Absolutely ridiculous that not a single barbell movement ended up in S tier. Shows you how “science” has failed us
@spicybanana3D9 ай бұрын
GG champ
@spicybanana3D9 ай бұрын
@@will-ht3mcBarbell is good for overloading exercises. Not necessarily they need to be on S tier. I prefer barbell over cable but I have to admit that I can only pull half the weight on cable compared to what I can pull through barbell.
@davidalonsoillera8 ай бұрын
This format is the best I've seen across KZbin fitness channels. It quickly sorts the workouts into ranks, showing us not just the top exercises but also the ones to avoid. It's a handy overview.
@preethiganeshamoorthy16735 ай бұрын
S • widegrip lat pull down • neutral grip lat pull down • one arm lat pull down • meadows row • chest supported rows • cable rows • wide grip cable row A • wide grip pull ups • neutral grip pull ups • cross body one arm lat pull down • deficit pendlay row • one arm db row • kroc row • cable lat prayers • db pullovers B • chin ups • bb row • pentlay row • rope face pull C • Deadlift • yates row • inverted row • free standing t bar row D • above the knee rack pull F • renegade rows • db row curl . Db row press • db row kickback
@servanttofriend84815 ай бұрын
You are a legend.
@kekulchik1104 ай бұрын
oh my god, you're WONDERFUL
@ponoliko4 ай бұрын
I lov u
@sdhokie4 ай бұрын
All good movements though! Don't go without these.
@thushanamarawansha10293 ай бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes 🫡
@seongmoon64839 ай бұрын
Excellent video! We need videos for every muscle group!
@sabertoothwallaby29379 ай бұрын
There already are. Hundreds.
@markyden9 ай бұрын
@@sabertoothwallaby2937 most r bs. plus this vid takes strech into consideration. so an updated tier list for muscle groups wd b great
@ignacioaraya54679 ай бұрын
Yessssss!!!🙏
@martinsskutans66469 ай бұрын
@@sabertoothwallaby2937Just what I wanted to comment- this has to be like at least 4th time Jeff posts same video with different title. I just can’t wrap my head around how people are not bored to death with content like this.
@bahandplays83739 ай бұрын
He did a top 10 ranking for chest And he did a video about all the muscle groups How to train them properly
@huikyle9 ай бұрын
s-tier - wide grip pull downs - neutral grip pull downs - half-kneeling one-arm lat pulldown (cable) - meadows row (basically a one-armed laterally-placed landmine) - chest-supported row (alt., dumbbell helms rows where chest is braced against incline bench neutral grip) - cable row - wide-grip cable row a-tier - wide grip pull ups - neutral grip pull ups - one-arm dumbbell row - kroc row (loose technique version of one-arm dumbbell row) - modified, seated rope face-pull with one foot against machine (to negate balancing requirement of conventional face-pull) - cable lat pull-over (AKAcable lat prayers) (bend upper body on negative, drive elbows down) - dumbbell lat pullover
@Willburrrrr9 ай бұрын
You’re the man
@steffenpetersen21039 ай бұрын
Cant believe he ranked pulldowns higher than Pullups
@ryubengtx54199 ай бұрын
@@steffenpetersen2103That's because pull-ups are more physically and mentally exhausting than the pull downs. For hypertrophy this is very important, However I will always continue to prefer pull-ups and even more so if they are weighted.
@inclinebench9 ай бұрын
Seal rows should be in S-tier too, no cap
@yrnkevinsmithC-1379 ай бұрын
@@steffenpetersen2103pullups will always look cool
@nevik29 ай бұрын
LOVE this new format. Praying you do this for each muscle group
@eltonarthur12338 ай бұрын
Yes, please l. I would love to see one for arms, particularly biceps.
@ZrCorelx8 ай бұрын
if he does I'm subbing to the channel
@NoLoyalMudHound968 ай бұрын
Triceps so many so-so exercises out there
@MetalCore975 ай бұрын
@@NoLoyalMudHound96 I know your comment is old but incase you haven't seen it, he released a video like this for triceps
@marctaylor114212 күн бұрын
@@eltonarthur1233 Biceps vid uploaded
@claivercoelho31475 ай бұрын
S-Tier - 3:38 wide grip pull downs - 3:59 neutral grip pull downs - 4:10 half-kneeling one-arm lat pulldown (cable) - 6:28 meadows row (basically a one-armed laterally-placed landmine) - 8:53 chest-supported row (alt., dumbbell helms rows where chest is braced against incline bench neutral grip) - 9:22 cable row - 9:37 wide-grip cable row A-Tier • 2:48 wide grip pull ups • 3:15 neutral grip pull ups • 4:38 cross body one arm lat pull down • 5:52 deficit pendlay row • 7:37 one arm db row • 7:57 kroc row • 10:26 Rope face pull variations • 10:38 cable lat prayers • 11:15 db pullovers
@VulcanicCloud9 ай бұрын
Please make videos like this for every muscle group, love how these are formatted. I feel like I'm cheering for my team scoring a point when I see an exercise I do be ranked high lol.
@El_payaso20069 ай бұрын
Ok greedy grinner
@imadeamistak49059 ай бұрын
only if you make a jerma noise tier list
@IronOathFitness9 ай бұрын
Haha I get you there!
@tylerriggs959 ай бұрын
Natural Hypertrophy has some good tier lists for each muscle group
Thanks Jeff you really blew out my back with this one
@shayneshayne9 ай бұрын
thats crazy
@joshuapollard58939 ай бұрын
@@shayneshayne😂😂😂😂
@bigwats12509 ай бұрын
Pause
@super28sisko9 ай бұрын
That's what she said...
@hiddeninplainsight19 ай бұрын
😂 all in good fun
@tibihobit92009 ай бұрын
bro, pull ups not being in S tier is uncomfortable
@skullkrusher-dx4kg9 ай бұрын
I mean the akward strength curve does have an effect on some people so it makes since.
@olegnovitski69879 ай бұрын
Putting lat pull downs higher than pull ups is blasphemy.
@ergonaut9409 ай бұрын
chin ups should be S
@vsauce66649 ай бұрын
@@skullkrusher-dx4kglol
@MaSolSC29 ай бұрын
They are also very weight dependent and not as easy to overload. If you're quite heavy or not fit you will need some sort of support. If you very light and/or strong you will require additional weights. And adding a belt with weights is not as easy as just adding weights to the stack. Also gripp strength can be a common issue in these excercises and depending on the setup I would assume thats easier to use straps with the lat pulldown.
