. Bravo to both of you.

[@Aliapfelsaft]

13:29-17:03 VERY important!!! This is the longterm thinking!

[@user-xq7oi7dy1s]

Really nice, wanna see k boges on podcasts, he has pretty interesting approach on training

[@GomtiMehta]

My favorite guys right here. I have learned so much from you and Gabo.

[@SaturnoMovement]

Appreciate you! 💙

[@GomtiMehta]

@@SaturnoMovement ⭐️❤️

[@SC-ye3kw]

Another great interview with another great coach. At this point, I feel like I'm a KZbin fitness warrior. Body by Rings is still my favorite, but it makes me grow muscles like crazy, so much so, that I think I need to change my routine so I don't get too big. What do you suggest? I do one Push day, one Pull day, one leg day, and I play soccer once a week. I'm doing 4-5 sets of each exercise with no weights. Currently, 6'2" and 213 lbs.

[@Sera79]

Excellent episode- thank u both! 🤩

[@rickyspanish8956]

Thanks for video! 👍💪

[@psychedwellness77]

Excellent conversation, thank you my brothers!

[@navin_sw]

Loved this episode

[@Canute87]

Love seeing you 2 together.

[@carolinegermaine9978]

Teaching how to train specific movements from the ground up is huge, as well as teaching those movements from the intermediate and advanced level. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

[@MrRediste]

Loved this one! Was getting very good at following my program and then really wanted to get the muscle-up, started including some reps on top of my program and got the muscle-up but couple days on and injured my wrist, since then I learnt my lesson I had to go back to basics and when I will get back into muscle up training I will be sure to include the right exercises in my program to build the basoc strength instead of random reps here and there! Thanks all the valuable info!

[@estebanlopez8800]

Thanks this chat help me to stay more time on the progressions rather than if im able to do the next one do it Great podcast guys, 2 of my favorites in the calisthenics world 🙌🤝

[@raulzitoporai]

So much knowledge and experience in this podcast. Amazing.

[@user-hx9bq4kf1q]

Great podcast guys. Learnt so much. Deserves more thumbs up!! Show your support out there.

[@Alanlift]

That was awesome Danial 😍👏👏

[@physiquetailor]

Great podcast episodes by 2 legends in the game, loved it amazing advice thank you! 💪🏼

[@jeffweidmann7028]

Loved this interview! So many truths and helpful insights on how to train calisthenics with longevity of training in mind. One of my key takeaways that I plan to experiment with more - gearing my warm up routine to be more specific to my working set exercises and not do such an extensive warm up routine to the point of fatiguing my muscles prior to the working sets. I intuitively started doing this a few months ago. Prior to cutting back my warm ups, I was doing a very comprehensive warm up/prehab routine that was taking me at least 20 minutes prior to my working sets, and was seeing a lack of progress. Since scaling back my warm up routine, gains have started to come back slowly.

[@HexZwo]

Man I just love the creativity and problem solving calisthenics forces us to use to progess further without injuries.. 🤩😁

[@PsychoDynamicFun]

This was SUPERB! Many Thanks to both of you guys, hope to see more of these💪🏼🤙🏻👏🏼 Fuerte abrazo a La Familia Saturno Mov!

[@munkensa]

These podcasts is pure gold👍💪😊

[@jairgh5351]

I love all of the podcasts!

[@franciscochavez1010]

I’ve been questioning the one arm handstand for the past year. Been training it for at least 2 years. I have an extremely solid base for handstands and have great form technique for the one arm progressions. (Took a 3 month coaching from Sasha Bachman). But even still thinking of dropping it. I don’t have the time. I have 1.5 hours 6 days a week to train(not complaining). But that has to include stretch warm up. One arm handstand and I still do an upper lower split to stay in shape. Cuz y’all are right. One arm handstand doesn’t keep you in shape.

[@Jeff-uz8ns]

Fantastic discussion. Thanks gents

[@WisdomVortex361]

You Both Have Really Helped My Calisthenics Journey!

[@lmack6596]

Mine too :)

[@guitarherb]

About handstand ! Omarbalancing is great both on one arm and planche .This exception is proving the rule

[@ShakoInasa]

Such a good , transparent conversation ❤. Really Enjoyed it , Thanks 💪 I've realized: 1. Humbling Myself = Step Back , In order to step forward in long-term 2. Dropping too many skills, and set realistic timeframe for my skills development. I'm choosing to master only two in 2024 1. Handstand Pushups on Ground and Bar 2. Front Lever

[@JC-ji1hp]

Just restarted my calisthenics journey after about 5 years off. Regained my v-hold press into handstand but I’m not stable at the top. Working on getting planche and I can tuck planche with single leg extension twice on both sides. Your channel has been a gos send.

[@Rizvi365]

The goals was important. I've also cut it down because you just don't make enough progress. But Even with just 2 main ones I've made more progress in handstands and overhead strength but muscle ups I've been stuck for months in the same spot. Unfortunately can't make more time than 3 days a week but we will get there one day I'm sure!

