Wiley explains his thoughts & feelings towards Central Cee ..

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Lucasdirty sits down with the Godfather to discuss being censored, his media experiences, Kyrie Irving, how his MBE is meaningless, his passion & loyalty to Grime, not regretting making 'pop music', Central Cee + more ..
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[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

People really don't understand the depth of Wiley's knowledge, graft and craft. Man deserves respect!!

[@T.T7934]

✅

[@Silkroads733]

No he just try’s to act like ye

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

@@Silkroads733 1000s of hours on pirate radio, countless hours in studio producing and writing, endless performances at raves isn't acting. People are quick to dismiss it.

[@Silkroads733]

@@TakeMeBackPirateRadio point taken, but you also should be aware that many in the music biz are also driven by their egos, and the money they are making..making money is not a bad thing but as we know folks sell their souls for money..the music that lots of artists and producers make is a strong influence in the minds of the upcoming youth..to say some grime hasn’t been negative and cause youth to fight and all other negative behaviour would be untrue..when people think they are great they can also start to look down on others and think they are superior.. specially men when girls start throwing themselves at them..my theory is people like ye exaggerate their crazy behaviour because it can be look on as cool..if you know about hip hop it’s always been a neash in the market to act like your ill...I think Wiley puts his off key behaviour on ..British kids have always try to copy USA artists it’s what we all do either way as humans take bits and pieces from people we think are cool..so I’ve most probably contradicted myself a little but who gives a damm....I’m human

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

​@@Silkroads733 There is not a single artist in the modern world who doesn't have an ego or isn't fuelled by money. Music and artists are products of their societies and they either mirror that and reflect the truth or they're propped up like dollies to sell a lifestyle or ideals to the masses. There's this misconception about Grime, the UK and music. I'd start in saying American influences resonate across all corners of globe as an economic and political drive to expand markets and as tool of software power whereby people are manipulated to think and behave in ways that serve corporations and suit power structures. Getting to the crux of it, there's inability to see the UK in a historical sense as a colonial power that spread English language, colonised the Americas and the West Indies, creating cultures that interlinked between cities. Caribbean culture influenced Hip Hop, Jungle, Grime and many genres. The Caribbean communities across the diaspora from Toronto, London, Bristol, Kingston...all share aspects of culture. Although it is seen purely as American, the Americans fail to see how Sound System culture influenced Hip Hop and their culture. Now getting on to Wiley, he was ghetto youth who had a hard life, he sold drugs, was sliced across his face by drug-lords and was all about the life he spoke about, it wasn't an illusion or false reality. East London and Bow where Wiley is from is one of the most socially economically deprived areas in the UK if not Europe, it was the home of the Kray Twins Eastend gangsta who were connected to the Irish and Italian Mafia in US. Not to mention the level racism faced by Wiley's generation in the Eastend where the Nation Front/BNP beat Black and Asian youth. East London has high level gun crime, drug problems, unemployment, and illiteracy, its youth are destitute and have limited prospects, especially with the Caribbean community. Someone like Wiley was inspiration to those young people growing up.

[@mpoweredfilms2456]

“LOOKING LIKE” The Biggest 💎 of the whole interview

[@NSUS1]

Yes mannn

[@thatladfromsheffield]

"OBLONG" for me

[@geebee1191]

This is why wiley has been responsible for so many careers. Like him or hate him, you've got to respect him as an artist. Grime wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Wiley he talks like he wasn't a part of the scene

[@stephens2322]

Lets be accurate. Without Wiley, grime wouldn't have gotten as big as it did. But. Grime existed when Wiley was still making garage.

[@geebee1191]

@Stephen S yes totally agree 👍 fair point.

[@scottowldn8239]

Wiley’s looking at my man like “You’re chatting Shit Bruv” soon as he started talking about Central Cee 😂😂😂

[@the_re_up]

I think the dj was hella off with the giggs one. Giggs isn’t at the heights he once was even as a uk artist. After wamp 2 dem he hasn’t had a big album since then. Right now he hangs onto his flowers purely because of his legacy and love that he has from the streets. But your mad if you think a bunch of US teens are gonna start queuing to listen to a giggs concert

[@a1up839]

This

[@truthhurts8924]

Gigs is well over rated imo. Just ryhmes random words.

[@anubis8918]

@@truthhurts8924 agree completely. He's whack

[@mroberts9697]

@@truthhurts8924 tell me your 15 without telling me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@eltonchitowamombe3474]

Bruv Wiley engineered a whole entire genre😂

[@empirewindrush3667]

And Cench is doing better than he did. Facts.

[@c1up217]

@@empirewindrush3667 how when wiley made his career possible 🤔

[@Nainocard]

@@empirewindrush3667 You're a child and only thinks "Making it in America" is the best thing for any Music Artist. 3T (Michael Jackson's nephews) never made it in their own country, but did well overseas. Soul II Soul, Loose Ends and Floetry did very well in America, but all you lot know is whether Music Artists from the U.K. do well in genres made in the U.S. smh.

