WEIGH IN || Caravan Weights Explained | Land Cruiser 300 Towing | Why We Need a Pedders GVM Upgrade

[@RobbMinion]

Im very impressed Cam and Tiff you have really nailed your weights, and to be honest I dont think alot of people put as much thought into weights as you have, cheers Robb

[@kadachiman7234]

Probably one thing that you left out of your presentation is that to get accurate weights at a public weighbridge you need to get 3 weights measured. 1. The towing vehicle on its own (fully loaded inc PAX as it would be when travelling) = GVM 2. Caravan / trailer on its own (inc. jockey wheel) (fully loaded as it would be when travelling) = ATM 3. Caravan connected to the tow vehicle but with just the towed vehicles axles on the scale = you can calculate Tow Ball Weight with those 3 measurements you can then calculate all the weights you need.

[@veneratedmortal4369]

Wash works weight bridge is a 5 part weight bridge. As long as you disconnect the van and put in the right spot.

[@kadachiman7234]

@@veneratedmortal4369 Fair enough......more weighbridges should be like it....makes it easier.

[@trooper_209lotus]

Great vid again guys! Rear axle weights are what so many out there towing vans don’t realise are very difficult to stay under. We had 17kgs to spare in our 200 and have done a gvm upgrade to give us enormous peace of mind 😊

[@petercross8620]

Correct, rear axle weight along with GVM is where most go over the limits. Had my MUX and 17' van weighed recently and adding 244kg tow ball weight to the rear of the car added 350kg to the cars rear axle and reduced front axle load by 108kg. Something to be aware of.

[@paulsparks560]

How did you check that over a weighbridge

[@davelivo]

Bloopers at the end are my new favourite part of your vids! 'Wife's Cracked it' classic!

[@andrewk579]

Great explanation about towing weights and purpose of GVM upgrade with no change to standard GCM limits

[@ladysusanjane2682]

Excellent result. Always a relief when the weights are ok 😊

[@WildTouring]

Absolutely! I was so nervous about weighing it after all the time and money spent planning/building it 😬

[@Tom-lf8hx]

Long range full tank will be so handy with that weight to spare 👌

[@brandyloons]

You guys do such awesome informative/educational videos.. thank you!

[@WildTouring]

Thank you 🙂

[@A-contented-Aussie-life]

We thought we saw you Tiff in Denmark. I was the one that stepped out in front of you at the Camel shop.. "my bad" The weather is still windy, wet and cold down here mid January. We really started watching you guys regularly just before you bought Forbes and began your lap if the state. Watching you guys is what started the spark of an idea to begin our journey.

[@WildTouring]

Haha don’t be sorry I would have been in a world of my own! 🙈 Cam asked me to call in to the bottle shop on the way back from the animal farm with the kids and I’m honestly like a fish out of water at those drive in bottle o’s, I had no clue what to do or to buy! Haha 🤦‍♀️ thanks so much for watching!

[@richarddettmer6021]

We just stayed at Boscabel a couple of weeks ago. Great little spot!

[@glenhopes8233]

"The tech doesn't scare us any more"...my, haven't we gone all modern!! Great video guys.

[@kaylamaeramsden9218]

Boscabel is where my family lives, that hall is still used to this day 😊😊

[@graemegrieve1953]

Hi Cam, I had a similar TBM percentage as you… 260kg and 3.2T van so I fitted an additional jerrycan & holder between the 9kg gas bottles with a few other tweaks and now we’re at about 300kg Extra water, extra TBM and fits really neatly. Will email you a pic as I can’t attach here.

[@buzz9972]

Cam, as you have a lift in your 300 check your steering stops that they line up on full lock. I found my 300 with a 50mm lift in the front put the steering stops out of alignment a bit causing a clunk on full lock when they fully seat/stop. If you look at the stops you’ll see they have a very curved stop on the steering arm.

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate, will keep an eye on it. No clunks coming from it that I’ve noticed 👍🏼

[@donfinch862]

Well that's a great result! Great slides showing the weights Cam. So a rubber ducky boat and outboard to get now, that will be interesting what you choose and why. Cheers!!

[@WildTouring]

Cheers Don 👍🏼 🍻

[@mattblakiston8933]

Awesome info mate. Loving Chloe sharing her thoughts on the 300 too. You need a Chloe's review section 👍🏻👍🏻🍺

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate, haha she’d love that!

[@JayWilFo]

Thanks for the vid. Hopefully it’s cooler down there than up here in Perth. Sticky as balls outside this weekend

[@nzmarkb8713]

I’ve been running those Yokohama’s on my 200 for a couple of years now They are great, low road noise and still grip well on wet blacktop as well👍

[@WildTouring]

Been hearing mixed reviews on them, but so far I’m impressed! 👍🏼

[@cathbp4089]

Thanks that was a good one, particularly as in the same boat as you re the 300. Just about to do GVM so am getting my head around weights...

