Why you should NEVER Buy an Orange County Chopper

[@rogerborg]

Did you know that 95% of all the bikes OCC ever made are still on the road? The other 5% made it home.

[@clammerify]

dead

[@jkker05]

Haaa hilarious 😂

[@Jim-de4dj]

LMAO oh so cruel.

[@1979GenXdude]

Epic 😂

[@gdubya83]

If i spent that much on a bike it would be a Revelation. The one with a Huyabusa engine

[@johnmagill9496]

Losing $70K in 15 years? Man, I can beat that, no problem. I was married.

[@afrocansoul]

I see ur marriage- and raise u marriage + six kids.... never thought blowing all this cash could be so boring 😂🤣🤣

[@ivanrayanguiano3217]

👏🏼

[@badaxebreaks6141]

Lmao

[@muskokamike127]

$400,000 in 3 here. Not marriage, long story but a greatly devalued retirement plan.

[@johnmagill9496]

@@muskokamike127 '08 to '16?

[@gregsouther7293]

Harley Davidson is the only engine manufacturer to figure out how to turn gasoline directly into noise without making horsepower.

[@5CitiesDetail]

😂😂😂😂

[@5CitiesDetail]

That was good

[@wiz12]

Detroit Diesel has the same honor

[@FrankA-973]

@@wiz12 that Jake brake will remove your hearing too lol 😂

[@paulatudor691]

My brother had a Triumph Tiger 750 with it chopped and the sissy bar you can’t get off of moving. It was badass

[@EllinoItalos]

I'm not a motorcycle guy but I liked watching American Chopper because I liked seeing the creativity of some of the builds. That was it for me pretty much.

[@bostewart2789]

Ride it 5 miles to the bar. Sit outside with your buddies who also took out a second mortgage on their house to buy a chopper. Ride it home and polish it like the turd it is. Repeat next Saturday.

[@gerardschmidt6886]

Just don't drink too much while at the bar. That front end might feel a little wobbly on the way home after a few shots.

[@haxino]

🤣

[@blsaoo86]

To be honest that actually sounds fun lol without the chopper bit

[@Dave5843-d9m]

That why there’s no mileage odometer. It does little more than make some noise then go back into the shed.

[@mlauer]

.....these and large trucks .....and then people wonder why they can't retire.

[@scottd9448]

I always find it amazing that you cannot import a vehicle to the US (less than 25 years old) if it doesn't go through the US testing, but you can build any old dangerous crap you want and run it.

[@jamespeters2859]

😂

[@TheReaper42069]

‘Murica lol😂

[@jamespeters2859]

Can we nominate you for the best comment award. 👊🏼

[@scottd9448]

@@jamespeters2859 Sure! 🤣

[@namemcnamerton4249]

Blame Mercedes

[@seymourskinner2533]

After watching the occ show for years it was interesting how much work they didn’t do.

[@dangenovese8905]

Yeah they did farm a bunch of shit out.

[@chrismerkel9604]

$80K new $8K now what a complete waste of money!

[@CRKPXL]

@@chrismerkel9604 To be fair a new 80k BMW will go for 8K in 10 years also. A Rare good Bike on the other Hand should not, so i'm with you lmao.

[@jayt1077]

Didn't the original owner get the bike for free as part of a contest?

[@kermann-bv8um]

They were show Bikes that were'nt designed to be practical.

[@kshepard52]

Jay Leno was scathing in his review. On the OCC he owned, power to the entire electrical system was routed through the taillight, so when the bulb burned out... all electrical on the bike went dead.

[@lisaskatesIRL]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@yamabushi170]

Yeah that was insane. These things are made by people who seem to be both incompetent and indifferent.

[@sarkarbroadband]

😂😂😂😂

[@Dave1507]

@@yamabushi170 And they know that most of those bikes will be parked in some companies lobby to look cool and for that, who needs a working bike?

[@BalthazarMyrrh70]

​@@Dave1507exactly. Built to run for 5 mins while they tour it around the block for photo opportunity.

[@sanitariumking6523]

I watched every episode of American Chopper growing up and never once did I actually think that any of those bikes were being built for functionality or comfort.

[@dannymccarty344]

Really, every one of them? I put a jet engine in my Mustang last spring, and the chicks really dig me.

[@SwisstedChef2018]

Cause you were right

[@jerrycoon3369]

I think the tv show glorified the "biker" image, so people that had never really been interested in motorcycles, went out and bought bikes to be "cool." Then they found out that they really don't like the motorcycle scene. In my opinion, you have to love bikes to enjoy riding a hard tail chopper. They aren't for everyone.

[@why3011]

@@timmattle4730 dude those fights were TOO real

[@udxpierre]

Exactly, you buy a chopper you don't buy it to ride it any further than the local pub.

[@darcyphillips70]

90% depreciation pretty much sums up this market... finally some clarity and honesty with these show ponies

[@paulh6591]

At $8K it needs another 90% off; Maybe I'd pay $800 for it as a novelty bike, but I'd hate tooling around with those pipes sounding like a giant douche wherever I go. Still, $800 constitutes a giant wad of $20 bills.... maybe I wouldn't. I don't pine for attention and the thing has crap handling and suspension.

[@Pudgedaddy6]

WHY, did you buy it if it’s such a bad bike. OBVIOUSLY , you aren’t a real chopper person.

[@ThatSB]

@@Pudgedaddy6 a "real chopper person". You mean "a giant douche on wheels"? Are you the chopper gatekeeper lmfao

[@alexwotherspoon5630]

@@paulh6591 🤣👊

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

@@Pudgedaddy6 because he didn't notice it didn't have a speedo on it until he got it home... He knew what he was buying... an excuse to make a video trashing choppers.

[@nickpalazzi2121]

I remember when the whole chopper scene came out so I watched a couple episodes of occ and I didn't get it. I thought they were just gawdy, unridable pieces of junk. 20 years later, this guy gets a chance to ride one and confirms all of my suspicions

[@bliglum]

Yup, they were clearly just cash-grabs.. Cheap, off the shelf components, slapped together with tacky, gaudy 'custom' bullshit on top.. Their 57' Chevy bike was the height of OCC awfulness, probably the ugliest bike ever made.

[@John_21601]

I just liked watching Sr. And Jr. fighting.

[@angry-white-men]

True but people will pay anything to fit in. Look at the full size pickup truck scene now. In a few years when that scene is dead or those blue collar workers can't afford their gas anymore they will realize all people saw was them trying to cover up for their tiny manhood with their full size pickup.

[@bliglum]

@@John_21601 Pretty sure that's why most people tuned in, yes. Drama fo yo mama

[@larrypostma2866]

@@angry-white-men or because you actually need a full-size truck.

[@MarkJones-fw3mo]

I rode with a guy that had one. Gas tank held like a gallon and a half. We had to stop 6 times for fuel in a 3 hr ride.

[@edfrawley4356]

OCC never built bikes to go fast, to go on long rides, to be comfortable, or to have fun on. They build chopper shaped billboards that barely function as motorcycles for corporate clients who are only going to use them for static display promotion. There is no reason for them to have a speedo or gauges or even turn signals when they are only meant to be ridden off a trailer and onto a stage.

[@olrikparlez3152]

OCC's Brough Superior bike for Leno at least _looked_ ok. On the teevee anyway. Not sure if he rides it. I'd guess no...at least he hasn't profiled it on his channel.

[@rp1645]

YES, saw the CAT one in a bed of a off road Mining Dump Truck at ConExpo. In Vegas. It was all just for like you say.

[@veiledzorba]

@@rp1645 Just remember, if its not a CAT, its a dog!

[@rp1645]

@@veiledzorba What is your NEXT Favorite BRAND. Will tell you truthful that I OWN Stock in CATAPILLER it's been GOOD for me this Past year. Even after ELECTION do you Remember President Obama taking a Ride in CATS corporate JET to TALK with CATS CEO. Have meet the CEO of VOLVO, at Con Expo. In Las Vegas at there BOOTH. a very NICE Gentlemen. He asked about what I did as a Company, told him I Loved there NEW Pipe Layer for under Ground oil / gas Pipeline it's on a Exavator NOT a side boom like cats. A very short HEAVY DUTY Boom, like a HEALING BOOM Logger use to use. Interesting Idea using a Heavy Duty Hoe, instead of Dozer with side boom CAT seems to DOMINATE market. New ideas like the SIDE DOOR on SKID STEERS, only JCB and VOLVO, have them, instead of CLIMBING over FRONT TOOL to Enter/ exit machine Think its a lot SAFER. what say you to my jiberish, OR are you just a KITTY CAT Lover like me too.