[@Adam-g-uk]

@@c1up217 and if it wasn't for jungle/dnb, grime probably would've never been made...

[@ShitpostMoodboard]

Wiley has matured. I know he would've been hating during this entire convo a few years ago. He has a deep history of bigging up and putting artists on then later resenting them

[@bobbydeazy]

He was still hating 😆

[@the_re_up]

“its looking like” is a very huge point made by wiley. The DJ is really showing that his knowledge is based of social media. Wileys so right, ‘it looks like’ is verrrry different from ‘it is’ people really just dont understand how BIG america is, there is never a thing as conquering america when you not from there. When u see a US artist blow understand they tend to have a whole STATE backing them! California alone is 39 million whilst the whole of the Uk is 70 million….london is is like 9 million people!! You can’t think just because doja cat gets millions of youtube views / had a few interviews , then a man has cracked america. Trust me a US person will never ride with a uk artist over a us one. The cultures are too different

[@jamafrican657]

Harry styles lol

[@desiredrapfilms]

Ed Sheeran has entered the chat

[@PrezzyLloyd]

Never knew Ed & Harry were uk rappers😮

[@jamafrican657]

@@PrezzyLloyd “trust me a U.S. person will never ride with a U.K. artist over a U.S. one”. I was just responding to what he had actually written.

[@troylenoble6937]

we’re obviously talking rap, come on. Every man and his dog the world over knows Adele, Ed Sheeran and them types 🙄

[@KiddRoss]

I completely agree. I’m a DJ & producer and I play in Las Vegas. I’m from Manchester, and I’ve played in America for a good few years now but there is a huge language barrier. After all the time spent there, there is still misinterpretation in conversations and it’s so easily done because we are where we are from. Slang, or general conversation it doesn’t digested like it would be back home in the uk.

[@nordstrandmusicinternation9518]

Just speak English without slang then mate. Language barrier ? We speak the same fucking language lmao. So just use proper English with English words instead of ‘wag wan fam yeah ya dun know calm safe’ like most degenerates in England 😂

[@forsakenbanksy1269]

Wiley represents the growth you want to see for all the road man that struggled to learn and be in those boring class rooms of curriculums & schools.

[@kayflip2233]

Wiley knows exactly what's going on. It's no different than how New York used to dominate hip hop in the 90s and back then no one was trying to hear rappers from other states because everyone from California to Illinois was trying to sound like New York. It's not until places like Atlanta came out with their own unique sound and took over the mainstream that the New York dominance ended. LA, Chicago, Miami, Philly, Toronto also added their own sounds later on. The consistent theme being that all of these regions developed their OWN sound that sounded like nowhere else. Innovators get the fans and recognition. If you're just a copycat from somewhere else, you won't get anywhere. London used to have that 90s boom bap sound like New York back in the early days and they didn't blow up. You need to do your own thing and sound original. Wiley is correct, it's pointless making an attempt to cross over to the US. You don't understand the American psyche if you think you're going to convince mostly Black Americans who barely know where Europe is on the map to try to like something foreign sounding. The only reason Canadian artists get accepted in America is because their accents are so similar. This is only for urban music, White people in America are far more open minded, that's why British rock, rnb or pop music blows up globally including in America. It's the Black audience that doesn't like foreign sounding accents for their genre of music.

[@hakshustletv]

Wiley 100% has a valid point. Central Cee has been killing it and is arguably that guy in the UK right now but even then, guys like Lil Baby or a Meek Mill can come to the UK and they'll still be looked at as the top dogs while they're here, everyone is going to run to their shows, play their music etc... Central Cee in the U.S is almost just a very successful rapper from the UK whereas an artist like Lil Baby is a successful rapper period when he steps over here. The same level of impact a Lil Baby would have over here, CC isn't necessarily going to be on that level in the US. Maybe someday he will but right now he isn't one of those, Drake comes over here he can pretty much take over the city, CC, Skepta or even Giggs goes over there they're just another great and successful artist from a different part of the world at this moment and time. For us, because we're here it looks bigger and better than it actually is & when I've been over there CC does have fans, they seem to bring up CC, Skepta or Giggs if you're from the UK but for the most part, no one from the UK is the equivalent in the US to any of the top US artists coming over here.

[@empirewindrush3667]

Coming from such a small island (uk) and making waves across America you need to applaud Cench. He's known across a good few states, and into Canada, it hurts for Wiley to properly respect this kids grind.