@Edward-hb9qb8 ай бұрын
It feels like just yesterday you uploaded your first collaboration with John Meadows. I remember watching it the day you uploaded it. I thought of John as your polar; he was definitely the old-school bodybuilder from the golden days. But you held him and his opinions in such high regard, and I loved it. I loved your work with him, and I visited his channel several times. So sorry for your loss.
@MSordernature9 ай бұрын
Free standing T-bar row is my favourite exercise overall, not just for the back. While I feel that lying chest-supported rows cause too much of chest pressure due to the weight.
@clootscalhoun94819 ай бұрын
Agree with the chest pressure! Im not even strong, and it is still very uncomfortable for me.
@tann_man9 ай бұрын
parallel meadows row is my go to. Its like T-bar but with a huge single arm stretch
@jamieharpur17279 ай бұрын
Same with the pressure. Going heavy makes it hard for me to breathe, I’d rather go crazy with a barbell or T-bar row as well
@interwebslinger9 ай бұрын
Agreed on the chest pressure - not comfortable at all.
@Rockymountain119 ай бұрын
Try adjusting the chest pad up or down along the sternum, I felt a lot of pressure if the pad was too low but adjusting it up made it more comfortable
@jameslynnbudlong56589 ай бұрын
I've been doing rack pulls the last 4 months and love them. I try to do them as controlled as possible and not smash the weights on the rack. My back feels like it's going to explode after doing them. Maybe I'm crazy, but I like 'em. I worked up to a set of 10 reps with 180 kilos last week. For a 63 year old, that's not bad... No lower back pains whatsoever.
@gilbertboot5729 ай бұрын
Rack pulls are amazing for traps, but very bad for lats. Jeff doesn't specify in this video that he's only focusing on lats in this video, but that isn't the only back muscle.
@Shazok559 ай бұрын
@@gilbertboot572 he is not only talking about lats, face pulls are here and they are high
@gilbertboot5729 ай бұрын
@Shazok55 your right, but it's really strange for Jeff to praise face pulls for mid back and traps, even though there are much better options for traps. Then, completely disregard rack pulls despite their effectiveness for traps. He also doesn't include any other great traps movements like shrugs or farmers' walks.
@gilbertboot5729 ай бұрын
@Bramble20322 Having a shoulder day at the gym is lazy programming, but whatever. Regardless of that, the traps are a back muscle. I think it's person to person on whether people are going to train their traps, they are a hugely important muscle to train as a strongman athlete or to just generally have real life applicable strength and many bodybuilding channels talk about the importance of training traps directly (mainly naturals, because steroids affect traps disproportionately). So your blanket objective statement that deadlifts etc. are enough for traps is unfair. Also, deadlifts are good for traps as a byproduct, but I would never trust lateral raises or RDLs for traps growth. The traps are one of the strongest muscles in the body, lateral raises aren't going to do anything.
@wigletron28469 ай бұрын
@@gilbertboot572shrugs are a waste of time. Your traps get pounded by deadlifts, bent over rows, side and rear delt raises. Shrugs have too much fatigue for low reward.
@Umahdibro5 ай бұрын
In my 20 years of mix of casual to intermediate fitness I have never seen a better fitness channel.
This is the pinned comment I was looking for on the back list
@yo.izho463 ай бұрын
Appreciated the effort King! 👑
@ddlddjwbdbdkc67153 ай бұрын
Thank you
@faisal.fs12 ай бұрын
Legend
@jovanjovicic17169 ай бұрын
Hopefully this will become a series because I think this is honestly as simple as it gets. All of us could use your knowledge and you presented it in the best way possible. I'm lacking some mass in my back and I'm really looking forward to putting this A tier and S tier exercises into my workouts. Thank you so much. Keep up the great work. Love from Serbia ❤
@DnyAln9 ай бұрын
Jovan if you follow these s tier movements I promise you you will make no gains. Jeff did not gain his mass with these movements he uses them now to perfect his physique. S tier are pull-ups bent over rows and deadlifts don't let him fool you into using these cable exercises I promise you you will not make any gains you need to lift big heavy compound movements to add size mass to your back especially if you're natural.
@SuckableWeiney9 ай бұрын
@@DnyAlnFellow Eric bugenhagen enthusiast
@marcjov81499 ай бұрын
dje si brateee...samo masa, definicija je za pičke😄
@krainex9 ай бұрын
Serbia je kosovo 🤗🤗🤗🤗😠
@conorconor86689 ай бұрын
There are his favourite, no the best. Pull ups are the best nr 1 and barbell growing nr 2 acording to scientist and tests.
@stanthebamafan9 ай бұрын
For me #1 is neutral grip pull-ups with added weight. I do that as the first exercise every back workout, and it’s my most performed exercise for any body part on my fitness app. #2 is barbell rows/pendlay rows. After that is dumbbell rows, chest-supported rows, neutral grip pulldowns, and cable row variations. That’s essentially all I do for back (besides deadlift/squat), and I’ve always had a fairly strong and developed back. I have respect for people who will hit a body part with 20 different rotating exercises, but I like to keep it simple and do 2-4 exercises out of 6 or 7 with mostly heavy weights.
@tonydigital8089 ай бұрын
Weighted neutral grip pull ups are also my go to. I try to do all 3 grips but neutral is definitely my preferred grip
@doublevision29439 ай бұрын
Neutral grip pull ups are possibly my favourite exercise. I do them with fat grips and thumbless grip which makes them a great forearm builder at the same time Currently I'm switching over to wide grip pull ups again and it seems that there's more bicep activation. Either way seeing pull ups beneath pulldowns is painful to me and I can't help but disagree. I also love incline bench chest supported rows but unfortunately you're very strong in this position and it won't take long to max out the weights in local small town gyms so I'm trying "leaning on bench" one armed rows which give the better stretch and feel pretty good, too. This variation wasn't mentioned in the video. Dumbbell pullovers are also a must
@slade69598 ай бұрын
I have the same exact priority order 😂
@AS-pug7 ай бұрын
Which is better though for a wider back, neutral grip or wide grip pull up?
