Austria’s Election Explained: Another Far Right Victory in Europe

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@Darthsmith10
@Darthsmith10 Ай бұрын
Just make sure all Arts Universities and Schools have right funding and can contain as many students as possible
@BD-nt3ee
@BD-nt3ee Ай бұрын
I shouldn't find that comment so funny... But I do. A bit true as well (that part is less funny...)
@CombatFXZone
@CombatFXZone Ай бұрын
golden comment
@NotMe-f5l
@NotMe-f5l Ай бұрын
Lol
@MrBurnsExcellent
@MrBurnsExcellent Ай бұрын
@@CombatFXZone This is not Reddit (lucky) (he said this comment needs more 'up votes')
@MrBurnsExcellent
@MrBurnsExcellent Ай бұрын
@@CombatFXZone LOL changed it
@yt_robin_0
@yt_robin_0 Ай бұрын
the FPÖ has been in Gouvernement three times not two. you missed the 1983 coalition with the SPOe
@eliasrjesburg8055
@eliasrjesburg8055 Ай бұрын
not 5 times?
@guacamolegeneral1060
@guacamolegeneral1060 Ай бұрын
5 times actually
@yt_robin_0
@yt_robin_0 Ай бұрын
@@guacamolegeneral1060 depends how you count. strickly speaking 5 times, yes. but twice is was rather a "reshuffling" during the term period..so in the context here i would say 3 times is still ok :)...more importantly it was more than two times and not only with ÖVP
@Lunarpenguin-d1s
@Lunarpenguin-d1s Ай бұрын
@@yt_robin_0and adding to that kreiskys spö was elected in 1970 as a minority government with the votes of the FPÖ.
@MathieuDeVinois
@MathieuDeVinois Ай бұрын
Then the OVP was 2 times. 1 ) before spo and fpo and 2) since them. IMHO it’s time they get a break.
@cosmedelustrac5842
@cosmedelustrac5842 Ай бұрын
At this point, I have a hard time finding a european country where the far-right isn't on the rise.
@ProtectusCZ
@ProtectusCZ Ай бұрын
Probably Scandinavian countries
@lidkasplus
@lidkasplus Ай бұрын
Poland, Spain and Scandinavia, also France recently had a pretty left-wing results in their elections
@PeterJordansonn
@PeterJordansonn Ай бұрын
Albania.
@SDDT24
@SDDT24 Ай бұрын
@@lidkasplus 38% of France voted FN only like 24 voted that alliance of left wing and far left parties, it was more the System they left won
@TheGiacpuelles
@TheGiacpuelles Ай бұрын
Wait for spain....if the mass migration keep happening, the right will have clean it up
@anthonyrinaldi1331
@anthonyrinaldi1331 Ай бұрын
The ability of European governments to ignore the concerns of their people in favor grandstanding is astounding but not unsurprising.
@sandeepkumar-vy3se
@sandeepkumar-vy3se Ай бұрын
Well unfortunately for cheap labour they do
@stefanmaier1853
@stefanmaier1853 Ай бұрын
Well European governments have little manouver room when it comes to the topic at hand, refugees and asylum seekers. The Austrian stance was for a long time a very strict one and has not become any less in recent years. But it acts in the framework of international and national law, especially the European Convention on Human Rights and Geneva Convention. The former is a directly applicable part of the Austrian constitution which cannot be changed by the Austrian legislator but would have to be changed by all the signatory countries. That is also why the FPÖ did not increase the number of repatriations during their term in office from 2017 to 2019.
@JusufBideovic
@JusufBideovic Ай бұрын
how many fucking times is this gonna be repeated? they havent been ignoring migration for the last 6 years. All center right, liberal and christian democrat parties even with some left leaning parties have become openly anti migration. But alas, the average FPO/AFD/PVV voter is so low information that they wouldnt even find this out in the first place.
@nikig2382
@nikig2382 Ай бұрын
Isn’t that basically every government lol
@TheTowerDefender
@TheTowerDefender Ай бұрын
the FPOe is a straight up neonazi party. nothing a government does justifies voting for them
@randomjin9392
@randomjin9392 Ай бұрын
I don't know if it's funny or sad the videos like this still ask the "Why?" question. The writing is on the wall. It was there for almost a decade now. It's now written with burning letters.
@Talisguy
@Talisguy Ай бұрын
A mix of factors including austerity, wealth disparity, chronic underinvestment in young people's futures and the successful scapegoating of very vulnerable people by opportunistic xenophobes, yes.
@advers790
@advers790 Ай бұрын
@@Talisguy ah yes, wanting a safe country where you can go to a christmas event and not see policemen with assault rifles is xenophobia
@anonyKinetic
@anonyKinetic Ай бұрын
@@Talisguy People love scapegoating immigrants and refugees, which makes it so easy for wealthy people to escape accountability. Funny (well, sad) thing is that it's not even exclusive to western countries. Even in third world countries: for example, in my home country of Pakistan, people are blaming Afghans for straining the economy. Like, sure buddy, as if Pakistan will suddenly become a first-world country without the Afghans. The horrific human rights crime the government of Pakistan did recently to kick many of them out has solved very little of our actual problems, and I guarantee most of Europe's problems will remain even if they reduce immigration. Nothing wrong with controlling immigration, but far-right extremism pretending that immigration is the core problem is misguided.
@Pirake123
@Pirake123 Ай бұрын
@@anonyKinetic It's not purely scapegoating though, Germany in 2021, asylum seekers made up 13.1% of all sexual assault suspects, despite comprising only 2.5% of the population (one statistic shown around).
@noriantiri9310
@noriantiri9310 Ай бұрын
​@@advers790yeah obviously the war on christmas is a big issue, and the far right is going to solve it all by deportating migrants and cutting all help to them, this way the people that are already there will feel even more integrated and everything is going to be fine
@roger9240
@roger9240 Ай бұрын
Not sure if its intentionally missleading or poorly researched, but there are multiple errors in the video, e.g. at 1:36 : the FPO has been in governement more then twice. They also formed a coaltion with the SPO in 1983. A couple of sentences later the narrator says the FPO has been a marginal opposition party for decades before they shifted to the right in the 80s. Thats wrong again, they were actually in governement when Haider took over leadership.
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist Ай бұрын
Indeed, in Austria this isn´t really a shocking result, they have been in govt before. Austria has never had a cordon sanitaire policy vis a vis the far right either
@nBomF
@nBomF Ай бұрын
I mean he did mention that it's made from Nazis, so they never were anything else really. Just got more aggressive
@deeznutz8320
@deeznutz8320 Ай бұрын
​@@nBomFwho cares atleast Nazis dont slit our daughters troaths in the name of Allah
@VeryBratty
@VeryBratty Ай бұрын
@@nBomF all of our parties had of nazis in the beginning. even the greens. politics without them would not have been possible without them.
@minecraft991115
@minecraft991115 Ай бұрын
TLDR is a leftwing newschannel that loves doing smear jobs on the right, what dod you expect?
@delux4285
@delux4285 Ай бұрын
Calling the greens "centre left" is crazy 😭
@Superman-ig6zb
@Superman-ig6zb Ай бұрын
waltuh
@leviathan4579
@leviathan4579 Ай бұрын
True, they are far-left.
@dark_messiah8183
@dark_messiah8183 Ай бұрын
@@leviathan4579the greens are conservative environmentalists.
@Andreas-pj6np
@Andreas-pj6np Ай бұрын
They would be centre left in most european countries. We austrians are just way more conservative than we think.
@TheTowerDefender
@TheTowerDefender Ай бұрын
why? they are quite conservative in Austria
@digidevil4
@digidevil4 Ай бұрын
The moderate and left wing parties need to change their stances on immigration at this point, regardless of whether people on the left think its an issue, its clearly a big enough issue that its swinging elections across Europe. This is Russia's main play to survive its current situation in Ukraine, we need to stop it before the effects become irreversible. Sitting around calling people who have been swayed by anti-immigration rhetoric racists isnt serving us anymore.
@greenrico10
@greenrico10 Ай бұрын
they will just legitimize the right wing parties by adopting their policies. They will lose left wing voters and gain nothing.
@to101md
@to101md Ай бұрын
@@greenrico10 Denmark??? From what I've read, it worked swimmingly in delegitimizing the radicals.
@snap_arg
@snap_arg Ай бұрын
This right there is why "you" have to go from power. You just recognized that people that experience and expose the problems of mass migration are not racist. It was just an establishment rhetoric to demonize a part of the population and in the mean time destroying thousands upon thousands of lives. You have no morals, you are despic*ble.
@Franckia
@Franckia Ай бұрын
Communist
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist Ай бұрын
The thing is that Macron has conceded a lot of ground to the FN on immigration and it hasn´t really made them less popular. I think nowadays, the centre-right parties will prefer to make coalitions with the far right than the centre-left, that post-war era is gone. A lot of problems in politics are the result of poor education and frankly, the MSM has pushed a lot of right wing propaganda over the years. If you listened to the MSM, you would think Western Europe is a scary violent place, when it really isn´t.
