WILL ANTHONY JOSHUA RETIRE AS AN ALL-TIME GREAT? 🤔 Simon Jordan & Spencer Oliver discuss!

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@dontbewoke
@dontbewoke 2 ай бұрын
Jordan criticises AJ for one appearance on a TV show but doesnt criticise Fury for making an entire TV series...
@jamesprynne1422
@jamesprynne1422 2 ай бұрын
He’s literally said he’s not a fan of it before. Stop trying so desperately to spin a narrative
@Andrew-dw6ee
@Andrew-dw6ee 2 ай бұрын
just another sad hater
@Dan-qk3mt
@Dan-qk3mt 2 ай бұрын
Jordan is pathetic, so is anyone that looks up to him
@T3akkeydhd
@T3akkeydhd 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesprynne1422shut up man. He’s always spinning narratives and people can call it out if they want to.
@Jy-j
@Jy-j 2 ай бұрын
Receipts my guy.
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s 2 ай бұрын
It would be great one day to see Simon get behind AJ with out if's and stupid hypotheticals
@tundeshofowoke6943
@tundeshofowoke6943 2 ай бұрын
AJ knocked out your proclaimed baddest man on the planet in Francis Ngannou
@PatrickFitzgerald..
@PatrickFitzgerald.. 2 ай бұрын
No one except ufc fans believed that LOL I knew he would ko that bum
@travisjohnson7283
@travisjohnson7283 2 ай бұрын
Both of you know a boxing match. Can not make you the baddest man on the planet.
@PatrickFitzgerald..
@PatrickFitzgerald.. 2 ай бұрын
@@travisjohnson7283 then what makes it sunshine
@travisjohnson7283
@travisjohnson7283 2 ай бұрын
@@PatrickFitzgerald..bar fight over fat chick
@pm-tt1mu
@pm-tt1mu Ай бұрын
That was a fix like all of ajs fights he dodges all the big fights
@MattM1604
@MattM1604 2 ай бұрын
The cv speaks for fighters!!!!!!!!!
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma 2 ай бұрын
Andy Ruiz's CV had no top 30 names in 2019 but he made Anthony Joshua quit😂
@Born2EditHD
@Born2EditHD 2 ай бұрын
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma What evidence do you have that AJ quit?
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma 2 ай бұрын
@@Born2EditHD Andy Ruiz said that Anthony Joshua quit. The ref gave AJ 28 seconds after 4th knock down before waving off the fight. AJ quit like a journeyman because he was too afraid to get knocked out brutally by Andy Ruiz
@Craigyboi01
@Craigyboi01 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandmayour obsessed 😂😂 you have a profile about him and every post you do is about him. Very weied 😂😂
@adeoluwafatokun3559
@adeoluwafatokun3559 2 ай бұрын
​@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_GrandmaRuiz never said AJ quit, he said maybe he quit.
@joppers7820
@joppers7820 2 ай бұрын
Eddies comments got to Simon :)
@thelegendarydeikay3071
@thelegendarydeikay3071 2 ай бұрын
maybe but also SJ said alot of questions that needed to be asked which he ducked the answer, he's very clever eddie, it was just like a jossling match
@tonyg7551
@tonyg7551 2 ай бұрын
Anthony Joshua has achieved an incredible amount. The fact that he started boxing at 18 makes it all the more startling. Imagine someone had said when he walked into his boxing gym at 18 that he would be fighting for the title of Unified Heavyweight Champion at the National stadium in 9 years time after having won Olympic Gold. People would’ve laughed and called it impossible. He did it. Enough said
@AD-lu8vm
@AD-lu8vm 2 ай бұрын
Wilder started boxing in his 20's and won the bronze medal in 2008 Olympics. Anthony Joshua robbed his Olympic medal after losing to Erislandy Savon
@adeoluwafatokun3559
@adeoluwafatokun3559 2 ай бұрын
​@@AD-lu8vm...what are you saying? Gibberish!
@tonyg7551
@tonyg7551 2 ай бұрын
Wilder!? Garbage. Complete and utter rubbish
@tonyg7551
@tonyg7551 2 ай бұрын
Wilder started boxing in his 20’s and still doesn’t know the basics.
@dominicfm2189
@dominicfm2189 2 ай бұрын
​@@AD-lu8vm in the cruiserweight division at 6'7
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s 2 ай бұрын
Simon doesn't seem to understand that AJ is about legacy, he has a shirt load of money. Joshua is a smart man.
@MrIDFWU
@MrIDFWU 2 ай бұрын
2x unified champ who will beat Usyk if they have a 3rd fight!!! His resume alone solidifies his legacy 🤷🏽‍♂️
@vanguard8889
@vanguard8889 2 ай бұрын
What the hell you smoking, boy? Put it down. Usyk schooled him back-to-back! Deal with it. Usyk is the generational great. You angry he white, cuz?
@davidtrainer9217
@davidtrainer9217 2 ай бұрын
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@macweed3358
@macweed3358 2 ай бұрын
His Resume is nothing special parker has the best current resume
@llGLaSGoWCeLTiCll
@llGLaSGoWCeLTiCll 2 ай бұрын
Sure he will 🙄
@hobbyrider3795
@hobbyrider3795 2 ай бұрын
@@macweed3358 🤣
@vantheman1238
@vantheman1238 2 ай бұрын
Nobody is talking about how good and fired up Usyk is going to be going into this fight.