[@paultoohey9044]

Just a reminder Cam Australian consumer law over rides the makers warranty. You will give the manufacturer a way out with the tune even after the ‘Warranty period’ expires! Great video and any good free camping spots down Denmark Way

[@tim.sorensen5862]

Nice little product placement for the Everyman podcast

[@WildTouring]

Gotta plug my main man!

[@tim.sorensen5862]

@@WildTouring it is a good podcast e needs to get his arse in to gear and put out 1 a week I need them for my flights to and from work

[@gregmckinley8569]

Cam, watched your previous video and this video about roof rack wind noise. I had heard same thing, light bar under roof rack can quieten the wind noise down. Thought bugger it, will test the theory as my roof rack gets a bit of wind noise. Bought a 41”light bar, installed under front of platform roof rack. Heaps quieter mate. Worth a go

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate, yeah have heard the same!

[@paulgeorge7158]

Awesome clip guys 👍

[@mickp10]

Best GVM, GCM, axle load, GTM , ATM weights walk through i have seen, easy to understand. Thanks for the video. Congratulations on becoming a scooter boy...i'm in my 40's and ride an escooter and ebike to work, my wife shakes her head 😂.

[@WildTouring]

Haha cheers Mick 👍🏼

[@jz_xsplrn]

Hey Cam, to solve the roof rack wind noise issue have a look at the ARB Base Rack and wind deflector. I switched from a Rhino Rack to that configuration on my LC200 => absolutely no wind noise at all now!

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate, definitely looking at the base rack now. Wanted to make the Yakima work for the load carrying capacity, but the wind noise will cause a divorce at this stage 🤣

[@jz_xsplrn]

@@WildTouringSure. Hope both those challenges work out 😂😂😂

[@milescrommando4622]

Tons of useful information for the average Aussie. Car manufacturers should just upgrade these beasts from factory so the average driver doesn't go overweight.

[@peterj5751]

They should at least have a factory GVM upgrade given so many people buy these to tow big vans and it is very easy to exceed the standard GVM. This isn’t unique to Toyota though.

[@markward38]

Thx for the update mate

[@SomervilleMetalWorks]

I don't know if I've mentioned this before but I've got the X-ATs on my Y62 and after 30k on them I"ve come to the conclusion they're downright dangerous in the wet. Understeers badly and I find super easy to lock them up and then your into the abs and got no hope of stopping

[@WildTouring]

A mate with a y62 has had the same issues. But then I see heaps of positive reviews. So we’ll see how we go! Maybe batch issues, or maybe BS reviews!

[@stevesmith3556]

Very cool to see how everything is working for you! I'm always amazed at how regulated weight is in Australia. In the states, it's pretty much left up to the owner to manage until there is a claim. I can see the need for the restrictions, but it seems like a huge pain for the people who are responsible. And, I'm sure there are fees and taxes collected for inspections😮. Your wife's face with the screaming kids😅😂😅. Cheers Cam!

[@regsmith3535]

Very informative, thank you.

[@carly-0-7]

So informative thank you

[@terry2833]

Thanks guys looks great.

[@craigtomkinson2837]

Lovely Ep

[@titanx04]

Great explanation of all your weights, too think , yeats ago you had falcons , commodores loading up for trips, imagine there over limits these days.

[@ianweal3081]

Yep, many overloaded the moment they hitched up. Commodore rated at 1600kg. Statesman rated at 2100kg??? Falcon rated at 2100kg. V8 Falcon rated less, from memory 1800kg. I was an honest caravan salesman, would immediately advise I couldn't sell them a van without updating their vehicle. This highly enlightened customers, totally worked in my favour as they'd rtn to us for caravan purchase once new vehicle had been sourced. But others got totally pissed also and walked away, especially the V8 Falcon guys. Aside from that, loved selling vans, holiday every day of my life.

[@fleurneumann8430]

Another great video Cam and Tiff with really good explanations of weights .

[@peterj5751]

I also have a Rhino Rack Pioneer Platform on a 200 series in my case and I found it caused a lot of wind noise. I made a wind deflector under the rack to reduce the air flowing underneath it which made a substantial improvements. Interestingly I had the same rack on a Prado without problems so I thinking it’s something to do with the shape of the roof.

[@WildTouring]

Yeah I think you may be right! I had a rhino on the dmax and no trouble with any noise!

