Why YouTube is so TERRIBLE now (Asmongold, xQc and bad content)

KZbin has a near monopoly on long form video content and is home to many wonderful creators who put so much effort into making well though out and carefully edited content.
And then you have the parasite streamers who not only use this content to pad out their own low effort stream, but then upload their reactions to KZbin to directly compete with the original video and in some cases surpass it. This is becoming increasingly popular with content farms like Asmongold and xQc putting out this type of content daily and receive millions of views. With Shorts also being pushed on us all far more it seems KZbin is just getting worse with no end in sight.
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[@TheKavernacle]

Thought I'd shout out some good creators who I watch! Gaming: GmanLives: youtube.com/@Gggmanlives?si=95-Ar6jpK5eFygSz Kyle Bosman: youtube.com/@KyleBosman?si=dlwdA9gfFdAZ-jS0 Liam Triforce: youtube.com/@LiamTriforce?si=KPcvQY4ml2r04xfX Flandrew: youtube.com/@Flandrew?si=nnF-8h25MUJE3dS2 Commentary FunkyFrogBait: youtube.com/@funkyfrogbait?si=I8zm2W3s1o1T1V72 Tiffany Ferg: youtube.com/@tiffanyferg?si=LU3t8-MrXMNZWW_f Swell Entertainment: youtube.com/@SwellEntertainment?si=JcQ6-aAU7QqeZSCU Movies Amanda The Jedi: youtube.com/@AmandaTheJedi?si=kS5tXvzKJiGRSDVO Breakfast All Day: youtube.com/@BreakfastAllDay?si=z7ofo6n498J6PGH2 Ambience Focus SoundScapes: youtube.com/@FocusSoundscapesMusic?si=M3f0o4iu7pOi_wFM Slow Walkthroughs: youtube.com/@SlowWalkthroughs?si=GmD5cS3Eii7Ai7qU

[@MahouSoju]

If you like Gman, you'd probably like Civvie11! He's in a similar vein, but more older, DOS boomer shooter games. He does really good editing and is really interesting to watch!

[@arithmetikmilitantpoetry9548]

I despise those twats thanks for calling out that absolute cancer. Yesterday i got so desperate, i started looking for third Party tools that recommend me actually decent channels based on my subs and preferences. Anything except this senseless garbage YT pushes on everyone and that useless algorithm that is broken.

[@rogerbabin8175]

Thanks for doing this. I wish other youtubers would share the content they like more often regardless of if its related to their content bubble. Spread the love. I will offer one push back to 'good' react video content creators like Majority Report or Hasan or Vaush or whatever....they interrupt videos TOO OFTEN. Sam Seder basically has the running gag of listening to 5 words of the first sentence and saying 'stop'....then talking for 5 minutes. Are you REACTING to content or aren't you? That's an extreme version of this but almost every react channel does this...they interrupt mid point to go on their own talking points before confirming if that's even where the video was going. I kind of wish transformative youtubers would react less....but people like XQC clearly take things too far.

[@UNSTABLE111]

These are freaking great!! and i am already following a few of them too

[@bulletproofblouse]

Left-wing political commentary, streamer style rather than video essay but she knows her stuff: www.youtube.com/@NoJusticeMTG

[@MrMRMONKEY232]

The algorithm is what's killing it more and more for me. Watch hours of essays and leftist stuff few recommends. New game comes out and I look up one guide and suddenly I in the cesspool that is gaming KZbin.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

if you dig Starship Troopers OR Helldivers OR 40k then KZbin _may_ think you’re a fascist and it _may_ recommend fash content. if you dig all three then it will recommend _all_ fascist content. so that’s fun i guess

[@-........]

yeah, it's not about what really interests you. it just regurgitates the last stuff you watched very recently to keep you glued and scrolling. my start page is now full of stuff i dont care about.

[@DenyThisFlesh]

​@WeeWeeJumbo that makes sense. I watched a couple helldivers videos and then saw fascist garbage showing up in my recommended videos.

[@zakai-kaz]

​​​@@WeeWeeJumbo I thought I was the only one who had that problem, seriously you watch a few videos going on about the tyranids whole deal within the lore and suddenly KZbin starts thinking you need to be buried beneath an endless wank of the Imperium of man 🚩🚩🚩

[@alansmith4655]

The issue with it is that if you search for something or watch a specific topic, your whole feed gets polluted with that content.

[@Cycstorm]

My feed is absolutely crammed with Red Pill manosphere crap blaming women for all their ridiculous problems and insecurities.

[@fawnieee]

KZbin is always ALWAYS trying to get me to watch that nonsense. The amount of redpill and conservative media that's always being pushed into my algorithm despite never watching that sort of thing is so suspicious.

[@osakanone]

On the home page, hit the three dots and mark it as "not interested". Do this to all of them for eight or none full pages with a refresh and you can retrain the feed. I train my feed very VERY aggressively to prevent shit like this.

[@WilliamBrowning]

I probably watch 10 hours of Leftist content for one hour of Manosphere garbage. For days after watching that one video it's all pathetic Manosphere trash. KZbin has a right wing bias. Capitalism and Fascism have always been friendly, if not friends.

[@TabbyWithMittens]

@@osakanoneSadly even as I do that some of their content still keeps popping up. Sometimes I don’t know what it is until I click on the video and they beginning talking. Quickly bail out then lol

[@celestialspartan1176]

It’s so stupid. It’s like YT is trying to, insidiously, radicalize as many people as possible and push them to the far right by any means necessary.

[@wonderfuljoey23]

It's sad that Asmongold's video got more views than the original video.

[@jerardchico8440]

As if he isn't one step closer to being inducted into this thing called Gamergate 2.0. Here's hoping that there's other gamers who won't fall into that rabbit hole or pretend to let it become a huge issue into their personal life outside gaming or KZbin.

[@ShroudedWolf51]

Honestly, if you know anything about that outrage merchant, you wouldn't be surprised as to why his video gets so boosted. His audience is predominantly children who will blindly follow literally anything he says and every whim he has. Regardless of their level of interest in the topic, product, or concept. A few months ago, I remember a friend's kids watching Asmongold's stream, watching other Asmongold stream re-runs on KZbin until that stream was uplaoded, and then rewatching the stream they just watched. It's insane.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

What worst is when he spill culture bs like that japan gone woke crap video

[@Orverge]

He's a culture warrior now. It's crazy, because the only thing he's actually knowledgeable about he barely talks on. It was tolerable until he started doing the uninformed political stuff.