@doublevision29437 ай бұрын
@@AS-pug I believe normal and therefore also wide grip pull ups have an increased emphasis on the biceps, for me this limits my strength and makes it harder to engage my lats optimally. I'm almost certain that neutral grip is the best for lat focus.
@waderace40849 ай бұрын
As someone who trains at home, pullups and inverted rows are my go- to exercises for back. You can add weight to progress, yes, but trying them archer-style to progress to one-arm inverted rows or working towards front levers to progress to front lever rows is a way-a hard way- to progressively overload the inverted row.
@oribargil39589 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what im sayinnn ita not that inverted rows are hard to overload you just have to think of progressions in a different way as it is a bodyweight exercise! Working towards a front lever inverted row undoubtedly will make your back bigger
@IronOathFitness9 ай бұрын
I’m right there with you in terms of training at home.
@blackly_07269 ай бұрын
yes, Im doing the same, and my back is undoubtedly growing a lot
@mathieunolet8236Ай бұрын
Jeff missed the opportunity to have this title say “Backed By Science”
@erickllerenas77339 ай бұрын
Glad I’m subscribed, to get to see all the major muscles groups tier lists (hopefully). It’ll take a while, but it’ll be worth it. Thanks for the informative content as always, Jeff!
@lucandro149 ай бұрын
Meadows row is my favorite back exercise by far but I wasn’t expecting it to be here. Love and respect to Jhon Meadows “Mountain dog” and may he rest in peace ❤
@heebsgames9 ай бұрын
Just tried it for the first time. Definitely gonna need wrist straps for it.
@MrTobypenguin79 ай бұрын
Jeff and John were great pals:(
@soonerborn76033 ай бұрын
I actually never much cared for the Meadows Rows. I’ve tried them several times, but it just never felt that great for me. I just felt like I could be doing one arm dumbbell rows instead! But I feel like I’m in the minority. Everyone seems to love Meadows Rows.
@mikkilevin9 ай бұрын
I wonder why chin-ups are consistently getting underrated. You said that the worst thing about pull-ups is their tricky resistance curve, and chin-ups attempt to solve this issue by being significantly easier at the top than pull-ups, yet you put them in a lower tier. You could say that is because of a higher bicep activation, but in an older video you have stated that there is no statistically significant difference between pull-up and chin-up lat hypertrophy, meaning that bicep activation is actually just a bonus. Thoughts?
@ci65169 ай бұрын
Bro this is a stupid video for people who will never get big . Like Jesus Christ single arm kneel cable pull are better for mass than weighted chin ups ? Lmfao
@JohnDoe-id5ih9 ай бұрын
Chin-ups are mad underrated. They stretch the lats like crazy and offer bicep activation. The best thing is doing variations, narrow pull-ups, wide pull-ups and then chin-ups. Neutral is also good if you have access
@ankitg64548 ай бұрын
this is a shitty video which is only based on his gut feel. nothing scientific about this tier list
@simulatedstring90296 ай бұрын
But couldn't bicep activation also be a drawback because you'll be wearing out your biceps on a non bicep exercise? Many do back and biceps in the same day.
@FinnTrado5 ай бұрын
@@simulatedstring9029 you're still getting hypertrophy either way?
@billygrimes30523 ай бұрын
Been getting back in the gym after years of depression and unhealthy weight gain. I've been trying to rely on the info I had when I was younger but your videos have really been helping me develop a better weekly routine and helping me feel more confident in the gym. Appreciate the content dude!
@Atif_Ph.D._Kate_Bush_Fan_Club9 ай бұрын
It doesn’t happen regularly but when JN does release a video 📺 you know it’s going to be of the highest quality! ❤️
@AW-cv8nf9 ай бұрын
JN and Dr. Mike are all i need, best of the best.
@ankit-k80139 ай бұрын
Menno also sometimes 😅
@terrywilson14949 ай бұрын
Pencil back tier list, sticky Ricky bugenhagen for horse back
@ozziedood8 ай бұрын
Not putting Pendlay rows and Kroc rows in S tier has to be a crime.
@AS-Stardust8 ай бұрын
@@ozziedood Bent over row>Pendlay row
@neil120118 ай бұрын
Horse C*ckin around some serious ass weights.
@beburs7 ай бұрын
Yes sir 😅
@deathadone884 ай бұрын
@@beburs yes pencil neck and back tier, not hating but wouldnt pro bodybuilders do half kneling cable rows if they were any good?
@jerry7169 ай бұрын
I love this video! Very informative and entertaining at the same time. Love the way you explain each one into more detail. Please make this for EACH body part. THANK YOU
@jonrwert5 ай бұрын
The renegade row is definitely more of a core exercise with a little bit of back engagement for fun.
@joesmalltown6303Ай бұрын
I think the worst exercise for back is leg extension
@owennnnnnxd19 күн бұрын
💀
@franko17463 ай бұрын
Stay natty kids
@sethg45842 ай бұрын
Take steroids once your ready to become a man you say?
@GarrettsgucciАй бұрын
Naw
@why6212Ай бұрын
Did you watch his steroid video? I'm sold .
@bloodbourne_Ай бұрын
@@why6212 don't do steroids kids
@dustinholland689228 күн бұрын
That’s what he is endorsing
@microondasletal9 ай бұрын
Seems like a good list. However, I must point 2 things about the deadlift + rack pulls: 1. Rack Pulls going lower than the deadlift doesn't make much sense to me. The Rack Pulls work your back better even if you have less range of motion, because you start the deadlift movement just where the back starts to truly get engaged (the starting position you lose is more of a squat, really). Also, the fact that you start higher allows you to go much heavier, as you skip the point you're weaker at, and this overloads the back. This will inevitably build you more traps, which is something we all want, and also part of your shoulders and other stabilizers. The back pumps I get from doing rack pulls are from another world. 2. Deadlifts/rack pulls are very genetic based and I get that they don't work as great for everybody. For me, they are THE exercise for building the back, especially when you want to get it as thick as possible (mine EXPLODED in terms of progress when I started doing it just a few months back). Now, you can do a few things to engage the back more, like pre-activating some back muscles before it. If I lat spread during the whole movement, I get 3/4/5 days of soreness in them. That plus the pre-activation will improve anyone's ability to build their backs with the deadlift. Pretty much every top competitor does the deadlift for a reason. Strongmen have huge backs and they don't necessarily do any kind of rows, but they deadlift all the time. Cbum deadlifts, Dorian did, Arnold did, Ronnie did... You won't find that many Olympias that don't deadlift or rack pull.