[@FarhanAli-go4ck]

Do you get paid to write paragraph’s

[@hakshustletv]

@@empirewindrush3667 I think you're misunderstanding what Wiley is saying, he isn't discrediting Cench, he isn't even saying he isn't known. He's saying people knowing you and fully bussing in the states are two different things. You can take Drake, Meek or Lil Baby for example, if they come over here they're that guy while they're here, you have a lot of our top artists damn near turning into little bro. If our top artists go over to the states, they're just another successful international rapper that's successful at home but they're not necessarily going to rub shoulders with the biggest and best talent there, they're not shutting down cities and having everyone come out. When Meek or Drake for example comes out here, everybody with a name is pulling up and fans are flooding the shows, streets and after parties.

[@hakshustletv]

@@FarhanAli-go4ck I'll keep it official, you don't have to read a thing, keep it moving.

[@DeterminedFC]

Lol nah brudda that's your perception cah u you see dem man on a pedestal..

[@darrenjohnson1129]

Wiley is right about the perception of 'bussin America', it usually comes with a level of conforming, especially when it's rap. Possibly only giggs kept it authentic. Maybe a couple others, but they get overlooked for it

[@KarlNova]

Tinie Tempah “Written in the stars” went platinum (a million sold before streaming was popular and the main way music is consumed) in the USA in March 2011 was used in wrestlemania, Super Bowl, Major League Baseball, Miss USA 2011. It peaked at No 12 on billboard 100 (probably the highest charting uk rap song from a solo artist ever in the US people forget this conveniently) Skepta & Asap Rocky “praise the Lord” went double platinum (sales + streaming) in 2018 and peaked at No. 45 on billboard 100 Slick Rick born in London moved to NYC (The Bronx) when he was 11 so he was never seen as a UK rapper although it made his flow sound so unique (a blend of NYC And British) and most thought it was just an act he put on. Hip Hop legend MF DOOM born in London, moved to NYC as a child and says he has no memory of his London life, it never came out in his flow, he sounded American and many don’t know he’s British ‘til this day (R.I.P.) 21 Savage born in London and moved to the USA at age 7. He isn’t seen, doesn’t sound like and isn’t marketed as a UK rapper. You already know.

[@brianmurphy4347]

Peaked 45 on the billboard?! Thought that got top 20?!

[@KarlNova]

@@brianmurphy4347according to the billboard chart website it was on the chart for 8 weeks and peaked at 45. It didn’t go higher.

[@thetrickisirarelyrespond5945]

Doom does carry through certain intonation but you have to be dialled in to recognise it. It isn't Slick Rick level,clearly, but "..the grimey limey..." definitely has faint traces of LDN in the voice (and clues in the bars)

[@wolfharthiphop]

The British have taken every single genre of American music and successfully exported it back to them with rap music being the ONLY exception... Let that really sink in. England has produced mega superstars like Amy Winehouse, Adelle, The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton... the list is endless. They haven't ever produced one rapper who has ever even come close to cracking America. Wiley is right. The Yanks just do not care for British rap music. The British have been rapping for decades... If it was possible for a British rapper to crack America, it would have happened by now.

[@JYGtube]

I think it’s the same as Wiley said, it’s the accent and lingo barrier. When it’s pop or a multitude of other genres, the English accent is more palatable on a larger scale and when it comes to singing there are different ways of enunciating words that can make it sound more smooth. Problem is with rap is that a lot of it is ingrained within lyricism and punchlines both of which are heavily influenced by regional nuances in language. Even flows are impacted a lot because even in the UK alone you have lots of different regions that typically speak at slightly different speeds, some accents sound lazy others upbeat.

[@JYGtube]

…don’t agree with your last sentence though, there are a lot of different barriers being broken down musically in this generation specifically, plenty of people are more open to checking out different sounds from more countries especially with the introduction of streaming and social media.

[@kayflip2233]

This is exactly correct. The reason being that Black Americans are the most insular Americans. They barely leave their state, let alone their country. Their world exists only in the hood amongst people that look and behave like them and share the same interests. This is partially due to then being marginalized in American society. The only successful Brit that actually sang in a British accent that was embraced by Black Americans was the legendary Sade.

[@Uhhhhhhhmmmm]

Cench is/has gone clear as the biggest UK rap etc related artist. The numbers on videos, his social media platforms etc etc are crazy. He gets love in so many countries too, but I agree with Wiley, nobody will probably truly ever 'buss up' the American scene. Unless like he said they switch up their accents.

[@Uhhhhhhhmmmm]

@@mroberts9697 Speaking facts tbh, only competition is Stormzy.

[@Joe-uv9jo]

You can't include Central Cee in the genre of drill or grime. Especially grime, he has never ever made one grime song tf.

[@Uhhhhhhhmmmm]

@@Joe-uv9jo bad wording that I meant to edit, I meant overall across all 3 genres. Probably should’ve just put UK rap.

