Why Yugoslavia Had To Fall | Who Is To Blame?

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Dino K.

Dino K.

Күн бұрын

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@DinoK
@DinoK 3 жыл бұрын
All used sources are in the description. Please don't forget to subscribe since it took a long time to make this. I hope you guys like it! This will be the last war related video since it is a hard topic to write about. It caries a very heavy emotional load for me. This is the best I could do with the video series. I will be making more videos on small certain topics but nothing this big again.
@tvojamama7807
@tvojamama7807 3 жыл бұрын
Pozdrav Dino, možeš li mi poslati link videa sa 16:50,ovo narod treba vidjeti!
@micksaitlik2693
@micksaitlik2693 3 жыл бұрын
GJ Dino..these video's r interesting to watch,but they do hert,...al the best
@DinoK
@DinoK 3 жыл бұрын
@@redknight4805 1) Not true. "political scientist and cultural critic who writes on scholarly and popular subjects. He has taught at American and international universities and has been a guest lecturer before campus and community audiences." + the author of multiple books used by universities world wide. PHD from Yale university. 2) He calls him a sympathiser because of the quotes from his book, I have read (and still own) his book. He does not only talk about numbers or claims from the Serbians. He says exactly what Michael says. 3) He says one thing on tv one day says another the other day and writes a third thing in his book. Politicians change their mind like the wind changes direction. I take the information from the book since it is written and carries his name and his statement that can not be interpreted any other way they way he has written his book while on tv you can always remove things from the context. 4)True this part is not true since the first croatian coat of arms is from 1492. 5)I did not say it was the west. If you have watched my video untill the end, you would know my conclusion is that there are multiple factors and things happening at the same time. But I blame the one group who did not do anything which are the people of Yugoslavia. 6)This is why you can just decide not to watch the video and go about and live your life ;)
@mourarafster
@mourarafster 3 жыл бұрын
@@DinoK ​ @Red Knight Sir: You need to go to the Library and search and read a little bit more. Certifyed information on this and other subjects are available for everyone who looks for the true and not only propaganda. All of the facts mentioned on this video are true, are documented and veryfied. And it´s brilliant the way it could be done so impartial. Honestly, that amazes me!
@balkanpolitics9413
@balkanpolitics9413 3 жыл бұрын
Pa to je i vecina nasa greska mi smo bili glupi i slusali njihovo sranje. Ja ti Dino zivim u Americi, rodjen sam u Srbiji, imam ti drugara iz cele ex yugoslavia, i nisam upoznao ni jednu familiju ( iz Bosne Srbije Hrvatske Slovenije i Makedonije) da su reklu “vi” “oni” “njihovi” vecina nas ovde kazemo “nasi” ili “nas narod” svakome je krivo, sto se tako lepa i jaka drzava raspala.
@solidguy8853
@solidguy8853 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone would make a video like this. Thank you.
@Yugoslavz
@Yugoslavz 3 жыл бұрын
Just had to rewatch this, this video by far is well made and it brought people who I told to watch this to tears, thank you for breaking that promise to not make a video about our war.
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 3 жыл бұрын
I remember, I met this Croat girl online, and she is one of the most militant, most fanatic Croatian Nationalist I have ever came across. I've never met anyone who hates Yugoslavia, Tito, and Socialism more than her. Her loyalty to Tuđman and his comrades are undeniable. She hated Bosniaks. Saying that her family was massacred by them during the war and she was the survivor who fled abroad. She posted and still posts lots of far-right contents on 9gag and possibly other platforms too. Absolutely a person with a rotten mindset. Last time I had contact with her was in late april. Where she said that she might be pregnant. I never heard from her again since then. If she did, I feel sorry for her kid. Hoping that her kid wouldn't follow her horrid mindset and worldview. I don't know her name. She has this username in which I don't want to tell. She live somewhere in Vlissingen, Netherlands. Perhaps, assuming you still live in the Netherlands, you could probably strike a conversation with her if you're lucky.
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 3 жыл бұрын
@1 minute Tuđman, Milošević, Izetbegović and all their lackeys were the killers of Yugoslavia. Didn't you watch the video ? They should have rot in Goli Otok. Under Serbia because FRJ was Serb-centric. While SFRJ wasn't. Tito was a Croat for fuck's sake !
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 3 жыл бұрын
@1 minute That is the main problem. Tito didn't pick a good successor. Their successors were mostly Serbs. If you know that, then why the Croats hate Tito and SFR Yugoslavia the most ? It is clear that the Croats are still supporters of the Ustaše. Otherwise, why would they also hate Tito who was a fellow Croat ?