[@veiledzorba]

@@rp1645 Meow!

[@johnwood551]

As a guy who started riding in the 60’s , that’s what a chopper was. A RIGID frame with no suspension but your tire. You had two inches of foam padded seat at most sitting on the frame as the spring seat was taken off because it was bulky looking.The long extended front forks from the California style spread across America. Easy Rider really pushed that style . With a rigid frame came the rides with buddies that stopped every 30-50 miles to “Have a Beer” as an excuse to get off that back breaker. As I’m an old guy now I think part of my back problems came from riding rigids . Cross country trips were an endurance test and you HAD to RIDE to Sturgis Not trailer your soft tail like now.

[@symcardnel1741]

I would suggest that ALL your back promblems came from riding rigids and maybe banging hoe's during all those beer stops. That IMHO is a well lived life!!

[@TheDodgeFactor]

I had a mate having a dig at me when I was 35 about riding a rigid still. Something about, "yeah mate, I can piss blood too" 🤣 I'm 63, I don't piss blood but I've got 3 fucked discs in my lower back and 2 in the upper. And no, I can't ride at all now, even with suspension. Plus I've got no right knee. The things you know when you're young. 🤣

[@philipparana9225]

Ppl lpl0ll

[@youngboomerragevictim8857]

Story about Back in the day sounds really really stupid

[@TheDodgeFactor]

@@youngboomerragevictim8857 no, that's you looking in the mirror.

[@tim8468]

Man, I don’t even ride motorcycles, own a motorcycle, or intend to buy one but just came here through the rabbit hole nature of KZbin. I’m impressed by this guys’ reviews honestly. Just look how he comports himself throughout. It’s refreshing to see this take and level of skill shown in the video. Congratulations all the way around. 10 out of 10.

[@techparkRPI]

Anyone who rides a bike in the winter is straight Jackass material. Does that make sense to you? Cold pavement? Cold rubber? Sliddy, Sliddy?

[@wrongthinker350]

@@techparkRPI you should go back to your safe space quickly then.

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

comports? w u t

[@fatkat311]

@@techparkRPI so you don’t drive your car in the winter? Cold, rubber, cold pavement?🤦‍♀️

[@1530f]

I think Indian Larry was about the only "chopper" builder that actually made a functional, reliable, custom motorcycle that would handle and stop.

[@jlover911]

Indian Larry would spit on OCC

[@jlafayet]

Mike Vils too. He must be weeping over this crap.

[@geoh1896]

I'm a retired welder and after watching a couple OCC shows I realized that Paul Sr. was messed up period. When he was running a welding shop he probably had real difficulties keeping employees. Then I realized they did not fabricate any of the frames themselves; another company did. Paul Jr. just dreamed bikes up using CAD. Then all they did was assemble them at OCC. I have never had much interest in choppers but what surprised me here was the prices they were getting for these things. I couldn't even put this thing on the road where I live without spending $1000 on it.

[@techparkRPI]

Sounds like maybe you had some false expectations. My wife also has this problem

[@chriskolb3105]

That other bike builder ( can’t recall the man’s name ) from California that married some actress, always said that they were assemblers, not builders.

[@brandonbritton3681]

@@chriskolb3105 Jesse James

[@csi1392]

@@chriskolb3105 JESSE JAMES. THEN THE FOOL CHEATED ON SANDRA BULLOCK

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

Kit bikes for people who want to look COOL and show off how much money they wasted. I never understood the appeal one bit. I definitely never understood why anyone wanted to watch those jackasses argue all the time. I'm just here to make fun of anyone who pissed away their own money on that ridiculous bullshit... especially the dummies who never even sat on a bike but sported the t-shirts. THAT'S genuinely funny.

[@pmh1nic]

When the officer ask "do you know how fast you were going?" you can honestly answer "no".

[@santorio7777]

Might actually try tht out

[@justinpennington7682]

You would have to find a school zone to speed on that ledsled

[@Taurocasio]

🤣

[@operator8014]

Lol, you think you're gonna get a speeding ticket on this rolling trash-pile?

[@garymartin1040]

As fast as this POS would go.

[@zamoro10100]

I remember celebrities ordering bikes on the show and then never riding them, putting them up for auction.

[@peacefuljeffrey]

Celebrities tend to be morons. Society keeps making stupid people famous.

[@Whitejesselink]

@@peacefuljeffrey zionist that own Hollywood do.

[@Yt_channel_lol]

Money laundering?

[@myclassiccarstory]

I got a custom chopper I built with my pops back in 2004. I absolutely love riding it but we also made it a softail design and built it where it's very smooth riding down the road.

[@JP18729]

These bikes weren't made for motorcycle guy's, they were made for rich guys who know nothing about motorcycles but wanted to be motorcycle guys.. Look at me!!!

[@raycyst8037]

I feel the same way about Lamborghinis.

[@worldhello1234]

Guys who are stupid rich indeed. ;)

[@badmonkey2222]

These bikes were made for show not for go, rich boy would be lucky to get a hundred miles before it broke down.

[@paulmaul2186]

As one of my motorcycle racing friends used to say 'Wow, that'll look great sitting in a wealthy athlete's garage.'

[@eerslink5498]

Exactly. Motorcycle guys aren't willing to take a second job to be able to afford one of those POS's.

[@williamt2951]

A friend of mine was so enamoured with OCC bikes, he bought one. He rode it for about 3 months and tried to sell it because it was an underpowered POS and he had no clue how brutal riding a rigid frame actually is. As I recall, it took over 2 1/2 years to sell it at a loss. Didn't Paul Sr. recently file for bankruptcy protection and Jr. asked Wayne Carini to help him sell his (Jr.) car collection because he, like his Dad, was going broke.

[@chrism4008]

Vehicles are almost never a good investment 😂😂

[@miroslavzima8856]

@@chrism4008 I think it´s called "amortization". Everything what has wear and tear is, like you said, very bad investment. UNLESS it´s really a veteran which is in deposit and can in opposite gain in vaule. This is why either estates (empty space, becuse you don´t have to pump money into maintenance like with houses) or precious metals (gold,...).

[@Phlacc]

Things that never happened for 100, Alex.

[@GregScavezze]

@@chrism4008 Tell that to Jay Leno....

[@chrism4008]

@@GregScavezze i said almost

[@krisjay1558]

glad to see someone honest about it. when i watched the show, i was "I'd never buy one of those" as the camera showed all these last minute tweaks and customization that you could never buy parts for. Plus there was no engineering in it, there was no plan for comfort, shocks, etc. even holding your arms up like that is fun to go a mile for show but after that, it's tiring.

[@Dave1507]

they were not meant to be driven anyway, they were showpieces for companies. That was obvious every time.

[@garymartin1040]

Nothing they built was street legal or safe.

[@project_nihilist]

For a chopper I think having a starter is weak sauce. The brightness of the headlight should be based on RPM’s

[@D.heARTist]

Ehh it was also a chopper. Choppers from the beginning were bikes thrown together to just GO! But as u said, atleast throwing a mesh of different bikes together u could atleast find or replace a part easily. But for $80,000….I would atleast expect 1. ATLEAST some sort of comfort. Shocks, seat springs, something. 2. An engine with WAY more than a 65 (I think that’s what he said) f’n horsepower motor.

[@KC-wi4gh]

I believe they always started with the Standard frame and mocked up as they called it with the same Engine or Motor if you actually live in the States which I don't.

[@jefife750]

I visited their shop in NY during their hay day. It was very large. Way more than they would have ever needed. I recall wondering how they would ever pay for the place. Well, I guess they couldn’t. Really, it was kind of sad to look at as it was obvious that it would not survive, long-term.

[@ulfhunden]

I worked at an auto auction all through the 10'sand had many of those choppers inflicted on me and yeah, they were universally awful. They were designed to be looked at, not ridden.

[@bkh5746]

Its probably all china chrome too.there are frame kits ya can buy for less than 2k$ all ya need is a motor

[@LorenFagen]

Yes, Sr. said it himself once when riding one out of a trailer..."Don't ride it, just look at it"...