@privatebandana
@privatebandana Ай бұрын
Up 13% since last election and is now the biggest one, and AS ALWAYS.. the reaction from the status quo parties is not "let's look at why voters are upset and work on those issues together", but rather "let's work together to lock them out from any sort of power, making the population even more angry in the long run". Always the exact same circle in every single European country where the right-wing party has skyrocketed. It's pathetic.
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux Ай бұрын
You don’t understand parliamentarianism. It’s not uncommon at all that parties with 30-40% of seats to be left without any government ministers or policy influence. It happens all the time with major center right and center left parties when the opposition coalitions has a majority. That’s how it works and it’s not undemocratic. FPÖ is for a Western European “far right” party very radical in terms of Pro Russia, Corrupt, Anti EU, anti-constitutional, extremist views/“banter” and anti immigration stance. Much more so than for example PVV in The Netherlands, FDL in Italy, SD and FrP in Sweden/Norway or Reform in the UK. Which makes FPÖ much more difficult to have in government due to safety risks and incompatible policies/values. Not to mention that every FPÖ coalition in history has resulted in collapse and scandals. No wonder the other parties doesn’t want to cooperate. Even if I agree it’s a nessicary evil for the established parties to drastically restrict immigration to disarm the FPÖ’s main voting magnet.
@stammesbruder
@stammesbruder Ай бұрын
The FPÖ puts the most amount of money into propaganda, they primarily work with populistic rethoric - a playbook that has been proven to work over time. The issues created are fictitious or at least over-emphasized. It's not rooted in reality. There is nothing to look into - their voters are victims of (by now) well-known manipulation tactics to believe in a false enemy. It's all their rethoric revolves around - a heterogenous force (which always happens to be a rather powerless minority) that destroys everything we hold dear. The FPÖ is a dangerous party, and it's issues can only be adressed by getting them away from power as much as possible. Otherwise, they will keep poisoning the well. The root-cause can only be effectively adressed by severely limiting freedom of expression, and I think we all know that's not going to happen, for very good reasons.
@mankytoes
@mankytoes Ай бұрын
Well it needs to be both. These Nazi sympathising Russian stooges need to be kept out of power in the short term, but the issues need to be addressed.
@marcpourecio
@marcpourecio Ай бұрын
@@Fluxwuxwith such reply you are literally confirming what he has written over there. Status quo, specially left/socialists/greens are disappearing by 2030 at this point
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux Ай бұрын
@@marcpourecio I simply explained that parties that has proved that they can’t govern in the past and has huge problems with corruption and extremist views (that makes them impossible to work with) doesn’t have a god given right to be a part of government when they have 29% of the vote (average center right/left party voter share in opposition all over Europe). Call that status quo all you want, but it’s not something weird or illogical - especially when grand coalitions have been a thing in European politics in all of modern history. And I’m pretty sure FPÖ will do something insane this term as well that makes them plummet down to 15-20% in the next election, which is basically a rule of nature now. Not to mention that far right parties in Europe usually have a ceiling at about 30%. So no, the left will not disappear by 2030 😅 Do you honestly think Austria must become full Orban, pro Russian, climate deniers, leave the EU and break every constitutional and international law applied on migration (to “send them all back”) and accept their corruption or security risks as ministers just because FPÖ got 29%? What about the 71% of Austrians that didn’t vote FPÖ? Sure I think, the other big parties must (and most likely will) adapt to the concerns of FPÖ voters on issues like migration, crime, cost of living etc in order to win back votes and take the problems more seriously now. But that doesn’t mean a FPÖ lead government, or even ministers.
@yonatanran659
@yonatanran659 Ай бұрын
when did we start classify opposing immigration as far right?
@tammuz1921
@tammuz1921 Ай бұрын
In the 1990s. And you are also far-right for questioning that logic.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 Ай бұрын
Since always? Centrist and left wing parties are not anti-immigration, as least as a blanket statement.
@maxkelly6664
@maxkelly6664 Ай бұрын
@@tammuz1921Obama ran in 2008 on increased controls on immigration.
@greenrico10
@greenrico10 Ай бұрын
I mean they want to do a lot more then just oppose immigration.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 Ай бұрын
So where would you position opposing immigration? Also a party is much more than just its position on immigration.
@gabrielt.2734
@gabrielt.2734 Ай бұрын
I've got only one point of correction: Karl Nehammer didn't rule out a government with Kickl as Chancellor, but with Kickl at the head of the FPÖ. It's kind of different?
@erenaslan5316
@erenaslan5316 Ай бұрын
No he ruled out Kickl being in any important role at all. Let's see if he keeps his promise but he did rule out Kickl as Chancellor or any minister at all
@hartlmarty2951
@hartlmarty2951 Ай бұрын
I just wanted to write the exact same comment 🙂
@juannaym8488
@juannaym8488 Ай бұрын
​@@erenaslan5316I can't see the ÖVP in a coalition as a junior partner. Senior partner, instantly, but I doubt they'll be willing to give up the chancellor position to FPÖ
@erenaslan5316
@erenaslan5316 Ай бұрын
@@juannaym8488 yeah same, their ego is too big lol but yeah I really hope that will happen, I really REALLY do not want the self declared 'Volkskanzler' and that party to be in power
@TheLordHiggs
@TheLordHiggs Ай бұрын
People are sick of terror attacks...
@xataru
@xataru Ай бұрын
How very, very, Islamophobic of them.
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
only ur ppl do these
@nda9605
@nda9605 2 күн бұрын
Islamo​phobic ❌️ Common sense✅️@@xataru
@nda9605
@nda9605 2 күн бұрын
​@@The44thonly islam(the curse to the world) do that
@vlads3283
@vlads3283 Ай бұрын
2:36 so you're saying that the outside world decided to punish Austria for forming a right-wing government and somehow this is normal?
@tammuz1921
@tammuz1921 Ай бұрын
It's liberal logic.
@weiserwolf580
@weiserwolf580 Ай бұрын
yes, just as the Austro-Hungarian empire punished the peoples who did not please them, so now those peoples are punishing the Austro-Hungarians
@jakotic
@jakotic Ай бұрын
no, they decided to "punish" them because of forming a nazi goverment... youre too young to understand why thats a problem..
@shadow_king12344
@shadow_king12344 Ай бұрын
@@weiserwolf580 over 100 years ago
@myfairlady343
@myfairlady343 Ай бұрын
It wasn't normal and also not acceptable. Many have stated that in hindsight
@sirxander5420
@sirxander5420 Ай бұрын
The greens are not "centre-left" XD
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
Yes they are. They're only slightly more left than the SPÖ.
@bosto23
@bosto23 Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 The SPÖ are not center left either
@UfschtonGong
@UfschtonGong Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 in my op they are far left and very authoritrian.
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
@@UfschtonGong Lol, how so? Like name one far-left or authoritarian policy rhey have. Is it the national public transport pass? The climate Bonus?
@weamibrahim2146
@weamibrahim2146 Ай бұрын
​@@UfschtonGong how are they auth
@yoshyoka
@yoshyoka Ай бұрын
Any coalition that does not include the FPÖ will, in the long run favor the FPÖ. Such narrow coalitions will make the country hard to govern, giving ammo to the FPÖ that on the next election can thus focus on how ineffective the other parties were. What I really do not understand, with all polls in Austria showing that immigration is a major concern to the majority of Austrians, why don't the other parties don't just revise their stance on it according to the people's will? The same goes for Germany.
@ChrisP.Austrian
@ChrisP.Austrian Ай бұрын
because they don't care what the voters want and that's because they're left-wing. Nehammer for example, was never chosen by the people.
@samtheman4931
@samtheman4931 Ай бұрын
They can’t and won’t. They receive funding from outside lobbying groups that won’t allow them to change their rhetoric
@konstantinwaser
@konstantinwaser Ай бұрын
Because it is not like the parties in Austria dont talk about immigration, the ÖVP actually has a pretty hard stance on immigration, comparing their stance 10 years ago, also the other parties talk differently and actually moved more into the right, concerning this topic. But they also show that it isnt that easy to just say that all immigrants are bad. So when someone steps up and tells mostly formally less-educated people that dont really want to invest their time to research history and politics that everything is the immigrants fault, the people may even WANT to believe it, as in this case, they would not be held responsible for mistakes they made or bad luck they had in their past. (This should not be a personal attack on these people, the votes show that less formally educated people tend to vote more for the FPÖ) Also, all "solutions" of the FPÖ concerning immigration actually are just plain dumb, like "we dont let anybody in anymore" which violates Human Rights, the Austrian constitution, geneva convention, EU-laws and so on. What is pretty funny is that, every voter that really fears immigration (even though statistics show that at least economically immigrants are almost always a net-positive - just look at the USA) would be better off voting the ÖVP, as their stances would actually be implementable. And the funniest, the "working class people" that now tend to vote for the FPÖ, actually would suffer the most under a FPÖ-ÖVP coalition (which is the only possibility where their voted party would be in charge), because all economic and social policies by these parties would help the upper 10% (approximately of course). But why take an interest in politics when someone gives you free beer and tells you that everything is another persons fault... And yeah we still have around 10% naz*s in this country that will vote for the party no matter what happens, as shown after Ibiza. And maybe one last thing, you cant just "revise" your stance on immigration if you have something like a moral code. This party (FPÖ) talks about pushing people back into countries where they suffered for many years under sometimes cruel dictators or fundamentalist idiots, which would statistically kill them with a high probability, which I at least find a bit wrong...
