Why you should buy BMW F87 M2 now! | 4K

[@jamessonfield]

Just bought a 2018 LCi with 22k miles and extended bmw warranty from new. Can’t wait to pick it up.

[@MDrives]

Have a cracking time in it mate!

[@chrisharris4223]

Congrats, great car 👍

[@beatsandstuff]

Research the m2comp handling/transmission firmware upgrade, worth it for jerkiness on 1st to 2nd shifts, better handling feedback and better shifts on sport+. Also, get a chargepipe, N55 - no matter if they are N55b - have a plastic chargepipe that holds well 300hp, not 370hp and the amount of boost the M2 has. They are cheap, get a stainless steel one.

[@jamessonfield]

@@beatsandstuff Thanks for that, I was planning on keeping it under BMW warranty though so that kind of ruins my options of modifications/upgrades, I did see the firmware upgrades though and they looked good. Is the charge pipe a DIY fix? Access looks tricky?

[@beatsandstuff]

@@jamessonfield I think you need to know a little bit about carwork to put on the chargepipe. I sent mine to the shop when the oem cp blew out of nowhere at 14,000kms (I got unlucky, it usually lasts 30,000kms). I don't have the space/tools to do it myself living in a metropolis, so I either take it to a racing shop or go to one of my buddies who is a bmw wizard, but lacks a few tools for bigger repairs/tunes.

[@redfishstick]

F87 M2 is definitely one of the best cars ever made.

[@MDrives]

Agree. It’s definitely not the best at everything but it’s soo fun to drive.

[@DjNikGnashers]

Coming from a tuned M140i which I owned for 4 years, I bought an OG M2 late last year. It's a bit slower in a straight line, it's noisy, the ride is crashy over bumps, the DCT is jerky at low speeds, but .... on an open twisty undulating country road, wow, it really comes alive and it all makes sense. I love it.

[@MDrives]

I can really relate to your comment. The car isn’t perfect but once you drive it in anger it all makes sense.

[@simonehayes4911]

I echo your comments guys, not the best daily by any stretch but wow…. Get the correct conditions combined with the howling N55 and it’s perfection

[@TheCinderellaman10]

The N55 in the OG M2 is far superior to the standard n55 from the m135i plus it shares the same underpinnings in the chassis as the f series m3, make no mistake this car is great

[@Jmarzx]

Those rzn’s are understandable and actually makes u love it more cuz most ppl expect this m2 to feel like a C43 chasis and have no type of noise or squeaks or aggressive pothole bumps

[@beatsandstuff]

upgrade the transmission firmware to the m2comp one, look on bimmerpostforums. It also changes the handling a bit for the better. 1st to 2nd jerkiness gets fixed with this mod (if you got the og, you need to upgrade the firmware to LCI, the you can do comp the handling/transmission. Costed me 100 bucks, back then my mechanic had no idea about it and now he charges 10x of that. Still, worth it. Don't forget a charge pipe even if you have it stock, OEM CP are plastic sht and break. The car doesn't needs to be tuned at all, is perfect, nonetheless after 8 years of having it, mine has a downpipe/intercooler/chargepipe and stage 2 (not stage 2+) with 420/whp and 550nm of torque. Thinking about an air intake for the sound/better airflow and new exhaust for sound + 5hp haha. I doubt I'll get a bigger turbo and more tuning -maybe just an ohlins suspension system, since you can put it on street/track mode in the shop; street mode is just perfect, a buddy has it and it's night and day between the stock suspension for daily driving. The car is a beast, got it brand new, won't sell it ever and the other day I parked along a g87 M2, the dude was clearly uncomfortable, even when I was telling him his engine is kicks ass, he confessed not liking the design at all and would prefer the f87 looks (maybe a little refreshed) with an s58, rather than the monstrosity BMW created to cater to its biggest market in the East of the world.... OG M2s are gonna be a classic, idk if their prices go way up, I'm keeping mine and when upgrading to the better german brand -there's only one, VW may own the business, but we know they are the benchmark in the industry-, this will still be on the garage.

[@jaes8173]

I have the 18' lci M2.. upgraded intercooler, catted downpipe, charge pipe, turbo inlet, spark plugs - stage 2 tune and this thing is a monster on the street and in the canyons. This m car is hands down the best bang for your buck. Wanted a new m3 but went this route first, the other day went neck and neck with a brand new m3 from light to light, he was shocked! Great car!