[@StomachPlug]

This. I think that Twitch/KZbin need to find a solution together where if a streamer opens up video during their stream that it should automatically open up a window within a window of the original video on the viewer's end, and then it would play it at the same speed and pause/rewind/fast forward to the same position as the streamer.

[@UNSTABLE111]

Can I just look up Nikke, Stellarblade, Yakuza Like a Dragon..any anime weeb games without being preached about "JaPaN DoING WhAT wOKe WeSt AiN'T" or "Up YoUrS WoKE MoRaLisTS"

[@nFyrin]

What's funny is that Yakuza is actually very woke and political. It just shows that right wing grifters either don't actually play the games they talk about or don't understand the story.

[@jerardchico8440]

As a Nikke player, it really puts a bad taste in my mouth when there's that one "gamer" who brings his/her anti-woke, culture war and gamergate attitude into the community/fandom.

[@fawnieee]

It just shows they already go into watching western media with a predetermined bias that's going to make them feel it's "woke" regardless of what happens. I guarantee you could have a cast of entirely straight yt men and they'd still find a way to claim it's woke and "attacking" straight yt men lol. They go in already assuming it's going to be woke so they'll nitpick every little detail to make sure their bias is confirmed and their world view further affirmed. And it's wild because so much anime has leftist ideas and messages. Just look at One Piece.

[@fawnieee]

It just shows they already go into watching western media with a predetermined bias that's going to make them feel it's "woke" regardless of what happens. I guarantee you could have a cast of entirely straight yt men and they'd still find a way to claim it's woke and "against" straight yt men lol. They go in already assuming it's going to be woke so they'll nitpick every little detail to make sure their bias is confirmed and their world view further affirmed. And it's wild because so much anime has leftist ideas and messages. Just look at One Piece.

[@fawnieee]

It just shows they already go into watching western media with a predetermined bias that's going to make them feel it's "woke" regardless of what happens. I guarantee you could have a cast of entirely straight yt m@l3s and they'd still find a way to claim it's woke and "against" straight yt m@l3s lol. They go in already assuming it's going to be woke so they'll nitpick every little detail to make sure their bias is confirmed and their world view further affirmed. And it's wild because so much anime has leftist ideas and messages. Just look at One Piece.

[@MangoSmoothy]

Gaming content is bait and switch by content creators posting a title sounding neutral criticizing a game and then you get 45 year old man angrily ranting about games being woke. Even I click off instantly once I realize now I have multiple gamers gamergate-like channels

[@SiIhou]

Even the polls are just the same people, we have Poll boy for example that just uploads garbage polls and is also a scammer

[@Zectifin]

remember to click the "don't recommend this channel" and if you accidentally click on something like that to remove it from your watch history. the algorith makes recommendations based on your watch history. works great for me.

[@professoremil]

And then he nonchalantly reveals the entire reason he’s complaining and making a fuss in the first place is because the female character’s breasts aren’t exposed or something, or how she’s ugly for using a face model from a real women or how she’s “not a real woman” because her backside isn’t big enough. Or the character is non-white/black.

[@UNSTABLE111]

​@@Zectifin noted....my algorithm wants to fight me

[@sp00ky5]

Cant forget the mouth breathing part

[@Danny-mp8dq]

These people are the reason why when I try to look up Stellar Blade gameplay I just get flooded with their anti-SJW garabage

[@UNSTABLE111]

same dude..same

[@LayZKimochi420BlazeIt]

they started making videos on my main game (dbd) because of some recent misunderstanding between the devs and a trans voice actress and now tons of transphobic garbage youtube roaches have infested the suggestion bar

[@ishisu_]

tbh no leftist should even go near that game, as a game dev woman im fucking tired of female hypersexualization, the devs in that game dont see women as people, they see us as an object and that is enough for me to never go near it

[@jerardchico8440]

Nowadays it's very hard to find a sane-minded gamer who is hyped about Stellar Blade and still be critical. Without making any of the typical anti-woke BS and buzzwords.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

if your video title or your thumbnail whines about Sweet Baby then i’m insta-blocking you from my Recommendations

[@rbdriftin]

Seeing asmo or xqc in a thumbnail or video is like finding a fly-covered pile of dogshit on the pavement when you’re trying to have a nice walk in the park.

[@TurbopropPuppy]

i think xqc has never had a thought in his head his entire life deadest eyes i've ever seen

[@skorpion7132]

Especially if its one such thumbnail where they have their mouth open like a that charcter from Starship trooper who got his brain sucked out.

[@johnjson]

is it my fault for also disliking Hasan's method of react content? sure, he does a bit more, but he's still stealing views and it feels hypocritical

[@moderndespair9922]

@@TurbopropPuppy yet he has more money than you

[@tylerblue9691]

I love this channel, and Asmon So this video is difficult to watch I do agree with a lot of what’s being said here though. Asmon is wayyyyy better than Xqc from a “moral react” perspective

[@skulliebythesea]

I have to actively seek out leftest, LGBTQ+, and femme creators. They DO NOT come up on my feed. It's all centrist content made by men. I watch 1 Penguinz0 video and now it's literally all I get. The algorithm skews right and it's exhausting. All the content being pushed is either massive high budget or mindless content that requires zero thought to consume. Edit: I'd also like to add that I never have this problem on TikTok. I'm able to get content for my hyper-specific niche, whereas on KZbin I'm only getting content for the masses, and I don't like that. An algorithm should be catered to it's users, not pushing out the same 5 creators constantly.

[@SpartanJoe193]

Yeah. Even the ones I regularly watch rarely pop up.

[@oldwellenthusiast8750]

i havent watched a single moistcritical video. i keep on getting his shit pushed onto me under other channels (a fan made clip channel tbf), it's like fucking whackamole. youtube is really pushy with certain content creators, i keep on getting NL content pushed onto my feed despite me clicking not interested dont recommend channel etc etc, and he seems like a nice guy i simply do not like his humour.

