Wild Foxes as House Pets?

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ABC News

ABC News

11 жыл бұрын

How anyone with about $8,000 can share their home with a cuddly predator.

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@vintyprod
@vintyprod 8 жыл бұрын
would be ironic if fox news reported this
@nick_hf
@nick_hf 8 жыл бұрын
WOW
@nytekorelegacy7200
@nytekorelegacy7200 8 жыл бұрын
that would be awesome
@Ethercloud
@Ethercloud 7 жыл бұрын
no, just... no
@jordangraham9020
@jordangraham9020 7 жыл бұрын
haha!
@themalaymenagerie3350
@themalaymenagerie3350 7 жыл бұрын
They are too busy with Donald Trump and ISIS
@AkikoMika
@AkikoMika 10 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, foxes are the least aggressive of the canine family. They are less likely to attack you than a dog. They are very skiddish though and will attack if cornered or provoked (like dogs). But they will more than likely run rather than attack. I don't like that the foxes are kept in small cages in this video, but they seem healthier than puppy mills here in the US. I have ALWAYS loved foxes and want one, but I will wait until I know I can properly take care of one. I do not suggest that people go and buy these foxes unless they have educated themselves on fox behavior. They may be domesticated, but like dogs, they will have ancestral instincts. This way, the owner will know if the dog is sick, hurt, happy, upset, etc.
@TVTimOFF
@TVTimOFF 10 жыл бұрын
The thing is these foxes have been domesticated through severl generations, if you left them outside the cage they would most likely die within a short period of time. They have no sense of a wild fox anymore, they are not tame they are completely domesticated.
@megakitty108
@megakitty108 10 жыл бұрын
They have been breed out of their ancestral instincts for several years.
@AkikoMika
@AkikoMika 10 жыл бұрын
But look at dogs. They have been domesticated for many millennia. I have seen dogs run in packs, circle their toys, and show dominance over one another. They are faint hints of ansatrial instincts but nevertheless they are still there. Any animal that has been domesticated and left outside could die, sad but true. Though there are others that leave and wonder. Those animals will begin to scavenge for food and hunt once they become too tired or hungry.
@TVTimOFF
@TVTimOFF 10 жыл бұрын
Well that's purely logic that one shows dominance over another when they still have a personality.. It's not ancestral instincts for a dog to have a personality, they are not suppossed to be freaking lovie dovie zombies you know.
@AkikoMika
@AkikoMika 10 жыл бұрын
Aw but lovie dovie is the best. I know animals have personality. I have a house full of animals with personality and I love it. I'm just saying that you never know. And it would still be wise to research any animal that one is considering having as a pet.
@Merchaant
@Merchaant 8 жыл бұрын
Foxes are basically cats and dogs combined.
@abberistired
@abberistired 8 жыл бұрын
+Merchaant indeed XD
@ArnoldsKtm
@ArnoldsKtm 8 жыл бұрын
+Merchaant well, it's more like a dog because of the nose and nails.
@urmo345
@urmo345 8 жыл бұрын
+Merchaant "foxes has nothing to do with cats, except both are mammals and predators
@nexsusriinafuntype870
@nexsusriinafuntype870 8 жыл бұрын
Foxes are my favourite animals, because they're like both Cats and Dogs ! :3
@nolancapek8819
@nolancapek8819 8 жыл бұрын
+Merchaant Many people think foxes bred in captivity are domesticated, which is NOT the case. Domestication takes hundreds and hundreds of years of selective genetics. Breeding foxes for a few years makes them tame, but not domestic. Their genetic makeup, biology and instincts are all still hard-wired in them, and when combined with intelligence, means destruction, aggression, depression, frustration, and fear.
@hughhughes4488
@hughhughes4488 8 жыл бұрын
What a dumb intro. "Is it possible to breed the savage out of the beast?" Uhhh, that's where dogs and cats come from, humans took wild animals and bred them to be more docile.
@markharrison2625
@markharrison2625 8 жыл бұрын
+Hugh Hughes Yeah, but when are they going to breed the savage out of human beings ?
@Skinkie22
@Skinkie22 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark harrison never.
@hughhughes4488
@hughhughes4488 8 жыл бұрын
***** In this particular experiment, they did it with foxes in less than 50 years. Other slower breeding mammals would take longer. Personally, I'd love to see a domesticated lion.
@jaisamcclain6348
@jaisamcclain6348 8 жыл бұрын
+Hugh Hughes I work at a zoo and we have a few lions and tigers that are domesticated. They love people. They act like a huge house cat. They even try to rub up against there trainer's.
@hughhughes4488
@hughhughes4488 8 жыл бұрын
Jaisa MCclain That's not really domesticated. That's tame. I wouldn't really trust those lions/tigers around my children. The process to domesticate animals is pretty simple though, pick the tamest specimens of the species you can find, breed them, pick the tamest of the offspring and breed them, and repeat the process generation after generation until you have a reliably docile breed. Just like domesticated dogs, cats, horses, etc, there would be physical changes that come with the domestication process. Lions would make a good pet IMO because they are social animals (unlike most other species of cats that are solitary). I imagine a domesticated lion would be more like a dog (also a social animal) than a housecat (whose origins are that of solitary wildcats). After a [long] while, you could even have different breeds of domesticated lions with unique features, giant lions, miniature lions, black lions, brown lions, etc.
@RedVanquish
@RedVanquish 10 жыл бұрын
I wish they weren't caged like that though.
@papermaniac
@papermaniac 10 жыл бұрын
their ancestors were actually rescued from being used as fur. so what is your problem? are you vegan?
@RedVanquish
@RedVanquish 10 жыл бұрын
They're caged like chickens.
@papermaniac
@papermaniac 10 жыл бұрын
BOOM DeadSH0T so what? foxes cant undesrstan the concept of freedom.
@garrettfrancis8457
@garrettfrancis8457 10 жыл бұрын
papermaniac Neither do people, its a concept thats as vague as religion.
@RedVanquish
@RedVanquish 10 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@alrightsayyeah
@alrightsayyeah 8 жыл бұрын
I'd buy one just to get it out of that cage
@DesertWolfFIN
@DesertWolfFIN 8 жыл бұрын
+Amy al we should buy every single of them
@balderdashery1
@balderdashery1 8 жыл бұрын
+Amy al That would be a mistake. Just encourages more and more breeding. If they don't sell any then they go out of business. Anyone that buys from these assholes supports the conditions the foxes live in.
@SuperThunderBolt2
@SuperThunderBolt2 8 жыл бұрын
+Amy al That's all? You wouldn't take care of it!? That's neglect!
@vvbnnnn6364
@vvbnnnn6364 7 жыл бұрын
balderdashery idiot
@tylerdurden7927
@tylerdurden7927 6 жыл бұрын
balderdashery G - If enough people have these foxes then they can breed their own...putting these bastards out of business.
@Pendragon981
@Pendragon981 10 жыл бұрын
Seems cruel to me. They spend their entire lives in small cages unless they're sold? Not much respect for nature.
@Pendragon981
@Pendragon981 10 жыл бұрын
It's not like they have to be domesticated or socialized. There are plenty of dogs that need a good home, especially working dog breeds (sleed dogs, hunting dogs, guard dogs, etc.) that serve a purpose other than to simply amuse the owner.
@madamenononsense6020
@madamenononsense6020 10 жыл бұрын
I see what your saying. I mean a pet fox would be freaking awesome, but I don't like the idea of them in cages their entire lives unless their sold. There are enough dogs doomed to that fate already.
@Pendragon981
@Pendragon981 10 жыл бұрын
It was basically an experiment gone wrong, regardless of what point of view you take.
@kingthunderstar3302
@kingthunderstar3302 10 жыл бұрын
I do believe that foxes do deserve to be domesticated and not hunted and killed because it breaks my heart every time that happens
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 10 жыл бұрын
For out pleasure they are great animals. Ideally they'd be left alone totally, not domesticated. The best you can do for any animal is to leave it be. But yeah/ I'd totally want a fox. I am human.
@kingthunderstar3302
@kingthunderstar3302 10 жыл бұрын
But still, what if the foxes went extinct because they were killed by hunters?
