Wild Bill Irwin Talks About The Untimely Passing of David Von Erich When They Were In Japan

[@jonathanturbide2232]

I love your podcasts, great job 👍

[@BookingTheTerritory]

Thanks Jonathan!

[@diablo666541]

I love listen to them at night b4 go to bed.podcast talking about old school wrestling better listen I g n watching all damb civil rights whinners.crying changing evrything they think is racist .ca in what they think is racist.ike as if they supposed decide for us. Wrestling only thing we got left. I sure ain't waste time with NFL .

[@HoustonIsImmortal]

This was my earliest memory of a big wrestling star dying during my childhood. 😢

[@SammyVideoPlex]

I love Wild Bill and his brother Big Scott Rip. I watched both of them in Canada International Championship wrestling

[@robintaylor485]

Funny how you can search KZbin daily for stuff that you’re really interested in and then once in a while a gem will pop up like this you’ve never seen before

[@blacquesjacques7239]

David Von Erich would have been a huge star and may have been able to save WCCW . He was a smart business man and didn't fear standing up to Fritz .

[@bobrobinson9916]

David Manning said on Ric flair prodcast that David was sick before he went to Japan Manning said that David was throwing up after matches talking about his stomach was hurting.

[@johnchristopherliscombe9849]

david should have never gone to japan.

[@Tornado1994]

David had Bulimia, which was causing him to have Stomach problems, but what I've read, David actually died from a Hydrocodone overdose.

[@bobrobinson9916]

Tornado1994 oh I've heard stories from David Manning and even wild bill Irwin on a shoot interview say that he was the last person to see David and that when he and bruiser Brody found him in his hotel room that he was laying in the same place and way that he last saw him and when the pharamtics came and they asked him and Brody to pick him up and put him on the floor that he had David arms and his head tited and food was coming up and Irwin said it wasn't drugs but as we both know there will be a lot of rumors of what really killed him and it will be a mystery forever.

[@johnchristopherliscombe9849]

the stupidity of david von erich is what killed him. drugs killed him

[@lmuriilo5803]

@@Tornado1994 He did, even Kerry Von Eric's daughter said to Steve Austin's prodcast that all the boys deaths was drug overdoses and suicides.... Why would Lacy lie? And she also said that Fritz von Eric beat and abused them boy's when they were younger witch lead to most of them having problems when they got older!

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

Last person David von Erich hung around was a heel Bill Irwin (aka devastation inc super destroyer #2 in wccw. David died 2/10/84. Vince Sr of WWF died 5/24/84 too.

[@christopheracosta7658]

The whole Von Erich's story is sad.

[@westdallasboy4454]

Chris that story is a total tragedy... From David all the way down to little Chris Von Erich. Just sad...

[@diablo666541]

not whole family Kevin still alive his boys Marshall and Ross are now in wrestling

[@danduncan4824]

One of the worst moments in wrestling wrestling wasn't the same after this we still miss you David

[@tommyjones7387]

David von erich was a good wrestler. That was a sad day in wrestling history.

[@keyopronin4134]

I would've loved too see David become world Heavyweight Champion also WCCW & the NWA merging.

[@Docstevebruhle]

David was my uncle....he married my aunt Trisha. He passed away when I was very young though. Thanks for sharing your story

[@jakejones2482]

There's so much mystery behind David and Kerry

[@Docstevebruhle]

@@jakejones2482 not really. I know what's on David's death certificate and id be more than happy to share with you his cause of death if you're interested. Kerry shot himself at his parents ranch

[@jakejones2482]

That's what I heard but the whole multiple suicides in the family thing. How is it that so many of the von Erich's died of suicide? I mean what was really going on there?

[@Docstevebruhle]

@@jakejones2482 from my understanding fritz pushed his kids really hard. After David died I think everyone started to unravel.

[@jakejones2482]

Wow yeah those pressures

[@dubbrown5594]

Irwin was a good wrestler

[@SteveSport_]

He was criminally underrated

[@tommyjones5316]

That was a sad day in wrestling history. Rip David von erich. The yellow rose of texas

[@jamesblair5971]

So very sad it doesn’t matter at this point what the true cause of death was David been with the good Lord now since 1984. The funeral was huge as was the graveside service so many people at both. Gone but never forgotten! I am glad Kevin is doing good. It is fun to see Ross and Marshall carrying on the Von Erich wrestling legacy.

[@mab1959]

Lacey, too!

[@ManMonkey600]

I know a lot of people say it was drugs and Brody cleaned up the crime scene. But every time Bill Irwin talks about this story it is pretty much exactly the same story every time. A lot of times when someone is lying about the story will change a little every time you tell it.

