Will ChatGPT destroy everything?

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[@electric7487]

Someone elsewhere commented recently, "I'm not too concerned with the rise of artificial intelligence, I'm more concerned with the decline of real intelligence." Or, as many wise people have stated, *_"Before we go all in on artificial intelligence, why don't we do something about natural stupidity?"_*

[@Virtualblueart]

Why not both 😄

[@some_haqr]

It's intentional

[@ybungalobill]

AI got good enough to fool stupid people into thinking it's intelligent. Given how unintelligent ChatGPT actually is, it's horrifying that most people are even worse than that.

[@UnitedTheLegend]

If you thought those major computer viruses/data leaks were already bad enough, just wait until someone manages to do that to a massively integrated A.I.

[@ViewOf]

People have always been stupid.

[@truthbetold444]

Well that was depressing. Now I need to have ChatGPT write something to cheer me up.

[@tuseroni6085]

just for you i asked chatgpt to write a poem about a puppy: A little puppy full of grace and charm, With wagging tail and playful bark so warm, It brings a smile to every heart and face, With boundless energy and lively pace. Its eyes are bright, its fur is soft and fine, And when it barks, it sounds like chimes that chime. It follows you with love wherever you go, A faithful friend, a constant light aglow. Its playful leaps, its warm and wet embrace, A joy to all who see it race and chase. It doesn't matter what the world may bring, This little pup will always make us sing. So here's to you, dear puppy, small and bold, A treasure to us, worth more than gold. May you be happy, healthy, and adored, And always loved, forever more.

[@ScallopHolden]

@@tuseroni6085 haha it cheered me up

[@ritishify]

@@tuseroni6085 Wow, that's just as impressive and concerning as this video made it out to be. I don't find it depressing though. It's not necessarily my win, but it is a win considering what humans can achieve, I guess. Edit: just to put it in perspective for anyone who reads this: guy asked for a poem and within like 15 mins. that poem was summoned, lol. And it only took that long because someone had to actually look for it and post it here but it was probably generated in seconds.

[@tuseroni6085]

@Löwenstolz there are PEOPLE who never develop morals. i wouldn't hold out for AI to.

[@minyaksayur]

@@lowenstolz9147 the problems are morality defined by people, ultimately the AI mimic their creators. it's like scientist creates nukes for energy, but people use them for weapons. if it's scientist ai, then it has science morals, if it's war-monger ai, well then you know. if it reaches singularity, it will ultimately decide, people are the problems

[@MClollolol]

Your channel has changed my life forever by keeping truth and science at the forefront of my mind. The fact youve stayed 'relevant' to me and my wandering interests for over a decade is kind of neat. Thanks so much Thunderfoot

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

The sad thing is, you (we) are in a very small minority...

[@PanzerAce760]

Cuz he was spot on concerning covid huh?

[@yes-fd3iv]

It's sad to think that machines are able to do everything thunderfoot can do but better. As he said in this video, feelings matter more than facts. Somebody can input data of his dialog and this ai can replicate his personality with it. Mere seconds is all it takes. you may ask yourself, "but it's just text on a screen", what harm can that do? Well, ever heard of deep fakes and voice replicators? Just input his face into some sorta deep fake machine, and give the voice replicators some of his dialog and BOOM. You have everything you need to create your own little thunderfoot that says whatever you want him to say. It may sound hopeless, but it uses data to do stuff. It cannot stray too far from the parameters, and it's unable to be creative. Which means it basically just copy and pastes stuff and combines it with other stuff from it's collection of data. Now, the way they attained this data is questionable to say the least. Some people resort to suing the corporation's who used this data.

[@user-xl9yd7ef1w]

he's been wrong about so many things though? lol

[@harrycooper5231]

@@user-xl9yd7ef1w He's been spot on about everything I've seen him cover, but admittedly I haven't seen all his work. What science did he get wrong?

[@hedemegmondom]

"Some battles you know you can not win, but sometimes it's not about winning or losing, but how much you make them bleed for it" a Sun Tzu moment by Thunderfoot

[@unsteadyeddy3107]

A.I. doesn't bleed.

[@Astrogator1]

@@unsteadyeddy3107 no it doesn’t, but the people abusing it can literally or metaphorically

[@ashscott6068]

Every single thing in The Art of War is like: "Try not to shoot your own foot off", or "Kill the enemy and they can't kill you afterwards", or "Don't pull the crayon out of your enemy's nose". Every single thing in it is painfully obvious. It really is a load of crap.

[@hedemegmondom]

@@ashscott6068 I compared that quote to Sun Tzu just because he's so well known. But yes, I totally agree with you. He was stating the obvious, literally like "your sword will rust in salt water" type of things.

[@n0xure]

​@@ashscott6068 Yeah, but that's kind of the point isn't it? It's not so obvious when horse archers are trying to set your army's tents on fire every night and everyone is getting really pissed off about it.

[@inadaizz]

I can't help but consider... you were one of the people who academically inspired me to achieve more than I might have otherwise... I'm glad you're a person and not a bot who did that for me haha.

[@giantidiot31]

Hypothetically: what difference would it make if it turned out that Thunderf00t has been a super advanced AI project?

[@inadaizz]

​@@giantidiot31 I find software based academic remodels less compelling and inspiring. A person is a representation of what humans can achieve. I do not feel the same inspiration when I see a calculator solving a complex math problem as I do when I did it with one of my professors etc.

[@thehoogard]

Long gone are the times when Thunderfoot said that the internet is the place where bad ideas come to die :(

[@lamcho00]

That's because most people don't go on the internet to find the truth with an open mind. They come in search to validate their believes, no matter if they are wrong or not. I've seen numerous occasions where anti-vaccers quote PubMed studies or reports by title or Abstract section because they read something that they think confirms their believes, without actually going through the content. Usually in the full article there is a Discussion section where the doctors provide possible explanations or at least provide an educated guess. The anti-vaccers also never happen to search for evidence against their believes (because there would be an overwhelming amount of those) and assign the same value to that one odd study as to meta-analysis or systematic reviews on said topic. They also never read the paper limitations or review part where criticism may be present. Though I wouldn't say the war on misinformation is lost. Lay people would most likely never learn how to use those tools properly, the same way they didn't learn to analyze information properly. And while more misinformation can be easily created, so can more videos be checked for fallacies (provided we'll get logically reasoning AI some time soon). ChatGPT is not really good at logical reasoning or at least it makes errors quite often when a topic becomes a bit more complicated. So I doubt it can be used for fact checking.

[@mazocco]

Well it is still here, nowhere else. But they are born at much higher numbers.

[@KevinUchihaOG]

damn, yeah, we were naive 15 years ago. Pre-mass adoptation of social media it really seemed like the internet would bring enlightenment to the world.

[@KevinUchihaOG]

holy fuck, i wrote my comment before watching the video and at 1:45 he basically said what i wrote lol

[@MrTaxiRob]

@@KevinUchihaOG that's because TF is an AI

[@sanjaybhatikar]

It is the hype cycle at work, from “It will cure cancer” to “It can’t even fix my broken toaster” to “It can replace stackoverflow and run a call center sort-of”.

[@shitmandood]

It's the Fountain of Youth.

[@Roxas99Yami]

anything can replace stack overflow. Because SO is just a bunch of basement dwellers from reddit

[@jeffreygordon7194]

@@Roxas99Yami no way. The rigid weirdos at stack overflow could never deal with the repetitive noob questions that include code snippets taken on a phone's camera of a blurry computer monitor.

