Will and 'Destiny' debate what it is to be American | Will Cain Show

Today's show...
🎙️ Story #1: A conversation and a debate about America with popular Streamer, KZbinr and Political Commentator Steven Bonnell II (AKA ‘@destiny')
🎙️ Story #2: The New York hush money trial against former President Donald Trump is turning out to be the biggest campaign advertisement in history. But will it be for the benefit of President Joe Biden or former President Donald Trump?
🎙️ Story #3: After being drafted number one overall in the WNBA draft, Caitlin Clark’s new salary has been revealed and people, like Pittsburgh Steelers’ QB Russell Wilson, don’t think it’s enough. Do WNBA players deserve more?
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[@AnimationWizard]

Destiny pulled me out of a right wing echo chamber and stopped me from falling into a left wing one by simultaneously criticizing the radical left.

[@Le10White]

Indicted we stand!

[@JupyWotan]

"I get my politics from online entertainers!"

[@rayshamrock]

Whew! So, you're almost a leftist?

[@TiredMage47]

Same here

[@braden7275]

The Daliban is strong

[@JP-Sphere]

Its CRAZY seeing Destiny grow like this

[@ANTIStraussian]

Hasan punching the air

[@psudoplays254]

​@ANTIStraussian while Mike punches the couch

[@demolazer]

He's legit hitting the big times

[@meijiishin5650]

The funniest part to me is that a while ago when Vaush/Hasan started going into their fortress arc, Destiny made a prediction that they've stunted themselves and he's gonna keep growing. Really funny to see it come true.

[@JonSnuh]

@meijiishin5650 Destiny plays an incredible long game. He never seems to compromise his long-term goals for short-term gains, and because of this, he is growing and thriving. Meanwhile characters like Vaush and Hasan are barely treading water.

[@Afelah.]

Def was about to say “work my way up to your moms house” but remembered he wasn’t on stream

[@poggersgotabigcodpgabc6224]

I was dying after I read this comment. I completely believe this.

[@drearmouse9510]

Ha! Truuuue. Suddenly reminded of all the times he's said, "No, wait, nevermind." and can't help but think they were all "your mom" jokes. xD

[@rohanjarande]

🤣🤣🤣

[@venom.gaming]

Truuuuue 🤣

[@SenseiTumbleweed]

I was thinking the same thing. Destiny has a certain cadence to his your mom jokes and it followed that cadence.

[@hubbabubba8083]

Destiny fan here! Never heard of Will Cain and he was actually exceptionally respectful and seems like a super cool dude. Love the conversation!

[@ANTIStraussian]

He almost bit through his cheek lol

[@actualnotanewbie]

Will Cain was on a fun addition to ESPN's First Take, I had no idea that he is on Fox News Radio now

[@ChiefBinChicken]

Same. I can see in his eyes there's some strong disagreements he'd have with Destiny, look forward to seeing these two go at it in a more heated format :p hopefully Will doesn't take the fighting personally though and hate Destiny, as so many people do...

[@rickrobbins1037]

​@actualnotanewbie he's a Fox and Friend weekend host

[@Bobbyblack6]

Same, Loved the adherence to the conversation. A lot of topics were brought up and a lot of conversation paths could have been followed but Will and Destiny both danced perfectly to stay on topic and follow a consistent, wholistic and constructive approach to the conversation. Would love to hear them talk again and get into the weeds of a singular topic.

[@Akcruiser2012]

Thanks for bringing Destiny on, please bring him back for more conversations during this year's election.

[@Boswd]

They actually have a nice, good flow with each other....

[@torunaga1927]

I can already tell that Destiny put on a good show. He's not as calm or "nice" to people as he trys to show on shows bugger than him.

[@TeddieYoutube]

@@torunaga1927 Yea because he wants to be invited back? this is good viewer ship and considering he wants to reach people this is how he acts.. Of course.

[@Boswd]

@@torunaga1927 IDK he and Jordan Peterson went at it pretty hard on some topics on Petersons show.. he and Cenk uyger also went at on piers morgan

[@vyvianalcott1681]

I really like how he engages with people, he's a really good listener so even if he's wrong or you disagree, you can convey that to him without him brushing it off. I respect Ben Shapiro for the same reason, I can't wait to see more conversations between those two.

[@kevinross6235]

Glad Destiny talks to a lot of people he disagrees with

[@EpsteinYouTubeemployees]

😂😂😂😂 Divorcetiny disagrees with everyone, he is a bottom feeding contrarian Neo-con.

[@michaelvanderwal7390]

By your own logic, he'd agree with neocons

[@woolzem]

​@EpsteinKZbinemployees you sound like a radical leftist which is not a compliment

[@OrionBlaze]

unlike Hassan

[@bigbaderek1978]

so fast...he was my favorite twitch streamer argueing with insane people 2 years ago now this....

[@joshuajosh77]

Destiny was a great guest, have him on more.

