Why YOU Should Self-Host

[@mattjax16]

Dudeee you say the game play isn’t important but the fact your playing skate 2 makes me like the channel that much more lol

[@hoff._world]

he was a sk8r boi she said see u l8r boi he wasnt good enough for her

[@l1wzEqsWwy]

I mean I think we can all agree, it’s use case dependent. It’s not practical to always self host just as it’s overkill or pointless to spin up AWS for somethings. Can’t deny the fact that cloud hosting has some very nice benefits. Now also you bring up a great, it’s a flipping hobby sometimes! Do what you enjoy and try new things off the cloud for some new experiences!

[@Vitis-n2v]

4:52 the cost of data migration should've mentioned that if you store terabytes of data onto cloud and need to migrate it you also need big enough storage to move it into. So even if you were to just download it you will most likely have to buy a new drive just to accommodate all of that data anyway. I self host my stuff but you really need to know what you're doing to make it work well and reliably which makes it very time consuming compared to just throwing data onto a cloud and all backups, data redundancy, consistency checking etc. is taken care of for you. Example of "you need to know what you're doing" i can think of right now would be someone setting up self hosted NAS with disk RAID but forgetting to set automatic scrub intervals because they didn't know that is a thing. Doing that it would work fine but in a few years the data you haven't really accessed could potentially still be corrupted even though it is a RAID because it wasn't accessed enough to make the RAID automatically self heal the data(something regular scrubbing would prevent or at least should in most cases). So while self hosting is great, it's your data your responsibility and your mistakes can cost you your data :)

[@hoff._world]

yeah that's true, it's a time sink and an investment with many traps for young players. I learnt that the hard way roughly 6 years ago now? where I messed up my ZFS config and lost it all... was on the backup restore + photorec grind for the next couple days 🥶

[@tankman1301]

I've been self-hosting for soon one year, but I didn't open remote access yet, because I'm in a business program (.. and an IT-noob :P). I read into all kinds of stuff, but networking is complicated and I don't want to put my family at risk

[@hoff._world]

fair enough, it's important not to do anything you aren't comfortable with. Glad to see you giving it a go though!

[@Lavashyk]

I totally agree with the idea of the video. Self-hosting is fun and educational. But also time-consuming. Which why It really is an investment. I have really thought about my own NAS at least to avoid paying for cooud drives. And it would be also great to have a server for some open-source apps to run on my own machine instead of someone else’s. I watched your video about setting up home server, but I have no spare machine apply the knowledge. Still, I will do it in the future. Thank for the video.

[@hoff._world]

hey man good to see u again. Others have also mentioned in the comments you can get spare machines for pretty cheap depending on where you look, not sure what the used market is like where you live but old laptops, optiplexes or desktop towers with ~5-8 year old i7's can be sourced pretty cheaply at least where I am. What kind of apps do you plan to run on it, I'm keen to hear!

[@Lavashyk]

@ hey I am happy to see your reply! I think I would do so, for now I have my old laptop, but it is for my coding sessions. The mentioned mini nettop from hp or any other manufacturer, I will take a look into it and share my experience with you. For my server, the apps would be something like Jellyfin, for old movies or tv shows. And game servers like Minecraft, maybe. Cheers!

[@Palatonista]

Self hosting is sucha a sigma move :D Great vid my man ^^

[@hoff._world]

flexing on the VPS betas who cant install debian 🫣

[@Aerospace911]

I love how you brough up data migration and expandability.

[@Unbreathable]

Well, I like self hosting stuff, but I honestly prefer doing it the VPS way. Simply because all I host is an instance of my own chat app right there in the cloud. And for that having a VPS is way better for various reasons: - Internet here in Germany is shit (I have 1-2 MB/s upload speed, imagine that for downloading a file or hosting a video call on my app) - Having a VPS connected to the internet is much safer than exposing a port from your own router - You don't have to expose your IP to someone else who wants to access stuff on your server - If you have a dynamic IP, good luck binding a domain to it I see the appeal if you need storage and might get a NAS for that at some point, but for now my VPS in the cloud is doing me just fine.