[@Unholygamewinner]

I think they could. Eventually. If one guy strings it together right it could work. It’s true the accent makes it waaay harder but ppl like Central Cee break down that barrier. We’re all so obsessed w breaking America CC doing well all over the map too so I’m not worried either way

[@thementor1180]

The management and the money they put in are much more important. Central Cee has nothing special about him musically but, its about attention now. The industry has changed

[@kernalization]

You speak well

[@StaceyFoxx]

BOOM

[@Overyvonne]

It’s true central cee is at a high level of fame but his music isn’t revolutionary or really that special he sounds pretty much like any other standard drill artist. He has an amazing team and all of their work combined is really paying off

[@wgcHERTS]

Wiley speaking pure facts again👊🏻

[@JBulla2539]

Just because a UK artist's label want to back a US tour doesnt mean they gonna blow up over there

[@elizabethedwards3607]

I love wiley...I would love to have a conversation with him about music, life etc.

[@thevoice246]

people overlook the underground uk hip hop scene. The Four Owls working with DJ Premier is a big collaboration and an organic link up

[@qwerty64ish]

Such a tune as well

[@Barney-ii1no]

@@qwerty64ish any underground scene is going to be inherently overlooked, when underground artist do get bigger you get the whole, ''He's sold out'' schtick

[@TYLOTYLOTYLO]

Bottom line is… you ain’t making it in the US comparatively to your peers in America. Like Central Cee isn’t about to go sell out MSG with his 27million monthly listeners. But you can be damn sure that Cardi B, J Cole, Lil Uzi could and probably already have while they currently have about the same monthly listeners.

[@TYLOTYLOTYLO]

The only people that have come close have been bands, solo singers (like Adele) who have made an absolute scene in the states and continued to sell records for years after their releases

[@kayflip2233]

@@TYLOTYLOTYLO Sade is the only one that successfully crossed over to the US singing in a British accent. Can't deny her voice and soul. If you're talking about Adele and other non urban UK artists, tons of them crossed over from the Beatles to Coldplay. It's the Black American audience that doesn't want to hear non American accents.

[@isaacnewton3514]

It’s purely for one reason and that’s Drake bringing in a telescope to UK, Wiley’s era never had that

[@peterconnolly202]

salute lucas keep grindin my bro

[@deepaulie8701]

This is the clearest, calmest interview I have seen Wiley on in a long time. Is he under new management?

[@rmanS2C]

Uninformed interviewers can be frustrating. Well done on getting the interview but please do not argue for arguments sake. Central Cee has not buss in America. He has had one catchy but gimmicky song that due to tik tok has crossed over but to say soccer mums have heard it is an outright lie.

[@EjnrTV]

Central Cee has the best chance in bussin in America for a short period of time. His image suits America, He raps, he’s racially ambiguous, he has a fashion sense similar/same as the Hiphop community over in America, he’s able to create a lil shock value with his witty, catchy & controversial lyrics. People will buy into his brand for sure. He blends in easily. His accent is the only thing separating him and this could work in his favour to make him stand out

[@spamfood9971]

What makes them controversial? You sound like a little snowflake. There wasn’t anything controversial about his lyrics 😂😂😂

[@kayflip2233]

Nah bro. I'm American, you give us too much credit. You have to understand the American psyche - the world doesn't even exist beyond American borders. Maybe 50% of Americans can point out where the UK is on a map. If you're talking about African Americans, they are even more insular than White Americans and barely even leave their state, let alone the country. Central Cee isn't going to blow up in the US simply because hood Black people only want to hear music that sounds like them and that they can relate to. If you think Black people in the hood are going to want to hear about waps, doing road, Shepard's Bush, chingings etc you're out of your mind. It's not even on their wave length. Also, the African American women especially aren't trying to hear any of that. They don't even know what the hell any of that stuff is. You gotta appeal to the women too to really blow up in America.

[@TeeTee-qr1vs]

Central Cee looks American he fits in with their energy and he’s style although he’s British.

[@kayflip2233]

Nah dude, lol. Americans aren't trying to hear foreign accents or slang. It will just not work.

[@Joshamon1]

Skepta has toured in the USA and is definitely more of a known name there than Central Cee. Cee may have one song that blew up thanks to tik tok but people forget about these songs quickly once something else comes along

[@kayflip2233]

Skepta doesn't have any mainstream presence in America. I'm American and no one listens to him and he's not on the radio. Ella Mai, yes. Adele, yes. Coldplay, yes. Not Skepta or any UK rapper. That's just how it is. Black hood people are the most insular Americans, they only want to hear American accents and topics.

[@radical3072]

and why did the one song become a success? because the producers sampled a track everybody knows…

[@natty2dred331]

Wiley is the inventor of grime the architect of Eskimo he is grime artist central Cee is Drill/Rap how did you confuse the two artists is beyond me. Literally

[@TonyMontana-zl8pz]

Before wiley there was no urban music, drill rap etc are just grandchildren of what wiley n co started, lord of the mics all them guys are the origin

[@Rai_S82]

@Tony Montana No urban music?! Wiley, Dizzee, Skepta and loads of those boys will tell you that they were inspired by the jungle/dnb boys! That's also 'urban' music.