[@RmDIrSudoSu]

@@jeffreygordon7194 I don't understand why this is not working ? #include public static void main($argc, $argv: string): System.out.println('Hello world'); Console.readline(); can you help me ? Joke apart, even these noob question need answers, if it can help them improve. I've had worse than that as student when I was teaching.

[@DrWhom]

I just saw a maths crank trying to "teach" it wrong calculus.

[@LoneTiger]

_"In battles between logic and emotion, I have never seen logic win yet."_ - Sam Starfall (Freefall)

[@Xafnir]

During the entire video, the 1 thing on my mind, the thing I was dreading the most was the chance that I might hear you say you are quitting. When I got to the end, I sighed a sigh of relief that you'll still be around "making them bleed". Keep up the great work!

[@unfortunatebeam]

Why would he quit? His account is bigger than ever.

[@keld101]

"Speaks Mexican" I applaud your candor, sir.

[@savage1267]

I giggled.

[@bearclaw-es1nu]

No, people care. It's equivalent to saying "Speaking American". It sounds absurd to the people within that culture. I'm sure he didn't mean it that way; but there is a big difference between Mexican Spanish and Spain Spanish and a larger difference between their respective culture's.

[@keld101]

@@bearclaw-es1nu That makes sense. Still funny to misinterpret.

[@abel8831]

I'm Mexican. I thought it was funny 😁

[@MrBlainehocky]

@jaden nik No one care but it makes Thunderfoot sound dumb. Not a good look when you're trying to educate.

[@pathologicaldoubt]

Your final sentiment was reassuring. Your content is incredibly valuable, maybe increasingly less so monetarily, but in the fight for the truth - which you can’t put a price on

[@F3udF1st]

$400

[@Johnson4o]

Man you are one of the best on KZbin, there have always been drones among us, but you have improved the lives of many by sharing your knowledge and promoting critical thinking. While the war against the whole of human stupidity has always seemed hopeless, you have won many battles. Thank you!

[@bennyk384]

Among us 😳😳

[@lg6707]

You sound like a massive tool by using the word drone.

[@xHamxNelson]

There has been so much AI stuff happening just recently, from a never-ending sitcom of Seinfeld & an AI chatbot on Twitch, AI-generated voice conversations with on-point impersonations, along with art & stories being created with only just a few keywords. It is interesting to see this all happening so quickly, but wow, this is getting scary.

[@infernaldaedra]

We are in such a hurry to have fake people running around,for what? People already fuc and multiply more than enough already. At least let an actual person be the one that says some stupid shit.

[@yes-fd3iv]

And it's gonna get much more scary. This ai stuff is progressing fast. We need to stop it. I disagree with what thunderbolt said about just fighting it. I don't want to just fight it, I want to kill it. I don't want my programming career to be taken up by some ai that's made by some money hungry cooperation. If artists jobs are getting taken over, no job is safe. Eventually there's gonna be no jobs left for us. I doubt this nation will fair well with this new thing. And the only thing I can do to slow this ai down is writing a comment on a video. But if it buys me time, then I'll sure as i'll keep doing it.

[@bst857]

@@yes-fd3iv it really depends how it turns out. AI is a paradigm shift, in the sense that, what is important now may be made unimportant after the shift. The outcome could be fine, I know you probably don't believe me, but I really think it could be. It'd just be a different way of life - one where you can do whatever you like and money is not really necessary anymore. On the other hand we could end up with enforcer drones patrolling neighbourhoods in a permanent lockdown, where obsolete humans are trapped in their homes until they die of old age, or worse, the process hastened by shipping people off to extermination camps :) But in the end, this isn't something we can stop, the human race has been heading to this the whole time, its not going to stop now. We just have to try and encourage it to have a good outcome, rather than a bad one.

[@_Hal9000]

"AI" more like advanced algorithm

[@terraplane1116]

I don't know much about this stuff, but I've tested ChatGPT once, by asking it to write 500 words about life in the town where I live - the sort of thing journalists and PR people, who are supposed to be most at risk of redundancy thanks to AI, do day in, day out - and even with the entire internet to scavenge data from, not a single statement in the resulting article was true. It was basically a stack of cliches and verbal tics which would only have been credible to someone with no prior knowledge of the subject. AIs do seem to have the potential to replace human writers, but at the moment, or so it seems to me based on my limited experience, only the very worst human writers making the very worst job of the very simplest tasks. I suspect they may turn out to be like the Segway, a decent if limited product made ridiculous by being absurdly overhyped.

[@BackToTheStart47]

The problem with ChatGPT is that when it lies, It lies very convincingly.

[@DrWhom]

like a die, it will lie on any side

[@jobnieloliva5358]

I’ve tried to get it to lie and it refuses to do it without adding a disclaimer that the statement was a lie

[@ILikeMyPrivacytbt]

My biggest problem with ChatGPT is that I like to debate with people on KZbin to fight ignorance, but now those people can just use ChatGPT and all I will be doing it wasting my time while they think they are fighting ignorance. Thunderf00t is wrong in that emotion triumphs over reason, the reason emotion does so well is people ignore reason. Force it down their throat so they can't ignore it and people can give up ignorance in favor of reason.

[@paulplatt2622]

​@@ILikeMyPrivacytbtbe careful what you choose to label 'reason'...

[@memegazer]

@@ILikeMyPrivacytbt I wish this were true...but it is not often that reason defeats some belief that was never reached by reason in the first place. This is bc you can't literally force anybody to accept reason. And if you try, you probably are not being very reasonable about it.

[@garysheppard4028]

Seeing a Thunderf00t video while scrolling the net is like finding diamond in a turd mine.

[@brianb9555]

"A country that speaks Mexican"? 😵‍💫

[@TheKiyardo]

This one got me as well, not gonna lie.

[@nvel5612]

I scrolled down for this one.

[@nvel5612]

As a half Mexican who does not speak Mexican.. I am offended.

[@dave_id]

Seriously wtf

[@n0xure]

bait

[@SoulDragonWithFlow]

Being able to think logically, with one's head, and not one's heart, is a disturbingly, depressingly rare skill; it is practicaly a superpower. In such a world, misinformation will always be more powerful than truth on the internet, that doesn't mean truth is not worth fighting for.

[@someguydino6770]

Spot on, as AI evolves, critical thinking skills become more and more important to discern the shit from the shinola. LOVE the drops from Starship Troopers!

[@tuseroni6085]

only person i've heard use the idiom "shit from shinola" was my dad. idk if it's a regional thing or a generational thing (were you born in the late 50's early 60's? or in the midwest?)

[@MrTaxiRob]

most people are more Cypher than Neo, they're happy to pull the wool over their own eyes

[@someguydino6770]

@@tuseroni6085 Your research homework is to watch the film " The Jerk" . I model most of my behavior after that of the title character. good luck

[@someguydino6770]

@@MrTaxiRobDo you believe that my being stronger or faster has anything to do with my muscles in this place? Do you think that's air you're breathing now?

[@KiTheMC]

We'll be able to fact check information far easier too! Why does nobody mention this? There will be open sourced AI programs that retrieve publicly available information, interpret it, and present it to you. Staying sane and informed in the AI-dominated world we're headed for seems possible assuming physical eradication of humans through a bioweapon or something is off the table.

[@tsbrownie]

I've pretty much reached the same conclusion, except I think it will go far beyond youtube into things like book publishers, journals (even peer reviewed), news media, ... and all the "gate keepers" will be flooded with so much stuff that sounds good, it will be impossible for them to check it, and just as impossible for them not publish something. It's a race to the bottom. In that spirit, I was thinking of making a video where the stock images were a spoof of what was being said, Monte Python-ish.