[@noahthonyangelomhn851]

That's a great podcast especially talking about your experiences and conveying great information. I wanted to ask this (coming from a gymnastics background) : Why not try to treat calisthenics training like powerlifting, training for power and strength in the 3 to 7 reps for the general movements/ related muscles and include isolated training for the smaller muscles that help the skills ( e.g. scapula, rotator cuffs etc..). Cause I can sum up calisthenics as follow, a lot of strength, control and spacial awareness ( and skill specific flexibility helps a lot) I've seen very good improvements and control in skills and overall strength and size after starting training this way. What's your take on that?

[@teatowel11]

Good discussion on training to failure, there is a huge difference between doing biceps curls to failure vs doing squats to failure or, as they mention chest to wall pushup.

[@ironhawse]

Great point bro, weighted Cl without the right approach is unsustainable, it will manifest in injury.

[@catlerbatty]

I learned how to do a proper pushup watching Saturno's short ✌ I always thought it was impossible to bend the arms and go down when you're in that straight-armed position, until I saw him retract his scaps which instantly made it more stable. Thank you my guy 👍

[@stephannaviavalencia8617]

Awesome, thank you for sharing. You guys are great coaches.

[@Jeff-uz8ns]

Thanks!

[@FitnessFAQs]

Cheers for the coffee ☕

[@franciscochavez1010]

KBoges will be a fantastic next guess if you’re looking for one !

[@ashryl]

Man, a couple of kings having a chat about proper long term training, the value of this cannot be overstated

[@darkness1293]

so on the point about the separation of skills training. At what level do you think someone could get at before they would need to dedicated work for the different skills?

[@wushuhsu]

Any research on training past failure, specifically doing drop sets with lower weights once failure is reached with a given weight?

[@djj3357]

💯🔥💪🏾

[@jasonreimann6791]

TOP DAWGS

[@anandahere]

Wow I'm here now bcz of FAQ's news letter

[@kolash74]

Does anyone remember coach Christopher Sommer? It’s interesting to see how long term experience has taken these advanced calisthenics athletes to a point where they’re talking about slow and smart progression for joint and tendon health in the same way.

[@rista0rile0ricky]

I’m tennis player and I have boring golfer elbow 😢,any tips?

[@danielfarrell3534]

I had super tight right lat when I had golfers elbow in my right arm. As a tennis player you probably have one side ridiculously tighter than the other because of the repetitive movement you do with a racket. You may need to address imbalances rather than just releasing tightness though as they're likely linked anyway. Muscle imbalance causing tightness.

[@shadowking4916]

do you take supplements?

[@Aliapfelsaft]

Not that importent

[@fitnytech]

Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent.

[@rimozione_cittadinanza_a_l4847]

Cameooooo

[@insjok9584]

One thing about higher rep body weight calisthenics is that it gets boring and it takes a lot of time. I think that’s also why some people rush to do weighted calisthenics

[@dako89]

I think golfers elbows from doing pull ups comes from weak braquialis anterior muscles. I am training my braquialis often now.

[@instinctness36]

is that your forearm muscle?

[@dako89]

@@instinctness36 yes, one of them. It inserts in the below the biceps and ends on the forearms

[@KastoeKrab]

You mean brachialis muscle. The other forearm muscle is called brachialis radialis

[@dako89]

@@KastoeKrab yes, I meant that one thank you

[@Aliapfelsaft]

Why?

[@yannick-tripleocarina6960]

The S sound is very strong with your microphone

[@shreyanshkumarpatra2723]

Indeed, that disc shaped filter shall help with that problem

[@SK1LAH]

Or just using De-Esser filter

[@Aliapfelsaft]

Mississippi's

[@crixinho5209]

🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪

[@gonzalezmanzanillahectormi7247]

Subtitles in Spanish please

[@setianexus8928]

calisthenics is always actual strong not looking strong

[@ebelesaurus2]

Just so y’all know, calisthenics doesn’t come with these guys devilishly good looks. I tried. Doesn’t work 😂

[@avatarbouwen]

Ah so you have tried for multiple years yeah? Im not even a year in and see great results with only calisthenics and I dont even take it that serious LOL maybe get off the computer and do some pushups

[@faakhy2954]

I get my physic only with calisthenics (~ 2 years). So it works.

[@KastoeKrab]

Lmao that sounds like a consistency problem

[@czuw2967]

Guys, the OP is making a joke that they’re naturally good looking dudes. Get it? No amount of working out will make you as good looking as they are - it’s a joke! Dear goodness.

[@That_One_MF_0]

He also lift weights, not just callisthenics. And your genetics also matter

[@Jesus_LovesAndSaves]

Jesus loves you!

[@Jesus_LovesAndSaves]

Jesus is the truth!!

[@huejaynus6750]

He has the best Iron Cross