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 3 жыл бұрын
@1 minute Probably since the capital is located in SR Serbia
@centinogeldof1822
@centinogeldof1822 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh i lived in Arnemuiden 15 minutes from Vlissingen 😂
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 3 жыл бұрын
@@centinogeldof1822 Send my regards when you meet a slightly bucktoothed brunette Croatian girl who loves running.
@mrguiltyfool
@mrguiltyfool 3 жыл бұрын
Well throughout history, it us usually the dedicated minorities that force inactive silent majorities to pick sides whether it is communism or nazism. I think multi culturalism and multi ethnic states will always fail wen the economy gets tough. You can starting to see that in USA where different identity groups fighting each other for the limited resourcs. Btw i really like the book Canadian civil war by neetcorediary it is giving me the yugoslav civil war
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
Yup people voice
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
And your friends treated me as a sheety migrant
@dandankokorohikareteku2620
@dandankokorohikareteku2620 2 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@edinkulasic5961
@edinkulasic5961 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Yugoslavia stayed together today it would be good for all of the countries in that region right now but since it broke up they have to do solo on their own for each country I ❤️🇧🇦❤️🇷🇸❤🇭🇷❤️🇲🇪❤️🇸🇮❤️🇧🇬❤🇲🇰 The countries in Yugoslavia will still love each other because we’re all brothers at the same time as of today since Yugoslavia broke up they still do love each other as brother countries 🔥🔥🔥
@chronic4632
@chronic4632 3 жыл бұрын
Bulgaria wasnt yugoslavia
@giuseppe1193
@giuseppe1193 3 жыл бұрын
@@chronic4632 but is sothslavic yugo means south so could join and is a yugoslav brother
@Wolverine-ky9gk
@Wolverine-ky9gk 3 жыл бұрын
you are missing 🇲🇰
@politicstalks4630
@politicstalks4630 3 жыл бұрын
I am Serbian, and one of my best friends is a Bosniak. There is no hatred. One thing I like to say is quality over quality. If people just want to be faciasts and ruin their own country, they can feel free to leave. It is not the amount of people that matter, it is who the people are. This country will one day return, more united, more powerful, and more peaceful than ever.
@edinkulasic5961
@edinkulasic5961 3 жыл бұрын
Shit I missed some but yeah
@Yugoslavz
@Yugoslavz 3 жыл бұрын
It's okay, someone will "take" my place....... eventually some people said.
@mariopranjic4306
@mariopranjic4306 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh master tito we are nothing without you we love you volim te puno😘😘.. rip tito
@lenini056
@lenini056 3 жыл бұрын
But you didn't leave a successor behind which was your big mistake Tito no disrespect to you comrade!
@bosnianphantom480
@bosnianphantom480 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but no Yugoslavia, BiH stays indepentend but with leaders just like JBT(Josip Broz Tito) or even better
@ayran6372
@ayran6372 3 жыл бұрын
Very similar to the collapse of the USSR. Our grandmothers and grandfathers talk about how good it was at that time, now not work, not our own production, for that democracy and capitalism. Capitalism is cool, the government lives perfectly, and the rest cannot buy bread for themselves
@bobob8820
@bobob8820 3 жыл бұрын
It hurts me to see what peapol did to my cuntry and the intro hit me hard
@thatrandomdude7008
@thatrandomdude7008 3 жыл бұрын
My dad always talks about how good Yugoslavia was before the war, it's a shame that it was polluted by hatred
@JohnDoe-mp1yn
@JohnDoe-mp1yn 3 жыл бұрын
@MyTheory Bitch we are slavs, to anyone who says otherwise, lies and slander...
@draki9722
@draki9722 3 жыл бұрын
tito was never good.
@JohnDoe-mp1yn
@JohnDoe-mp1yn 3 жыл бұрын
@@draki9722 good joke, off to goli otok
@Comrade_Steel
@Comrade_Steel 3 жыл бұрын
@MyTheory Bitch Serbs not Muslims slovenes, croats and bosnia wanted to leave first then Serbia was a bitch and didnt want that so it attacked Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia And With the WHOLE YUGOSLAVIAN ARMY Didnt win :) Now thats a lesson
@Comrade_Steel
@Comrade_Steel 3 жыл бұрын
@@draki9722 Welcome to Goli otok Populacija: samo ti
@mariopranjic4306
@mariopranjic4306 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone blames the Serbs when in reality I believe the Croatian Catholics were also to be blamed at fault ... hvala vam
@micksaitlik2693
@micksaitlik2693 3 жыл бұрын
Cant argue but a budalla comment still....