[@MDrives]

They are amazing value for money and they are better than bigger cars on twisty roads. Definitely best choice for canyon roads. Regards 👋

[@Devincible]

we got the same set up im looking at maybe upgrading the fuel system but other then that i dont need anymore power then this. its PERFECT

[@scottclark1001]

I've owned my Long Beach Blue OG for nearly 5 years now, absolutely love the car and its definitely a keeper. M performance carbon exterior, M per Exhaust System, just had the steering wheel retrimmed in alcantara by Royal steering wheels with m perf carbon steering wheel trim also purchased. My brother in law just purchased an LBB M2 comp. Next time your up in Scotland give us a shout on the Fb owners page. Great channel keep up the good work.

[@MDrives]

Thanks. I’m glad you’re enjoying it. Regards 👋

[@lorenzo_levrero]

What a beauty... I hope to be able to afford one in 1 to 2 years!

[@MDrives]

Worth the wait!

[@MrWesternDuke]

A modern classic in the making and great value for money. Huge Smiles Per Gallon!😁

[@MDrives]

100% agree

[@romain687]

got one since 2018 when I was 24 ...now I go 30, still got it and I still in love with this beast and her beautiful n55 turbo

[@MDrives]

Great 👍🏻

[@Devincible]

just picked up a alpine white og 6 speed m2 40k miles my favorite car i've owned by far!

[@MDrives]

Congratulations on your new car! They are amazing amount of fun. I hope it will serve you well. Regards 👋

[@Devincible]

@@MDrives appreciate it man! great video I think the N55 get's a bad rep from earlier model n55 engine's but the M2 N55 really is something special. im excited to see how far I can push this platform since I don't see many do it.

[@bikezone8099]

Have an OG LCI and I absolutely love it. The combo of a VRSF sports cat and Mperf exhaust is the most addicting sound, and with the valves open is absolutely insane. I adore my car to bits. Lots of other extras, and IMO the best colour mineral grey, because everyone has a long beach blue one haha.

[@MDrives]

Don’t you get drone between 2500-3000rpm? I had mpe and sold it as with manual it was droning at 70mph

[@bikezone8099]

@@MDrives I do a bit yes, although it isn't a problem with the valves shut. I only tend to have them open if I'm driving hard on some good roads. With the valves open and cruising it's definitely a pain. Look forward to more content, always enjoyed your videos before and during my ownership of mine. I got the carbon mudguards you have after watching that video.

[@f87m2_daniel]

I just got my 2018 manual in LBB for $38,000 with 47k miles. It was super hard to find a one owner, LBB, clean title, manual in US. Happy I found it, future classic for sure! The sound is addicting

[@MDrives]

I’m glad you enjoying it. It looks like they hold their prices much better in US. Regards 👋

[@sabrimehmedsabri4412]

Saturday I’m getting my one !one more day I think it’s absolutely true I had a e 46 330ci but this is sound and is gose and feels like just beautiful

[@MDrives]

Exciting times! Have a great time in your new car.

[@masterkendro]

Im on my second F87 M2, and I currently have a competition model, i bought one sight unseen but it was near new and ive loved it but there is something to be said about the OG i had prior. The OG is a tremendous value, and that engine note is something special. The s55 can not compete with it, even with a 5k+ exhuast, it doesn't sound as good. Honestly, i think if i keep this M2 long-term, i may have to go single turbo, for sound alone. Or i could buy a really high mileage OG once i get close to paying this one off? So to any buyers out there keep thst in mind the OG is such a good value and gives you most of what the Competition offers, i assumed the competition was better in a massive way and it isnt, i think overall it is the "better" M2 juet based on what you get the tuning potential for the s55 is insane but the N55 is no slouch.

[@MDrives]

What a wise advice 👍🏻 I agree with you 100%. Stock vs stock, they are almost the same especially LCI. S55 is a tuneable beast but if like me you’re not planning to increase power, OG it’s a better value for money.

[@PC-yw9co]

I think this applies to your country only, in the rest of Europe good examples are still expensive, ~40/50K, especially manual ones, honestly I’d rather spend more to get an “exotic” with a little bit of years on the shoulders, but that’s probably my case and opinion. I still agree with you tho, for 25K to low ~30K I would absolutely buy one of this.