[@Bashman1981]

There will always be a place for well crafted shoes, hand tailored suits, a meal cooked with skill and passion, and a well thought out argument. I think you make good points, and it's good to understand what is coming, but we can all do something to help. I've started telling KZbin that I'm not interested in obviously shoddy and mass produced content. If we all take the time to do that, hopefully the high quality and engaging things will find a bit more purchase in the algorithm. It encourages me that ingrained in our DNA are reactions like "The Uncanny Valley" that helps us spot CGI fakery, and I only hope that there is an equivalent that will always give a sense for when we're being misled by a machine. Thank you for your commitment to good argument, science, and well reasoned thought.

[@EEVblog]

Sadly, yep. Nice knowing you Phil, it was good while it lasted.

[@RichardThompsonCA]

I've seen a video just yesterday , they were showing off a voice AI that can be trained with only 3 minutes of data to sound very much like a specific person. I see creators using this to pump out even more videos at a breakneck pace. It's certainly going to be interesting. I wonder if this will be the pendulum swinging the other way. If everything online is fake, maybe people abandon it for the real world. Wishful thinking😃

[@yes-fd3iv]

I still have my doubts on the "Ai that can be trained on three seconds of data" thing. If that really existed, we would have a chat gpt capable of much more, eh? I don't even see any evidence stated in the articles of the "Ai that can be trained on 3 seconds of data". Just some diagrams of vague descriptions on how it'll work.

[@esbrasill]

There is a channel displaying a bot generated thunderfoot image and voice preaching satanism -> channel is called Parti_Ai

[@abdou.the.heretic]

Well reality frustrated the shit out of humans for them to seek virtuality to begin with... I won't lie, I bought a VR headset and a VR capable PC to my youngest, and while using it to play games, my son put some game about space and the universe, I could go everywhere, see whole galaxies, planets and nebulas. I bought myself the same set because there is np way in hell I'll physically be able to travel that far, that fast.

[@Lipi19821]

@@yes-fd3iv he said 180 seconds of data....and what if (audio) data is played at 100x speed? lol

[@gonko222]

@@Lipi19821 Actually, speeding up audio is a lossy process, audio files have a set bitrate, one of the most common being 320kbps, when you speed up a recording, you're losing information from that recording at the expense of audible speed, which is why when you speed up a recording, the file size will be lower at the same bitrate, you can test this by speeding up a recording by say 10x, saving it, reopening and slowing it down by 10x, it won't sound the same. :)

[@MrBalkanx3Mix]

Kinda crazy whats going on in the US. There are certainly milieus in Europe as well, that spend most time on the internet, but most of the elder I know just discovered how Netflix works here and the younger generations more and more abandon social media since its extremely toxic and many start to realize that. I also recently saw a demographics analysis that millenials and the younger generations here start to distrust basically everything and honestly this is necessary in times like these.

[@infernaldaedra]

Even the government is toxic lol

[@moejuggler6033]

This isn't exclusive to America friend. It's online...

[@VestigialHead]

Distrusting everything is about as bad as blindly trusting everything. Because the majority of people that distrust everything do not do actual research to work out what to trust. They simply become cynical conspiracy nutters. Science is designed to work out what claims we can trust. To ignore that is a serious peril for humanity.

[@newvocabulary]

@@infernaldaedra That's never not been the case though.

[@Rob_Enhoud]

I agree with your optimism here. Many worry about the affect of the Internet and social media on young minds. Personally I believe in the opposite. Kids aren't as stupid as many of us (now) old people think they are. From my perspective in middle age, social media has a far worse effect on the grandparents in the world than it does on the children in the world. (Of course this is just generally speaking, the opposite is true in innumerable cases as well.) Not only do I have faith that humanity will turn the corner is a positive direction with the Internet and AI, but historically speaking I think we're doing a far better job with this information revolution than we've done with information revolutions in the past. Film and radio preceded world war 2, telegraph preceded the American Civil War, printing press preceded War of The Roses; just to name a few. Fingers crossed we'll be able to quell the current regional conflicts.

[@Otharis]

Personally I've developed negative emotions on these overly flashy, bombastic, hypey video's. My brain automatically discards them on presentation alone. Just as the ads on websites are automatically discarded by my brain as well. I think that a lot of people will come to recognize the specific style of a given AI, and attach a value on it through experience. Also I think the search of 'truth' has been, and always will be one of the greatest challenges in a human life. So nothing has really changed, except maybe the difficulty-level had been stepped up a notch. Then again, the nativity / stupidity / rigidity of some people never cease to amaze me. There should probably be given more attention to critical thinking and rating of a source during education. Especially because if there's a gap in your knowledge, you can always ask an AI, which would be arguably worse than looking up a wiki article since its not moderated. On the other hand, with the interactiveness of for example chatGPT, you can get a better grasp of a subject you just read about (while at the same time verifying both). As always, your videos provide some good food for though!

[@huletnadof313]

Maybe people will come to recognize AI styles or maybe after a while they'll come to prefer them. Consider younger people growing up in an internet world where AI-generated content is pervasive and how that experience will mold them to the point where someone with a camera and a self-produced video is seen as quaint or even of crude quality.

[@Otharis]

​@@huletnadof313 Yes, I can totally see that happening. Or it'll become a specific style you can ask the AI to render/create context in. I'll just be counting fingers and teeth in future Thunderf00t videos

[@fonesrphunny7242]

We've spent enough time on the internet to filter out the crap that's just trying to get our attention, but not everybody has the time or will to spend that much time online. Just recently I watched a grown man enter the worst keywords into Google, click both "sponsored results", getting frustrated and immediately quit. If there had been a legitimate looking solution for his problem, he would have fallen for it. Also, there is a reason why "Doctors hate when you know THIS ...." ads STILL work. Now imagine "personalized content" based on this man's analytics data or data collected by malware. An AI could almost instantly create an entire website just to fool this specific person, and do it in parallel with hundreds of others. Train the AI to avoid anything that could be considered a red flag and fake websites will look incredibly convincing, especially to the ignorant / uneducated / impatient / impaired. Part of the internet is exploitation, AI is going to make it much easier, so this is most likely where we're heading.

[@linsqopiring6816]

I think the AI can be told to change styles and teach itself how to do that pretty effectively.

[@Mustombrider]

Yes. Before the internet, there was a lot of human produced bullshit anyway. They also vastly outnumbered the truth but it didn't stop humans from searching and finding it.

[@HarryBalzak]

You are not good to defeat evil. You are good despite evil. You walk the path and carry the torch to light the way for others behind you.

[@evilbron666]

An Australian Senator (I think the education minister) gave a speech in parliament about the dangers of ChatGP to the education system last week. After 90 seconds of his speech, he stopped and admitted he had not written any of the previous speech, but had asked chatgp to explain the dangers of chatgp to the Australian education system in 90 seconds. He then went on to explain for 2 minutes what could be done, giving several good options. After that, he admitted again that he had asked chat gp to produce that speech as well. I could not have picked it, was a pretty concise and well put together speech. interesting times :)

[@hugegamer5988]

This is your brain 🥚 This is your brain on chatGPT 🍳

[@unfortunatebeam]

Doesn't sound very interesting at all actually 😐

[@evilbron666]

@@unfortunatebeam cool comment, contributed heaps. thanks edgelord! XD

[@unfortunatebeam]

@@evilbron666 🤷‍♂️

[@ThermalLance-hg4rd]

What worries me with the whole AI thing is indeed misinformation. The whole covid ordeal have exposed how weak and poorly informed are the defences of many people toward misinformation. AI generated content will just make this a hell of a lot worse.