@mrzimluk2270
@mrzimluk2270 3 жыл бұрын
Every nation in Yugoslavia was to be blamed. If we continue blaming one nation and don't reflect on our own mistakes, there will never be peace.
@mariopranjic4306
@mariopranjic4306 3 жыл бұрын
@@micksaitlik2693 agreed I'm Croatian/Bosnian but I respect serbs
@filipkaradzic4794
@filipkaradzic4794 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariopranjic4306 Mario do you know how rare are ppl like you and how rarely ppl will say things like that, imagine our politicians meet each other make like historical meeting and agree on that and finish what was in the past and live it to the historians to agree on details countries and nations to move forward
@AA-ds9wq
@AA-ds9wq 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariopranjic4306 politicians made profit and still do while normal people live on edge of existence work like slaves just to pay the bills . i respect all good people from ex-yu no matter of religion or ethnicity muslim ,chatolic or ortodox no matter if they are bosniaks, croats, macedonians or serbs but there is still lot of narrow minded people and they are real problem . it is clear to smart ones that we share same roots but it is much easier to be stupid and destroy than to learn and build something good.
@seamussc
@seamussc 3 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this, great work! Most Americans know nothing about Yugoslavia at all in 2020. The funny thing is, of the ones that do, most think very positively of Yugoslavia, the anecdote about Tito's response to Stalin's assassination attempts being a favorite one to share. Americans are subject to the same sorts of media manipulation as well, sadly, seen most recently in the past year with Bolivia. The problem, of course, is they soon forget even when it's shown to be a sham.
@emilianosintarias7337
@emilianosintarias7337 2 жыл бұрын
I think Yugoslavia can come back. It sounds impossible, which means, it might just happen
@halon7476
@halon7476 3 жыл бұрын
Germany played a big part in the break up of Yugoslavia. They were quick on recognizing Slovenia and Croatia as an independent state.
@harakhte213
@harakhte213 3 жыл бұрын
russia had too..
@danielmedjedovic7068
@danielmedjedovic7068 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine this: *At the Un meeting in new york* USA: Yugoslavia? I thought you guys broke up. Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro and Slovenia: Yes thats what we wanted you to think!!! *suddenly becomes Yugoslavia* Russia: *does the same becoming the soviet union' USA: W-what...*falls down defeated* Canada: I take north of USA Mexico: I take the south ones
@nikorovis1727
@nikorovis1727 3 жыл бұрын
🤦🏻‍♂️
@stanimirovicd8207
@stanimirovicd8207 3 жыл бұрын
Macedonia?
@tysm.
@tysm. 3 жыл бұрын
🤦🏼‍♂️
@nikorovis1727
@nikorovis1727 3 жыл бұрын
@@tysm. i think this is in my top list of most cancerous coments I ever saw
@tysm.
@tysm. 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikorovis1727 wdum bruh?
@saeidehrad5070
@saeidehrad5070 3 жыл бұрын
Such an informative video with many questions I had in mind for a long time I hope they don't take this video down
@nicka.9842
@nicka.9842 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t just a Bosnian Genocide, but it was also a Yugoslav genocide, regardless of ethnicity or religion. The Fall of Yugoslavia was the worst geo political disaster of the modern era.
@medin5310
@medin5310 2 жыл бұрын
True fuck usa
@BB-kt5eb
@BB-kt5eb 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t doubt that the US and other NATO member nations played a big role in the death of Yugoslavia, but this specific narrative ignores key facts about exactly how Yugoslavia itself was structured in such a way that Croats and Slovenes were given a great deal while Serbs, Montenegrins, Albanians, and all others did not receive the same kind of representation in government and were not given the same liberties and rights either. Yugoslavia had fatal flaws built in to its own system well before any other countries ever interfered. These flaws allowed for men like Slobodan Milosevic to rise up and stoke the angers and frustrations of the lesser ethnic groups of Yugoslavia.
@englishman9020
@englishman9020 2 жыл бұрын
Turning brother against brother
@Kreshnik75
@Kreshnik75 3 жыл бұрын
You know when I was younger it was just from my parents that it was ethic conflict and Milosevic and I’m not saying he doesn’t have blame but Tujdman and Alija too have much blame. I didn’t learn about this till last year and it’s crazy that the US and west would actively destroy our country for what for profit, the fact they can’t stand a successful socialist country where people were content. It boggles my mind and it’s disgusting to see this is what really happened. Thank you for sharing this.