@Dan-qk3mt
@Dan-qk3mt 2 ай бұрын
Lets hope so
@fearassassin5207
@fearassassin5207 2 ай бұрын
That's cuz this isn't about usyk, if you want vids on usyk don't look for vids on aj 🤦‍♂️😂😂
@Yiealo6372jd
@Yiealo6372jd 2 ай бұрын
@@leonleon2276wouldn’t say most
@HisExcellencyB
@HisExcellencyB 2 ай бұрын
@@fearassassin5207 hilarious from you 😂
@jamesprynne1422
@jamesprynne1422 2 ай бұрын
@@leonleon2276disgusting especially if your British. Back your boy!
@michaelnwode3438
@michaelnwode3438 2 ай бұрын
That’s understandable and being a two time belts combinations heavyweight champion is an enviable record.👍
@user-xu4cz3xz1u
@user-xu4cz3xz1u 2 ай бұрын
3 x world champion....🧐🧐🧐Is that not a polite way of saying youve lost your belt twice 🧐🧐🧐
@nelsoninthenorth6499
@nelsoninthenorth6499 2 ай бұрын
You can, or you can also say that you fell down and came back up several times to the summit. Cause that’s life isn’t. We fall down and get back up! That achievement takes mental, emotional, physical resilience to come back from 🤔
@user-xu4cz3xz1u
@user-xu4cz3xz1u 2 ай бұрын
@@nelsoninthenorth6499 Of course im not knocking it, just sometimes the way its worded as though its some kind of greater achievement when in reality its obviously not as good as not losing. For the general public it can be misleading and thought of as some greater achievement when in reality its not!
@SeanMAN-yu9fe
@SeanMAN-yu9fe 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-xu4cz3xz1u Shows you've faced competition comparable to yourself. Ali lost the title 3 times, twice by losing. Ali admittedly also avenged all his career losses aside from Berbick and Holmes who he was ill against. Joshua obviously wouldn't be close to that level, but out of the modern heavyweights I'd argue he's got the best resume and second to only Parker he's faced the most dangerous competition in this era. In the ideal world Joshua can get wins over Fury, Usyk and Wilder to solidify his legacy and retire near if not at that ATG level.
@nelsoninthenorth6499
@nelsoninthenorth6499 2 ай бұрын
@@user-xu4cz3xz1u I think this mentality/boxing ideology of losing your 0 makes you lesser fighter than people thought you’d be is often derived from Mayweather hyping it up that he has never lost. And that’s an amazing achievement because so few great fighters get to retire without never tasting defeat. Like Mayweather, Ward, Calzaghe, Marciano…but throughout boxing history many of the great names have been defined by their stories of redemption from facing defeat. Ali, Foreman, Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield and many more….those names and stories are what made boxing what we enjoy watching
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
Not unless your new to boxing . Lol
@longshanks90
@longshanks90 2 ай бұрын
Yes is the answer his resume speaks for it self, he's fought and beat nearly everyone in the division, he's only lost 3 times in his career twice to one of them. Hes never dodged anyone and he has never cut corners to avoid someone either, he's an Olympic gold medalist and like him or not anthony joshua will go down as the greatest heavyweight in a generation
@davidtrainer9217
@davidtrainer9217 2 ай бұрын
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@davidtrainer9217
@davidtrainer9217 2 ай бұрын
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@Lockyoriginal1
@Lockyoriginal1 2 ай бұрын
What are you on - l will have some of that !! Your saying the best heavyweight in the last 20 to 30 years - wow that’s a fair imagination you have 😂 can’t imagine you could sell that notion 😂😂😂😂
@longshanks90
@longshanks90 2 ай бұрын
@@Lockyoriginal1 who's still fighting from 30yrs ago you plum I'm not talking a hundred years I mean every heavyweight on the planet right now, Parker, fury, wilder, whyte, usyk etc. When this era ends and everyone I've just mentioned retires that is the end of an era in boxing as it has a very short life span. You can play football for 25-30yrs but boxing at the highest level you get 10yrs max. I'm not talking in human years I'm talking in sport years and aj, fury, usyk and Parker have only a few fights left in them and then a new era in boxing will start. There's documented proof that fury was telling wilder not to fight aj so two of the so called best deliberately dodged him look it up wilders team released the texts about 2yrs ago so that's 2 he never fought but he destroyed everyone else and then lost to ruiz came back and beat him then he never really came back to fight usyk which he's been garenteed the winner by turki so let's see how the 3rd fight goes now aj is getting his confidence back when usyk beats fury plus fury has to turn up remember so pretty obvious who his replacement is
@GTschumacher
@GTschumacher 2 ай бұрын
Time for a big fight ,the last four have just been confidence building fights
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
If he fought Furys last three opponents in the exact order he did with a WBC belt he’d be destroyed by you guys . Lol
@GTschumacher
@GTschumacher 2 ай бұрын
@@UncleTermite dillian whyte did earn his shot to be fair..
@fearassassin5207
@fearassassin5207 2 ай бұрын
I can't see aj waiting till September to fight he'll probably have another before then keep the momentum going probably in June
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
@@GTschumacher Yea but hat was a mandatory. No one asked fir the Chisora fight , no one asked fir Ngannou either bc Fury blatantly ducked Usyk to take that fight instead as a money grab which backfired on him . Joshua last 4 opponents were considered top ones when Fury fought them ? Why is it when Joshua fights the same opponents he’s taking careful fights ? Helenius was a last minute opponent he didn’t even want that fight .
