The Dragonslayers (Game of Thrones)

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@RmsOceanic
@RmsOceanic 3 жыл бұрын
Honourable mention should go to Brandon Snow, half-brother of King Torrhen Stark, for being totally willing to attempt to assassinate Aegon's dragons using weirwood arrows and their associated magic, before Torrhen decided to kneel instead.
@sirrolanddestark58
@sirrolanddestark58 3 жыл бұрын
I think BS would have killed them with the weirwood arrows!! Magic of the Old Gods.
@aengusog3415
@aengusog3415 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirrolanddestark58 nah the old Gods got nothing on the Valyrian gods
@danieltukua4527
@danieltukua4527 3 жыл бұрын
@@aengusog3415 "Fuck you and your Seven" - Some Stark probably
@shinobifirecracker6671
@shinobifirecracker6671 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a specific group at a specific time. There’s no ranking. Nor honorable mention to a group that existed.
@shinobifirecracker6671
@shinobifirecracker6671 3 жыл бұрын
“Totally willing” marks a large number of individuals at many various times. People who actually made attempts. Willing and staying put means nothing at all
@badlyrosenthal5149
@badlyrosenthal5149 3 жыл бұрын
i find that a completely fictional story having 3 tiers of truth to its own fairytales is just so interesting
@chunkyizanagisburden
@chunkyizanagisburden 3 жыл бұрын
Most stories about what essos do fall in to the latter categories it seems
@B3Smooth
@B3Smooth 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@danielvictor3262
@danielvictor3262 2 жыл бұрын
The same with Elder Scrolls only that it's in-universe scholars vs a bunch of scholars arguing whether the lore is historically accurate vs local townsfolk stories vs actual written sources by an (unreliable) subject
@adefay2811
@adefay2811 2 жыл бұрын
@@chunkyizanagisburden that’s because all stories from Essos are from 3rd person accounts. If the person was not from the time period they write about the further from the truth it is. If the maesters are involved they write with a lot of bias
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 3 жыл бұрын
I think there's a sad explanation for why Syrax landed to fight the mob on the ground. I think Dreamfyre, while mortally wounded, was still alive, partially buried and trapped by rubble. No doubt the mob was desperately trying to attack whatever area of Dreamfyre was exposed in fear of her getting fully loose. Syrax was probably trying to save her.
@blacgoat8916
@blacgoat8916 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Vhagar and Sunfrye killed Syrax.....
@callumtindal9856
@callumtindal9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacgoat8916 no
@TheMikeBailey18
@TheMikeBailey18 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacgoat8916 meyles and rheanys I believe
@dajointcf4803
@dajointcf4803 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacgoat8916 vhagar and sunfyre killed meyles, the dragon of rhaenyra's former mother in law princess rheanys but sunfyre was wounded pretty bad and vhagar fell on top of sunfyre and aegon II (rider of sunfyre) leaving his rider heavily wounded then a battle with moondancer left him even more injured eventually sunfyre died from the wounds.
@starlight0313
@starlight0313 Жыл бұрын
​@@blacgoat8916 a shame that didn't happen instead, then the blacks would have a competent ruler (Jacaerys) and one more giant dragon (100+ year old Meleys)
@juku4331
@juku4331 3 жыл бұрын
"power resides where men believe it resides" - Varys and dragons ain't no exception
@whycreate
@whycreate 3 жыл бұрын
No Night King or Euron today!
@MichaelMedici61W2
@MichaelMedici61W2 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Night King... smh. Those two don’t count anyway. One isn’t even in the real story and the other may as well have been named something else because he’s nothing like the book character. I was just talking about the NK right before I went on to see if there’s was any new video out and here you go. I was just saying how no one ever gets my joke when Brianne asks Arya after their sparring match “ Who taught you that?!?” I always say “ Henry Sturges!!” from Abraham Lincoln vampire Hunter in case you don’t get it either.
@SidtheCreativeKid
@SidtheCreativeKid 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMedici61W2 yea but the book Euron prolly could slay a dragon
@kaspersaldell
@kaspersaldell 3 жыл бұрын
Dragonslayer Looking-glass knight
@thesecretlibrary890
@thesecretlibrary890 3 жыл бұрын
You are very similar to *"Alt Shift X".* In fact, I reasonably confused you both guys due to your rudimentary pfp YT avatar you both have that is blue and because of your magnificently analytical A Song of Ice & Fire videos.
@magnusthered4973
@magnusthered4973 3 жыл бұрын
@@SidtheCreativeKid takes out priestess slits her throat throws her into the sea euron turns into Cthulhu eats dragon
@hahaimout1693
@hahaimout1693 3 жыл бұрын
Westerosi: Dragons can't be killed Some guy: *Laughs in Rivian*
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 3 жыл бұрын
Those are two separate franchises
@ionfer5335
@ionfer5335 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brandonhayhew and
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 3 жыл бұрын
@@ionfer5335 they don’t follow same themes but medieval fantasy yes but there is a human selfishness which is true
@tommasoantonelli06
@tommasoantonelli06 3 жыл бұрын
So what's your name? I'm asking it to make the discussion easier. My name is Geralt. From Rivia? Telling by the accent. From Rivia.
@BREAKocean
@BREAKocean 3 жыл бұрын
Lol hes not even from their
@mohdhassan7865
@mohdhassan7865 3 жыл бұрын
*"A man like tywin is born once in a thousand year "*
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 3 жыл бұрын
Why you praising this guy? remember what he did to Tyrion's wife. Had the guards rape her and told her not to say nothing. Had his father mistress walk naked in the street?.