[@MDrives]

That actually might be the case. You’re right. If the car would be £45k that would take it close to some better caymans and lotuses.

[@Tunioo]

Just bought one!

[@MDrives]

Well, have fun!

[@Tunioo]

@@MDrives dziękuję!

[@lucguenette7534]

Me too

[@MDrives]

@@lucguenette7534 great!

[@Hantoshman]

What an amazing car

[@MDrives]

It truly is.

[@quitya95]

On the fence between this and the f82 m4. The interior of the M2 is sorta disappointing, leather-wise. I would love to partially track my car at times. How does the n55 stands next to the s55 when it comes to cooling and overall reliability, in a stock to stock comparison (just slight exhaust tweaks I guess)?

[@MDrives]

Both are good engines. In s55 there’s an issue with crank hub. They sound completely different. N55 sounds much better but you’re right about the interior.

[@BrOkEnSkAtEr1295]

Dude, a 70k mile example in the US sells for about 35k-40k… with rent being over 2k a month, I can afford it but I’d be scraping by 🙄🙄

[@MDrives]

I’m glad they aren’t that expensive here. Regards 👋

[@vollcare4076]

35-40k British pounds ?

[@Nike427]

Errrrm just to say I sold my OG LBB Manaual M2 with MPE system HK, Full BMWSH, Carbon exterior pack, and interior carbon parts as well inside 85k on the clock but did have 7 owners But it went for £19k in the end. Sooo yeah they are definitely going for cheaper than 22k right now.

[@dafaqking]

7 owners 💀 What happened?

[@Nike427]

@@dafaqking my thoughts was a lot of pcp owners looking at the history someone had it for good three years so up to 2019 and then went back into BMW circulation and then I owned it for 15 months/15k miles. So yeah but tbf the service history was good and it was all documented at main dealers.

[@dafaqking]

@@Nike427 Ah, got it. Glad you had some fun with the M2!

[@Nike427]

@@dafaqking yeah it was great fun and my third M car. Currently have. 2016 M3 comp in satin grey. But I had M4 before M2 and E92 M3 before that. All different beasts. 😌😌

[@MDrives]

It’s not uncommon with the these cars. Mine had 4 owners in the first two years.

[@henkklynsmith57]

Amazing review

[@MDrives]

Thank you. Regards 👋

[@1up869]

F87: Fun! Butifull! Not too big, fits on Euro roads & parking. Usefull backseat Resonalble price/cost

[@MDrives]

Perfect summary. I wouldn’t add add plenty of aftermarket and tuning mods. Cons: loud and bit stiff

[@shuweb]

Also people don’t realise how rare the manual M2 is in the uk, 664 only in OG, 428 in comp, and 37 CS. Compare that to 1Ms…and they very similar numbers.

[@MDrives]

Maybe it will help the values in the future.

[@psychosaif]

You forgot to mention how easy it is to get it sideways :)

[@MDrives]

Yes, that definitely a party trick of this car. I love it.

[@ILMARANZ]

Unfortunately here in Italy prices are almost double… 😢

[@MDrives]

Wow. That’s a shame.

[@McGubbins42]

Greetings from Oulu, Finland. Not sure about M2 prices here - I will look when I get home to Yorkshire.

[@MDrives]

Hi. How’s your trip?

[@McGubbins42]

@@MDrives Germany was blessedly quiet. Poland tolls were awkward as I don’t have a passenger. Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland have all been baking hot. Interesting to see new countries but the roads are rather dull. 2000 miles covered this week.

[@JesseLeePeterson9]

What are the servicing/tyre costs like on this beast? I love the look of it, won’t be doing any mods, I’m in the uk.

[@MDrives]

Hi. It’s not too bad. Probably still up to 2x more than regular BMW but still far less than for example s55 cars as you get a lot of the cost doubled (air filters, turbos etc). Find a specialist and forget about BMW dealers.

[@BatManHDdeluxe]

Im currently looking for a m2c in germany. There are non low milage ones, with good package for under ~53k€ 🤔

[@MDrives]

@@BatManHDdeluxe that’s not great. I think we are spoiled here in UK

[@IdLoveAGT4RS]

Really wanting to pickup an m2, but wastegate rattle, and all the supposed interior creaks is kinda putting me off, is it still worth it ?