[@jgunther3398]

@@bkh5746 no doubt they contracted some company to slam the bikes together overseas with cheaply as possible being the only thought. it was a fake reality tv show ffs

[@hardkore360]

@@bkh5746 that's the one major problem with these bikes, they all had the same damn frame and shape, none of them had a real personality or uniqueness to them other than a color scheme, theme, or a certain gimmick

[@dougbish5533]

@@hardkore360 exactly! They were iced up cakes. All off the shelf parts, stock frames, etc. Usually just cut a design into the fenders or welded on a few decorative pieces of tubing.

[@bullschittz7263]

70's choppers were real, The bikes at OCC were built by guys who ordered from the internet and real choppers were built by riders who got parts from friends ,shops or junk yards they put their soul into the bikes they built. OCC was there for dollars .

[@chizorama]

Can't really blame them for juicing rich suckers, that's my kinda brand of the American Dream.

[@b.x8429]

I mean, you only get into business for money hahaa what well is it for

[@gilbertkamageesik5352]

Your right ,I built mine for me and thats why I bought a Harley brand new in the late 70s ,because everyone else was riding Japanese bikes ,I didnt want to be like them ,Damn I hated Disco and hated Punk rock even worse .

[@TheSeanocasey]

That is exactly spot on. Build a bike that fits you. OCC was an entertaining show because of the drama. The bikes were nice to look at but I wouldn't want one. I'm still riding an old Harley that is set up for me. People on here complaining about horse power. Well riding a Harley is more than going stupid fast while sounding like a weed whacker without a muffler. It's about a feeling, a love for a bike that is easily modified to fit the rider. So those who bad mouth Harleys you just don't get it or you can't afford one so to justify and save face you talk about how you don't have one because they are junk. I've been riding for a very long time and I've heard it all.

[@joesurfer9754]

@@TheSeanocasey I have been riding my harley over 40 years. It is my every day transportation and completely reliable. I see a lot of old harleys like mine on the road. I NEVER see and old rice burner out riding and there were a hell of a lot more rice burners sold back then.

[@jasongarland3165]

A "factory" plug-and-play chopper just never had the same allure as the chopper the crusty old biker cobbled together out of various spare parts. OCC was a lifestyle brand and unfortunately for them, life has moved on.

[@charlestoncooper5265]

exactly i’ve seen some really cool looking chops that seem like they’re comfortable enough to ride across the country but they’re all modified versions of bikes not full ground up shop builds

[@danielescobar7618]

I figured these were just static display pieces you take to the nearest bar to attract some easy slag hole.. as soon as you catch them looking, you sest the hook and reel it in

[@robmanson2056]

Useful insight. Built a hard tail chop in the 90’s and took it round France. Tip of the day - if you want to go distance or touring, don’t take a hard tail. Afterwards my spine sounded like someone walking over raw macaroni, my arse was numb and everything hurt. Lesson learned.

[@csi1392]

RIDING A HARD TAIL IS LIKE RIDING A HORSE. THE TRICK IS TO USE YOUR LEGS LIKE SPRINGS

[@johndef5075]

Just like the mountain bike guys who say all you need is a hardtail. My 58 yo ass begs to differ...😅

[@rooftopvoter3015]

Tip of the day - if you want to go distance or touring, don’t take a hard tail. Your kidneys will thank you too

[@peterolsen269]

Looks like the Bars don't even line up with the Frame when you are in a strait away. These things are truely a solution for a problem that didn't exsist.

[@321CatboxWA]

YOU SEEN IT TOO LOL

[@peterolsen269]

@@321CatboxWA 40 yrs as Aircraft Mechanic/Pilot, this is just CRAP engineering. Good day sir.. heheheh.

[@joejones2847]

It looks like they are twisted to the right like he’s easing in a right turn

[@mytruthslays1303]

Yup, points to the right.

[@wp9409]

Saw that

[@skyirwin1445]

I remember watching the show from the beginning. Honestly, their themed bikes always seemed more flash than go.

[@alec4672]

For me I'd love to own this bike. I'd love to ride this thing. Sure it would only last about an hour and then I'd put it back in the garage for 6 more months but I'd definitely love it. Choppers were a fad that only exists in a niche community now. My uncle still logs with horses though. I grew up learning to appreciate the hard way, the raw form of the machine, I appreciate the by gone necessity to ignore creature comforts. Then again I have central heat and air conditioning.

[@jamescherney5874]

Having ride motorcycle for over 50 years I never liked " choppers" or had the desire to ride one. I always valued function over appearance.

[@ericsweeney7027]

OCC was overrated from day 1.

[@Vidar.m]

It was more about destruction and endless arguments

[@aceneto9386]

I think y’all fail to relize theses things were built for show pieces for big companies and rich people nobody rode these things hardly they weren’t built to be daily riden high quality bikes. They were built for the same reason people buy harleys they are mostly for show and the rest of the time there broke down lol. I hate these types of bike but even I can appreciate the art of them.

[@brandonmacon3317]

@@aceneto9386 my 81 shovel still gets round daily.

[@AdamMalcolm96]

Three 40min episodes to build one bike that is the same as all the other bikes with different paint... hard pass

[@sketchylandbeast4378]

I loved the show when it was one. But that's because I was in a strict home that wouldn't let me have a motorcycle. So I ate slept and breathed any glimpse of the promised land. Looking back at it now? It was tasteless. It had it's time, and I'm kinda glad it's over

[@davidschaadt5929]

When he finally paid off the $$70,000.he realized that his ex wife was right about not buying it .

[@inlikearefugee5194]

That's a bit too close to home for many :(

[@monsterMike62]

Only a guy with life experience could write that. Been there done that. Unfortunately, some of us have to learn the hard way.

[@mikefabbi5127]

Dude that's so LOL.

[@lynch42o]

some of us have to learn the hard way.

[@89sirmonk]

I just love all the attention to detail. Like the running and securing of the cables. Sarcasm. I hope you do another run of those gloves.

[@JamesK1963]

I loved that show when it first came out. It was always obvious to me that those bikes are made to be displayed in their client’s corporate headquarters lobby; definitely not for riding.

[@kevinu6004]

All show no go, built extravagantly but with little thought on functionality and longevity of riding

[@herbert9241]

Cheap standards and driven by profit.

[@nobody46820]

Yep. Miller (welding machines) even had one built with a trailer (for the welding machine).

[@jasone3962]

Exactly I'm sure the customers that would come in would get them custom built to fit the person's body but a lot of the bikes during that show we're just built to be like display pieces or for charity pieces and things like that a lot of them were so over-the-top most people would not even drive them. Almost like art pieces in a way.

[@johnkilo3]

@@jasone3962 Of all the bike builders of that time period, OCC was the lamest. Most of the other guys featured on TV usually made the entire bike custom from the frame up. OCC was well known for having a stock frame they always used and they just welded crap on to it. To the customer: "Oh you were in the army?" To son (usually yelling) "Hey Paulie Jr, lets weld some hand grenades and bullet casings all over this thing."

[@1206chaos]

OCC bikes were made for looks that’s for sure. Practicality went out the window. I agree with everything you’ve said. Now that I’m older my style of bikes has changed and comfort is my number one priority especially now that I’m approaching 50 years old.

[@Davido50]

50yrs old Is a big change

[@jackyale1291]

There pure garbage I recommend Hondas they last forever reliable transportation and a very comfortable ride

[@evening6402]

Comfort has always been my priority, even when I was riding in my late teens. Found out the hard way that ANY distraction when you're on a bike is a potential crippler. I also learned early on that "bikers" fell into two main categories: those who bought big expensive machines just to have something for the locals to drool over in the parking lots of the local watering holes/"biker bars", and those who bought them to actually RIDE - 100 to 200-mile Saturday afternoon jaunts, couple thousand--mile road trip vacations, and daily commuting. Either category is a valid choice (although I strongly believe that motorcycling & drinking shouldn't co-exist), but, when your yearly cumulative mileage doesn't break 300, you really don't give two shits about comfort. On the other hand, a rider worthy of the name "biker" learns pretty damned quickly just how essential comfort is to both your enjoyment of the ride, and to your safety. Motorcycle riding is dangerous: not the bike itself, but the conditions on the roads you travel. Particularly the two-legged human variety. So buying a bike that FITS like it's an extension of you, and not simply to attract admiration from envious onlookers, is what's gonna help keep you alive and intact.

[@jagastan892]

@@jackyale1291 and Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki. can't go wrong with any of them.