[@Weeniehutnurse]

I finally got out of that hole, I had to keep commenting and liking different channel videos from creators like Shanspeare, Tee Noir, Khadijah Mbowe, Contra, Shark30Zero and the Jordan Theresa. Then I clicked on a Markie video about the world cruise and now I get drama KZbinrs that don’t do research 😭

[@skulliebythesea]

@@Weeniehutnurse ughhhh I'm so sorry. LOVEEE Contra and Shanspeare. I'll have to check out the others! Thank you.

[@zendata4354]

im glad im not alone going through this lol, its hard trying to keep that stuff out my feed.

[@mattias2576]

Seriously I have been so frustrated with the algorithm this year, have to browse for so long to find what I want, and I often just end up mindlessly scrolling on shorts without remembering how i got there

[@hooting-ton5215]

If youtube weren't run by incompetent capitalists I'd assume that was intentional Make the long form content bad/hard to find and drive you towards the short form stuff

[@Svafne]

Yeah the algorithm really is shit..

[@iaintjesus9399]

🎯

[@dgjdtuvsth4051]

Just remove shorts, you can do it on pc just search it up on KZbin. Unfortunately there’s now way to block shorts on mobile.

[@linhza501]

My feed is actually not that bad. I constantly find smaller more niche channels that talk about things I am interested in. Maybe because I never frequent those toxic bullshit channels much.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

I remember when in 2016 you had reactors like Jinx were righfully seen as doing something wrong by most of the internet yet now in 2024 it's seen as okay by so many.

[@christopherschneider2968]

I mean. there was the React Channel way before that. In hindsight i wished the copyright the whole react idea kerfuffle went through. Most of their stuff had kids reacting to old computers or old people reacting to new stuff.

[@tsrenis]

​@@christopherschneider2968i mean at least fine bros content was transformative. they had active discussion in their videos

[@SiIhou]

@@tsrenisthe problem is that most of those old reactors got insanely attacked by KZbin, especially around 2020 and 2021 most of them are completely gone

[@christopherschneider2968]

@@tsrenisFor sure! I guess thats the thing with pioneers.

[@samtinkle9076]

@@tsrenisThat AND they asked other creators for permission when they wanted their videos.

[@star.lilies]

i used to watch asmon’s content quite a bit, and its so unfortunate that he’s gone from being a relatively reasonable person who put a bit of effort into his content and has now turned into this right-wing anti-sjw streamer who’s obsessed with just ranting about women and gay people in video games. it seems like he figured that he doesn’t need to even try in his videos in order to monetize them anymore…

[@mkgaming5823]

I think he just gave up tbh At the start of his channel the character he played attracted a certain type of audience One that at first was not aligned with Zacks actual views but I think over time hes just sunk into his own fanbase and they have gotten to him Its kind of hard too not be pulled in by certain views where your surrounded by them everyday I remember during one of the Allcrafts when a girl came on as a guest People in chat were making very shitty remarks.

[@star.lilies]

@@mkgaming5823 oh yeah, i think remember that allcraft stream as well. it sucks that hazelnuttygames and zepla got so many vile comments like that, and nowadays asmon doesn’t even seem to discourage his audience from being like super misogynistic anymore. i definitely agree with you about how he’s merged into the character that he plays during streams now.

[@notmethnx]

Cash rules everything around me ....

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

seeing political extremists ad their out of touch viewsis so crazy to me, the same way far right people call him a lefty. youre all so out of touch no matter what side youre on its unreal

[@Browikx]

@@kreenbopulusmichael7205 what do you even mean by this? you literally said nothing lol. they just called asmon an average ranter and your response is 'you are an extremist out of touch guy'? Go touch grass

[@macarojulian]

I don't really care about streamers watching shit live Uploading it on your official channel is predatory

[@macarojulian]

On twitch most streamer just watch the video cause chat ask them to react Putting it on youtube is just for the sake of monetization

[@fawnieee]

That's still traffic lost that could have gone into supporting the original video and content creator. People will seldom seek out that video or the content creator so the only one who benefits is the streamer.

[@AwesometownUSA]

@@fawnieeebut how many of those people have sought out the original video anyway?

[@Gordon.Pinkerton]

​@@AwesometownUSA it's not clear how many would have, but they definitely won't be seeking it out once they've already watched the entire thing on some dickhead's stream

[@leijten]

so why don't streamers react to stuff like the latest marvel movies live? Because that'd be struck down very fast, they have to know it's wrong. But since it's just some ytube stuff they know they can get away with it. It's still lazy and crappy even if it is just watching shit live

[@afterhourscinema782]

Not only is YT ridiculously monopolized but the censorship is out of control. Try writing a negative comment about Israel. Watch what happens.

[@sneedmando186]

Israel

[@sneedmando186]

I commented, let’s see what happens

[@kingofallpie]

@@sneedmando186 Palestine nice knowing you all

[@disposableincome]

My KZbin app crashed when i clicked this comment thread. Funniest shit given the context

[@sneedmando186]

@@kingofallpie 1 hr later, both our comments still here 🥳

[@russjen5012]

Asmongold is leading the charge with worthless copying of other people's content. This guy is making so much money off the labors of other content creators that it is just pathetic. He is right there with Sniperwolf when it comes to worthless content copying.

[@grandgibbon2071]

Asmond isn't even close to the worst one, he tends to actually have reactions, and add stuff.

[@Weeniehutnurse]

@@grandgibbon2071did we watch the same video?

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@Weeniehutnurse I can garentee you Asmond generally adds quite a bit.

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@Weeniehutnursealso asmonds video is an hour +

[@KnightFlier80]

@@grandgibbon2071 Yeah I agree that Asmongold isn't the worst reactor; He was able to add 30 minutes of commentary to BigBoss's video.

[@Coffeemancer]

1st hit: stream it and collect user donations 2nd hit: advertise on twitch 3rd hit: put on youtube to collect more donations 4th: collect more advertising on youtube 5th: clip-chimps direct more people to your channels i can't even count all the ways the dirtbag-media class grifts money

[@ShroudedWolf51]

I despise Asmongold. He is (and has always been) an outrage merchant. And, I hate how whatever he says, his audience of children blindly follows. Whether it's to abandon one game for another, spewing vile, or whatever else.