@bobdarrick26289 ай бұрын
If by traps you mean upper traps, no we don’t all want them. They’re unaesthetic and gross. They look awkward/hunky and junky and take away from your shoulders. So there’s no value there.
@Shazok559 ай бұрын
@@bobdarrick2628 he probably means all parts of traps, also zero upper trap looks even worse
@bobdarrick26289 ай бұрын
@@Shazok55 no zero upper traps (which lets be honest - you never have zero) would look better than overdeveloped upper traps. I would take zero upper traps any day over big upper traps. Btw I neither have overdeveloped nor zero. Mine are probably proportionate to my physique. Not developed much I don’t think. Hopefully not. I don’t do shrugs btw. Maybe I should stop shoulder pressing and only do incline bench and dumbbell presses.
@Shazok559 ай бұрын
@@Bramble20322 i get it, its subjective, but in my opinion its not that common to have overdeveloped upper traps naturally, i also don't isolate them, just my 2 cents
@microondasletal2 ай бұрын
@@bobdarrick2628It's been a few months, sry. Didn't get notified and casually found my comment and your responses when revisiting this vid. I didn't mean upper traps, but mid and lower traps as well. Anyway, upper traps (and traps in general) have great benefits regarding achieving a better posture. They also make you fill your t-shirts way better, thus making you look more huge than you may actually be. I understand that you don't like big traps, but I will say I personally do. I find some Olympia level physiques with lacking traps to be ridiculous looking. Can't yet find a single case where they are so big that I find them unaesthetic, but I know that's all subjective. Not even Rubiel Mosquera's, and his are extremely huge. Mine are very, very developed as I train them once or twice per week (depending on the program I'm following) with 200kg shrugs on a low tempo for high reps, which makes them incredibly sore for at least 3/4 days. Again, it's all subjective, but they definitely make your posture better, allow for better scapular retraction and actually puts some noticeable muscle near your head so that it doesn't look like another person coming out of a muscular body.
@brandonweinmann57008 ай бұрын
My man you were born to be a teacher. You explain everything so well
@PratikSingla9 ай бұрын
On to week 5 and loving the program. This information is so valuable. Thanks Jeff!
@Kidkosmos9 ай бұрын
PULL UP GANG, UNITE!
@trentw.35665 ай бұрын
T Bar rows rule, pull downs are great and safer than pull ups unless you are a small person.
@logical_thinker4 ай бұрын
Here here!
@slayerplayer11022 ай бұрын
@@trentw.3566 u dont have to be small lol you gotta have relative strength for your body weight if you dont then thats where pull downs help and its really good for people who are over weight or obese who are starting out out and same with people who cant do pull ups yet
@omniprotentpr0tent56314 күн бұрын
The one and only!💪
@mackieincsouthsea9 ай бұрын
Really pleased to see Meadows on S. I moved to these from Single Arm DB rows due to issues with form after progressing on load. I've always had issues with BB rows and struggled to maintain a neutral spine position as load progressed and I also have relatively weak grip, even when compensating with straps. Meadows kinda helped remove these weak points for me and have become a permanent fixture on pull day!
@soonerborn76039 ай бұрын
I’ve tried Meadows Rows and they just never feel right to me. I’m a John Meadows fan for sure, so I trust that they work! Maybe I just need to watch some more form videos or something…
@mackieincsouthsea9 ай бұрын
@@soonerborn7603 I think foot position counts for a lot, and straps for me! But hey, some movements are just natural for some and not others! I can certainly vouch for a good pump from them when done in a way that feels comfortable. I was pleased to see I do em just like Jeff too which I'm assuming is optimal af 😂 I defo can't say the same about all my lifts
@soonerborn76039 ай бұрын
@@mackieincsouthsea I’m definitely going to try them again. So many people swear by them! I’m thinking straps will definitely help to focus on pulling with the back and not the arm.
@bal7ha2ar8 ай бұрын
@@soonerborn7603 not every exercise works for everybody tho. one that your friend or coach swears by might not be optimal for you and vice versa. thats why its good that there are so many variations, one will definitely suit you well
@soonerborn76038 ай бұрын
@@bal7ha2ar I’ve been doing them some more and I’m coming around. The straps helped a lot! Still not my favorite rowing variation, but I like them more than I did a month ago!
@GrueTurtle4 ай бұрын
It's been a while since I watched this channel. I like these tier list videos because it compresses a lot of information on different lifts into one video while answering the very common question of which variation or which exercise makes more sense to incorporate into a program. Makes them a good first stop when you're trying to get a general understanding of how these different lifts compare before going to other videos to get more detailed information on specific lifts.
@patrickbateman31469 ай бұрын
The spinal erectors are missed by a lot of body builders, because they can only be worked by deadlifts and variations, good mornings, and other spinal flexion/extension and twisting movements. They help to give the back a thicker, denser, 3d look. strongmen, and powerlifters, and others who have notoriously strong spinal erectors have huge backs because of this. When I think "huge back" I don't just think wide, I think dense and thick. Any lists of back exercises that don't also include some flexion/extension and twisting of the spine is an incomplete list. You did however include some rows that do this, such as single arm dumbbell rows, bent over rows, etc. But people who only work the lats and rhomboids are missing out. Work the erectors, and traps.
@JoshuaSweerts9 ай бұрын
Will it make your waist much wider so that you have a less aestaticly pleasing look? (Serious question)
@kyriakospaschalides69839 ай бұрын
no @@JoshuaSweerts
@patrickbateman31469 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaSweerts probably not. Obliques are worked by bending to the side. And that makes the waist look wider
@bobdarrick26289 ай бұрын
Upper traps are unaesthetic and gross
@IvanM2729 ай бұрын
This is not true. Powerlifters and strongman are not bigger and don’t look stronger than bodybuilders. Have you ever seen a strongman or powerlifter after a cut? They look SMALL for the amount of work, food and steroids they take, because of the style of training. Compared with bodybuilders off course. Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, El Sab, Big Ram, Yates, all of them have much bigger, more dense, thicker, more incredible backs than any strongman or powerlifter you want to pick. Eddie Hall after a cut looks smaller than at least 10 guys at my gym and he never even finished his cut because he knows and feels uncomfortable loosing his size because of his fat. Unless we’re taking about someone like Thor and maybe Shaw, but again you should come back after they get at 8% body fat to talk about “size”. Again, if you think this style of training is what decides, big and thick backs, compare this guys with similar body fat levels, not what you think it looks like on your computer. If you pick any top level strongman or powerlifter and put them on a bodybuilder program, can be only machines, they will become bigger, more dense, thicker than never before.
