IS THE OLD BMW M2 STILL ANY GOOD? M2 VS M2 COMP

In todays episode of cars with Jay I take a look at the 2016 BMW M2 to see if its still worth your consideration 6 years on with prices dropping to as little as £25k. Not to mention is the M2 comp worth a £20k premium over it?
Many thanks to @DunstableM2 for letting me review his car!
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[@michaelshirley105]

The only actual difference with the suspension is carbon and aluminium strut braces. I think all of the extra rigidity comes from the aluminium one the carbon brace seems to be for show. The steering stabilty control and diff software can be coded to m2 comp software. I upgraded my steering to m2 comp it is much better than original more direct and seems faster. I have since coded gts steering which is even better same as comp just a bit more weight

[@CarswithJay]

Thanks for the comment this will be helpful to people considering the first gen M2!

[@peterwood2633]

I've done the bracing retrofit and suspension was allowed to actually work properly for the first time, more noticeable than steering feel although this was too improved. The sound from the N55 and a downpipe can not be underestimated vs going slightly faster in an M2C. N55 develops torque earlier from a dig so if into accelerating from a standstill OG has it

[@jackmasterdick]

Other than the carbon brace, is there another one in the comp that isn’t in the OG?

[@kleanthissarasidis8486]

Hey Mike, how did u Code the steering wheel like m4 gts. So to be more aggressive!

[@colsaffer]

@@jackmasterdick Yes, there is an aluminium brace by the front bulkhead, however, you would need to fit the aluminium brace first to fit the carbon brace.

[@dickb2128]

I've had my 2017 M2 now for close to five years. Whoever says the steering and brakes aren't up to BMW snuff doesn't know what they are talking about. I've been to Sebring International Raceway many times with my car and the brakes and steering are the best of any BMW I've owned and I've owned BMWs since 1971 !

[@CarswithJay]

From personal experience and from owners feedback. The brakes fade pretty quickly. Have you uprated your pads or brake fluid? Thanks for watching!

[@RaymondLo84]

yup, and I always blame myself not being able to push it faster... The car got plenty of everything

[@prof.d.red-maa]

@@RaymondLo84 Agreed, I live in the UK and have graced most of our national level race tracks and never found the brakes lacking, however... On the tracks with high braking levels, I found that they did indeed have a habit of fading in comparison to my friends M2s with Big Brake kits fitted, but I really didn't like the idea of fronting the £3-4k that they had and instead contacted the M Sport division and managed to speak to one of their race teams engineers to ask what they'd discovered during development and testing, and he just ("un officially", they're not supposed to promote aftermarket brands!) recommended what fluids and pads I might find interesting if switched to at my next service and then, there was 'very' little difference between my and my friends M2s.... And I quietly had the last laugh over them. If we were driving a 6,12 or 24hr race event, they would definitely have been the wiser to invest the extra several thousand pounds in a Big Brake Kit, but over the period of a single track day, just better fluids and pads is all the M2 needs.. And even then, that's only if ones experienced enough to push the M2 to its limits for a whole session of laps, for most people... They'll find the stock M2 brakes are quite adequate, unless they are like my brother in law and they have a lead foot and whose driving style is about as smooth as sandpaper, we've literally been in the same cars on tracks where he wasn't just setting lower lap-times, but was having to pit three or more laps before myself, to let his cars cool down. Like myself he's got a national level racing licence, so he's received the same lessons and knowledge as myself, he just can't seem to figure out what "being smooth" in ones driving actually means... He burns way more fuel too! He spends about three to four times in expenditures than what I do over a single year attending the exact same events,... How we drive our cars is just as important as how we spec and tune them. So many people spend a fortune on upgrading their cars to go faster, when they would benefit FAR, FAR more from first paying to go on some race drivers instruction courses. ... I know, because I can put my hands up and say, twenty five years ago I used to be one of them... I've set much faster laps in stock OEM cars on the same tracks over the years, than I used to set in a heavily tuned version of the same cars some twenty years prior.

[@jordanspencer8362]

@@prof.d.red-maa what did they recommend (unofficially)?