[@bifftannenskids5591]

@Rai S just wait till they find out Wiley started as a Jungle Mc ...🤯🤯

[@naomis5613]

The Interviewer is just throwing words and Wiley is calling him out time and time again 😂😂

[@southwestkinema9149]

Wiley is right! Central Cee is not "big" in America. He's big on KZbin. Two totally different things LOL

[@empirewindrush3667]

Big enough for Travis Scott to acknowledge him, Lil Durk, and that's just two of the biggest artist state side, also getting personal invite from Drake to go his NYE party, lol, hmmm yeah not that well known or big over there. 😂😂

[@empirewindrush3667]

Keep denying the fact Cench is blowing bigger than any other UK artist. Lol

[@rentfreeinheads8995]

So Americans don’t watch KZbin 😂

[@arvaelvision]

Central cee is a popstar plain and simple. 🤣

[@empirewindrush3667]

Yeah he's done what nobody has done before him. He made urban music POPular. Don't get it twisted. He made them listen.

[@arvaelvision]

@@empirewindrush3667 🤭🤣 what you waffling on about 🤦🏾‍♂️ You’re not very astute if you still don’t understand “they” make popular whatever or whoever they want, for whatever reason. They need a puppet and he’s the latest. He’s a popstar, and they make him popular. The algorithm isn’t here to benefit us mere commoners, it’s for the show they’ve put on😐

[@87shots]

@ARVAEL VISION Lol you're so deep 😂 Cench is killing it plain and simple, if you can't see that then head to specsavers

[@87shots]

@Empire Windrush 💯

[@arvaelvision]

@@87shots man said cench is killin it 🤭

[@prodjedi]

Wiley knows what he’s saying about the “looking like” point. Central is looking like he can crack America. Him actually doing so is a different point tho. Also to say it’s his management over him is a bit of an insult to him.

[@hakshustletv]

I agree with Wiley in that sense, what it looks like isn't necessarily what it is. As for the management thing, I'll be real, CC's management are crazy, I 100% get this guys point, I think Central is a great talent and carved out his own lane, has avoided most of the bs too when he could've easily gotten dragged into bs but in this scenario, I would say at the very least it's a 50/50 dynamic when it comes to importance, I would even go as far as saying his management are really the driving force. Right now, I'm not sure if there's better, people will never truly understand what they've done unless they're behind the scenes.

[@Vat6ré]

He’s right tho,management is ninety percent of music nowadays,an cench does not have a unique enough sound or character or story to say it’s him over marketing,his whole thing is marketing

[@dfworld731]

This was a phenomenal watch

[@Simiiiyah]

Love this for you Luke!!! ❤

[@tgowl4743]

Wiley cat is a legend…when big bro speaks man fi listen…😂😎💯

[@leonjulytv]

"It's looking like"... 👌🏾 " so that song Bust America?" 🤣

[@maea344]

Wiley is just on another level ... Experience Trumps Opinion... Wiley has alot of Experience..

[@NK-vd8xi]

Wiley is the wisest waffler in the UK. He has so much wisdom but he can't stop himself from just waffling.

[@iamlinxx_]

Estelle and Craig David both broke through in the US winning grammys I believe. But I think Wiley maybe exclusively referring to rappers and grime.

[@kayflip2233]

Thats rnb though, they're not rapping. Also Estelle was never big in the US. Craig David was but he puts on an American accent when he sings. Ella Mai is another example, huge in the US but sounds 100% American when she sings. Sade is a good example of a global rnb legend, but I'd argue her music is more adult contemporary than urban rnb. She is soulful but also very mainstream. But she definitely doesn't put on an American accent yet is still undeniably legendary in America. UK music outside of rap has always been global since the beatles. We're talking about hip hop here. The Black, urban audience in America only wants to hear American accents and topics. They'll never change.

[@Jessicaisawakenow]

Dave and Headie One because of their talent and Drakes co-sign was massive here in the u.s. to hip hop heads

[@A1un9ine]

i think what Wiley should've said was, its all about audience targeting with today's rappers. this generation doesn't care about talent and they like vibes songs and that they can't accept the fact that Wiley, Giggs and older artists here in the UK are all the best out of the UK but here comes a point between old and original and new and repetitive and the rappers in america, they would highly likely collaborate with artist like Digga d, Russ or central cee because the new generation audience is more lean to new beats or gibberish in-eloquent wordplay and streaming numbers are all in the hands of those audience and rappers which makes original rappers like Wiley cant compete in the market.

[@AcesizOfficial]

Central Cee is arguably UK's biggest artist rn

[@Barney-ii1no]

thats pretty sad really

[@scottowldn8239]

Exactly RN!!! Next year we won’t remember him just like Aitch & Ardee and all the rest.