@ItachiUchiha-jz9wb7 ай бұрын
its crazy when you think about it that this kind of quality videos are here on yt for free
@snacking59089 ай бұрын
The one arm dumbbell row isn’t discredited by athlean x. He refers to the split stance. I agree with this. It is better and more natural to and with both feet on the ground
@AdrianVisan9 ай бұрын
I actually get pain with both feet on the ground, the split stance is so much better for me, but I do 45 degree angle instead of parallel to the bench
@Pienimusta9 ай бұрын
Yes. Even Jay Cutler does it both feet on ground, leaning to the weight rack.
@TheTetraSpirit9 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of the hate Jeff C gets nowadays is from people playing telephone with his comments and not actually listening to him themselves, I.E. the rows listed here and his stance on upright rows, both of which I happen to take his side on.
@lp16809 ай бұрын
I personally stopped doing one arm dumbbell rows because I feel so much asymmetric tension in my abdomen. Plenty of other exercises
@JeffNippard9 ай бұрын
He ranks it as his worst exercise 1 minute into this video, so I think my comments about him being critical of it are accurate and fair: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWXZhmaqr7uAbZI And even if it’s just a form thing, I still think having one knee up isn’t a big deal and doesn’t warrant ranking it as worst. Edit: actually, within the first 10 seconds of that video he literally says “the 1 arm dumbbell row is an absolute no for me” haha 🤷🏼♂️
@Samsulekjr29 күн бұрын
I was so happy to find out my back day exercises are all in S tier
@sandroairj9 ай бұрын
Hi Jeff, I’m a Doctor (MD, resident in orthopedic surgery), I’m very passionate about biomechanics and sports&exercise medicine, and I wanna give you my compliments for your work and your extreme competence and proficiency. Well done bro, keep going on!
@stackered9 ай бұрын
1. Jeff is a fake natty 2. Jeff is a fake scientist 3. Heavy DB rows, Deadlifts, Barbell Rows/Pendlay, and Pull/Chin Ups are all you need 4. I saw this guy with
@CFreedom9 ай бұрын
@@stackered This is the most accurate info on this channel.
@linkplays29528 ай бұрын
@@stackered how does his voice change his credibility? proof hes fake natty? proof he's a fake scientist?
@filabila9 ай бұрын
Its like Jeff knew it was Back Day.... waiting on my Rise order code Jeff. thanks bro
@clevelandwhiteknife10849 ай бұрын
My back today too 😂
@hopecritical-ops55549 ай бұрын
Same
@odkings34373 ай бұрын
8:55 man I wish they had this big bench chest support in my gym, the chest supported row in my gym has this small ahh thing that hurts your chest like hell, I have to either go light or end up quitting early because of chest pain rather than back failure 😅
@betahumanx7 ай бұрын
You should do this for every single part of the body. These videos are exactly what I've been looking for, thank you.
@AquarianMan5 ай бұрын
s-tier - 3:38 wide grip pull downs - 3:59 neutral grip pull downs - 4:10 half-kneeling one-arm lat pulldown (cable) - 6:28 meadows row (basically a one-armed laterally-placed landmine) - 8:53 chest-supported row (alt., dumbbell helms rows where chest is braced against incline bench neutral grip) - 9:22 cable row - 9:37 wide-grip cable row a-tier - wide grip pull ups - neutral grip pull ups - one-arm dumbbell row - kroc row (loose technique version of one-arm dumbbell row) - modified, seated rope face-pull with one foot against machine (to negate balancing requirement of conventional face-pull) - cable lat pull-over (AKAcable lat prayers) (bend upper body on negative, drive elbows down) - dumbbell lat pullover
@eggs_benny9 ай бұрын
I much prefer the free standing T-bar row to the chest supported row. The pad driving into my chest definitely does not win in the “feels good” department
@Ceredron9 ай бұрын
completely agree. The back stretch is huge but so is the chest support thing driving into my sternum. It feels like someone is driving a pencil into my mid-chest. I think this rating reaalllly depends on the quality of the machine in question. Not enough cushion = pain
@SChainey9 ай бұрын
I have flared ribs, so I agree, it can be uncomfortable. I will usually train one side at a time and hold on to the metal support. You can cheat it a little more with momentum, but I still find it a solid choice.
@iggytse9 ай бұрын
What is missing here is a nautilus pull over machine. Not very common but you get resistance in the full range of motion in the lat.
@alixthefunk9 ай бұрын
Yeah that's probably missed out because it's not that common. Probably beats the pullover
@G1antPurpleHipp016 күн бұрын
This actually makes me quite happy because I was already doing all S and A tier exercises on back day. Seeing this list is inspiring
@josh_ken9 ай бұрын
Wait for Eric Bugenhagen to react to this 💀
@woodstiks9 ай бұрын
Deadlift not being S tier is pencil neck behavior
@m00nkiid9 ай бұрын
@bzyspecial Boogz is literally PhD in broscience
@malikthebrit3359 ай бұрын
it took you years to realize its keeping you small XD@bzyspecial
@bestwesterner9 ай бұрын
@bzyspeciallet me guess you never even drank a gallon of milk per day
@nicktheraper42079 ай бұрын
I just want him to react to Lou ferigno but it’s gonna be more science based bs 😂😂
@ColinDeWaay9 ай бұрын
I feel the lat prayer better than anything for sure but I like to do it kneeling. I think it just forces me to get a better stretch
@paulgaras26069 ай бұрын
Maybe I’m alone here but I’ve never been convinced there’s all that much difference between pull-downs and and pull-ups with the same grip and same weight.