[@noone-vi5co]

Destiny is a proud black trans woman

[@wraygehouse]

@@noone-vi5cofox meeting them DIE quotas.

[@pussydemolisher-ng1dh]

@@noone-vi5co when is that meme gonna get old if it already didn't 10 years ago?

[@kopekopekop]

⁠@@pussydemolisher-ng1dhI think this is the first Destiny woman joke I’ve seen since the moderation crackdown started so we have hope for the future

[@wasdwasdedsf]

lol

[@RorinoTheGreat]

There’s a reason Will Cain isn’t a big name on Fox - he is far too level headed and polite. Kudos to another great conversation. Destiny has been on a tear recently

[@cody967]

The level headed & reasonable ones don't last long at Fox. Any information that contradicts the narrative gets a lot of backlash from the viewers. Ironically Don't like their safe space being invaded 😂

[@mbrown7325]

Yeah this was like crazy respectful and seemingly a very fair discussion.

[@ElectroNeutronic-lh4do]

He's actually a pretty big name. He was on ESPNs top show for a while (First Take). If you ask me, the Fox hosts are way more likely to let people talk and way less likely to Ad Hominem attack than CNN, MSNBC, etc.

[@user-dj8rr7gx1b]

Fox & Friends have a few decent people tbh. Tho, Brett Baier is a big name and definitely respected.

[@ElectroNeutronic-lh4do]

Deleted comments again. The last person that commented here is a shill.

[@rodo2220]

This Will Cain guy seems super reasonable. Props, Fox

[@mukuzChannel]

He has his moments

[@LuigiMordelAlaume]

Holy coherence Batman, how long has Fox been hiding this host that doesn't hop between irrelevant sensational nonsense and stays on topic. He's still spewing falsehoods but this is literally the most rational/authentic conversation I've ever seen from a younger dude on Fox.

[@jiimmyyy]

Yeah he seems like he's actually down to earth.

[@FeltiusCelcius]

SpEwInG fAlShOoD lmaooooooo 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@jiimmyyy]

@@FeltiusCelcius are you 12 years old?

[@FeltiusCelcius]

@@jiimmyyy 4. Impressive ik

[@FeltiusCelcius]

@@jiimmyyy any other pointless questions

[@umbrellafox9160]

Destiny fan, just wanted to say I loved the conversation. Will Cain surprised me, wouldn’t expect a voice like his on Fox. Definitely gonna check out more from him, seems interesting.

[@CRWeaventure]

DGGL

[@hayvenb]

Enchilada, my brother in Chris

[@johnnyjackbohorn7636]

@@hayvenb 🟪🟩🟧The Beatles 🎼had a ticket 🎟 to ride and Republicans offer tickets to guilt free racism, and they don’t care.

[@CRWeaventure]

@@hayvenb how u know that

[@Wallyworld30]

This was my worry about this debate. Destiny could be leading people to Fox News and their right wing brain rot. Hopefully he pulls more from them then he is giving to them.

[@Chris-il5im]

Having Destiny on was unexpected, but it turned out to be a pleasant surprise in the end. The conversation was really good. Thanks!

[@woolzem]

Watch the debate with Ben Shapiro, it's pretty good too

[@jessespence696]

@@woolzem you mean rapid fire conversation. I Thought it was alright, but I wouldn't call it much of a debate.

[@thelyonking5812]

Will Cain was pretty decent, I’m surprised. Better than most of the ideologues who host Fox shows.

[@jmw611]

I agree but so many of his points were nonsense. Destiny would eviscerate him in an actual fact based debate.

[@asiahcollinson5016]

I really like how respectful and good faith this convo was. Im a big Destiny fan, but huge props to Will Cain for the good faith energy in this convo

[@Robisquick]

Same here. He’s just a chip above the average media folks. Flawed for sure. Wrong sometimes. But clearly mailable and willing to a respectable degree to search for truth.

[@wasdwasdedsf]

for the record, this clown got literally around 98% of negative comments on the other podcast he was just on, boyscast... which haas quite an unpolitical and centrist viewerbase. the fact that this comment section looks like this on this video says a lot of hoow astroturfed and corporately driven his "success" is

[@havoc_theory]

Thanks for having Destiny on ❤

[@user-ql4ud9zr7m]

This guy is a took, he like to gaslight too much to score a win “you can’t possibly think bla bla bla”

[@killkerson295]

Thank you for having Destiny on. This kinda stuff is what we need.

[@Guyvermectin]

Cringe

[@abdullahx8118]

​@@Guyvermectin america is not cringe, you should acknowledge that america isnt evil. Its the best nation for its people and the world to ever set foot on earth, you should appreciate that.

[@Zinojn]

I hope they have her on more often. She was great!

[@how4646]

​@@abdullahx8118 based

[@wasdwasdedsf]

for the record, this clown got literally around 98% of negative comments on the other podcast he was just on, boyscast... which has quite an unpolitical and centrist viewerbase. the fact that this comment section looks like this on this video says a lot of how astroturfed and corporately driven his "success" is

[@fabiofernandes9122]

cant believe destiny went from a game streamer to debating on fox news.