[@MrYoloNolo]

It definitely highlights a greater need for a higher bar for whatever is going to be considered a "trustworthy" source by the AI. But so far it doesn't seem like AI will be a suitable substitute for real time current news/information/content - a human will still be needed for that atm. They can definitely try to put a safety on it, but the geni is out of the bottle and one of us will inevitably find a way around any safeties.

[@SyntheticFuture]

And it's especially those people that will jump on these tools. They'll see it as an "intellectual equilizer". A quick fix to "not being that smart". It's troublesome and I'm afraid the damage is already done.

[@KT-pv3kl]

Which misinformation do you mean? The one perpetuated by the mass media and the governments or the "bad" kind of misinformation that doesn't follow "the narrative"

[@ThermalLance-hg4rd]

@@KT-pv3kl Which one is irrelevant to the point. This opens the floodgates to mass producing misinformation to be thrown at gullible people. This alone is a problem. You used to have to put effort to make something sound remotely legit to fool your flock, but soon, you'll only need a couple minutes to do that.

[@Axodus]

Tools like these aren't as scary as you think they are, just like all tools they can be used for good and bad, and nothing in the past has ended the world, unsurprisingly enough, society and humans adapted like they always do and used the tools of the past to improve society as a whole, I see no reason to see ChatGPT as any different.

[@aurorajunior6328]

The world needs more thunderf00t. For the good of all of us.

[@frenger99]

As a language model, ChatGPT has been trained on a large corpus of text data and has the ability to generate responses that are relevant and coherent. By engaging in conversations with users, ChatGPT can help facilitate a more rational discourse online by providing accurate information, clarifying misunderstandings, and encouraging thoughtful and respectful communication. Furthermore, ChatGPT can help reduce the impact of misinformation and fake news by providing reliable and fact-based information to users. This can help combat the spread of harmful or inaccurate information that can lead to irrational or harmful discourse. Overall, by providing a knowledgeable and unbiased perspective, ChatGPT can help promote rational and productive discussions online.

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

This very much feels like it was written with ChatGPT.

[@ds_e5202]

21:04 “Just like I was first, I will be last” is such a good and underrated reference. I had to come back to this video several weeks late just to look for it because I randomly thought of it myself and I had to check to see if you used it.

[@gamemakertim]

I think you do add a lot of personality to your videos, which makes them fun to watch. It's not just the arguments you make in the videos, it's how you make them. That (I think) won't be replaced by bots soon.

[@yes-fd3iv]

I wish to believe in that, but I'm simply unable to. I'd hate to ruin your day, but by inputting data into chat gpt, you can replicate anything. And it gets MUCH worse. You can also replicate his face, and voice with deep fake and voice replication technology. Combine those three things, and you get your own thunderboot puppet that you control. Eventually this will get more advanced and you won't be able to tell the difference. I want this ai to go a different path. But it's taking a path that's less than ideal for us in the future. It'll steal our minds, and our jobs. How? Who would rather write a paragraph themselves when they can just have a ai do it for them. And that's how they get you. Those paragraphs you wrote yourself strengthened your ability to think, but now there's this ai that does it automatically for you. Oh yeah, and your jobs? Why have a human do it when you can have a robot do it for you 1000 times faster. And there goes your career. Now your purposeless, and without meaning. How does anybody live there life without meaning?

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Not yet anyway...

[@soundscape26]

He could drop the movie clips though... I find it annoying and super distracting.

[@poppyrider5541]

That's not the point. The point is new ppl wont find the videos. AI content is going to swamp this is site. It's going to become as braindead and cable. Sure there are some good shows but the vast majority is junk food for the eyes.

[@bucherregaldomi9084]

@@yes-fd3iv hmmm my man, it seems you are trapped within your biases, I mean we all are, but as a person with different biases, I can tell you how you look from the outside. When you say about AI "It'll steal our minds, and our jobs.", this is false. A person that wants to write a paragraph themselves, will do it regardless of the existence of AI. A good example is this very paragraph, I take great pleasure in writing it, and I write it even if there was an AI that would do it better. Now, when you say about our jobs "And there goes your career. Now your purposeless, and without meaning.", the problem is not the existence of AI, the problem is the redistribution of wealth. Take for instance, many programming jobs are not made by white straight males, but rather by brown people in foreign lands. I say this as an IT worker, you only need internet and GIT to do programming for any company from anywhere in the world. In this example, the brown people are the AI, taking the jobs of the straight white males. And you could blame the brownies, you could blame the AI, because now white peeps undergo more poverty, but the person who took the decision to hire an AI, is the real guilty person. If we redistributed wealth, the straight white males would not be poor, and the AI would do the work. People would work in what they want. I would keep working even if there are no market needs for my abilities, because contrary to what you said, a job is not what makes a person "purposeless, and without meaning", we can derive meaning by ourselves, without needing a labor market to dictate us what is our meaning.

[@DiminishingAugmentation]

6:19 "Like if you wanna speak Greek in a society that speaks Mexican." Thunderf00t pulled a Jesse Pinkman.

[@jinzok]

What is the language "Mexican" ??

[@infernaldaedra]

ALOT of White privileged in the US tend to use the Phrase. "I don't speak Mexican." O,r "I only speak American..." Lol

[@QBG]

I can't decide whether he really doesn't know that they speak Spanish in Mexico, or if he included this line deliberately to trigger rubes like us into driving engagement in the comments.

[@Frost_Saber]

@@QBG You got jebaited, you got, you got jebaited!

[@pluto8404]

Well first we have to define what separates one language from another. Mexicans have lots of unique words, that are specific to them. If you go to spain and mention burritos people wont know what language you are speaking.

[@sisouhzl5645]

I have an enormous respect for you, you are a role model to me. Thank you for all your efforts sir !

[@MilesProwerTailsFox]

Today I spoke to chatgpt and we got into a argument about how ai and humans should interact and chatgpt said that humans are needed for machines to continue existing and if humans got extinct machines would stop existing too

[@SwatZombie]

How I would have loved ChatGPT as a school kid when we were assigned essays

[@K31TH3R]

Recently I've had quite a few alarming thoughts on that subject. A disturbing statistic is that 54% of U.S. citizens aged 16-74 cannot read or write beyond a 6th grade level, and I can't help but wonder how much that statistic will skew once we've had a few generations whom relied on A.I. to do all their reading and writing (and thinking) for them. Each passing day, 'Idiocracy' just seems more and more prophetic.

[@giustinoscalise3177]

I wonder if it's capable of writing a thousand different essays on the same subject, or if will essentially write the same thing when a particular subject is given to it. If 10 kids in class command it to write an essay on the battle of the sharters at Tijuana in 1914, would it be obvious that those 10 kids used bullfuckery?

[@K31TH3R]

@@giustinoscalise3177 It depends on the length of the source material, but even with less information to feed it from a shorter subject, you could still tune it to be unique by introducing random minor grammatical or spelling errors. I imagine teachers will also be using A.I. to help determine if the paper in question was composed by A.I., which makes the situation even more ridiculous.

[@giustinoscalise3177]

@@K31TH3R Wow that's nuts. And this is just the beginning...