[@tylerblue9691]

You sound like the one spewing lol There’s normal people who like asmongold I’m one of them. I also watch this channel. Seems Incomprehensible to you I’d imagine lol Asmon is one good conversation away from being a socialist honestly. If he didn’t live in Texas with very conservative parents, he’d basically be Hasan.

[@genreartwithjb5095]

Right wing algorithm

[@skulliebythesea]

this

[@MyNameIsBucket]

they really are content whores. right wingers need to hear their smooth brained thoughts echoed back at them every minute of every day to drown out the cognitive dissonance.

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

delusional, youtube and most corporations love to push lefty causes, the algorithm puts things you disagree with infront of you, right wingers tend to get alot of lefties on their pages aswell...

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

Asmongold also went into crying about women and wokism. He fell so hard.

[@walpoleandworcester]

When Google bought out KZbin so many years ago, it was never the same again IMO.

[@king-gidorah2150]

in 2006?? lol

[@soundscape26]

What? What was so special about KZbin pre-Nov 2006? It was a very rudimentary video website. For better or worse, Google is responsible for what KZbin has become, the good and the bad. It's mostly good let's face it.

[@wonderfuljoey23]

They bought KZbin very early on, many of the good memories we have were Google owned KZbin.

[@IndellableHatesHandles]

They probably mean that KZbin was better before Google+, and I think that's a valid point in time to point at for when a lot of problems seemed to show up.

[@lol-ih1tl]

If Google didn't buy KZbin, then KZbin wouldn't exist today

[@brentbentKRFP]

You're wrong about Asmongold not caring about anything. He cares about slagging diversity as much as possible and is busy saying Sweet Baby has ruined so many games when it's clearly crappy capitalists not understanding or caring about their product.

[@evansnyamesah1755]

You got it right 💯🔥

[@AngelTail]

*nods nods...! 'have been thinking/feeling about how to counter this right-wing grifting by existing big KZbinrs... This trend is also present among Vtubers and Vtuber commentators? Getting on controversies that pander to silly culture wars, not caring about thinking more deeply on the real heart of those issues, not realizing that it's capitalism, greed, and profit and uncaring for workers that's the heart of the problem, and just generating controversy and drama, like rev says desu, Kirsche and others in the space...? Maybe one way to counter reactionary grift is to... maybe go with the flow? Moi's connected with Zecke_ch, a Vtuber who streams news on Twitch and then applies progressive/socialist/anarchist/critical thought in commentary, alongside his games and stuff, and then uploads edited commentary on KZbin? He comments on Asmongold, ShortFatOtaku, and other reactionaries... Moi can understand how Kavernacle-sensei and other progressive video essayists/creators feel like their efforts aren't reaching peeps... But perhaps one way out is to ride the same wave? Stream on Twitch, comment on reactionary stuff, then put out edited clips/highlights on YT? But still be clear and true and entertaining and memey when reacting to "culture wars" and issues, with critiques on capitalism and systems of oppression? Gotta find creative ways of engaging with peeps all over the world via KZbin and medias whilst also providing progressive commentary! All the best, comrades-nakamas-friends! Laban lang nang laban! (Struggle and fight!) 🍉🌈✊🏽

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

Sweet Baby execs are going on racist tirades at least once every week though. I find that highly concerning

[@Zectifin]

I hate when ever people say that Asmongold is actually a nice guy. No, hes not. Hes a dick if you don't agree with him or call him out and half his content is being a neckbeard. He may have some decent gamer takes on anything not related to diversity, but whenever it comes to something political hes garbage.

[@Vilendank]

@@lovelysakurapetalsythow about misinformed and incorrect polemics, do they do lots of those, too?

[@Charredasperity]

React channels wouldn't be so egregious if the people were adding real input and not just going "Wow" "yeah" "damn" "really?" Oh" "I can't believe that" and other generic ad libs

[@PGOuma]

YT is SO boring nowadays... It's either the same thing or videos from people that I don't even watch. There's no more fun videos... There's no more creative ideas... Idk if it's the algorithm or if YT is just dead now... Like you said, trash is starting to get pushed out more to the majority of watchers. I personally think that people are copying TikTok's grind where you upload the same thing as everyone else or reupload others' content (effortless content) and are applying it to KZbin now. That's why I left TT because it was all the same thing and the more creative ideas or "trends" never really took off. It got boring for me and now YT is becoming boring for me too... Idk where else to go to now...

[@Virjunior01]

Outside 😅 Seriously though. Unplug. This shit's gotten gross.

[@-404notfound-74]

if you figure it out let me know. I left and tried to hop onto Spotify to resume the many podcasts I have saved and it's so ass it's not even funny. Ngl I've considered either replaying shows/movies as background noise now instead :/

[@gorkaaustin5306]

dude, go and read books lol theyre infinitely more enjoyable than YT videos when you actually get invested, and you'll actually learn from them because you have to engage with the content instead of YT videos which is a more passive form of media

[@franjkav]

@@gorkaaustin5306if you’re not engaging with YT videos, it might just be a you problem

[@blueberryiswar]

@@franjkav how do you engage with a YT video?

[@quincey5917]

I keep getting anti-trans reactionary slop in my feed, and *I’m trans*. It’s genuinely disheartening to see ngl. What about my watch history says “I want to see tradcath conspiracy content about the trans ideology”?

[@mlchaellss8761]

Hii!Another trans person here with the same problem. I honestly love how all of these social media platforms have "rules and guidelines" when it comes to spreading bullying,hate,missinformation,etc when in reality they don't give a flying shit about any of us. I really hope you can filter out the hateful content on your page and let's hope for a better future for everyone❤️❤️

[@Dacula_Factory]

“It’s just spam” completely agree! Capitalists have outlived their usefulness so now they just shit out low quality content

[@avidrucker]

Enshittification, I've heard it called

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

​@@avidruckerthat was originally referring to just one specific kind of sht

[@Iotuseater]

This is why I stopped watching penguinz0 1 He really only uploads stream clips and drama videos 2 my recommended started to get… interesting

[@Weeniehutnurse]

Yeah I stopped watching some ordinary gamers because of my recommendations and seeing the comments on his videos

[@Iotuseater]

@@Weeniehutnurse I like him but god his comment section (and critikals) are INSUFFERABLE MR Beast level brainless praise and bot comments it’s awful omg. Also they all call them by their first names like the parasocial relationship goes crazyy Also I’ve never gotten any weird recommendations from some ordinary gamers like what kinds ?