@Someone-gx2sb
@Someone-gx2sb Ай бұрын
The other parties do and already have changed their positions, but, as always, the original profits the most out of it. Also, while immigration is a major concern, people generally don't really care about work or outcomes, they just want to hear racist bullshit to feel safe. Why I'm sure of that? Kickl was minister of inner affairs, during the last ÖVP-FPÖ-coalition. Under his reign, the most refugees arrived in Austria - However, people rather ignore that, because he's talking like a screaming toddler in kindergarden, much to the liking of a lot of people.
@TheHiebl007
@TheHiebl007 Ай бұрын
Some did though. The ÖVP immigration stance is very close to the FPÖ stance. Most differences are constitutional issues (stuff the FPÖ promises but can't deliver without a government that has two thirds of the seats in parliament). The people just don't believe them, because it's the FPÖ's main topic since the 1990s.
@lukethevampire8970
@lukethevampire8970 Ай бұрын
The fact that 29% of austrians, vote for a party that was founded by THREE former NSDAP members one of them being a high ranking SS general and politician in the brown house is VERY concerning.
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
exactly
@JimboRustles
@JimboRustles Ай бұрын
Don't look up the pasts of the people in charge in 1950s and 60s Germany then.
@deepaksayee3414
@deepaksayee3414 Ай бұрын
The party leader is a jew. So no need to be concerned about its nazi founders
@fatpig8989
@fatpig8989 22 күн бұрын
Concerning its not run by said SS men.
@MovieMenno
@MovieMenno Ай бұрын
Not wanting to become a hated minority in your own homeland is not far-right
@jackdunn3235
@jackdunn3235 Ай бұрын
Then make more babies.
@MovieMenno
@MovieMenno Ай бұрын
​@@jackdunn3235 very important indeed, i will do my part But for the whole country not possible/feasible if not combined with a migration-stop/remigration
@lightningstrike5024
@lightningstrike5024 Ай бұрын
thinking that would even happen IS far-right
@potatomahonman5008
@potatomahonman5008 Ай бұрын
@@lightningstrike5024Then the far-right is objectively correct
@serenityssolace
@serenityssolace Ай бұрын
​@@lightningstrike5024Denying reality is far left. Literally wake up
@moraithofer1712
@moraithofer1712 Ай бұрын
The FPÖ has actually been a partner in a coalition government three times. The first time was from 1983-1986 as junior partner in an SPÖ led coalition under chancellors Sinowatz and Vranitzky.
@kobusvanrensburg4092
@kobusvanrensburg4092 Ай бұрын
What exactly constitutes "far right" ?
@deeznutz8320
@deeznutz8320 Ай бұрын
Not wanting non Europeans as a majority
@NorthRemembers
@NorthRemembers Ай бұрын
being founded by nazis (and I mean literal members of the NSDAP) and never properly severing ties with their past is a good indication
@dimon3098
@dimon3098 Ай бұрын
If your mps sing SS songs doesn’t make you for right? Keep denying reality those people are insane
@lazyboy300
@lazyboy300 Ай бұрын
hatred for diversity and minorities, desire to live in an ethnostate, closed off from the rest of the world, over-attachment for traditions and religion, desire for a strongman, a leader who puts things back in their place and leads the nation back to it's former glory. "germany for the germans", "make america great again", "god, homeland, family" and all that 1930s crap. usually there's a good dose of militarism and distrust in international institutions, laws and diplomacy too.
@shutup2483
@shutup2483 Ай бұрын
@@dimon3098 That's also the problem, is that people are uneducated and just being spoon-fed whatever narrative the media wants to push. The song in question dates back to 1814, long before Hitler, and has absolutely nothing to do with Nazism. The Nazis sang Christmas songs, drove Volkswagens and listened to Bach, Beethoven & Mozart too, should those be cancelled as well?
@Tragedyflow
@Tragedyflow Ай бұрын
8:02 "What do the worlds best politicians have in common??" Proceeds to show Ursula and Joe.. LOL 😂😂😂
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux Ай бұрын
My bet is a Dutch or Swedish government solution. With either a ÖVP or Technocrat Chancellor and FPÖ ministers, alongside several key FPÖ policies, but with some compromises, being implemented as compensation for missing the chancellor position (Dutch). Or a ÖVP one party minority government with a sort of strict written policy agreement with the FPÖ and tight cooperation, but no FPÖ ministers in government. But as compromise the FPÖ gets essentially complete control over migration policy and some other issues, but ÖVP gets to decide most other things like foreign policy, economic policy etc (Swedish)
@tturtle1659
@tturtle1659 Ай бұрын
The problem is that the ÖVP also wants to forsake our neutrality drag Austria into NATO and is not prepared to confront its mistakes during the Cor__a years.
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux Ай бұрын
@@tturtle1659 If one of these solutions occur, I am pretty sure FPÖ will be able to veto NATO however. As it is such a major decision
@stefanmaier1853
@stefanmaier1853 Ай бұрын
Non of those are very likely in the Austrian system as the Federal President would probably not go with any of those solutions. The most likely option even with the slim margin is a ÖVP/SPÖ government, with a more unlikely option of a ÖVP/SPÖ/NEOS triple coalition. The second possible option is a FPÖ/ÖVP government, which at the moment seems very unlikely unless one of the two parties switches their leader and the ÖVP does a 180° u-turn on its position and the Federal President does one too. He has to this point ruled out to appoint the FPÖ to a government due to their anti EU and anti human rights positions. A technocratic government is very unlikely, a ÖVP minority government is all but impossible - who should back that up? The FPÖ defininitly not, the SPÖ certainly not as well. BTW the whole fuss about migration policies. Austria already has very strict rules there, scraping the limits of what the European Convention on human rights allows. The FPÖ already had control of the Interior ministry and that policy area, the number of refugees arriving did not decrease and the number of repatriations did not increase. It is all a bunch of BS promises, that is not founded in anything the Austrian constiution would allow. So unless the FPÖ goes full dictatorship and flies in Russian troops to back themselves up, there wont be any significant changes to the way Austria treats migrants.
@tturtle1659
@tturtle1659 Ай бұрын
@@Fluxwux nope, it needs at least 33% of all votes to block such a decision.
@tturtle1659
@tturtle1659 Ай бұрын
@@stefanmaier1853 stop telling lies, the numbers DID drop during Kickl's very short term as interior minister, and our rules are basically we allow anyone and his dog to claim asylum status as soon as they set foot on our soil. Kickl did start to reform the law and the court did NOT decide all of the proposals were in breach of the ECHR or our constitution, only some were, and it was expected the proposal could be sufficiently tweaked to conform. Then of course Kurz and our active mummy in the Hofburg decided to break up the coalition, so. The same as what the FPÖ proposes has already done the trick in Denmark (ruled by sensible Socialists, not dreamers like the Babler SPÖ), Sweden and Holland. And let us not even mention the Visegrad states.
@Ar_Ator
@Ar_Ator Ай бұрын
>migration >Immediately vote for the guys singing SS songs country wide brain injury
@fatpig8989
@fatpig8989 22 күн бұрын
Its a shake its not run by the SS.
@adineatha9766
@adineatha9766 Ай бұрын
Pan Germanists? Does this mean reunification with Germany?
@rlife7853
@rlife7853 Ай бұрын
Not the first time it happened
@Baumstumpf.
@Baumstumpf. Ай бұрын
While I get this is a joke it is in the Austrian constitution that it can not join Germany.
@AustrianPainter14
@AustrianPainter14 Ай бұрын
Baumstumpf. Because a piece of paper matters
@PeterJordansonn
@PeterJordansonn Ай бұрын
It would be not less just than annexation of Eastern Germany.
@SDDT24
@SDDT24 Ай бұрын
@@rlife7853actually pan germanism was expected for the whole history of the 1st reich it was only bismarks “small Germany” policy that changed that expectation
@p.f132
@p.f132 Ай бұрын
I'm so fucking done with my country. 5 years of systematic dismantling of social security and services incoming. Thank god for Schengen. I'm done. I'm out.
@Pfrimel
@Pfrimel Ай бұрын
Though I agree with your prediction, that the next 5 years will not change our country to the better, I disagree that the dismantling of social security and services will be so bad, that it will justify moving to another country. (Where will you go? Germany? France? Hungry?) I would consider the main risk of a ÖVP-FPÖ-coalition, that it will "clean up" the corruption prosecution like they did with the constitution protection during their last time, and finally dismantle independence of justice. Basically a "project 2025" in small...
Ай бұрын
Very nice, go to california or chicago and enjoy diversity while we enjoy a right wing government
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
how does that boot taste?
@simonkile598
@simonkile598 Ай бұрын
Kurz is spelled kurz, not kurtz
@thieph
@thieph Ай бұрын
No, is not. Kurts, z in german is ts
@simonkile598
@simonkile598 Ай бұрын
@@thieph bro, trust me. I’m German. Sebastian Kurz was not named Sebastian Kurtz.