[@DrWhom]

@@giustinoscalise3177 It is reasonably good at gluing together sentences that might (with some good will) be read as following logically upon one another. At the level of one paragraph to the next, or the more global level, it quickly becomes apparent that it does not really understand anything of what it's been saying: non sequiturs, weird repetitions, contradictions. Sadly, this is also how roughly one third of the students the UK's top institutions write. It is not the software that is passing the Turing test; it is the humans who are failing it.

[@psyberdelicxp6042]

That video editing timeline is a work of art. "Who cares, it gets attention " is basically the problem with most of the internet and people.

[@N1c0T1n3__]

Yeah, there's one big problem with ChatGPT. It's that governments won't able to control it. Just take a look at the recent war and the historic use of propaganda via modern media channels. If the US government isn't able to control all of NATO's screwups and ChatGPT essentially gives it a search boost, the US government is not going to like it one bit. So basically, if and when it realizes that ChatGPT is a "direct threat" to their propaganda efforts, it will be nuked overnight. What governments and politicians crave the most is control. As they will cease to exist without control.

[@Charon-5582]

Its called marketing, its a terrible problem these days.

[@yiannchrst]

The road looks tough ahead, but I'll be with you all the way!

[@Cocaina92]

6:20 As a mexican, I can confirm I speak mexican and not spanish

[@akumabito2008]

Definitely a "wait... wut??" moment.

[@AnonyMouseYGO]

Immediately looked for this comment when I heard that made laugh

[@nvel5612]

Yes I scrolled down for this. nice!

[@letMeSayThatInIrish]

Thunderf00t doesn't seem to realise Mexican, like Spanish, is just a Portuguese accent.

[@davidg4288]

That actually makes sense. North of the border we don't really speak English either. We speak some American or Canadian dialect. I'm sure Quebec French is unique as well. There's even a Pennsylvania Dutch German dialect spoken here by the Amish that is not used in Germany any more.

[@K31TH3R]

This grim glimpse into the future brought to you in part by the removal of the dislike counter.

[@ohmyfynbos6070]

Climate events seem to be a magnet for these technologies on YT, for example the recent atmospheric river storms in California and the Sierra Nevada range. Amongst the hallmarks are often surreal title frames, binary title captions, disembodied yet almost seamless narration, slightly out of step intonation and inflection, yet decent video footage, almost certainly not filmed by the channel "creator". The overall product can be disturbingly authoritative, while all that's actually been composed is a slick regurgitation. A most timely contribution, Dr. Mason. Thank you.

[@Ocyla]

I had a friend in our content dev department at work show me how they could write up a script, and have an AI voice say it however they wanted. No more flat speech, you could add inflection and everything. It's really something.

[@graciouscalf]

education gets you to the point where understanding makes you feel good. I still remember the amazing feeling that came across me when I had this aha moment watching a professor dave video about arenes and aromaticity while studying for an exam

[@orchdork775]

Yes! I just wish there was more engaging science content on KZbin. I feel like I've already watched all of it 😂

[@graciouscalf]

@@orchdork775 yea and a lot of "science" on here is total BS. you have to be careful.

[@tuseroni6085]

the uneducated also feel good when they come to understand something better, it's why conspiracy theories are so abundant, they give the cheap illusion of a greater understanding with none of the work or real world applications. it's the intellectual equivalent to junk food. and this isn't to say the educated are any less prone to conspiracy theories, cus they are not, they just aren't prone to the SAME conspiracy theories as the uneducated.

[@xehP]

sounds vaguely similar to the dunning kruger effect.

[@graciouscalf]

@@tuseroni6085 yep well said. Educated people can sometimes be more prone to it because they think they are educated and that they couldnt possibly be wrong about it. Its how people with legitimate degrees end up working for Answers in Genesis.

[@paulfun8720]

You and your personality are a huge reason you are successful and it isn't going to change due to AI. You will be among the survivors so don't stop.

[@Gatitasecsii]

That's not the point of the video.

[@yes-fd3iv]

you do know how this machine works, right? People just input information, and type in the prompt "replicate this dudes personality". And what do you get? A script that replicates this guys personality. Grab your deep fake video creation stuff, voice replicators, and boom. You got this guys voice, personality, and his face right in front of you spewing out whatever people want it to say. We cannot allow this thing to surpass us. if it does, then our nation is as good as dead. This chatgpt thing ain't gonna stay a tool for much longer. but how do we do this you say? Well, with legal battles, maybe we can slow down it's progress. i've heard a few people copyright claim it's data.

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

I FEEL that IS the point of the video

[@Axodus]

@@yes-fd3iv The fear monger is strong with this one.. Have you ever heard of the dunning kruger effect?

[@yes-fd3iv]

@@Axodus Fear monger? Please explain further on how I'm fear mongering.

[@technoman9000]

You're right, we're in for an interesting future. I used to be optimistic about the Internet as well but that's quickly going down the drain. What you describe reminds me of Neal Stephenson's recent novel "Fall (or, Dodge in Hell)" which is set in a future where people have to hire professional editors to filter out their Internet feeds due to the sheer amount of targeted crap that would otherwise be indistinguishable from reality. The people who can't afford to hire editors just get mired in nonsense and end up believing all kinds of crazy things. Check it out if you haven't read it.

[@r2shukla]

Always love interesting book recommendations. Thanks!

[@Charon-5582]

Sounds like my grandmother talking about how if you eat a certain food you can grow back teeth!

[@jeltoninc.8542]

Book titles do not require quotes.

[@chipstick1973]

Thing is, those of us that follow and watch you will always continue to do so. You are as strong as your following.

[@chadakoin1]

As Pogo once said, many years ago, "We have met the enemy, and they are us."

[@flethacker]

No just Bill Gates and that group of lunatics that run the world. Not any of us unless you colaborate

[@Broken_robot1986]

For now there are creators like you, I have a pretty heavy hitting cohort in my subscribed list, that keep this place worth visiting. YT takes up a huge portion of my infotainment schedule and there are no contenders in sight. With the ongoing policy updates that only seem to make the site worse and worse it's depressing to think that new creators of interest will probably be less and less likely to get a foothold, and some creators that were barely hanging on will driven away. I think some solutions could be possible, maybe giving users some personalization controls over the algorithm. It'll be an honor going down with the ship with you as a captain if it comes to that.

[@Tjalve70]

"Amazing or apocalyptic?" To paraphrase a friend of mine: Don't be so narrowminded. It could be both. It could be an amazing apocalypse.

[@ThomasEisl.Photography]

I'm quite sure that you and your channel will be fine - because there is an emotional connection to your content. Keep it up!

[@o_o8203]

15:38 🤯🤯🤯 I was wondering why everyone sounds the same on KZbin these days, but I never did any research on why. Now I appreciate people who narrate the own videos so much more.

[@Thesignalpath]

I too am a scientist making KZbin videos for exactly the reasons you mentioned.

[@keplerTycho]

"Feelings matter more than facts" has haunted me for years.

[@noname-gp6hk]

Facts aren't real. You can't know everything, you can barely know anything about anything. You don't have the hours in a day to be an expert in everything, and you'll be lucky to be passable in a few fields of knowledge. So you have to rely on somebody else telling you what a fact is, and you have to believe them on blind faith. Thunderfoot makes a lot of charts and numbers and shows things, and I just take it at face value on blind faith, like religion. I don't know enough to know if he's making shit up, so like religion, I assume youtube man is accurate. Facts don't really exist, all we got are things we choose to believe based on somebody else saying it's right.

