Wicked Fast Router & Dremel Bit Storage Trays Using Dadoes Instead of Holes

[@Wintergatan]

OHH thats sweet, will make some of these. Thanks so much for sharing!!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Whoa, the one and only! At risk of being too forward, I badly want to know how you and This Old Tony handle your video production process. Particularly, the ones where you explain your designs, testing, etc. as you go about making things. (ex: how you came up with the snare sound and ended up with dry rice). If there's ever a chance for some sort of brief knowledge sharing, I'm all ears...figuratively speaking.

[@emostorm7]

Look it's that guy!

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

Martin, knowing how incredibly busy you are with the Marble Machine X project, let me know how many bits of each shank diameter, plus any collets and/or tool holders you may need to store, and I'll design and cut a custom organizer for you, and ship it to you!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

John Coloe I’m deeply offended that you didn’t offer this service to me...

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

@@KeithsTestGarage Sorry dude, you're still not a celebrity like Martin :-) Suggest you start making animated tools that also play music :-)

[@AriDiacou]

Physicist here (and nerd): Your glue explanation was very scientific. You had multiple instruments, a methodology, a theory, multiple prototypes, and an open data set. I'd say this puts your research quality in at least the top 50% of all scientific papers. Also, at 14 minutes, this video is around the same time it would take for me to read a paper that covered the same thing. Props for your editing job, I can see that it was agressive, but all the stuff I needed was in there - I especially loved "Take a screenshot, I'm not gonna read it off to you".

[@keirfarnum6811]

Ari Diacou BS! It’s all confirmation bias and no epistemological foundation! Just kidding. Being cheeky. 😉

[@DaveMillman]

Brilliant! Gonna carve your slots down all four sides of a 4x4 scrap, then hang it from a rafter near the router table. No shelf or wall space required! Thanks for the slot measurements.

[@davidsenatsky9412]

Not a DIY enthusiast, don't have a garage, not even a drill. Content is entertaining. Voice over soothing and interesting. Editing is good and on point. Just a touch of dry comedy and confidence. When you said "numbers" and gave the numbers, that's when I knew. Subbed.

[@jewdd1989]

The speed at which you could make these is just a dream!!! I wish you’d create more storage videos because I’ll watch! Someone that I think you think alike with is “Paw Paw’s Shop” seriously pls make more

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Stay tuned. I have more organizer-related ones in the lineup. Next one is probably about the Fluorescent to LED conversion, then I'll resume the Usability series which will inevitably have organization strategies that don't seem to be common.

[@talltimberswoodshop7552]

You deserve the Shop Tips and Tricks of the Year Award!

[@copperjakedaisy]

Thanks for the great idea, I literally have hundreds of ¼ impact driver bits. Rather than plywood I used ¾pvc which produced 0 tearout with ½ spacing between dados. I used a 13x13 units of America piece of material. Rather than the sled I used the fence set at ½inch then snuck up on the best fit for a ¼ bit. The best part of this is you can make four passes before you have to move your fence. With that one piece I was able to make enough for my impact driver case and for a French cleat shelf for my shop.Thanks again for the great idea

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Ahhhh 4 passes because you rotate the board each time? Brilliant.

[@craigturner2756]

Whoever invented the wheel back in the day must have felt like you did when you thought this one up. The simple solutions are always the best. Well done.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Yeah I imagine so. My wife actually recommended I do this video, telling me of how she remembered me running into the house gleaning with excitement when I made the prototypes a year before.

[@CarlStreet]

Brilliant idea -- well done -- good dialogue; great video and lighting; excellent sound; good pacing and editing -- very well done! Thank You

[@markewing6780]

So awesome! I have no idea how on earth somebody would give this video a thumbs down. I have come to the conclusion that those people either, a) accidentally stumbled on this video with no intentions of watching it, or, b) they don't innovate or use a Dremel or rotery tool of any kind. Me? I LOVE my Dremel collection and use all of my stuff as much as possible. Thank you for this amazing idea! We need more great ideas like this in the world. The part where you said "just bust out some of the columns and use that part as a tray" is when I realized this simple design was a MUST HAVE for guys like me. Fast too! Thank you!