@mohdhassan7865
@mohdhassan7865 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 sis be cool u r seeing only one side of this man , every man has a good side and bad , tywin is a strongest man in Westeros he returned legacy to his house , every one knows he was bad but do u see his skills on battle field , even Tyrion had a bad side and that u know what does he always do in brothels and that things Ned never did
@mohdhassan7865
@mohdhassan7865 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 even I know he is bad but do u see his skills and what he did to Tyrion , cozz he thinks Tyrion is not his child but aerys child
@mohdhassan7865
@mohdhassan7865 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 sis tywin did every thing for his family , do u like catelyn, there are many people who like her but did u observe what he did to jon
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohdhassan7865 Tyrion is slime bucket, also a rapist. in the books version. Tywin Lannister is calculated bastard also I hate men why step on anyone's who gets in way.
@theoryandfact5247
@theoryandfact5247 3 жыл бұрын
I always love watching your videos when they come out, very addicting. All this lore gives you basically infinite material for videos, keep the good stuff flowing!
@roosterman8601
@roosterman8601 3 жыл бұрын
Misread that as Doom Slayer. Still a pretty looking video.
@magnusthered4973
@magnusthered4973 3 жыл бұрын
There is only one doom slayer
@magnusthered4973
@magnusthered4973 3 жыл бұрын
And if he wanted every one would be dead in game of thrones
@shinobifirecracker6671
@shinobifirecracker6671 3 жыл бұрын
What is a doom slayer
@shinobifirecracker6671
@shinobifirecracker6671 3 жыл бұрын
Corniest name. Death slayer. End times slayer. Destruction slayer. Doom slayer. Redundant ass name
@shinobifirecracker6671
@shinobifirecracker6671 3 жыл бұрын
@@magnusthered4973 and no, just no
@FishBoneD14
@FishBoneD14 3 жыл бұрын
The dragonsbane also saw his mother eaten alive by a dragon beyond the trauma of the escape
@pac_jon
@pac_jon 3 жыл бұрын
there is this quote on The tales of Dunk and Egg "The Hedge Knight" "...Not that Dunk had ever seen a dragon. The old man had, though. Dunk had heard the story half a hundred times, how Ser Arlan had been just a little boy when his grandfather had taken him to King’s Landing, and how they’d seen the last dragon there the year before it died. She’d been a green female, small and stunted, her wings withered. None of her eggs had ever hatched. “Some say King Aegon poisoned her,” the old man would tell. “The third Aegon that would be, not King Daeron’s father, but the one they named Dragonbane, or Aegon the Unlucky. He was afraid of dragons, for he’d seen his uncle’s beast devour his own mother."
@pac_jon
@pac_jon 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to mention this quote...
@ninenine2438
@ninenine2438 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about Game of Thrones is there is so much history and lore that matter how many books and videos I see, I will never know everything
@NationalDevin
@NationalDevin 2 жыл бұрын
I think Serwyn's attempt COULD have worked, but it would heavily depend on the dragon. For example, if Urrax was prone to habits of enjoying looking in bodies of water, so he used his knowledge of the beast to formulate a plan. Where as Ser Swann didn't account for Syrax's behavior, just that this had worked in the past.
@d.m.collins1501
@d.m.collins1501 3 жыл бұрын
You know the death of Syrax, supposedly by a version of the Warrior "with a black blade made of smoke that turned to steel as he swung it?" Doesn't that smoky assassin sound a lot like one of them Lord of Light shadow babies? And just as Stannis Baratheon's shadow babies looked more than a bit like him, a "thirty foot" giant shadow baby axe-wielder would have been the "child" of a rather imposing warrior. Maybe Hugh the Hammer, or some other figure like him, had previously slept with a Red Priestess working at a pillowhouse, and in the process he impregnated her with his shadow baby without knowing it! If so, I don't know why the shadow baby would be up at the Dragonpit killing dragons that night, rather than siding WITH the dragons against all those Faith of the Seven types trying to snuff them out. But maybe Hugh's Red Priestess shadow baby mama, in anger (or excitement) at all the roasted people up at the Dragonpit that night, came up to see what all the fun was about and ended up going into R'hllor labor due to all the heat, unleashing her shadow baby right at the moment of truth. Due to her annoyance with the dragon for causing her to go into labor, the shadow baby would attack Syrax and smite him with his hammer that turned solid at the moment of striking, just as Stannis's shadow baby had done on Renly. Later, this smoky assassination by a darkened, towering, Hugh-like warrior us caused a seemingly implausible rumor to circulate later that the Warrior himself had manifested in the smoke!
@Pqndchannel
@Pqndchannel 3 жыл бұрын
serwyn can actually be a real figure in anquity from the age of heroes. There is plenty of evidence that dragons existed before the dawn, before valyria - so it is possible that once upon a time, dragons were commonplace in westeros. Also there are subtle hints that the god emperors of the great empire of dawn were actually dragonriders, from the fact that the shadowlanders were considered to teach the valyrians to tame the dragons as seen in the book "Dragons, Wyrms and Wyverns", so it is possible that the valyrians were descendents of the great empire who fled west to valyria after surviving a similar cataclysmic doom like event like the targareyns did (the dawn). Not only were the five walls bordering Yi Ti made of molten stone like Valyrian roads and cities but this black stone is also found in Hightower predating Valyria, so how could dragons melt the stone for such a thing if no dragonriders existed. Also maybe Hightowers and Daynes were descendents of these people and simply lost their dragons and the daynes have purple eyes despite being older than Valyria. Also Alicent Hightower produced white haired offspring with purple eyes despite the fact that Baratheons always had black hair even when reproducing with valyrians.