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 10 жыл бұрын
Mark Moore That's a messed up reason to domesticate. Zoos use the same argument. It's all about entertaining humans, not about extinction of the animals.
@kingthunderstar3302
@kingthunderstar3302 10 жыл бұрын
I just don't want foxes going extinct
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 10 жыл бұрын
Mark Moore Let's address the fur and fascist hunting practices, HARD. To take a fox in your home so another can effective shoot the next and wear is a lazy way to care IMO. These fox farms just found a way to profit more that with merely shooting/farming for fur.
@andrewesquivel
@andrewesquivel 7 жыл бұрын
why did they not talk about the Russian geneticist Dmitry belyaev who was hired by the fox farm to create the first generations of tame foxes? They wanted a more tame Fox to be easier to deal with for the fur industry, however when breeding for tameness it directly affects the adrenal glands and thus subsequently affects the pigment of the fur which made it useless to the fur industry but created a very reliably safe and fun pet. This is all important information that they should have included
@GreyDancer42
@GreyDancer42 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was looking for this information! These are not "wild" foxes at all, and in fact couldn't even survive in the wild. The BBC did an amazing article on this - www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160912-a-soviet-scientist-created-the-only-tame-foxes-in-the-world?ocid=fbert
@romesrepublic
@romesrepublic 6 жыл бұрын
andrewesquivel reliably safe a fun? Are they more safe than a regular dog?
@fuckugplus
@fuckugplus 6 жыл бұрын
andrewesquivel he migth even have sabotage it himself too
@strawberryblonde6370
@strawberryblonde6370 5 жыл бұрын
Thats cruel even in islam thats forbidden
@amysmith7490
@amysmith7490 Жыл бұрын
National Geographic article too
@xvs01
@xvs01 8 жыл бұрын
Rip majestic RonRon
@BobBulb
@BobBulb 8 жыл бұрын
RIP
@nytekorelegacy7200
@nytekorelegacy7200 8 жыл бұрын
rest in peace
@meltroxgeolix5675
@meltroxgeolix5675 8 жыл бұрын
;-;
@flyswattroblox1431
@flyswattroblox1431 8 жыл бұрын
:'c
@ReasonablyscaredCat
@ReasonablyscaredCat 8 жыл бұрын
so he died wow how?
@PlainsPup
@PlainsPup 10 жыл бұрын
These imported domestic foxes from Russia are not only expensive, they are also neutered to prevent founding new colonies overseas. That will forever keep prices high, and gene pools small. If you really want to domestic the fox (the way the wolf/dog was domesticated over 30,000 years ago), you have to allow them to reproduce and spread, and not monopolize the market.
@allcapsallthetime1907
@allcapsallthetime1907 10 жыл бұрын
the company went bankrupt six months age. it doesn't exist anymore
@PlainsPup
@PlainsPup 10 жыл бұрын
sinder wolf Interesting, and kind of too bad. Why should the wolf (dog) be the only domestic canid in the world? I think it would be nice to have domestic foxes around, too, assuming they are properly cared for.
@suhbaatar76
@suhbaatar76 10 жыл бұрын
***** I think you already have highest grade domesticated creature - your children. So calm down on it.
@PlainsPup
@PlainsPup 10 жыл бұрын
Suhe Bator LOL ... my children are only as domesticated as my wife and I are. :) Seriously, though, wolves and dogs are my favorite animals, but I think it's cool that there are domestic foxes around, too.
@garfoonga1
@garfoonga1 10 жыл бұрын
If you think wolfdogs are domestic, you clearly don't know a thing about wolfdogs.
@noname144able
@noname144able 10 жыл бұрын
Uh, these foxes aren't exactly "wild" anymore since they behave and almost look like dogs. I don't really see what's wrong here, yeah it's not right to take an animal out of its habitat and put it in a cage, but it's better to be sent there rather than getting killed and be stuffed and used as a fur coat or rug. Think about it, dogs, cats, cows, pigs, chickens, sheep and goats were all once wild animals too so I don't see what's wrong with trying to domesticate other wild animals. It's better for them to be accepted as a family member rather than as a pest that needs to be exterminated...
@noname144able
@noname144able 10 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks :)
@ShieldMaiden452
@ShieldMaiden452 10 жыл бұрын
noname144able Um how are you saving them? They aren't endangered and it's not like by domesticating them your doing them a favor. They are doing this in Russia, not the US, so your not saving American foxes by domesticating them.
@ShieldMaiden452
@ShieldMaiden452 10 жыл бұрын
no they are behaving like a dog who's spent their whole life in a puppy mill & has no social skills. Amazing that people will pay 8 grand for a wild animal that acts like a dog from a shelter who's spent their whole life in a cage themselves.
@ShieldMaiden452
@ShieldMaiden452 10 жыл бұрын
***** they were never on the endangered list... do you even read anything before responding? How are you saving them exactly? They spend their whole lives in cages to then go to some rich person who could've just bought an anti social puppy mill dog to save. And this is Russia, not America this is being done. So how are you saving American foxes exactly?
@noname144able
@noname144able 10 жыл бұрын
It only seems cruel at first, you just have to give it time. I'm pretty sure if you were to go back in time, you would say the same thing about humans domesticating dogs and cats. Would you rather let them let loose in the wild and be used as a fur coat or a trophy? Or would you rather let them be sold and at least be accepted as a pet? I think it's not right to keep them in cages as small as those seen in the video, but I would rather let them live longer in those said cages rather than them getting shot and be used as the next fashion statement. People like you should give up on your fantasies where animals are left alone in the wild and humans love and protect them because it's not gonna happen. Life is not like a disney movie where everything is kind, friendly, gentle and happy all the time. You should realize that letting them be in the wild won't save them anymore. We humans have done enough damage to the planet and its wilderness that protecting them is not enough since there are a lot of people out there who kill them illegally one way or another either for accessory purposes or money making purposes either way, it's much worse than putting them in a cage and not to mention that we are slowly destroying forests, so letting them live in the wild will only save them for a moment until their habitat is destroyed after a few years to make way for cities or villages
@Salpeteroxid
@Salpeteroxid 9 жыл бұрын
What a horrible way to keep animals in. Those cages should be illegal!
@Larry342516
@Larry342516 9 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen how commercial chicken or hog farms operate? How about people who raise rabbits in cages for the market? Of course we don't eat foxes now do we? But they are animals none the less.
@Salpeteroxid
@Salpeteroxid 9 жыл бұрын
Larry342516 That's why I always by free range eggs and Swedish pork, I've never eaten rabbit, I also don't wear fur.
@Larry342516
@Larry342516 9 жыл бұрын
Salpeteroxid That's the only way to go. If you can raise your own meat, eggs, and vegetables its a lot healthier. Rabbit is very good in my opinion only if you know they are farm raised or wild ones. To many GMO feeds fed to store bought meat.
@Salpeteroxid
@Salpeteroxid 9 жыл бұрын
Larry342516 GMO is banned in my country, also antibiotics are banned and only used on animals that really needs it not as a prevention. My aunt had rabbits, but they were to be sold as pets, she doesn't have them anymore but I don't think I could've asked her to give one to me for cooking ^^
@Larry342516
@Larry342516 9 жыл бұрын
Salpeteroxid We need the same laws here in the US. Hard to believe the FDA allows cancer causing GMO's to be sold. But, the big chemical and pharmaceutical companies are paying to have their products approved. Our government sits back and does nothing to control the FDA. I hope some day things change here. Take care.
@MajimeTV
@MajimeTV 10 жыл бұрын
I would never get one, but assuming I did & I walked it down the streets of NYC, someone somewhere will walk by with a fox coat & say "Aww, so cute! Can I pet him?" & I'll say "can I pet them, too?"
@OriginalnaPL
@OriginalnaPL 10 жыл бұрын
ha ha! good one! :) i hate people that kill animals only for their coats... bless them poor souls... :(
@vxy357
@vxy357 10 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! Good one!
@lutgenp6647
@lutgenp6647 10 жыл бұрын
it isn't bad to kill an animal for its fur. we have been doing it since we figured we needed clothes to keep warm. the problem is that people are killing them needlessly. like to make a scarf that they will wear once or twice. or other useless things like miniature handbags that cost tens of thousands. taking their fur humanly and for very good reason is fine in my opinion but when we kill them as a way to show we are rich it crosses the line.