[@philc5364]

Good to see your toys are working well for you. Just watched a vid from all 4 adventure. googled this vid abt the 300 "Jason just had some work done to the engine of his 300 and Matt from just autos talks about the issues with turbos" very interesting. journey unkown had turbo problems. hope this helps you in some way

[@pointednowhere5858]

I can only imagine whatvit felt like driving off the scales = winning 👌💪

[@WildTouring]

So good!!! 😝

[@buster_1972]

Haha 😂 was wondering about the oil 🛢️

[@user-rv6zk1pp7r]

Great vid Cam, especially your explanation of the weights & distribution, rear axle loading & towball weights seem to catch people out. We are looking to move away from our Patriot camper to an off road van the next couple of years on prep for a big lap in 2027 and one thing I can’t find much on is payload. Some of the vans with the older style of construction (eg Kedron) seem to have nothing left by the time you fill the water tanks up. I guess this doesn’t matter much for most grey tow-mads as a couple of cardys & a fishing rod don’t weigh much, but families when you add 4 bikes, 4 peoples with of clothes, school books, toys, games etc even 500kg doesn’t go far😕 Great choice the GX there’s plenty of features as a 70 series owner it would be amazing just to have split zone AC, don’t need a sunroof or heated seats in a touring vehicle 😄

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate, all the best with your hunt for a van!

[@dancotter7050]

If you want to increase towball mass, just crank the Mr hicth adjustable towball up a notch. That will increase towball mass as front caravan axle won't be working as hard.

[@brianhood9779]

As a new caravaner, we bought a GXL LC 300 to pull a zone peregrine bunk van. 300 is almost stock with method wheels and Mickey T tyres + airbags. No “fruit”. We don’t have a read on front/rear axle weights. We found that the vehicle was a bit like travelling in a launch hence the addition of air bags. Travelling weights are: GCM 5.98, GTM (on tow) 3.02, off tow 3.26t, Ball wgt 240kg, van GVM 2.96t. Van is rated @ 4.5t so have a D045 hitch. We were brutal on weights and have been running in the high 17 to low 18l per 100k. 300 has power to burn for our setup. Apart from dying while under load pressure twice (steep, steep hills and byfiefd NP sand hills) my mistake as I didn’t think in needed low range! I expect my weights to slowly climb but we’ll address suspension as required to stay within laws. Only 9k travelled. Anyway keep producing fun, informative, entertaining warts and all content. Brian

[@bradhowell9241]

Are you sure the Peregrine has a 4.5t ATM? If it has the factory ATM upgrade it will be 4.0t.

[@richardcroome8533]

Also Peregrine is a non bunk caravan, try the Zone Sojourn family bunk caravan.

[@Craig_O]

Our dmax's we have at work have all the lane guidance assist and braking crap in them, and can turn it off.. but we got warned it voids insurance if deactivated... not sure if its bs or not but thought id mention. And a side note, Happy wife = happy life Cam, that is now Tiff's scooter 😂

[@WildTouring]

Haha yeah I think she’s claimed it now anyway 🤣

[@martytee4042]

Brodie is going to be a handful. Lol. He's going to be a camera hog later. Great info on the weights, I think the 300 is going to make a world of difference to your travels, mind you at $120k it would want to be. Looking forward to your 2024 plans.

[@WildTouring]

Haha yeah I think you’re right!!

[@paulsparks560]

Can you please tell me how you calculated the axle weights going over a weighbridge. Thanks Paul

[@aaronhunter7062]

You stayed next to family farm at boscobel

[@Mosesk1988]

100% with the lane assist, i turned mine off on my Ranger, scared shit out of me one time i went to overtake towing me camper 😂. Never again.

[@kadachiman7234]

Great presentation of the weights. Even though you are technically within the weight limits (and in no danger of getting a fine or a stop driving order by the Weights and Measure boys) I believe you are practically over the weight limits. IMO the ATM should not be more than 75% of the GVM (you are at 82-83%) otherwise you have the potential problem of the tail wagging the dog....and end up with the dreaded sway. Adding Long Range Tanks etc. (up to 300kgs) to the GVM will certainly help with the weight percentages. What your presentation does highlight is that most of the people out there with 3500kgs caravans are likely to be over the weight limit if the towing vehicle is a 4WD

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate! Definitely agree that it’s a good idea to have the car heavier than the van. Weight distribution and ride height also play a huge roll in handling characteristics. This setup is towing like a dream 👍🏼

[@kadachiman7234]

@@WildTouring great to hear mate and it is obvious that you are very aware of weights, distribution, towing, etc....which is why your videos are a very valuable resource for others. PS - and I ordered a Mr. Hitch adjustable hitch after watching one of your videos as I have been looking for something like that for some time.

[@Mrbuckaroonie..]

Yeah good clip Cam. Just goes to show if you want to tow a van, a GVM upgrade is almost a must. Glad you are under mate and got a bit of fat to do a few other things.