[@demolazer]

For real, I remember watching him yell at people playing StarCraft over a decade ago. Boy done good

[@LibertyPlusTV]

Yeah, Fox is really scraping the bottom of the barrel since Tucker left lol

[@silversalmon9909]

​@@LibertyPlusTVwho cares about tucker 😂

[@Rx_orcist]

What getting diagnosed with ADHD can do for a mf

[@0_oblivion_02]

@@LibertyPlusTV Tucker WAS the bottom of the barrel.

[@LesageSinging]

I'd like to see more of this. I'm sick of seeing Destiny only having the opportunity to "debate" screaming cringe reactionary pundits. Pointed debates between Americans willing to actually listen to each other shouldn't be so hard to find.

[@lindaflesch7303]

Destiny had a very good debate with Ben Shapiro.

[@michaellong2439]

the reason I like him though is that I would BARELY even call this a "debate". destiny has really been leaning hard into making conversation compared to debating. debating is a sport that has a winner. in the midsts of a real debate nobody is giving the other person any ground and nobody is changing any minds on anything. if you tell someone theyre an idiot youre insane if you think they might agree with you after. its very obvious to see someone will say something destiny big time disagrees with and may be very prepared to dispute it but instead he'll just switch tactics and try to get back on similar ground. I think hes exactly what media needs more of today even if you disagree with his direct opinions

[@Snewts25]

I can tell you guys disagree on a lot of fundamental things but still managed to have an extremely productive conversation. Mad props that was truly refreshing

[@lockelamora4184]

LMAO... seeing fox news advertise TheOmniLiberal account is something else

[@__keys]

Actually

[@mikei4455]

Pepe pfp detected. Opinion discarded

[@peytonburnsed2196]

@@mikei4455 You misspelled anime and used it in the wrong context

[@shiba3996]

@@peytonburnsed2196 how many levels of irony are you on?

[@trizzybones]

As a Destiny fan, I haven't heard of Will Cain before but I appreciated that he could have a respectful and thoughtful conversation even while disagreeing, not what I would expect from Fox News and I'm open to seeing more of Will's content, good discussion!

[@michaellong2439]

ive started watching destiny recently and it seems hes (usually) changed from actually debating people, as in, he wants to "win" - and more so a real conversation that he genuinely tries to get people to see different sides. which I hugely respect. I think he is exactly what the media needs more of even if you disagree with his points directly

[@AntisepticHandwash]

This is the first time I've seen Will Cain, and wow, I am seriously impressed. The guy is informed, intelligent, well-spoken, and hugely respectful. This show is probably one of the best examples of constructive disagreement/conversation I've _ever_ seen. Fantastic!

[@Matt-lq6zk]

Man, I knew once Destiny landed on Lex's podcast that he would skyrocket after that. It's insane how far his reach has gotten. Edit: Please someone get this man an advisor for his wardrobe.

[@lindaflesch7303]

And hair stylist

[@olivebirdy2150]

How long do you think it'll be before the menswear guy makes a catty thread critiquing Destiny's outfits?

[@bcsb]

I commend Will Cain and the Fox News network for expanding their diversity outreach to include gnomes in the conversation. I'm sure Mr. Borelli appreciates the opportunity to represent his community.

[@le832]

😂😂😂 Mr Borelli!

[@BitterSnake]

MR BROCOCHELLI

[@Frohbee]

Mr Bonnarrelli you are a fantastic moron

[@brucegilbert625]

I love how his height has become a meme even though he’s not even that short. He’s taller than moistcrtical

[@deeky1239]

bet half the people laughing at this are shorter than Destiny at 5'8''.

[@Nikonfanboy1982]

As a long time Destiny fan I thought this convo was some of the better push back Destiny has ever had. Will has my respect. I cannot for the life of me see how anyone would watch a Tucker Carlson when the conservative thought leaders have guys like this at their disposal. I will be tuning in more often cheers will

[@zeaferjones1404]

Tucker is actually very fair to progressives. Sean Hannity is the one that is extremely biased to Republicans.

[@Fly_Slo]

Not tryna be divisive but what has tucker done that was so bad, he's a literal moderate of you listen to him. Literally trump and tucker are like 90s democrats who are slightly more right wing on economics and more right wing on abortion (for tucker trumps more moderate), you would think those people would actually be respected but they are labeled putin stooges or something like that

[@Nikonfanboy1982]

@@Fly_Slo I have too many reason to dislike Tucker to list here. The major reason is he sounds anti American and like a grifter never mind his political differences. If you’re not genuine you’re not worth listening to. I don’t believe he is genuine and if he is that may be worse. I don’t care for Trump because of his isolationism. I believe in globalization of markets because I am a capitalist and I want our companies to be the biggest best and dominant. Trump doesn’t understand the importance of nato, nor Taiwan. These are huge issues for me even if I loved Trump that would be enough for me to vote for Biden

[@stevenm3330]

The fact that these two even can talk or debate what is it to be an American, is American.