[@JOPOV]

@@CarswithJay The M2 Competition has the same brakes unless the optional 2NH kit is fitted. Not sure why you think it’s better in the M2C 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Bcfc-rv7yi]

Had my 2018 M2 LCI for just over a month now. An absolute animal of a car, puts a smile on my face whenever i drive it

[@CarswithJay]

A definition of a pocket rocket! Great mix of sport and comfort from the M2. LCI is a good buy as you get all the new 'toys' haha. Congrats on the purchase and thanks for watching!

[@prof.d.red-maa]

I own the OG M2 2017 LCI, I read about the supposed gripes some had with it before making my choice... No 1, Not fast enough! (Seriously? It will hold its own with pretty much anything out there and it's so well balanced it can actually use more of its power more of the time, especially here on our tiny, often cold and damp UK roads/tracks.. I've left plenty of £100+k performance cars struggling for grip off the line as my OG 'consistently' puts its power down to the road and just goes! Power means nothing without the Balance to distribute and consistently utilise it!). No 2, It's too edgey on the throttle and the steering is not direct enough. (Hmm, though I can see what they meant.. Manufacturers tend to make the steering heavy, even a bit numb because they are aware that novice level drivers will be buying these types of cars and will likely exceed their own abilities long before the car does its, and over-correcting is how most will end up writing their cars off, so they do the above to limit driver over input making it (In theory..) a safer car in less experienced hands but, for experienced drivers... It is an annoyance! However, it's thankfully nothing a GTS flash mod & maybe a few light mods for a few hundred quid can't rectify, same with the edginess, and a good stage 1 will not only give more power and improve fuel management, but will allow the M2 chassis to utilise it all FAR better than the OEM set up. .... No 3, It's too heavy! (So BMW solved this by.. Making the M2 heavier?! Though the M2 is fairly heavy for its class, it's by no means the heaviest and the actual power to weight ratio of the OG M2 is actually quite good for what it was designed to do, which is go around tracks really fast with exceptional balance! The OG is not as good as it should have been from factory, but if it really matters to oneself,.. Then just spend a few extra hundred quid and it will be, especially with tyres.. Make sure you get the right ones for the environment your M2 is going to live in, above all else I found the most beneficial area was getting the right tyres on my M2,.. I first got mine with Continental 6, which were good once they were fully warmed up but they were junk when not.. I fitted PS4-S and they just transformed the M2 and made it far more usable throughout the UKs weather and environment. Also, the one thing that few ever mention about the M2 Comp and CS with the S55 is that they inherited the same engine killing hub issue as with the M3 & M4, so if you get one you better make sure you have the BMW warranty on it, I ran a 2017 M4 Comp before "downsizing" to my used M2 and it spun two hubs in the space of two years from new(!)... Spending almost four months in the garage waiting to have the engines replaced! Thankfully, this is NOT a problem with the OG M2 unless one starts modding them up to +600bhp, but for anyone with a M2 Comp or CS its now something that will constantly be in the back of your mind,, you can tell yourself that the odds of it happening to 'your' M2 is very low, I did that with my M4 but it still happened twice regardless (And no, my M4 was not modded, it just had an MSport cat back, BMWs GTS DCT flash and a Evolve twin carbon air intake), and I know without question that, had I not had the BMW warranty, that would have been £40+k just flushed down the pan and very likely a divorce shortly after(!), and I didn't want the same issue with a M2, so I went for the OG with about £2-3k extra to get it just right and of the other M2 Comps and CSs of friends I've driven, I'd still rather have my OG anytime. .... The only real gripe I do have about my OG M2 is the seats, they're good, well adjustable and do pretty much everything they need to, but they look WAY to basic to be in a M car, I've got my eye on a set of M4 Comp seats to fit, but I like the look of some Recaros that work out to cost about the same and Cobra can do a custom seat where they swap all the electronics from the stock M2 ones into their custom seat, which again costs about the same (maybe even a little less going with Cobra). A good review my friend, but from my experience... I'm genuinely glad I went with the OG and saved myself thousands over the Comp or CS, for just £2-3k my OG more than holds its own against either, and when the warranty expires or I want to sell it, there's no killer Hub issue either I or the individual contemplating a used OG M2 have to worry about. Many used cars sales may offer warranties on used M2 Comps CSs/M3s and M4s, but if the hub spins they won't actually cover the damage, claiming its a known 'manufacturer design' issue and will send you packing to BMW, who will say Sorry, but we disagree... And then you're either tens of thousands out of pocket or stuck in the courts for years legally trying to get one of them to pay up... And I know this because, that's what my brother in law went through after his used sale purchased M3 spun its hub and he tried to use the warranty. I enquired how much it would have been to extend my M4 BMW warranty when it got near to ending and was quoted £2-3k per year! And if you're unfortunate enough to need any spun hub damage fixed without to much hassle other than time, then one will need to factor in the cost of a extended official BMW warranty, when buying a used M2 Comp or CS, which few reviews ever seem to mention when covering the M2 Comps and CSs vs the OG M2. Keep up the content, all M2 content is welcomed in my book! And sorry for the lengthy response,..lol, But I'm a true petrol head, 'what can I say!?'. Cheers!