[@johnconklin9039]

Great and simple solution! You deserve an award!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

I won an instructables coffee mug! #totallyworthit.

[@ToolShow]

This is genius! I put it in the lineup for our show this week. Thanks for posting!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Thanks! Subscribed. When is your show?

[@ToolShow]

Keith's Test Garage Every Friday at noon. 👍🏻

[@ctpctp]

Frick. En. Genius. You sir should at least be nominated for a Nobel Prize. Not joking.

[@craiglyons3975]

Great soundtrack. The little holder things are neat too.

[@lindsayriddick170]

Great concept. I will be copying. Have never seen your channel before but now subscribed and being notified.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Thanks for ringing the bell! I’m working on a pretty intense (maybe overkill?) dust collection video that I’m super excited about. Stay tuned and thanks for the sub and comment!

[@MsRobinCharest]

You must of thought about that for a long time. The good thing is you answered my question I been thinking about for a long time. Thank you. Great idea.

[@drmkiwi]

Ron sent me, and delighted he did. Thanks for the idea and your video - quirky and very enjoyable. All the best. Cheers, David.

[@frankligas2249]

Thanks for the video. This sort of sharing of solutions is why the EBEn's gave us the internet in the first place. Forget the glue and skip the wood. Take this to your local sheet plastic retailer and ask them about sheets of Delrin (Acetyl). Make one out of plastic and you can make a mold and sell these. Hope this helps. Keep up the good work.

[@davidclark5975]

I was thinking lexan or acrylic sheets, or black nylon for the cool factor.

[@jeffreygomez7360]

At first I didn’t like ur idea, but wen I saw u storing them on the shelves I thought that was really cool, n then all of a sudden ur deemed not storing idea made sense, worthy of admiration

[@dustin5181]

I don't own a single router/dremel bit, but I still really enjoyed the video. Well produced and edited with great pace and personality. Very well done, got me interested in something I never would have expected, through a quality video.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Dustin thanks!

[@madcacher1119]

Outstanding idea for bit storage - I will try this! Thank you for all the work to post this!!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@porthose2002]

I LOVE the way you put this video together. Instructive and Entertaining. Terrific job.

[@GunNut37086]

The most brilliant solutions seem to be the simplest. I love this idea and can't wait to try it.

[@AmplifyDIY]

This is a fantastic approach. I have several little blocks around the shop with holes drilled in them for bit storage, etc. I want to try this next.

[@kidcurry1957]

Genius! Awesome video! Hilarious audio! Well done sir! 😎

[@briansimard]

I am sold! Tomorrow morning! so sweet! I will have happy bits!

[@15drasedrase]

Great, great, great video!!! thank you so much!!! great technique, awesome, editing, music and voice quality was great. honestly i loved this thank you!

[@derRoteKampfflieger]

Very interesting. You might however be surprised at how small the contact patch of an automobile's tire is. Brilliant idea that I'll be using for my Dremel storage. Well done!

[@MarkFinnern]

Very well done. Thorough, great camera work, some humor ... Thanks!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Ha. Thanks! That makes me want to do a video of my current "production setup". It involves more rubber bands, pipe cleaners, and hot melt glue than others I've seen.

[@petergamble6318]

Thank you Keith -- you have actually saved my life

[@billr4283]

FANTASTIC….Thank you very much for helping ALL OF US!!!! Subscribed

[@wisdomfromthewoods3638]

YES, and with the shelf storage it is GOLD, thanks

[@blogidaho36]

Concise, Interesting, Entertaining, Humorous... Liked and Subscribed.

[@robertii8373]

Damn, this is my kinda craftsman, attention to detail & creative - plus nicely done video- 10/10

[@nilton61]

Excellent video. Creative, concise and enjoyable

[@beauw5630]

Thoroughly impressed! Video, idea, humor, creativeness...oh and you’re a millennial. Good job!

[@dale333]

This has just changed my life!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

I hope for the better!