@simonkile598
@simonkile598 Ай бұрын
@@thieph you know, the former Austrian chancellor
@simonkile598
@simonkile598 Ай бұрын
@@thieph that this video is referencing
@saulgoodmanKAZAKH
@saulgoodmanKAZAKH Ай бұрын
​@@thieph It is READ as Kurts, but it is spelled as Kurz, because the German Z makes the TS sound
@MilkshakeBoiDarude
@MilkshakeBoiDarude Ай бұрын
Correction: The FPÖ was already in a ruling coalition before 2000 with the SPÖ from 1983 to 1987. Also, the name of the party NEOS is usually not pronounced as an acronym but as plural "the neos".
@jakalordarkblood4331
@jakalordarkblood4331 Ай бұрын
Technically was in a ruling coalition with the Germans before that too :P
@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg
@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg Ай бұрын
NEOS is such an autistic name.
@MaxiTB
@MaxiTB Ай бұрын
This video is riddled with inaccurracies, I pointed them all out but my comment was deleted 🙂
@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg
@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg Ай бұрын
@@MaxiTB welcome to youtube 2024. 90% propaganda and censorship.
@MilkshakeBoiDarude
@MilkshakeBoiDarude Ай бұрын
@@MaxiTB what were the other inaccuracies you spotted? Hopefully you can mention them here in a subcomment without them being deleted
@vardekpetrovic9716
@vardekpetrovic9716 Ай бұрын
Ö is NOT O. It is a completely different sound. It is like the I in "Bird" or "Firth" or sometimes like the u in "Furry" depending on where it is placed in a word.
@BuIldogProd
@BuIldogProd Ай бұрын
Is this party actually “far-right” or is it more so centre right
@f23-n4t
@f23-n4t Ай бұрын
Its right wing but not far right
@rcforb5255
@rcforb5255 Ай бұрын
The party wants to: -Completely halt asylum migration, violating multiple international treaties -Deport immigrants already living in the country The party also openly supports Russia, a dictatorial terrorist state, and wants to cut all aid to Ukraine. The party is also massively corrupt, which was explained in this video I wouldnt considers these things "center right"
@sciencefliestothemoon2305
@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Ай бұрын
They are Nazis in disguise. If they could, they would start the 4th Reich.
@NorthRemembers
@NorthRemembers Ай бұрын
very far right, nowhere near the centre
@charlesjameskelly7689
@charlesjameskelly7689 Ай бұрын
Any party that is not pro immigration is considered far right by tldr
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks Ай бұрын
It's absolutely crazy that people just ignore history. Anyone who gives any semblance of a shit should be very concerned about and very opposed to the rise of the far right.
@antivaushistischeaktion4690
@antivaushistischeaktion4690 Ай бұрын
Only degens like yourself have any reason to be opposed to the rise of the non-existent far right.
@FabianAndra-pd6ks
@FabianAndra-pd6ks Ай бұрын
As an Austrian myself i dont like this party (far-right) at all. They where the strongest in this election, but they probably wont be even in the government, because they dont have 50 percent. 70% of Austria is against them and that is good. If some Americans would say now it is unfair that the strongest party will not be part of goverment, then you are wrong because thats not how parlamentary elections work over here.
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux Ай бұрын
True! There are countless examples of all sorts of parties (usually centrist establishment parties) at 30+% of the vote that get zero government/policy influence because the opposition coalition is bigger in modern European political history. That’s just how parliamentarianism works.
@tomc642
@tomc642 Ай бұрын
@@FabianAndra-pd6ks Yet, the Greens who only a minority ever supported are often included in a coalition and represented, whereas a majority is often excluded. Doesn’t sound right to me.
@reschi56
@reschi56 Ай бұрын
Bullshit, not voting for them !=against them, by that reasoning 70% of Austria is against the ÖVP and SPÖ. In reality, a potential blue black government has the biggest approval rating in Austria.
@tturtle1659
@tturtle1659 Ай бұрын
70% are not against them, I'm fairly certain most of the 26% who voted ÖVP would rather have a coalition between the ÖVP and the FPÖ instead of one between ÖVP, the SPÖ and some small party like the Greens or the Neos. That the Nehammer faction managed to dig itself into the hole of "not with Kickl" is another matter.
@andysierra1618
@andysierra1618 Ай бұрын
Exclude them from government and they will be back for more in the next election
@RowanNagy97
@RowanNagy97 Ай бұрын
The way you pronounce Ibiza is an interesting choice haha
@cabinessenceking
@cabinessenceking Ай бұрын
english pronounciation: EYE-bee-zah spanish pronounciation: E-bee-tha TLDR using an interesting hybrid version!
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 Ай бұрын
⁠@@cabinessenceking*american English pronunciation In Britain we said “eye-bee-tha”
@thieph
@thieph Ай бұрын
​@@lachlanchester8142Eeh-bee-tsah is correct
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 Ай бұрын
@@thieph since when? Look up how it’s said in Spanish…
@thieph
@thieph Ай бұрын
@@lachlanchester8142 Ibiza is a italian island, lol
@ackchyually9461
@ackchyually9461 Ай бұрын
seems like the "far-right" slur stopped working
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 Ай бұрын
...it only becomes far-right the moment they "turn on the gas" - am I right?
@ackchyually9461
@ackchyually9461 Ай бұрын
@@jarls5890 slippery slope argument
@leGUIGUI
@leGUIGUI Ай бұрын
It's not a slur, it's a statement of fact.
@memetopia5130
@memetopia5130 Ай бұрын
@@leGUIGUI Not really, a lot of the parties labelled as far right are not, they're usually moderate parties, like the NF, FPO, AFD, SD etc etc. These parties are moderate compared to most on far right
@elliec4154
@elliec4154 Ай бұрын
We're all far right now.
@floppa9415
@floppa9415 Ай бұрын
Either democracy ends migration or migration ends democracy.
@crisgetcrucified6972
@crisgetcrucified6972 Ай бұрын
What type of racism are you smoking?
@jamie59685
@jamie59685 Ай бұрын
@crisgetcrucified6972 he's not wrong though. Import the third world, become the third world
@crisgetcrucified6972
@crisgetcrucified6972 Ай бұрын
@@jamie59685 they made the third world in the first place
@Pfrimel
@Pfrimel Ай бұрын
Until we find a solution to the worldwide wealth inequality (which also means that we need to stop getting investment income from former colonial nations which far exceeds "development help"), the motivation to migrate will only increase. But the reason why migration will end democracy is not because we cannot afford to integrate refugees or refugees leading to exploding criminality, but instead because the capitalists suck our economy dry, and the rightwing parties are successfully redirecting the blame, because they are supported by the anti-left capitalists (they prefer to be oligarchs in fascism instead of being unneeded in socialism). There are obstacles with democracys ending migration: Asylum is a human right, and therefore at least for this part you are not able to remove it, without damaging your constitutional state which we consider to be part of "spirit of democracy". And yes, that includes "push backs". Also there are many people who you cannot "deport", if they illegaly travel to your country: no nationality (or they are successfull to hide it), source country does not accept them,... I would assume a country trying the "final solution" for this problem to not be considered a democracy any more...
@enricomacciotta9613
@enricomacciotta9613 Ай бұрын
Racist crybabies are the funniest people on earth
@niarudle
@niarudle Ай бұрын
5:39 A small correction: the former chancellor is called "Kurz", without "t".
@davy360
@davy360 Ай бұрын
The FPÖ was also part of the coalition government from '83 to '87. Do your research!
@kaanyasin3733
@kaanyasin3733 Ай бұрын
1:18 the FPÖ has been in goverment 3 times and supported a minority goverment twice. (Kreisky and Sinowatz, both SPÖ and Schlüssel I and Kurz I)
@andrazstrmcnik2331
@andrazstrmcnik2331 Ай бұрын
So being anti imigration makes you far right nowadays ?
@Verox42
@Verox42 Ай бұрын
@@andrazstrmcnik2331 No, but being a racist does - Rightfully so, I might add.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 Ай бұрын
Yes
@omccc
@omccc Ай бұрын
Kinda sad right?
@omccc
@omccc Ай бұрын
@@soundscape26sad isn‘t it?
@omccc
@omccc Ай бұрын
@@Verox42Racism and nazism is something completely different
@danielbuckler7906
@danielbuckler7906 Ай бұрын
1:52 how's being anti EU anti Europe😅😅😅
@radosawmarkowski5379
@radosawmarkowski5379 Ай бұрын
Well that’s pretty much the same Especially when Russia does everything possible to weaken the EU
@Hardcore_Remixer
@Hardcore_Remixer Ай бұрын
​@@radosawmarkowski5379 EU and Europe aren't the same thing. And it was EU that set itself against Russia, not the other way around. Of course that neutrality and national sovereignty must feel very anti-EU to you.