[@steviegee8413]

I'm thinking about buying an M2/M2 Comp, hence I'm watching this video. Thanks for the extra info. Couldn't agree more with the "not fast enough" comment. If people aren't happy, they can always map it for a few hundred quid, job done.

[@jeremymartin877]

Great write up and you certainly have me convinced!

[@brenfaltermeyer]

Very helpful comment sir, thank you

[@marveysingh9592]

Just out of curiosity which 100k plus cars have you beaten off the line?😅

[@brenfaltermeyer]

@@marveysingh9592 Funnily (not funny at all) enough, in Ireland, the M2 is a €100k + car . Approx €116k starting price for a new one today. Not sure what the OG was when new, but I imagine it was at least €100k

[@RDN200]

I feel like the N55 is the Perfect engine for the M2. It dosen‘t have to much power so you wont have traction problems. It‘s the much more emotional car to drive, and with the mpe exhaust its one of the best sounding german i6 engine 🤩

[@ogmtwo]

Have a 2018 M2 and absolutely love it. Puts a smile on face everyday and the sound is amazing with just a downpie

[@tigeralpha1480]

First time I watch a video of yours! Great video, I subscribed

[@AshHorton88]

Great knowledgable review mate!

[@RiperSnifle]

Very nicely done video mate 👍

[@David-ju5ci]

Great review most helpful.

[@CarswithJay]

Thank you for the kind words and thank you so much for watching!

[@pressplay04]

Great comparison review! I’ve owned both cars and they were fantastic!

[@CarswithJay]

Really great to here feedback from someone who owned both! Thank you for watching!

[@mudayar1011]

I’ve had my 2018 M2 LCI DCT for about 8 months now. I’ve driven my M2 and a comp M2 at thermal race course. I like the M2 comp better on track but. I love my OG M2 on the street and in canyons. I feel like the base is a better option for those who drive there car often suspension is softer etc. if you want more power or better handling characteristics aftermarket mods and M performance parts can get you to the same level as the comp. Taken my car on road trips and many other places and I feel like I would’ve gotten sick of the tighter suspension. Servicing is super easy and have done my first service myself at home don’t know if it’s much different in the comp or not.

[@theanthonyv]

I just bought a used 2018 M2 two days ago. It’s incredibly fast, and this opinion is coming from someone who’s recently owned a GT4RS, GT4, and 911 Carrera T. The M2 feels as quick in spirited road driving. It absolutely rips.

[@DabbingStoner818]

how much? they are about 40k?

[@jaayyboy28]

Just about to make this very decision! An m2 comp would stretch me financially which no one wants. I'm coming from an m140i so I know both would would be a massive upgrade. For me an 2018 67 reg lci version m2 with every option wins as its weekend car, something to enjoy with my pals and summer evening coast runs and that sound 🔥👌

[@Chris-nj1mr]

Decent review mate! I own a very well specced 981 cayman S but there's a little bit of me that facies a change and the M2 is tempting... I'm not sure about the sound of the M2C, I think the sweet spot may be a M2 LCI (manual for me 😈) with the M2 CS steering flash?

[@bmerfan]

M2C, complete animal! (controlled), has the BMW DNA that we dont see so much of these days. Nice review on both Jay.

[@CarswithJay]

So much fun to drive and really put a smile on my face!