[@tommyc5515]

I agree that this is good! However, you guys (I’m guessing you are an American) seem so horny for your own uniqueness. This happens in every western country. Talking to people with different views in a respectful manner is just as Spanish or Croatian or Australian as it is American.

[@stevenm3330]

@tommyc5515 you would think that, but we are more unique in our freedom, especially when it comes to speech. Other western countries might talk about it, but they still have stricter speech laws then America.

[@tommyc5515]

@@stevenm3330 That is true, good point!

[@Shadowbanned4Lyfe]

Meanwhile Democrats colluding with big tech to silence the speech of others

[@5thMilitia]

Yes, because in other countries people never debate lol

[@demetriomaniau9249]

Hasan is so angry and jealous right now

[@mark-kq7rc]

Why would he be, he thinks fox news is fascist his followers will disown him if he does these this lol

[@seen7163]

​@@mark-kq7rcI think it has to do with the fact that destiny is about to become more mainstream than him

[@akiltircuit7515]

😂😂💀

[@ronniekregar3482]

Lol, not at all

[@TransfemPrincess_]

Oh no! Destiny gets to be Fox's newest controlled opposition! How will we go on?

[@rotundpopsicle]

I greatly enjoyed this conversation. It is so refreshingly nice to listen to 2 Intelligent individuals from conflicting viewpoints have a civil conversation

[@areichental]

I know right? How do we make this more Main stream American discourse?

[@nicememes7570]

Meanwhile Tucker Carlson having bill nye on literally refusing to let him answer the one question he asked bill

[@cp3190]

Great discussion. Problem is you think these two are intelligent. You are very unlikely to see any intelligent people being public people.

[@nicememes7570]

@@cp3190 just because you watch brain dead commentary doesn’t mean we all do, when’s the last time your pundits did their research on the show? Destiny viewers aren’t just being told what to think they literally get to watch the research happen in real time and watch as (for example) destiny was pretty well on the fence about Israel before reaching his current stance, as we all learned about the atrocities that happened for both sides as they keep trying to justify continuing a conflict.

[@nicememes7570]

@@cp3190 Ivy League schools like the ones we found out (during Trump presidency) that wealthy families were just outright paying for their kids to get in? Can’t for the life of me think of why a random nobody from Nebraska with As and Bs wouldn’t get invited as opposed to sons and daughters of rich people and politicians lmao. And again the research happens on stream, you literally can not tell me that destiny isn’t WELL above average intelligence considering he can point out the cognitive dissonance in people LIKE PETERSON. And yeah I know how scouting works I was scouted too, idk what that has to do with anything we were saying but k. And people with brains care if information can be verified, regardless of medium. Example: gaza health ministry might have a conflict of interest on how to report numbers, but if the numbers they provide match with is real data centers, American, European etc, then odds are they aren’t lying about number of deaths. Again, just for one example.

[@MD-en6ji]

God everyone always uses the absolute worst picture of Destiny

[@jacobandrews2663]

I burst out laughing when I saw the thumbnail, it always is that same picture lmao

[@ronniekregar3482]

Bro ..he goes on every show looking like he just rolled out of bed lol

[@richardhands904]

He is like an extra chromosome gnome

[@Jorjioo]

That picture specifically is such a classic. I feel like it's the most used picture of Steven when he's on someone elses show and they make the thumbnail

[@ragecl4120]

​@ronniekregar3482 you think he looks like he just rolled out of bed? Cmon now

[@ravenhawk3758]

I always enjoy Destiny. He's an extremely bright and deep thinker. Hope he comes back. Thanks

[@deviantnia]

i disagree, his trump derangement syndrome is too strong

[@yonaoisme]

@@deviantniatrump is unironically terrible. not seeing that is truth derangement syndrom

[@ElectroNeutronic-lh4do]

He's actually not a deep thinker. He is a broad thinker that gives the illusion of depth, in my estimation. I've seen the wheels turning in his head many times to avoid going deeper and skipping laterally to protect his leftist worldview.

[@ravenhawk3758]

@@ElectroNeutronic-lh4do Actually, after giving your comment more thought, tangential thinkers are the creative thinkers and often make leaps of logic that lead to new ways of thinking. They see connections most people don't see.