[@WildTouring]

Cheers Buck, stoked with the results mate 👍🏼

[@grootliam]

Cheese 😂 mate! . Great vid as always.

[@StefanSchulz-xy3le]

H y guys thank for the info any chance to take a couple of pics of the stone stomper bar at the rear of the vehicle please

[@WildTouring]

No probs, shoot us an email or a msg with what you need photos of and we will do our best to help 👍🏼

[@brianmercer0113]

Pretty sure I saw Chloe a few days ago in The Dam Distillery, I mentioned her hair to my wife.

[@HudyGamer14]

Do an exhaust. It is the best thing I ever did. Standard exhaust is quite restrictive. I went with beaudesert exhaust, best value for money. A lot better when towing and it sounds nice.

[@WildTouring]

You do a DPF delete as well?

[@HudyGamer14]

No I didn’t. That might be for when warranty is all said and done. Car just seemed to open up and breath so much better.

[@tonywu683]

Does the gvm upgrade impact Toyota warranty?

[@JamieWilliams-j9z]

I brought 2 electric scooter over xmas sales with both having suspension cost me 5k but worth it for suspension but after 20kms my legs kill but we also put the kids on with us and well we are on the gvm or over hahah but make it easy to explore

[@WildTouring]

Haha they are so much fun hey!

[@chrissmith-ck8cn]

how you get weights on flat bed weighting station?

[@seanchristie7150]

Awesome episode, love the common sense approach to the weights. Man child toy as she takes off with no kids😂

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate, haha yeah I reckon she’s put more kms on it than me!!!! 🛴

[@seanchristie7150]

@WildTouring Not surprised at all, they are a fantastic alternative when camping close to town n you just need a couple of things from the shop or if you are remote but away from the van n need something from the van. Good selling point for Tiff

[@sarahwise-music956]

Hey team. What's the door youve got installed to partition off the kids bunks please? Shown at about the 13 minute mark. Thanks

[@WildTouring]

Hey Sarah, it’s a concertina door that came as an option on the van when we ordered it 👍🏼

[@travellingourcountry4949]

Hi Cam How accurate is the public weighbridge ? Cheers

[@WildTouring]

Hi mate, as a public weigh bridge it’s verified with the National Measurements Act, compliant with transport industry regs, meets DOT requirements for licensing/registration and regularly calibrated by certified techs 👍🏼

[@kmuinde]

making me want a landcruiser too

[@WildTouring]

Haha they are a very nice car.

[@iandibley8032]

Great content, with the Stone Stomper, they do a flap notched in exhaust exit location, we cooked ours on the Lc 200 no issues since fitting the replacement. The weights need constant work ,with long range tank ,bullbar etc it is surprising how quickly things change, especially on the rear axle max. I have had concerns if any problem were to occur with a rear axle failure. How would Toyota warranty claim be effected who pays up the suspension supplier or Toyota? Shock loading is an issue and can increase weights substantially if one hit a large pothole etc. Safe travels

[@WildTouring]

Cheers mate! Yeah valid concerns. I guess the options are to run with genuine Toyota products, stick within factory weight limitations and pray if you have a failure it happens within the short warranty period. That’s just not an option for us. Factory suspension would handle horrendously with the weight we’re lugging, we wouldn’t be legal/insured and we’d have arguably a much higher chance of gear failing. So we stick with what we know. 7 + years running Pedders GVM upgraded vehicles, many 10’s of thousand kms of rough tracks loaded to the limits and it’s always performed well. We chose a brand that’s been around for 70 years, has over 100 stores around the country, a long history of supplying kits to NGOs, emergency services and the mining sector, and works with Toyota to deliver vehicles upgraded pre registration.

[@lighthouse2k]

Don’t think anyone would be paying up on a rear axle problem. Both would wipe their hands. But then why are the chances.

[@SollysOnTheRoad]

cheers for the vid , just wondered if you still had the WiTi alarm system and how its going , have one ordered for our build and hearing some issues with some aspects of their system. Cheers 👍

[@WildTouring]

Still have the alarm system and no dramas with it! Don’t have any of the other additional gear or gps tracking that goes with it though.

[@OrangeHex.]

Interesting video. What is the max weights for a normal car licence in OZ ? Here in the UK mine is 7500kg for small lorry and 3500kg for a car and a gross trailer weight of 3500kg with a car Things change when you hit 70 years. Pretty much most caravans are lighter than the car ~80% ish

[@WildTouring]

4500kg for a regular car licence, don’t think there’s a limit on GCM. Our full size family off-road vans are getting ridiculously heavy, it’s not unusual for vans to be significantly heavier than tow vehicles.

[@buzz7927]

I have a stone stomper on my 300. done 15,000 ks with it and not and issue. It gets hot but does not burn

[@stewbakka74]

Hey Tiff, what brand tow hitch is on the LC300? We just got ours and scoping out a hitch.