[@bmerfan]

@@CarswithJay every time!

[@adrianadrianp5305]

PS you can reprogram the electric steering as well, the rest is the same with the steering, 'rack' etc

[@trevonmoora764]

Good vid, I’ve had my m2 8 months now and love it. A lot of people haven’t really given the n55 much attention. Nvm got his m2 to 650bhp. There’s potential with the n55. Both are great cars. You should do a comparison to the f80 m3 comp to the g80 m3 comp. I’d let to hear your review on both.

[@Mac_F87]

Mabs’ stage 3 packaged is pretty reasonably priced for that sort of power as well, all things considered.

[@mattlau]

Also N55 sounds so good

[@Toymonkeyjr]

The m2 isn't about raw straight-line speed. That's knot why you buy the car. SO having s55/b58/s58 tuning potential isn't really an issue. I think the power you can easily push out of an N55, is more then enough for what the m2 needs to do. If you need to go faster, you either bought the wrong car, or your super slow in the corners and try to make it up with speed so improve your driving technique. The m2 is an evolution of the e46 m3, it's about driving and handling not power. If you want to get faster, become a better driver.

[@adrianadrianp5305]

The M2 isnt standard, different wheels, looks like spacers, engine tune, exhaust etc and they dont go for £25k the difference has never been a £20k delta either like for like

[@karolmaciejewski340]

Tbh I prefer stock OG M2 over stock M2 Comp. Till 100mph these are neck to neck, the power delivery is more usable, on the track u can feel that it's less nose heavy because of lighter engine. Sound also way better. Steering is the same literally every part number is the same so I'm not sure why you feel so much difference in it, driven both a lot and they feel very similar.

[@CarswithJay]

I was going to mention the part numbers are the same but did not want to cause any confusion. But the steering does feel way more improved on the M2C. Sharper turn in and both cars had stock suspension and new Michelin Tyres. The OG M2 with uprated pads and a good suspension setup is the real winner! Thanks for watching!

[@jackmasterdick]

Different tyre pressures and suspension geometry maybe?

[@CarswithJay]

@@jackmasterdick I think suspension geometry is key here. Tyre pressures in this case would have been negligible. Also the electric power steering software plays a part in the feedback. The turns ratio feels different in the M2C. Thanks for watching!

[@sonneyanthony6926]

Not from 100mph you are misinformed from 40mph 2nd gear the comp will absolutely obliterated a stock M2 the comps mid range is insane

[@karolmaciejewski340]

@@sonneyanthony6926 was many times side by side with comp they are neck to neck till 100mph , just compare 1/4 mile times best time for stock comp I've ever seen was 12.3s and 12.4s for a OG. the difference is only at higher speed.

[@Jcn-01]

Welcome back

[@CarswithJay]

It has definitely been too long!

[@franciscocaamano6726]

I test drove the dct and manual back to back before making a decision on buying new 3 years ago. I went manual, much preferred the extra engagement and personally thought it suited its personality and purpose much better. If your doing a lot of motorway driving and in heavy traffic comuting then go for the dct but that defeats the object and purpose of an m2c in the first place.

[@DaveEbo123]

First time I’ve come across your channel and just wanted to say great review! And really appreciated the costs at the end. Debating between a higher mileage comp and a low mileage m2. Price difference is 7k

[@CarswithJay]

Thank you very much! Honestly after seeing that the software can be upgraded to comp or even CS for the steering. Makes sense to consider the original M2.

[@colsaffer]

@@CarswithJay Also, whilst I agree the M2C is a better car, it would be interesting to know what suspension the M2C had on this - as it was definitely not stock - wondering if it had coilovers - I have the M Performance coilovers on my M2 OG and it really changes the feel of the steering - it is as you said - so much more direct

[@CarswithJay]

@@colsaffer this M2C was fitted with Eibach lowering springs only. A detail it seems I didn’t include. Thanks for watching!

[@TimChump]

Good video, I think the only M2 you can get for £25k in December 2021 is a cat S, £30k is more realistic I went for DCT, I think it’s too fast to drive with one hand on the wheel 🤣

[@CarswithJay]

To be fair I did review these cars during the summer but I agree. The 'cheap' ones are no longer that cheap but they're bound to fall at some point. The manual at higher speeds is definitely a force not be reckoned with! Thank you for watching!