[@manzg1]

arguably? it’s clear and it’ll be like that for a long time😂

[@AcesizOfficial]

@@manzg1 don’t forget there’s Giggs #TheLandLord

[@manzg1]

@@AcesizOfficial big up giggs but there’s literally no comparison

[@user-up1yh4ib3z]

Wiley starts bigging someone up then gets jealous mid-rant and changes his mind lmao

[@dankbudwoi871]

This interviewer is not on wileys wavelength at all

[@AE-on9il]

banger interview

[@Noname88184]

Big up Wiley real og

[@joederoeper2156]

Wiley was ready to dip by the end 😆

[@vincefree]

skepta is hella respected in the US and is doing numbers there now

[@hakshustletv]

Skepta is well-respected in the industry period but he isn't really doing numbers there. We still haven't got a Lil Baby or Drake equivalent in the UK. Think of it like this, when Drake, Meek or a Lil Baby comes over to the UK, they can shut everything down, everyone is going to go out to see them, listen to their music etc... no one in the UK is going to any city in the US and having the same effect. They're big over here but when they hit the states, they don't really brush shoulders with any of the bigger name-talent, whereas the top artists in US can come over here and you'll quickly notice a lot of the big talent here damn near look like lil bro.

[@Fifabeast389]

@@hakshustletv no rapper in the world is having an impact like Drake or Baby. Why are you comparing to the very very top? Every rapper in the world will fall short. There’s plenty of successful US rappers that don’t take over the UK

[@andrewstockton9397]

Baby is shite nothing original

[@hakshustletv]

@@Fifabeast389 You're missing the point, their most successful rappers can come over here and take over cities. They'll become those guys while they're here, even someone on a lesser scale, they'll be able to bring out everyone with a name, fans will flood the shows at the biggest venues and pay top price, they'll flood the streets, try to follow them or track them down to after parties, we've seen this with guys like Drake & Meek. On the other hand, our very biggest artists can't go other there and do the same thing, they won't be in the conversation or rub shoulders with the biggest artists there in terms of who's making things move right now. Everyone isn't coming out to see them. We hold US artists on a higher pedestal and embrace them more than we do our own, on the flip side, US fans don't treat our artists the same. Lil Baby can come over here and outsell anyone, strictly in the UK, you'd need Dave, Cench & maybe Tion Wayne combined doing a show to try and convince people to choose that over seeing Lil Baby by himself In the states bring our top 6 biggest rappers, no one is going to choose to see them over even someone like A Boogie.

[@hakshustletv]

@Juru I don't disagree, but the point is no one says Drake is the x of Canada or the US, they just say he's Drake everywhere, no one from the UK has reached the level to where they can say they're huge everywhere. The same level that Cench is in the UK, once you move him to somewhere like the states, he's no longer that guy not even close. Move Drake from the US to UK and his status and influence is arguably even greater, the competition drops drastically. I'm willing to bet, if you brought Drake over here for a show to do on his own and had another show on the same day where it was Skepta, Dave, Cench, Tion Wayne all doing the same show, Drake still outsells them, people will pick to go and see Drake by himself vs that crazy headline I just picked, take the same guys I mentioned & drop them in the states, you'll need at least another 6+ artists on top to make it competitive because their status drops drastically compared to Drake in the states. The point being someone like Cench is popping but his status is high here and I would argue he's at the top of the game in the UK right now, but once he goes to the states his status drastically falls and he isn't in that conversation with the top guys there.

[@Blowing0s]

Ed Sheeran?!

[@brummieboi]

Wiley such a G 💯

[@DOKITT]

The idea that Central Cee is going to be big in America is laughable.

[@imani828]

Wiley waflfling for 10 mins straight

[@dezw6485]

All old uncles waffle init 😬 back in my day yeah

[@cashholda74]

The British accent in rap is unbearable

[@cactusmac666]

Centrel Cee is an example of brilliant management and marketing, but he's a fad. Objectively, he's not a good rapper, and there's only so long his "look" will carry him for. Once his core fanbase grows out of their teens and wants something of substance, hes finished. He's the UK Lil Pump.

[@empirewindrush3667]

Wrong. Keep watching.

[@Kaine1111]

You aint gotta clue what a 🤡

[@87shots]

oh boy 😂

[@Barney-ii1no]

100%, his sell by date is going to ware off by the end of this year, as soon as the vibe changes he wont be able to adapt

[@Kaine1111]

@@Barney-ii1no delusional 🤡

[@Jessicaisawakenow]

My daughters who are 20 and 27 stay bumping Fredo Digga D and Central Cee from the u.k. ....sometimes it catches me off guard when I hear the u.k. accent...but other artists in the states are always playing Fredo heavy on their lives

[@mountainman6172]

See Clear Now is my favourite album CLASSIC

[@JW-db8bz]

Willy's wisdom is just slept on. I think if you're intelligent you can take in what he says and get his points completely. If you're not too bright you won't understand Wiley at all. His understanding of UK rap/grime music is #1. Only thing I disagree with is a UK artist success shouldn't be matching US top artists, the bar is very different.