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
@@fearassassin5207 That depends if Fury wins bc the Saudis will try everything possible to go right into Fury vs Joshua . If Usyk wins I expect a Hrgovic fight .
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s 2 ай бұрын
AJ'S money is why Fury keeps trying to tell everyone how much money he makes 😅
@davidravenscroft1641
@davidravenscroft1641 Ай бұрын
His fight with Klitschko is probs the best heavyweight bout of the last decade.
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s 2 ай бұрын
AJ doesn't need to take a big hit, he stops them before that.
@moisesescobarr
@moisesescobarr Ай бұрын
Anthony Joshua will certainly retire as a great in this era of heavyweights
@10Tails10
@10Tails10 2 ай бұрын
Who is Jordan to tell AJ what is, and what isn’t, distracting to him?! The arrogance of this man knows no bounds!
@robertp2577
@robertp2577 2 ай бұрын
Who cares...he has £180 million in the bank securing his familys future and generations to come. That's all a man can do and be proud of
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma 2 ай бұрын
Lol. You are counting his money. Boxing fans care about the fights. Joshua ducked Wilder and Fury and got embarrassed by Ruiz and Usyk
@andrewjonathan559
@andrewjonathan559 2 ай бұрын
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_GrandmaAnd Fury got put on his ass by a MMA fighter and barely won while Wilder got the 💩 beat out of him by Parker in their last fight. Both Fury and Wilders resumes are abysmal compared to Anthonys with barely any title defenses if any at all. Also, didn’t Wilder admit to turning down AJs deal to fight Fury? Seems to me there’s only one duck here and it ain’t Anthony. We get it, you don’t like him and your username says as much but to be ahistorical about the situation is hilarious🤡
@AndiGomez-yu2dx
@AndiGomez-yu2dx 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewjonathan559Parker is a good fighter, probably 4th best in the division. Fury on the other hand knocked him out twice.
@robertp2577
@robertp2577 2 ай бұрын
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma And you got embarrassed by your comment on youtube forever 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@robertp2577
@robertp2577 2 ай бұрын
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Joshua's ducked no one...I see you...your a Fury fan boy who loves the sausage. Did you watch his press conference to help boost his ego. Tell me..did you enjoy his narcissistic rambling talk...cause you did as he has you sucked up his ass embarrassing yourself on youtube
@Hghar
@Hghar 2 ай бұрын
As it stands i believe the closest to all-time great is Usyk, that being said either AJ..Fury or Usyk cleans up from now until retirement then either one of them is top 10 easy all-time greats
@chrismorgan9460
@chrismorgan9460 2 ай бұрын
You are having a laugh. As a heavyweight usyk is no where near being a top 50 all time heavyweight and AJ is in my opinion one of the most overrated heavyweights ever.
@Hghar
@Hghar 2 ай бұрын
@@chrismorgan9460 Who said anything about HW all-time great?? Point me in the direction when i said HW buddy...
@leecroysdale8140
@leecroysdale8140 2 ай бұрын
I always thought when Daniel debau first fought that he was a bit tasty, but he's let himself down a bit, I think double d will defeat hergavicth, and AJ will have to box double D for the IBF....
@adeajibade402
@adeajibade402 2 ай бұрын
SIMON, AJ has also been the poster boy of boxing for the last decade. Even when he lost there was no one there to step up
@theabbaslovers
@theabbaslovers 2 ай бұрын
AJ made this generation of heavyweight boxing great…So he is among the greats period
@thetr_uth
@thetr_uth 2 ай бұрын
For what he has gone through and how he has bounced back, definitely have to consider him in the list of the ALL TIME GREATS. if he wins a championship belt again and does well defending it than I think he has to be one of the all time greats of the sport❤
@HisExcellencyB
@HisExcellencyB 2 ай бұрын
What has he "gone through"?
@rogerdavies2796
@rogerdavies2796 2 ай бұрын
Blimey. All time great ? Stop it. Just stop it.
@recodegamesstudio
@recodegamesstudio 2 ай бұрын
@rogerdavies2796 i bet you consider luke fury an ATG for beating chisora three times, windmill wilder and a grandad klitscko
@rogerdavies2796
@rogerdavies2796 2 ай бұрын
@@recodegamesstudio Who mentioned Fury ? I didn't. It's not a competition. Incidentally, I've watched many more ATG's in my life than you have. Neither Fury or Joshua are in the top 5 heavyweight greats (AJ not even top 10) and neither would have laid a glove on Ali. Fact
@HisExcellencyB
@HisExcellencyB 2 ай бұрын
@@rogerdavies2796 they can't help themselves 😂
@markjones5843
@markjones5843 2 ай бұрын
AJ as been a fantastic champion and he'll probably be a 3 time world champion shortly and it would surprise me if he gets the chance of being a unification world champion. You can achieve anything in life if you give it your all and he definitely does that. One of the greatest ever British boxers
@radioactivepotato2068
@radioactivepotato2068 2 ай бұрын
Say what you like, we can talk about talent all day, but AJ will, for me, almost certainly go down as the era's outstanding HW. It'll look a solid career when reflected upon, particularly compared to Fury's.
@saintdon4461
@saintdon4461 2 ай бұрын
who joshua beat?