[@ElectroNeutronic-lh4do]

​@@ravenhawk3758I hear you and there are positives to it. But it's not good for political thought leadership. Why? Because you have to see themes as a leader. In this discussion, around 38:00, he quoted a conservative justice in a shallow way (Scalia), and with another host he might have gotten away with looking smart and so balanced... but Will knew the quote and the context on a deeper level, and the larger theme that Scalia was getting at was the opposite of what Destiny was trying to say. Destiny was trying to use it as an argument FOR institutions, because without them we would only have "parchment rights" or rights on paper. But Scalia was actually warning against putting your trust in any institution to guarantee you rights to anyone else's things (positive rights). So Destiny puts faith in institutions because he sees their flex, but doesnt realize the nature of those institutions or the core principles that led to them and protect against them. He doesnt acknowledge that Will understood the theme and principle of what Scalia was saying and then continues after that by basically saying "Well, it's insane to think that on the whole the institutions are nefarious, and people are just trying to do the right thing." That's beside the point! He's right, in that it would a sick, cynical person to think that throughout all the institutions there is some vast conspiracy to take down Americans, and that everyone is involved. But the point is, how were these institutions designed, and how do we use the principles that founded this country to help guide our handling of them. If he's not willing or able to discuss those principles and keeps shifting the discussion to defend the status quo, then he and whoever follows him uncritically will be susceptible to being "useful idiots", even if they are smart. Because, no, it is not possible for every single government employee to be some evil conspirator, but it is possible, and extremely likely that this country's comminist adversaries would seek to subvert our institutions and use them against us. Which, if you look at the THEMES at play... censorship, lawfare against political opponents, radical cultural shift... THAT idea not only seems possible, but extremely likely and all but conclusive.

[@razcarsey6635]

Wait... so Steven Botticelli flies all the way to the NY Fox HQ only to be interviewed remotely in a different room?

[@Matt-ut7lh]

Destiny sits on the the coach on the right side of Cain,you can see destiny eyeing the right and Cain eyeing the left every so often

[@starhawks1]

*Borelli

[@ThePurplemaneater]

@@starhawks1 Vermicelli*

[@Valentin_Teslov]

@@ThePurplemaneater *Spaghettini

[@SelfCheckout]

it's a hybrid remote gig

[@mmhnef]

I would have really liked to listen to these two talk longer, we don't see conversations like this anywhere.

[@jakejones5163]

Destiny has them all the time! Fox and other mainstream media like the division too much

[@lindaflesch7303]

BEN SHAPIRO and DESTINY had a very good debate as well.

[@burntxela1258]

A lot of Destiny’s debates lately have been very good listens, regardless of who I agree with, I still love hearing both sides

[@DrStrangelove_]

He had a great appearance on the minimalist podcast a while ago. Highly reccomend.

[@jamesgreen78758]

I’ve heard a lot about Fox News being racist, but I appreciate that you all were able to bring on a strong black woman like Destiny

[@skoomaenjoyer9582]

You’ve found a safe place to make this joke 💀

There it is

[@gotchathespider7850]

People have been saying this meme should die for years, but honestly, if I went to the comments on a video with destiny in it and I didn't see at least one I'd be a little disappointed.

[@TheAngryCoyote]

I’ve been informed by authoritative sources that Mr Borelli is a 35 year old Cubano

[@mopeybloke]

@@gotchathespider7850 I'm disappointed how I don't see "Destiny got destroyed in this debate" posted beneath the most casual conversations.

[@davidrdz46]

This conversation was truly civil, and both parties should learn from it.

[@BitterSnake]

Norm Finklestinny could learn a thing or two lol

[@mondeezul]

​@@BitterSnake can't teach an old slow dog new tricks

[@Johnnysmithy24]

@@BitterSnake “Mr Borelli, stop displaying your imbecility!”

[@sirwill619]

Wow refreshing to see two people give each other the time to speak without interrupting each other on Fox News

[@Bellizz0913]

You only see "interruptions" and arguments on Fox because they bring on those with opposing view points. MSNBC/CNN just fluff each other's balls. Definition of echo chamber.

[@tehaj]

Great convo, have Destiny on more

[@TiredMage47]

So if it is a sign of insecurity to not show up for a debate, is Trump insecure for not showing up to debate any of the republican debates?

[@Petebootyfudge5312]

Nope

[@theloonytubes]

@@Petebootyfudge5312 Nope, because he was the chosen canidate and didn't have to debate. The others debated for second place.

[@spacetoast7783]

Obviously yes lol

[@spacetoast7783]

​@@theloonytubesHe wasn't chosen until recently.

[@demolazer]

Trump is one of the most insecure people on earth

[@RoyalMewtwo]

Refreshing! Both were polite, talked substantively, and didn’t resort to snark or derision.

[@MrJonathandsouza]

Finally a left winger who is actually speaking sense. Please bring him on again. Great convo.

[@twilyte9557]

You should watch him debate Ben shapiro, they go over a wide range of topics.

[@TechnoLion1]

Ive watched Destiny for a long time. I have gotten way more right-wing over the years but i have always appreciated his honesty (most of the time) and willingness to debate.

[@cagog]

Great seeing someone like Stephen (Destiny) representing their side so well without being crazy. Hope to see him on more programs.

[@vladtheimpaler7375]

Dude it’s so crazy that Destiny has gotten this far even though Destiny is a girls name.