[@WildTouring]

Mister hitches - www.misterhitches.com.au/products/mhabm-5xhd

[@superwag634]

can standard tyres on a lc300 handle the increased 2240kg rear axle capacity? 1120kg per tyre?

[@phillbrewer4880]

Hi Cam, I was wondering about the roof rack noise. Is it just general wind noise or is it also vibration/humming? I bought a roof rack for one of our cars many years ago. The rack was a genuine product and as soon as I put it on and drove a few K's, I had to stop and take it off, as it was way too noisy. I googled it and the fix was wrapping a rope or wire around the front cross bar to break up the vortices coming off the back of the bar. The roof rack is now silent. I took the wire off the rack and put some vertical runs of silastic in its place as the wire kept coming undone. Same result. Maybe you could try it instead of replacing the rack. Cheap hack.

[@kadachiman7234]

What a lot of people are unaware of is that any GVM upgrade may void your car manufacturers warranty. Toyota Towing Handbook, which is available online, acknowledges GVM upgrades but does not give any definitive information as to whether it voids your warranty or not......and we all know what often happens when areas are left grey and open to interruption. Pedders (and others) may warranty you suspension upgrade, but they do not warranty the cars drivetrain, transmission etc.....that would be your cars manufacturer who did not warranty the suspension upgrade.

[@robertwilson1827]

Unless you have it done before it's registered??🤔

[@kadachiman7234]

@@robertwilson1827 registration has nothing to do with a manufacturer's warranty.......it is just government approval that the vehicle has passed inspection to be allowed on public roads.

[@kevincornish1007]

You explained the weights well, was the weigh bridge at canning value? Can you just turn up and how did you do the tow ball mass, what was the cost please.

[@WildTouring]

Yes it’s Canning Vale, address is in the video description. It’s 24/7 and accepts card payments. $40 for initial certificate, $10 for reweigh. For tow ball mass you unhitch caravan so that caravan wheels are on one plate and jockey wheel are on another, and pay for reweigh.

[@smaldo19]

For accurate tow ball mass it should be measured at the tow ball and at the same height as when hitched to the vehicle.

[@slowboat6021]

Glad its going well for you guys. unlike a mate of mine who waited 2.5 years for his van and then found he was well over weight... next stop the GMC shop!

[@WildTouring]

Sorry to hear that, van manufacturers are often so tight lipped on weights too! Many of them are so bloody heavy and have terrible payloads! 😡

[@Susieandchris]

Our gx used a bit of oil first 10 k and nothing since . I put 1.5 lt at 5000km Second 10000km fuel economy drastically improved 9.5 around town and 17 towing 2.5 T. DPF burn about every 160km . Only negative is left knee on long trip sits on console. Airbox /filter gets lots of water in on it when it rains . We are looking at long ranger tank not the other major brand as lots have cracked leaked . Toyota fixed the horrendous brake squeel under warranty so all good !

[@WildTouring]

When did the brake squeal start? Heard a bit about that, but havnt noticed it yet. Yeah mine does burns at about the same frequency, always at the worst time too- just as you arrive at a destination haha

[@Susieandchris]

@@WildTouring your brakes should have the new parts from factory. Ours started from new . Usually cold first thing and always in dusty roads . Didn’t do it in warm conditions in sealed roads just Perth winter and dirt roads

[@Susieandchris]

@@WildTouringjust to add oil non issue just uses a bit on break in . Your brakes should be fine as later build . You may have the new turbo bolt design so that should be fine . The only issue you you will have is the raised intake leaks but like me will fit the safari when they come out for the GX . It’s a great car fantastic for touring . We have done 16000 km so far . Maybe when you do a walk around with one of your videos could you show the hitch and stone stomper setup as our new van comes in June . Have a pop top at the moment . My wife and I love your videos as your whole family is involved . Well done young fella

[@KWofPerth]

Hi Cam. So no need to run airbags with the Pedders setup? No sagging when you hitch up?

[@WildTouring]

Would depend on your setup and weight. For us right now without airbags it’s handling really nicely and isn’t sagging towing the van. I may need airbags down the track if I add more weight with LR tank etc though.

[@scottreeves8890]

Hi, I’m new to this, so looking for help, do you include the towball in the gcm calcs as that load is in the van when towing?