@vanguard8889
@vanguard8889 2 ай бұрын
Talk about low IQ analysis. Usyk whooped him TWICE!
@rogerdavies2796
@rogerdavies2796 2 ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@footballunitedtv8381
@footballunitedtv8381 2 ай бұрын
lewis is a 3x world champion
@jasonmunro1983
@jasonmunro1983 2 ай бұрын
Exactly don’t know how they don’t know that
@stuarth6153
@stuarth6153 2 ай бұрын
He's done everything accept be undisputed (which is what he wanted to do) so if he's happy to retire we have to respect that. He's come up short but he took on all challengers and made generational wealth for his family. As a fan I couldn't of asked for more.
@adeoluwafatokun3559
@adeoluwafatokun3559 2 ай бұрын
I dont want Aj to fight before Fury vs Usyk is sorted out.
@wisescapes
@wisescapes 2 ай бұрын
Lenox was 3 times
@nelsoninthenorth6499
@nelsoninthenorth6499 2 ай бұрын
Beat me to it
@tonylyons9772
@tonylyons9772 2 ай бұрын
10:04 why not? AJ has never ducked a fight in his career he ain’t about to duck now,& AJ makes DD quit,thing with DD is,wen he gets hit to much he don’t like it & then looks for a way & dives to the canvas like he did vs usyk,he can give a bit but can’t take a lot imagine AJs shots bouncing of DD head,he’s getting sparked or diving on the canvas till the 10 count is up
@robmorrissey7816
@robmorrissey7816 2 ай бұрын
No he's not an all time gr8. But financially hes done very well - so job done.
@moltenmagma88
@moltenmagma88 2 ай бұрын
He's already a great
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 2 ай бұрын
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
@sammybeck4855
@sammybeck4855 2 ай бұрын
Sir Spectre and Sir Simon = Top LADS Proper Clobber
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 2 ай бұрын
@@sammybeck4855 Sir Sammy Beck = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
@Dan-qk3mt
@Dan-qk3mt 2 ай бұрын
Cringe
@sjc7189
@sjc7189 2 ай бұрын
I will say this. All the hate AJ gets is a joke. Heavyweight boxing will miss AJ so much when he retires. That’s a fact! He’s a great boxer, good character and he’s been extremely successful throughout his career.. for once the public should just admire what his done and say well done for a change. Instead of looking for a way to criticise
@13tgd
@13tgd 2 ай бұрын
100% AJ is going down as a great
@adeajibade402
@adeajibade402 2 ай бұрын
SIMON, Who are you to say it is distracting ???!?!!!
@claudeknox5319
@claudeknox5319 2 ай бұрын
This is supposed to be a boxing channel and all they talk about is Anthony Joshua who doesn't even have a fight scheduled. Why no analysis of Haney/Garcia or any non UK fight/fighter?
@bladerunner16
@bladerunner16 2 ай бұрын
He would have to beat Fury and Usyk to be considered an all-time great, and even then, it would be debatable.
@pandabear1576
@pandabear1576 2 ай бұрын
No he wouldn’t. He’s already one of the 20 greatest heavyweights of all time to this point based on his resume.
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma 2 ай бұрын
Usyk already defeated Anthony Joshua twice. Joshua ducked Undisputed with Wilder 3 times in 2018 and ducked Fury twice last year to fight Franklin and Helenius for no belt and less money
@bladerunner16
@bladerunner16 2 ай бұрын
@pandabear1576 He's not in the top 20 yet, based on achievements. Joshua's best win is still probably an ageing Klitshko.
@bladerunner16
@bladerunner16 2 ай бұрын
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma I honestly don't think he's ever ducked Wilder.
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma 2 ай бұрын
@@bladerunner16 Joshua first talked about ducking Wilder in 2017. He told Johnny Nelson on Toe2Toe podcast in Oct 2017. "I’m going to do things my way. If Wilder works we’re going to make it happen, if Wilder isn’t the right opponent for next year, then we’ll put it back into 2019.But I’m just going to do things my way, people just can’t rush my career, that’s what I’ve learnt. I’ve got a career I need to map it out, I’m going to take fights at the right time for me and if it’s next year or the year after or the year after when I fight him I’ll be in a position to beat him."
@HuwEvans.
@HuwEvans. 2 ай бұрын
Anthony Joshua is a two time unified heavyweight champion. Olympic gold medalist. He has 7 world championships defences. 5 sold out stadium fights. 4 out of the top 5 UK PPV sales of all time, all well over a million. You can hate him if you want, but his career speaks for itself. God bless 🙏
@THE.MARQUESS
@THE.MARQUESS 2 ай бұрын
Your 💯 right but he’s not a all time great one of the best in this time but that’s not saying a lot my friend
@TheRetroManRandySavage
@TheRetroManRandySavage 2 ай бұрын
@@Broccoli31256 I'm beginning to think that Huw Edwards is Anthony Joshua's burner account.😂
@JoeSchmo395
@JoeSchmo395 2 ай бұрын
You've not answered the question though fella
@boxinggospel5334
@boxinggospel5334 2 ай бұрын
Not sure what sold out stadiums has to do with achievements of being a great boxer. It's not. Jake Paul could do that too.