[@jackyale1291]

The new 2022 Honda super cub 125 goes 65 mph nearly 200 miles per gallon , very comfortable ride and they last forever had a trail 110 cc Honda and still runs after buying it in 1980 and sold it for 3500.00 and only paid 1195,00 then , there still in demand for the older models

[@FRv4S]

this guy was right on the money with all his description of the chopper bike. First video I've watched and now I'm a fan!

[@danmadison5087]

His meltdown about a neutral safety light was a bit much. I don't think I can even get on a bike without knowing if it's in gear or not. At least he didn't complain about the lack of a seatbelt light. Good video though.

[@yanhuang760]

@@danmadison5087 you sure have a loose definition of a "meltdown"

[@danmadison5087]

@@yanhuang760 I got my first bike in 1974. I drive the bike. The bike doesn't drive me. And I don't need bells and whistles to tell me how to do it. That neutral light was of great concern to him. If you can't tell if the bike is in gear or not. Stay off of them so you don't hurt yourself or someone else. I liked the video. I was mostly joking. But now you know how I really feel. Be safe out there. Assume everybody is out to get you. And don't be caught dead right.:)

[@MiniLemmy]

The idea of riding a bike with no instrumentation is scary to me, both from legal and safety standpoints - there is ZERO reason to not have a speedometer or even a neutral light, since these are not only practical but can also be stylised

[@micahlamarti5751]

Just like Jesse James said, those OCC guys are nothing but cake decorators.

[@jimh1369]

OCC were nothing more than bolt-on hacks. There were some good guys that worked there - Vinny, Rick and Cody, but they all moved on to other gigs.

[@josephmeyers3597]

Jesse's bikes are not comfortable or safe to ride either

[@antoniestrada1972]

Jessie was more of a gun guy not a chopper guy

[@gorgon352]

Well I mean what he also failed to explain was that was the point of OCC, they built show pieces not bikes for riders, I’m sure if they wanted to they could have made real bikes but then nobody would have watched the show, real bikes are not flashy enough for TV like that, you need something that looks almost movie like and over the top.

[@rjh1226]

He should have won that build off, Vinny was the only Wrench at OCC

[@maxxxmodelz4061]

When Jr beat his father and Jesse James in the Biker Build Off, Jesse was one of the first people to point out that at least his bikes can be driven. OCC and Jr bikes were all show.

[@andyleo8418]

Sounds like something JJ would say. Sour grapes 😆 JJ and Sr. were d-bags. Jr. seemed like a good dude.

[@mytruthslays1303]

@@andyleo8418 Jesse is exactly right and is one of the ONLY bike builders who is an actual metal fabricator. OCC was part gatherers who thru shit against the wall and see what happens.

[@andyleo8418]

@@mytruthslays1303 Jesse and Jr. are talented fabricators. Jr definitely excelled in artistry and design. Jesse off camera was a bit of an a-hole. Jr always seemed humble and wanted to perfect his craft. Sr was just a loud mouth jerk.

[@kmlonidier]

Cake decorators

[@thegoat5196]

That was nothing more than a popularity contest. Someone would actually want to ride one of Jesse’s bikes. Paul’s bikes look like yard art stolen from a mumble rappers house.

[@richardcheeseman6330]

corporal punishment was the perfect name for this atrocity. punished the wallet to buy, punishes the spine to ride, punishes your dignity to be seen on, and punishes your ego as everyone that looks at you knows you are compensating....i have done custom stuff for years. i don't care what platform, it has to be functional for the purpose built. this is great for a garage queen!!!

[@oldscoolcooldiecast1879]

That actually makes sence although I like there bike I see it as art kinda like some of those real uncomfortable cars that look bad ass

[@boofert.washington2499]

People that make compensation jokes ALWAYS have the small one. It's a jealousy thing. Congrats, bud.

[@pythonman8103]

Exactly! Every time I hear someone make a compensating joke about someones ride, I think they are the ones compensating. Definitely jealous.

[@mortensen1961]

@@boofert.washington2499: Complains about others "compensating" whilst being totally inadequate in all respects. . .

[@jayl8034]

Just seen your post. I couldn't agree more. When he said the front brake takes all he has in his hand to stop w/the front brake ,I thought the bike was grossly substandard. "Choppers" were meant to take the "good" from different bikes and make them a reliable/unique ride. I have met many in the process of their builds, and they always say this or that needs improvement. This bike was just a perdy one, not meant to ride, just show off. I stopped watching OCC after the 2nd season. I got tired of watching the old man dump on the kid.

[@impressiveprogressive7343]

The Chopper was supposed to be basic, like the Cafe racer it was designed to go from bar to bar in short fast hops. I still love these bikes and for 8k I'd probably buy one just for local use not for long rides though I like my back the way it is. Secondly, there's a reason why most people don't ride rigids anymore.

[@chumps7974]

Definitely for riding from the house to the local watering hole, or bike night

[@elobiretv]

still doesn't make any sense, you could buy a sports bike and still be far faster than any chopper and have a bike that useable in a corner

[@bideomanlol]

Makes you respect some of the old guys like Indian Larry even more.

[@Allison_Chaynes]

Indian Larry made masterpieces. His bike were phenomenal.

[@Jim.Thunda]

Then l guess l was one of the old guys, l built my first chopper in 1967 and rode in a patch club for 20 years. Most can't even imagine the fun we had. I'm still ridin.

[@davidschaadt3460]

Really miss Indian Larry.

[@RickyBobby42069]

Yep he was amazing. The chain bike was unreal

[@jacobuszwanenburg1629]

Maybe so yup I have more respect for those that did it on their own To see the look in the eyes as the story of a bro’s bike build is told ..... You can’t ever pay another to put you in the build

[@DGlennDavis]

This once again proves the phycological aspects of marketing, pure and simple.

[@DGlennDavis]

@S.p Bean 👍🏻

[@commodoresixfour7478]

@S.p Bean IDK some of these builders are true artists. They will build them regardless of the market.

[@Touchit344]

Poseur*

[@HighlanderNorth1]

@S.p Bean 👍Yeah, in 2012 I saw a bobber kit in a popular motorcycle parts magazine(who's name I can't remember), and it came with an S&S engine, trans and every other part needed to complete it, except primer and paint, for just over $10,000. They showed the complete bike with NO paint, and it still looked cool as hell.

[@bigwu100]

I hate that term. Poser. Because it dosent mean anything. Its just an attempt to belittle someone or something. You don't have to be some 1% badass. To like a chop. Or a bobber. And choppers are not about speed. Stylin and profiling is more like it. Man just shut up and ride. All this judgement. As for bike builders I like Jessie James bikes. And Indian Larry built some beautiful bikes. The bamboo bike holds a spot in my heart.....RIP Larry.

[@markh3271]

I remember a story Jay Leno told about his OCC chopper. While riding on a freeway in L.A. the bike suddenly lost all power. Many hours later his team found that the ignition went through the tail light and when the light blew the motorcycle quit running.

[@Jesse-B]

Crackup.

[@Quickened1]

that will ensure you're street legal before heading out...

[@channell11]

You know you're giving up comfort and that the performance won't match the price, but you'd at least figure that for the price it would be built properly.

[@blakebrown4060]

@@RFXCasey I mean..is it their fault Disovery gave them a show and that they became hugely popular back then? They just made motorcycles in relative obscurity until reality television came into their garage and commodified the entire operation.

[@markh3271]

@user name I found a post that gives a better explanation. "Jay Leno purchased a bike from the Orange County Store and while riding on the freeway around L A the bike stopped and refused to restart. The problem was that OCC wired the bike into the light circuit. The rear tail light bulb burned out and killed the ignition circuit at the same time. Needless to say that Jay Leno who is very smart about bikes, cars, trucks told OCC how stupid the wiring circuit was. A $1.00 bulb stopped a $100,000 bike from running down the highway."

[@FredHaferkamp]

Years ago a friend of mine bought one. Big motor etc. After 200 miles or so the down tubes both broke off at the bottom of the frame Pile of junk

[@davidglover2168]

I remember when Jesse James called OCChoppers Out! And said they were the worst bikes out there calling them wedding Cake Bikes. Guess What?!? I think he was Right.

[@99unclebob]

he built more reliable bikes then OCC and could ride his own creations from his shop in California to Sturgis without any major problems, buddy of mine use to see his stuff in Sturgis and told me they were a good clean and nicely put together units

[@kennethwalton2380]

I thought Jessie James was OCC what is the name of his choppers

[@SSinister_Grin]

@@kennethwalton2380 WCC... West Coast Choppers.