@Kreshnik75
@Kreshnik75 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrthoMan_100 I agree with you Tito and Kardelj with their model was way ahead of its time. I would definitely prefer Tito then the mess that is going on now in the Balkans. It’s a shame that it collapsed and I do give much more credit then I made to seem. It definitely is a viable alternative.
@neo_varna
@neo_varna 3 жыл бұрын
really awesome video , they should show this on all ex-yugoslav nationalists TV channels
@slobodankostadinovic6194
@slobodankostadinovic6194 3 жыл бұрын
its time for a new yugoslavia❤️
@BIGNEM
@BIGNEM 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo Dino!! Svaka ti čast! ❤️❤️🥺 More intellectual minds like you are needed on KZbin. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@Miningfox
@Miningfox 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say soviet socialism didn't work but this is a really important and moving video. Especially the parts about western companies wanting to dominate Yugoslavia is really creepy and bad.
@wexfordification
@wexfordification 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm Irish I've been subscribed to you since the start and you've finally found your genre of content keep it up 😁
@afive8714
@afive8714 3 жыл бұрын
Yugo is the beatiful country
@Baklava_Sarma
@Baklava_Sarma 2 жыл бұрын
Im just 15 and every time I see old jugoslavian photos or vidios i just wanna go back then where no one blaming eachother and thx to American we can't have it back. 🇧🇦🇭🇷🇲🇪🇲🇰🇷🇸🇸🇮❤
@Baklava_Sarma
@Baklava_Sarma 2 жыл бұрын
But no one can unite us like tito❤
@DanielB-s7b
@DanielB-s7b 9 күн бұрын
What are you talking about? In 2003 Yugoslavia just changed its name to Serbia-Montenegro. The process of transitioning was peaceful
@seustaceRotterdam
@seustaceRotterdam 3 жыл бұрын
Dragi Dino, prijatelju! Svaka čast. You made me cry, so true!
@lanesce-is9mr
@lanesce-is9mr 3 жыл бұрын
20:03: it is nice to see that Serbs and Bosniaks like each other. I am Serbian and I feel sorry for the Bosniaks who must live in a federation with Croats in Bosnia. They deserved better. Bosniaks are lovely people.
@luxbropro4674
@luxbropro4674 3 жыл бұрын
Croats arent bad people like you think.They arent animals.
@miiha3334
@miiha3334 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the effort Dino! I just can't describe how it hurts everytime to see the breakup of Yugoslavia. A country with such a potential, only if the people chose the right path against any war and religious and nacionalist influence. It's such an interesting topic for someone who has his roots from the Ex-YU countries but never had anything to do with the breakup of Yugoslavia. I hope that our generation overcomes the hatred and learns from it's heritage. Živela Jugoslavija
@hsab4646
@hsab4646 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what's wrong with religion, it's part of culture and nationalism is important to an extent to establish a culture, language and belonging. Slovenia left because it wasn't even the same culture or the same language. U can't say religion is bad..schools, chemistry, algebra nonprofits, hospitals were created and invented by these religions and its followers. I see a lot of these ex yugos and a lot r islamophobic, racist, anti christian and when u ask them they don't even know why. Nobody is saying fundamentalism and fascism r right, but culture is needed to establish an identity. Also, Newton, Einstein and many other scientists have said God and religion played a vital role in science...the more they discovered in science the more they believed in a creator. Yugoslavia tried to shut down religion saying it was dumb and yet maybe it would have helped in some areas that the culture struggles in. There is value in everything and that's how we should think, not through a facist and uneducated lense that everything is bad.
@medin5310
@medin5310 2 жыл бұрын
🇭🇷💔🇧🇦💔🇷🇸💔🇲🇪💔🇲🇰💔🇸🇮 we are the same people with different religion we have to love each others, and trust ourself and not America💩 we are stronger than them🫡 zivjo nasu jugoslavije 💔
@REDARROW_A_Personal
@REDARROW_A_Personal Жыл бұрын
TBH it didn't have to break up. The EU offered Yugoslavia to join straightway in exchange for helping to cool National Tensions. Yes Yugoslavia would have had to adapt to a capitalist market, but there would have been no bloodshed. I think it the future we will see a new Eastern European Union that will be way better than Yugoslavia. It will be a United Collection of the Baltics and Balkans.