[@Tornado1994]

David had Bulimia.

[@tommyjones7387]

He didn't die from drugs. His mother and brother told him to go to the doctor. David was having stomach problems.

[@maturanita]

@@Tornado1994 yup. He was bulimic

[@Tornado1994]

@@maturanita Correct. Fritz kept it secret.

[@maturanita]

@@Tornado1994 Kevin too. Kevin and David were close as thieves and that is why Kevin had that terrible feeling that David wasn’t going to return from Japan: he knew David’s bulimia was catching up with him and he was not getting the medical attention his condition demanded. It is so sad, for DVE was a true once in a lifetime talent.

[@weslockman5049]

I heard this story lots of times from Wild Bill but he told me he purged a lot the night before eight left the room came back ate some more and found out they also had an inflamed intestine

[@maturanita]

@Wes Lockman it has been said that David suffered from bulimia.

[@tomh1593]

Bill has always told the story the same way so I believe him.

[@tomh1593]

People assume it was drugs because of pills he may have been taking but autopsy reports don't lie.

[@chrischar9428]

Yes they do

[@jayrowell2468]

It's very easy to talk shit on social media, especially when you have no idea how the business itself actually works. The pressure on these guys, even from family is crushing. The schedules suck, the constant travel sucks, kills marriages, kills confidence and health. It's actually very surprising that more wrestlers haven't died or killed themselves than the ones we already know about. It's a lonely life and most end up both broken and dead broke in the end. Very very few live a good fullfilling life after their last curtain call.

[@keyopronin4134]

Damn, your Statement is Gospel.

[@jayrowell2468]

Keyop Ronin I knew some of the Von Ericks back in the day and I've met many more over the years. When you listen to them talk you hear about how much they hate the life itself, but can never get enough of the popping of crowds and adulation that comes with it. Most suffer from alcohol, drugs a combination of both as well as deep depression. It's a drug to them and it's truly sad

[@keyopronin4134]

@@jayrowell2468 Damn, when you're that close you can see & feel the hurt in their eyes when you talk too them, much respect to you Jay Rowell.

[@jayrowell2468]

Thank you my friend. God bless

[@davidscott7626]

David Von Erich was great. Would have been World Champion no question about it Fritz or no Fritz he was that damn good.

[@maturanita]

@David Scott indeed he was. He was a once in a lifetime talent.

[@westyraviz]

His death sounds like how Elvis went-and the futile efforts to resuscitate. If David had a roommate in that hotel room, he would have stood a chance.

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

David von erich was NWA Texas hw champion & NWA United national hw champion ( ajpw) ( he defeated freebird Michael Hayes (c) on Friday 2/3/84 Dallas, Texas The sportatorium never shown on tv 📺 David was a double champion and died 2/10/84,

[@coda700]

You would think that his story of David eating two meals contradict him dying from the enteritis as claimed by his family.

[@rahowherox1177]

coda700 a shit load of pain killers may have made eating possible.

[@coda700]

rahowhero X that's true

[@frankiepalmisano4272]

The coroner claimed enteritis!!!!!!

[@DIESEL0759]

@@frankiepalmisano4272 You cannot "detect" bulimia in an autopsy. The immediate cause of death would have been an intestinal inflammation, as a result of bulimia. It's totally possible that he had bulimia. Olympic wrestlers and MMA fighters often struggle to make weight, why wouldn't David to satisfy himself, then vomit to keep his look? It's feasible.

[@Tornado1994]

@@DIESEL0759 Correct. David had Bulimia.

[@brooklynnicole9236]

suffocated on his on vomit while passed out

[@susanhickingbottom3799]

Still breaks my heart .

[@michaeldunbar4951]

Thanks for the video,it was great to hear from wild bill irwin.

[@JackBarrett7]

Its funny, these interviewers all sound so young, not just by the high voices, but that things like drinking whiskey straight seems unreal. I heard one where someone was recounting a fight backstage, and the kid doing the interview asked in disbelief "So, you actually saw a guy get punched in the face!? No gloves, or no kayfabe?! WOW that must have been crazy". Its kinda endearing, lol. I mean, hell, they'll grow up and see a lot more, and its not a negative thing at all that they havent lived much, but the contrast is amusing. Tales of the road, and partying and fights to a kid whose voice just broke.

[@DIESEL0759]

In all fairness, whisky straight hours before a match isn't exactly the best decision...