@OriginalnaPL
@OriginalnaPL 10 жыл бұрын
Kutoki oi you just said " it isn't bad to kill an animal for its fur. " actually it IS wrong. people don't KILL sheep for their wool! they only shave them because they will be too hot in the summer anyway. But killing is NOT an option.
@lutgenp6647
@lutgenp6647 10 жыл бұрын
ok, then we needed their skin. I'm not an expert but the killing of animals has played a key role in the survival of man kind. but with the technology of this day and age it isn't necessary. Tbh id much rather live with nature in peace with no killing and infinite peace. but that isnt a possibility.
@TheRealHelvetica
@TheRealHelvetica 10 жыл бұрын
Title is misleading, these foxes have the wild bred out of them. They're as domesticated as any dog, hardly "exotic".
@jessispivey
@jessispivey 10 жыл бұрын
they're exotic in the sense that they have never really been pets before.
@asmallphd9648
@asmallphd9648 4 жыл бұрын
They exotic what you on about
@ASlickNamedPimpback
@ASlickNamedPimpback 3 жыл бұрын
Please, Kill me. What’s the definition of exotic for you?
@jrbass62
@jrbass62 2 жыл бұрын
You can still raise totally wild ones, But they are still animals!!
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 8 жыл бұрын
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
@fenn_fren
@fenn_fren 7 жыл бұрын
Adolf Hitler You're a bad person. Because you hate the wrong people.
@chocolateuniverse6885
@chocolateuniverse6885 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Graham yes I need one
@circularwaves7585
@circularwaves7585 6 жыл бұрын
Shmuck60 the ruin every thing and are feminine
@dove3099
@dove3099 6 жыл бұрын
My dad do you avan know what "Nazi" means you fucking idiot?
@pilgrimstein
@pilgrimstein 5 жыл бұрын
@@dove3099 its a joke
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 10 жыл бұрын
These are not wild animals, and they would never survive in the wild if they were to be released. They have been domesticated for generations. The money raised from the sale of pet domesticated foxes helps fund this centre and its scientific research. Biologists have already learned a great deal about the process of domestication from the work being done here.
@5raptorboy1
@5raptorboy1 10 жыл бұрын
For all the people that say that this is "inhumane" "cruel" or "stupid", I have a question for you. If you went back in time to the time when people where domesticating dogs, would you stop them? If you say yes, then that would radically change history and possibly ruin lives. If you said no, then you're a hypocrite. This is the same as when people domesticated dogs or cats, only this time humans are trying to make this happen. That is nearly the only reason, and the other ones are insignificant other than now, there isn't much wild left for the animals.
@ShieldMaiden452
@ShieldMaiden452 10 жыл бұрын
well i doubt that the cromagnam caveman would even understand what we'd be saying anyways. But if you went back to the beginning of slavery would you think you could change their mind about how wrong it is? In any case, people domesticated dogs back during caveman times and in my dog training studies as well as my wildlife and forestry background, its likely that it was mutualy beneficial for wild dogs and humans. Wild dogs followed around humans to pick up bones and scraps from hunting parties and inadvertently led to dog working for humans protecting them from other predators and other enemies. Now we have dogs that herd, hunt, protect, sniff out bombs, work with humans and they thoroughly love what they do. I don't see a fox being any type of working animal and I prefer working breeds because I hunt, have livestock and tend to do more hunting/gathering then just letting my pet get fat and lazy like most humans do. Cats I don't have any use for, but there again cats were domesticated by fat rich people who needed an exotic animal, just like these rich people need an exotic animal like a tiger or lion or fox... The backstory to this domestication of foxes is that they started breeding foxes for the fur and decided they could make money on also selling live foxes.So no, as a dog trainer and someone with a degree in conservation and fish and wildlife, I can't say I'm a fan of this.
@cloudhppr
@cloudhppr 10 жыл бұрын
even so, domestication of dogs and cats happened over thousands of years. foxes were never domesticated until about 60 years ago. it takes more than 6 decades to completely domesticate a species, and it is a delicate and fragile process that just cannot occur naturally anymore. that is why i feel it is wrong to domesticate wild animals. dogs were used for hunting and protection, as well as companionship, but that was a bonus. foxes are adopted as exotic pets that most people just want to show off and they end up not being able to care for them properly. then it's the rescues and refuges that shoulder the burden
@ShieldMaiden452
@ShieldMaiden452 10 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Thank You! My point exactly
@TigerEyeNoxera
@TigerEyeNoxera 10 жыл бұрын
cloudhppr This.
@adamsmolinski9175
@adamsmolinski9175 10 жыл бұрын
These are NOT actually domesticated, even though they use the term in the video. There are Russian ones, but the video erroneously links those to this case. They're tame, not domesticated.
@MayannHanna
@MayannHanna 8 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, turn foxes into pets and lavish them with attention and love...? Or throw them in fur farms to kill them just to make a coat? I would rather have a pet fox. Besides, life in the wild isn't 'freedom', and having them as pets isn't 'cruelty and enslavement'. Life in the wild is all about the constant struggle for survival, which is natural, yes. But many foxes are killed by predators or by natural diseases (because that's the wild for you). Honestly, the cute little buggers are better off as adorable pets...
@mediagirl6725
@mediagirl6725 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm going to get a pet fox if I can once I'm old enough to live on my own.
@100Predator
@100Predator 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed a fox is very lucky if it even reaches 3-4 years. And this is basicly the case with almost any animal. Its rare to see an old specimen even more rare seeing one dead from old age.
@ashemabahumat4173
@ashemabahumat4173 7 жыл бұрын
That's actually a horrible way to look at it. Just listen to what you're saying- they're better off being owned.
@MayannHanna
@MayannHanna 7 жыл бұрын
Ashema Bahumat Sooo, we should release our cats and dogs into the wild? We're not talking about a person here, they have no sense of 'self' like we do.
@ashemabahumat4173
@ashemabahumat4173 7 жыл бұрын
MayFlower Ann Did I say that? I mean, they can live without us just fine, albeit struggling in an urban environment. I just refuse to look at it with the "They're better off this way" attitude since its literally wrong- they can do fine without us outside of hunting restrictions. And I think them having personalities, being capable of love, and being able to solve/plan out situations shows that there's enough awareness and intelligence there to give them more credit than you did.
@danielmikewicz2158
@danielmikewicz2158 9 жыл бұрын
All this talk about how they're wild animals makes me think, weren't dogs at one point wild wolves and soon bred to be tame? Why can't the same go for a fox?
@crhoades555
@crhoades555 9 жыл бұрын
check out the silver fox experiment in a web search. it actually mentioned the experiment in the video its pretty fascinating.
@BoHimeChella
@BoHimeChella 9 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I think some people are just uncomfortable with the idea of change.
@julianaaa3190
@julianaaa3190 9 жыл бұрын
I love silver foxes
@Caroline-qo3wx
@Caroline-qo3wx 9 жыл бұрын
thats actually exactly what the video said... lol but besides the point of that question. Don't you think humans own enough? when do we call it quits? when do we just let animals be animals and live and evolve the way they are meant to? Isn't it enough we hardly have wolves anymore but we have an over population of dogs? isn't it enough that we have snatched wild parrots out of the forest to put them in cages and clip their wings so they can never fly? i mean seriousl humans are so greedy. thinking everything on earth BELONGS to us. its sad and i want to cry. i wish people would just go get a cute little dog like a sheltie or something and be happy with it. what do we want a fox for anyways? just to be flashy?
@LamiaDomina
@LamiaDomina 9 жыл бұрын
Carolyn Ritchey What if humans "called it quits" before they invented that computer you're typing on? What if we "called it quits" before penicillin?
@joshi897
@joshi897 10 жыл бұрын
Last year I went down to Georgia to see my brother graduate from basic training in the national guard. Honestly can't remember which state, but I stopped off at a rest area with a dog walking park and met a guy with a pet fox named Tails. He said he bought him from Russia for close to $10,000 and that 2 years later it was one of his favorite decisions he's ever made. Tails acted like 80% dog and 20% cat and he was perfect. I've wanted one ever since.