@markos.8211
@markos.8211 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a son of the jugoslav diaspora , my father was a serbian living in croatia , I was born outside my parents homeland, I assimilated in the culture of the nation I live in , but when I return every summer and see on tv the croat propaganda celebrating their nation, the expulsion of serbs it disgust me to the point where I refuse to belive this is real, that my people are capable of this cruelty... sometimes I just want to rehect my origins because it hurts to see my parents home, the country I should call home, a mess made of lies and hatred
@Joker-no1uh
@Joker-no1uh 9 ай бұрын
I mean Yugoslavia borrowed an enormous amount of money that it never planned on paying back. So without all that money it wouldn't have been successful. Eventually the loaners are going to get their money back one way or another.
@anya-bn2my
@anya-bn2my 7 ай бұрын
can someone please tell me where the original video from 9:24 is ? I remember watching the whole essay a few years ago, but i just cant find it anymore. Thank you!
@zivoveselo2293
@zivoveselo2293 3 жыл бұрын
God is crying
@nevamele2152
@nevamele2152 2 жыл бұрын
Life in Yugoslavia was very good. it was like paradise. I miss you Yugoslavia ♥️
@TheJerico246
@TheJerico246 3 жыл бұрын
Bosnian here I seriously appreciate ate this we need to bring this back.
@vladimirgrujicic9656
@vladimirgrujicic9656 3 жыл бұрын
There is a paradox why Bosnians have so many feelings for ex-YU. Bosnians were creating even before the war there, new flags and new names for the nations, new territories, and ex-YU was still intact at that moment... That was in result to rush into independence from Yugoslavia very early even before some other countries(March 1992). Which slip BiH into the war because there are 3 nations...if those specialists didn't know that fact there. Another question is which army was stronger or not in war after. So pathetic are those stories about feelings for ex-YU. So I as a Serbian who had a Yugoslavian passport and country with the same name until 2006 has to listen to that... So that Idea was much longer in Serbia and Montenegro then Bosnian fiction and fake feelings for something. Instead of creating a private business country in 1992 without control for individuals what is even now. It's clear why we break up. Great job and enjoy now!
@dennybaker9927
@dennybaker9927 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your assessment of Yugoslavia although one has to take in account the history of the region going back several centuries. I am impressed by your knowledge and passion. I am an American. My birth mother was born in Zagreb in 1914. I did not know who and what about her until the 1980s so I am still trying to understand what happened. Please continue educating me/us about your culture. hvala
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
God is crying
@micksaitlik2693
@micksaitlik2693 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video.dino.. Shame wat happened to us .maybe 1 day a balkan union.. Yebice politica.
@g.g4816
@g.g4816 3 жыл бұрын
Jebiga
@tamaraac
@tamaraac Жыл бұрын
Знала сам све о овоме али када сам погледала овај видео ,праве снимке, плакала сам као киша😢
@Bebebeuie
@Bebebeuie 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there’s a good video by KZbinr Keith woods on Yugoslavia you should really check out
@nightvvisher7713
@nightvvisher7713 3 жыл бұрын
there can be peace, when one ethnicity totaly removes others, its simple as that
@richiecabral3602
@richiecabral3602 3 жыл бұрын
First off, keep making content like this if you want to. I only became a subscriber of yours because I am an American that knew next to nothing about Yugoslavia, but in the last couple years I became aware, and have become fascinated with the story of Yugoslavia, and also fascinated with Tito as what I consider to be a truly unique leader in human history, and came across your channel in just trying to find more things about it. So, don't be afraid to be a voice. There's not always a lot of them out there. You might be surprised at who wants to hear what you have to say. I'm not necessarily into all the stuff you do on your channel, and I don't always agree with you, but I appreciate the perspective. I also hope that you don't take the remainder of my comment as an insult or an attack on you because I'm angry at you, or offended by your work, but rather as just another alternative perspective. I only watched the first five minutes of this video so far (I apologize, but at the moment I'm fatigued from the bullshit going on in my own country, and just wasn't in the mood, but I will eventually see the whole thing, and I realize having not seen the whole thing yet, I might be wrong about assumptions I've made and what I'm about to say), but I've obviously heard you comment on the subject before in your other videos, and it sure seemed like you were setting up to at least partially blame the fall of Yugoslavia on America. Now, I do not claim to be any kind of authority on the history of Yugoslavia, but I do have my own opinions about what I've learned so far. My impression is that Tito was Yugoslavia, and that Yugoslavia was Tito. It was Tito's dream and purpose to create a free and independent communist state in the Balkans which required uniting people where there had been hundreds of years of ethnic, religious, national, and political conflict. I think that