Henryk Wieniawski - Greater than Paganini? Documentary.

A fragment of a documentary entitled 'Legend on strings. Henryk Wieniawski and International Competitions of his name', made by PTV (Poznań Television) on behalf of Henryk Wieniawski Musical Society in 2001.
Henryk Wieniawski's works used in the film:
1. Scherzo-Tarantella Op. 16 (Konstanty Andrzej Kulka - violin; Waldemar Malicki - piano)
2. Obertas Op. 19 no. 1 (Wanda Wiłkomirska - violin, Tadeusz Chmielewski - piano)
3. Polonaise in D Major Op. 4 (Maria Nowak - violin, Bogdana Janikowska - piano)
4. Caprice "Prelude" Op. 10 no. 6 (Anna Reszniak - violin)
5. Violin Concerto in D Minor Op. 22 (Bartłomiej Nizioł - violin, Poznań Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Jerzy Katlewicz)
www.wieniawski.pl

[@alterbridelius]

If we say that Liszt is Paganini of piano, then we should add that Wieniawski is Chopin of violin.

[@Piflaser]

No, Liszt had much more compositional substance than Paganini, Wieniawski hadmuch less than Chopin.

[@alterbridelius]

@@Piflaser Are you sure? Do you not only compare the possibilities of piano and violin? kzbin.info/www/bejne/oovKiHWtqLRle68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnSZhHuCjq2NrqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHTQZp-ApbWNgJY

[@barbaraj3663]

Co za talent polski geniusz ! Dziękuję za przybliżenie nam tej wspaniałej Postaci.

[@nicolopaganini7185]

No

[@WieniawskiSociety]

lol

[@Simon_A.]

Don't worry, Henryk. It is not the real Paganini (the real one's name is "Niccolò" Paganini) ... ;-D

[@BlackGypsyMusic]

Lmao uh oh

[@numerousattention103]

Paganini is the best.

[@osmarmayoral3996]

Each instrumentalist/composer left an imprint in the violin repertoire whether Paganini, Wieniawski, Vieuxtemps, Sarasate, Ysaye, Sauret, Dont, Joachim, Heifetz, yo name a few. From these, only Paganini, Wieniawski, Sauret & Dont produced their own Caprices or Etudes or Studies that have been used until present day for the development of a worthy violinist. As a side note, Wieniawski’s studies are just as difficult as Paganini’s, and you can quote me on it !!!

[@WieniawskiSociety]

She is is now a concertmaster of Sinfonia Baltica in Slupsk (Poland).

[@josephruvalcabarobles9703]

They both had a different style so they can't be compared or also because they lived in different time periods also they didn't play the same pieces and weren't recorded so u cant compare

[@stephenyatesacoustic]

Comparisons between Wieniawski and Paganini are of course inevitable but in truth the two men were wholly different as musicians and also moved in different circles that made different demands upon them as artists. Wieniawski's compositions do show perhaps a little better integration of melodic themes and virtuoso effects but he was able to build upon techniques and ideas pioneered by Paganini. When Paganini composed it was to showcase those techniques so of course they were employed more overtly. Wieniawski as a youth was able to travel to Paris and rub shoulders with the likes of Chopin whereas the young Paganini had to endure the Napoleonic wars which made travel almost impossible. Wieniawski does come across as the better composer of the two but he had far better opportunities at the start of his career. He would always have been a fine composer but he would not have been the violinist he was without the innovations in violin playing laid down by Paganini.

[@frizerist]

more important in paganini s concert the crowd went frenzy and that is not your point of view but is a fact desripted ...in wieniasky concert instead nothing really special happened

[@micoveliki8729]

@@frizerist yeah but people already experienced the frenzy of "the virtouoso" after Paganini came Liszt than Chopin and many others who were great preformers if there is one thing we can learn from history is people get bored easily . So even though Wieniawski showed better compositions and equally astonishig technique it was all already done some 30 -40.years vefore him..

[@desdemona222b]

Wonderful comparison of two geniuses!