[@scottreeves8890]

I get it now, you weighed the Ute with the caravan connected so tow all weight is included… great episode , just trying to not get it bay wrong 😂

[@WildTouring]

Hey Scott, yes the GCM (Gross Combined Mass) is the total weight of car and van together. So it definitely includes the tow ball weight (TBM) , but if the van is hitched onto the the car it’s included on the cars GVM because that TBM has transferred from the van to the car, like this; GVM (Cars weight including TBM) + GTM (weight of caravan excluding TBM) = GCM (total weight of car and caravan combined)

[@nathanduly572]

Hey Cam, I recently went and took a 300 for a test drive and thought it would be quite a fun car offroad. Questions : how have you combated the throttle lag? I noticed when putting my foot to the floor I could've made a cuppa before it selected a gear and started moving. Also how does that affect it offroad and while towing on road? Looking at lapping Oz and tossing up between this and the ram 1500 limited.

[@WildTouring]

Hey mate, I put a throttle controller on it so that I can select the responsiveness for the type of driving I do- stop start commuting/ towing/ offroad etc. The factory drive modes also alter the throttle response. The manual suggests you tow in sports mode. Which I find was much nicer to drive in just about every situation. I love the car. Tows beautifully, it’s comfortable, has plenty of power and goes great offroad.

[@EastofSomewhere]

Hello Cam. Did you do the GVM upgrade pre delivery? It is my understanding that if you don't then the upgrade is only valid for the state you are in. I'm not sure if that means that you become automatically over the limit in the eyes of the law when you go across state borders or of it only matters of your were trying to register the vehicle in another state.

[@ianweal3081]

Cam may answer this better, but I got a Federal (pre rego upgrade) GVM upgrade as I wanted to be compliant in any state & able to onsell our vehicle intestate if necessary (we have purchased interstate ourselves previously). Federal compliance gets a second VIN plate known as "second stage of manufacture" VIN plate. In our case it's mounted beside our Nissan VIN plate. VIN number remains the same, just details federally uploaded across Australia. Moving on, as I understand it, your vehicle just has to be compliant in the state it is registered in, hence "after initial rego upgrades" are state compliant only but once registered can be utilised interstate for practically any purpose, mainly touring though. Should you wish to sell it or register it interstate, the previous upgrade becomes invalid & requires to be re-engineered to compliance of the new state. It's certainly painful, not automatic. However, Federal (pre-rego) negates this issue, it's automatic. Hope this helps. Note, I'm not in a position to give legal advise, my personal understanding only.

[@Family_and_Happiness]

Mines an August 2023 build and I've got the same amount of kilometres on mine. I've just towed a 2.65T van 2000km and mine hasn't used any oil. I'm averaging 18-20L/100km at the speed limit (including 110km/h zones where legal such as Victoria and Queensland). I've got similar mods except for the roof rack and I've got standard size tyres but in an A/T. Happy Travels. P.S That's the worst looking parma I've ever seen. Hopefully it tasted better than it looked.

[@WildTouring]

That’s good economy! I’m sure I’ll get mine down, I’m enjoying the power and probably driving like a bit of a lead foot at the moment!

[@boxheadmr]

Hey guys, love seeing the kids growing up. Thought u would have a higher rear axle weight. Watch with the long range tank. I have too much over the rear. Are you thinking about a rear screen? Or just ipads? Would be keen to hear your thoughts if you are. Is the garmin going ok now?

[@WildTouring]

Just iPads at this stage, handy being portable and will load some school apps on for full time travel next year 👍🏼 Garmin is still not working, goes back for replacement next week. 😞

[@deniseday4613]

How did you get your Ball weight on a weigh bridge??, I can understand GCM and GVM, we also have a LC300 and strangely enough have the same GVM upgrade as you, our vans ATM is 3495, our GCM was fine, but don't you need an independent professional to get an accurate Ball weight??

[@WildTouring]

Measure the height of the draw bar while the vans hitched. Unhitch the van so that the jockey wheel is on a seperate plate to the van axles, lower jockey wheel to the height it was when hitched to the car and drive off the weigh bridge. You’ll get two weights, the TBM and the GTM. Add them both together and that’s the ATM. Or, unhitch the van so that jockey wheel AND axles are on the one plate (if your van will fit). That single weight will be your ATM. ATM - GTM = TBM. Or, buy a tow ball weight scale. These are not super accurate. But can be handy to use at home to see how moving things around in the van affects weight distribution.

[@Tex990]

The GX doesnt have Lane Trace Assist only Lane Departure Alert. The VX and higher have LTA

[@WildTouring]

Ahh okay, I’ve been calling it the wrong thing 👍🏼 whatever it is- I turn it off 🤣

[@stewbakka74]

@@WildTouring we all do, noatter the trim level 😜

[@naashuman5503]

It's a TOYOTA forget getting codes and stuff 😊 Not just a TOYOTA, their absolute pride from factory.

[@allanpower8041]

What prompted you yo change to Yokohama tyres?

[@WildTouring]

Honestly mainly availability. Couldn’t get Toyos or Falkens at the time. But they have an off-road replacement warranty that I’m keen on trying 🤣 and my mechanic (AGD auto) is a dealer and does good prices. So thought I’d give them a crack.