@DamienThornes
@DamienThornes 10 жыл бұрын
"How anyone with about $8,000 can share their home with a cuddly predator." Cats are predators too. And so are humans.
@otherworldlymusic8206
@otherworldlymusic8206 10 жыл бұрын
Don't forget dogs... and how they're very closely related to foxes.
@MATAX5
@MATAX5 10 жыл бұрын
Humans are the ultimate scavengers.
@DamienThornes
@DamienThornes 10 жыл бұрын
And the ultimate predator too. (Even in "Predator", Arny is the ultimate predator; the title references him!)
@MATAX5
@MATAX5 10 жыл бұрын
Damien Thornes On average, humans are scavengers.
@moniekzeilstra8050
@moniekzeilstra8050 10 жыл бұрын
Otherworldly Music Since when? Foxes are actually very distantly related to dogs.
@FlintSparkedStudios
@FlintSparkedStudios 10 жыл бұрын
Now please domesticate moose for riding and raccoon as retrievers kthanxbai.
@localchoom
@localchoom 10 жыл бұрын
***** it may sound stereotypish as a canadian but id love to have a moose to ride
@EvilDude1
@EvilDude1 10 жыл бұрын
There's a dude back in my hometown that actually did that believe it or not. I don't know if he necessarily rides it, but I've seen pictures of him with it with a saddle on so maybe.
@PandaTurtledancer
@PandaTurtledancer 10 жыл бұрын
turtles FTW
@Oldage429
@Oldage429 10 жыл бұрын
***** That's tamed, not domesticated. These foxes are domesticated, in that they were bred specifically for docile behavior and are genetically distinct from their wild counterparts.
@johncarlosahagun4065
@johncarlosahagun4065 6 жыл бұрын
FlintSparked yeah domesticate everything please!
@RickTheGreatestPosterEver
@RickTheGreatestPosterEver 8 жыл бұрын
1 pet fox = 1 less fur coat. Take that vegans...
@fenn_fren
@fenn_fren 7 жыл бұрын
Yay!
@Whydoineedahandlepissoff
@Whydoineedahandlepissoff 7 жыл бұрын
Unless you live in Britain
@liv8447
@liv8447 7 жыл бұрын
Why take that vegans? More like take that fur wearers and meat eaters. Those are the animal abusers and not vegans.
@angelararara6350
@angelararara6350 7 жыл бұрын
Oh you mean when an old lady goes fur shopping, they tell her "Sorry, we have a shortage of foxes lately, there are no more furs to buy"? No, kid.
@comradewolfdog8171
@comradewolfdog8171 7 жыл бұрын
soVia I am sorry what? Humans are born omnivorous which means we eat meat as well as plants we are not abusing animals we are just surviving off our diet given to us by Mother Nature
@Srisauccha
@Srisauccha 7 жыл бұрын
Now this is a perfect pet for people who like Dogs and Cats 🦊😍
@MEGABOINK65
@MEGABOINK65 9 жыл бұрын
I'am not rich, but but can afford one of these gorgeous fox, but dam i rather save the life of a shelter animal.
@UniverseShinobi
@UniverseShinobi 7 жыл бұрын
I'm getting one. This shall be one of my life goals.
@LoganT547
@LoganT547 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@gladitsnotme
@gladitsnotme 9 жыл бұрын
Japan >>>>>> Siberia. There's a whole village of sweet, spoiled, verrrry well socialized foxes over there.
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502 8 жыл бұрын
gladitsnotme by well socialised you mean very casual in their thieving ways. x3 Also it's not comparable, Russia was experimenting. Japan was just being Japan and thought that a cat and deer village wasn't enough.
@MattNeputin
@MattNeputin 8 жыл бұрын
+gladitsnotme Those foxes are still wild. You cannot train them. You cannot take two of them get them home and train them like dogs, and start a company which sells 'trained foxes that act just like dogs'. Russia did something amazing there in my opinion.
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502 8 жыл бұрын
***** not really... Domesticating an animal isn't an amazing feat. Our ancestors have been doing it for centuries. It's simple controlled breeding, selecting for preferred traits in each generation.
@MattNeputin
@MattNeputin 8 жыл бұрын
It wasn't done with foxes before. They took hundreds of years to do that before. I still appreciate what they did.
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502 8 жыл бұрын
***** It's not that amazing, it only takes a few decades. You can likely domesticate any mammal within a few generations, though there's no reason to do it because even a domesticated animal can get agreesive. It's safer to do it with foxes than say a Siberian tiger.
@654321poiuytrewq0987
@654321poiuytrewq0987 10 жыл бұрын
a fox that was born in captivity is not a wild fox
@nolancapek8819
@nolancapek8819 8 жыл бұрын
Many people think foxes bred in captivity are domesticated, which is NOT the case. Domestication takes hundreds and hundreds of years of selective genetics. Breeding foxes for a few years makes them tame, but not domestic. Their genetic makeup, biology and instincts are all still hard-wired in them, and when combined with intelligence, means destruction, aggression, depression, frustration, and fear.
@jrexx56
@jrexx56 8 жыл бұрын
+Nolan Čapek Foxes have a much shorter lifespan so it might take 100 to 200 years to fully Domesticate them....
@reanukeaves
@reanukeaves 10 жыл бұрын
Now make domesticated bengal tigers please
@bouncyballblue
@bouncyballblue 10 жыл бұрын
we already kinda have domesticated cats...
@papermaniac
@papermaniac 10 жыл бұрын
it could be a good way to protect them from extintion, but this kind of domestication take it´s time.
@Bulldogfishmaster
@Bulldogfishmaster 9 жыл бұрын
Domestic polar bear anyone?
@PlanetCharnBaby
@PlanetCharnBaby 9 жыл бұрын
Well, if it gets people to shift their perception of foxes as being either pests or clothing, this is probably a good thing.
@LuisTorres-mn1wv
@LuisTorres-mn1wv 8 жыл бұрын
where are the animal defenders ? what a sad scene
@sophiaspath2199
@sophiaspath2199 8 жыл бұрын
anyone else love the channel foxalbiazul??? I
@PirateOfTheNorth
@PirateOfTheNorth 8 жыл бұрын
Sadly RonRon passed away
@ashwales5960
@ashwales5960 8 жыл бұрын
+FailGirlGamer RIP :(
@georgejohnsmith
@georgejohnsmith 8 жыл бұрын
Was RonRon also a domesticated fox? I thought he was an ordinary one.
@georgejohnsmith
@georgejohnsmith 8 жыл бұрын
SirAiki AQW And by that you mean?
@georgejohnsmith
@georgejohnsmith 8 жыл бұрын
Actually I have just found an article that states Ron was only tame, but not domesticated: www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-10/fyi-domesticated-foxes Considering his bringing up and the conditions he was kept in, it sounds reasonable. Ron was not really a pet, but a friend of the owner, a playmate. I have never seen him in the owner's arms, or hugged, or anything too constraining.
@FoxBatinaHat
@FoxBatinaHat 10 жыл бұрын
Foxes aren't very aggressive naturally (like Wolves, coyotes etc...) they are very similar in temperment as cats.
@OfficialChrisW
@OfficialChrisW 10 жыл бұрын
If you say they need room for then why do you lock em in a small cage in cold Siberia huh
@madisontvwells327
@madisontvwells327 10 жыл бұрын
I swear to god that this will be a house pet like a dog in the future
@jrbass62
@jrbass62 2 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Florida, Been having "Wild Pets" all my life. You can tame all animals some, but you got to know, they are still animals with survival instincts God put in them!!
@HayleydeRonde
@HayleydeRonde 10 жыл бұрын
These animals were bred in captivity by fur farms way before the Russian experiment ever began. Cows don't do well living in the home environment, but we say they are domesticated,.
@LoganT547
@LoganT547 4 жыл бұрын
This guy: "They're great pets" Every single fox owner: say sike right now
@DarDarBinks1986
@DarDarBinks1986 10 жыл бұрын
I so want a silver fox now! I shall call him Ricardo. I'll train him to carry my blue-fronted Amazon, Ricky, on his back.
@SkrapMetal84
@SkrapMetal84 9 жыл бұрын
its a dog with the personality and slyness of a cat.