[@thehoneyeffect]

Trip Hop, Jungle, Garage, the first wave of Grime all did not buss America. They all happened before social media was huge. Many Americans did not even know that Black people existed in the UK or any of our history for the longest time, let alone being aware of Black British Jamaican enthused culture....so its hard to make any of that buss in America. M.I.A. has her English accent, shes the only artist that I can think of that is remotely related to 'rap' from England, who has buss America and other countries on earth at any point. Its a shame that no one Black has been able to do it. Lil Simz might buss, as the best MC I can think of in the UK, itd be amazing if she did it but is it still even as important to 'buss America' anyway? The internet is changing which Black culture gets to be the most dominant, slowly eg. Afrobeats is a good example, as the Black British African population increases. Jamaican British men are unwittingly kind of socialising themselves into irrelevance with having whiter and whiter children (no shade to Mixed Race people), to the point where Jamaican culture is no longer such a dominant force of influence in the UK (its still globally influential though obviously). I digress Brazil is coming up, I see though. I digress again

[@kayflip2233]

Sade is a better example than MIA. No people in the hood in America are listening to MIA but old African Americans love Sade even with her British accent.

[@e.o.a101]

Wiley's right, if he goes to the USA, he would have to sound American (twang)....most Americans don't really understand British accents..especially the London slang.

[@narranradd908]

I found wiley and the uk grime scene like 7 years ago. Im in the north east of the states. And i gotta tell you those tapes with wiley steps 1 threw 21 are very slept on. From a far views wise and what have you. What im saying is id like to see more collaboration between uk and american artist's

[@nba5130]

bro kno a thing or 2 he gave us *Chip* that’s all I’m gone say 🙏🏿

[@M360-w6o]

Slick Rick still had a British accent

[@drk_fi]

Wiley is right 👍🏼

[@e.o.a101]

Central Cee ain't as big as the big American artists...that's what Wiley's trying to say.

[@mubasharshaikh1207]

Wiley is the joe budden of the uk

[@bradstocker1717]

@7:50 "SOCCER MUMS" lol!!!

[@bigsmokeweiler8941]

Absolutely love wiley! He really is the god father of grime! Any time he clashes/beefs with people I always feel like he destroys them too! 😂 😂 My opinion

[@Countduk005]

Wiley needs to Collab with Ludacris!! It's like the same Booming voice in another accent !

[@tom.eb._9458]

looking healthy. hopefully off the rock.

[@one-day-at-a-time4134]

Was just thinking same, (in the most respectful way obviously) i've always rooted for Wiley to get his shi together, he's an intelligent and talented guy, just needs to keep on the straight and narrow.

[@tom.eb._9458]

@@one-day-at-a-time4134 true that g, no one wants to see a legend of the game like that

[@one-day-at-a-time4134]

@@tom.eb._9458 Just had a nosey at your channel, from one music lover and pianist/keyboardist to another, keep doing your thing bro, respect ✊ Happy New Year 🤙🏼

[@matthardy7276]

Wiley is correct. The interviewer seems like he can't be honest with himself. UK MC's will never buss the US. One hit or a lil wave for 6 months isn't bussing the US

[@vincent-lr6io]

the host from the midlands?? i cant pin point his accent.. loved the interview

[@ironeyes82]

Average white boys blow up over Average black boys. It’s a marketing ting. White rap followers (kids) latch onto a fair skin rappers over darker skinned so more music is streamed/purchased. Too many Black rappers/MCs for fans to have only a few favourites. Not that many White rappers/mcs so nearly all are favourite and will blow up over black rappers.

[@penrythajanitor4644]

Everyone forgets Monie Love, and Marsha Ambrosius to a bit lesser extent...Slick Rick of course, MF Doom RIP...

[@kayflip2233]

All of them rapped or sang in American accents though. They're not valid examples. Wiley was talking about blowing up in America with a UK accent and UK sound. Sade is the only valid example of this. She is seen as a legend in America and embraced by Black Americans who are old enough to remember her.

[@penrythajanitor4644]

@@kayflip2233 fair call...I'd say Slick Rick had a Mid Atlantic accent but none of them sounded out and out British...You hear a lot of Americans saying that they find British rappers corny, Drake had a couple of collabos but then he's Canadian... Sade is just beautiful and classy with a beautiful voice, you can't deny her if you got ears full stop (or eyes for that matter)

[@kayflip2233]

@@penrythajanitor4644 Yeah, even Drake only blew up in the US because he raps and sings in an American accent. Real Canadian urban Black people sound and behave more like London urban people. The accents are different but slang and vibe is very similar because of the Jamaican influence in both countries. Notice Drake only started making songs like WAR and mentioned the 6ix until after he had already blown up. His first couple albums sounded like he was from Memphis, in fact he mentions Memphis or Houston more than his own hometown.