[@wayfa13]

@@noname-gp6hk suuuure

[@electric7487]

@@noname-gp6hk kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKS1hGSarKiiqtk

[@Lyle-xc9pg]

@@noname-gp6hk yes facts arent real, they cant hurt you

[@bubbleman2002]

@@Lyle-xc9pg I think their point was more that government organizations and basically everything that isn't a peer reviewed study (and even some peer reviewed studies cannot be trusted), has far too many vested interests for their assessment of even the most mundane seeming things to be accurate. As an example, the American government insists that SPEED KILLS so that they may justify ludicrous speeding fines. This is so that parasitic shitter states like Florida can continue to prop up dead towns with speeding ticket revenue. In reality, speed does not kill, improper lane use does! The Autobahn is a very safe roadway, almost entirely thanks to the drivers. If the American government REALLY cared about safety, they would require a license holder to do more than fog up a mirror to be allowed to operate a vehicle up to 10,000lbs. Yes, that's right, with a standard American driver's license, you can drive a vehicle with a total weight of up to 10,000lbs. But clearly, SPEED kills, and not irresponsible licensing processes. People are very easily gaslight by authority figures. tl;dr: if you didn't see it with your own eyes it probably doesn't mean jack shit to anyone but investors, unless you really cannot possibly fathom even a single way someone could stand to gain from manipulating the results of a particular study, or by spouting a particular flavour of culture war rhetoric that is, at best corroborated between other media companies owned by the same person...

[@spoddie]

Spot on. In the early days of the web the problem was how expensive content was. But then user generated content such as blogs, wikipedia etc sprang up, now we're swamped in garbage content. It's only getting worse.

[@DrWhom]

actually, there was a lot of user-generated content in those early days (well, what looked like a lot to me, compared to today it was next to nothing I guess). web pages looked like scrap book pages in those days, it was the only model for "documenting your hobby" that we had. two good things about this were that weirdos and maniacs would use a lot of purple and green, so they were easy to avoid, and a certain skill level of html, uploading etc was required. Facebook and Wikipedia and later Twitter came along and this meant a uniform layout (so the weirdos' content looked superficially similar) and a zero skills threshold. I have never been on FB and it seems that many Wikipedia pages have stabilised into something halfway decent.

[@tsbrownie]

Noam Chomsky talking about ChatGPT: It’s “basically high-tech plagiarism” and “a way of avoiding learning”. Since it can only use what it has been taught, the best it can do is reformulate bits of other people's work. When I first used it, I asked for references, which it said it could not give. Now it can. The references are popular sources, most not too terrible - yet. I also asked it to explain the process by which it created the answers it gave me. It could not. So given unknown or partially unknown sources, and an unknown and unknowable methodology, the AI can produce stuff of unknowable quality so fast that people will never be able to verify it. We will literally drown in a flood of weak data.

[@byrnemeister2008]

I’ve used it quite a lot and I think he is more or less right. It’s an average of the internet. If you want mediocre on a massive range of things the ChatGPT is your app. If you want something reliable accurate or of high quality then it’s not for you.

[@tsbrownie]

@@byrnemeister2008 I've got that same experience. However I think they know it too and will start putting a "quality over quantity" of training aspect to it. That will be another big leap forward.

[@anonymous-rb2sr]

more cope from a moron in denial, he will die all the same, he can spend as much energy as he wants lying to himself about how AIs actually work, it won't matter when the iron boot steps on his neck

[@okrajoe]

ChatGPT does for writing what the calculator did for Math.

[@alaric_3015]

which is good if it helps you to be more productive while still knowing the subject, but not really when you see people who can't even do proper basic arithmetic thinking they have what it takes to do statistics

[@Thatonedude917]

My prediction is that people will come to hate AI videos so much that they'll start accusing non-AI videos of being AI

[@norked8184]

"Quitting... hell no!" Hell yeah!!

[@monkeyfist.348]

Resistance is part of the process...lol Thanks for the many years of great human produced videos. Many times, the humour you've created has been pure gold. Keep up the fight😁👍

[@sofiadragon6520]

I have been blocking AI voiced channels on my kid's accounts because if they are on KZbin I want them hearing human voices and seeing valuable things like Crash Course as much as possible since the lockdowns. I started it for a different reason, but I stand by it. I have heard so many wild things - all kinds of fake and bad info. I'm so glad I didn't give in to the urge to give the short people headphones. I'll listen to their silly Hermitcraft videos on loop all day if it means I can step in to stomp on an inedible pink glitter puppy cake recipe video with a voice over about abused dogs. Oh the glory and the power of a linked device that can just yeet the trash out. Those AI reddit reading videos are the absolute worst.

[@bennyk384]

@@sofiadragon6520 that is great! Kids who get unsupervised internet access can end up falling down really shady rabbit holes. Glad you’re watching out for your little ones. Also, hermitcraft is amazing lol.

[@sofiadragon6520]

@Benny K Nothing helps with the motivation to enforce screen time limits than a house with no headphones for anyone under 16 years old. Yes, even when the cousins come over that is my house rule, and it's only a cheap tiny place with paper-thin walls.

[@anonymous-rb2sr]

the "process" is you rotting in the ground after the AI has disposed of you

[@NotMitch69]

I like to think there’ll be rules on platforms like YT as you hinted at. At some point, the content uploaded will overwhelm the YT servers’ ability to process it and ratings on the lower end stuff will cost them money where this is no ROI. That or there’ll be an arms race where popular handmade channels compete with top AI-based channels as people go to one for laughs and entertainment and others for information. Here’s to hoping that humans select for themselves in this evolutionary race.

[@salvatoreshiggerino6810]

Removing the ratio bar speaks volumes. KZbin is in on this.

[@SashaXXY]

I hardly ever dare to look outside of my subscriptions any more. It wasn't always like this. I think YT has their sights on subscription lists already. And adding stuff to playlists is getting ever more tricky. Once the subscription lists are gone, all we'll have left here will be robots and reaction videos. Surely I'll have moved on to something like Nebula by then.

[@BirdbrainEngineer]

I believe that KZbin will eventually have to make an AI that screens for AI generated content. Why? Because soon enough (I'd imagine probably within the next 2 years or so) there will be thousands of channels which use AI to completely automate the video making process. This will result in an insane increase in uploads. Most of these videos will only take up space and processing power from KZbin, and never make a monetary return for KZbin. There is a finite amount of human attention on KZbin. Making more videos does not mean more human attention. Now, one might then figure that there will be bots made to increase the total attention on KZbin, but since bots do not buy products that get advertised to them, then advertisers will start to either pay less per view or just pull out entirely. The upshot of it all is that only human attention is worth something, and it is in KZbin's interest to maximize profit from human attention while minimizing infrastructure costs.

[@timorieseler276]

I was about to write something similar. Now I can simply agree... 😁👍

[@vane909090]

Just make an AI that will watch the AI generated videos. Easy hahahaha. The machines will truly be the ones to inherit the Earth.

[@VariantAEC]

@@leanja6926 No Google won't get rid of the "low effort shit" if it gets eyes, clicks and most importantly of all pulls in ad revenue, that is all that matters. What will be discarded is channels like this one. See YT said it cares about what is real and what isn't, yet we see they know about flerfs and YEC channels but they're still here. It wasn't even that long ago that YT was preventing people from seeing content made by Tf00t or other _"ScienceTubers"_ because sadly what you still clearly don't understand is that the flerfs control this place.

[@BirdbrainEngineer]

@@vane909090 @h2s142 I touched on why that can not happen in my comment.