@SC4newbie100
@SC4newbie100 10 жыл бұрын
It sucks that the news has to tell this to the ignorant masses...
@Negative-3000
@Negative-3000 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. Its not like the average viewer could even buy one ($8,000).
@Negative-3000
@Negative-3000 3 жыл бұрын
Also it would be cool to own a pet fox.
@lightpawshird
@lightpawshird 9 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA! $8,000 is total shit... I have a Domesticated Fox and only paid $350.00 for her. And I bought her in OHIO (USA)
@wasshattereddreams
@wasshattereddreams 9 жыл бұрын
***** Well, another place what I could go for living, when I get the money. Ty for the info :^)
@dominanoctis5727
@dominanoctis5727 9 жыл бұрын
Probably something illegal
@littlebitofrachel1369
@littlebitofrachel1369 9 жыл бұрын
How?
@harrymolloy823
@harrymolloy823 9 жыл бұрын
The fox you bought is tame, not domesticated. It still has wild blood in it, and it not genetically changed over time like the foxes from the institute of cytology and genetics in Novosibirsk, Russia. There is only several of those foxes in the U.S.
@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach
@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach 10 жыл бұрын
This doesn't set well with me , for some reason I feel worst about this than I do seeing tamed lions , I think it's because I can sense that these foxes seem like they still don't like it domesticated & all . Even the big cats seem to adapt but these foxes don't seem to be adapting they don't appear comfortable , the lions & tigers basically still trample the humans so they seem cool but this seems a bit over bearing for these foxes not that lions & tigers need to be lounging around in the narrow hall way that leads to the living room either .
@MoriyaMug
@MoriyaMug 10 жыл бұрын
Tame and domesticated are two very different things. One is strictly about learned behavior, while the other is genetic. Domestication only occurs to a population of animals, across numerous generations. This is no different from the artificial selection performed on farm animals or domestic dogs and cats. It could be argued that it's more humane than either, since they're breeding for temperament and not for appearance. Google "Russian silver fox experiment" for details on how it was carried out. These animals are not as thoroughly domesticated as cats and dogs, but they're still a long way away from their wild ancestors. They also found dramatic and unexpected phenotypic changes as a by-product of breeding for temperament, like floppy ears, odd color morphs that wouldn't be adaptive in the wild (like black and white in cats and dogs), etc., in addition to shorter legs.
@SnowLilies
@SnowLilies 10 жыл бұрын
MoriyaMug good info!
@Hodoss
@Hodoss 9 жыл бұрын
Even normal foxes are nice and easy to tame, especially if raised by humans. Of course I guess it's even safer and easier with those domesticated breeds. To me, the real mistery is : why hasn't fox domestication been common like with dogs and cats ?
@OculusAbsconditus
@OculusAbsconditus 9 жыл бұрын
Cause religion and peta
@Hodoss
@Hodoss 9 жыл бұрын
Edgar humberto tijerina tamez Why were dogs and cats okay then ? A fox seems just like a cute dogcat.
@OculusAbsconditus
@OculusAbsconditus 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm too high right now I can't anserw de question if I cannot understands it
@evanstocker8106
@evanstocker8106 9 жыл бұрын
Hodoss quick awnser is PETA didn't exist until recently dogs and cats were domesticated thousands of years ago
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502
@janadriaanjansenvanvuuren6502 8 жыл бұрын
Hodoss because people liked hunting them more than petting them. And people didn't want to skin their pets.
@zammmerjammer
@zammmerjammer 10 жыл бұрын
Oh thank God. Because all of the animal shelters are closing due to lack of unwanted animals. We definitely need to domesticate wild exotic pets as vanity items for rich idiots. Good job.
@TheSwordsEcho
@TheSwordsEcho 10 жыл бұрын
-_-' i want a fox. I'm certainly not paying $8,000 for one. I have a place near where I live that sells red foxes for about $150 a kit.
@zammmerjammer
@zammmerjammer 10 жыл бұрын
You are the problem.
@TheSwordsEcho
@TheSwordsEcho 10 жыл бұрын
zammmerjammer Yes, it's heartbreaking how many animals are put into the shelters every week, but the population of those animals is ever growing and will never be quelled. There's just too many. Yes, each shelter has a certain housing limit, but guess what? Those are not the only animals out there. There are several out roaming around from the back alleys to the forests in your backyard. If you want to adopt the whole animal shelter, I say go right ahead! I would applaud you for taking on such a task. Stop sitting there behind and a desk telling people that they are a major factor in this problem and get proactive about how you feel. By the way, I understanding your feelings on the matter, but I've always wanted a fox as a pet even since I was little.
@zammmerjammer
@zammmerjammer 10 жыл бұрын
I'm part of an animal rescue org have had 6 foster cats in the past year, so I AM "out there taking on the task" actually. And I always wanted a pet wolf, but even as a child I knew that was a pipe dream. What's beautiful about those animals is that they're wild.
@7curucusis
@7curucusis 10 жыл бұрын
All your dogs and cats were wild once. I don't see anything wrong in domesticating a wild animal to become a pet. I understand there is overpopulation of dogs and cats, which is wrong in every specie. These foxes are beautiful and I would buy one. When they are killed for a coat, people don't like it, when they are sold as pets, people don't like it. you'll always complain about something....
@oBUNo
@oBUNo 10 жыл бұрын
I've never considered these animals to be truly dangerous ever since one approached me as a child and caused me no harm. It simply left and went about its business.
@Swedishcarrina
@Swedishcarrina 10 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feelings. I would rather see them have a lovely life then as part of a coat. However, what is best for these beautiful animals is freedom in the wild.
@schr4nz
@schr4nz 10 жыл бұрын
I understand where you are coming from but they are actually domesticated foxes (50 year experiment that started in the USSR) so that would be like saying, domestic dogs deserve to live in the wild. These foxes are basically man's best friend part 2
@Swedishcarrina
@Swedishcarrina 10 жыл бұрын
I do not feel they should have never been domesticated in the first place. Especially when their lives start out so bleak and in cages. That is what I am saying.
@m1aws
@m1aws 10 жыл бұрын
Carrina H The alternative for their wild cousins is a very rough and tough existence. It is survival through reasonable fear that keeps them away. I think a lot of those animals are going stir crazy locked up. Obviously for breeding only. :( Family life and love is tough on animals too. A good reason why they wander so they only look forward. The face you see with me is that of a part feral local wild cat, who was family to us. We weaned him. Vets were terrified of him. He learned to use commands in English and his later days learned of loss when the tabby next door died, After that only watched, let other animals, (birds etc.) to hop around him in the garden as he basked there. He gave up life a month after my dad died. He knew when I told him "Grandad. All gone". He simply dropped his head, turned around, went under the stairs and just collapsed, he only came out to occasionally eat and go outside to the toilet.
@thedevo01
@thedevo01 10 жыл бұрын
"I would rather see them have a lovely life then as part of a coat." sounds like you'd rather see them have a lovely life and _then_ end up as a coat. I know what you mean though.. it was just ironic and mildly amusing. : )
@m1aws
@m1aws 10 жыл бұрын
Devo Castler I cannot see pets ending up as coats. Not forgetting these are bred from a domestication experiment.
@elizabethgonzalez-1143
@elizabethgonzalez-1143 8 жыл бұрын
This made me so sad. The poor foxes look so stressed in those cages. I hate people who insist on buying animals, especially ones who should be living in the wild.
@BobBulb
@BobBulb 8 жыл бұрын
These foxes would not fare too well in the wild
@elizabethgonzalez-1143
@elizabethgonzalez-1143 8 жыл бұрын
+BobBulb I'm well aware of that. Which is why I am against breeders.
@Drakonurion
@Drakonurion 8 жыл бұрын
look these small cages - worse than a prison - the HELL for any wild animals - SHAME !
@LukeSimpson
@LukeSimpson 8 жыл бұрын
My mom had foxes growing up; she loved it.
@turiu08
@turiu08 8 жыл бұрын
this is alarming
@retrotreeyo910
@retrotreeyo910 8 жыл бұрын
Beast? What complete and utter shit. Like any other dog or cat, give them enough love and attention they will care for you back. Dogs were not the same hundreds and thousands of years ago when they first met man. Therefore nothing is different now. Foxes can be a loving pet. I want one.