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
But the further back in time you go, the more primitive the weapons, which makes the prospect of any human killing one highly unlikely. It is clear that Martin was implying this was just a myth, just like all of the dragon slaying myths of our own world.
@stomper2888
@stomper2888 2 жыл бұрын
You both have good points in sure Martin would be proud
@bloodangel19
@bloodangel19 2 жыл бұрын
@@danpeterson114 but unlike weapons magic may have been stronger in the past.
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloodangel19 But if you read the books you would know that the "root of all magic" seemed to stem from the dragons themselves, and there is nothing in them about people killing dragons with magic. It probably wouldn't work on creatures of magic.
@bloodangel19
@bloodangel19 2 жыл бұрын
@@danpeterson114 isn't Jaquen (or however you spell that asshole's french ass sounding name) looking for a book on how to kill dragons? And i doubt the book talks about how to shoot em with a balista. So the existence of a text on how to kill dragons with magic is at least hinted at.
@NerfNutter
@NerfNutter 3 жыл бұрын
What about the archer who killed a dying Dragon out of mercy, or am I remembering that wrong?
@joshuaadams1178
@joshuaadams1178 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Tessarion was the dragons name, the blue queen. She was killed after the battle of tumbleton by an archer.
@NerfNutter
@NerfNutter 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaadams1178 Yes thank you, I couldn't think on the dragon and I gave my book to my sister so couldn't check. It was Daeron the darings Dragon if I recall.
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
@@NerfNutter The mercy killing of a helpless dragon already grievously wounded in battle with another dragon can hardly be considered a human dragon slayer, which is probably why it wasn't included i the video. But if the books were more realistic, ALL of the dragons would have been wearing armored chamfrons like medieval war horses to protect their vulnerable eyes.
@ardademir1661
@ardademir1661 2 жыл бұрын
@@danpeterson114 chamfrons cover the skull not the eyes. They did not cover the eyes of the horses in battle. That's the worst idea for armor.
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
@@ardademir1661 If you knew more about real Medieval armor, and seen all of the Chamfrons still in existence, you would know that many were made with small grates so arrows could not be shot into their eyes, just as some helmets for humans were similarly designed. Even the Romans 1000 years earlier had chamfrons with small grates over the horses eyes to protect them from arrow fire. You should do more research before making statements about something that you know nothing about.
@SapphireSolstice67
@SapphireSolstice67 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah or you could just get the dragon rider to “kinda forget” you were there, and kill a grown dragon that way
@lionhinder
@lionhinder 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think baelarion died from old age I think that injuries he sustained in Valyria had a lot to do with him dying
@ae9is603
@ae9is603 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine what he fought in the ruins of Valyria
@rishabhraviprasad6672
@rishabhraviprasad6672 3 жыл бұрын
We will probably never know
@ae9is603
@ae9is603 3 жыл бұрын
Still tho its scary to think what it could be
@rishabhraviprasad6672
@rishabhraviprasad6672 3 жыл бұрын
I think the doom released creatures like balrogs from the deep inside volcanoes
@rishabhraviprasad6672
@rishabhraviprasad6672 3 жыл бұрын
Like the dwarves of khazad Dum the valyrians dug to deep grredily
@Scryingmadman
@Scryingmadman 3 жыл бұрын
really didnt expect to see the looking glass knight here, good ol' blast from the past with that art.
@shergilly
@shergilly 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the looking glass knight from dark souls 2 lol
@thebroken5932
@thebroken5932 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I said😂😂
@brianfarris5676
@brianfarris5676 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say that as well lol
@definitelydaniel69420
@definitelydaniel69420 3 жыл бұрын
My thought!
@Danny-im9ek
@Danny-im9ek 3 жыл бұрын
Gave me a Ptsd attack 😩
@pizzaisminenoucanthaveit.2149
@pizzaisminenoucanthaveit.2149 3 жыл бұрын
👌
@nikasichinava3508
@nikasichinava3508 3 жыл бұрын
you should make a video about who should get some of the castles after got ending like dragonstone or dredfort it will be interesting also all kingslayes would be cool like jaime,roose bolton,stannises shadow,iron throne itself what killed maegor and etc
@Harldin
@Harldin 3 жыл бұрын
Personally i suspect no one will want Dragonstone, its on an Island and with the number of empty Castles on the Mainland i suspect now exists, why bother. Dreadfort will go to a younger child of one of Sansa’s most loyal subjects, Last Hearth is another one that may also be empty, don’t know if there is any Umbers left or the condition of the Castle.
@nikasichinava3508
@nikasichinava3508 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harldin i would love to see dragonstone given to davos, his loyalty was unmatched and he deserves castle like that. also there is horn hill,bear island, florents house in reach, twins(that should be destoyed,),who rules casterly rock while tyrion is in kings landing? i think i miss some too,there are lot of places left without ruler
@aysseralwan
@aysseralwan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harldin there are three or two Umbers that I know of. Greatjon Umber the head of the house is a captive from the Red Wedding but still alive and there is one Umber in Winterfell with Roose Bolton (but most likely only because he has to so that the captive Umber doesn't get executed) and on that one I'm not sure but there may be one with Stannis outside Winterfell
@Harldin
@Harldin 3 жыл бұрын
@@aysseralwan Yes in the Books but as i have very little faith left that we will ever see any more books, i can only go on the TV Show.