Yugoslavia, as beautiful as it may have been for a time, only ever "worked" as well as Tito was able to make it work, and I think you may even agree with that. I agree with you that the people of Yugoslavia had a good quality of life, but I'm not sure that the economy ever truly functioned that well. I think it only ever appeared to function as well as it did because behind the scenes Tito worked very hard to keep a whole lot of plates spinning, and if he was able to provide for his people, it didn't matter if it was only hanging on by a thread. (None of that is to imply that the economy in my country is so great, but maybe that we have the resources to drag it out a little longer without caring as much about the people) I also don't think that all the history of conflict in the Balkans dissipated into thin air because Tito had some kind of magic power. I think he knew that the only way his dream worked was if Yugoslavia was truly united, so anytime any of this old bullshit flared up, it was quickly distinguished under his boot because there was no way that as long as he stood watch he would allow anything that represented a threat to the unity and security of his Yugoslavia. That's why I think that when Tito died, his Yugoslavia died with him. When he was no longer able to stand his watch, all of the plates just fell. Yugoslavia was then just what was left. That may have been his own fault. To create a system that depended on him being the linchpin, as opposed to building an infrastructure that could've out lived him. Maybe it wasn't his fault? Maybe such an infrastructure doesn't exist? Maybe it does, but the people needed to make such an infrastructure work don't exist? Maybe Yugoslavia needed him because nobody else believed enough in the dream to do what he had done? Maybe he was the only man that could do what he did? I don't know. I know that my country is certainly not pure and innocent, so I'm not mad at you if you want to point fingers at the great American devil, but the United States of America did not create the conflict that existed in the Balkans for a thousand years before it's existence, except for the 35 years of Tito's reign. We didn't create Albanians and put them in Kosovo. We didn't create Milosevic and bring him to power on a wave of Serbian nationalism that made the rest of Yugoslavia very nervous once they remembered that before Tito, they all hated each other, and did really horrible shit to each other. We didn't make them paranoid and fearful that the other guy might want some payback now that Tito wasn't there to stop them. That domino dropped on it's own. I will give you this. The U.S. and the rest of Europe, surprise surprise, did in general, conduct themselves in their own interest. I'll give you that the rest of the world ignored and abandoned you until after they saw the nightmare of Sarajevo. Then they felt guilty, realized how bad they screwed up, and then tried to make up for it really quickly inorder to try and redeem themselves. They tried to stop it as quickly as possible without worrying how to do it correctly. It left the Balkans with out a proper resolution, and probably set them up for a bad future as a result. I do get that, but the demise of Yugoslavia wasn't a long plotted nefarious plan of the West to further, or justify the Cold War. It wasn't a conspiracy created from the outside, and from people outside it's borders. Uuggghhhh! As an American after the past four years, I can tell you how exhausting all this conspiracy bullshit is. The fault lines existed before Tito. Yugoslavia collapsed on itself in horrific fashion. Yugoslavs were killing each other to a rate of genocide. Not because America or anyone else made them hate each other. This was an onslaught on the existence of Yugoslavia as an idea at all. If I'm wrong, and you're right, where are all the stories of the heroes who fought to carry on Tito's dream?
@filipkaradzic4794
@filipkaradzic4794 3 жыл бұрын
Yes America didnt create or make all of the things you said but America sparked it, in Bosnia Milošević offered to muslims a deal not to be a war cos serbs and muslims make 85% of total population to agree on future look of the country and America was precuading Alija Izetbegovic not to sign the deal and that war would be better solution for muslims, we see now how great that turned out for all but americans got a foothold there then albanian liberation army was on the list as terrorist organisation but when they saw that they could help america against serbia and that on the end they can have a huge military base something like biggest outside US abd serves as a pin or nail on Russian gas pipeline and wanting to oust russians from Caspian basen and Black Sea, now some 15 miles from their base theres 1 ir 2 recruit camps for albanians bosnians nd other european muslims to go join Isis in Syria...
@mourarafster
@mourarafster 3 жыл бұрын
I´ve been studying the Yugoslavian War for quite a while, and this THE more balanced and best work I´ve ever seen so far, even from the most respectable analyzers and reporters of the world. My sincere congratulations and my highest appreciation for such an impressive, impartial, hard and well done work. I wish I had the courage and the cold blood to do it. Absolutelly Brilliant! Hvala!
@BrYAn-uu6nm
@BrYAn-uu6nm 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Could I help making french and spanish subtitles for this video? I absolutely love it!