[@Maxim777-m7v]

No one can better than paganini. he is best violinist and composer ever

[@WieniawskiSociety]

Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but no one of us has ever heard Paganini or Wieniawski playing violin. We only can assume how they played through written sources.

[@anonymousr1918]

Paganini is the Grandmaestro and Wienawaski is the Maestro not by far though. Paganini is the pride of Italy despite the obscurity of his talent, Paganini was a true genius. It would be preposterous to say that Wienawaski is better or worse than Paganini.

[@ombretenebre1463]

Wieniawski was Great, but each musician have your own style and can't be compared to others, all them was great musicians, but Paganini had developed a great technical boldness!

[@trevorford9079]

Skygg Synn - Yes, Paganini had technical boldness. He created and conquered inconceivable technical difficulties with absolute ease. But critics repeatedly observed that while his technical mastery was jaw-dropping, the creativity of his mind and the beauty of his expression were even more impressive.

[@cornel999]

nice little documentary. that's a heck of an effort touring all over Europe and Eastern US, with no planes, no cars, no interstate or autoban, etc. too bad he died before recording technology was available.

[@gspaulsson]

My grandfather studied at the Warsaw Conservatory with Mieczysław Michałowski, who was a student of Wieniawski's. Michałowski had one other student at the time - Bronisław Huberman, who became one of the top violinists of the 20th century. According to family lore, Michałowski declared that of the two of them, my grandfather was the more talented. Unfortunately, he decided that music was too unstable a career for a family man, started a business, which failed, and died in 1935, thus avoiding being killed by the Nazis.

[@musgrovebarry]

That was interesting and almost philosophical i.e it's much better and stable to keep with what your good at

[@itsjustnopinionok]

Paganini raised the bar that inspired all violinist who came after him to raise to. its what any person in any field strives to be at least be compaired to or said they have surpassed by those bold enough to say it. but all owe respect to the original. like Liszt with the piano. or bubba with smashing the beer can against his forehead. they raised the bar that all others look up to. 😎

[@RochestersGotTalentbyPaulRefic]

now a day every one sounds the same with there 6 string guitars, and every one is jealous of everyone,,,I play a 12 string and sounds so much better and keysboard with my toes at the same time, cant raise the bar cause every one is jeaous that I can do that

[@wardropper]

No point in comparing Paganini and Wieniawski. Their character cannot be separated from their performing ability and style. Paganini was a total egoist as well as a supernatural wizard with the violin. Wieniawski's technique might also have been astonishing, but his human nature seems to have been perfectly normal. It's rather like trying to compare Liszt and Chopin; you just can't. Their aims are so different.

[@johnblasiak607]

Who can truly understand genius, we only witness it if we are lucky enough to have been introduced to it by kindred souls who recognise greatness and then realise that passing it on is difficult.

[@НаргизСалихов]

Кого вы сравниваете? Они гении оба

[@SiegfriedDeniz]

I think they are both great so.......

[@nchanganimudenda518]

Paganini is and was the best than any other

[@violinhunter2]

This biography does not mention Wieniawski's Etudes, which are especially difficult. No contemporary / modern violinist can compare to him since no violinist nowadays can compose.

[@singhjackson2698]

But one thing you do have to realize is that Roman's compositions are decorations of the original songs, it's more like he adds cadenza to make it seems trickier. In contrast, Wieniawski's composition was all done by himself so he's is right at some point that "modern violinist can't compare to him since no violinist nowadays can compose." if you're comparing the originality of the song.

[@ZxAMobile]

Roman Kim is the goat.

[@billmcalpine]

Love the graphic art. Some great violinists have come from Poland - see Zbigniew Seifert.

[@jamesgodfrey5887]

We shouldn't only just keep playing the same composers over and over, lets make more music imagine waking up and hearing more NEW music like this!

[@MT-jb3pw]

Art, it is very subjective some say... But there is art that make an impact. For me Paganini made a Big Impact. That is why for me Paganini is the #1.