@aysseralwan
@aysseralwan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harldin lol no ending is vetter than the TV show ending because that was worse than most fanfiction in my opinion
@MichaelMedici61W2
@MichaelMedici61W2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again D for another awesome ASOIAF video. I appreciate the content you continue to keep giving us while we wait for this book and new show.
@bigoof8391
@bigoof8391 3 жыл бұрын
Westerosi: Dragons can't be killed Essosian: Laughs in Valryian
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 3 жыл бұрын
The big question is what messed up Balerion when he took Aerea to Valyrian!?!
@grimmywizard
@grimmywizard 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the creatures roaming the Valyria
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimmywizard The most logical thing would have been another large dragon. It is ridiculous to think there wouldn't still be wild dragons that were out of range when "The Doom" occurred. Martin confirms there were Wyverns, very much like dragons that lived in remote places.
@ArrakisHeir88
@ArrakisHeir88 2 жыл бұрын
It was obviously Cannibal.
@lilmos100
@lilmos100 2 жыл бұрын
@@danpeterson114 How convenient is it that all the surviving people of the doom and their dragons in Lys and Tyrosh got killed except the Targaryens.
@johnnyflinn2662
@johnnyflinn2662 2 жыл бұрын
newborn/adolescent fire wyrms
@gavinmyatt5589
@gavinmyatt5589 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that Guts from Berserk could do it.
@hahaimout1693
@hahaimout1693 3 жыл бұрын
*Insert Guts theme*
@jackbelmont4389
@jackbelmont4389 3 жыл бұрын
*forces starts playing*
@Fototheier
@Fototheier 3 жыл бұрын
I mean dragon slayer was designed to be something that could kill a dragon which is why it was named dragon slayer lol.
@RANDALCOMING
@RANDALCOMING 3 жыл бұрын
What COULDNT guts kill though
@fauzanabdulkahfi957
@fauzanabdulkahfi957 3 жыл бұрын
@@RANDALCOMING his nightmare
@marcoswilson1583
@marcoswilson1583 2 жыл бұрын
I know someone who slayed a dragon, Sir Knight King from Beyond the Wall. Slayer of dragon’s, but scared of John Snow and killed by a little girl.
@aditghifari5039
@aditghifari5039 3 жыл бұрын
Before Davos known as onion knight , he was Dragon slayer ?
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 3 жыл бұрын
the name is like Bran. Bran the Builder likely several people, Bran the Breaker.
@pastorTracy911
@pastorTracy911 3 жыл бұрын
Names are still just names. Some people also have the same names. 2 different people.
@attackofthejackolanterns8765
@attackofthejackolanterns8765 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, that’s how he lost his fingers. They got bitten off by a baby dragon
@bomcstoots1
@bomcstoots1 3 жыл бұрын
@@attackofthejackolanterns8765 XD
@rekoken2911
@rekoken2911 3 жыл бұрын
Weren't Valyrian dragons a lot weaker than what we perceived them as? Because from what I remember, it was mentioned that they were killed by throwing spears, arrows and water magic in the past but the battles where that happened were lost due to the sheer number of them flying around in the sky.
@WinterFrostx
@WinterFrostx 3 жыл бұрын
They were perhaps smaller dragons, like how small/young Drogon were hurt by throwing spears in the GoT TV show in the fighting pits.
@carrier2823
@carrier2823 2 жыл бұрын
Also seems likely that weapons and magics from valyria were probably more potent in those times, especially for killing dragons
@rekoken2911
@rekoken2911 2 жыл бұрын
@@carrier2823 or it may just be a case of fear. The mongols were only so powerful when enemy armies didn't know how to fight them properly. Once they did learn how to fight the mongols, well, ask Russia what happened.
@starlight0313
@starlight0313 Жыл бұрын
That was against a massive army of water magicians with only 3 dragons
@rekoken2911
@rekoken2911 Жыл бұрын
@Starspark Studios mfs really needed the entire Nile's worth of water to shoot down a bunch of flying lizards, that's sad
@joaovitorreisdasilva9573
@joaovitorreisdasilva9573 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how commoners of every culture hate dragons no matter what 🤨
@eumemo4814
@eumemo4814 3 жыл бұрын
Giant flying flamethrowers, I wouldn’t like much.
@joaovitorreisdasilva9573
@joaovitorreisdasilva9573 3 жыл бұрын
@@eumemo4814 Huh... It's you again, hello there, kinda neat to see you again lol
@eumemo4814
@eumemo4814 3 жыл бұрын
@@joaovitorreisdasilva9573 have we met before?
@joaovitorreisdasilva9573
@joaovitorreisdasilva9573 3 жыл бұрын
@@eumemo4814 Not really, but you replied to another of my comments in another video, it was something related to this crazy pet theory of mine that the Elder Things from Lovecraft nuked the Valyrian Freehold... lol
@apersononearth254
@apersononearth254 3 жыл бұрын
Not in Asia, hating dragons is a western thing
@ssjdeadpool
@ssjdeadpool 3 жыл бұрын
I was never sure if I'd heard the full story of how they stormed the dragon pit and killed the dragons, because that's always perplexed me. Especially when you say that an angry mob It wouldn't be jack shit to a dragon, and there were three in the pit, so thank you for going into detail about how it happened and clearing it up for me
@Felone007
@Felone007 3 жыл бұрын
Lore has it that the Dragon Pit was stormed by hundreds if not thousands of the people. The doomed dragons themselves were chained, gated or otherwise restricted of movement, so they only had fire to defend themselves, but their slayers had the numbers
@ssjdeadpool
@ssjdeadpool 3 жыл бұрын
@@Felone007 Yes. It was already explained in the video. That's why I thanked him for explaining it. You did not need to explain it again, because it has already been explained, which was the point of my original comment. 🤦‍♂️ As fuck.