[@penrythajanitor4644]

@@kayflip2233 I'm going to be honest and say I never got into Drake, I didn't catch his early stuff and to me his later stuff was trash, I'm a greybeard though so my idea of hip hop might be different to the modern idea As for Canada I got that idea about Black Canadians having a similar flex to Black Britons, except they moan even more about the cold weather! As for me it's a place I always wanted to visit, my brother said it was like the good bits of the UK and the US without the shitty bits, which sounded good to me...

[@user-up1yh4ib3z]

Wiley needs to go and meet Kanye lmao, both geniuses in the studio but when they open their mouths it's just the funny farm

[@kayflip2233]

Wiley speaks facts. Also Slick Rick only became American in 2016, he was British when he was making his music in the 80s and 90s and doesn't even have an American accent. 21 Savage is not American at all and spoke with a British accent up until 12 years old. How can you call people American when they're not even citizens? Even if you grew up here, if you're here illegally and don't have citizenship you're not American. Try telling the border agents you're American with no passport or legal papers and they will deport you even if you have the deepest Southern drawl and sound like Dolly Parton.

[@vic7k]

The RnB guys have more success in the US Jay Sean had no1 hits with Nikki and Wayne was signed to cash money, Estelle smashed it in the US but rappers unfortunately don’t.

[@jamafrican657]

Stormzy can garner all of the record sells he likes. He’s a cardboard cut-out of an mc who used grime as a propellant for his escapades in the states. Central is a bit different because we’ve kinda bitten drill from America so his style is a lot more soluble within their scene. And yeah he’s an obvious plant, definitely agree with the strong management/weak artist paradox we face nowadays. All body work. No engine/chassis…

[@MrBath1985]

With reaction videos I think the language barrier is lowering and US understand the grime more now.

[@ruzzain9450]

Burna & Wiz setting pace over there 🇺🇸

[@MrRatty2002]

Slick Rick was 11 when he went to the States, of course hes gonna sound american....

[@MozzieMutant]

MF doom is another one as well

[@TulipaBigDipa]

He was British?????

[@gamewavelondon]

The only way I see to properly blow in the US is as a rat pack style a few of the top uk guys breaking down songs and slang between songs

[@FLYSTARTVLONDON]

Management has a huge influence in some careers

[@gregory7979]

He said no one "bust like a Jay z" That's not everybody if they're not like that in the UK it will not matter if they're in America if they're not like that overseas in other continents it won't matter if you're in America

[@coldworld5]

Slick Rick moved to America when he was 12. He’s got no business having an American accent. Also. Wiley is too much man.

[@AceMixes]

The American influence ruins them bro big up to Wiley a REAL UK GOAT 🐐! Not central cee

[@jahbizzlegamer2583]

This is why I love wiley people don’t understand how Americans act they stay clowning are slang and accents so you can never fully buss in rap and I mean like really blow and be just as successful as there rapper’s. singing different story as accents don’t really come out in singing and slang ain’t really used a lot in pop

[@sicksgrimes1905]

Wiley looks like he's not had no cocaina for once

[@yoyoyo479]

Wiley godfather !

[@johnjoe5860]

The Godfather of UK HIP HOP is RODNEY P! PERIOD! 💯

[@vic7k]

London posse all day

[@johnjoe5860]

@@vic7k FACTS!! 💯

[@Rai_S82]

RIDDIM KILLER!!! 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@suedenim6590]

You couldn't do it because you flopped your opportunity. Move along 👋

[@paullawson4736]

Estelle

[@kayflip2233]

wasn't big in the US at all.

[@paullawson4736]

@@kayflip2233 American boy.....Estelle and Kanye.....

[@kayflip2233]

@@paullawson4736 Like I said, Estelle was never big in America. Maybe in the UK but no one was playing that on the radio in the US. I'm from NYC.

[@danielnyirendaofficial]

Central C is not 2-3 years in the game btw.

[@empirewindrush3667]

He broke out in 2020. He's been rapping for 9 years. But got noticed 2020 so it is 2 years.

[@richgreen3459]

So glad I don't know central cee or the drip doing the interview, Wiley should link up with Ye asap. Real recognise real.

[@stevealder5206]

Trying his hardest to hold in the hate

[@neogirl37]

Only one who spoke up during covid, nuff respect!! All the others souls are bought & paid for by the establishment

[@m-c-g8841]

Sean Paul sold more than 50 Cent in America at some point .. Jamaican accent, Jamaican songs in America ..

[@kayflip2233]

Yeah but Sean Paul wasn't trying to sell an American genre of music back to America in a different accent. Also the audience in America that listens to reggae is different than the Southern / Midwest / Westcoast audience that makes up most of American rap fans. Sean Paul only sold 3 million records in the US, while 50 cent sold 17 million. It's just a small minority of people that listen to reggae in the US, mostly New Yorkers, people from Miami and other cities in the northeast that have large Caribbean populations. (NJ, Philly)