@shibavekreal
@shibavekreal Ай бұрын
​@@Hardcore_Remixeryes I remember the EU violating international treaties and launching an invasion of Ukraine... wait no that was Ruzzia lol
@JeffPar50
@JeffPar50 Ай бұрын
Being pro-Russia is not exactly pro-Europe
@Hardcore_Remixer
@Hardcore_Remixer Ай бұрын
@@JeffPar50 Being fully neutral means ignoring Russia's wars and just making business as usual, aka no sanctions. Of course, neutrality must feel pro-Russian to you.
@EF2000Typhoon7LWA
@EF2000Typhoon7LWA Ай бұрын
Somehow people are shocked that if you ignore the problems caused by migration that the people move to the people talking about the problems... yeah, very big brain
@nBomF
@nBomF Ай бұрын
Love the content. Two minor corrections: 1. Only 2% voted for FPÖ because of Kickl. 2. And Kreisky was also called peoples chancellor, who is one of the most celebrated Austrian politicians from all sides. So that's who "others" also includes. It's just a weird thing a controversial German comedian started. Otherwise it's a short, but fair representation.
@thepax2621
@thepax2621 Ай бұрын
First video I've seen with a correct title: "...yet another far-right victory..." Its an european trend at this point
@charlesjameskelly7689
@charlesjameskelly7689 Ай бұрын
Another huge win for Europeans
@Patrick-y4d1z
@Patrick-y4d1z Ай бұрын
I don't even know if it's "far right"
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
@@charlesjameskelly7689 another huge L for europe.
@bridiptabharali3433
@bridiptabharali3433 Ай бұрын
​​@@The44th then left should have defended the w more wisely and carefully, Machevill principle no. 1 people are selfish
@yinzuro
@yinzuro Ай бұрын
In my opinion, as an Austrian, an FPÖ and ÖVP coalition is the most likely. First, other coalitions would have to include an ÖVP/SPÖ partnership, which is highly unlikely given their current political stands, such as the SPÖ wanting to introduce a 32-hour workweek. They also prefered the FPÖ over the SPÖ in the past when it came to coalition forming. I'm also not sure if Nehammer will remain the leader of the ÖVP. Additionally, it would look pretty undemocratic if Van der Bellen didn't give the task of forming a government to the FPÖ, which would only strengthen them in the next election.
@MaxiTB
@MaxiTB Ай бұрын
This is the least likely coalition because it would mean one of the party leaders have to step down which historically never worked. The most likely outcome is a ÖVP-SPÖ-NEOS coalition, simple because the ÖVP/Greens have completely lost trust in each other over the recent months, especially since the EU debacle.
@tturtle1659
@tturtle1659 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Schmähammer, Karoline Edtstadler, Hanger and the rest of that lot will have to go first, and that's down to whoever pulls the strings at the ÖVP (possibly Johanna Mikl-Leitner?). The other alternative would be Germany-like coalition which will do nothing to deal with the issues we face and I predict will fall apart way before full legislature period. And then the FPÖ will get 40%, not 29% of the votes.
@yinzuro
@yinzuro Ай бұрын
@@MaxiTB Yeah,but then again, I can't really see an ÖVP/SPÖ coalition consindering how they interacted with each other during and before the election. So the question is if, as you said, a ÖVP/SPÖ/NEOS coalition would work together just because they really don't want the FPÖ in government which could backfire pretty damn big imo.
@MaxiTB
@MaxiTB Ай бұрын
@@yinzuro True, keep in mind I said most likely, not best or flawless. NEOS will push them to support reforms or they would totally bite themselves into the behind and the grand old parties will not be happy with that. So the coalition is a high risk affair, it could pay off greatly for everyone or bomb like a grand coalition without them - cause let's be honest, nothing would end up being done in another grand one.
@silverdoctor6298
@silverdoctor6298 Ай бұрын
A little explanation for everyone: Far-right: Anarcho-capitalism, stalinism (maoism, titoism ecc.), fascism and nazism (also neo-fascim and neo-nazism), Right-wing: Minarchism (not mOnarchism), national conservatism Centre-right: Liberal conservatism Centre: Liberalism, christian democracy Centre-left: Progressive social democracy Left-Wing: Socialism, democratic socialism, eco-socialism (always progressive) Far-Left: Communism, anarchism (anarcho-communism/anarcho-syndicalism), syndicalism.
@superyoism
@superyoism Ай бұрын
Stalinism lol is not right wing what are you on
@silverdoctor6298
@silverdoctor6298 Ай бұрын
@@superyoism You want the short list or the long list of motivation why stalinism is right-wing?
@Chicky_Lumps
@Chicky_Lumps Ай бұрын
Eeeh I wouldn't describe Stalinism or Maoism as right wing, mainly just very authoritarian with varying degrees of being centrist to left wing.
@silverdoctor6298
@silverdoctor6298 Ай бұрын
@@Chicky_Lumps the problem is linking "authoritarianism" with "left-wing"
@Chicky_Lumps
@Chicky_Lumps Ай бұрын
@@silverdoctor6298 No it's not, the authoritarian-libertarian scale is not identical to the economic Left-Right scale. You're correct if you're just talking about Marxian ideals, but Marx being "libleft" doesn't mean other people and governments didn't take on "authleft" ideals in practice. I shall now need to take a shower and touch grass.
@Otto_42
@Otto_42 10 күн бұрын
Freiheit für Österreich 💙
@USEismydream
@USEismydream Ай бұрын
Btw. I just want to say that Austria is just so lucky that everyone is always criticizing Germany. If everyone took such a close look at Austria, things would definitely be different there. Hugs and kisses from Germany 😄
@Túrin_Tura
@Túrin_Tura Ай бұрын
you cant replace a people and expect them to not become radicalized. how is this surprising?????
@alessandramaria00
@alessandramaria00 Ай бұрын
1) learn english 2) "great replacement" really? Where that has happened lol
@Túrin_Tura
@Túrin_Tura Ай бұрын
@@alessandramaria00 if you can honestly take a look at European demographics and not see that there is a replacement taking place then I dont think there is hope for you
@Unpseudopascommelesautres
@Unpseudopascommelesautres Ай бұрын
​@@alessandramaria00Everywhere where statistics are open. In UK, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden. Etc
@MinecraftLively
@MinecraftLively Ай бұрын
@@alessandramaria00in my home of Texas. When I was born it was 80% European white. It is now majority-plurality Hispanic
@hendrx
@hendrx Ай бұрын
@@MinecraftLively it also used to be 100% natives before your kind ___
@PwerRanger01
@PwerRanger01 Ай бұрын
Good. Good times ahead for actual Europeans. Nationaliststronk.
@lukethevampire8970
@lukethevampire8970 Ай бұрын
Ahahahahahahaha, cant wait for the "we couldnt know how bad they were" arguments once these far right lunatics turn everything into shit.
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
70% of the population is against them and dont want them in the government. Take the L😂😂😂
@giantWario
@giantWario Ай бұрын
Can the President really stop the FPO leader from becoming chancellor when they had the most votes though? As far as I know, presidents in Austria are a ceremonial role like the British Monarchy in the UK and Canada. They're not an actual powerful politician like Macron in France.
@Matko722
@Matko722 Ай бұрын
@giantWario Yes, the president is the only one directly voted by the people, and has more power than people think. He can also dissolve goverments and is the military commander in chief. The use of this power just wasnt necessary yet. If he doesnt order FPÖ to make a government it would be a highly undemocratic move tough
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody Ай бұрын
Austrian presidents aren't nearly as much a collection of mannequins as the German ones. He can refuse to swear in ministers for example. Also, the first party forms the government is a pragmatic convention, not a hard rule. They need a majority.
@sciencefliestothemoon2305
@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Ай бұрын
​@@Matko722it wouldn't though, as 71% did not vote for them. They do not have a majority, so it is up to parties to negotiate the coalition
@Matko722
@Matko722 Ай бұрын
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 it is because the president would break a tradition that always existed, because of personal favor. And well you could say this of every other party too? So i dont understand the point of your statement, especially because FPÖ and ÖVP have similar party program.
@sciencefliestothemoon2305
@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Ай бұрын
@@Matko722 Tradition is not law. You don't understand it because you confuse tradition with law.
@roffaleft499
@roffaleft499 Ай бұрын
It's a shame that you again missed a key factor in analyzing the election results - the education level of the voters. Here are some more detailed numbers from ORF's analysis. Voters with a University degree: ÖVP: 27% NEOS: 19% SPÖ: 18% Greens: 16% FPÖ: 15% Voters with at least a completed high school: ÖVP: 29% SPÖ: 20% NEOS: 16% FPÖ: 16% Greens: 12% Voters who're currently employed, but don't have a completed high school degree: FPÖ: 47% ÖVP: 17% SPÖ: 16% NEOS: 9% Greens: 5% And another very worrying statistic: 45% of the the voters who cast their vote for the FPÖ believe that democracy is NOT the best form of government.. In short yet another election with a stark difference in outcome between the uneducated and the educated population. The uneducated simply don't have the necessary critical and analytical skills to understand the causes of the current mediocre state of the economy in EU and equally as important aren't capable of devising actionable solutions to the problems and thus fall for populism. Plus they tend to spend a lot of their time on social media complaining very loudly instead of using that time to think about solutions and addressing with their local MP(s).. Yes high immigration rates are problematic (the majority of the immigration to Austria is from other EU/EEA countries though) and it's important that immigrants from outside the EU are well and quickly integrated (and that was often neglected by social-democratic parties in Western countries). But from my experience (I live in Oberbayern close to the Austrian border) many of these uneducated FPÖ voters who are "anti-immigration" in fact mean "I want Austria to leave the EU, because all these Croats, Slovenians, Romanians, Poles are taking our jobs and Germans/Bavarians are buying our houses in-mass!" equally as much as they dislike and despise "Muslims and Arabs".