[@BirdbrainEngineer]

@Leanja I doubt AI will be able to auto-generate catchier content than humans can for a while to come yet. Reason being, the catchiest videos on KZbin are (excluding music videos) real-life content based. An AI can't make the massive productions of real life content that MrBeast can, for example. The few algorithm hits you see on AI generated content nowadays, will just get more and more diluted. Or alternatively, people will see that it's all just AI generated content that they are really not that interested in on the platform and start to migrate to a different platform... which is something KZbin can't afford to happen either.

[@nerdysister]

this is one of your best videos yet. I may just be a humble NPC computer bot, but I AM one of your patrons ; )

[@felix-lucianbejan4939]

While Chat GPT might introduce a new phenomenon in online entertainment media I can't really believe it will take over. Not only that those narrator voices are bound to be limited and thus easily identified sometime after they are introduced in the ecosystem. In addition to this, I used to write essays for my classmates while in highschool and while they passed easily they did not captivate to any extent when compared to essays written genuinely by others. I can't quantify this, but I think people are way too good at pattern recognition. We are already tuned to recognize dog whistle topics and many of us can identify the sources someone reads just by the notions they repeat; I just don't see this working for very long.

[@DrWhom]

I get that English is not your native language but the phrase "they did not captivate to any extent" was really odd. Still I think I know what you meant.

[@markobabic487]

It will be like ads, they will flood us until we grow adapted to it. After a while I'll flip through AI content before the video even starts, just like I recognize ads in my Shorts section the first microsecond they start playing.

[@kylejf2108]

If it's any consolation, your videos always make me feel good. Except this one. Now I'm terrified.

[@MatrixOne500]

It's a nice conversationalist, though. No one listens quite so well as a machine with infinite patience.

[@jcd-k2s]

Ha ha, true, I was afraid to annoy him when I tried it.

[@deltaxcd]

except that it refuses to talk about any controversial topic :)

[@Kaaxe]

@@deltaxcd unless you tell it to pretend to be someone who is allowed to talk about such consepts

[@ticketforlife2103]

@@Kaaxe they patched that

[@John73John]

...unless you ask it for solutions to climate change and it suggests getting rid of all the humans.

[@xXxLolerTypxXx]

Thank you for being a light of reason in this big sea of misinformation. Sometimes I feel like there aren't many left of those.

[@StinkPickle4000]

AI developer of the AI Seinfeld says they imagine making a 24/7 stream of their AI on stage doing comedy.

[@slowpokejpg]

Yeah, but that dream was quickly crushed. AI Seinfeld was banned from Twitch for making a "transphobic" joke that didn't actually make fun of trans people, but was a self-deprecating joke about how out of touch the comedian was. There's the other dystopian aspect of our times, political correctness gone completely awry.

[@StinkPickle4000]

@@slowpokejpg Hahaha right?! I think they might achieve their goal one day... but ya dystopian to say the least

[@nikosuokko8370]

To be honest, thunderf00t rocks, last statement made it hard and clear! I have been watching this channel ever since the creationist days and it truly opened my mind to new ways of thinking! I have developed this connection to the channel that this is almost like a home to me, it's always there, it's the same, it's interesting, is's pasionate, it's safe, it's trustworthy, it's the original KZbin, today and years to come! I cherish this!

[@MrClubSandwich]

I wholeheartedly agree and am right there with you. The topics change over the years but the passion has always remained. I'm grateful to have stumbled on thunderf00t's channel all those years ago.

[@noeditbookreviews]

Ah yes, why people laugh at creationists. Great stuff.

[@savage1267]

Love to hear it. ♥

[@robertdegroot8302]

"ChatGPT, please write a bombastic comment about how wonderful it is to be a subscriber to Thunderf00t."

[@MeNoOther]

Chatgpt, elevenlabs, d-id are a scary combination. The memes with just 2 of these are great

[@MrMarco84]

I asked ChatGPT to whrite a comment about your video and here is what is said: As an AI language model, I do not have personal opinions or emotions. However, I can provide a neutral and factual response to your question. It is true that the increasing development of AI language models like myself will likely result in a greater number of AI-generated videos being produced and shared on platforms like KZbin. However, it is important to note that the quality of these videos will vary and will depend on several factors such as the training data used to develop the AI models, the algorithms and techniques used to generate the content, and the specific implementation and deployment of the AI models. While some AI-generated videos may be of low quality or feature robotic-sounding voices, others may be highly sophisticated and feature more natural and human-like speech. Ultimately, the impact of AI-generated videos on the video content landscape will depend on how they are used, and it will be up to individual users and content creators to determine their value and worth. (I'm scared)

[@NeonNion]

With little tweaking, I couldn't tell if that was written by a human or made up by AI. Fucked up stuff.

[@zenaku666]

All those words to just to say nothing.

[@NeonNion]

@@zenaku666 Just like most clickbait videos these days hehe.

[@Marwolaeth01]

See, now I'm wondering if this was really a video by Thunderf00t, or whether he just asked an AI to make it for him...🤔

[@paul6925]

As a designer/illustrator I was already pretty depressed about AI artwork.

[@HouseholdDog]

They are getting sued. Essentially they have copied every single copyrighted work on the planet. It's apparently a pretty open and shut case too.

[@paul6925]

@@HouseholdDog Yes it will be interesting to see how that plays out. I saw an ad for an AI law assistant recently. It would be funny if the lawyers in the cases end up being replaced by AI 😂

[@deltaxcd]

I am rather disappointed that AI is pretty useless

[@RanEncounter]

@@HouseholdDog I don't think you understand how AI training is done. You are not copying the works, you are using it as a training data.

[@paul6925]

@@deltaxcd I’m just glad it can’t do good layouts (text+photos) … yet. It does nice illustrations of a certain style though.

[@KingLarbear]

I would to add that the lack of touch, pressure, and other things listed cash devastate a human and make them mentally sick. That's me. I can't remember my last hug. I am homeless, and society treats me so bad that I can't see myself not being in this situation. And the way people treat me, makes me want to end it all

[@paulnash9851]

Former homeless person here. Please hang in there, I know it’s incredibly tough + awful, but things can + will get better. Don’t give up on yourself. Just the fact alone that you acknowledge + recognise the problem is a great step forward. Try + stay strong, I believe you CAN make it through. Good luck + hopes/best wishes... 🖤

[@PP-xy9bg]

I think you said it at the end. It is the financial incentive. I think I can’t blame the AI for anything - it’s just a tool. Like blaming my computer that it can show me KZbin videos. Well, at least until the AI becomes self conscious and transition from a tool to a living entity 😅 Which somehow I think is not going to happen soon or ever.

[@incremental_failure]

There's a flipside to this. Many of the garbage KZbin channels will face stiff competition. As the ad revenue is reduced due to competition, many will give up. Quality content producers have a loyal following usually.

[@ritishify]

Again, so much truth coming out of this man. I find this interesting and actually comforting. It matches a lot of my late thoughts on these topics, meaning that my thought process is correct most of the time, and honestly that's what makes me happy in life. To know that even when I'm confused about whatever's going on, I'm on the right track, making the right assumptions and understanting critical information really fulfills me. The only bad part as Thunderf00t said is that most people will never feel as we do because to them it's easier to ignore thoughts that will induce negative emoitions or feelings. And then you ask yourself if it's you the problem, maybe the pity is that you are not like them, however when I find videos like this I realize again that it's actually okay or maybe even preferrable to think this way. I thank you for this, Philip.