@tarbeck7305
@tarbeck7305 3 жыл бұрын
It perplexed me too for a while. What I still don’t get is how Hobb slayed one dragon alone, but it took about a dozen people to kill the youngest one (Tyraxes)? My theory is that after the storming people didn’t want to admit to having killed the dragons but some people did just to spite the Targaryens. This would imply that Hobb survived and CLAIMED to have done it just like the other dozen. In reality it could’ve have taken many people to kill Shrykos but he was the only one brave enough to take credit
@ssjdeadpool
@ssjdeadpool 3 жыл бұрын
@@tarbeck7305 or Hobb is just built different idk🤷🏻‍♂️😂
@TheDrexxus
@TheDrexxus 2 жыл бұрын
You could say that a dragon's scales are like tenfold shields. Their teeth are akin to perhaps swords. One might even make the comparison of their claws being like spears. Under the right circumstances, it wouldn't be that far fetched to say their tail could be like a thunderbolt or their wings a hurricane. And of course everyone knows, their breath is death.
@nicmagtaan1132
@nicmagtaan1132 2 жыл бұрын
Haha nc
@thundererodinson1668
@thundererodinson1668 2 жыл бұрын
Okay Smaug 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣
@birinderwarraich1179
@birinderwarraich1179 2 жыл бұрын
And also they like to take dwarf kingdoms especially the kingdon under the mountain and its gold with them.
@cardd1577
@cardd1577 2 жыл бұрын
5:42 what based man
@riotchai4602
@riotchai4602 2 жыл бұрын
i love when people who learn the lore of GoT then procced to say that when somethings magic its not real in the stories despite there being magic in it
@iLLya_
@iLLya_ 2 жыл бұрын
Gigachad hob the wood cutter in my head cannon he killed both dragons and then went into the woods to gather logs
@ulloriaqjensen1924
@ulloriaqjensen1924 3 жыл бұрын
Dark souls 2 reference with the picture of the boss looking glass knight pretty cool ^_^
@juliohenrique8546
@juliohenrique8546 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Davos the Dragonslayer killed a Targaryen person and got the nickname because of the Targaryen sigil. I remember from the books that a squire who killed a Lannister lord got the nickname "Lionslayer".
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
That would make far more sense than a mere man killing an actual ASOIAF world dragon. But it could as easily been simply a "made up story". Everyone today has heard of Saint George the Dragon Slayer, but most people don't realize that there was no dragon at all in the original story of this Saint, and it was simply invented centuries later by a Catholic Bishop to make his book about saints more exciting. The "real" Saint George was simply a Roman soldier who became a Christian martyr.
@AuspexAstarte
@AuspexAstarte 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if that old man was some kind of shadow priest in disguise with his own reasons, beliefs or agenda for using the ten thousand-strong mob as a sacrifice for the summoning of that exact description, except instead of an actual knight, it was like what killed renly. A towering shadow that seemingly used a similarly massive sword in this case, much larger of a shadow in order easily eliminate the spewer of supernatural fire.
@PumpkinBreath
@PumpkinBreath 3 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, i love the content. Hopefully George provides you with more soon.
@Mynewestrandomz
@Mynewestrandomz 3 жыл бұрын
Now there is more lore for mirror knight in dark souls 2
@chrismedina54
@chrismedina54 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, not even dragin fire can stop the power of frenzied mob. They needed this mob during the battle of Winterfell.
@zantetsu9777
@zantetsu9777 2 жыл бұрын
Love Seeing Mirror Knight Here as a stand in for Serwyn!! DS2 4 Life!
@dyldobaggins4158
@dyldobaggins4158 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like with the amount of lore on dragonslayers that there's no way we won't see one in the books, don't see whoever it is surviving however unless it's a long range kill and even then it's still dangerous.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It's vague on how to kill dragons in ASOIAF. For instance in TWOIAF reference book it says that dragons do not have a soft underbelly. Then the next sentence it says there only vulnerable spot seems to be the eye. Yet another sentence says they can be brought down with "waves of arrows". Not Scorpion bolts but waves of regular arrows. So like much of GRRM's rules of lore the way to kill dragons varies.
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
He meant arrows fired in massed waves in hopes that at least one might hit the vulnerable eyes with luck. But even this was one of the dumbest things Martin ever said, because the idea of protecting a horse's eyes, (just like a man's) from arrow fire is with headgear that includes thick metal grates over the eyes to deflect arrows, ballista bolts, etc. There is no excuse for Martin to have overlooked this.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@danpeterson114 maybe waves of arrows to the wings?
@S.T.A.550
@S.T.A.550 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work.. on all your vids! Appreciate the effort/work you put into these!! SALUTE
@fanelemabaso2514
@fanelemabaso2514 3 жыл бұрын
Had Valerians not been greedy, they wouldve continued prospering. But we humans are just as greedy as they are destroying our environment. We will probably meet the same fate.
@badlyrosenthal5149
@badlyrosenthal5149 3 жыл бұрын
works for me. on any real note, our generations will be long gone before it becomes a serious problem. fuck em
@saymyname2417
@saymyname2417 3 жыл бұрын
That was hardly a matter of greed alone.
@lonestarwolfentertainment7184
@lonestarwolfentertainment7184 3 жыл бұрын
While it is true that Balerion was incredibly old (and probably nearing the end of his life anyway) that is not what killed him, it was injuries he had sustained in the Ruins of Valyria that put an end to him and that is scary because even in his old age the Black Dread was still very very powerful (and not to mention the size of a small Kaiju) so anything that can fatally injure him is something that is very worthy of Fear.