[@allanpower8041]

@WildTouring OK, look forward to a review sometime in the future. Enjoy your travels with the fam.

[@markdixon215]

Thanks for your video on the weighing. It was very interesting. I noticed, though you said that the towbar weight of 260 was included in the vehicle weight and then later on you said it was included in the caravan weight so it can’t be in both which is it or have I just picked this up wrong? Thanks for your advice.

[@WildTouring]

Hey Mark, the 3440 GVM included the 260kgs of ball weight because the van was on when it was weighed. So in this instance with the van on the back; GVM (3180+ 260 TBM) + GTM (2840) = GCM (6280). If the van WASNT on the back and I weighed both separately it would look like this; GVM (3180) + ATM (GTM 2840 + TBM 260) = GCM (6280)

[@kadachiman7234]

When attached to the car it is part of the GVM (cars weight), when unattached it is part of the ATM (caravans' weight)...so you are correct it is not counted twice when it is looked at as a combination of car and caravan.

[@markdixon215]

@@kadachiman7234 thanks for your quick response. I didn’t quite pick that up. Got it now. Always appreciate your advice and explanations. Have a good trip. Cheers Mark

[@markdixon215]

@@WildTouring thanks for the quick response, I understand now, didn’t quite pick that up, all good now, many thanks. Always appreciate your videos & advice. Safe travels. Cheers Mark

[@aussie_camp_dad8779]

Old boy had an inflatable boat on his lap only used it twice 😅 put your fishing budget towards charters 🎣

[@WildTouring]

Probably a better option to be honest!

[@aussie_camp_dad8779]

@@WildTouring as much as I’d love to have a roof topper for our lap in 2026 it’s just not feasible with gcm and fuel costs weather windows, charters are where it’s at and it would make for some good content.

[@RobertFox-y7x]

big fines for DPF delete ?

[@WildTouring]

Unfortunately yes, would love to do it but we couldn’t risk it.

[@alex.caddell]

Given you are so far under GVM with the GVM upgrade, aren't you concerned about the suspension performance both when loaded and even unloaded? Pedders GVM upgrades are there to cover the additional weight at all times. They aren't progressive, so I imagine this will be firm and stiff and not flex as well as it could. Load it up! Boat, motor, more weight. get it in and i Imagine it will settle in really nice once you get another 400kgs in the car

[@WildTouring]

Cars over factory GVM with the van on, needed to have a GVM upgrade to be legal. Springs are the 200kg constant load option. It’s my daily driver and drives beautifully - fridge, draws, battery system are all built in and stay in the car all the time.

[@marnibarratt8805]

hey guys just on the weigh bridge, I've heard they are not accurate for cars & vans?

[@WildTouring]

They’re periodically calibrated to be accurate within a reasonable margin. Department of Transport use them for licensing, they’re the mob that enforce compliance. So if it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for me 👍🏼

[@marnibarratt8805]

thanks Cam! xx@@WildTouring

[@trimat2016]

That's a massive increase in GVM with the Pedders kit. I would be concerned about how the chassis and body mounts are going to cope with that over time. I can't imagine Toyota helping out if there is a problem so do Pedders offer any kind of warranty?

[@WildTouring]

5 year warranty from Toyota, 2 year warranty from Pedders 👍🏼

[@donr62]

@@WildTouringgood luck with that because if you have a problem with the Cruiser attributable to weights and loads e.g., engine or transmission issue, Toyota will wash their hands of it and Pedders won’t care.

[@rob7385]

Let’s face it most aftermarket mods like this void almost all warranties and if they don’t technically they will run you round and tie up so much of your time and cash most people would run out of finances. Pedders might replace there broken/failed parts but they ain’t Ganna fix no further issues with the car- ie chassis/ body mounts! And Toyota will blame pedders and the cars owner! Seen things like this happen before with vehicles that live and work in harsh environments!

[@billramsey800]

Hi cam if max Gcm is 6750, then Gvm 3440 + 3100 Atm = 6540 Gcm that would be 210 under would this be correct? Just had rear springs and air bags added to my new y62 by pedders cannington, great service from the team.

[@WildTouring]

Hey Bill, the 3440 GVM included the 260kgs of ball weight because the van was on when it was weighed, so you’re adding that ball weight twice in your calc. So in this instance with the van on the back; GVM (3180+ 260 TBM) + GTM (2840) = GCM (6280). If the van WASNT on the back and I weighed both separately it would look like this; GVM (3180) + ATM (GTM 2840 + TBM 260) = GCM (6280) Glad they looked after you, such a good team there!