@DinoK
@DinoK 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome. Hit me up on IG :D
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
In forests again...bella chiao
@brothergreen1
@brothergreen1 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic film
@VadKL
@VadKL 2 жыл бұрын
Хорошую страну разорвали изнутри на кусочки, грустно.
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
My sweetheart u know..u feel
@andrijamilovanovic2941
@andrijamilovanovic2941 3 жыл бұрын
Super video :D pozz iz Srbije
@yanislee1085
@yanislee1085 2 жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia's ideas is enough to convince me that it can determine its own path for its future. I hope this critical thinking can reach out to the mainstream audience for decades to come.
@kemaloz5447
@kemaloz5447 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative video. I never realized the truth depths of America's (my country) involvement early on in facilitating the breakup of Yugoslavia. The mysterious meeting between Ambassador Zimmerman and Izetbegovic on the eve of Bosnia's declaration of independence is where I thought our meddling started. Also I was aware of Austria, Germany, Italy and many Catholic nations supporting Croatia and Slovenia with weapons. One has to question motives when no one in Western elitist political circles stated that the territorial integrity of Yugoslavia must be preserved, but the unity of countries like France, Indonesia, Spain, Turkey and Iraq must remain intact at all costs.
@bezpis5952
@bezpis5952 3 жыл бұрын
first
@bezpis5952
@bezpis5952 3 жыл бұрын
first
@bosnianphantom480
@bosnianphantom480 3 жыл бұрын
@Dino Bosnia and Herzegovina will remain independent and capitalist country, however I hope that one day Bosnia and Herzegovina becomes even better place to live than it is now and I hope that we will have better leaders
@kvyatalpinista8942
@kvyatalpinista8942 3 жыл бұрын
yugoslavia started as a Monarchy not as a communist country
@ira233
@ira233 2 жыл бұрын
I think as a Serbian I can agree with almost anything but not being in the same country we tried that and suffered and never again.
@alexandernordahl5896
@alexandernordahl5896 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the melody at the beginning? It’s so relaxing
@teachann5762
@teachann5762 3 жыл бұрын
❤️ Thanks Dino ❤️ all your docu videos are eye opening but this one in particular caught me teary eyed in the end. Truth indeed is heart breaking. ❤️ Love from Dubai ❤️
@johnnokov2852
@johnnokov2852 3 жыл бұрын
Well done
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
😭
@halotaggey7267
@halotaggey7267 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos is superb!, Your explanations about the Yugoslavia fall in my opinions correct and balanced without any agendas like other major news outlet. When I first doing online research on balkan conflict, my questions is why Yugoslavia fall? Yugoslavia at the time is a founder of Non-Block Movement along side with my first president Soekarno who stand-up against neocolonialism and imperialism. Based on this movements clearly that Yugoslavia have a neutral positions on cold-war(US vs USSR), watch your videos it proves my opinions right, Yugoslavia have their own system, they adapt and mixed communist and capitalism. But, still why they fell when we have the same multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, multi-religion and Indonesia's not? Clearly you mentions those Bad politicians who we're not clearly understands what Mr.Tito visions and ruin it all. I hope young generations on former Yugoslavia nations understand deeper what Yugoslavia means. I'm sure if Yugoslavia still exist it will challenge US head to head like China do now. What I'm learned from Bosnian war, Croatian war, and kosovo war is: The pattern from US and NATO to intervene other nations still same until now( how they're made iraq war, libya war, syirian war, etc) and balkan war is like a pilot project and it proven.