[@livedreamrec2464]

Gotta start putting respect on n55

[@jim8462]

I sold my stage 2 m2 for a supercharged c63 after owning it from nearly new for 3.5 years. I loved the m2 and the sound once tuned and with added bolt on’s was mega ! the comp just can’t match the sound. But the n55 engine is just not strong enough the b58 in a 1.40 will stay with you and the tuning capabilities of the b58 is just leagues ahead. There is a reason the n55 was discontinued and the b58 is still used today. For me I hated the fact the n55 just wasn’t strong enough and the fact a 1 series had a better engine this annoyed me. But dam I do miss the DCT. If I had one again it would have to be the comp even though I hate the sound of the s55 but with an equal length mid pipe the sound can be improved.

[@Mac_F87]

You can basically double the horse power on a stock engine. Surely that can’t be classed as not being strong enough?

[@jim8462]

@@Mac_F87 590bhp with everything thrown at it massive turbo meth injection at a massive cost were as a 140i can get to the 500bhp mark with 3.5k spent.

[@jim8462]

@@Mac_F87 basically I wasn’t prepared to throw big money at it and personally it annoyed me that at stage 2 I was getting less power than some m140’s with just a tune.

[@Mac_F87]

@@jim8462 the lack of tuning ability is not due to the N55 being weaker though is it? That’s due to fuelling and turbo holding it back. To be honest I don’t think £9k is that bad to get 600+hp. It’s not a massive turbo it’s a hybrid, stock frame with new core. You could get a cheaper OG M2, spend the money and still have change left over compared to buying a comp. Yeah you would spend £3.5k to get the power on an 140i, then ideally you would want to sort the handling out and get an LSD. By the time you have finished there isn’t a massive difference in the cost of modifications.

[@jim8462]

@@Mac_F87 yeah I see what you mean but think it’s definitely more than 9k to go from stage 2 which was £2.5k they wanted 6.5k to go bigger turbo and dorche fuel pump. Meth was like another 2k on top and you wont get more than 500bhp without meth and I didn’t want to run meth.

[@FutureGameLight]

tell your friend to tune the steering, diff and gearbox to the competition software and all the improvements of the m2 comp are the same of the og m2. do the gts software for all of them and they will be even better. all these people with these complains dont even know how their complains came to be and just wine instead of fix them for 50 to 150 bucks with a freindly tuner. do downpipes, competition exhaust and air intake and with the points befor you have a proper weapon for the street. fo rear connecting rods on the suspension from the gts/gt4, get 265 front and 295 rear, kw v3 or clubsport, a bit better brake discs/pads or big brak kit with steel lines and you will have a proper track missle.

[@ReeceT20]

For me as a tuned M240i owner although the OG would be an upgrade in every way but the engine feels like a step back, I think that alone is enough to make me skip the OG and go for a Comp

[@defyyourlogic487]

I went from a 240 to an OG and I still think it’s a strong engine aside from the low end torque, the n55 hate is just hivemind mentality because it doesn’t have an “S” in the front

[@rodriguezahr]

Nice video. I’m in the market for a used M2 and found a 2019 competition model that has the normal seats that came with the original M2! Shouldn’t the comp have the new M3 like seats showing on this video?

[@CarswithJay]

It should have the M3 like seats! Someones sold them or something! Or the unlikely reason that they may have been removed from factory.

[@rodriguezahr]

@@CarswithJay most probably the first scenario 😞

[@Undercover1987]

Those seats were optional in germany but not sure about the uk spec.

[@rodriguezahr]

@@Undercover1987 🤔 that may explains it. The car is imported from Germany.

[@VladimirMicic]

25k pounds? Currently the cheapest M2 in thw entire EU is 35k euros.

[@jondoe19896091]

The competition has front parking sensors whereas the original/LCI does not. Could get aftermarket ones fitted but it was just kinda dumb not to include it in the older models I reckon.

[@lloyd.8272]

Why do you need front parking sensors? 😂

[@maxfrederick7703]

There is an inbetween you know? BMW face lifted the M2 in late 2017 and all reports suggested the suspension was better controlled and the chassis was more compliant. Maybe try one, I’ve had one for 4 years and it’s an absolute weapon.