[@johnjson]

​@@WeeniehutnurseI stopped watching him when he started randomly ranting about things like gun ownership and realizing he's decently conservative

[@greatfairyof]

@@johnjsoni stopped watching him after his take on idubbz's apology☹️

[@johnjson]

@@greatfairyof ik charlie had a terrible take on that, did Muta have one too? it's so strange that someone could be bothered by someone else feeling guilty about their own actions

[@tomfoolery5844]

It’s a requirement at this point to actively remove videos from your watch history to avoid skewing the algorithm. I also recently updated the mobile version of KZbin because the comments stopped working(what a coincidence), and it seems they’ve completely reset the channels I’ve set to DO NOT RECOMMEND. So now I’ve had to see a lot of channels I never wanted see again, just to set them to DO NOT RECOMMEND again.

[@j-1698]

I actively use incognito to watch KZbin except when I want a specific video to affect the algorithm. Even with all of that, it is still borderline unwatchable.

[@Loalrikowki]

Asmongold seems to put more effort into making expressions for thumbnails than actually responding to what he's watching or, for that matter, responding to his chat.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

I do find it quite sad in one way that because people are becoming so isolated that these almost "fake friends" that some are paying for with donations are becoming so common.

[@SwetlanasCozyplace]

I tried to make real life friends but people rarely care to listen. Mostly talk about themselves. Complain a lot and let their frustrations out on others. People are busy with work and don't value friendships much. It is difficult to find someone with the same interests who also has a good character and is available. At least on Twitch people can stay in their homes and share interests and being treated kindly by others.

[@godzillazfriction]

i mean Alex, once again that im replying to you... you're doing the same exact thing but in a much different manner, i don't understand how you want to set an established set of 'opinions' such as this one and hold it like it means everything in absolute truth...

[@georgekostaras]

It looks like youtube is financially rewarding the worst of the worst

[@georgekostaras]

@@ExpertContrarianit’s easy to blame the fans instead of the mega corporation that owns this platform and cultivates the worst people imaginable to keep views

[@peenurmobile]

it's also mind boggling that a reaction person could watch something that got demonetized but still make money themselves

[@RiteshKumarPanda]

That is sad and funny

[@ntokozosibanyoni1421]

Clown world. Capitalism is an absolute dumpster fire of a system

[@ddjsoyenby]

yeah i find myself preferring smaller creators cause they put in effort for their videos and create a community.

[@TheKavernacle]

really weird I was just thinking about this right now - how I enjoyed being a small youtuber because you create a pretty cool little community - definitely something you lose as you get bigger on the platform

[@manuelmialdea5127]

XqC's success is, I think, significant because it points to some kind of cognitive decline. What he says when he talks (once every two or three minutes if you're lucky) just makes no sense. It's gibberish.

[@kiz5562]

he's adhd. the only people who follow him are mostly highschool or college aged kids and others in the gaming community. i dont know how many grown folks could listen to him babbling.

[@shalltear159]

I feel like I'm losing my mind. Wasn't there a good 2 year span a while ago where everyone collectively shat on reaction channels? Like most everyone on this site was on the same page about them being bad. Now they're just back all of a sudden. No real rebranding or anything, just back.

[@Weeniehutnurse]

They never left

[@shalltear159]

@Weeniehutnurse I know they never left but like, now nobody seems to give a shit. It's the same exact bad content but now everyone likes watching it.

[@spoonsmcgee]

I'm hoping it'll cycle back around. They went into hiding and hopefully they'll be back in hiding soon enough once the new kids get tired of it

[@paradiz3lost]

Asmon is an egomaniac, never thinking about others, just need some sweet $$$$ and he will never share that even with the content creators he is stealing from.

[@ZrodyApo]

You don't get it Kavernacle, streaming is the hardest job in the whole universe, especially if you're a react streamer 😔 You're too harsh on these poor guys seriously /s

[@BenjaminWalburn]

That would be funny if someone actually held an opinion that even remotely resembles that.

[@macy1066]

Asmongold sounds like a person I would not want in the room while I watch a video. I have no idea why people watch him interrupt a video. I think his talking about his gaming history is just interrupting the video.

[@maffytaffy1231]

Asmongold actually has stuff to say and expands on it. He makes a 30 min video over an hour. I watch for HIM. Not the content. Same for his fans. They don’t give a fuck about what he’s reacting to

[@ndh06]

​@maffytaffy1231 cool that you like asmonds personality, then why does he need to run the whole youtube video. He has editors that can chop up the video and parcel it out for him to explain his reactions in an essay. Would you say what does is transformitive or leaching off the original product.

[@macy1066]

@@maffytaffy1231 "They don’t give a fuck about what he’s reacting to" so they don't watch his reaction videos?

[@vannah3729]

Not first, but pleased to be early. If you're reading this, I hope the shitty things in your life resolve themselves and that you get a really good night's sleep.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

you’ve got a good heart

[@zljmbo]

thanks, I needed this!

[@Aerosplinter]

Thank you. Shitty things do need to resolve themselves, because not everything or every second needs to be bad or dark.

[@girlville]

asmongold's content is like a cynical parody of the concept of entertainment

[@iminmisery437]

I had an argument about this the other day, as I was saying the reactor is taking away most of attraction the original video should have had and is effectively giving them trinkles worth of exposure in exchange. They responded with, and I shit you not, that the original creator should be grateful that they were given exposure in the first place as the reactor wasn't obliged to give them any. Guess whose comment got downvoted to oblivion.

[@beardoodle9835]

That's depressing....🙁

[@vau_st]

feels like "a liveable wage? Better be grateful you can work for me at all."