[@blueringoffire]

Was just listening to that sentence while reading your comment…. Totally Agree👍

[@Ditka-89]

Why was he a bulimic? He had an amazing physique. Usually bulimics purge because they have body dysmorphia. Seems like he had everything. I wonder why he did it. So sad

[@ButWhatIfItIs]

Guys have image issues too, to which they get nothing but mockery and shaming for rather than a modicum of support or reassurance, and that's now, a bulimic (and straight... only mentioning it since I ain't and there's different "rules") man in the 80s wasn't going to ellicit any different a response. Its not surprising *if* its true. Only reason I stopped doing it was when it became apparent its a waste of time. You can only lose so many calories you've taken in through purging or pills. It amounts to about a third. Oh and forget about keeping your pearly white teeth when you're living that kind of lifestyle too. Ain't worth it. But it's an illness, otherwise why would people willingly delude themselves? He might've been looking in the mirror and seeing a complete heffer. Maybe obsessive over jeopardising his perfect image by even half an inch on his waistline. Who knows.

[@chrischar9428]

He wasnt

[@Ditka-89]

@@chrischar9428 who says

[@chrischar9428]

@@Ditka-89 the only time I've heard that nonsense is 30 years after his death online

[@larrystevens8037]

Glad to hear the truth!

[@rict5878]

We will never ever know the true story behind the dynasty that was the Von Erich family.

[@clayp7284]

So when will Kevin finally stop pushing the family lie? It was accidental

[@lmuriilo5803]

Never... Kevin still sticks up for his father that is dead saying that he was a good man and Fritz was far from it.... It's bc of Fritz all them boy's killed themselves and had drug problems from all the abuse they suffered from the hands of him!

[@desseyskinner9943]

@@lmuriilo5803 I agree that Fritz was most likely to blame for all of the boys having drug problems that led up to the suicides but really, that's between the Von Erich/Adkisson Family and God. I commend Kevin for not speaking out against his father. We're supposed to honor our Parents aren't we?????

[@mrperfectedkelly]

Been said on many shoot interviews that Brody cleaned the room out of drugs and pills so the memory of david wouldn't be tarnished etc

[@Tornado1994]

So David had Bulimia, Huh? From what I specifically recall reading about, David died from a Hydrocodone overdose.

[@jimmyv.495]

Brody just wanted the dope for himself!

[@erickaufmann4839]

bullshit,you moron

[@DIESEL0759]

Unfortunately, Brody's actions had the opposite effect.

[@desseyskinner9943]

@@jimmyv.495 Wow!!!!! That was a stupid damn thing to say you freaking asshole. Maybe you should think about what you're saying before the whole world hears exactly how stupid you really are!!!!! You big dumbass!!!!!

[@timesareachangintimesareac2580]

Every version of this story is either slightly or completely different.. which story is the closest? RIP Von Erich family.

[@samlott99]

Most big stories like this do have multiple versions. People's memories aren't accurate, or some of what they say is second hand. My understanding is David was caught up in the pain pill crowd of wrestlers. Lots of them were, as they were always in some kind of pain. Totally understandable in that line of work. David took moderate amounts of Qualudes back then, and washed them down with whiskey. In Japan, he couldn't find any whiskey, and chugged a bunch of Sake that night with his Quaaludes. It triggered a gastric problem. Also, David wasn't found dead the very next morning. He had laid there dead for a couple of days, and swelled up to 3 times his size. It's easy to tell that Irwin is bullshitting his way thru a lot of this, making up a bunch of it.

[@diablo666541]

@@samlott99 qualudes were illegal in 80s. At one time they level until mid 70s

[@samlott99]

@@diablo666541 You're preaching to the choir. I used to sell 747s in Austin, Waco, and Fort Worth back in 80, 81,82. They were so easy to get at the border. I could get a 1/2 gallon milk jug full of ludes, valiums, and placydils dirt cheap. Being a popular wrestler was like being a rock star for David. He had people bringing him all kinds of candy to take on his overseas trips.

[@tomwigal8856]

It was very likely overdose of painkillers and probably Crown Royal

[@bigroy38]

Don't call Bill "Chauncey"!

[@battlestarmarc]

David von erich was great. What was the chauncey thing with wild bill about.

[@robertrodriguez787]

I always wondered .if the Von Erichs had they lived if they would have ever gone to the WWF . I know Kerry wrestled in the WWF as the Texas Tornado but I'm talking about the rest of them David , Kevin and maybe Mike

[@chadmiller7876]

Who knows? Had he lived David could have been The Undertaker instead of Mark lol. Im sure that David would have eventually made it to WWF. He was so talented that Vince would have threw the cash at him.