[@CarswithJay]

Although you make a valid point. The video is aimed at the 'old M2' the earliest form of this car. This is because it is likely to be the cheapest and accessible to most people. Thanks for watching!

[@maxfrederick7703]

@@CarswithJay completely appreciate that…. It’s a good video, although you seem to really enjoy it and then say that the handling let’s it down is this because of what you heard or what you experienced? Every review I saw of the OG said it was great fun, I can’t find reviews where people complained about much (the stock brake pads are crap in both btw but once these are sorted, no issue)…. I can’t find any reviews that complain about suspension etc. doesn’t make sense. Also you say the DCT in the M2 renders it boring, I beg to differ it’s a great box and the manual can be very rubbery feeling. The car I heard was snappy was the M4 not the M2…..

[@CarswithJay]

@@maxfrederick7703 My comments were based off my experience of the car. I had spoken to a few owners including the owners of these two. All comments were consistent. I thought steering and brakes were not great on the M2. But you can still have fun. My Clio 182 has a lot of flaws and but you can still have fun. My 911 doesn’t have many flaws but it still is a lot of fun. The main point is I am telling someone what to expect. Bringing the m2 comp into the equation was to highlight what you maybe missing out on. A lot of car reviewers who review these cars when new have to say good things usually. It’s so easy to ruin reputations with car manufacturers by saying a car is bad.

[@maxfrederick7703]

@@CarswithJay I’m the OG it was probably the worst example I guess. Worth noting that the steering can be coded to M2 comp or CS steering with bimmercode. So for under £100 you can update the OG steering software, I agree flaws can sometimes make the car more interesting (as long as the flaws aren’t it won’t bloody start! 🤣). Overall I thought it was a great vid. But I’m very sensitive as I’ve got a massive soft spot for the N55 M2 I’ve tracked and tripped and loved my LCI DCT for over 4 years now. Previous cat was a cayman S 981 and I actually cancelled my carrera T order for the M2 when I test drove it. The fact that it kicked it’s arse out regularly put a massive smile on my face and that’s what it’s all about really, fun trumps precision any day (for me)

[@CarswithJay]

@@maxfrederick7703 Spot on! The fact that you can uprate your OG M2 and still save a considerable amount of an M2 Comp is a huge win!

[@Daveyboy_GolfR]

Why does the standard blue M2 In this video have the competitions wing mirrors? Am I missing something, or are they just put on aftermarket?

[@CarswithJay]

It has been modified

[@theAnomaly7]

Having driven the cayman and m2 comp, which one would you choose?

[@CarswithJay]

Cayman everyday. The Cayman was designed to be a sports car. The M2 is a 2 series designed to be a sports car.

[@bueffelheeerde2195]

M2> competition

[@dconcars]

Bmw grossly underestimate their figures - I've an M2 competition and I reckon its sitting at 430/440bhp stock

[@Mac_F87]

No chance, seen a few stock on the dyno and they usually do around 406-412hp.

[@RacksonRacksonRibss]

@@Mac_F87 That would equate to about 430-440 bhp then though ?

[@Mac_F87]

@@RacksonRacksonRibss nope. For example the 8V.2 RS3 is 400PS quoted, they dyno at around 395 hp/bhp. HP is 0.98 to 1PS and HP and BHP are much the same 1hp to 0.99 BHP. If it were whp then maybe it would be nearer 440bhp.

[@DjNikGnashers]

Either of these would be my dream daily. I don't think either has an engine which is that 'special' and honestly, I really believe the B58 is a better engine than both. But both are not really about the engine, it's everything else.

[@DjNikGnashers]

Well, I did get an OG M2, and the N55 and DCT (both standard) are not as good as my old tuned B58 and XHP mapped ZF8 HP50. BUT .... Everything else, and I mean EVERYTHING else, is better. Ride, cornering, damping, steering, looks, sound, everything.......

[@captainminecraftist]

the whole difference is the n55 tune cieling is like 400-450whp wheras its like 500-580whp with the s55 in the comp

[@Mika_1745]

Hi, sorry to jump in so late. My 2018 M2 puts out 465hp/415t only with stage 1 tune, upgraded air filter and Wagner Evo2 intercooler. 2 years of hard driving with proper warmups, cool downs, and timely care. I think if you’re going with s55 for 20k more, why stick with m2? There are plenty of options of m3-m4.