@theseventhsin2783
@theseventhsin2783 3 жыл бұрын
No it was old age
@Barryschitpeas42069
@Barryschitpeas42069 2 жыл бұрын
He broke his legs/ankles whenever he landed by the time of death, simply too big
@5000mahmud
@5000mahmud 2 жыл бұрын
betting he got something like heartworm from Valyria
@bro8686
@bro8686 2 жыл бұрын
@@theseventhsin2783 it is implied he died of old age due to being locked up in the dragon pits, denying him well being a dragon.
@kirstybrown1185
@kirstybrown1185 2 жыл бұрын
He lived for like 50 years after that. Which was like a quarter of his life. He was extremely injured and Aerea definitely died from it but it makes no sense that he lived for half a century after his “death blow” he died of old age, we know this because it’s the only thing that makes any logical sense.
@kellerbradberry1328
@kellerbradberry1328 2 жыл бұрын
looking glass knight from dark souls 2 woah
@tobluetoblack
@tobluetoblack 3 жыл бұрын
*Cough* *Cough* *Clears throat*. Inhale deeply and... FUS RO DAH
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons ASOIAF was so popular compared to most fantasy writing with dragons was because Martin knew enough about real Medieval technology that he rightly realized that people of that era would be unable to kill "large" dragons with the weaponry available at the time. Real Medieval people fully understood this as well, which is why virtually EVERY period depiction of St. George and the Dragon depicts the dragon much smaller than his horse, sometimes about the size of a goat! So to these real people who fought wolves and bears with medieval weapons, something like even a pony sized, flying, flame spewing dragon would have been incredibly dangerous, and would require no less than a "Saint" to do so! But as the years have gone by, and people became more and more ignorant of real human and animal capabilities, the dragons which people are able to slay in all of the crap video games and B fantasy novels, kept getting bigger and bigger. And accordingly, more and more, intelligent, thinking people dismiss so much fantasy writing, films and games as just so much adolescent minded rubbish. Ironically though, some of Martin's dumbest writing occurs when he does decide to "kill off" the relatively few dragons actually slain by humans. The mob's killing of the dragons in the Dragon Pits made no sense because the city was rife with unrest and with not enough guards to protect the Dragon Pit, the invaluable dragons would have been moved to the Red Keep, for after all, it might be the only way for the remaining "Royals" who owned them to make their escape. Having dragons killed by wounds to the eyes was ridiculous as well, because Martin should have known that in real Medieval times, the most valuable war horses were equipment with steel masks called chamfrons which often had grates which allowed them to see, but prevented spears and arrows to be shot in their eyes, the only vulnerable parts of their body according to Martin. So the Targaryens would have unquestionably did exactly the same thing to protect their dragons. It was also ridiculous to assume there still wouldn't be wild dragons in some remote places of that world still living long after the Targaryen's killed off nearly all of their own domesticated ones in their Civil War. Martin does imply this may be the case in his later writing, and acknowledges that remote areas in the South of the world are inhabited by large and very dragon-like, though untamable "Wyverns". With only four limbs instead of six like so many dragons of the fantasy genre, all of Martin's dragons could actually be considered wyverns.
@tdvwest9514
@tdvwest9514 2 жыл бұрын
Medieval horse did not have eye protection, those chamfrons protected only the skull of the horse. There were many cases where horses have been shot through the eye gaps of the chamfrons.
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
@@tdvwest9514 Obviously you haven't seen enough original chamfrons. Even some of the ones that go back to Roman times had full grills to protect the eyes from projectiles, and when you have a creature as valuable as a dragon, of course you are going to eliminate all possible ways it could be defeated, however remote.
@tdvwest9514
@tdvwest9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@danpeterson114 I guess so but as for your other points, how could they move the dragons. They built that giant ass building for the sole purpose of housing them so even if they new of the unrest there would probably be no where else to move them. They probably thought that they were well protected in that dome with the fear of dragons being enough to stop people from entering. There are times when tanks and heavy duty military equipment gets stolen by random civilians just because nobody would think that they would be stupid enough to try it.
@tdvwest9514
@tdvwest9514 2 жыл бұрын
As for the grate part, they probable were used but having a piece of metal with holes in it comprised its strength and might have occasionally failed at stopping arrows. which is why many later models didn't have them.
@danpeterson114
@danpeterson114 2 жыл бұрын
@@tdvwest9514 The whole point I'm making is the absolute FACT that real-life, Medieval and even Ancient technology developed headgear to protect the eyes of both men and horses from being shot in the eyes by arrows, so of course it would be used in a fantasy world with Medieval technology to protect the eyes of a creature as valuable as a dragon. This is one of GRRM's greateast failings in his writings -- like you, he was apparently ignorant of arrow deflecting visors and gratings to protect the vulnerable eyes of both man and beast..
@erickruckenberg8716
@erickruckenberg8716 2 жыл бұрын
Serwyn is actually a Westerosi Mythological Character Simply analyzing his name from the GoT Lore/Culture tells the truth of it: Serwyn > Ser Wyn = Ser is an anointed knights title and Wyn is just an alternate spelling of win. Whether it be slaying a dragon or saving a princess from giants, he’s a knight who wins in the tales.
@johnnyjay6959
@johnnyjay6959 2 жыл бұрын
But dragons or valirians could have been in Westeros early on or dragon riders bc HardHome was “nuked” or rather something happened that disappeared everyone there and destroyed the port town and nobody would settle there. Maybe I’m remembering wrong but I think I read somewhere that a fire or red cloud could be seen miles away.