[@mab1959]

Kevin is still alive.

[@mab1959]

@@chadmiller7876 Good chance that David, who had the business sense, could have changed the course of everything and been a big competitor for Vince.

[@bradlott9876]

Mike was a douche

[@aldm1967]

Crazy!

[@83reggieT]

I'm pretty sure it was pills and booze that did him in like so many wrestlers after. It may have caused some emeritus but that's not something that's usually going to kill someone. You add 20 norcos half bottle jack and a 12 beers it might trigger something.

[@larrystevens8037]

Are you a doctor or medical examiner? You don't know shit

[@Spurs-bx8pd]

Too bad David von erich never wrestled Barry Windham..those matches would have been classic

[@leonphelps1901]

Spurs 5150 they did in Florida when David was a heel

[@Spurs-bx8pd]

@@leonphelps1901 No..Any Video?.

[@holidayrap]

@@Spurs-bx8pd Type in "David Von Erich in Florida"

[@abbdabs67]

what a shame......rip david

[@NateLinehan666]

So is Goo Goo 80s or wrestling slang for drugs?

[@robertbishop5357]

Unfortunately once a person it's too late. Very sad for wrestlers like David and Magnum TA. Had David not passed and Magnum not been in a career ending accident there's no telling where these 2 would be today. Where wrestling would be today.

[@DIESEL0759]

@Crown Commando Right. Too late if you're a person. You need to be an alien. Or some kind of animal. Or maybe an alien animal.

[@tommyjones7387]

I agree with you.

[@BradleyVolk3]

So he was bulimic now? Wtf?

[@Tornado1994]

Yup.

[@clayp7284]

So David basically pulled a Hendrix. No judgments here. Time for Kevin to give us the truth from his own mouth

[@wrestlinghistorian4064]

Never gonna happen it seems, unless it is a deathbed confession type of things. Still to this day, Kevin will acknowledge that the other Von Erich boys had drug problems, but not he and Dave. I've never ever heard him once acknowledge that he and Dave even touched a recreational drug. The closest he will ever come is saying that Dave popped pain pills and drank beers because of his stomach, but almost every wrestler from that period of time have confirmed that ALL the Von Erich's were heavily into drugs. I honestly don't know why, because no one cares if they did or didn't at this point. Hell everyone was into drugs in the 80's. The only thing I can honestly guess is that Dave's death was so painful to Kevin, and he has so much guilt over it, that it is easier to pretend it was something other than what it was, even after all of these years. That he died from something totally out of their control, rather than from the lifestyle choices he and Dave made. The alternative is that Kevin is completely nuts like his father and is still "working" for some strange reason, even though is no reason left to work. I've met Kevin several times, and he comes off as a nice guy, so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Occam's razor would suggest it's coping mechanism for him.

[@chrisconley8583]

clayp72 what difference will it make?? The guy’s family died in shitty ways (whether it was their own doing...or not). It’s not going to bring any of them back. Kevin has to carry the burden of being the only one to live through it all. For that reason he doesn’t owe anyone an explanation.

[@steadyc9277]

Oh God how awful...

[@MrAac1984]

That’s a new story! So David Von Erich was a purger now?

[@Tornado1994]

Yes. He was Bulimic.

[@donovandarby9648]

That curse had to F up the Von Erichs but that flippity floppity is thriving.

[@mab1959]

“Curse?!?” 🙄

[@greedyd5524]

Drugs.

[@larrystevens8037]

Asshole

[@larrystevens8037]

It makes me sick when people say David overdosed and Brody threw the drugs away

[@lmuriilo5803]

He did stupid! David Overdosed but the father chose to cover it up bc they were looked up to in the public eye! Brody threw away the pill bottles..... David mixed his medications and took to many.... Another thing is David had just lost his baby girl to Sid's

[@arlopear7136]

@@lmuriilo5803 David lost his baby in 1978. Not saying he wasn't broken up about for the rest of his life but if he were to be suicidal over that he'd of killed himself long before 1984. Also, just because Brody threw away pills found in David's room doesn't mean that's what killed David. All that means is that's what Brody thought killed David. The autopsy report confirming his death wasn't released until much later, what Brody did was in the heat of the moment minutes after finding David dead. I believe the Brody story but I don't believe David overdosed and that he did die from an intestinal infection. Both things can be true

[@Tornado1994]

He died from a Hydrocodone overdose and had been suffering bulimia.

[@melbias5046]

awesome that's unreal?

[@hellomengyu]

mel bias ppppppppppppppp