@mrw9994 ай бұрын
Just core activation
@anishmaitra59349 күн бұрын
Looks like the only video you'll ever need for back exercises
@GIFTOFGVME9 ай бұрын
ill stick to my eric bugenhagen review of this and continue to grow my voluptuous back
@DUA1SH0CK9 ай бұрын
same tbh
@pictusfish8 ай бұрын
It's nice to see my juicy, horsecock brethren here
@ChrisPTY5079 ай бұрын
Nothing beats the classic Dumbbell Pullovers. They are incredibly underrated, and you won't realize it until you see the insane results and the improvement in your v-taper.
@adamlucina9 ай бұрын
I really like the cable version, you take a bench, angle it 60-75 degrees, put your head below the cable, so the arms can just reach the attachment and do the pullover. Its really feels like nautilus pullover without any instability.
@calebford63189 ай бұрын
Tension curve leaves a lot to be desired. There are smarter ways to workout, no need to be stubborn
@ChrisPTY5079 ай бұрын
@@calebford6318 No stubbornness here, man. Just do the workout with proper, diligent form and the results will speak for itself. No even need to argue here.
@chonkeboi9 ай бұрын
@@calebford6318it’s lengthened biased and is literally a lengthened partial which is shown to cause at least equal or more growth than full rom. I’m not much of a science guy when it comes to lifting but they are a good exercise when you look at it anecdotally and scientifically. They might not be the best but they are definitely a good one.
@cumquat83209 ай бұрын
The lats have no leverage in that position 😂
@iaboni1009 ай бұрын
I can see why Jeff gave the recommendations he did based on his criteria, but in practice how many people do you know that built huge well rounded backs doing half kneeling 1 arm lat pulldowns and lying facepulls, and how many do you know who built great backs doing heavy rows, deadlifts and pull ups (Ronnie?, Dorian?, Stan Efferding?)? In fact none of the S tier exercises are particularly good at building spinal erectors which are one of the most common separators between a good back and a great back.
@ieuanjones76159 ай бұрын
always that one bro science guy
@GrahnFoerFaen9 ай бұрын
"Ranked with science" and one main criteria is "feel" sounds more bro to me. Pullovers, facepulls and cross-body kneeling 1 arm pish posh over deadlifts and barbells rows is nuts. Try building a legit back on that shit.@@ieuanjones7615
@pictusfish8 ай бұрын
@@ieuanjones7615 He's right though. You couldn't even come at this this with a counter argument. Why is he wrong?
@akshaymishra36748 ай бұрын
When you are as strong as Ronnie was . Your workout changes . These KZbin videos are more generic and not tailormade for professional bodybuildes.@@pictusfish
@isaacjr5938 ай бұрын
don't forget that famous bodybuilders are big consumers of steroids, and the health conditions at the spinal level are not the best now given the poor choice of exercises before the development of the sports session
@scdioatАй бұрын
this video is great. I really appreciate how you broke everything down and explained everything quick and precise. I'll be recommending your work to my gym buddies
@whattheduck699 ай бұрын
Massively appreciate the work that has gone into this. Perfectly written, perfectly subtle implementation of modern imagery tech. Have a spud 👊 from London my man. We all appreciate your work from all over the globe. On behalf of everyone watching, thank you Jeff 💪😄👍 💪😎👍
@TimMurielloOfficial9 ай бұрын
this a great chart to refer to if you would like a small back forever
@Iamthealmighty6 ай бұрын
Btw @7:15 inverted rows...if you're gona add weight, to get the benefit of that it should sit on your chest, not your lap - the motion in your lap is almost non existent (near static). It's your chest and abdomen getting most of that motion in, so that's where the weight should be sitting...the closer to the chest the better. I would argue the more ideal way to overload this exercise is either via slower and more controlled negatives, or a weighted vest which you can wear - that would eliminate all the discomfort of having a weight sit directly on your chest or abdomen.
@dr00skee475 ай бұрын
I'm always so suprised that other people don't like deadlifts very much. I LOVE how they feel. of course i have a lot of other actual back builders in my program but deadlifts make me feel like a beast
@srleplay9 ай бұрын
I hate narrow neutral grip lat pull-downs, if I do a proper stretch, delts cut off my neck blood supply. It's awesome on the row though and I'd put cable row as the best single back exercise because you can incorporate little flexion for extra stretch and lower back stimulus.
@brandonellulstephens88058 ай бұрын
Would you start with cable rows sets for your first exercise because of benefits you said
@srleplay8 ай бұрын
@@brandonellulstephens8805 I usually have separate vertical and horizontal pull days and I focus on lats for quite some time now, but you can if you are serious about overall back development
@vaxad4 ай бұрын
Who tf is doing renegade rows?
@Shaka_fr4 ай бұрын
My dad💀
@aaronwaldo79654 ай бұрын
People who play by there own rules
@DxipNinja4 ай бұрын
@@aaronwaldo7965their
@Blake_drandes4 ай бұрын
Moms in their mid forties
@dannynewman92064 ай бұрын
Crossfitters
@2liter8 ай бұрын
Barbell row going in B tier is craziness
@quirkyelephant8 ай бұрын
Too high or low?
@2liter8 ай бұрын
@@quirkyelephant way too low
@aymen828 ай бұрын
Yates rows on c tier is even worse
@Voi8z8 ай бұрын
It require alot of stabilization.
@soonerborn76033 ай бұрын
@@aymen82Exactly what I was going to say. I couldn’t believe it when it was ranked so low! It’s specifically designed to target the lats to a greater degree! It should definitely be in the A tier at least.
@nikspring9 ай бұрын
An excellent review of back exercises and their worth. It all made a lot of sense and wasn't long-winded. Thanks Mr Nippard! Job done!
@Eredhwen9 ай бұрын
Very informative, love the format and the straight to the point delivery
@mementomori88569 ай бұрын
Lat Pulldowns, Cable Lat Pull-Over and Chest-supported Machine Rows give me the craziest lat pumps, + I LOVE the new program!
@JamesJones-x5qАй бұрын
Jeff, you have some of the best videos and information on KZbin!! 💪🏽
@Pulse7189 ай бұрын
barbell row and pendlay row are A tier minimum , both are really functional movements and the stability requirements is a good thing because they also work the lower back unlike those machine rows
@bert49999 ай бұрын
Functionality was not a priority in his framework of analysis though
@bobdarrick26289 ай бұрын
Wdym by functional? When in real life do u use a barbell row? Also that doesn’t matter for hypertrophy at all.