@bergmansvea8739
@bergmansvea8739 2 жыл бұрын
*That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.*
@whitechocolate029
@whitechocolate029 2 жыл бұрын
I was very distracted once mirror knight popped up.
@alex52043
@alex52043 8 ай бұрын
So, Maester Pol whipped up a mob to destroy the dragons.
@nickthompson2376
@nickthompson2376 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a ton of stuff we still don’t have barely any info about. Blackfyre rebellions, Peake uprising, downfall of house Lothston, Summerhall??? I hope we do get all this info eventually . George got too big everyone wants a piece of him now. Good for him but shitty for us
@boiboi5402
@boiboi5402 2 жыл бұрын
Mirror knight from ds2 is such a good design
@evn556
@evn556 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta play that man, have beat every other FS game😅
@boiboi5402
@boiboi5402 2 жыл бұрын
@@evn556 I recommend scholar of the first sin over the original version of ds2
@michaelkean5969
@michaelkean5969 2 жыл бұрын
Dragons can't be killed Guts: i refer you to the name of my Big ass 10ft long Sword that's heavier than the Mountain.
@hoked2194
@hoked2194 2 жыл бұрын
His sword is literally called the Dragonslayer too. Dude is born to kill overpowered shit.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 2 жыл бұрын
1:15 woah woah woah, that’s the Looking Glass Knight from Dark Souls 2.
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 3 жыл бұрын
Best way kill a dragons is hidden scorpion to hit down like a missile launcher or artillery to hit a plane.
@apoorv_mc
@apoorv_mc 2 жыл бұрын
yup modern weapons can easily kill a dragon
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 2 жыл бұрын
@@apoorv_mc gunpowder was the death of cavalry
@RB-ei5fu
@RB-ei5fu 3 жыл бұрын
Always love the videos. Thanks!
@Segkee
@Segkee 2 жыл бұрын
there is a theory that the Cannibal is a westerosi dragon so maybe there were dragons pre-valyrian migration.
@magnumopus9631
@magnumopus9631 3 жыл бұрын
seems magic was leaving westros,and taking dragon magic with it,but your maybe right,mastors might of had a hand in it all
@dogukantopal4809
@dogukantopal4809 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the grey king? Father of Ironborn. He killed Naga the sea dragon.
@jeffreyhill1011
@jeffreyhill1011 3 жыл бұрын
Nevermind the fact that there weren't knights during the age of heroes.
@SpadaBelformaOfficial
@SpadaBelformaOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Hey wait a second... thats not Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, thats the Looking Glass Knight from Dark Souls 2! 1:21
@DrQuadmaster4000
@DrQuadmaster4000 3 жыл бұрын
Serwyn is literrally the Mirror Knight from Dark Souls 2
@sarugbyfan8134
@sarugbyfan8134 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how he uses the Witcher to show that ASOIAF isn’t a fairytale where a knight comes to slay the dragon..... when the Witcher is supposed to be the exact opposite of that 😂😂😂
@michaelkean5969
@michaelkean5969 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it's like if you used Berserk as an example of actions not having consequences.
@REL-420
@REL-420 2 жыл бұрын
The night king killed Viserion with ease, he should be here
@bro8686
@bro8686 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that the citadel is behind the decline in magic, preferring science in its stead, using unknown means(probably magic), the killing of the last dragon's( which is implied they were behind ) and the structures created by bran the builder that stop the crossing of magic to remove the influence of the gods ,to create a true age and rule of man by artificially making a dark age for the more mystical aspect of the world paralleling Christianity's crusades against science. Personally i like the idea that the last books will about magic vs science with the citadel being one of the main players.
@robspadre5519
@robspadre5519 2 жыл бұрын
"Not stop growthing "? Did I hear that right?!
@chinesesquidward
@chinesesquidward 2 жыл бұрын
Got a chemistry paper today I must watch this
@johnysnoww3831
@johnysnoww3831 3 жыл бұрын
why the dragons just wouldnt fly away when the volcano exploded
@evn556
@evn556 2 жыл бұрын
Man. I love your content!!!!
@chrisc767
@chrisc767 2 жыл бұрын
Would be an epic story if they had some dragonlord descendant from old Valeria that survived the doom and wanted to restore their family's honor by becoming the most powerfuk family in the world and due to their dragon bloodline they would be immune to the dragons fire and they would possess ancient magical armor and weapons from old Valeria and then being able to actually 1v1 a dragon ! Their mission overthrow the only other dragon bloodine descendants, the Targaryens
@Raximus3000
@Raximus3000 2 жыл бұрын
You have been watching too much Garo, lol.
@lukanxo5353
@lukanxo5353 2 жыл бұрын
Dragon could just step on him
@Erdemasen
@Erdemasen 3 жыл бұрын
The witcher 2 spoiler and I just started playing it ughhhh
@motorhh
@motorhh 3 жыл бұрын
gotta tell Jaime and Daven bout these boys
@javidseyadahmed6917
@javidseyadahmed6917 2 жыл бұрын
Im really thrilled to see these stories in the new House Of The Dragons show
@Kmaaq
@Kmaaq 3 жыл бұрын
Did the dude just put up a picture of the looking glass knight
@jobsmine
@jobsmine 2 жыл бұрын
I would put Bronn in here from season 7 of GOT. He’s had his spear right through drogon’s eye fr.
@laurelsilberman5705
@laurelsilberman5705 7 ай бұрын
Balerion died of fireworm parasites he picked up when he returned to Valerya with Aerea. Fight me.