@JimboRustles
@JimboRustles Ай бұрын
So people who didn't go through left-wing indoctrination courses at universities are less likely to vote left wing? Imagine my shock!
@rodrigorincongarcia771
@rodrigorincongarcia771 Ай бұрын
Not really hard to explain. The "classicl" european parties are constantly getting further away from the people who pays their salaries. In some places (like this case) people see that and act accordingly and in other they choose "another round of the same stuff no matter what".
@anuragsinha2013
@anuragsinha2013 Ай бұрын
I remember reading someone's comment on this channel saying "As usual TLDR gets things half right and half wrong" as if they didn't read because it was too long. Still true to this day about this channel.
@Simon-A.-Tan
@Simon-A.-Tan Ай бұрын
As secretary of the interior, Hickl literally had security services raided in order to garner intell on their observations of right wing extremist groups. This guy is terrifying.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth
@Kalimdor199Menegroth Ай бұрын
Terrifying? He is a Chad. We love him.
@ISAACcookie
@ISAACcookie Ай бұрын
that actually sounds massive, never heard of it. Is there a good way to read up on it, can't find it with a quick search.
@enricomacciotta9613
@enricomacciotta9613 Ай бұрын
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth Yes you do have a history of lovable wannabe painters, don't you?
@PeterJordansonn
@PeterJordansonn Ай бұрын
This is not because Hickl is a problem. This is a problem with the Ministry of the Interior.
@Baumstumpf.
@Baumstumpf. Ай бұрын
We do not love him an I hope when he leaves he takes historical inspiration in how to "depart"
@potatomahonman5008
@potatomahonman5008 Ай бұрын
It’s very encouraging to see talk of “remigration” become mainstream in Europe and parties winning elections with that kind of rhetoric. Major progress has been made, even in just the last 5 years.
@deeznutz8320
@deeznutz8320 Ай бұрын
Yup it turned Sweden from a safe haven to the rape capital of west Europe Jeeeej mogration
@Solid_Snake99
@Solid_Snake99 Ай бұрын
true! we need deportations very soon, crime is exploding
@JakobPossert
@JakobPossert Ай бұрын
I wouldn't interpret Van der Bellen's tweet as rejecting FPÖ, rather calming worries of non-FPÖ voters (some of which are quite concerned right now )
@kaanyasin3733
@kaanyasin3733 Ай бұрын
The FPÖ being a junior partner to the ÖVP, while having won more votes isnt a rare thing. Back in Schlüssel I the FPÖ under Haider also backed aside, with Haider returning to Carinthia/Kärnten and the ÖVP putting up the chancellor
@jakubekch.3621
@jakubekch.3621 Ай бұрын
- mom I've hurt my knee! - oh no, witch one? The left one or the far right one?
@dendradwar9464
@dendradwar9464 Ай бұрын
Greens "Centre Left" Nah .. green on outside, blood red on the inside
@leGUIGUI
@leGUIGUI Ай бұрын
You say that as if it was a bad thing.
@jhinthevirtuoso4886
@jhinthevirtuoso4886 Ай бұрын
​@@leGUIGUIit is commie.
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson Ай бұрын
Green on the outside, red on the inside? Are you saying that the Greens are watermelons? 😉
@NicolasHaufe
@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын
The Red represents the blood on their hands
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, my father died getting the Klimabonus. I still see the mass graves from the Österreich-Ticket sometimes.😂😂
@Knightedddd
@Knightedddd Ай бұрын
Far right? Because we don’t want Vienna to become Baghdad?
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Ай бұрын
because it's more right-wing than the current right-wing party. What ? You want to call FPO centre right and die volkspartei centre left ? Die volkspartei is right, so FPO is more/far right
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
tell your government to leave the middle east then
@cirplelyxe
@cirplelyxe Ай бұрын
@@The44th 🤡🤡
@silbernesgold1333
@silbernesgold1333 8 күн бұрын
Faszinierend wie manche Leute fremde Menschen fürchten. Wien ist gemischter als früher, sicher, aber was ist das Problem dabei? Richtige Integration, fast alle machen keine Probleme.
@Felixfelychee
@Felixfelychee Ай бұрын
A FPÖ/ÖVP coalition is (sadly) not as out of the question as you make it out to be. Most Austrians (me included) think that it is the most likely outcome. And even if it somehow isn't, the FPÖ will only have more fodder (Since a OVP/SPÖ coalition will most likely not stop the inflation and we have a major middle east crisis incoming) for the next run and can really lean into the victim role.
@azerko
@azerko Ай бұрын
Far right meaning right...
@nBomF
@nBomF Ай бұрын
Really sad to see that Austria is now viewed simmilar to Hungary...
@Hdtk2024
@Hdtk2024 Ай бұрын
The absolute majority in every EU country want less migration. Politicians needs to start listening to them.
@shantyclips6358
@shantyclips6358 Ай бұрын
"Center-left" Greens!? You have to be kidding me!!! It doesn't get much more radical! And you guys call yourself unbiased. 😂
@herroberbesserwisser7331
@herroberbesserwisser7331 Ай бұрын
They are radically conservative. While the KPÖ are center left (parlamentarianism and nothing revolutionary, very sad)
@ATTP-YT
@ATTP-YT Ай бұрын
Who would have thought that TLDR is biased af?!
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
What specific policies of theirs are so radical? Was it the Austria-wide public transport pass? Fighting climate change?
@shantyclips6358
@shantyclips6358 Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 Enforcing speech codes which 75 % of the population oppose, supporting mass-illegal immigration and opposing any border control on a EU level, hindering the development of vital infrastructure based on erroneous environmentlism, blocking the construction of hydroplants producing clean energy, blocking the construction of disaster precautions right before a massive flood happened etc. etc.
@TheHiebl007
@TheHiebl007 Ай бұрын
@@shantyclips6358 What of that would you consider far left? May that be stupid? for sure. But what does this have to do with Left-wing politics (a.k.a. political ideologies that support and seek to achieve social equality and egalitarianism)? You can be center-left and for radical climate action. You can be far right and for radical climate action. Environmentalism isn't captured by the left-right schema, it's another dimension of analysis (e.g. an axis) in itself.
@Likasense
@Likasense 21 күн бұрын
Great Britain, germany and France: I'M STILL STANDING !!!
@Sasukewoody1999
@Sasukewoody1999 Ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me why Nehammer can place demands on who leads the FPO when they didn’t win the election, sorry I wasn’t old enough last time a coalition happened in my country 😅, I assumed it would be up to Kickl and his team to decide who to form a coalition with???
@LukeSkywoeger
@LukeSkywoeger Ай бұрын
That is the worst possible way of pronouncing "Ibiza"
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 Ай бұрын
How would you suggest pronouncing it? And if you suggest pronouncing the z you are wrong
@LukeSkywoeger
@LukeSkywoeger Ай бұрын
The first letzer is pronounced similar to how you say the letter "E" in english. Just ask the "Vengaboys", who's song "We're going to Ibiza" went viral in Austria when the scandal broke
@delux4285
@delux4285 Ай бұрын
its how spanish people say it, its correct
@christiannusser9976
@christiannusser9976 Ай бұрын
Say the vowel "Ö", it´s not that hard. It´s ÖVP, not OVP. It´s FPÖ, not FPO. It´s SPÖ, not SPO.
@gsiff4422
@gsiff4422 Ай бұрын
This sound doesn’t exist in English. You’re watching a video from a Brit so expect that pronunciation. Should you wish to hear a proper “Ö,” watch a German language video
@DracoSalieri
@DracoSalieri Ай бұрын
Quick question for the TDLR staff. Do you tie your left shoe or your far-right shoe first?
@potatogamble
@potatogamble Ай бұрын
LOL TRUE
@daemontargaryen5614
@daemontargaryen5614 Ай бұрын
The ÖVP is right wing, FPÖ is far right.
@almasshinwari2802
@almasshinwari2802 Ай бұрын
Seems like you tried there, but your question doesn't make any sense. Anyway, the ÖVP is right-wing, and the FPÖ is far-right, obviously.
@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781
@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781 Ай бұрын
1:32
@davedavids57
@davedavids57 Ай бұрын
OK Austrian Politics left to right - far left KPÖ, centre left Greens and SPÖ , Centre Neons and Beer, centre right ÖVP, far right FPÖ. Make sense now? The easiest way to think about it is the parties no one wants to work with, so the KPÖ and FPÖ are "far".
@radosawmarkowski5379
@radosawmarkowski5379 Ай бұрын
They’re so happy with their 29%
@HersderaNilers
@HersderaNilers Ай бұрын
Our economy is facing challenges due to uncertainties, housing issues, foreclosures, global fluctuations, and the lingering effects of the pandemic, all contributing to instability. With rising inflation, slow economic growth, and trade disruptions, it's crucial for all sectors to take immediate action to restore stability and promote growth.