@LPTFC
@LPTFC 2 ай бұрын
Sport is not about sold stadiums and ppvs
@markmorris7123
@markmorris7123 2 ай бұрын
I don't know..But right now his career is better than Furys..Beaten three times as many ring top tens, More title fights, more title defenses...Obviously if Fury beats Usyk then Fury being undisouted puts him ahead..
@solom465
@solom465 2 ай бұрын
Not to devalue undisputed but it's really more about circumstance than ability, especially if you aren't having to unify the division and go through top contenders.
@jasonmunro1983
@jasonmunro1983 2 ай бұрын
Lennox Lewis is a 3 time heavyweight champion not a 2 time. Casuals
@chrismorgan9460
@chrismorgan9460 2 ай бұрын
All time greats do not get stopped by Andy Ruiz whilst in your prime, quite simple. A good heavyweight in a poor era. In most era's he would get no further than a top 10 contender.
@Lockyoriginal1
@Lockyoriginal1 2 ай бұрын
Seriously- AN ALL TIME GREAT ! Who the fu.k are you comparing him too ? FOREMAN 76 fights - 5 losses, MARCIANO 49 fights - 0 losses, LOUIS 66 fights - 3 losses, DEMPSEY 53 fights - 6 losses, LISTON 50 fights - 4 losses, HOLMES 69 fights - 6 losses - l could go on for a while tbh. AJ 28 fights - 3 losses - who are you comparing him too !!! 😂😂😂😂
@TheJoker-um9tp
@TheJoker-um9tp Ай бұрын
Mike Tyson didn't fight for a world title until his 26th fight. Mike Tyson started at 13 boxing, Joshua at 18 . Comparing Marciano who was 14 stone , floyd Patterson would be a light heavyweight now . George foreman after his first loss fell apart mentally . His words. Evander holyfield lost to James toney a middleweight lol. All you can be is the best of his era . Just like Tyson, Lewis, holyfield, you have uysk, fury, Joshua. For me wilder hasn't beaten any top heavyweight from this era . Anyway his career hasn't finished, if Joshua ends up 3x heavyweight champion then he will go down as a great.
@adeajibade402
@adeajibade402 2 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan !!! How is going on Johnathan Ross show not good thing?!? What is not good for Joshua to EVER come on the Simon Jordan Talk Sport show..
@MyTing775
@MyTing775 2 ай бұрын
Joshua is a brand thats all. Put him in the 70s or 80s and no one would of heard of him. If he fights usky again and beats fury as well then maybe a legend for an average era but he aint gonna beat either.
@ridwanpatel1397
@ridwanpatel1397 2 ай бұрын
Mark my words. AJ will beat Tyson but only because in two years time Tysons legs will be totally gone. Just like AJ got klitschko at the end same with fury. No disrespect to AJ. Still a top fighter.
@recodegamesstudio
@recodegamesstudio 2 ай бұрын
Luke fury fangirls making excuses already
@Mav90210
@Mav90210 2 ай бұрын
​@@recodegamesstudioYep, they are lining the excuses up, I bet the nxt they will be saying is Fury doesn't need to fight AJ😂
@dufud
@dufud 2 ай бұрын
@@Mav90210 if he beats usyk he doesn't .
@saunteronman
@saunteronman 2 ай бұрын
People keep forgetting that Usyk schooled AJ twice. How you could forget that tantrum in the ring is beyond me 😂
@Mav90210
@Mav90210 2 ай бұрын
@@dufud He's legacy will definitely take a big hit if he ducks AJ
@paulbowman1762
@paulbowman1762 2 ай бұрын
AJ HAS DONE WELL BUT EVEN IF HE WINS THE TITLE AGAIN YOU CANT SAY HE'S GREAT JUST LIKE TYSIN IS'NT GREAT ! THE WORD IS THROWN ABOUT TO LOOSELY JUST LIKE THE WORD LEGEND IS IMO 🥊ALI- FRAZIER AND FOREMAN IN THE SAME ERA WERE GREAT IMO JUST LIKE SUGAR RAY-MARVELLOUS- TOMMY AND ROBERTO ! NOW THATS GREATNESS IMO ? TYSON AND AJ DONT COME ANYWERE NEAR THE WORDS GREATNESS AND LEGENDS ? YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE A QUICK COMPARISON TO THE ABOVE NAMED GENTS ? LEGENDS FOREVER 👊🥊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@jacobsekatale6195
@jacobsekatale6195 2 ай бұрын
Some boxing fans you guys are
@d_exx.
@d_exx. 2 ай бұрын
Joshua is a decent heavyweight but got schooled by Usyk and quit against Ruiz.
@thelegendthatischels
@thelegendthatischels 2 ай бұрын
how did he quit if he stood up every time he got knocked down?
@emmettoliver
@emmettoliver 2 ай бұрын
​@@thelegendthatischels turned his back on the ref spat his gumshield and jacked
@DmDaPDm
@DmDaPDm 2 ай бұрын
Damn AJ lives rent free in your head huh? Lol such a random comment to make considering the convo. Clearly a hater.
@dangosypethau
@dangosypethau 2 ай бұрын
@@thelegendthatischels ref made him quit
@nelsoninthenorth6499
@nelsoninthenorth6499 2 ай бұрын
Why you guys keep bringing Ruiz back up? 😂 He avenged that loss. The only man he wasn’t able to defeat was Usyk who is an all time great. No shame in that
@ngqaphelimchunu4611
@ngqaphelimchunu4611 2 ай бұрын
DDD is the easiest fight for AJ. If you look at who he has fought over the past three years, DDD is an easy fight really.