[@billramsey800]

Thanks for that 👍

[@ozm109]

Love the vids, it would be nice to show people on a Tandem van how much difference the height of the tow ball makes to the toe ball weight. Higher the ball the more weight on the tow ball. Nice to keep the van level and the axel weights even on the van..😊

[@jackturtle131]

G'day guys maybe you can help me out with the weights as stated : Does a GVM upgrade increase GCM? As stated above, the GVM upgrade will not increase your GCM. This means that should you reach the new maximum weight, your towing capacity will drop as you have essentially shifted the weight from the potential caravan or trailer to the vehicle itself.4 Aug 2023 ----------- What is the answer I'm buggered to understand it

[@WildTouring]

Just means that the GCM value doesn’t change, so if you put more weight in the vehicle you’re reducing how much you can tow. Doesn’t mean that the upgrade itself reduces what you can tow. Hope that makes sense.

[@allthegearnoideaoverland]

Makes you wonder why they dont have an option from factory to upgrade everything.

[@WildTouring]

With the price and lead times at the moment, I don’t think they would ever need to take it on! Having said that, Ineos Grenadier do some pretty cool accessories/ mods from factory’s

[@Sabumnim666]

I find it interesting you mention being legal when referring to tow ball weight there is no legal tow ball weight apart from when you exceed the limit. the other point on this is that due to a tow vehicle over hang you need to calculate the real allowable weight. So even though you have 350kg allowed the overhang calculation reduces this to a value usually very close to 300Kg. Robert Pepper has a great explanation on this.

[@WildTouring]

350kg is the maximum ball weight for the vehicle. 8-12% TBM is the generally agreed upon recommendation.

[@Sabumnim666]

Yep so I guess it was glitch when you said be legal. @@WildTouring

[@Gorosanne]

U look like my partner with our new stereo I installed in the 08 triton. I yelled at him stop playing with the screens just damn listen. Our weight on tow ball the man who came to weigh our viscount said it was the lightess tow ball weight ever. I think it was like 100kg. Reason we moved tool box to the front

[@huffyharding7252]

Love your content, but I must say it's Chicken Parma........

[@WildTouring]

No way! 🤣

[@bobguthrie9505]

Wrong!! the LC300 GVM is NOT 3440kg it is 3280kg. The GVM is NOT the sum of the two maximum axle weights, it IS instead what Toyota specifies. While the front max is 1500 and the rear 1930 (not 1940), you can't load both to the max at the same time.

[@WildTouring]

My car weighed 3440kg, 160kg over factory GVM (3280kg). I’ve explained it all in the video, assuming the comment was before finishing it?

[@RealHooksy]

Never tow a van / trailer heavier than the vehicle you’re towing it with.

[@WildTouring]

Cars heavier than the caravan 👍🏼

[@rob7385]

Tail waging the dog😉

[@slalomking]

In the states, 5th wheel campers can weigh 15,000 lbs (6803 kg) camper trailers towed by a one ton Ram (formerly Dodge)truck that may weigh 6953 lbs (3153) kg. So tow vehicle weight can be less than camper.

[@RealHooksy]

@@slalomking I’m talking about Pig trailers. Ie: ones with wheels in the middle. Tail wagging the dog. 5th wheelers are different

[@greggenge481]

Hi Cameron & Tiff. Sorry to vent here but i just need to. Please stop the comparison with the D'max and the 300. It is no where near "apples with apples". Have followed/subscribed for ages and bought merch and really like your vids and will look forward to more. Happy travels.

[@WildTouring]

Apologies Greg, that’s fair! It’s hard not to compare when it’s the only two cars we’ve known over the last 8 years and it’s a question we are asked a lot as well - but like you say they are very different beasts! Thanks for the support over the years, really do appreciate it! 🙂

[@paultoohey9044]

Weights - only way to do it is fully loaded! Lets you know the worst case scenario

[@annettehewitson6426]

Around barbecue,the talk about towing a van,the van are bigger and the d,max land cruiser,are not fit to tow these van,3 ton just about empty van,then you add your shit what you put in,price for a land cruiser,for the price go buy a 4x4 truck Isuzu for towing,price twin cab,anyway that the barbecue topic,it about time ,,some of the 4x4 goo roo on you tube start to test trucks and large van,it only the family man and kids that doing or the testing,good video.

[@MissSlasher9890]

🧀🧀🧀

[@raybourne5781]

I’ll never understand how you can legally allow your car to carry all this extra weight…. But eh…. Let’s not think about the brakes on stopping all this extra weight…. Let alone other items…. Somebody has obviously talked / paid into some government department and spoke the same voodoo language!

[@WildTouring]

On this kit there was an optional brake upgrade, which I didn’t go with because I have a bigger brake overhaul planned. Agree with you though, throwing heaps of weight at it is great, but have to be able to pull it all up!!!!