@bobdarrick26289 ай бұрын
@@Bramble20322 bench press is more useful than all of those. It helps your pushing strength the most. That’s useful if you’re throwing a ball (sport) or pushing/punching someone (fight in hopefully self defence).
@Damdaaa9 ай бұрын
@@bobdarrick2628throwing a ball is mostly shoulders anyway, difficult to train because it's a lot external and internal rotation. and throwing sports are not exactly "functional" training for functionality is stupid anyway. If you truly want to be "functional" for any given task then train to get more functional in that task, the muscle you gained from optimal hypertrophy training can greatly assist in becoming more functional. Don't chase 2 goals with 1 means, it's usually not more efficient.
@bobdarrick26289 ай бұрын
@@Damdaaa wait what? I train in a mostly hypertrophic way but a bit for strength as well. And rear delt work I do more for health purposes. I should do cardio though more tbf.
@letterkeys44409 ай бұрын
Below the knee rack pulls are my absolute favorite for lower back
@MrHadane9 ай бұрын
Might as well just do RDLs mate.
@letterkeys44409 ай бұрын
@@MrHadane lmao what? I’m not slamming my hammies just to barely feel anything in my back. Just a reminder I don’t think a single person on this planet reps rdl’s with more weight than they deadlift. Also not a single person alive reps rack pulls with less weight then they deadlift. You catching my point? Anyways in my push/pull/leg split I’m hitting rdl’s the next day
@AZ-gs6hj9 ай бұрын
Hyperextentions with a weight plate or if your gym has a hyperextention machine even better. You can remove all the other muscles and focus only on the lower back.
@letterkeys44409 ай бұрын
@@AZ-gs6hj I literally only use the hyper extension machine when I’m too lazy for heavy rack pulls or if the platforms and barbells are occupied 😤 Literally nothing compares for the strength gains. In terms of hypertrophy ur right - I get insane pumps on the hyper extension with plates
@pissy44769 ай бұрын
For lower back? I feel like rack pulls are more effective for the traps. On the topic of lower back, zercher deadlifts with back rounding are insane bro.
@ohmypoo1239 ай бұрын
God tier editing dude
@majidlatif470Ай бұрын
feels amazing to see all your back workouts end up in S-tier :)
@hbua55398 ай бұрын
great vid but personnally I think sthg is wrong when pullups are not in S tier
@sqwod8 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🏋️ Back exercises are ranked from S for super to F for fail based on muscle growth potential.* 00:13 *📦 Criteria for good back exercises include stretch with high tension, comfort, and simple progression.* 00:56 *🚫 Renegade rows are in F tier due to poor stretch, balance issues, and diluted tension from combining plank and row.* 01:52 *⬇️ Deadlifts rank in C tier for back hypertrophy due to limited stretch and tension; better for lower body strength.* 02:50 *💪 Wide grip pull-ups are in A tier for high tension and stretch, despite uneven resistance profile.* 03:33 *🏋️♂️ Wide grip lat pull Downs are in S tier for great stretch, tension, and stability, ideal for overall back development.* 06:31 *💪 Meadows rows, with intense stretch and tension, earn a spot in S tier for exceptional midback activation.* 09:03 *🏋️♂️ Chest supported rows, providing stable tension isolation, are in S tier for effective back development.* 09:30 *🔄 Cable rows, offering deep stretch and pump, are in S tier, with wide grip cable rows providing additional mid trap activation.* 11:38 *🥇 Chest supported row is crowned as the best back exercise, while Renegade row is deemed the worst for hypertrophy.* Summarized with ❤by Sqwod.life
@akaakaakaak57796 ай бұрын
add 1 rep each workout to pull ups?! takes me 6 months to add another
@pyromanglad11366 ай бұрын
That's not normal, with any genetics you should've done way better. Something is wrong in your routine. Try to practice it with a little extra weight, just do as you can and after a week, you'll be able to pull up without weight very easy
@akaakaakaak57792 ай бұрын
@@pyromanglad1136no you’re just talking absolute nonsense, 1 new pull-up a week would mean 52 more in a year. That’s clearly nonsense. Being able to do 20 pull-ups at 220lb is decent I think in doing ok thanks
@pyromanglad11362 ай бұрын
@@akaakaakaak5779 It doesn't work like that. Your efficiency factor will drop all the time especially as you get close to your natural maximum but the initial results and muscle grow are the most explosive ones. If you saying that it took you 6 months to gain 1 rep in the beginning it is indeed confusing. In your case 20 reps at 220lb means that you are already in a very good physic and of course your gains will be much less efficient. I thought your first comment was from a beginner perspective.
@jakesarmwrestlinguniverse97924 ай бұрын
In terms of content, this guys stuff is LOADED with value! Holy Moses! I can't believe there aren't people addicted to this guy!
@thomasdussault11329 ай бұрын
7:07 There's other ways to load this movement up Jeff. A simple one is using a backpack and placing it on your chest.
@ryanniedernhofer9 ай бұрын
Good advice, this is also how I load weighted pull-ups at my home gym
@farkaselliott01619 ай бұрын
Exactly. Do them on rings, they become S Tier and feel like non other. Rings give you the option of going wide, close, supinated, pronated, neutral, low or high row style and and and... rings also give you super range of motion, cause there's no bar stopping in the way of your chest.
@Rockymountain119 ай бұрын
@@farkaselliott0161my gym doesn't have rings :(
@milankazandzic22839 ай бұрын
same thing for face pulls , doing them on rings or trx would allow much better form.
@jambojack9 ай бұрын
I don't do them enough but there's something special about inverted rows. Great stretch at the bottom and great feeling when squeezing shoulder blades together at the top
@notthemlgtom4947 ай бұрын
1:58 Nice underwear bro
@laserbeam444maddness78 ай бұрын
3:44 Mario Rios: Say that again, I dare you
@gymjourney.youssef21 күн бұрын
so real
@Swissalchemist4 ай бұрын
Been binging your content lately. Excellent source of wisdom. Thank you! One recommendation on the best and worst series.... At the end of the video, could you visually lump all the A, S, and S+ into one large graphic so we can get a screenshot? Easy takeaways for referencing later at the gym!