[@CroftBondG]

First time hearing about Will Cain. If you didn't tell me that his show was on Fox News, I wouldn't have believed it. Will is a MUCH better personality to have in order to bring back Fox News' reputation. Fox, get Will more coverage. As a Liberal, it's a breath of fresh air to see some well communicated and professional attitudes on Fox. We can disagree, but wayyyy more open to listening to Fox when Will is a representation.

[@warallied]

as a moderate - im actually quite surprised. While there is room for more heat and more ideas however far they are - this is definately a great moderation of a side of the aisle.

[@mbburry4759]

Unfortunately there's a reason he's not on prime time - the bulk of the fox fans crave their evening unhinged personalities

[@warallied]

@@mbburry4759 lets not act like its a unique thing to the right

[@sadboat1657]

​@@warallied see: Hasan

[@TheChemist6676]

I came here as a Destiny fan and had never heard of Will Cain. This was a great conversation and I really enjoyed the openness of Will Cain and Destiny to hear different points of views. The ability of Will to have an open conversation encourages me to listen to more of Will in the future. Of course I have to say... Have Destiny on more!

[@Dextorius]

This was a great convo. We need more of this, more civility in our public discourse. 👏👏👏

[@Zach-cn4lb]

What the hell? This Will Cain guy actually seems sort of reasonable and honest. What is he doing on Fox?

[@unclebobboomergames]

Most even big media channels are way better when youre not listening to the poster children. The big names are always the worst. Stay away from prime time. Day time is surprisingly usually way more reasonable.b

[@SpikedCollar666]

Yeah I was surprised too. It’s probably because he was involved with sports so he views this all a bit differently and is used to arguing opposing narratives without having to hardline a certain one overall.

[@jamesinhenley]

he works there, they pay him to have conversations like this

[@Thenameisvince.]

I was so confused to see fox news in my recommendations and so happy I clicked on it. This was a great conversation, much respect to the host!

[@JesseSelbert]

Thank you for having Destiny on for this discussion.

[@Erick-es3ip]

Great conversation!!! This guy should be on Bridges podcast AUGUST AND KYLA GET THIS GUY !!

[@areichental]

Will cain is 100x more enjoyable than Hannity. Hope he moves up on fox. Great talk bud.

[@meganbranch2730]

Ok Mr. Will Cain is quite intelligent, and VERY well spoken/articulate. I’m impressed. I see u Will!

[@waffles1042]

Not the biggest Destiny fan, but he spoke really well here.

[@toxicwaltz0863]

😂

[@user-xg9wb9zs7j]

dgg4L brotherman

[@ronniekregar3482]

Lol, he literally fumbled his opening statement.

[@castion4181]

@@ronniekregar3482 did you only watch the first 2 minutes lol

[@firefly9838]

He is so dumb like all neocons in lib clothing

[@thoughtpolice94]

Thanks for having destiny on

[@Cuptial-ev9tb]

First time listening to Will Cain. Seems like a smart guy and a good move for Fox!

[@ApocalexNow]

Thank you Will Cain for platforming black women, even when they disagree with you.

[@BVBridesifyer]

Never miss an opportunity brother o7

[@TheIdeaTree]

This is probably the best conversation Destiny has had in months, definitely the entirety of 2024. Both parties actually got to complete their sentences, topics reached a satisfying enough end point, there was actual good faith effort from both parties... kudos to you Mr. Cain.

[@seaborg9946]

Love to see a 35 year old black woman come on the show! Awesome to see diversity

[@adamnotkardas7765]

This was really great please have destiny on more in the future

[@Boswd]

He's one of the few sane voices on the left.

[@reddillon8425]

there are objectively more sane voices on the left than there are on the right. Your idea of what the "left" is comes entirely from twitter, but when you actually look at POLITICS and who the POLITICIANS are, it's MASSIVELY more moderate than tankie. Meanwhile if we look at the right, these EXTREME CONSPIRATORIAL BELIEFS are the AVERAGE belief of the AVERAGE conservative. And these EXTREME CONSPIRATORIAL BELIEFS have support ALL THE WAY UP THE OFFICIAL REPUBLICAN CHAIN OF COMMAND up to the, at one time, president of the united states donald trump. The irony of talking about "sane voices" when the insane voices have GENUINE GOVERNMENT SUPPORT on your side is palpable. 99% of your beliefs have no actual evidence behind them and you're able to do that by declaring that everything is a conspiracy so you don't have to prove anything. It's absurd.

[@LguanadonTRex]

There’s more of us every day. The millennials are growing up and while some of us are trapped in echo chambers, there is clearly a hunger to reach across the aisle and work with our American brothers and sisters.

[@arick6601]

The other dude is one of the few sane voices on the right

[@kingkarlito]

@@arick6601 i dunno about that, he seemed super into trump's populism and break down of the rule of law

[@arick6601]

@@kingkarlito yeah unfortunately that's the best they have rn.

[@LukeXNagel]

First time watching anything Will Cain, and so far I dont hate him at all!

[@jamesinhenley]

wow you sound like a really niice person

[@ThrashXCV]

Happy to see Destiny here talking to the republicans, maybe he can pull these people back towards the center.