[@robertbrawley5048]

Paganini only composed one tune if polled on KZbin. Caprice 24. While Wienaisky composed 4 pieces that we hear on youtube. Rossini composed two tunes. Barber of Seville renamed multi times and William Tell

[@MT-jb3pw]

And your point is...?

[@robertbrawley5048]

@@MT-jb3pw art is very subjective

[@MT-jb3pw]

Still, in a world of subjective, what makes a difference is the impact that it can cause in to the world. ;)

[@3John-Bishop]

Who is the best rock bass player?

[@treatb09]

surely its not in the quantity of work but the quality.

[@123jozef]

"Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder" ... does that mean that if a man thinks his woman is the most beautiful woman in the world, that she really is? And how would anyone truly know?

[@ronwade5433]

Yes! Finally

[@johnmoumouris7342]

Paganini was one of the greatest virtuosi and an innovator first of all.I see completely ignorant people commenting... bullshit. But, have any of them played the Sauret cadenza (which is by far more difficult than the actual concerto, compositions and transcription by Ernst or Lipinski? Did any of them played the Wieniawski etudes? So, bottom line, Paganini is great because he introduced all the innovations for the virtuosi i have mentioned to expand the limits of violin technique.... but this doesn't make him greater as a player/virtuoso than Wieniawski, Sarasate, Sauret or Heifetz. But most people ONLY know Paganini and easily make poor judgments. As the same as for Tesla and Thomas Edison for example....

[@musgrovebarry]

I stand on the shoulders of those who came before. Sorry but Tesla and Thomas Edison were contemporaries tesla was a genius Edison a smart businessman with unscrewable practices

[@heisenberg6921]

Who's talking here about virtuosity???....virtuosity does nt make the Polish boy better than anyone !!!...and if you have difficulty playing him, then you should practice and not assume who's commenting here....how can you know who I am for example?...where do you play?...for how long?...who tells you know something about playing violino?...who are you finally?....

[@johnmoumouris7342]

Oh boy! with that comment I understand completely what you are...and maybe you had much quarantine and your nerves peak in red... and since you are asking I play 38 years, as a professional 25, I performed both Paganini and Wieniawski for my diploma and for concerts, that is who I am so fuck off....

[@heisenberg6921]

John Moumouris Ohh....so probably you were my alumni or student....nice.....and giving the fact that you asked me to fuck off , I reply in the same level to you....👍🏻

[@IrksomeRain]

Just a minor correction in the description you need to correct the concerto, its in d minor not major

[@WieniawskiSociety]

You're right, such a stupid mistake ;)

[@IrksomeRain]

Henryk Wieniawski yeah as I said, only a Minor mistake :)

[@Samlaren]

Do you know what happened to Maria Nowak? She was a real talent!

[@WieniawskiSociety]

She is is now a concertmaster of Sinfonia Baltica in Slupsk (Poland).

[@Samlaren]

Wow! Thanks :)

[@kooisengchng5283]

Why the need to be no:1? In Art, it is very subjective. What is meat to you is poison to somebody else.

[@Fectivan]

only the weak doesnt aim to be no1

[@IvyTeaRN]

@@Fectivan uhm...no

[@Fectivan]

@@IvyTeaRN ok u weak, dont get me wrong tho, im weak 2

[@IvyTeaRN]

@@Fectivan ohkay.....

[@heisenberg6921]

@@Fectivan ...don't say senseless imbecilities please...."Only the weak"...who are you??...of course we have to be strong to be the first ones, but is not a matter of aiming !....in music is a matter of willing for pleasure, and willing to sacrifice, not a simple as establishing a goal.

[@BlackGypsyMusic]

12:06 His daughter composed this? What is the name of this piece?

[@gabriellira8918]

Wieniawski etude caprices Op 10 no 6

[@firstlast1357]

Do Not compare apples and oranges. The polish are so preoccupied with their national identity, so a boy named Henrich who spends most of his life with other polish emigres like Mitzkevitch in Paris are still called patriots. While talking about him we constantly hear how Polish he was, on the other hand , when talking about Paganini we talk about his virtuosity.