[@markman63]

WCC pumped out high dollar bikes for celebrities. Most of those bikes were never ridden for more than 100 miles and Jesse sold those in the 50k-100k range.

[@99unclebob]

@@kennethwalton2380 no dude, it was WCC West Coast Choppers in Long Beach California

[@chrisagnew2923]

Seems like a chopper built in a shop where people spent more time yelling at each other than building bikes.

[@ShinkuGouki]

And that's exactly what happened

[@DAVERYHX]

The bike is traumatized now

[@oscarb9139]

But only in front of a camera.

[@rexyoshimoto4278]

Yeah, sometimes after a night of drugs, drinking and dungeon busting, you wake up crabby and sore and broken. So beat the dog, snake the ol' lady's purse and snake off to work. So a row of customer bikes get ruined.

[@djhudgins8412]

@@oscarb9139 and you get "reality" tell-a-vision

[@nicholasn.2883]

I love the addition of the belt sander for your foot. Just really some excellent attention to detail

[@benlost1404]

I know right. I think belt driven motorcycles are crazy awkward and dangerous. After getting off my r6 or my fz09 to ride one of my friends bike I always find myself trying to put my feet back and if I did that on this bike I would be fukd in a heartbeat.

[@greetings8843]

You are kind of showing your lack of knowledge of custom motorcycles with this comment. That "belt sander" is called an "open primary" as opposed to a fully enclosed primary drive. The primary drive connects the output of the engine crankshaft to the input of the transmission. Harley motors' original designs have a chain-drive primary under a cover in an oil bath that slowly circulates clean oil into the primary from the sump, usually with 2 chains side-by-side and some sort of chain tensioner. Custom/chopper guys seem to think these open primary belt drives are somehow "tough" looking. When you change to a belt drive over the original chain drive, you get a bit smoother drive from the power-train. Not noticeable with bikes with a rear suspension, but more noticeable with rigid frame bikes (very stupid to ride on the street IMO). But the belts get hot and if you enclose them for safety, the belt can get too hot and fail. So they need either LOTS of ventilation holes or no cover at all. As used in a chopper, it's done ONLY for looks and to make the motorcycle LESS comfortable because your left leg has to go WAY OUT THERE to keep your ankle out of the belt.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Agreed, as the Primary should have a cover, but considering who made it and the customer's wishes safety was just not a priority...

[@tiredlocke]

@@greetings8843 You are kind of showing your lack of comprehending a sarcastic joke. Yes, obviously, it is a belt drive not a belt sander. Yes, it should be ventilated. Doesn't mean it should be fully exposed right under your foot. That's terrible design.

[@MyXyle666]

@@greetings8843 you are kind of showing your lack of social skills. im guessing you're the guy that everyone avoids talking to in the breakroom because you're sooooo much smarter than everyone else.

[@km6344]

It was Jesse James that called OCC cake dressers! And he was totally right! All their real parts were already made by other companies. They would pick a frame off a shelf, then a tank, handle bars , etc etc,, and all they did from there was dress it like frosting on a cake! That's not building a bike! They shouldn't even had qualified for any build off competitions! They didn't 'build' anything! There were guys like Billy Lane (awesome bike builder) and Jesse James, and many others, that literally taken sheet metal and used some old fashioned tools, hell I think I watched Billy Lane use his hands to bend and make their own tanks! Those guys had talent! OCC had computers to put their designs in and laser cut their stuff! I loved watching real craftsman with true love of bikes use their imaginations and bare hands to make truly awesome bikes! Watching OCC was just watching a reality show with drama! That's it! Sr or Jr would throw a chair and they got ratings! Fact is, Sr. started off with a metal shop in The City of Newburgh NY. (where I am from, so I know) owed all his creditors money and stiffed them all by going bankrupt! That's his MO! How he got a show musta been from some young moron that worked a local cable station who saw one of their bikes and thought it was pretty,, cause there wasn't any real talent behind it!! Anyone can buy computer operated machines to cut out the cute designs you make on a computer screen!! But show the guy in a little shop literally making his own bikes with his own welding and metal talents by hand,,,,, and that's the show I watch! Actually,, when OCC had their show room in Newburgh with all their bikes displayed,, I walked around and looked at them and thought to myself, whaaaat? Because a lot of the stuff just looked sloppy, or, how do I explain this,, just not really professionally made?? (ya know, because of the computer laser cutting and all,, just didn't look as sharp and pristine as done the way it was done, if that makes sense) I can't explain, but I said to my wife " I can't believe these bikes are a big deal". Let's just say, they don't look up close as they do on TV! Well,, that's my longggg 2 cents!

[@handimanjay6642]

“It’s was valued at $80K.” You can put a price tag on art, doesn’t mean it’s art or worth it.

[@laurap3244]

And just like a lot of art, these cycles are just money laundering operations

[@jesmondo5785]

@@laurap3244 so they're a front for an illegal operation?

[@jebidiahnewkedkracker1025]

This is true, this is why only the very rich can afford to "play games" in the art or collectibles "market". If YOU want to get RICH, or become richER, then one has absolutely NO BUSINESS playing with or "investing" in such HIGHLY VOLATILE "stocks".😐

[@weswolever7477]

A guy duct taped a banana to a wall, called it art and sold it for a big pile of cash

[@jebidiahnewkedkracker1025]

@@weswolever7477 Well if that guy was, say, "Pablo Picasso" or "Andy Warhol" then that is understandable. If that guy was named "Joe Schmoe", then depending on how tall that pile of cash was, I would call him a genius, or one hell of a "Used Car Salesman"😂😂😂😂

[@BeeKeeper37]

Perhaps the cast of OCC might have focused on building a better bike rather than all of the Paul Senior/Paul Junior drama.

[@e.c.listening326]

Just my thoughts. Would never ever consider a bike from OCC. Too much mouth flappin, too little devotion to quality. Rush each bike out of the shop by a tight timeline among all that bitchin. Nope.

[@bikerhighmiler8998]

Drama show to catch viewers.

[@dewalt4594]

@@davidmack4185 7.5 hours huh LoL This has to be one of the dumbest comments I've heard in a long long time !!! I guess you feel better now that you got that off your chest but damn that was stupid . How the hell did you even come up w those numbers ?? 7.5 LMAO and 5 hours wow , you sure are goofy

[@PeterSteelePowerINC]

@@dewalt4594 congratulations, this is absolutely the dumbest reply I've read so far this year. I'm not even gonna try to correct it, gonna let this joke speak for itself.

[@megaluckydog01]

@@dewalt4594 loop

[@yyz4761]

"Everybody's looking at you" I think you just explained why people buy choppers.

[@OneEyedJacker]

They’re looking at you thinking what a fool you look.

[@xilencered7788]

I think most people turn around and look to see what is making so much noise 😂

[@projectvaporz]

@@xilencered7788 yup

[@Coconut-lo7yd]

Yep.....kinda like that goofy barb-wire tattoo that everyone used to get and cut every sleeve off all the shirts they own to "show it off".

[@jackmeoff2274]

They have look at me syndrome. Those that have it are all douchebags.

[@Glock_Nico]

Without a speedo, how is this legal?

[@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble]

Looking back, the Teutul's always seemed more concerned with a chopper in terms of cosmetics rather than functionality. This video only seems to confirm that theory.

[@lakevapor5182]

They were more concerned with themed bikes corporation’s pay them and build a rolling advertisement

[@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble]

@@lakevapor5182 Absolutely. I used to watch that show a lot, and something that always struck me, but never registered back then, was just how impractical the choppers were. Yeah they looked nice, beautiful sometimes, but unless you rode them in a straight line without making a single turn they were practically useless.

[@jaghine]

OCC "theme bikes" were definitely more art pieces than daily drivers.

[@Jeffro23_]

I mean your not wrong, they were basically designers and not interested in functionality. Most people who buy their bikes probably park them in their polished concrete garages with fancy lights shined at them as show pieces. People who buy their bikes have “fu€k you” money.

[@Jeffro23_]

The bikes are more like themed art than they are a true bike.

[@Tom-ou2zf]

When I watched Jesse James on one build off , he cut OCC up into little pieces , sitting right next to them he said their bikes were for show only , they were not rideable . He was right . I like Indian Larry's rake , not crazy but just right. RIP Indian Larry. 👍

[@dennisreynolds6915]

I watched that too it was hilarious and epic

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

Jesse is a real one tbh He's a legitimately talented fabricator and engineer. I love his old show, Monster Garage. It was crazy to see the wild sh%t they'd build every week. Yeah, I understand that part of MG was scripted, but the builds are still impressive.