[@TRUTHSKR448]

WOW! Amazing idea! Thank you. Now I need to go buy a Dado set. God Bless.

[@Lucco62]

I loved the video and the calculations as well is the music, well narrated too. Looking forward to more of your videos.

[@cbrSpeedster1]

I watched this video like four times now. It's cool...

[@andrewmoffett6342]

this guy should have more subscribers

[@kirkyd123]

Great idea! I've been a cabinet maker for 25 years and this beats all my solutions. I'll be making some soon.

[@pennykrueger5644]

Nice project. Great video work too. Thank you sir.

[@Sly_Wolf_1]

Loved the job and the sometimes funny voice over. So refreshing to have someone without an irritating over excited shrilling voice.

[@fredio54]

Gidday Keith, to cure the ripping chunks out issue and lessen the lamination mental stress, laminate up some end grain, or use a cheap end grain chopping board and laminate a piece of ply to the bottom, then cut your dedo slots below full end grain length and they'll be super stiff/strong well beyond what you need. Neat idea in general, and now you have another tweak to make to make them truly perfect. Collaboration at its finest. Enjoy :-)

[@fredio54]

Also, two tips for your tyre clamp system: 1) put something thick/stiff like steel plate on top, or some thick hardwood, then you will get less/none of the variance between centre of contact patch and those areas outside the tyre area. 2) Put a block or ramp about the same height before, drive up/onto that, then across smoothly onto your lamination, zero chance of it spitting boards out. Also, use a RWD vehicle so the torque is pushing you up onto it, rather than pulling it through under you. :-)

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Yeah those tips are really good.

[@radickd2]

Unfortunately I can only like this video once. Great idea and fits in the system of storage trays. Very smart!

[@jonlihou668]

Two thumbs up on idea, and three for video production value.... For the 1/4" bits you can make a wobble dado using your thin curf blade and a few strips of masking tape on opposite sides of the blade, under the saw flange. Bit more tear out perhaps, but not if the blade is sharp and you feed slowly enough. I know how the next half hour of my workday will be spent! Thanks!

[@velcroman11]

That is just the most clever thing I have ever see on You Tube.

[@floobertuber]

Best instructable I've seen in a couple of years. Great job, man!

[@johnparker2636]

Only one word for this - genius!!

[@treowayne]

I used this idea to make several trays for 1/8", 1/4", and 1/2" shank bits and I adapted the idea to hold onto the bases of 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2"-drive socket extensions. I made my trays out of scraps of dimensional lumber from the big-box store that had been sitting around my shop for a while. I have a couple of things to add. If using pieces of solid wood, make all the crosscut grooves first to reduce the amount of tearout and missing squares. I found the spacing in the video for the 1/8" and 1/4" holders to be a bit to small when using softwood. Keith's spacing figures obviously work well with quality plywood and probably work with hardwood as well. For those that want to customize the groove widths for bits and bobs of some other diameter, the groove widths are easy to figure out with this equation: Groove_width = diameter_of_object / sqrt(2) (maybe add a tenth of a mm or a couple thousandths of an inch for wiggle room)

[@NMranchhand]

Out-bloody-standing! I agree, I think it’s impossible to starve a glue joint unless you’re in a factory using an industrial press. Or you’re Matthias Wandel in your basement using some chopsticks from the local Chinese restaurant and a 2x4 you got outta the trash.

[@daveyjones7391]

Hey man, Reduce, Re-use, Recycle!

[@laurenceporter9354]

... jaw dropper ... on my way to my workshop ... thanks a mil ...

[@troyclayton]

I came here because you said router and wicked. I can confirm, this is wicked awesome.

[@trep53]

Thanks for showing your design work on the spacing. This is a smart solution I never liked using the Dremel kit box in the shop.

[@tomsayers4488]

So simple yet so brilliant. Thanks for sharing!

[@APlagueOnBothYourHouses]

I know what I'm building next weekend. It will be nice to finally be able to locate the Dremel bit I need from my massive pile lol. Thanks for the video 👍

[@zaffman]

Kewl idea!! Totally digging your ending music as well.