[@WieniawskiSociety]

It is Henryk and Mickiewicz, spelling correctly. Why were they in Paris at the time? Please read about historical circumstances of Poland in 19th century. And we agree that you should not compare apples to oranges. It is just a documentary with a little bit pinching title :)

[@Piflaser]

My opinion is, that Paganini was the better composer. Who of them played better the "wretched wood case", I don't know. Wieniawski's music is more or less salon music, pure show pieces. Paganini was not a composer of the quality of Schubert or Beethoven, but in his time a good composer. The great violin composer at his time was Louis Spohr, who is not very known in our days. The great violin composer of Wieniawski's time was Vieuxtemps, who made a few salon pieces too, but with his violin concertos he made some great violin compositions of the rate of Berlioz' compositions. Here the best Wieniawski concerto recordings I know: Concerto No.1 Michael Rabin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6DWhKKQg6uLY7s Concerto No.2 Michael Rabin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYq6pHZma9GNpdk And for comparision a nowadays nearly unknown concerto of a contemporary on the level of Mendelssohn or Schumann: Alexei Lvov violin concerto A-minor in form of a vocal scene: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYq6pHZma9GNpdk with the great Sergei Stadler! Written also in form of a vocal scene is the No. 8 of Louis Spohr, but it is written in 1816, (the year of Beethoven's Opus 98 An die ferne Geliebte - Liederkreis and the time of the composition of Paganini's first violin concerto!): kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnK1o5-BodF_l5Y

[@rolandherrera506]

Which is the best day of the year ? I like the 157th day of the year

[@rebelangel8227]

Paganini was the first crazy skilled rock star type soloist.. everyone else was just a great musican..

[@farrelpermadi5471]

I think it's vivaldi

[@Kantor66]

First you have to listen to them and then you can compare...

[@gpm201]

From 12;12 to 13:05 who is she? and what is this wonderful piece?

[@weaccompany669]

Don't know performer. Piece is Wieniawski 'L’École moderne, Op.10' Etude No.6 'Prelude'

[@gpm201]

@@weaccompany669 Thank you!!!!!!

[@joanna6409]

Noooo, I love play Wieniawski

[@annawarner1014]

Clearly Henryk Wieniawski was tremendous violin player and composer. Unfortunately being Polish he was not as well know as Italian. Both were superstars.

[@lazyrrr2411]

Those Polaks sure can play ! Eat Your Heart Out , world ---

[@bigthey1827]

Name of the piece that begins at ~ 3:05?

[@ricardoalexisviolinvirtuos3789]

Polinesa

[@chrish5553]

I believe it is Wieniawski’s waltz-caprice

[@bigthey1827]

@@chrish5553 That's the one. Was driving me crazy I couldn't find it forever. Thanks! Wieniawski - Cappriccia Valse for anyone looking.

[@scronx]

Most impressive. Why did he pose for a photo with his hand inside his coat like Marx, Napoleon et al?

[@wardropper]

Probably cold...

[@scronx]

@@wardropper Wrong answer. They're all signaling their fealty to the "hidden hand" of subversive freemasonry, confident in the knowledge the sheeples of the world will never notice much less give a damn. Even a picture of the young Camille Saint-Saëns!

[@scronx]

@@scronchman0146 Bosh -- Lenin, Stalin and Marx weren't thinking any such things as they murdered scores of millions of East Europeans. See 'Masonic Handshakes And Hand In Coat Symbolism' here for the name of the signal and a picture of evil Pope Frankie Baby doing it.

[@МаринаВаркова-м3к]

Paganini e' unico!

[@eliaskylliainen6537]

How about ysaye

[@SinanAkkoyun]

That intro playing xD

[@cafenero1164]

where can i watch the whole doc?

[@WieniawskiSociety]

This is the whole doc. Unfortunately, there is no longer version.

[@sergeytkachenko4392]

Венявский был бы не согласен с таким сравнением.