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 2 жыл бұрын
People hate on dragons, but they're animals. Mystic, highly intelligent animals...but they're not monsters. (I know that's a hard pill to swallow, but being a certain species doesn't make them a monster.) I think that one handed 'shepherd' was a madman who just hated a bias towards the animals and bigoted hatred for them and their kin, manipulating the fear of the people for these animals. (But dragon or human...seeing that attack on the Dragonpit is gonna be hard to watch in House of the Dragon if/when it happens.) Not to mention the maesters idiotically trying to push away magic from the world when magic is/was needed to save/protect it.
@apoorv_mc
@apoorv_mc 2 жыл бұрын
the shepherd is the guy in home owners association who bans having pets in housing societies
@niggamancer6985
@niggamancer6985 2 жыл бұрын
You know something doesn't have to be a monster for a person to hate it Humans are animals as well but are also hated its Humans nature to hate .
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 2 жыл бұрын
@@niggamancer6985 Seems so.
@Gabriel-bu6ln
@Gabriel-bu6ln 2 жыл бұрын
" I think that one handed 'shepherd' was a madman who just hated a bias towards the animals and bigoted hatred for them and their kin, manipulating the fear of the people for these animals" Could it be because the dragon burned down his ENTIRE village and witnessed his own people burn to death? I wonder why he could possibly have some kind bias against them...
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gabriel-bu6ln People torture people, should we kill all people?
@aurkcoeghosh
@aurkcoeghosh 2 жыл бұрын
5:10 Those aren't Dornish fighters, they are Aielmen from The Wheel Of Time.
@MrDalugoga
@MrDalugoga 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody going to mention the Mirror Knight from Dark Souls 2 at 1:13?
@all9472
@all9472 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 I hope they show that in the house of the dragons show
@jacobvaldez4678
@jacobvaldez4678 3 жыл бұрын
Those are Aiel from Wheel of Time not dornish archers, a book series I cannot recommend enough if you like Song of Ice and Fire
@aysseralwan
@aysseralwan 3 жыл бұрын
You mean at 5:05ish? Yeah seems that you're right and I agree tho I'm only 6 books in and currently waiting for books 7-9 to come per mail. But the dornish have some similarities with the Aiel, both love the spear and live in a desert where water is a very valuable ressource, both are somewhat the outsiders in their world
@hahaimout1693
@hahaimout1693 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair I personally like Wot a lot more than GoT
@jacobvaldez4678
@jacobvaldez4678 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah around 5:05! I'm definitely more of a wheel of time fan but I love them both, I envy you Shadra'ak I'd love to be able to read them for the first time
@thecontrolkids
@thecontrolkids 3 жыл бұрын
5:12 isn't that Aiel from the the wheel of time not dornish. Also Aiel translates to "people of the dragon" which is cool.
@hussainraza8009
@hussainraza8009 2 жыл бұрын
1:25 is that the looking glass knight from dark souls 2?!
@Botchulism_asdf
@Botchulism_asdf 3 жыл бұрын
Lol the mirror knight
@Botchulism_asdf
@Botchulism_asdf 3 жыл бұрын
I mean glass
@marthvader14
@marthvader14 2 жыл бұрын
The mob managing to kill 5 dragons is just bs, Aegon defeated almost all of Westeros with 3
@raeesshah257
@raeesshah257 3 жыл бұрын
Bro please make a video on "The top 10 armies of westerous"
@period5304
@period5304 Жыл бұрын
*D O V A H K I I N*
@newdawngamingchannel
@newdawngamingchannel 2 жыл бұрын
That image you used for the dornish is actually from the wheel of time
@alaneiiro
@alaneiiro 3 жыл бұрын
poor dragons...
@evn556
@evn556 2 жыл бұрын
Doood I know😢😢
@ljubomirvelja9692
@ljubomirvelja9692 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video
@bomcstoots1
@bomcstoots1 3 жыл бұрын
IT'S NOT A FUCKING SCORPION. IT'S A BALLISTA!! DAMN PEOPLE
@janeshepard9549
@janeshepard9549 2 жыл бұрын
Dovahkin : Children, please
@shinobifirecracker6671
@shinobifirecracker6671 3 жыл бұрын
He chose against becoming Archmaester...innit? Pretty sure.
@hobo-acolyte4108
@hobo-acolyte4108 3 жыл бұрын
Serwyn, aka the coolest boss of ds2
@goryanadazaghal1206
@goryanadazaghal1206 3 жыл бұрын
Ok who would win The Lore Dragon Born from the Elder Scrolls Vs Balerion the Black dread
@akali2927
@akali2927 3 жыл бұрын
What if gun powder existed?
@hahaimout1693
@hahaimout1693 3 жыл бұрын
A bunch more of possibilities bombs, cannons, rifles. If you put the right guy at the front, the poor dragon is fucked
@cars81434
@cars81434 3 жыл бұрын
If your thinking like rifles and cannons then it’s possible to destroy the dragon. If your thinking gun powder use in war, then the era of Knights will end and being more chaos in battle. Not a equivalent to WW1 but somewhat there till they can mass produce the guns and canons. Castle walls won’t be safe now as it’s easy to break them.
@akali2927
@akali2927 3 жыл бұрын
@@cars81434 I'm actually curious what "magic" the Got universe would effect given enough time the world to matures being similar to ours.
@Barryschitpeas42069
@Barryschitpeas42069 2 жыл бұрын
Same logic: put guns on the dragon. The poor humans are fucked
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