@arronfifajanes08
@arronfifajanes08 Ай бұрын
No he’s not an all time great yet nowhere near that’s disrespectful of past all time greats he’s not done anything yet really needs a big win
@dylzdylz1003
@dylzdylz1003 2 ай бұрын
Anthony Joshua smokes Daniel Dubois lol come on
@freehammerskateboarding488
@freehammerskateboarding488 2 ай бұрын
He said a few years ago he will fight until 50. So loads of time left.
@thatfatguy2061
@thatfatguy2061 2 ай бұрын
No he didn’t though
@fearassassin5207
@fearassassin5207 2 ай бұрын
Fury said that aj didn't
@freehammerskateboarding488
@freehammerskateboarding488 2 ай бұрын
@@thatfatguy2061 He really did, Google it.
@freehammerskateboarding488
@freehammerskateboarding488 2 ай бұрын
@@fearassassin5207 I've left the link to prove it...
@freehammerskateboarding488
@freehammerskateboarding488 2 ай бұрын
@@fearassassin5207 they both have said it.
@trident8480
@trident8480 2 ай бұрын
The things Anthony Joshua has achieved and done for boxing isnt truly appreciated he was the star in the uk for boxing gave everything his downfall the people around him letting him breakdown after the usyk loss was bad
@cyberdog1162
@cyberdog1162 2 ай бұрын
Aj is only rebuilt until he meets the next elite boxer, then he gets beaten again
@guye94
@guye94 2 ай бұрын
There’s only a handful of elite boxers so what’s your point. AJ, Fury, Usyk are the only elite heavyweights out there so of course they can beat each other.
@fatrobdouble
@fatrobdouble 2 ай бұрын
Y'all got some serious credibility issues here, acting like Triple Knee could beat either Hrgovic or AJ. Triple Knee is heavy-handed, but he's a habitual quitter with limited boxing skills.
@Chickenbonetony
@Chickenbonetony Ай бұрын
Spencer really needs to get some respect for himself
@dazturbo1
@dazturbo1 2 ай бұрын
Repeat why ffs
@kieranbell9415
@kieranbell9415 Ай бұрын
Joshua is 34 not 35
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
Only out of touch people are going to say no , Fury Joshua and Wilder will all be there whenever,anyone who’s watched boxing long even knows this , Wilder will be there bc of number of title defenses and knockouts, Fury because he’s conned most no matter what he dies now and Joshua has become champion multiple times , unified in record tone and etc etc…….Usyk will also be there bc he’s a undisputed champion at Cruiserweight and possibly heavyweight ? You guys are out of touch with reality . Lol
@rogerdavies2796
@rogerdavies2796 2 ай бұрын
You're out of touch and clearly a boxing "casual".
@bladerunner16
@bladerunner16 2 ай бұрын
There is absolutely no way Wilder will be remembered as a great, none at all.
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
@@bladerunner16 You obviously are new to boxing and don’t know who was actually inducted into the hall of fame then Wilder was a champion with 10 title defenses much lesser accomplishments have got into the hall of fame not to mention he’s American so your crazy if you think they won’t induct him . Lol
@bladerunner16
@bladerunner16 2 ай бұрын
@UncleTermite Yeah, you're right, I've only been following boxing since 1979 🫣. Wilder is probably the most overrated Heavyweight champion I've ever seen and hes technically the worst (without doubt). He may well squeak into the hall of fame, but that doesn't mean he's a great boxer.
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
@@bladerunner16 Well then your oblivious. How did Shavers get into the hall of fame ? Quarry ? I can list many non champions the fact the you don’t understand how fighters get in is also obvious bc it’s not based on skill alone .lol
@BrAnDoN67k
@BrAnDoN67k 2 ай бұрын
If he knocks out fury and beats usyk then yes he would. But until then NO
@larrygerry985
@larrygerry985 2 ай бұрын
If he beats Fury and then cleans up Uysk..... maybe
@Karagjozi26
@Karagjozi26 2 ай бұрын
Aj will never lose to dubois,dubois has power but not ring iq
@saunteronman
@saunteronman 2 ай бұрын
Same reason a prime Usyk never loses to AJ
@pm-tt1mu
@pm-tt1mu Ай бұрын
lol aj a hall of famer now thats a good joke
@mineblock9024
@mineblock9024 2 ай бұрын
Not a chance
@davidjohnson4498
@davidjohnson4498 2 ай бұрын
Spencer is to AJ wat garath A Davis is to fury , carried away big time
@marcelmarizu1229
@marcelmarizu1229 2 ай бұрын
AJ has not beaten anyone. Almost got stopped by Wladimir Klitschko who was 42 years and 2 years out of the ring. That's AJ's best win to date.
@paulstephenson5815
@paulstephenson5815 2 ай бұрын
Also Fury’s best win and bottled the rematch 18 months earlier
@Yiealo6372jd
@Yiealo6372jd 2 ай бұрын
He’ll be a ‘great’ if this era, which isn’t a great era
@leonardenglish815
@leonardenglish815 2 ай бұрын
Because Fury is a bipolar it flip flops he loves being a loud mouth rattles like stones rattling in a metal drum what a gimmick to live for 😅😅😅
@punchy1325
@punchy1325 2 ай бұрын
Take a day of 😂😂😂
@vanguard8889
@vanguard8889 2 ай бұрын
Joshua almost got beat by a 40 year old version of Klitschko, got knocked the fk out by Ruiz, got schooled by Usyk TWICE... where's this "greatness"? Don't get me wrong, he's world-class but this generation belongs to either Fury or Usyk.