[@tractioncontroldelete]

7:00 - so a M2 is really just a E46. Got it

[@francisgomes9976]

"Manual adds more enjoyment, for fun, blah, blah.. blah" Im sure it adds more fun if someone lives in unbran or bz suburban areas. ..where country backroads arent available.

[@mikedenkinger9570]

Who said the F87 M2 was the "reincarnation of the E30 M3"?

[@rocfella]

Where can you find it under 33 000 eur in Europe?? nowhere. it is at least 45000 eur

[@Marcini007]

In Poland :)

[@qna95B]

the m2c looks better on the spec sheet and is prob the logical choice but the old m2 has more of a presence on the steet, when you hear that engine, especially with a M performance exhaust, you are like damn that sound like something serious you have a lot of fun driving it around town the m2c sadly sound way more quiet, this is in Canada btw, i can imagine with a opf it would be so silent

[@jamesreynolds4220]

The performance exhaust does nothing for performance, but it can annoy your neighbors

[@qna95B]

@@jamesreynolds4220 who cares about an extra 15 hp, when your car sounds like something on a race circuit, its definitely worth it

[@RaymondLo84]

You can flash the original m2 steering ... Get a Thor adapter for $60 and flash for $200?

[@ryanmalone2681]

I love the idea of a manual light-ish sports car. However, it’s so much slower than my tuned E63 AMG S Model that does 0-100 in 3.3 seconds and has that beautiful V8 rumble, especially with the mufflers off.

[@jamesreynolds4220]

LOL, why not compare it to an M5?? 4-Door and 2 child seats, sheeeesh

[@ryanmalone2681]

@@jamesreynolds4220 I do because I can buy any of them and they are all getting consideration with different strengths and weaknesses.

[@bobbyuykim]

I honestly do not understand this type of comparison. 20k dif of course its comparing bnew to used its just not a fare comparison. Why not used m2c vs m2 orig used to used the its not 20k dif anymore

[@KurwinSmith-eq9mf]

I love it the same people said jesus wasnt the messiah

[@tonye2458]

M2c sounds like a fart can and feels heavy in the front end. Go for the CS

[@m8_981]

£25k??? They cost at least €45k here :(

[@michaelmich00]

the s58 is worse than the b58 so no, the comp is gonna have more expensive repairs in the future

[@strongerandwiser2023]

You ain’t getting a bmw m2 now for 25k unless it’s got 60k plus on the clock.

[@CarswithJay]

The UK market has definitely recovered since the video was filmed. 60K on the clock is nothing really.

[@pilotxerau]

This video doesn’t even address the elephant in the room. The fart box tractor 🚜 noises and 150lbs of added fat for the M2C.

[@Huh-jx8kd]

Anyone who picks the M2C over the M2 only care about branding. I would prefer a tuned N55 over a detuned S55. The way I see it is if you go for the comp its because you can't afford the Cs.

[@emsbzrr8024]

Wtf is that title lmao ? I'm like in another dimension here. Of course it's good. Everybody that knows cars knows that the OG M2 is wayyyy better than the Competition or the CS. N55 > S55. The S55 engine is awful and sounds like a trashcan. It doesn't have any character compared to the N55. And I'm not even talking about the look of both models. The OG M2 looks so good and like a wild beast. Don't get me wrong, the Competition looks good too but that agressivness is just missing. It's just... less raw. I don't know of any single person who bought the M2 Competiton and didn't immediately regret it just to sell it and get back to the OG M2 right after. Back to the real deal.

[@CarswithJay]

I know plenty of people who have done the upgrade and not regretted it. Yes you could make your M2 performt he same as the M2C. But for those who like out of the box factory cars the M2C is the winner. The N55 does have more character and does sound alot better.

[@crackspider101]

Read your last line again and just think about how ridiculous it is.

[@emsbzrr8024]

@@crackspider101 I'm sorry you traded your OG M2 for a shitty Competition man. Trying to flex often leads to make very bad decisions.