[@MDrives]

Not all of them have the rattle and even so, I don’t really notice it any more. Creaks, you can always deal with them. You would love the car if you are really looking for a raw driving experience!

[@IdLoveAGT4RS]

@@MDrives Yeah, currently bored of my car just not engaging to drive,its really between m2 or porsche cayman 981, both in manual. Do you think the sports cat on m2 makes the rattle worse/more audible ?

[@MDrives]

@@IdLoveAGT4RS no. It has nothing to do with it. Honestly it’s not loud. I’m one of those guys who’s sensitive to all drones, and background noises. I bet majority of people would ever know that the car has the rattle.

[@zildog]

A shame you didn't go into what problems you had. I have had an OG 2017 pre-LCI with 85,000 miles on it for a year now and I have not enjoyed it one bit.. YET. The water pump shat itself. Then I had to overhaul the entire cooling system including all pulleys, hoses, bolts, clamps and ancillaries. The front and rear brake and hub assemblies are rusted out and also need a complete overhaul top to bottom. Damage a driveshaft? That's 500 GBP. Granted, in Japan, I paid 12500 GBP for it drive-away, but have since spent 5000 GBP on parts - most of them I'm doing myself because Japanese workshops r@pe customers on anything Euro. Market prices for this car in Japan - at this mileage - are about 14,000 ~ 15,000 GBP but you're going to have to change a LOT of things to get it back up to fresh - and even then, the car has STILL done 80,000 miles. Don't think I'll ever do this again and it is the ONLY car - out of hundreds - that has ever given me this many fk'n headaches.

[@MDrives]

In fact I did a video on the issues I had just a few months ago. Check it out. I definitely never heard of as many issues as you’re talking about but tbh, I don’t think there that many M2 with high milage.

[@zildog]

@@MDrives No there aren't but there will be and like me, people are going to learn the hard way that, like cats, when they are young kittens, they're so much fun to play with but as they get older, they will give you a lot of problems. There's a reason most people dump them after they hit past their dealer guarantee/warrantee periods. I'll have a look at your other video. Cheers.

[@Ghost_Of_Diogenes]

This is pretty typical of any BMW at this mileage due to the parts they use. Not exclusive to the M2 at all. Or BMW for that matter. Water pumps fail.

[@optidalfprime3904]

I wish germany had the used car market of the UK. 65K miles, 33.500 GBP is the very cheapest I could find and we build the goddamn things. Right now I am in the market for a 235I. An 80k Miles model costs 21000 GBP. Again, we build the goddamn cars. They are a domestic product.

[@MDrives]

That what additional taxes do I guess. It’s crazy that they cost a lot more where they are made. I hope you’ll find one and you will not stop smiling. 🤞🏻

[@Haenki]

I'm not a fan of LBB, it is a nice colour but it's the sort of colour you an only see so often before getting tired of it. I live in an area that has many M2s and the LBB hype dies down quickly. I ordered my Comp new (with it's vast list of about 4 options) myself and have owned it almost exactly 5 years now (20th May 2019) and 99k Km. I ordered it Hockenheim silver with the M437 wheels that are now used for winter tyres and I have added a set of 763M that I had painted Bronze for the summer. (I don't like the 788M bicycle wheels) I have thought about selling and getting an Emira or a Cayman GTS4.0 quite a few times but I can't bare the idea of selling the M2, I've got 3 cars at the moment, but the M2 is just my baby.

[@MDrives]

I wanted LBB but in a comp I would probably go with SO. They are great value for money, that’s why it’s so difficult to sell them. Regards 👋

[@Daveyboy_RS3]

I can tell you that in the US, You will not get one with low mileage for £25k ($32k). More like $40k. And a high mileage OG M2 with 80k plus miles, probably $30k. You might only get into the High 20s, If you get one with over 100,000 mi, or a salvage title

[@MDrives]

It’s crazy how “cheap” they are in UK compared to other countries.

[@Daveyboy_RS3]

@@MDrivesYeah ever since Biden came into office 4 years ago, everything here is beyond expensive!

[@Stefan29vc]

Lovely video, is the exhaust standard?

[@MDrives]

The exhaust is, but I have 200 cel sport cat.

[@user-tc9xp8qm3f]

If I have money I’ll buy it RN!!! Gimme money bros!!!