[@greatwhitesufi]

Depends on what the video being reacted to is

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

well , it really does depend on the situation

[@crazyturkturk1733]

i remember the era when everyone was denouncing jynx and other creators for straight react content with nothing to add, and now it’s the meta. the irony

[@LVC85costa]

Its theft, simple as

[@Garcian_Smith]

Very few people remember why the algorithm changed in the first place into the mess it is today. There was group of "women reactors" aptly named "The reply girls" many years ago that would mark their videos with popular tags and phrases KZbin search would pick up on. So the moment you typed up something you wanted to watch in KZbin, the main video you were looking for was always superseded by a girl in a low cut dress with lots of cleavage allegedly "replying" to whatever popular phrase or subject at the time was presented as the first search result. Tons upon tons of big creators complained for eons about it until KZbin stepped in to interrupt the reply girl's manipulative search engine optimization tactics. What we are presently experiencing now are more or less "Reply channels 2.0". The legacy of "The reply girls" did not die with them or their channels no they evolved and became the foundation of something even worse.

[@molly4561]

my entire feed is just videos i've already watched and it's been like that for over a year, it changes when i refresh but to other videos i've already seen...it's so frustrating i just turn off watch history

[@LenaFerrari]

Mine is just just videos I've added to watch later over 10 years ago, in my early teens. I don't understand why, but I hate it very much, since my taste has significantly improved haha

[@molly4561]

@@LenaFerrari this too omg I had to remove most of my watch later(which took hours) once I figured this out

[@Kalitayy]

I've been against react streamers like Asmon, Charlie and xQc since even before a GTAV speedrunner called DarkViperAU made a 14 page document about why they're like a plague. He's been very, very against react content and had this whole series where he talked about how bad react content is and how react streamers are slowly ruining KZbin. I agreed with almost everything he said about react content but people took some things from the document out of context and made him look like the "villain". I'm also annoyed with the fact that some leftist creators like Gabi Belle and some other smaller leftist dude whom I forgot the name lied about him and even defended the react streamers, as well as how basically the left treated him like an enemy simply because he's not a part of the Breadtube community. I was very disappointed but I'm glad that Kav finallt talks about this.

[@distinctlyaveragecyclist]

People who talk positively of left wing policies then are happy to create capital for themselves off the back of other creators labour are not left wingers. They’re grifting parasites taking advantage of their target audience. I wouldn’t be disappointed because there are many of us who feel the same as you do. And I often find that grifters get caught up in their own tangled web of hypocrisy eventually.

[@janedoe186]

to be fair to Charlie, he agrees with you and has stopped making react constant

[@SiIhou]

Im sure you didn’t agree to him comparing reactors to r*pists

[@speedyazi5029]

The slander of DarkViper AU pisses me off so much. That fact even Leftist KZbinrs slandered him is so fucking grating, he doesn’t need to be openly Leftist to see how unethical and lazy react content is. It’s even more disgusting that Hasan would scrutinise DarkViper. This self-proclaimed socialist clown is literally living the capitalist wet dream of sitting at home and watching other people’s crafted content and profiting of it under the guise of ‘exposing it to other people’.

[@greatwhitesufi]

Lmao the dark viper arc, ended up with playing geoguesser with Charlie

[@majorlazor5058]

KZbin is forcing actual creatives off the platform. I’m a fan of tabletop RPGs.. and I used to easily find a plethora different people who play RPGs. Now it’s the same 5 people who all play D&D and are sponsored by Hasbro.

[@djripsmusic]

I've seen a massive drop in the quality of my KZbin feed over the past 12 months. Ultimately, it just means I watch KZbin less, so I don't think this will end well for Google unless they change how they reward creators very soon.

[@EaselCat]

I agree YT and Google are useless. Ill watch the video now.

[@wmpx34]

😂

[@Coco-hq6ns]

My standards are still the same as always….. too high for the current state of KZbin.

[@MagicAndWires]

One thing you didn't talk about is how often react content actively works against the pacing of the original material. Like the moment Asmingold has to hit pause to tell something that's actually more than just voicing agreement in your example, it just immediately takes you out of the video. I rarely watch react content but when I do it's most often because I've seen the video in question and I know whoever is watching it will have something interesting to say about it and am genuinely interested in their take.

[@angelantayhua3096]

The problem is also than many of these react uploads are not made by the streamers themselves either. It’s third parties that literally do nothing. KZbin is just a cesspit of the lowest denominator that much of the blame can be put on KZbin themselves and people’s attention span and interest decreasing.

[@Tacom4ster]

Beavis and Butt-Head put more effort commenting

[@ComradeChyrk]

Ive been getting so sick of youtube lately. From the clickbait videos, creators that make a 20 min video for something that couldve easily been less then 3 min, the god awful "surprised face" thumbnails on every fucking video, etc its all become garbage.

[@rolandperlitz8508]

The worst are the crying/surprise face thumbnails on videos talking about military engagements in Ukraine

[@rollsreus3862]

i never really liked asmongolds content. i cant speak for his WOW stuff but whenever he comments on anything outside of gaming, he comes off as a pompous individual without the slightest inkling of critical thinking ability. the parasocial relations some of these streamers have with their fans gives them delusions of power and grandiosity. im thinking back to how arrogant asmongold sounded in his defense of trump when he "Debated" destiny. the guy literally doesnt watch or read any actual news. everything he knows comes from snippets off of twitter or nonsense that his crew of yesmen feed to him.

[@conrad4222]

I avoided KZbin until the pandemic. Now I got hooked. I'll leave one day.

[@brentbentKRFP]

Same, avoided YT and IG forever until Miss Rona showed up and now do both daily.

[@the_j_machine2254]

How did you avoid KZbin? Its the main video platform!

[@JEEBUSxHIMSELF]

youtube is and has always been about finding hidden gems. the more people that come on the platform the harder that becomes. that being said these dogshit tier youtubers like xqc often times are popular because they are popular. their main audience is children. these children share it with their friends in school and since everyones media diet is so customized no one has anything to talk about. so it boils down to "did you see this trend" or "did you see this on twitter" kids latch onto anything they can find in common with their peers so instead we get "did you see xqc do whatever" thus spreading xqc even further

[@beardoodle9835]

Watching a video of someone watching a video...... I'm actually stunned by how the lack of media literacy and people's acceptance of mediocrity have led us so far into this hellscape. 😟😭

[@LiquidTang]

There are even videos of people reacting to other peoples react videos

[@Joel-xp3rm]

Q and A do you ever get the feeling that the anti woke movement has reached the point, that for the majority in the movement it's NOT about politics. It seems the vast majority in anti woke movement only really care about is the way women in games, film and other media look, nothing more nothing less. Your thoughts?