@psy-op
@psy-op 2 ай бұрын
💯 %
@eddieshez3457
@eddieshez3457 2 ай бұрын
Terrible take. He beat vlad, ko'ing him whilst ahead on all cards. Got beat by Ruiz vs a lucky punch and lost 2 very close fights with Usyk one a split decision. If he comes back and beats fury and usyk he will be up there with thr greatest of all time HWs
@AndiGomez-yu2dx
@AndiGomez-yu2dx 2 ай бұрын
@@eddieshez3457definitely not “a lucky punch” it was a very well timed hook to the temple during an exchange. Ruiz has very fast hands and tined that punch beautifully.
@psy-op
@psy-op 2 ай бұрын
@eddieshez3457 I think Vlad dropped AJ in the 5th, AJ couldn't recover for the whole of the next round a Vlad didn't pounce or do anything, Vlad let AJ off the hook. Your fav boy AJ got let off. And Ruiz dropped AJ fair and square.
@nelsoninthenorth6499
@nelsoninthenorth6499 2 ай бұрын
You can say the same about Fury, his best wins are Klitschko and Wilder…that’s it!! He still needs to beat AJ and Usyk to be considered this generation’s greatest. Your take is so off on those fights: 1) AJ was still a novice for a HW vs one of the GOATs in history. Of course he was gonna have moments of whether it was too soon, but he fought against adversity, got off the canvas and won! 2) he was stopped not KO’d cold like you making it sound lol. Relax yourself. He would go on to avenge that loss with a dominating and I’ll concede a safety first approach. 3) Usyk is the only man that AJ wasn’t able to beat. The former being an all time great, no shame in that.
@guye94
@guye94 2 ай бұрын
Anthony Joshua schools Dubois. Dubois is too green for AJ, won’t last the distance.
@VCanisMajorisY
@VCanisMajorisY 2 ай бұрын
AJ has dowe well, that cannot be argued but he lost TWO times to an all time great.
@matthewgaler6544
@matthewgaler6544 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@edwardhinton1615
@edwardhinton1615 2 ай бұрын
No. Just saved you 12 minutes.
@ag7337
@ag7337 2 ай бұрын
😂
@davebayliss3142
@davebayliss3142 2 ай бұрын
How has he redeemed himself ?
@abizzle100
@abizzle100 2 ай бұрын
Overall he has a better resume than any other heavyweight of his generation but he will never be an all time great. He might be mentioned as one of the best of his generation, but nowhere near all time great
@adamcunningham2511
@adamcunningham2511 2 ай бұрын
No
@agnikaineverdies7646
@agnikaineverdies7646 2 ай бұрын
Nope
@paulgrant666
@paulgrant666 2 ай бұрын
no. he wont.
@eoinmaguire860
@eoinmaguire860 2 ай бұрын
No hasn't fought fury are wilder he ducked them for 6 years all about money .greed
@dwaynejones7266
@dwaynejones7266 2 ай бұрын
All time great? No. tyson fury won't be an all time great either. These man just ain't up there in comparison to actually heavy weight greats
@dangosypethau
@dangosypethau 2 ай бұрын
probably have to go sooner, hardly gonna trouble Usyk or Fury
@recodegamesstudio
@recodegamesstudio 2 ай бұрын
AJ smashes luke fury
@Mav90210
@Mav90210 2 ай бұрын
AJ destroys Fury. Not sure he ll beat Usyk
@JohnORourke.
@JohnORourke. 2 ай бұрын
All time great? Usyk beat him twice!
@Jay12127
@Jay12127 2 ай бұрын
Fair play to him but he’s never beaten a champion to win a belt
@tamainslie2665
@tamainslie2665 2 ай бұрын
Parker? 😂
@Jay12127
@Jay12127 2 ай бұрын
@@tamainslie2665 wrong
@tamainslie2665
@tamainslie2665 2 ай бұрын
@@Jay12127 so he never beat Parker and took his WBO belt? Sounds like a champion to me 🤔
@Jay12127
@Jay12127 2 ай бұрын
@@tamainslie2665 it was a vacant belt that Parker fought for,so who has AJ beat who was a legit world champion to win a belt??
@GrimReaper...
@GrimReaper... 2 ай бұрын
​@@tamainslie2665Guess we just imagined the Parker fight that never happened and AJ didn't beat Ruiz either
@bigfunn229
@bigfunn229 2 ай бұрын
None of these heavyweights in this era will go down as an all time great,not even usyk if he defeats fury or vicer versa,why because there's not an all time great to fight in their era,so how can any be deemed an all time great,people keep talking complete garbage about boxing,Frank Bruno would of knocked them all out,so would the English boxers just underneath him,like Gary mason,horace notice,big bad james oyebola,even cruiserweight moved up to be heavy weight world champion, herbie hide would of beat any of these heavy weights today,these lad's are fooling no one,and please don't call Vladimir an all time great,as whose on his record who was an all time great?