@Dave_East
@Dave_East Ай бұрын
In particular, amid inflation, investors should exercise caution when it comes to their exposure and new purchases. It is only feasible to get such high yields during a recession with the guidance of a qualified specialist or reliable counsel.
@ChileyaMatildah
@ChileyaMatildah Ай бұрын
True, initially I wasn't quite impressed with my gains, opposed to my previous performances, I was doing so badly, figured I needed to diversify into better assets, I touched base with a portfolio-advisor and that same year, I pulled a net gain of 550k...that's like 7times more than I average on my own.
@DeborahMunsaka
@DeborahMunsaka Ай бұрын
How can I reach this adviser of yours? because I'm seeking for a more effective investment approach on my savings
@ChileyaMatildah
@ChileyaMatildah Ай бұрын
Stacy Lynn Staples" maintains an online presence that can be easily found through a simple search of her name on the internet.
@Lubumbemusongo
@Lubumbemusongo Ай бұрын
She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran a Google search on her name and came across her website… thank you for sharing
@corriemooney9812
@corriemooney9812 Ай бұрын
Far Right loses meaning when overused. It’s crying Wolf. These guys might be wolves.
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
They are. And crying wolf when there is one is just normal.
@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781
@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781 Ай бұрын
1:32
@corriemooney9812
@corriemooney9812 Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 You’re missing the point.
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
@@corriemooney9812 "youre missing the point" 🤡🤡🤡
@obligatoryusername7239
@obligatoryusername7239 Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 Have you read the story of the Boy who cried wolf? The point is even if this party is a wolf, the "defenders" have been whining about false wolves for so long that no one is going to believe them when they finally are right.
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist Ай бұрын
I´ve said this before, I´ll say it again, I hate how channels call this a "win". The point of proportional representation is that there is no overall winner. It´s more accurate to say the FPO is the single biggest party, but of course 70% of Austrians didn´t vote FPO. The FPO have no right to govern under Austrian law, it would be perfectly legal for the president to ask the OVP to lead the government formation. In my view and FPO-OVP coalition is the most likely outcome, with a "neutral" figure as Chancellor.
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
Legal yes, but it would be against precendent and in fact has happened only once in the second republic.
@tomc642
@tomc642 Ай бұрын
@@Minimmalmythicist Yes, and more than 70% did not vote for the other parties either.
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist Ай бұрын
@@tomc642 about 70% voted for pretty mainstream choices.
@tomc642
@tomc642 Ай бұрын
@@Minimmalmythicist What’s considered mainstream is a choice, not absolute.
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist Ай бұрын
@@tomc642 I don´t think mainstream is necessarily better, but Kickl is a foaming madman
@antoniusthe5th
@antoniusthe5th Ай бұрын
as someone who lives in austria, were cooked
@natedcarr6148
@natedcarr6148 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I should be concerned about or be encouraged by the rise of the right in Europe.
@eliasrjesburg8055
@eliasrjesburg8055 Ай бұрын
As an Austrian, Regardless of political views or opinions on this outcome, it's interesting to observe how things will develope over the next five years. Whilst the population is shifting to the right, the government is expected to remain center-left to left - similar to France, the United Kingdom, and possibly some German states. The question is how "painful" it would really be for the Blues to remain in opposition now...
@Adam-r2d3o
@Adam-r2d3o Ай бұрын
May europe wake up and realize the foolishness of progressive policies
@stammesbruder
@stammesbruder Ай бұрын
Integration is the issue, not migration. If you let people participate and don't treat them like second-class citizens, they will adapt. It is this foundational misunderstanding of the right-wing mindset that fumbles the entire crisis from "bad, but manageable" into "devastating and unfixable". A solution is staring right-wingers in their face, but they refuse to vote for it, even if the work is being done for them.
@Adam-r2d3o
@Adam-r2d3o Ай бұрын
@@stammesbruder America's treating their migrants better than their citizens right now, and it not working, especially when they refuse to learn the language and dozens more show up every week, integrations sounds nice, but seems unlikely to work in practice, Since they come illegally why would they wish to integrate? Who said they want to learn the language and learn to live as the native citizens do? Take a look at U.K France, and Germany, where certain areas law enforcement don't dare go down, these people clearly don't want to integrate, so what do you do about them?
@obligatoryusername7239
@obligatoryusername7239 Ай бұрын
@@stammesbruder No mate, sometimes it really is as simple as the guests being terrible no matter what the hosts do to accommodate them. The Hyksos and the Texians and even the modern R0m-@ are all proof of this.
@meinacco
@meinacco Ай бұрын
So disappointed he didn't even try pronouncing the umlaut Ö.
@nederlandsfatsoenkanaal.4842
@nederlandsfatsoenkanaal.4842 Ай бұрын
This is the best news this year. I hope they’ll win more than 51% next election!
@lukethevampire8970
@lukethevampire8970 Ай бұрын
Haha never, most austrians despise these far right lunatics!
@robinstevenson6690
@robinstevenson6690 Ай бұрын
The title of this video is misleading, IMO, since the far right party seems unlikely to be able to form an effective coalition government. Calling it a victory would be as misleading as calling the French left coalition "victorious" in the summer elections. At best, a pyrrhic victory.
@afjo972
@afjo972 Ай бұрын
Either democracy ends immigration or immigration ends democracy
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
all bro can yapp about all day is immigration😂😂😂
@andreasioannides4545
@andreasioannides4545 Ай бұрын
Unbiased my ass
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
Facts don't care about your feelings.
@mathewpt4478
@mathewpt4478 Ай бұрын
​@@chrisbeer5685oh yeah Typical leftist having a miserable life and things like this make you happy 🤣
@andreasioannides4545
@andreasioannides4545 Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 ok shlomo
@kingofcards9
@kingofcards9 Ай бұрын
​@@chrisbeer5685facts weren't spoken. Only falsehoods.
@hypotheticalaxolotl
@hypotheticalaxolotl Ай бұрын
@@kingofcards9 you can pretend anything you want if you just claim anyone disagreeing with you is lying with no evidence
@RandomHandle120
@RandomHandle120 Ай бұрын
Did this guy just call the Austrian Greens "center-left"? No wonder he thinks FPO is "far-righr"; he's completely clueless or flat out lying about everything.
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
Oh yes, radicalnideas like an Austria-wide public tranport pass or renaturation. That's totally the same as singing SS songs and calling for the end of constitutional human rights
@MaxiTB
@MaxiTB Ай бұрын
Yeah, they complete mix up Austrian terminology with English one ... here we would rightfully call a party that tries to get rid of Human rights a Neo-Nazi party, they just call that conservative in Britain/US. Completely different base level to what is normal in English speaking countries. In their scale NEOS, a libertarian party, would be basically a "socialist" party if you consider their policies.
@tomc642
@tomc642 Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 A song written in 1814 ? Calling for the end constitutional rights? Butt hurt?
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
@@tomc642 Who cares when it was written, the Swastika is millenia old. Fact is, both are used by Nazis as Symbols. Yes, Kickl has called for removing central parts of the Human Rights Convention from the Austrian constitution.
@inversion3492
@inversion3492 Ай бұрын
why do people who defend right populism so often say things like cry or butthurt in comments i read? trying to aggravate emotions to feel like a chad just makes you look like a karen, swaying away from a normal conversation
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 Ай бұрын
No Anschluss.
@fuerstmetternich1997
@fuerstmetternich1997 Ай бұрын
As an Austrian I am very happy. 😁
@igrex.
@igrex. Ай бұрын
when you speak Russian in a few years we'll se how happy you'll be 😁
@ISAACcookie
@ISAACcookie Ай бұрын
@@igrex. better than Arabic
@tigris5826
@tigris5826 Ай бұрын
People like you are the reason why im ashamed of being an Austrian. 😁
@fuerstmetternich1997
@fuerstmetternich1997 Ай бұрын
@@igrex. I speak Russian now. I prefer Russian to Arabic.
@shadow_king12344
@shadow_king12344 Ай бұрын
ich auch
@SilverWave64
@SilverWave64 Ай бұрын
"Far-right extremist" = Someone who wants Austria to remain Austrian.
@Youtuber-xs9cp
@Youtuber-xs9cp Ай бұрын
Far-right extremist = any one who disagrees with far left extremist
@SilverWave64
@SilverWave64 Ай бұрын
@menk4 So? You're acting like that's something bad. Why is Israel allowed to have that and we aren't?
@mrwho4755
@mrwho4755 Ай бұрын
​@@SilverWave64We weren't talking about if it's bad you explicitely said that they aren't far-right. The fact that you seem to equate far-right with bad means you probably have no confidence in your position. Why are you ashamed of calling yourself far-right? Own it. Wanting an ethnostate is far right, whether you think it's bad or not. And why are you downplaying it? The FPOe doesn't just stand against immigration, the endore nazi actions, they call themself fuehrer, why are you leaving all that out?