[@sonnyblack71]

I remember Indian Larry saying I make bikes to take you across the country not from your house down the street and back!!!😅

[@hazelwood55]

I also remember a build where Jr's bike was ridden by his crew all the way from NY to Las Vegas and JJ could not get his bike to start.

[@jtfike]

The real secret here is that by putting this in his KZbin video, he can now write off the 8 grand he paid for this chopper as a business expense.

[@deplorablecovfefe9489]

Irs has eliminated the deduction programs. No more deductions. No more fake businesses that "lose" money every year.

[@jtfike]

@@deplorablecovfefe9489 no they didn’t. That is total nonsense. Businesses exist and lose money and get tax relief all the time.

[@jameskrys5286]

@@deplorablecovfefe9489 Big businesses, not Mom and Pops.

[@nubreed13]

@@jtfike yeah no. I know somebody that avoids taxes by owning a "business" he does it all by the book despite how immoral it is.

[@davidr.g.9118]

All bussiness people are immoral because they all rip people off just like the government.profit is something extra.in other words unearned...😜

[@helipilot727]

How long until the frame cracks from having no suspension?

[@calel5196]

Here I am at 2am. Never owned a motorcycle in my life.

[@solomonstello]

I'm on MST. It's 2:08 over here.

[@jldude84]

You're missing out. Just start on something smaller and cheaper and more economical.

[@mr.remplisseur3768]

Same

[@danielleiva9456]

Hahaha same here, after watching some american chopper episodes and now disappointed

[@305Phill]

2:34am

[@Barb5001]

BTW, years go the Discovery Channel had a show lined up with bike fabricator . However the fabricator backed out of the deal when filming was about to begin, Someone then told them there might be this fabricator in in orange County NY that might be interested in doing it. In the end, it worked out better than their wildest dreams as it it became a reality show about a dysfunctional family.

[@patrickporter6536]

Pair of idiots?

[@MartyB-y4h]

I just want to point out that your handlebars are twisted to the right. You can really tell in the highway shot.

[@VictorPoulin]

More dad and son fighting please as I didn't seem to get enough of that crap growing up

[@mitchd949]

I can't count the number of times Paul jr said how "innovative" their sh*t was. Pure garbage!

[@VictorPoulin]

@martin edwards I bet he still throws stuff around when he gets upset lol

[@ethanboyd7843]

You beautiful eloquent SOB I love you for that.

[@MrXerxes415]

That plot did get super old

[@mrmark8603]

If you buy a chopper, you're not a motorcyclist. Plain and SIMPLE. Emphasis on SIMPLE!

[@TheRoadGlideRider]

OCC produced nothing but “Lawn Art”. A Custom Motorcycle to be seen, not ridden.

[@LtZerge]

They were almost always commissioned showpieces. Back when the show was airing the only one I remember them actually enjoying the ride on was the Caterpillar commission, that had its proportions changed a lot for a more upright posture and shorter wheelbase than their other bikes.

[@stanleydenning]

Agreed.

[@Heavywall70]

They did make “production” bike that weren’t commissioned custom pieces. They had frames that you could build off of as well.

[@Speedytrip]

If at least it looked good enough to put on your lawn hehe

[@lt.danslegs9737]

Not even that appealing the eye....🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ag666999]

my take is that OCC was a TV show aimed at newbs and wannabes who knew about as much about bikes as PT snr (..."WHO CARES, USE THAT PART INSTEAD, GET IT DONE, WHERE THE HELL IS MY LAZY FAT SON...") who was more interested in profit and objet d'art which didn't need to function as a bike because he drove a truck and briefly rode the occasional bike in a straight line at the end of a build...for the camera

[@jailbird1133]

Paul senior had been building and riding bikes most of his adult life. The shop was started before the show.

[@Thizzamajig]

@@jailbird1133eat a caulk

[@jailbird1133]

@@Thizzamajig real mature. And you cant even spell. Better not let your mom see you cursing. She might take away your Hotpockets and Mountain Dew.

[@andrewsandoz8005]

Great tutorial. Thanks for pointing out how poorly OCC bikes are manufactured. The show was always about family drama.

[@RandyWillcox]

15 years ago, when the show was still a big deal, I would hang out with my friends who live near OCC and were bikers. They had friends with real choppers who told me they got up close and personal with quite a few OCC builds and said the quality was awful. In fact, OCC had a few bikes on display at an event...brand new...available for purchase...with rust forming at weld points. They were absolutely all for show.

[@Barb5001]

One of my friends bought one of their bikes before they became famous with the show . It was total bull crap When he first got it, I have personally seen it take off by its self across railroad tacks and destroy its self . It would always automatically self engaged in gear whenever the engine was running. My friend called Paul Sr and told him to come to pick up that garbage bike as it was now self destroyed. At the time, I did not know it was Paul Sr who came until the show aired . Anyway, he got a refund from Paul

[@justincase4812]

Garbage, any competent engineer can see that immediately.

[@dlxmarks]

My memory of the show is a bunch of knuckleheads wasting a lot of time and materials because they were winging it through the build process. And then screaming at each other.

[@tajhayes7841]

Yeah, I never thght their bikes were REALLY functional, had a feel'n they were just 4 show. I watched almost every episode & paid attention 2 the builds & frm wht I was seein', they really ddn't put much in2 comfort or functionality, it was all glam 4 show basically

[@notahotshot]

@@Barb5001, so your friend didn't know how to ride, wrecked his bike, and blamed it on the builder. Thanks for clearing that up.

[@bruisersdilemma354]

I've been to the old OCC headquarters when the show was still in production and saw many of their builds up close in the showroom. I found them to be over the top gaudy and nothing more than gimmicks. I've also ridden with guys over the years with various choppers and they all told the same story that the bikes were essentially unrideable. I'll take my Softail Deluxe over them any day of the week.

[@Dave1507]

That's because they were never meant to be ridable. They always were showpieces for companies. Why is anyone still surprised by that?

[@sasapopadic384]

I take Honda any time...

[@grahambrown3718]

You lose $70K on the chopper and then spend $80 getting a spinal column reconstruction treatment, makes perfect sense to me 😂

[@raven69600]

😂😂😂😂 facts!

[@davidr.g.9118]

Yeah or maybe dead.

[@aussieoutlawalt8411]

Can I ask a question the majority of their bikes how are they even Road legal ?

[@richardalvis4695]

Choppers aint out. Its the fake assed people who rode them that are out. Ive got a vintage one from the late 60s with a 57 ironhead on it. Love it. In my 50s and still ride it all the time. Magneto, springer, hardtail, stretched, lowered, kick start only, goofy footed and a 9 foot wheelbase. Its the Christine of bikes and love it.

[@trevorjameson3213]

Right, but the ones like you have are REAL choppers, not those modern stupid looking things built for a TV show. A couple of years ago, I saw four real choppers at a bike shop, those guys had ridden in from out of state somewhere. Two panhead choppers, one ironhead and one knucklehead. They weren't pretty and shiny, they looked very old and well ridden, and they were very cool!

[@ironhead2521]

Amen Bro! I have a 76 ironhead 12 over rigged! I have rode a rigged for years and love it! But I am a real biker! Not a yuppy with money!!!

[@bailey78]

Sticky side down man.

[@cb-gz1vl]

Yeah mostly lawyers and dentists buying those now and skyrocketing the price. Imagine paying $80k for one.

[@P1983sche]

Sounds awesome. These choppers never did anything for me. Simple, tough as nails looking choppers are my fave. Less is more in my opinion.

[@ashlogan2049]

"Has a long wheelbase" = it doesn't turn corners too well

[@GeneralChangFromDanang]

Yeah, I notice him swinging wide like a semi in every corner lol.

[@John_Ridley]

I was thinking that thing probably has the turning radius of a tanker truck.

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

I remember this show, it was showing people with problems, then showing a minute of actual half assed building and designing and then cutting back to drama BS. Awful.

[@Tsamokie]

That is the formula for reality TV and just plain booooorring.

[@tiprat5051]

They wouldn't have had a show if it wasn't for the drama

[@casparhughey5651]

i see you never watched it

[@Tsamokie]

@@casparhughey5651 Adult males acting like Karens.

[@moshunit96]

I couldn't believe what they charged for some awful looking motorcycles.

[@robertthurman9866]

You are buying a work of art. You are not buying a daily driver. You can see there is no rear suspension, you can see there is no springing in the saddle. Why did you buy this?