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

That's politics

[@Joel-xp3rm]

@@thewhitefalcon8539 How!

[@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza]

It has been, and those people are just the tip of the iceberg.....

[@EriksBlue]

Asmon is the leech on the butt of KZbin

[@reformedchater]

Bro chill capitalism is perfect I'm sure this will get sorted out just fine like global warming, the Palestine conflict and all that

[@GabriellaBianca8]

Love coming across a video that affirms my experiences lol

[@the_babbleboom]

you can just block them. what pisses me off is when i give in to primitive urges and scroll through shorts for some cat videos and the hundreds of joe rogan and other deranged shit channels i have to block that pop up and it still wont stop shoveling more and more of this shit into my suggestions. it's like disliking and removing from suggestions every single one of these could tell youtube something about me not wanting that garbage on my screen.

[@brentbentKRFP]

Once the algorithm figured out I was gay I started getting a bunch of shirtless guys in my shorts. (Hahaha!) Basically, there's at least always one shirtless guy in the various initial offerings and sometimes shirtless guys outnumber the fully clothed ones and I have never clicked on any of this thirst trap bait.

[@angelr5694]

some of them you can even block anymore though. I still get fed iterations of the same video by the same person that I've blocked.

[@BenjaminWalburn]

Blocking someone only keeps you from seeing the content. It doesn't send views and money back to the actual creators. That's not a solution and it's concerning that you think it is.

[@cringeopedia]

Blocking barely does anything at this point.

[@johnjson]

you can't, because tons of reupload channels exist to force themselves into your algorithm

[@apersonouthere]

This feels like s problem we could solve with like 35 lines of code: “reaction“ channels upload their facecam vid as a separate video, and an extension or youtube feature could shrink that video to the corner PiP style and let you see the original video too. Both videos get views simultaneously and it counts for both creators in the algorithm. I hate this reaction bs but this seems like an easily ignorable problem save for the blatant monetary theft.

[@MikuHatsune159]

The fact that refreshing the YT page does NOTHING, the algorithm is done for by regurgitation of the same content. I also like to hear different opinions you know? Even if i dont agree with them 100%, i want to hear it.

[@anuraglakshminarayan4559]

You should shout out Darkviperau, who is basically leading the charge against anti-react

[@johnjson]

those videos are so good ❤️ we love Matto

[@kdjets]

Watching xQc stream and react to content is like watching an iPad kid react to content. It's like just occasional babbling and a lot of blank stares.

[@eyecontrol4900]

is it mostly just highschool kids that watch him? How can anyone take him seriously? he has 0 personality

[@TwoSouthFarm]

You have my condolence for watching an Asmongold video.

[@matthewpulama106]

Honestly, the algorithm nowadays sucks. While I do get some good videos, sometimes, garbage pops up and even when I press the do not recommend button, they always comeback a few months later. It's maddening.

[@-........]

BRO ITS THE GUY FROM MOVIE GUYS

[@RozayMalikOG]

Kav this will be a good watch

[@dreadcircumference]

i feel like every time people are complaining about algorithms (rightfully so) i have the exact opposite experience. ive been getting alot of low view videos with stellar production and its so refreshing and nostalgic to find these cool pockets on the internet. curating your online space goes a long way

[@MxchiefMaykr]

The problem for a lot of us is that even trying to cultivate your online viewing experience, KZbin will not actually let you consistently do so. You search up a topic, the results are all either unrelated, reaction content, or a stream of one creator's vaguely related content burying everyone else's videos on the topic. You tell KZbin you're not interested/do not show me this channel, give it a couple days and the same video will pop right back up! My subscriptions page never loads properly and I keep being unsubscribed from people I have followed for years. You watch one video on a topic and KZbin will spam you with nothing but that for weeks, and if you watch anything to do with certain games you immediately get slammed with fashie content bc it associates stuff like Warhammer lore and it's discussion of fascism with "wow this person must love fascism!!". I keep getting the same videos I've already watched recommended over and over, not getting videos from creators I follow until weeks later... It's a mess even when you try to curate it!

[@JamesThomasJeans]

I do not understand how people like Asmongold develop such big followings. He's not entertaining or charismatic and he just steals from other people.

[@quincey5917]

I don’t believe in dead internet theory, but my god is it tempting when I see how much attention these content mill videos get.

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

because youre being shown a small portion of the content he's made, you dont have the full picture. you formed an opinion without seeking out all the information, feel bad about it

[@Browikx]

true, when he reacts he doesn't add anything, when playing games he is like a baby, mid gameplay and literally describing what he is seeing. and the rants are just as uninformed and repetitive as any reactionary, nothing new even in that. for ex. compared to Joseph Anderson asmon content looks amateurish. most of the ppl watching him are just wow heads that have being there for a lot, and ppl that comes from twitch recommending high viewership channels in my opinion.

[@Browikx]

@@kreenbopulusmichael7205 so you just assumed how this person build their opinion to discredit it? sure, nice argument lol

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

@@Browikx I didnt assume, I know because his content was alot more varied during his actual rise to fame. claiming all he's done is steal from people is actively demonstrating a lack of knowledge, he only started stealing and being a scum after he got big.

[@mathiaswilhelm1902]

It’s just a never ending meat grinder of streamers stealing the content like parasites, they can get so much by watching a bunch of videos then upload them individually to KZbin and get even more views then tell you how hard their “job” is by stealing content

[@merty5713]

tech bros: 3 hours long Tarkovsky movie is boring, there is a lot of panning and wide shots, also tech bros: I will watch this twitch stream where a guy sits still on a chair for 3 hours.

[@BenjaminWalburn]

Commenter struggles to grasp the concept that multiple individuals exist that aren't himself.