[@thegoodfight365]

Thanks. This is brilliant and the proof's in the pudding...or the fact that I or anyone i know has ever seen this before. Plus the additional bonus that with this nothing has a dedicated spot. So you can return a bit, disc or whatever ANYWHERE there's an opening. AWESOME JOB and thanks again for sharing it. 👍🏾

[@thegoodfight365]

@Roderick storey thanks for the correction.

[@SirWulfrick]

Lol. I also had made a cute little bit holder, then a second bigger one, and was only recently designing a step 3 - "the tray to rule them all". Glad I'm not the only one.

[@darylporter4290]

Very cool! I just spent an hour drilling holes in a block to hold my forstner bits. I'm binning it!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Holes are good too!

[@rogerk7194]

Fantastic idea. Thnx for sharing. I really like your "rubber clamps"

[@chuckjohnson4048]

I particularly like the concept of using dado cuts rather than drilling holes because when I drilled my bit holder board the bit and the hole were almost the same size and my non-moisture proofed shop rust locked the bits in the holes which were a tight fit anyway.

[@wilhelmtaylor9863]

Somebody probably already pointed this out so excuse the repeat post: Divide the shaft diameter by the square root of 2 → that will be the minimum kerf width. So 1/2" uses 3/8" cut, .25 uses 3/16" and so on. I have some 8mm router bits for an old European router which would use a kerf larger than (8/25.4)/√2 = .223", say 1/4"....and so on. This is a really good idea and I thank Keith for posting it.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

So are you saying you didn’t thoroughly read through the comments before double posting? :). Thanks for it though. A few weeks ago I actually went back through comments to try and find the equation but gave up. So, I screenshotted your reply to have it handy.

[@DIY3DTECHcom]

Love the idea! Also your use of graphics in the edit is very nice!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Hey thanks! I'm excited to see you as a subscriber....particularly because I have a few videos in the lineup about 3D printing in the workshop. As you're aware, 3D design & printing is a game changer!

[@Rusty_ok]

Brilliant idea. Now I can go buy more router bits.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Is there anything else I can help you organize?

[@EdieBabeMonster]

Awesome! Our brains seem to work similarly... love it.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Upload some videos!

[@TeeLeigh66]

First time viewer, I hit 'like' when I saw your rubber clamps. I subscribed when I heard the music over the ending montage. Well done video, with style!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Mistaria Spellsinger thanks! I’m still trying to find the right balance of music, when it helps and when it doesn’t.

[@rstiekema]

This was the trick I was looking for. Thanks!

[@franklopes100]

Brilliant solution.

[@shaneconner5659]

Great video, entertaining and educational and fun to watch!

[@timkilinc535]

Great video, really enjoyed it. Data driven while entertaining. Thanks

[@DfntlyNotaDog]

This is legitimately entertaining and great content. I can't believe you don't have more subscribers. Keep up the good work man.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

I’m fairly new on KZbin. A bunch of ideas up my sleeve but still trying to nail down a style and production strategy. Thanks for the comment.

[@thomaslamora1679]

Holy AWESOME project! Bitman... uh Batman. that is really cool and easy. I can't wait to give this a try.

[@2kidsnosleep]

Simplicity personified. Plus easier to align spacing than drilling holes. I need a lid though as I would dump those buggers over, repeatedly. On the to do list now👍🏻😎

[@g.fortin3228]

Wow.. space saving AWEsomeness !! Really like that !

[@LewkoCNC]

For that great Idea, you should get an Oscar!

[@simonsayegh7535]

Excellent idea and video. Thanks

[@LeslieHerr]

Thank you - this is exactly what I've been looking for

[@emostorm7]

Really great vid and idea and knowledge and videography and audio

[@Kosh42EFG]

So simply it's genius! Love it!

[@amdenis]

Great video. I’d seen it before, and I am so glad I found it again, as I need to organize my bits. One thing I recall from an old Fine Woodworking article is that if you glue both sides of a glue joint it is much stronger than gluing one side- no matter how much glue you use or how much clamping pressure is used (they did an extensive a fairly rigorous analysis). Gluing one side showed that the glue joint sometimes failed before the wood, but when gluing both sides the wood would always fail before the glue joints. They also compared glue types, I believe Tightbond 2/3 did best overall.