[@MDrives]

Work hard and you’ll get there eventually. Regards 👋🏻

[@Peakwanderer]

Hmm and the road tax (VED) at £190 (?) is less than the £210 on a Micra!

[@bikezone8099]

Depends on the year. If you buy a 2016 one, sadly it's more because of the weird rule changes on tax in April 17. If you get an LCI one its £190 now which is great :) Crazy that its less than a micra haha

[@MDrives]

Unfortunately mine was registered before 1 April so it’s higher

[@simonehayes4911]

@@MDrives Same Ours is a late 2016 so tax is just over £300 Still not too bad though especially when compared to R32’s etc at £720 🤢🤯 Ps Get yourself some comp seats…… by far thenicest upgrade we made to our OG and bagged a bargain pair too at just over £1k 👍

[@MDrives]

@@simonehayes4911one day I will. Thanks

[@bikezone8099]

@@simonehayes4911 damn 1k for the pair what a steal! I've been trying to find some for ages, absolutely the one thing I want to change about my one

[@keltecdan]

I’d buy one however there’s only one problem. I don’t have any money for one. I’ll settle with a BMW F900r motorcycle instead.

[@MDrives]

I bet it will be fun too

[@alexamorin5534]

Help.. cant decide if I should go M2 or Z4MC

[@MDrives]

I never drove Z4M so can’t help you with that. Although, it’s a nice dilemma to have.

[@Jonzie1997]

How does this compare to m140?

[@MDrives]

Have a look at the comparison I made BMW M140i vs M2 - how BMW's top hot hatch compares to M equivalent. Long and detailed road test. 4K kzbin.info/www/bejne/eITVeKOmprh5rZI

[@Yhyujss]

It's is a stunner for sure but if i was going to tune a engine I would prefer a closed deck than open deck the car is a Frankenstein made from parts f80 f82 .the car is a m car and it's got n55b30 variant I mean the Mlite have got a better engine than that .if I was going to buy a m. car and open the hood and I found the n55 in there I would feel cheated I mean at least BMW could I put an S engine like f80 f82 or m2cs.

[@MDrives]

I get your point but this really isn’t something which concerns me personally. I think it sounds great and it works but it is a bit old tech now.

[@defyyourlogic487]

The N55 in this car is closed deck, with forged internals and some upgrades carried over from the S55.

[@Yhyujss]

@@defyyourlogic487 the engine in the m2 which is a n55b30to is a semi closed deck the point is that BMW didn't put a s engine in a M car.

[@qna95B]

@@Yhyujss Its not a big deal

[@tomaxo8651]

M2 competition looks so much better

[@scottclark1001]

nicer front but uglier wheels

[@defyyourlogic487]

Nah you can take that attached kidney nonsense. Looks like a pig.

[@markbiggart1265]

Are you kidding? The Alloys fitted to the M2 Comp are the worst design ever fitted to an M car. The standard M2 alloys were perfect from the outset. The CS gold alloys look 👌

[@bikezone8099]

The front I will give you, but nowhere else changed really for the better. The damn udder on the S55 exhaust is horrible, as well as the sound in general from an S55. I literally bought my one because I preferred the sound of the N55. I would steal a pair of comp seats though haha

[@LawrenceTimme]

The M2 comp looks awful from the back because you can see the massive rear exhaust silencer hanging out like a poo that won't come out. 🤮🤮🤮

[@Japplesnap]

No way would I buy an F87 now that the G87 is out. The F87 looks very dated now. The G87 looks incredibly aggressive and so much better than the old M2.

[@MDrives]

I have to totally disagree. I think new m2 looks very odd unless you modify them. But, the looks are very personal and the interior feels two decades apart.

[@Japplesnap]

@@MDrives Modified or not, the G87 looks super aggressive. The F87 just looks old now. It didn't age well at all, especially the rear end. Even without the S58, I'd still take the G87 on the looks alone.

[@MDrives]

@@Japplesnap I think majority of people will disagree with you. I think they aged very well and will become classics in the future.

[@simonehayes4911]

@@Japplesnap Said nobody ever 🤣🤡

[@Japplesnap]

@@simonehayes4911 Said me. And everyone else who purchased a G87. I sold my F87 for a G87, just like a whole bunch of others. No regrets. The G87 is a superior car in every way.