@boatymcboatface4120
@boatymcboatface4120 Ай бұрын
​@SilverWave64 Israel is also an Ethnostate, which shouldn't continue its oppressing politics. Israel is critcize by the entire UN and International Courts?!
@boatymcboatface4120
@boatymcboatface4120 Ай бұрын
Austria remain Austria. What is that even supposed to mean. Like as if immigrants are stealing your heritage. You are still living out your life?
@aldine_KSP
@aldine_KSP Ай бұрын
Another Huge win for europeans
@lightningstrike5024
@lightningstrike5024 Ай бұрын
most mentally stable fascist
@NicolasHaufe
@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын
​@@lightningstrike5024Most mentally stable socialist
@lightningstrike5024
@lightningstrike5024 Ай бұрын
@@NicolasHaufe mf said the greens of all people had blood on their hands. From what? you putting them under the guillotine?
@rettenthetetlen8759
@rettenthetetlen8759 Ай бұрын
@@lightningstrike5024 mentally challenged fake leftists
@NapoleanBlown-aparte
@NapoleanBlown-aparte Ай бұрын
Europeans being anyone you agree with? I'm irish and the far right party here (the national party) is clinically insane to the point where I'd rather leave for America then stay in ireland under a government led by them, the far right is terrible.
@_Azurael_
@_Azurael_ Ай бұрын
Center parties need to understand the current crisis NEEDS to be adressed or the people will keep voting in "extremes". Respect your "enemies", listen to them, and listen to the problems they are pointing to. You might dislike their proposed solution, but CLEARLY, they are talking about problems the public feels are important.
@kaisercommodus4977
@kaisercommodus4977 Ай бұрын
World Leaders being good at finances? Does brilliant know that you`re making fun of them?
@pkz420
@pkz420 Ай бұрын
"Far" right? Why is all right "Far right", but nothing on the left, no matter how extreme is "far left"? The channels bias is showing.
@ixian_technocrat
@ixian_technocrat Ай бұрын
THIS PARTY WAS FOUNDED BY LITERAL NAZIS FFS !
@lukasrentz3238
@lukasrentz3238 Ай бұрын
How do you define Far Left? Many confuse Social Democracy with Socialism-Communism and claim its far let, but its certainly not. We could discuss if German "Die Linke" is at least in parts far Left. But its not a noteworthy Party anymore.
@sciencefliestothemoon2305
@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Ай бұрын
The FPÖ is right of Reform. The party was founded by a Nazi, and is in constant contact with Nazis. Jeez some of them sang the SS hymn on a funeral a couple of days ago
@dongurudebro4579
@dongurudebro4579 Ай бұрын
Because the Parties that are far left didn't make it into parlament, simple as that. Theys only got ~3,5% between them instead.
@silverdoctor6298
@silverdoctor6298 Ай бұрын
SPÖ is social democratic at the beast, so centre-left. Meanwhile the "not far-right" members of FPÖ sang a nazi song
@BlueTigerReal
@BlueTigerReal Ай бұрын
Nur die FPÖ 💙
@paulstenberg3915
@paulstenberg3915 Ай бұрын
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! Grüße aus Deutschland. 💙🤝💙
@AduckButSpain
@AduckButSpain Ай бұрын
לך תזד יין יא תומך בנאו-נאצים
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
bot
@ekhartgeorgi4412
@ekhartgeorgi4412 Ай бұрын
3:00 Not knowing and not bothering to check how Ibiza is pronounced makes the video's content seem less well researched than it is...
@natansandle9284
@natansandle9284 Ай бұрын
Pretty difficult to pronounce everything correctly on a Europe-wide news show. Ibiza was like the least important thing they mispronounced here. It's not like they said any of their Ö-s correctly. They do habitually make actual factual errors though, so it's definitely something to look out for.
@patternwhisperer4048
@patternwhisperer4048 Ай бұрын
Not maybe, övp+spö would almost certainly include neos. Majority is too narrow otherwise, all it would take is a single disgruntled or sick MP
@JakobPossert
@JakobPossert Ай бұрын
misleading graphic in the beginning: only Volkspartei and Grüne were the governing coalition
@vivek-hp2jq
@vivek-hp2jq Ай бұрын
why all right is far right
@ATTP-YT
@ATTP-YT Ай бұрын
Because everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi, obviously
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
ÖVP is right. If you sing SS slogans among literally hundreds of similar incidents, you're far-right.
@vivek-hp2jq
@vivek-hp2jq Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 but SS were socialist
@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781
@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781 Ай бұрын
1:32
@stammesbruder
@stammesbruder Ай бұрын
@@chrisbeer5685 I'd argue the ÖVP has shifted towards the far-right over the past decade. One of their members openly stated that they are "like the FPÖ, but with actual solutions".
@dfdffdfdffd64
@dfdffdfdffd64 Ай бұрын
Auslander Raus
@abcdeabcde4877
@abcdeabcde4877 Ай бұрын
Based.
@muratunlu229
@muratunlu229 Ай бұрын
*Ausländer
@Fabian-hg1mw
@Fabian-hg1mw Ай бұрын
​@@abcdeabcde4877yes on reality lol
@The44th
@The44th Ай бұрын
cringe
@Victorvondoom9159
@Victorvondoom9159 Ай бұрын
Muslims out nobody has a problem with other eu citizens even if technically they are auslaenders
@kylerowsley
@kylerowsley Ай бұрын
1:31 Just wait until you find out what most adult german men between the ages 14-40 were doing between 1935 and 1945.
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
Not being SS generals or commiting treason.
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 Ай бұрын
Austrian resident here: the FPÖ have always been strong here, but additionally prior to this election, they also got some “lucky breaks” in the form of the abortive Islamist terror attack on the Taylor Swift gigs in Vienna, plus the flooding, which has severely affected infrastructure in several areas of the country, particularly Carinthia, where their vote surged. There will either be a cordon sanitaire coalition, comprising of several parties opposed to them, or they will go in with the ÖVP again, until the next corruption scandal, which dogs electoral politics here. Although given the ÖVP’s comments on scenario B, to the effect that one can’t govern with a conspiracy theory party, perhaps that option is less likely than it was.
@davedavids57
@davedavids57 Ай бұрын
Yer the FPÖ are a weird coalition of Carinthian anti Slovenes, Covid and vaccine deniers, Austrian Serbs, conspiracy theorists, racists and women who have been harassed by foreigners sometime in their lives. It's a weird party.
@reschi56
@reschi56 Ай бұрын
Their lead actually diminished a bit over the last few weeks. The flooding hurt them because it pushed the migration topic back in favor of climate change just before the election. The ÖVP got a lucky that they didn't tank harder, there was a time where they fought with the SPÖ for second place.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody Ай бұрын
But Carinthia specifically wasn't flooded? The floods affected everything north of the Alps, so mostly Lower Austria, Upper Austria and some parts of Styria. Apart from, of course, Bohemia, but that's not part of Austria these days.
@chrisbeer5685
@chrisbeer5685 Ай бұрын
How does a flood benefit the climate change denier party??
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 Ай бұрын
@@reschi56 But the continued delays in restoring stuff like drinking water, transport infrastructure in some parts of the country has driven some people to the extremes.
@denizergun6325
@denizergun6325 Ай бұрын
Aaah, leftist tears & cope, again.
@TheCommentor-
@TheCommentor- Ай бұрын
“You’re far right if you disagree with globalism, also we’re the anti establishment ones even tho we agree with it on everything except for Israel-Palestine”
@inversion3492
@inversion3492 Ай бұрын
clearly all people who aren't gigachad alphas must be locked away
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules Ай бұрын
Nasi
@Anon-nv7bp
@Anon-nv7bp Ай бұрын
@@inversion3492 nah they should just shut up and let other people fix the problems in Europe, caused by losers who think like you.
@eldrago19
@eldrago19 Ай бұрын
Sounds like a sane analysis of the situation: FPO came first, OVP isn't happy, coalitions possible between the FPO and OVP or OVP and SPO. OVP leader dislikes FPO leader.
@SaschaVIE
@SaschaVIE Ай бұрын
As an Austrian Citizen I am nothing less then deeply ashamed.
@gsiff4422
@gsiff4422 Ай бұрын
Yeah I’d be ashamed too, if over 70% of my country voted for their own destruction
@NoelNaggis
@NoelNaggis Ай бұрын
You guys realize that is EVERYONE is far right, no one is... Right?
@LordDim1
@LordDim1 Ай бұрын
The FPÖ was literally founded by ex-members of the Nazi party and SS officers
@dinozocker_lp1465
@dinozocker_lp1465 Ай бұрын
The ÖVP is definetly Right and not Centre Right like they present themself. Policy wise they are similar to the FPÖ, just more pro business and retorically they are a lot more moderate
@daemontargaryen5614
@daemontargaryen5614 Ай бұрын
Partys is right of ECR are definitely far right.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 Ай бұрын
Fortunately it's far from being everyone.
@myfairlady343
@myfairlady343 Ай бұрын
​@@dinozocker_lp1465come on stop talking nonesence övp is very much center. Under kurz not but under nehammer they are. They are pro EU pro Ukraine pro nato and quite center in the question of migration. How are they conparavlr to fpi
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