[@nore8141]

Courageous of you to actually get on the highway I heard horror stories of pieces falling off😆. Good video

[@somecrazyveteran]

Man, when I was like 13, American Chopper seemed like the coolest show, what a facade that was…

[@debbieholts7369]

all tv is bs

[@polystictus]

Yeah, now its all tattoos. You can get rid of a chopper that you are tired of.....

[@heavyglassglass]

@@polystictus everyone on that show was covered in tattoos

[@V-max97]

Then you compare their work to that of Indian Larry and Billy Lane and it’s not even close.

[@dalewoods7308]

I'm right there with you

[@freddyfudd253]

I've always liked chopped bikes, but i have to say most of juniors creations, especially in the later seasons, could only be described as hideous. Basically he took a prefab frame with a crate engine and then welded a bunch of crap to it.

[@hardkore360]

that's OCC for you, Onother Crappy Chopper

[@codyhatch4607]

You're got that spot on

[@vincedibona4687]

And then charged 20x what it’s worth.

[@1988dgs]

I had always assumes the bikes from OCC were made as moving art pieces, they looked as uncomfortable as sht

[@mrspeigle1]

Wow that's a long list of deal breakers you listed. I think the thing that kills it for me the most is the lack of a speedometer, I'm a solo rider and I drive for a living So anything That doesn't let me avoid speeding tickets by obeying the law is a non starter.

[@84602]

Use your phone

[@GrnXnham]

@@84602 Yeah, these days no speedometer is no big deal. I have a couple of old portable Garmin GPS units sitting around collecting dust. They have a speedometer/odometer screen on them. Buy a cheap handlebar mount for your GPS and you are good to go.

[@eezyrider65]

@Tyler Braden No fuel gauge is okay because that's why there is a on/off/RESERVE position on the fuel petcock. When you hit the reserve, you go to the gas station.

[@403punk3]

60’s, 70’s style choppers are coming back but these “choppers” from the 2000’s I totally think are dead

[@JamesSmith-ym3hc]

Ask any old Hells Angel how to build a bike.

[@MrMichaelConstantine]

@@JamesSmith-ym3hc what because he is in an mc he can build a bike??

[@MrFrankthefun]

I've been planning an old school, 70's chopper build. I'm so excited. But you wouldn't catch me dead on one of these things

[@Steve_Kelly_Oak]

It was the wide tire Era of choppers, I like the fact they brought attention to the old school choppers. But never cared for 300s out rear.

[@ExTrANxRMaL]

@@MrMichaelConstantine if he's in an MC he better know at least the basics

[@300zxdriver]

Looks like the handlebars are not straight when you were driving down the road. Looked turned to the right.

[@BFSilenceDogood]

I noticed that too.

[@matthewhetrick5333]

I'm betting that's because the wide angle camera was mounted to the left side of his helmet. Probably tends to skew appearances.

[@bigjim8088]

I wondered the same if they was crooked or if it is something to do with the camera.

[@maxlimit18]

I thought the same thing.

[@Joy-R-Us]

You beat me to it...

[@BriceRoulston]

Cool video ,,still cant beat the look of an old school chopper ,just like the norton commando and the triumph bonneville ,horses,for courses ,harleys. Are so so cool ,you either love em or hate them ,,same as choppers i love them all ,very very cool ,

[@DaytonaStation]

After riding bikes since 1967 I found that the single most important bike instrument is the neutral light.

[@droppedboez4270]

After the brakes of course

[@Eliminator27]

Amen

[@zion_field]

I think it's the engine

[@dennisd.cherrysr.3326]

Back in the 70's I had a Honda 350/4 full dress bike that I rode about 3 miles back and forth to work. One day on the way home from work I stopped by my credit union and when I came back out my bike wouldn't start so of course I tried to figure out why. After squatting down and taking the side cover off and checking fuses the fuel and blah blah blah I stood up looked over and realized I had bumped the kill switch but not fully so it wasn't that I noticed it right away. Felt like kicking my self when I moved maybe a 1/64 of an inch and it started right up. Lesson learned and of course anytime after that it was the first thing I checked but good to know how well it worked.

[@JohnSmith-yg3nm]

I have a drz 400 with NO neutral light. no problemo whatsoever 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kcgunesq]

I always assumed that the average OCC customer was a doctor or CEO wanting one last chance to relive youthful dreams. That once they rode it a few times, they put a cover on it and never thought about it except every opportunity they could find to tell people that that have one before offering an excuse as to why they aren't riding it.

[@MrEazyE357]

I was kinda young and definitely no bike expert when that show was on but still kinda figured those bikes were uncomfortable pieces of crap that weren't worth nearly as much as people were paying for them. Glad to know I was exactly right.

[@Raz0rking]

Yeah on the same boat as you, they look cool but the way one is seated in em was it for me.

[@ceilingunlimited2430]

Anytime I see a chopper I wonder how the guy can ride for any longer than a few minutes with his hands elevated so high.

[@ken481959]

Those bikes, along with Big Dog, etc, were not built to ride farther than the next bar. And that's about how far you could ride it before the next breakdown.

[@spike.strat1318]

Ever wonder what half the “dream cars” on the hot rod magazine covers rode like? Pretty much like this as well. They are not practical, they are show /show off pieces.

[@shannonDRAGRACEING]

Since you know so much about how old hot rods ride send us some pictures of yours

[@mikehannigan848]

@@shannonDRAGRACEING behave.

[@TheSeanocasey]

@Bob Watters It depends who you are and what you are looking for in a bike. I've ridden chopper for many years. It's the same as hot rods. I mean you have to understand the ride. You build these vehicles to fit you. This guy does not belong anywhere near a chopper. That is the very first thing I realized at the beginning of the video. This is a crotch rocket guy all day. Even when he rode it he dressed like he was on a crotch rocket. He needs a neutral light. Really? No gauges. That's how it is on a real chopper. You really don't need that crap. I'm surprised he didn't complain about no saddle bags for his rain gear or no signals lights, no cup holder, no radio. Makes too much noise. Yeah ok. I mean that's the whole idea. Loud and in your face. What a whiner. Oh I hit a bump. Yeah you're on a hard tail. He's he crying yet? It's a hardcore chopper. Stay away if you're looking for comfort.

[@j.thomas7128]

@TheSeanocasey I'm with you to a point. Yeah man, know what you are getting into. That's 100% correct. My problem with Orange County Crapper is that you can build a chopper that isn't complete shat. They just couldn't do it. And, "art" can be functional, but all OCC bikes barely function. I recall when a patched bike club president picked up his OCCrap from their Rock Tavern NY location only to have the steering head come apart at highway speed dumping the rider on the NYS Thruway. This lead to Paul Srs house being set on fire and the local fire department finding bags of cash in his attic when they were extinguishing it. Even before the OCC show, when it was American Chopper they sucked. Nothing more than parts catalog bolt-on bikes. Even after Discovery bought them a CNC machine worth a half million bucks, they used it to replicate parts they saw in catalogs. Zero true creativity. OCCrap is a product of pop-culture; a good designer/manufacturer shouldn't need a reality TV show for their product to be popular. The Kardashians of motorcycles.

[@j.thomas7128]

You mean those hot rod magazine covers from 40 and 60 years ago? Technology has come a long way since then. If a mega manufacturer like Honda can R&D and build a rideable chopper safe for the masses, then you'd think that a shop that claims to be experts can do it also, but they didn't. Their bikes literally fell apart. If you like the Kardashians of motorcycles, then yeah...

[@rocket3man]

I always through the OCC bikes were just garage queen's, so fair play to actually riding one!

[@judgegixxer]

My brother had a Big Bear chopper. After 10 miles at 65mph my ass and top half of my legs were so numb from the vibrations that I literally could not feel them.

[@scottk3402]

Good way to get a full body massage ngl

[@chopperchopster]

I rode my 47 Knuck from NYC to Az to go to school back in 94. Its a chopper. I have others I built since then. Daily riders. Built correct they arent that bad but at the same time they arent goldwings either! Always build using spoked wheels . Those spokes absorb bumps . Always run the tires with lower air pressure than supposed to be . Thats an ol skool trick. Use a sprung seat. Or a king queen with thick cushion. Know where that motor runs its smoothest. For instance my 61 pan smoothes out at 65 MPH . Light to light in the city the bike wont bother you as your slowing down and speeding up shifting gears constantly. Moving your bodyweight a lot. Its the freeway that can be painful

[@sheepleslayer586]

I don't wanna like, because the number is perfect.. I will be back when someone else does it for me...