[@JustinShaedo]

I don't get this. If you apply glue to one side of join, then push it against the other side of the join, then you have glue on both sides of the join. It's impossible to only glue one side. What am I missing? Genuine question.

[@amdenis]

Justin F - the issue seems to be, that if you take the time to well cover both sides, or paint both the mortise and tenon with glue, or the dado and the tongue, etc that the coverage is both more complete and even and generally has had more time to tack to, and get tacky on, the surface. All of that appears to contribute to a statistically much stronger glue joint. For some joints, like two flat boards where just one side is painted with glue, I would assume that you could do something similar using a “rub joint” by over-gluing one side a bit, rubbing them together a little to spread the glue, pull them apart for a minute or two to allow some degree of tack and then just push them together and clamp. Possibly even without the tack, the rub joint could be about as strong if clamped well; but I’d just be guessing on that as I never read an article or watched a video on comparative testing of rub joints versus both sides explicitly glued ones, like has been done with single vs double-sided gluing.

[@JustinShaedo]

@@amdenis Thank you! Really appreciate the reply and knowledge. Sounds like getting 'some tack on' is important then? I've always tried to get things in contact and clamped ASAP. Might be I need to reconsider my approach...

[@ctrillo]

Don’t know if anyone else hit on this. Watched this amazing smart way of solving this problem, loved it. As usual though my son,18 walks in and ask why I’m so impressed. He doesn’t really like making, anything. Watches the second half and then walks out nonchalantly says “if he put the perpendicular dados on the other face, they’d be a lot stronger!” Kids. He’s right.

[@BeaulieuTodd]

I don’t get it.

[@atomicsmith]

Genius idea! Great video

[@MikeSydor]

Great project and excellent presentation of your design evolution.

[@terrialbright3927]

Awesome! That’s the solution I’m looking for!

[@TheJeroenl]

This video is so well made!

[@dennisseemann571]

you have just saved me a weekend! thank you!

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Great news!

[@MarkSchamel]

I'm a very new subscriber. I'm really enjoying all of your content. Thanks!

[@brentsmith7021]

Great video. Good job.

[@yummboy2]

Very clever. Thanks for sharing. Happy New Year!

[@kaliavarad]

Great video, I laughed so hard on the rubber clamp part. Well timed.

[@kennethlerman9664]

Nice job and a great idea. Instead of making an 1-1/2 inch slab from three 1/2 inch pieces of plywood, consider cutting strips an inch and a half high and standing them on edge. You then have to glue a dozen or so strips standing on edge. That glue up can be easily clamped. You no longer have to worry about the 1/2 inch by 1/2 inch blocks separating because the laminations are factory glued. I'll try making some like this when I get a chance.

[@Norwegianwoodworker]

The best idea input this month :) I will make this, but will try it with endgrain laminations. Thanks for the video.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

I’m eager to see how it turns out. That seems like the proper way to do it and may end up whipping one up sometime as well. (For the record, no more columns broke since making the ones in the video, but still, as a woodworker it would be cool to make ones that take advantage of the grain direction.)

[@willieboggs7799]

Wow!! Simpler the better

[@N5omn1ac]

thumbs up for a great video - 2nd thumbs up for the "rubber clamps" - love it

[@paisaconstructiondavid1964]

Sometimes I see a good idea and I did thank you. I appreciate the persistence and attention to detail great job. You are correct it is better to see all the bits at the same time.

[@stevesfascinations1516]

Good content, good narration, good editing, thumbs up and subscribed.

[@PFab]

I love the detail you put into your videos. Great work.

[@torstenhansen4308]

Excellent video and design, thanks for posting. I just found the perfect use for those 2x10 Ipe off cuts I have sitting around from a recent deck build.

[@KeithsTestGarage]

Those sound like nice cutoffs to have around for something like this. Enjoy!