[@MeowMixBro]

What song at 12:33

[@WieniawskiSociety]

Henryk Wieniawski - Caprice "Prelude" Op. 10 no. 6, Anna Reszniak - violin

i don't think so....

[@giofanduiz5461]

They are different... I prefer Paganinis music

[@dennisantony581]

me too only the one and only Paganini music

[@consuelosanchez7293]

paganini the best

[@nicolopaganini7185]

Grazie mille

[@valentinekizito661]

no one compares to Paganini

[@WieniawskiSociety]

How do you know? ;)

[@andreanicolas9363]

Because people like always only the best

[@rjlchristie]

Correction, every great violinist is compared to Paganini.

[@123jozef]

This is where the mistake lies: Music and the way you perceive it is entirely "subjective"... there is no possible way to determine who is ever "Best" ... you can compare the crowds that show up, the applause, record sales, whatever, but there is absolutely no way to tell someone that a particular player is "The best in the world" .... That is like Saying Eddie Van Halen is "Better" that Jimi Hendrix. Well, they both turned the corner on rock and roll, in that they were both great innovators. You could say that Yngwie Malmsteen is "the best" when in fact he is just extremely technical in his style... "creative' not so much. Leave the creativity for composers like Steve Vai. The same applies to any great musician in any field of music. This also applies to artists and artwork. The beauty and love is entirely in the eye or ear of the beholder. What people really need to try to comprehend is "Subjectivity".... and stop using the word "Genius" as it does not apply to music or art. Impressive, yes. Popular, yes. Renowned, yes. The "Best?".. no. Not even Paginini. Think of all of the artists and musicians who have had no desire to be exposed to the public eye. People would be confounded to listen to ten different Paginini's. You could come up with "most well-received" or "most popular" but never, ever, ever... the "Best" ...there is always someone perceived to be "Better"

[@davids2000]

There's a lot of objectivity in music and virtuosity, the same as a sprinter crossing the finish line first or last.

[@johnschlesinger2009]

The sheer number of concerts he gave beggars belief. Comparing his achievement as a composer with Chopin’s is scarcely justifiable, I think.

[@dfgqueen_0270]

Wieniawski was the best... after Paganini

[@eduardomacielmontes5867]

Everybody here talks about Paganini as if they has listened playing live... jejeje...!!!

[@robertbrawley5048]

That's the easiest way . Just repeat what critics said before that worked better before social media evolved. Now with message boards and comment sections it becomes recognized as tiresome. . Paganini was a creditable orchestral composer Whereas Wienaisky was a much better composer of the violin with orchestra. Who was the better entertainer. Why Paganini. I heard that somewhere before

[@alanhyt79]

We can clearly see the music Paganini wrote and hear modern violinists play it. Don't be willfully obtuse.

[@ana-mariaduran9051]

an adicted to violin andhistory keep on shautin g notes from mi own soul avanti this lenguage that seache steps do esencial ligang to the unic out celestial to divine

[@joshuahickerson6992]

Sounds like he got all of his moves from Paganini. It's like comparing Stevie Ray Vaughn to Jimi Hendrix. The creator and the imitation.

[@igorkhentov8183]

ВЕНЯВСКИЙ Как хорош был собой этот Генрик Венявский! Млели пани, паненки и русские дамы. Музыкант им дарил комплименты и ласки, Лишь когда не играл упражнения, гаммы, Не писал виртуозные пьесы, каприсы, Состязаясь с кумиром своим Паганини. Мимолётные связи - всего лишь капризы, И, поэтому, чтобы там ни говорили, Скрипка стала его самой пылкою страстью - Та, что сделал в Кремоне Джузеппе Гварнери. Генрик с детства в её был пленительной власти - Подарил самодержец Российской империи Вундеркинду за гений, ниспосланный Б-гом, За, палящую сердце, прекрасную музу. В душах Генрика предков жила синагога - Но вкусили родители плоть Иисуса, Что являлось нередким и горестным делом С, обожжённых кострами, времён Торквемады Для евреев. Как скрипка Венявского пела! Над Европой летели пассажи, рулады, Знатоков поражая великим искусством. Романтизма ещё не истаяла эра, И Венявский с высоким и трепетным чувством Утверждал её звуками дивного тембра. Он скончался в Москве и прожил крайне мало, Не отметив своё сорок пятое лето, Но Венявского Генрика солнце сияло Ослепляющим взоры божественным светом. Над кладбищем Варшавы парила «Легенда»* - Молвят, слышали в Гданьске и Бяла-Подляске. Впрочем, сам он являлся столетья легендой - Польский гений - скрипач - композитор Венявский. Прим. *знаменитая пьеса Генрика Венявского