[@Aerospace911]

use tailscale. no exposing ips, ports or dynamic ips

[@hoff._world]

yeah those are all fair points. There's pros and cons to every solution and at the end of the day you choose what works best for you. If you're deploying a proper full on chat app that other people will use I for sure see the appeal in a VPS, and even if I was to deploy something for work related reasons it wouldn't be on my home setup - time and place and all that.

[@royalpotato4733]

My fav days when hoff uploads new vid :>

[@hoff._world]

hey that's my fav day too ! howd u know !

[@NFvidoJagg2]

When i built my home server last year, I worked out the break even for cloud hosting (hardware + power, excluding internet) and it was 3-4 years. also all the DC around me are +1000KM away.

[@hoff._world]

busting out the calc I respect that

[@xan_dr]

i would self-host however, my internet play has a 1TB data limit, so i feel like i would hit that pretty fast, although idk...

[@hoff._world]

yeah that is a limitation alright... can always host stuff just for your local network, tho remote access is a big advantage

[@smonster]

i learned a lot from your videos as a beginner. thanks for that. I am not way more comfy and intermediate with linux, scripting among other things. So many self-hosted applications, plex, jellyfin, searx and more. It's so much fun. Even being able to use my custom DNS with wireguard when on 5G. Never can go back.

[@hoff._world]

wireguard is on my todo list... how are you finding it?

[@smonster]

​@@hoff._world It's pretty easy to setup; I am using it with pihole and just followed the documentation on their website ;3. Definitely worth it, they also have a script that you can use for creating user accounts, but I tend to like to do things manually so I can learn it better. It's super easy since you can use QR-code generation for importing that into your wireguard app.

[@pidojaspdpaidipashdisao572]

I am glad to say that I've never in my life used the "cloud"

[@hoff._world]

legend

[@d3rjan152]

2:18 "It becomes a little bit of a time sink" **Cry in Nix**

[@hoff._world]

just one more config bro I SWEAR just one more config please it'll only take one more just ONE MORE CONFIG BRO

[@balazsrako9528]

I'm not saying you need to rent everything, but your use case doesn't lend itself very well to self hosting. If you want big power, chances are you only need it on rare occasions, and it doesnt make sense to buy 4090's to train an ai once. Self hosting starts to make a lot of sense when you have small to medium sized services that you need to run constantly. And file storage/ownership obviously. I actually hate the 'you will own nothing' trend we're seeing nowadays with cloud services and even operating systems, do I appreciate your work!

[@hoff._world]

yeah that's pretty much what I'm using it for, couple of services that run my day to day operations and personal file storage. Naturally if you need AI compute power you'd rent it if it's too big for your desktop GPU we agree on that :P

[@yurisousan]

Your video cover are really funny man LOL

[@hoff._world]

it's the small things that count 😊 good to see you around again btw how u been?

[@yurisousan]

@ I’ve been well, on the road to become a programmer. Since I watched your videos, it was helpful to me to start to build things 🥹 and I am better than I was, now. Hehe. Back here to marathon all the videos that I have missed 🤣

[@hoff._world]

glad to hear it man! If you're working on any projects I'd love to hear about em

[@yurisousan]

@ I am working in a project to get some incidents via RSS official pages, like Slack Status page, and auto get this infos from on going incidents and send it to PagerDuty, for internal incidents page from the company that I work. It have been fun working on it (: everything in python.

[@odin2392]

Self-hosting was definitively a good choice for me. I got my server extremely cheap. I bought a used pc with an i7 fifth gen and 8gb ram for 50€, bought 16 gb ram and got two 2tb hdd for free from the boss of the company i was interning at after i told him i wanted to self-host.

[@hoff._world]

that is absolutely mega based we love a good bargain over here - so what do you host!?

[@flightman2870]

great video, heard it while on gym. 🦊

[@hoff._world]

im picturing patrick bateman with headphones on