@hex8787
@hex8787 8 жыл бұрын
+techtalk You know what he meant stupid.
@hex8787
@hex8787 8 жыл бұрын
+techtalk Dogs descended from wolves. Same way as we descended from the first fish that learned how to walk. Don't correct him saying ancient dogs aren't wolves because technically they are.
@stijnvandevyver7958
@stijnvandevyver7958 7 жыл бұрын
I freaking love foxes. Although i'm still a bit skeptical about having them as pets.
@WuBrotherNumbaOne
@WuBrotherNumbaOne 7 жыл бұрын
Search up foxalbiazul he has a fox has a fox as a pet one of his foxes died sadly in his sleep so now he has another one
@princearatak8003
@princearatak8003 7 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about having a red fox as a pet when I'm olderليان الحسين
@Katzelle3
@Katzelle3 7 жыл бұрын
Pitbulls are worse
@Katzelle3
@Katzelle3 7 жыл бұрын
***** That's how it is with pretty much for any animal.
@Katzelle3
@Katzelle3 7 жыл бұрын
***** Well, an angry Pitbull can do way more damage than a fox can.
@marthanewsome6375
@marthanewsome6375 7 жыл бұрын
That's so cruel, keeping them in tiny cages. I wouldn't buy a fox from them either.
@nuii700
@nuii700 10 жыл бұрын
hope the fox don't eat my chickens
@aquiline-eagle9669
@aquiline-eagle9669 8 жыл бұрын
This is my dream pet. This and a wolf.
@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane 8 жыл бұрын
You can't have a wolf, it would eat you. And a tame wolf is called a dog.
@aquiline-eagle9669
@aquiline-eagle9669 8 жыл бұрын
+Walter Black No, not entirely true, it's a little ignorant to say all wolves will kill you, you'd just need to be a VERY good trainer it would still be dangerous and you you'd have to make an "alpha" impression. You could also get a low content wolf dog.
@CrayonsYummyYummy
@CrayonsYummyYummy 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but still they're unreliable, you never know when their instincts could kick in and create a nasty situation, even with wolf-dog hybrids.
@ryuuna2345
@ryuuna2345 8 жыл бұрын
you could get a wolfdog ^^ You could be also interested in Kathryn Lord's study about why puppies are better tamed than wolf cubs: www.umass.edu/newsoffice/article/lords-study-may-explain-why-wolves-are-forever-wild-dogs-can-be-tamed It says "why wolves are forever wild", but it contains an information, important for getting a wolf more used to humans :) Good luck in archieving your dream ^^
@aquiline-eagle9669
@aquiline-eagle9669 8 жыл бұрын
+Ryuu Na That's wolf *pups ;) Yeah, it would be safest to get a low content wolf dog, but I'd like to get a Shiloh shepherd most :3
@evaciptak1833
@evaciptak1833 8 жыл бұрын
Those poor things. Spending their whole lives in cages. When they're purposely being breed to want to be with people. So sad.
@OstapBender
@OstapBender 3 жыл бұрын
If you research a story litle deeper. Well those foxes doesnt live in a "farm" it's and territory of Genetic Science Research center. And they don't have enough space to keep all of them probably. They researching a way that dogs became domesticated from wolves. And they have three groups of foxes. "Agressive" also selected as a control "wild" group and less agressive (domesticated line). Those foxes who born in domesticated line not only more friendly but more likely to reproduce near to human. Thats why they are selling them. They dont have enough space to keep all the foxes. Thats sad of cource but those animals dont grown for sale. They are part of science research.
@taylorrhoades6660
@taylorrhoades6660 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that foxes are dogs too! They're in the same family. Dogs were wild animals once too and I don't see why we shouldn't be able to take care of and love a fox just like any other normal house pet. As long as you keep it in a good environment. I do have to say I disagree with those cages on the farm though. The poor thing trapped in small cages their whole life.
@Vailwolf
@Vailwolf 10 жыл бұрын
This is so wrong. People like to think just because something is cute and fluffy it's okay to stuff into a cage or keep as a house pet. The way those foxes are being cared for is appalling.
@Maigodseki
@Maigodseki 9 жыл бұрын
On the one side I love how the recreated the domestication of a wild animal.On the other side I really don't like the small cages... Isn't it possible to sell these beautiful foxes to somebody who can afford to offer them more space while breeding them?
@konkydong212
@konkydong212 9 жыл бұрын
Maigodseki That's where american Fox breeders come in.
@Maigodseki
@Maigodseki 9 жыл бұрын
konkydong212 but I thought the project was stopped. And are there any breeders in the US?
@konkydong212
@konkydong212 9 жыл бұрын
Oh, sure. Just look online.
@DamnitMan88
@DamnitMan88 10 жыл бұрын
"oh they are totally safe" *next thing you know, neck bite*
@HadBabits
@HadBabits 10 жыл бұрын
They'd be safe as a dog, I'd imagine. Probably safer than some of the more agressive breeds like pitbulls.
@DamnitMan88
@DamnitMan88 10 жыл бұрын
Zulu Cthulu yeah... safe as dog.. *neck bite*
@denniscruz4991
@denniscruz4991 10 жыл бұрын
Zulu Cthulu pit bulls arent aggresive...educate yourself before making ignorant comments. thanks
@HadBabits
@HadBabits 10 жыл бұрын
I've owned a pitbull, friend. And while he was lovable for a long time, he definitely began exhibiting more aggressive habits and we had to put him down. If you learn anything from this fox experiment, particulary the aggressive breed they raised, is that genes can affect behaviour, and some dogs have more aggressive genes than others.
@connortod9871
@connortod9871 10 жыл бұрын
Zulu Cthulu Sounds like the dog had a bad temperament. I've never met a violent pit.
@rhondaegeland4858
@rhondaegeland4858 9 жыл бұрын
I saw the program, I believe it was part of a documentary about dog behavior and it had a clip about this breeding program in Russia. They showed rows of cages with really friend foxes that got so excited when a person came near their cage. I thought - I wonder what is going to happen to all of those friendly happy foxes - will they become coat? I'm so glad to see they are getting a chance.
@ReigneWolvenshire
@ReigneWolvenshire 10 жыл бұрын
This has been a very patient experiment, I bet. Beautiful creatures. I'd only hope that they get the care they need. Certainly they're somewhat dog-like, but foxes are still not dogs too. I imagine more and more behaviour study will come out of it, though, and people will take time to get to know the species. ^^ I look forward to it. I've also heard that they come out and check out your house and living situation, etc. They don't give the foxes to just anyone with a wallet full of cash.
@wolfinabox3
@wolfinabox3 10 жыл бұрын
UUUGH I want a fox soooo badly! I'm pretty good when training my pets :D (if only I had $8,000 lying around .-.)
@the1uncookedTpain
@the1uncookedTpain 10 жыл бұрын
We can have pet foxes now, but we still don't know what they say? Where are your priorities science?
@katbarkei
@katbarkei 9 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather had a little fox - "Linochka" in Poltava in the 1880's... Hunters brought the orphaned kit to his family estate at the time when my grandfather was just a little boy. Linochka slept with him in his bed... but as expected when time came for mating and Nature called, she left to the woods and never returned... Grandfather was totally heart broken, and remembered her all his life with great love and fondness... The fox is indeed an extremely smart animal and beautiful too!
@tuckerherren5706
@tuckerherren5706 9 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many of the hippies saying "OH MEH GEHD THOSE POOR WILD FOXES ARE WILD AND SHOULD BE FRRREEEEEEH" actually watched and learned about these tamed foxes and realized they were cross breeded with pet dogs for years. These foxes are almost a completely new type of fox specifically cross breeded to make them good house pets. Don't try and start an argument with a statement deep down you know is right.
@pevlez
@pevlez 8 жыл бұрын
Is it not cruel to leave them in those cages?
@SyndicateBrink
@SyndicateBrink 8 жыл бұрын
+Pablo Ruiz Welcome to Russia
@balderdashery1
@balderdashery1 8 жыл бұрын
+Pablo Ruiz Ya think?