@karenhogan-eb3jg
@karenhogan-eb3jg 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this it's so educational for people who were young at the time
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching this with me...my old soul
@joekerr9197
@joekerr9197 3 жыл бұрын
Tudjman may have been an apologist to pro-fascist elements in Croatia (since he wanted this "all-Croatian reconciliation" which would bring together the descendants of those who were on opposite sides in WW2) but calling him blatnatly "a pro-fascist/nazi" is just a hilarious and ludicrous statement. Tudjman was in fact the only active politician in a prominent position during 1990s who actually participated in WW2 as a Partisan and anti-fascist...all others were just either bureaucrats or participated on the other side like Izetbegovic. Tudjman even openly described himself as a marxist pre-1990s election. Not to mention that he was the youngest person ever to hold the rank of a general in the Yugoslav army during Tito's presidency. And before I go on next topic I should say I am not a fan of Tudjman, but not because of his past prior to 1990s (which I find even somewhat exemplary as he was participant in the anti-fascist struggle) but rather of what he was doing post 1990...namely after 1994-1995 specifically post-war Croatia when he allowed criminals to dismantle Croatian industry and economy for their own benefit under the guise of so-called "patriotism". As for the second issue I have here is the claim about Croatian coat of arms and symbols...this shit is old as your grandmothers uncle...the checkered coat of arms of Croatia has been in continuous use since 1527 in official manner and exists from as far as 1495 when it first appeared. It was also used in both first Yugoslavia (monarchy) and also during the socialist Yugoslavia (as a symbol of SR Croatia). The fact pro-fascist quislings used it as well doesn't mean shit...the Hungarian quislings used historical national symbols of Hungary as well...you don't hear anyone saying it should be abolished, same with all other pro-nazi countries in WW2....Denmark, Netherlands, Slovakia, Czechia, Norway, etc, etc....all quisling nazi puppet states that used the same symbols used before them and after them. Even the Germans used the same symbols used till today...f.e. the so-called "german cross"...a symbol also having origins in medieval times and still used to this day by German army as it was used by all German armies since the establishment of the unified German state in 1870s. I mean I agree with most of the stuff but on these two points you (and the people in the videos you featured) are grossly wrong and/or uninformed...
@galaxy0339
@galaxy0339 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you heard of "Bespuća povijesne zbiljnosti"? People change their opinions over time. Tudjman heavily relativized the crimes committed by the Ustashas and therefore Dino is not completely wrong.
@joekerr9197
@joekerr9197 3 жыл бұрын
@@galaxy0339 He never relativized anything and no he didn't change his opinion. He was still a hardcore marxist deep down until the end...his policies confirm it undeniably. As for his book, many statements there were taken out of context and manipulated...a typical method when you try to discredit someone. Again, he wasn't an angel and far from it, but he certainly wasn't "a fascist" or "pro-fascist"....in fact I find it offensive to accuse someone who actually participated in fighting the nazis, fascists and the domestic quislings putting his life on the line of such...and the funniest thing is such accusations usually came from ppl who actually were pro-fascists or descendants of quislings.
@veselinboyadzhiev4724
@veselinboyadzhiev4724 3 жыл бұрын
The bad thing is that you imply that the only answer to nationalism and religious fundamentalism is socialism and it is definitely not.
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. The answer to all of that is still Socialism. Full stop. It is the only front completely independent from the Necolim. Don't be such a pro-Imperialist Capitalist Realist.
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
U dont want to know..what l think about them
@dt5390
@dt5390 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@dandankokorohikareteku2620
@dandankokorohikareteku2620 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
Will take tape off
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
U know now
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
Hi hunn
@yhunna4475
@yhunna4475 3 жыл бұрын
Agrokomec bajo
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 3 жыл бұрын
Song name at the beginning?
@alexandernordahl5896
@alexandernordahl5896 2 жыл бұрын
I want it too! It’s so relaxing! I wish I knew the melody at the beginning
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandernordahl5896 Found it. It's named 'Amend' by artist 'j^p^n'
@alexandernordahl5896
@alexandernordahl5896 2 жыл бұрын
@@TSGC16 thanx
@really3062
@really3062 2 жыл бұрын
Nato. And people support it. Sad world.
@AA-ds9wq
@AA-ds9wq 3 жыл бұрын
here is how war started there is Burek with chees 3,2,1 ... war in reply comment section. Bosnian triggered Tesla is Croat 3,2,1...Serbs are starting WW3
@DH-fu7bx
@DH-fu7bx 3 жыл бұрын
Tito should have known without him Yugoslavia would fall apart.
@emk254
@emk254 3 жыл бұрын
George Sorros again
@melihaduzdagic7811
@melihaduzdagic7811 3 жыл бұрын
We are oldest civilisation in Europe
@donaldduck280
@donaldduck280 3 жыл бұрын
Quit drugs and you stop saying these nonsense things
@nevamele2152
@nevamele2152 2 жыл бұрын
It is true! Slavic peoples from balcan are the oldest 😉
@stevedurmisovski8711
@stevedurmisovski8711 Жыл бұрын
what a joke the greeks and macedonians can say that my boy not bosnia a fake state smacked togeather by tito
@バーバラ-e2e
@バーバラ-e2e 3 жыл бұрын
Jesi li znao da su Ameri davali 1992 godine, iliti "poklanjali" kancerogeno brasno iz 1942
@nevamele2152
@nevamele2152 2 жыл бұрын
Boze ... secam se tog UN brasna 🙈
@Comrade_Steel
@Comrade_Steel 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up Its was the Serbs
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