[@CordaroBlu]

The Center Provides

[@lindaflesch7303]

A minority is still center,unfortunately their shouted out by MAGA, which is also a minority of Americans.

[@nacnud8663]

Most young right wingers like me are liberal economics wise but I just have a hard time with the new culture were creating in almost every direction

[@CordaroBlu]

@@nacnud8663 that's an interesting perspective. I bet you'd find far more liberals who agree with you when you break it down. That's how I am when I talk to a lot of conservatives. Gender identity is a far too deep subject to get elementary/middle school kids trying to figure out. Parents should be notified if their child is thinking of transitioning. But it's not as common or intense an issue as a lot of conservative media paints it. That's the disconnect most of the time.

[@Lizard1582]

Surprisingly hinged for a Fox guy i never heard of. Seems like a good faith person to talk to on future events for Destiny

[@AndreaDoesYoga]

Intriguing perspectives, thanks for sharing!

[@robd.5640]

I smells tuna.

[@viziontrex]

@@robd.5640 what a strange thing to say

[@richardhands904]

​@@robd.5640is that like a weird version of having smelling toast when you have a stroke

[@IriaChannel]

That was a fantastic conversation

[@Flushot22]

I used to listen to Will Cain here in Sacramento on ESPN Radio. I had no idea he was at Fox News being a liberal myself. As a Destiny fan, this was the best possible way to rediscover Mr. Cain and I love the respectful back and forth and hope that the conversation can continue in the near future between the two.

[@smeegie181]

Glad to see Fox News platforming women of color for important issues like this

[@touchpotential3762]

Diversity of thought and marketplace for ideas…love it ❤

[@ThySheepie]

@@touchpotential3762absolutely based, sweetie❤️❤️🥰🥰

[@dustinarnold9639]

Destiny has become the reasonable left.

[@justinbethard3544]

Enjoyed the conversation! Great back and forth between the two!

[@socomchamp00]

Hasan has to be pulling his hair out right now 😂😂

[@theomnidegenerate5236]

I can hear him now “ no you think I’m jealous are you stupid!?! I don’t want to go on and talk with these fascist freak shows of course this pathetic Gooner Gusano gnome has no problem talking with fascists he’s adjacent too!!” And so the cope begins😂

[@jeremyking9094]

This is Hasan's dream. Destiny on Fox News. He can make the Destiny is a conservative argument to his audience now.

[@socomchamp00]

@@jeremyking9094 he might cope and say that. behind the scenes he's seething. Destiny's trajectory is on a steep incline and Hasan's appears to be on a slow, painful decline.

[@BathoryDusk]

Really cool that you guys had Destiny on. One of the only (if not THE only) left leaning political streamers who actively goes out to talk to people with different viewpoints. Both of you guys were very polite and engaged in good faith. Would love to see more of this.

[@plsjustnathan1]

I feel like I’ve watched destiny my whole life and it’s really cool seeing him grow, he’s the reason I’m going into politics and I want to make the world a better place

[@Funymoney010]

This was one of the most refreshing and good conversations in a really long time, thanks to both of these two for the conversation!

[@TankSwift]

Destiny? That's a strippers name 😂😂😂😂 God bless my man, this guy grinds every day and never lost focus 🙌🏿

[@cdubbau135]

This was a great conversation. Thank you Will Cain. I hope you do more like this.

[@fernandoarrieta2364]

The lib seemed like he knew what he was talking about

[@slothslop]

i think its important to remember that the left has always been in love with America's promise of being a multicultural melting pot, and though its not popular to say anymore, the left truly is in love with this part of the country's identity, while the right is in love with other parts.

[@mamatoldem5331]

Yo I never thought about that you are absolutely correct and it's a beautiful thing I'm a patriotic black man and they try to act like we don't exist I have tons of pride in my country

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

@@mamatoldem5331 multicultural melting pot doesnt work when new migrants feel more for their native land and use america only as economic zone. Thats how you lose your country whole identity and create tribal rivals groups fighting for space

[@Johnnysmithy24]

@@mamatoldem5331 ❤️

[@jamesmcdonnell2455]

Lol, what nonsense. You can't claim you want a "multicultural melting pot" and whine about "cultural appropriation". It's like saying you like sheppard's pie, but you want it deconstructed on you plate. Sure you have the lamb, corn, and potatoes, but it's not the same if you keep it all separated

[@slothslop]

@@jamesmcdonnell2455 cool strawman bro are you going to say I want litterboxes in school classrooms too

[@gnor5658]

Wow destiny is actually everywhere now

[@ajschannel2038]

Let’s go! destiny will be on joe rogan next????

[@ANTIStraussian]

Go rogan is to redacted to have destiny.

[@lindaflesch7303]

That's doubtful, there's virtually no debating on Rogan.