@balderdashery1
@balderdashery1 8 жыл бұрын
+Thoben Carnex No one should be supporting this cruel industry. At least they are not being skinned alive for coats like millions of other foxes, but buying from these assholes just encourages more and more breeding. Don't buy them, they don't make any money and they go out of business.
@chrisedward7575
@chrisedward7575 8 жыл бұрын
+Pablo Ruiz What a PIG of a network to celebrate this!
@Whydoineedahandlepissoff
@Whydoineedahandlepissoff 7 жыл бұрын
+Tenno my Benno get out
@stevengruber57
@stevengruber57 10 жыл бұрын
Taking animals out of nature and into a cage? Sick.
@stevengruber57
@stevengruber57 10 жыл бұрын
***** My cat is in a shed with a hole in the side for entry and exiting as she wishes, my dog is in my home where he is happy and healthy. A tiny cage in fucking Siberia isn't a great life, is it.
@stevengruber57
@stevengruber57 10 жыл бұрын
***** the point was they took them out of nature and into a CAGE. They're lives have been made significantly worse by the actions of man. Not true about my dog and cat. Yes, thousands of years ago dogs became domesticated, doesn't mean i need to banish my dog from my home to not support locking up wild foxes in cages for very little gain in scientific knowledge.
@stevengruber57
@stevengruber57 10 жыл бұрын
***** you're boring me now. Round and round in circles.
@nintendo1889x
@nintendo1889x 10 жыл бұрын
Steven Gruber Animal Nazism at its best You should work for PETA
@lucilledelorme
@lucilledelorme 7 жыл бұрын
At $8000 a pop this will mean that there will be a thriving black market of people selling regular foxes as domesticated ones just in need of training as they've all been kept in cages anyway. I remember the original experiment but it's sad that it will just to lead to more misery for more animals at the hands of greedy humans.
@snow-_-crow
@snow-_-crow 9 жыл бұрын
I would totally love to have a fox in the family, they're so energetic and lovable
@madamenononsense6020
@madamenononsense6020 10 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how I feel about this.. I don't think I like it..
@wellsbeilgo9685
@wellsbeilgo9685 10 жыл бұрын
One fox costs more than gynecomastia?! thats too damn expensive :c Maybe when I become a millionaire.
@Valkairie
@Valkairie 10 жыл бұрын
You can probably get one that's been bred in the US or Canada for quite a bit cheaper.
@caseyvee4419
@caseyvee4419 7 жыл бұрын
I had an arctic fox, he was born in capitivity, but he would never stop biting, even after years of owning him and never doing anything to provoke him. Finally gave him to someone else who figured she could tame him.
@Weirdanimalboy
@Weirdanimalboy 10 жыл бұрын
How interesting.... It never occurred to me that foxes could be domesticated like this.... I wonder if Raccoon Dogs can do the same thing. The stages of domestication are fascinating.
@Cyberchase
@Cyberchase 9 жыл бұрын
You can buy domesticated foxes online for about $425 Legally. No black market shit.
@6611nitro
@6611nitro 9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't try that. The scientists on the domestication project created two breeds of foxes, the one you see here which is tame and a separate breed that's the opposite, bred to be absurdly aggressive to prove that it wasn't being close with humans that lead to domestication. Which was released to the wild when the experiment was over. Certain groups that sell these things can't tell or don't bother to check which of the two physically similar breeds they have before they sell.
@poetrix99
@poetrix99 9 жыл бұрын
could it live on tropical area?
@huygia5480
@huygia5480 9 жыл бұрын
Plasticnightmare // Chase which website ? plz ?
@Cyberchase
@Cyberchase 9 жыл бұрын
Huy Veggie I forgot I posted this comment a while ago
@SC4newbie100
@SC4newbie100 10 жыл бұрын
Since I can't reply to anyone thanks to Google+ crap... *A good way to know if an arctic, red, grey, fennec or any type of fox is legal where you live, is if they exist there already!* Look up "livingwithfoxes" blog on Tumblr. She's nice and will answer your specific questions on if a fox, and what type of fox, is legal in your state/city, and most importantly, how you can get one. *Few things to note, owning a fox is a challenge. It only acts somewhat like a dog, but lots of things are different. Do your research!*
@dadeskr
@dadeskr 10 жыл бұрын
weird I can reply to you and I'm not on google +
@SC4newbie100
@SC4newbie100 10 жыл бұрын
dadeskr It seems to have ironed itself out since I posted that. Now it seems that I can only reply to certain people... Perhaps those who have not linked with Google+
@dadeskr
@dadeskr 10 жыл бұрын
ah right. I find the comments are a bit odd sometimes I can't reply to anyone and other times I can reply to everyone.
@EllieMarianna
@EllieMarianna 10 жыл бұрын
People have been keeping pet foxes for years in the UK. Foxes also wag their tails naturally.
@porkdude1196
@porkdude1196 8 жыл бұрын
I live in northern Ontario, honestly foxes arent as vicious as they make them out to be! There was a fox that had babies about 500 feet from our house and she would let the babies play about 3 feet from us, she would sit there watching calmly. There are foxes that come through my yard all the time.
@Lonsoleil
@Lonsoleil 10 жыл бұрын
They're cute, but I wouldn't take my chances on purchasing one. If it ever hurt someone, I'd feel awful. Plus, I don't want someone's parents to sue the shit outta me because my fox bit their kid!
@josevanreyes
@josevanreyes 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think you've quite grasped the content in this video. These Foxes have been breed to be tame and docile for generations. They don't have a violent bone in their body and they're highly sociable. Even wild Foxes are not dangerous at all.
@SoniaSephia
@SoniaSephia 10 жыл бұрын
lol just don't live in California: The land of law suits for idiots.
@Lonsoleil
@Lonsoleil 9 жыл бұрын
***** Well, I'll never own one. It's not for me. My Golden Retriever suits me just fine!
@josevanreyes
@josevanreyes 9 жыл бұрын
Banter Board I wasn't trying to convince you to buy one so I don't see the point in you telling me this
@Aethuviel
@Aethuviel 9 жыл бұрын
I'd think a chihuahua, terrier or other small dog is a much bigger risk of biting people than a tame fox. :P
@SuperHanne84
@SuperHanne84 8 жыл бұрын
We humans just can't let nature be nature. :-(
@burgbass
@burgbass 8 жыл бұрын
Then we should all kill ourselves. Good outcome.
@SuperHanne84
@SuperHanne84 8 жыл бұрын
Burg Bass What do you mean?
@nytekorelegacy7200
@nytekorelegacy7200 8 жыл бұрын
well if they aren't pets, they'll mostly end up being a fur coat
@SuckerKiss
@SuckerKiss 8 жыл бұрын
we are nature, domestication IS a part of nature.. everything we do IS considered nature..
@flyswattroblox1431
@flyswattroblox1431 8 жыл бұрын
lot!
@racheldorn6678
@racheldorn6678 9 жыл бұрын
I hope everyone does realize that dogs were once wild animals.
@joesmoe71
@joesmoe71 9 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if/when these animals were going to start being sold, I remember hearing about the Russian project a while ago, the tame ones looked adorable.
@ladyboywonder9139
@ladyboywonder9139 8 жыл бұрын
Did you see that torture factory in Russia that people support financially with these ignorant purchases ? Stress filled pacing in the cages There are more than enough homeless dogs in animal shelters who get " euthanized " ( murdered) because of human irresponsibility Don't be a part of this chain
@RedVanquish
@RedVanquish 10 жыл бұрын
So much cute. So much want. owo
@phieyl7105
@phieyl7105 5 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing their legs evolved shorter to deal with the environment stress of fitting in a small cage.
@ericsmith4908
@ericsmith4908 5 жыл бұрын
oof
@modrn_
@modrn_ 8 жыл бұрын
Dude I love my dog and I think pets in general are great companions. But seriously, shipping animals clear across the ocean in little crates seems so traumatic.
@kylerupik4064
@kylerupik4064 10 жыл бұрын
Well what a waste of money that experiment was lol. You can already keep foxes as pets. Loads of people do it already.
@katiesisk4738
@katiesisk4738 10 жыл бұрын
but those foxes aren't domesticated. Their tamed, conditioned to be around specific people and to respect them, but they aren't domesticated. They don't actually like humans, or want to be around people.