[@jaewhite2462]

Thats just the low quality Harley based engines they use

[@scottcupp8129]

I don't doubt that in the least.

[@WilliamNast-v1g]

THANKS FOR THE RIDE. ENJOYABLE!!!

[@MuahMan]

I feel like most people knew this 20 years ago watching them build those things.

[@kevinfox500]

OCC lost my interest with the whole "build it in three weeks" thing. Sorry, but if I'm going to drop the price of a house on a bike, I want the builder to take their time, and make sure everything is right, BEFORE it leaves their shop, and a less than 30 day turn around is not enough time to pull that off. Save that for the Biker Build Off shows. Most who went to OCC were turned down by West Coast Choppers after telling Jesse they want it in 6 weeks. WCC, then, and now, you are looking at a year, for a reason. Same with Bourgett in AZ, and Ness. Their bikes didn't need to get finished after delivery. As to buying one, never saw the point. Factory gets you in the wind for less, and holds it's value better, because you don't have to look for that one buyer that wants what you speced out, and has to match your height to safely ride it. Same with custom paint jobs. What one rider finds cool, and loves, figure at least 99 are going to be turned off by it, and they will hit the price, with the cost of a repaint. That's why my 93 Heritage got pretty much factory paint, and the only mods on it were for touring (1640 Screamin Eagle kit, Baker 6 speed, Mustang seats), after the rebuild in 2002, so I could sell it to pretty much anyone, when the time came. (Bought as a basket case, rebuilt over the winter of 01 into 02, them mom got sick. Kidney failure. Sold it to cover the medical bills, and do not regret it. Told her it was nothing but metal, plastic, glass, and paint. All which I can replace. Can't replace her.)

[@SnowTiger45]

@@kevinfox500 It's unfortunate you had to sell it to pay medical bills. If you lived in a Truly Free Country ... like Canada, you'd have your good health and this motorbike. And NO .... It's NOT Socialism.

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

lmao, spot on

[@kevinfox500]

@@SnowTiger45 Hell, it's only property, and the buyer is pretty much family anyway. As to the health care on the other side of the lake (live on the south shore of Erie), look at the sin taxes where you live, as that is what pays that bill. That and the healthcare cue, like in the UK. Yeah, it's free, but it's not always soon enough getting in, to save the patient. Both had almost full coverage as dad isna retired marine, so he had Champus and the VA, which extended to her, as well as coverage through his job. About 8 percent was out of pocket, but champus is a reimbursement cocerage, pay first, then get it back. No VA center closer than an hour, so travel also needs to be taken onto account. And then, veterans get priority over their family members there, so again, long trip, long wait, and we'll get to you when we can. Personally, I'd rather pay and get treatment sooner, than not pay, and die waiting. Not a slam on your country. Visited many times over the last 30 years, and loved it. Drove for a limo company out of Buffalo NY for 15 years, and did several trips into Ontario in that time and since. Been out to BC to hunt and fish with my wife a few times as well. Your country is beautiful.

[@fredfranklin8816]

This guy- WA WA WA WA WA cry baby. Just another 20 something that thinks bIDEN is a GOD

[@Brett636]

I recall taking part in a charity ride here in Indianapolis one year and they had the ride headed up by an Orange County Chopper made for the lawn mower company Dixie Choppers. The motor chosen for this particular monstrosity was an actual lawn mower engine. They started off by riding it about a 1/4 mile then letting everyone pass, and my guess is they figured nobody wanted to ride at the slow speeds that bike was only capable of going.

[@oinc7320]

I recall that show, didn't old dad wax poetic about that engine, wanting to build one for himself? I thought they built, kicked around built a diesel chopper too. Can only imagine that weight.

[@oceanbytez847]

They should revisit it with the deisel rotary from liquid piston which is much lighter now. might actually work!

[@pulaski1]

The irony is that most Dixie Chopper mowers have Kawasaki motorbikes engines, just not particularly powerful ones (around 35hp). Those mowers that don't have a Kawasaki engine mostly have a Briggs & Stratton engine that is similar to a V-twin bike engine, but not much more powerful than the Kawasaki engines.

[@ridingaroundwithmrbrown8942]

Born and raised and spent 90% of my life in Pennsylvania. Living in Japan now and i like seeing the videos. I forgot what roads always under construction were like

[@shutitfukface]

Sucks for you 😂

[@rudahb]

lol they learn something with the brazilians

[@_AndromedaGalaxy_]

@@shutitfukface you clearly know nothing about Japan. *sucks for us.

[@tacomas9602]

Why did you move to japan? Like it?

[@ridingaroundwithmrbrown8942]

Opportunity presented itself so I'm spending a few years here. I love it! It's a beautiful country. The food is amazing and the people are generally nice. The car and motorcycle scene is huge! The cars are cool but the motorcycles out here are next level. I see stuff I've only read about on a daily basis.

[@braydenneuharth99]

The Yamaha Raider was my first motorcycle and I loved it. This is the first time I’ve ever heard a KZbinr actually talk about it.

[@c.s.s.1723]

I can clearly remember at least 5 of those chopper “reality” shows around 2004. I thought that it was stupid then. It looks even more stupid now....

[@jimbartosevich498]

I enjoyed watching the builds in the early seasons even though I knew the "bikes" wouldn't see any street time. When they got to be more about drama in there shop I lost interest

[@jmodified]

@@jimbartosevich498 That was pretty much every reality job show: season one is about the work, season two is more about the people, season three on is mostly fake drama. On the newer ones they start in right away with the fake drama though.

[@ninjaslayergod6072]

But here you are running your mouth trying to get attention on the internet watching something you say was stupid back then.. stfu

[@teardowndan5364]

Well, most of the OCC bikes I have seen on the show while I had Discover Channel were for companies wanting something company-themed to show off and comfort and safety were little more than "something we heard about."

[@AclockworkPurple]

@@ninjaslayergod6072 I’m guessing you are still rocking those OCC shirts and finally caught on to why everyone’s been laughing at you for the last decade.

[@slowpokebr549]

I go to a bunch of rallys and bike shows. I kept seeing the same two OCC theme bikes at different events a few years back. I've seen Coast Guard theme bike a half a dozen times. It' was the cheapest looking thing. All the hardware was mail order, J&P cycle type stuff. It wasn't a runner and it had the crappiest, fish eye and orange peal paint job I've ever seen on something that expensive. The last time I laid eyes on it was at the Missouri state fair. It was starting to show rust through the paint and thin chrome. All they ever did with it was push it on and off the trailer and it wasn't even holding up to that.

[@michaelvoorhees5978]

I don't believe that any the fish eye etc. You'd seen that on the show and I never have one. They show the paint up very close all the time on the show and they're always perfect

[@vamountainman2512]

​@@michaelvoorhees5978 that is correct, believe the magical box 😂

[@dwaynemassengill2735]

Also, the handle bars are slightly to the right when you're going straight. When you made that left turn they were about square.

[@Elvirth24]

Looks like the triple tree might be misaligned. That's about how my bike rode after lowsiding. Wouldn't be surprised if the fork tubes are also possibly a bit droopy since they're so long.

[@dwaynemassengill2735]

@@Elvirth24 very possible

[@loufaiella3354]

yes! that would annoy the crap out of me.

[@russellhueners8499]

Tall risers will do that, there is a trick to getting them rite, work on enough of them and you will figure it out.....or not

[@scootypuffjr.]

In my dirt bike days, you would just find a fence post or tree to bash the front wheel against to straighten it after a minor crash.

[@azguitar]

Awesome truth-telling here. Thank you.

[@JGunit]

The big turning point from me was the biker build off between Paul Jr and Jesse James. JJ really put him on blast, and shown a light on the shortcomings of their builds that I was just not educated enough to realize.

[@mrpoizun]

shone

[@jlogan2228]

Yea and in the second build off they had to add some hard rules like had to be a rideable motorcycle bc even though Jr won the first one a bit call out was his fantasy bike only had a range of maybe 2-5 miles. Bc the gas tank was so small

[@alastairgreen2077]

shone a light

[@DanakarEndeel]

I also remember a buil-off where OCC didn't even make a bike. Instead they made some wierd Batman-like quad where you were lying on your stomach. Everybody laughed as it just looked silly.

[@razor1uk610]

​@@mrpoizunor _shined_