[@teckyify]

A question nobody asked for and which doesn't make sense

[@edsoncavalcanti4033]

gret

[@pinsk94]

Karol Lipinski is the best!!! ;-)

[@foofoobear66]

Hell NO!!!!!

[@zaferteomete2619]

NO BUT SAME WAY

[@heisenberg6921]

Henryk Wieniawski is similar but.....sincerely....the vast majority, including me, will prefer paganini....Henryk Wieniawski is less diverse, less strong, less universal, less.....that is the fact !.

[@abelardoavendano5869]

Unsurpassed.

[@conorjames2298]

funny title NO

[@ronwade5433]

Paganini had great Hair and presentation style, he played like the Devil because he practiced hard! Wieniawski had a hard name.

[@katarzyna2478]

Wanda Wilkomirska the great violinist

[@jafarshaykhislamov9030]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@yandu5574]

M

[@blairmarten2755]

Tight hack

[@onv7374]

I prefer to play Wieniawski

[@andreanicolas9363]

Thats because ya cant play paganini

[@amyliu3521]

@@andreanicolas9363 lol

[@davidnajor2222]

No doubt he was a great virtuoso, as in those days the judges of such were far more critical than they are today. But to say, or even ask the question is both juvenile and ludicrous. Henryk never did command the staggering prices of his concert fares for the obvious reason he wasn't a unique performer. And neither did Henryk's compositions posses that spellbinding, shadowy, outline in which aside from his incredible virtuosity Paganini's works were known for. The difference is, one is a timeless legend, and the other is hardly even known.

[@erhert]

Alas the world of the classical music has started to compare with old masters like rock'n roll fans. And there is no end of all stupid arguments. Rock is suffering with who's the best guitarist ever. Please don't do that.

[@martig1000]

Monthy Python Question.

[@martig1000]

This is not Olympic games

[@foofoobear66]

The first is undoubtedly the best......Anyone imitating or simulating Paganini, is obviously second best...Without hesitation, a weaker version of the original master....

[@johnmoumouris7342]

Have you ever heard any Wieniawski compositions and you claim that he imitated Paganini? Or any "second best" like Sarasate, Sauret did they also imitated Paganini, seriously??

[@SongSwan]

I know this "great" music played by virtuoso's but I find it agonizing to listen to.

[@SongSwan]

@si james I know that you are not intelligent enough to know that music is a subjective experience.

[@Raelis963]

Not funny.

[@MullahSteinberg]

Ignorant comparison negative feedback and no subscription Bye

[@oleflogger6828]

Why, oh why, do people insist on comparing virtuosi who died before any of us were born, AND, were never recorded since no recording technology existed during their lifetimes? Therefore, it's obvious, isn't it? NO ONE alive during our lifetimes has EVER heard either Paganini or Wieniawski play. I find the arguments in this list of comments to be totally specious and stupid! I WILL agree with anyone who considers Heifetz the greatest of all time. I can't comment on Paganini or Wieniawski. The whole comparison exercise seems ludicrous to me.

[@peacepeace3971]

Ole Flogger Excuse me...

[@q9r8s7t6u5v4w3x2y1z0]

Paganini is not considered as a great composer. he is a virtuoso violinist

[@alexpate8626]

Wieniawski-pathos. Paganini-romanticized classical structures which don’t free the soul. More fireworks than passion

[@ThunderousThrasher]

No

[@AChainreyes]

No