[@fake.it.flowers]

the only thing i hate the most rn with yt is the ads! so many ads, even on short vids

[@AdrenolinFlux]

The original creator of the video should see a large portion if not the vast majority of the re-uploader/reactor's revenue from each clip. this would de-incentivize this lazy streamer scam

[@LilFeralGangrel]

The search function for youtube is useless and has been over a year now. I miss old youtube because i think this endless chase for "engagement" has made everything absolute garbage. I can't even search for what I'm interested in so i'm at the whims of an esoteric algorithm that will seek any kind of engagement which is usually frustration or rage. I will leave youtube in the near future and I will be better for it.

[@sungjin008]

DarkViperAU was right. Most reaction KZbinrs are full of greed.

[@gamingidiots7495]

Honest question at what point do you decide if it's adding or relevant to the topic or videos at hand vs not adding anything at all? Because I'm a huge fan of tangents and topics sparked by the ramblings of someone watching Somthing like that.

[@TheKavernacle]

I mean you shouldn't be using videos to pad streams in the vague hopes it sparks some story you can tell your chat. If Asmongold wants to use the video he should have watched it first and planned it properly to show people segments and then elaborate on. If he does that and then says the story about his dad then fair - if he's literally watching a video for ten minutes out of 30 and the only thing he has to say is about his dad buying a PC then that isn't relevant at all and clearly the vid doesn't need to be playing for him to say that to people.

[@dannooooooo]

reaction channels need to have some sort of shared revenue system, or algorithms need to recognize reaction videos and push the original video over the reaction video.

[@Ford-wt8rn]

This happens with history stuff too. I watch a lot of legit history stuff on YT then the algorithm slams me with shitty ancient alien/Atlantis bullshit...like why? Go away, lol

[@angelicinterment]

I had never heard of these streamers before this video, but nice to see you calling out these brain-dead narcissists.

[@jeremybarbata]

I wonder what would happen if creators started putting a constant layover message that says something like "if you haven't seen the original video before this reaction video, check it out at......"

[@TheAnticorporatist]

I think that they should just make it so that you can either have the content that you are reacting to in a 1/4 screen PiP and give that creator half of the monetization for any time that it is on screen, or vice versa for 3/4 of your monetization for that screen time; so if you just had yourself in a little Picture in Picture like he did there, the original creator would get 3/4 of all of your monetization.

[@GetOfflineGetGood]

Jfc the Asmon one is HAAAAARD to watch, i was feeling mildly defensive because im a Hasan watcher but at least Hasan will like... Make points

[@spoonsmcgee]

What annoys me the most is that suggested videos are now just a clusterfuck. I remember the days when suggested videos were those uploaded around the same time frame by the same creator, or at least the same topic by a different creator. Now no matter what I'm watching all that's suggested are totally unrelated hours and hours long videos from people I've never heard of talking about topics I've never shown interest in as far as the algorithm should be concerned, or really obnoxious clickbait thumbnails and dogshit drama content. The search bar doesn't even work anymore, like huh?

[@OberstFeldwebel43]

I get chatters (and some of my subscribers) asking for me to react to their content live (often clip compilations of the channel or a YT video they worked hard on they want me to see), and in an instance like that I think it is a bit different. But then again I am a small creator myself on Twitch with less than 500 followers and between 10-25 viewers, so the dynamic/mood and overall goals are quite far removed from giant creators

[@wmpx34]

“The only reason they’re watching it is because he’s sitting there?” Yes, in some cases. As sad as it is. It’s important not to underestimate the number of kids on KZbin pumping up these views numbers

[@razorednight]

I remember when a KZbin reaction video meant pointing a camera at your pal while he watched "2 girls 1 cup" for the first time. Those were the days eh!

[@strippinheat]

Can we talk about how every single one of the react stream thumbnails is the exact same? Are they all using the same lazy editor, or are they using different lazy editors that are just copying the other lazy editors?

[@BladeValant546]

Could watch the science channels........they are under watched. Antov, John Michael Godier,

[@user-oj7uc8tw9r]

I wish creators would be more vigilant in copyright striking this stuff

[@polyhymnea1426]

First time ever seeing any asmongold content in years and what I noticed directly was watching the original video with some friend who is telling you whatever comes to their mind tangentially related to the topic. And maybe that's something people want in a post-pandemic world with remote work on the rise et cetera. The Illusion of a friend who you watch some youtube stuff along together. People are so isolated that this might be only the symptom of a larger problem

[@CraftyArts]

you inspire me Kavernackle I feel like this is to the point of parody I should just do a stream reacting to all these reactions...maybe all at once

[@MetastaticMaladies]

I was so disappointed when I found out that Capcom partnered with Asmongold (who isn’t even a fan) on Dragons Dogma 2. It made me way less excited for the game, and I wasn’t even going to get it until I learned that you don’t have to see or interact with his likeness. I just can’t see how any company would want to work with him, I understand he has a large fanbase and stuff, but Jesus Christ that dude has some issues. All one needs to do to know that is to see his living conditions which is completely by choice, hear his horrible takes and lack of original “content” and interact with his weird fans.

[@FortPlz]

Good video. Wonder if the usual suspects will upload react videos for it. 🤔

[@melodywave3]

a direct syndication/reference system on youtube would be cool; but could also be easily taken advantage of

[@strippinheat]

I don't know what is worse: the unwashed streamers that sit there drooling while watching someone else's hard work and profit off it, or the smooth brains that watch these reactions while spamming dumbass emojis because they are apparently entertaine by this more than just watching the actual video. If there was any actual justice, Twitch and YT would identify this stuff immediately and seize all revenue on behalf of the original producer. This isn't fair use.

[@dancingappaloosa8926]

While I completely agree with you that these reaction videos are garbage, you've kind of inadvertently hit on the real super-villain here which is KZbin itself. As much as I have distaste for the likes of these reaction streamers, they are simply capitalising on the system that KZbin has set up - really, the essence of capitalism. We can get angry with the streamers, of course, but I kind of feel that that anger is misplaced. KZbin is really just the capitalist overlord exploiting all of us. We can get angry with these reaction streamers stealing others' content, but we're powerless to do anything about it, because as the owner of the means of production, only KZbin has the power to do anything. I really love your channel and appreciate your strong sense of morality and integrity, but I would love to see you calling out the true capitalists (the owners of KZbin, Twitter, etc) rather than focusing your ire on individuals.