@Dutchpot90
@Dutchpot90 10 жыл бұрын
Katie Sisk That's why people wan't them as little pups (/>_>)/. Especially if you are a dog lover and owner. We won't really buy full grown dogs unless we are planning to breed it, or if it's rare in our country. etc.
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing 10 жыл бұрын
Not only do "Wild Animals" want to be around humans they prefer it. You think they want to just survive by hunting, being hunted? They do it because they have to, not because they want too! They also live longer, healthier lives. They also live in the now, not the future. Protect live stock, their owners and even other animals in the family not of their kind or species. They also teach humans how to treat each other. As nature is the best classroom for the job of teaching relationships, trust and honesty. Their not stupid by long shot.
@EnigmaHood
@EnigmaHood 10 жыл бұрын
You sound like such a douchebag. Prove it instead of making baseless assertions.
@kylerupik4064
@kylerupik4064 10 жыл бұрын
If you live in UK you'l see it. If you want to you can gain a foxes trust by feeding it and eventually keep it as a pet. Doesn't take long either because they're smart animals and also very gentle.
@Sc0ttPrian
@Sc0ttPrian 10 жыл бұрын
Well, they're not wild foxes. bad title.
@6611nitro
@6611nitro 9 жыл бұрын
The only immediate issue is that the same soviet scientists also did the reverse and made a separate breed that was as aggressive as possible to make sure the experiment results weren't caused by exposure to humans in general. Thing is that breed was released to the wild and now certain unscrupulous people are selling the absurdly aggressive breed as the tame breed.
@Whalemuffins
@Whalemuffins 10 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feeling about this. On one hand, they aren't being slaughtered in masses for pest control on farms, but on the other hand, they have huge coats and will most likely die for over heating in Florida and in warm places
@sylviegeay5493
@sylviegeay5493 9 жыл бұрын
It is so sad these animals are to be in nature .. not in houses or cages.
@shadowfreddy5022
@shadowfreddy5022 9 жыл бұрын
so you rather see them have to hunt and get eaten by a predator or hunted?
@OreoKit3
@OreoKit3 9 жыл бұрын
Do you know that dogs are domesticated wolves and cats are domesticated bobcats, right? This isn't a new thing and it's not wrong or horrible.
@sonikku956
@sonikku956 9 жыл бұрын
The Wanderer Cats are not domesticated bobcats.
@OreoKit3
@OreoKit3 9 жыл бұрын
***** Then, pray tell, what were they domesticated from? Cats were domesticated in Egypt yes, but around the world as well. And I am pretty sure they didn't domesticate tigers and then the tigers shrank.
@sonikku956
@sonikku956 9 жыл бұрын
The Wanderer The African wildcat. Bobcats are American, and as far as I know, domestic cats didn't hit the New World until Europeans came over.
@tSp289
@tSp289 9 жыл бұрын
This report is wrong. The Soviet experiment was not about understanding domestication, it was about breeding more placid foxes on the fur farm (that's what that farm was). The domestication study was accidental. The real interest came with the fact that after a couple of generations, the foxes started developing patchy coats, floppy ears and started barking and behaving like dogs, which was amazing because we had always thought genetic change was a slow and steady thing. It was surprising how quickly wild foxes turned into 'dogs', suggesting the same might be true of wolves (all domestic dogs are descended from grey wolves).
@fishbuddy547
@fishbuddy547 6 жыл бұрын
Aw man, they're so cute. I want one, so I can give to all the love and attention it deserves.
@dingolingo6188
@dingolingo6188 9 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about this is that foxes were domesticated before wolves even were
@Aethuviel
@Aethuviel 9 жыл бұрын
I'd think that the guy who does the talking about foxes here (at the farm) makes money off of them, because that's not true. They're not "just like a dog", or "between a dog or cat", as some people will say (note: the people selling them). They are not house pets, even the domesticated ones should not live indoors if you care about your home at all. They need a large outdoor pen, they smell, they mark, and you can't expect them to be 100% domesticated like a dog or cat, they're a completely different animal.
@MrBrilliantChaos
@MrBrilliantChaos 9 жыл бұрын
You do realize this is over 50 years of genetic domestication, right? Essentially they took foxes that showed curiosity or acceptance of humans, and only let those breed, and if those had pups that were aggressive, they removed those pups from the gene pool, and they did that for 50 years, 50 years! That is a long long long long time. I don't think they should have been domesticated in the first place BUT, there is nothing we can do now, unless you intend on killing all of these foxes because you think that a domesticated life is worse than death.
@misterdude916ify
@misterdude916ify 9 жыл бұрын
I know a few people who have them that would say otherwise
@SkinWalker882012
@SkinWalker882012 9 жыл бұрын
Jessie Woodard Yep
@SkinWalker882012
@SkinWalker882012 9 жыл бұрын
I say to you sir Fennec fox! They are like a cross between a cat and a dog in how they act, you did no research what so ever, I said this to tiana now I say it to you,How the fuck do you think we got dog's in the first place????? Dogs come from Wolves ass hole!!!! Do some fucking research, Dmitry Belyaev and Fox Experiments!!!!! Over 10 years they full domesticated fox's and they where just as friendly as dog's and all so changed in appearance, thats called man made Evolution! If you Hate people having "Wild" Animals then Get rid of any Pets you have, sorry to say they once where wild Animals to!!!! People and animals should work together not apart!!!!!
@WhiteWolfos
@WhiteWolfos 9 жыл бұрын
These are aft.10+ Generations domestic foxes, just like today's domestic wolves(dogs) only difference here is that these foxes aren't following human social cues too well due to their recent domestication. Domestic wolves with a history bred with human cues carved in. Typical answers: Are domestic foxes tame? Yes Do they mean harm to humans? no Are domestic wolves tame? Yes Do they mean harm to humans? no Normally a canine type or feline is submissive when they lay to their side or display their belly on your approach. For foxes they can also squeeze their body to the floor while facing you as a submissive greeting and in combination some will wag their tails or make chirping noises in excitement. Feral ones are dangerous and keeping them means they can snap just like a feral dog. However dogs have the advantage hence they learn (have a genetic history) of learning human body language and tone much easier than domestic foxes. This does not mean foxes can't learn(they are pretty swift adapters in the wild and coyotes even more) but they don't follow commands as refined as a dog does.
@foreverdead1248
@foreverdead1248 10 жыл бұрын
OF COURSE you can breed the 'savage' out of an animal. Have you people looked at your cats and dogs? They all came from wild sources, and they were all domesticated BY HUMANS. A tame fox and a domesticated fox are two completely different things.
@foreverdead1248
@foreverdead1248 10 жыл бұрын
happyhappy joyjoy Troooooll
@hank1972
@hank1972 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah this story left out some thing important... Those Foxes were breed their coats. The Idea was to get a tame domesticated fox so it would be easier to kill for the coat. Luckily it backfired on them when the genes that become active during domestication also changed their coat color making them multi colored and not solid. Glad to see those foxes leave those tiny boxes too.
@kassiekitsune189
@kassiekitsune189 9 жыл бұрын
and that's a lie, they weren't bred for their fur, the entire point was to domesticate the silver fox (which as it's name suggests does not have much of a beautiful red coat)
@hank1972
@hank1972 9 жыл бұрын
Wolfhaven What fucking rock you live under!!!! Fox breeders had been breeding them for 60 years, Dmitry Konstantinovich Belyaev was even working for Department of Fur Animal Breeding at the Central Research Laboratory of Fur Breeding in Moscow in 1948,. The origin was to make more docile fox for the FUR trade. They would be easier to control and maintain if domesticated. It took 40 generations to domesticate the foxes. BUT mid way thru the project the noticed that the silver foxes started to produce spots on there fur similar to dogs. It turns out that like dogs the decrease in hormones and neurochemicals causes a visual change in the foxes fur. Thus breeding them for fur became worthless. Belyaev did continue his research because it was thought that domestication took thousands of years not 40 generations. The fact that this was done originally for fur has been buried but really why would they want to domesticate a fox to begin with?
@FluffySylveonBoi
@FluffySylveonBoi 9 жыл бұрын
They are so adorable!
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