@peterd59014 ай бұрын
I like how he mentions that wide grip pull ups are easy for progression, just "add one rep each workout". Current pull-up max reps after 20 years of gym = 1,424
@kakkakontent8 ай бұрын
Video ends: 12:15
@chris7os777 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh thank you.
@PatPrika428 ай бұрын
9:45 what is bro doing in the back
@assalamualaikum53524 күн бұрын
Triceps
@eswar0917 күн бұрын
tricep pushdown
@ranbirkinng14 күн бұрын
Dips on a Tricep Pushdown Machine 😅
@mobilelegendsmemes8 ай бұрын
When I watch workout videos I usually skip to the tutorial part then just copy them. But with your videos, I always end up watching them in full length because I really love the information even with the smallest details
@stevend4819 ай бұрын
Watch Eric Boogz on this lol
@LucasDimoveo9 ай бұрын
Can we get a video on Olympic Weightlifting?
@pretty_flaco9 ай бұрын
he doesn’t do o-lifts
@CharlieTheBritt9 ай бұрын
Pull ups aren't atleast an A tier but that weirdo sideways cable pull down thing is?
@merlin05735 ай бұрын
Yup, pullups sucks
@princerak88815 ай бұрын
@@merlin0573 nah you just trash at it
@slayerplayer11022 ай бұрын
@@merlin0573 how? its just a harder version of a pull down also the only downside with pull ups is that most beginners can not do them yet so thats where the lat pull down helps with
@donaldkennedydo2 ай бұрын
Excellent Best and Worst exercises videos. I think you're the leading authority on these topics. Goooooooood work.
@sengunvolkan9 ай бұрын
meta manipulation at its finest imagine putting overhand grip lat pulldown over weighted pullups
@porongo4209 ай бұрын
fr, this dude lost it
@eddiesymons83907 ай бұрын
? He's right though
@lucasgraeff53919 ай бұрын
Deadlifts in C and some unilateral pulley cable exercise in S? yeah
@kacperkubiak29955 ай бұрын
please enlighten me how the deadlift (of which I'm a big fan of) does anything notable for your upper back
@PawanDewangan-lb1mvАй бұрын
Well deadlift is a exercise for strength . Generally it doesn't make muscle mass. It gives extreme fatigue compared to which it doesn't build much muscle mass.
@R3dCol0r9 ай бұрын
"Does it feel good? Check" Ranked with science?? You can't be serious... 🤦♂️
@R3dCol0r9 ай бұрын
Why don't you just call it "my personal favorites" or something.
@UrheiluhuIIu9 ай бұрын
Because using word "science" on the title gives you a lot more views. As a scientist I hate this trend.
@thebeatmajors_yt8 ай бұрын
why don't you stop crying
@DiEgOo4408 ай бұрын
@@R3dCol0r tHE FEELING IS literally an used metric, are you dumb?
@eddiesymons83907 ай бұрын
Well Jeff is right though. If it doesn't feel good then there's no point doing it. Science doesn't have to be purely about EMG data and all that bullshit when it's about your own body and what is right for you
@ramadingoschromosome1085Ай бұрын
Your videos are so well made that It made me write you this comment
@NikolayMIA9 ай бұрын
Did you just put pulldowns in S and actual pull-ups in A? Bruh.
@seankaawa63788 ай бұрын
So you just didn’t watch the video and watch him throughly explain why he did that…. pulldowns give a really good tension and stretch better than pull ups lil bro
@micah15_8 ай бұрын
@@seankaawa6378you 100 percent don't have a big back if your saying this
@eddiesymons83907 ай бұрын
Oh boohoo, go cry about it
@slayerplayer11022 ай бұрын
@@eddiesymons8390 first time seeing someone disagree?
@n.h.n38882 ай бұрын
11:39 Full tier list
@CptApplestrudl4 ай бұрын
10:20 Well, if you already have a seat, why not turn it around so the back pushes against you chest?
@7Wzol3 ай бұрын
Great idea, got to check it out
@skilranimationАй бұрын
true
@thepurplpineapple94953 ай бұрын
ruining my sleep schedule with this🔥🔥🔥🔥
@hunterwollschlager82939 ай бұрын
Some people won’t like to hear about deadlift 2:00
@FabledGentleman9 ай бұрын
Deadlift is a fantastic strength exercise, also for your back, as it involves basically all of it. Of course some people will complain, because they don't understand that what Nippard is talking about here is muscle growth, not strength training.
@hunterwollschlager82939 ай бұрын
@@FabledGentlemanright on the money
@olegnovitski69879 ай бұрын
@@FabledGentleman I mean there is no muscle growth without strength increase if you are training naturally.
@Aarohnn8 ай бұрын
I don’t care what the criteria is, putting one arm pull downs, let alone pull downs, over pull ups is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
@roswellsatterwhite39068 ай бұрын
i think once you're able to do like 15 pullups they become less valuable because theyre too easy. although i guess you can just weight them like anything else.
@mistymansy8 ай бұрын
i think its because this is about hyperteophy, not strenght or functionality
@eddiesymons83907 ай бұрын
This is about muscle growth, much easier to focus on the muscle you're trying to target when stability isn't as much of a potential issue
@Aarohnn7 ай бұрын
@@eddiesymons8390 This is true, but you will not build bigger lats with single arm pull downs than you would with pull ups (weighted or not). I see pull downs and single arms pull downs as icing on the cake rather than the cake itself.
@Aarohnn7 ай бұрын
@@mistymansy exactly, weighted pull ups are far superior for hypertrophy, it’s one of the only exercises that REALLY gave me wings, I only do 2 sets of lat pull downs as a warm up.
@rustled9 ай бұрын
I thought that the yates row was basically an underhand grip row, maybe I'm wrong
@gordonsbuzz9 ай бұрын
That’s what I thought too
@jonnyoneplate9 ай бұрын
DY doesnt stress the underhand as you can see in clips of him demonstrating it on YT. He stresses the importance of curving the low back to stretch the lower part of the lats. Jeff's hip extension during the row however is not at all like the yates row👎
@bi-cubecraft4262 ай бұрын
You know these videos are indirectly helping lots lf people including myself
@jakubkidacki45799 ай бұрын
I don't know why you abuse the word "science". The list is ranked based on your own personal preferences. Science has nothing to do with it.