@whatevermakesyouhappy5932
@whatevermakesyouhappy5932 2 ай бұрын
All time great? 😂😂
@selahstrong1027
@selahstrong1027 2 ай бұрын
If he retires, he won't have won against Usyk, Fury, or Wilder. Not even a great of this generation let alone an all time great.
@letsgettothemarks
@letsgettothemarks 2 ай бұрын
All this stupud chat about 4 times heavyweight champ in Alis day there wasnt 4 belts. In this era there are 4 lots of top tens so 40 top ten fighters. Ooh i fought a top ten guy! Yeah you mean a top 40 guy. When there was one belt every title fight was for undisputed. If you fought the 4th best guy it was number 4. Now the 4th best guy might acutally be 16th best. Comparing era is beyond low iq I cant believe these guys do it. Floyd mayweather and Canelo have fought a million world title holders but lets face it in every division there are 4 bloody champions4 number 2s etc if you move through 2 or 3 weight classes you could win 12 world titles. Resume is much more important than titles. DDD will of had 2 title shots Dillian whyte had to wait 3 years at the top until he was way off prime. Boxing is dumb. Champions fight once or twice a year so all divisions are held up. When there was 1 belt you still got 3 or 4 fights a year. Oh well rant over
@GrimReaper...
@GrimReaper... 2 ай бұрын
When people say top ten they mean divisional ratings like ring magazine that includes all champions in the top ten
@alsayedfakhri4597
@alsayedfakhri4597 2 ай бұрын
Probably, yeah if he can beat Fury. For now, not all time but possibly a Hall of Famer.
@marcelmarizu1229
@marcelmarizu1229 2 ай бұрын
AJ has not beaten anyone. Almost got stopped by Wladmir Klitschko who was 42yrs and 2yrs out of the ring. That's AJ best win till date
@UncleTermite
@UncleTermite 2 ай бұрын
Deontay Wilder will even be a hall of famer so that’s a big no if you really think he won’t be inducted as a multiple time champion who actually brought this era to the spot light .
@--__--........----___
@--__--........----___ 2 ай бұрын
He hasn't got the resume to be considered an ATG.
@HisExcellency.B
@HisExcellency.B 2 ай бұрын
*ALEX BELOTTI BURNER*
@wazha2623
@wazha2623 2 ай бұрын
Who has that resume in current HW.. The last time I checked, he has the best resume than every other current heavy weight
@andygrey8971
@andygrey8971 2 ай бұрын
No AJ ain't no great rematchroom Eddie carefully kept AJ away from fightn proper killers he got KO'd by a lil fat boi then ran away n wudnt engage in the rematch then got skooled by another small fighter so no he gets toyed with n destroyed by fury
@Dan-qk3mt
@Dan-qk3mt 2 ай бұрын
Two time, unified world Champion; he already is an all time great. Just can’t agree that Fury is though; Stinking the place out to beat Wlad on points, never rematching him and getting to the other HW great-fraud Windmill first doesn’t prove it for me personally?
@abb7118
@abb7118 2 ай бұрын
Translation, he lost to Ruiz, won the rematch.
@HisExcellencyB
@HisExcellencyB 2 ай бұрын
Herbie Hide is a two time Heavyweight champion but you've probably never heard of him cos he boxed before 2013 and isn't Fury or AJ
@bladerunner16
@bladerunner16 2 ай бұрын
He's not an all-time great, don't be daft.
@HisExcellencyB
@HisExcellencyB 2 ай бұрын
He's been a good British-World Champion like Johnny Nelson or Ricky Burns but nowhere near an All Time Great
@HisExcellency.B
@HisExcellency.B 2 ай бұрын
*ALEX BELOTTI BURNER*
@Inmyownleague
@Inmyownleague 2 ай бұрын
Oh look its the guy who's wife keeps semi-naked posters of AJ on her wall 😂😂😂
@fearassassin5207
@fearassassin5207 2 ай бұрын
Bet fury would make it if he was 3x world champ wouldn't he? 🤦‍♂️🤡😂
@HisExcellencyB
@HisExcellencyB 2 ай бұрын
@@fearassassin5207 who are you referring to as a 3x world champion?? Ricky Burns?
@Inmyownleague
@Inmyownleague 2 ай бұрын
I think the key wins Joshua needs on his resume is Fury and wilder. He needs to beat most of the champions of this era.
@rockybalboap7763
@rockybalboap7763 2 ай бұрын
Most over payed over rated boxer in boxing history? hes lost 3 out of 4 of his last fights ? the warmup fights dont count? And he says ? people under estimate me? Andy ruiz jnr made him look silly? then you get his fanboys saying whats fury done? I dont care what furys done? he was given the olympic gold medal? he never won a round? legacy of what? Conning fans of there ppv money fighting bin men?
@anthonyspinks2640
@anthonyspinks2640 2 ай бұрын
He is not only an all time great in his corner shop!!😡😡
@pauldaniels1503
@pauldaniels1503 2 ай бұрын
There isn't any all time greats in this era . Not by comparison, put any of the top tier heavyweights today up against those from the 80's and 90's , they would ALL be knocked sparko
@DanielMarriot35
@DanielMarriot35 2 ай бұрын
Aj will beat fury its not difficult.
@Liamw565
@Liamw565 2 ай бұрын
Very good career yes but an ATG career? Just no
@PatrickFitzgerald..
@PatrickFitzgerald.. 2 ай бұрын
People are throwing this out of proportions he just ko’d an MMA bum who had no business being there with him
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