[@stevemoor7419]

Factual point: Federal charges were brought against Edwards. He was found to not guilty of receiving illegal campaign donations, but the jury deadlocked on the other five charges. The federal government dropped the case, because they couldn't find a way to prosecute with an assured victory. It is significant to note, the federal government prosecuted Edwards, but the federal government did not prosecute Trump over the same charges. If anything, Trump is favored here.

[@TevelDrinkwater]

Interesting

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

If I were MAGA I’d proudly and belligerently declare, “where did you get this information from? CNN?!” But I’m not, so I won’t. 👏

[@shi_barbie7817]

I'm extremely happy to see Destiny growing like this! What a year.

[@kevinpondt720]

Surprisingly awesome conversation, high brow and respectful, more Destiny

[@NachoC9]

Destiny killed this

[@Bobbyblack6]

Loved the adherence to the conversation. A lot of topics were brought up and a lot of conversation paths could have been followed but Will and Destiny both danced perfectly to stay on topic and follow a consistent, wholistic and constructive approach to the conversation. Would love to hear them talk again and get into the weeds of a singular topic.

[@cdious6]

This Destiny guy is smooth with the balance.

[@robertmcknight6458]

This is always my problem with people on the right! They all have trouble criticizing their party! Destiny have spoken openly about his likes and dislikes about the party but Will keeps pivoting away like the party is perfect! He had no comment about how the house Republicans are living in chaos! It's a civil war inside the Republican party! Say it Will it's okay!

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

Yea, it’s almost like they project their bs onto others. To say that “Democrats” have no cohesive philosophy or value system, meanwhile Republicans have no issue minimizing Donald Trump paying pornstar hush money or justifying Trump sending a false slate of electors outside the bounds of constitutionality to illegally alter the electoral process. They want to nitpick around the edges, as if Hunter Biden lying on his gun permit documents is a greater threat to democracy than the aforesaid actions of Trump. It’s just absurd.

[@swylie2010]

I came to this from a silly post on twitter. I thought I would not like somebody named "Destiny". I was surprised. The goofy name guy made more sense than the host's questions even merited.

[@justinmarin3988]

refreshing to see two people who disagree have a calm and respectful conversation

[@bewee]

People attacking Cain, why? He didn't really debate, he just kinda asked questions with a tiny bit of push back. He went easy I thought, but didn't look stupid, or like he didn't know what he was talking about.

[@pefo1674]

Sorry but he does that all the time...

[@johnnyjackbohorn7636]

@@pefo1674 🟪🟩🟧The Beatles 🎼had a ticket 🎟 to ride and Republicans offer tickets to guilt free racism, and they don’t care.

[@ANTIStraussian]

He thinks the Republican party is in a great place 😂

[@FamSisher]

Who’s attacking Cain? I see nothing but positive comments

[@richardhands904]

Only see positive comments

[@lordlynkz]

Great show. A real conversation i think all Americans should engage with.

[@Crankey239]

Destiny Fan and I'm honestly really impressed with Will's ability to ask questions and listen without attacking on any pre-conceived notions. Proud of you Fox, conversations like this are a big step in the right direction.

[@chemicalten1447]

This was an incredible conversation actually.

[@Lili_Chen2005]

This is the first time I've heard of Destiny and I'll be honest - I was expecting a girl given the name.

[@bradders9743]

I was really happy to see destiny on Fox news, but I was also really happy to discover Will. I never watched his show before and he really impressed me. Great vid all around!

[@andrewpirooz8873]

This is a great thing Fox, this was a very respectful conversation between two people representing the best of their sides. Would love to see Destiny on again!

[@ChaseFace]

This was great. More Destiny as often as possible! He’s one of the only honest voices in politics these days.

[@user-pd3gt3tx5e]

What are you talking about. Will got him to admit the NY case wasn't good. Do you have to cope so hard when you hear another opinion.

[@LOLLOL-ff9sq]

@@user-pd3gt3tx5e ??? He himself said that the case wasn't good, you make it seem like he got interrogated into admitting it or something.

[@ColdfFlare]

I imagine he was going to say "I can't wait to work my way up to a real news network" 😂😂 he had to roll it back.

[@TlTVN]

lol i think work my way up fox news haha but then he realized that might be an insult to this guy hahaha

[@thewriter7966]

He was ABSOLUTELY going to say that LMFAO

[@SpikedCollar666]

Timestamp?

[@BitterSnake]

@@SpikedCollar666 2:33

[@BDKoala]

​@@TlTVNI thought he was going to mention "work his way up to Tucker Carlson" but that would have been a sore point.

[@StoicFlame]

This destiny rise in popularity is not fair for hasanabi.

[@ChiefBinChicken]

Hamasabi

[@wellread8649]

This is my favorite conversation I've seen in a long time. Two down to earth people who know a lot about the topics they bring up.

[@andrewbeard5250]

As a destiny fan since 2020, it’s genuinely soooo exciting to see his appearances on huge right-wing platforms over the last couple months

[@Adam-rs2ly]

First time seeing you Will but I really enjoyed this conversation.