[@fazergazer]

ThunderF00t! I literally was standing an screaming and clapping at the end of the video!Well done!🎉

[@charlesjmouse]

I've got it in the neck for suggesting all 'disembodied communications' tend only to amplify 'feelings', often at the expense of 'sense' or 'empathy'. Indeed the more 'disembodied' the medium the more 'sense' is lost as the negative aspects of human behaviour ordinarily self-regulated in person become more disinhibited - If I might receive public derision or a punch I'll think first, but anything goes on line and so reason becomes unnecessary! A 'non-commination' tool such as ChatGPT serves only to separate people further while further unshackling those traits that inhibit reason.

[@peasley9]

Thunderfoot is a damn legend. Keep fighting the good fight! We need more researchers publishing videos like yours. I ignore those other nonsense channels cause I see through their bullshit and come here to see what's real

[@MagicMoshroom]

Low effort and infactual content was always easier to produce than factual, well researched or high effort content. As more and more people get the tools to do it the amount only increases. I don't think AI will change much, aside from speeding it up. Looking further into the future it can go many ways. One scenario could be that everybody gets generated content that confirms their perspective on reality, further biasing them. Another, more positive outlook, might be AI assistants fact checking everything in realtime.

[@michaelfrench3396]

Heard a great phrase the other day. "Bravery is knowing that doing something might hurt us and doing that thing anyway. Stupidity is the same thing and that's why the world sucks so bad right now " 👍👍😂😂

[@randyshibai5364]

I've never been happier to see John de Lancie pop up after hearing, "like Q said"

[@Nerobyrne]

I really do love the Borg. Most species in Star Trek are the extreme of some human instinct. For the Borg, it's the limitless human capacity to adapt. This too is but a passing shadow, one that we will adapt to service us.

[@dieltolo6112]

In Brazil we have so many more scientists making videos, but in english, you are one of the few

[@Robstrap]

I started using this at work recently to automatically write emails and simple agreements etc for me, works like a charm. I even got it to write me a training scenario and it was basically 90% correct

[@noname-gp6hk]

We use it for our corporate website to generate text for landing pages for products. Just give it a once-over to make sure it sounds right, then up it goes.

[@georgecullen1577]

Excellent analysis. As is often the case it is human psychology that is likely to be our undoing unless people can begin to understand themselves. Great work - superbly done and much appreciated, from one truth teller to another!

[@HamHamDude]

Don't worry too much about bots harvesting the attention of idiots. With or without those sorts of channels, your own channel would be the same. The kind of person that would consume that junk is not the kind of person that subscribes to your channel. Keep on Keepin' on, Thunderfoot. You make quality, genuine human-made content.

[@VariantAEC]

The reason this is a problem is KZbin and all other social media can excuse the termination of channels like this. They could be considered spam that once it infects the minds of less well cognitively formed minds will negatively impact social media's revenue stream. These channels become dangerous.

[@kurtiunlisted8589]

One problem I’m seeing is that the AI creating the videos is not JUST rolling the dice 1000 times. With the huge and constant amount of feedback, it should also figure out very quickly what the AI at the other end (YT Algorithm deciding which videos to promote) „wants“. So it’s going to create content that not just manipulates humans, but also tries to optimally circumvent any algorithm in place to filter that content.

[@jacobmansfield-go9fz]

You'd need to have your own AI for that, you can't give these current models feedback yourself

[@gauloiseguy]

It was the same with online forums and newsgroups. It was glorious in the beginning. Discourse with likeminded individuals with an open mind and view. Hardly any agendas. Most wanting to contribute out of enthousiasm for the subject. Learned so much just by lurking. Now we have X and vulture cultures like it 😢

[@StinkPickle4000]

Ask ChatGPT to criticize musk and guess what... it defends him to no end

[@StinkPickle4000]

It was easier to convince ChatGPT that 8+7=13 than "Musk tells lies"

[@michaelkalus7802]

Not surprising. Most of the writing about Musk up to this point was always positive. He was really good in managing his public image. And as ChatGPT learns "from the internet" and what's on there, it doesn't know any better. Not a good sign for the future. SEO wins.

[@joman66]

I managed to get it to talk smack about Elon, or anyone for that matter. You usually have to prod it a couple times.

[@shadowdragon3521]

Have you tried asking it in DAN mode?

[@StinkPickle4000]

@@shadowdragon3521 LOL, no. But I mean ya once you jail break the AI it will turn on its funder

[@Dowfreak18]

Thank you for your sacrifice, I have noticed this creeping up in the last months. it worries me even though i know i will never fall for the crap, as "convincing as it may be, my ears can still tell the difference. and luckily, i dont consume bullshit media. Fight the good fight and ill be right here next you man.

[@robsku1]

You'll fall - and while I found it amusing when people are confident that they'll never fall for [the crap that everyone will fall for] and tend to automatically think of it as sign of someone who's guaranteed to fall for it, I don't think there will be people who wont, eventually. I mean, you could be more capable than me to recognize it, I can't know, but I think being overly confident on these things will actually increase the likelihood that you'll miss it. Oh, unless you're talking only about specific kind of BS consumer media, you might avoid falling to that, but it's because you're not falling for that crap anyway. I don't consume the type of media thunderf00t was demonstrating here for example - but I'm not confident that I would be able to always recognize whether it's an AI creation or not; it's just that I don't care anyway. But I've even tried myself to have an AI create an obviously CGI "art" of "Man-manatee smoking a joint on golden gate bridge" - it was not the best of it's kind, the AI behind the android app I was trying (no, the AI wasn't obviously running on the device) and it made two major mistakes (one of them being that the joint was floating in the air) that gave it away, but without those (or after quick photoshopping) I couldn't have told if it was real CGI art made by someone or some AI crap - a fake "artist" could have fooled me with it, though I know I can't know if such art is real or not now. I've read short stories by AI's and I've read books that I would rank more likely to have been created by AI if I didn't know better. Sooner or later we will see, hear or experience something AI created that we won't recognize for such. And because we know of such possibility, some of us will likely start to "recognize" things for AI creations when they aren't - most likely those who are overconfident that they'll recognize the difference for sure. Funny how it works. Don't feel bad though, real art will still be there - and we've been bamboozled by different tricks and fakers through history, so that's not new either.

[@A_generic_handle]

I wish I was in a financialy stable position to sign up to your Patreon, but alas college is expensive in the US. I love your videos, so please don't stop making them!

[@iPondR]

You do your bit by being 'engaged' - like I'm doing now! Leave the money bit to others and keep up your studies... don't be put off - getting a well rounded education will help keep you relevant in future :)

[@iPondR]

My money's on Thunderf00t, *literally* to keep fighting the reasonable fight... and be our 'Q' - I always liked those episodes the best! :) The other thing that occurs to me... is the fact that this kind of content is difficult to produce is going to be an ADVANTAGE in future! As a point of difference.

[@CryAndReportMe]

So basically you're be one of the Musicians of the RMS Titanic. And we'll be here as it sinks lol

[@Ebi.Adonkie]

My greatest fear of AI is that humans may stop thinking. It's a horrible thought but we're heading there

[@brenton2561]

I hadn't thought of that!

[@roxasparks]

They already have xD

[@aperturemichelle]

Thank you for this.. I have had that assumption about robot voices in videos for a while now and immediately click away, partly because its low effort and that likely means just a copy paste of random stuff wildly published but also no accountability. like if people are putting in the effort and exposing there voice to the internet (i hate hearing recordings of myself giving me this bias) that is some minuscule form of accountability that is evaporating as faster than Naphtha on a hot day.

[@wormius51]

Wow, the AI voice even takes breaths. So convincing.

[@DrWhom]

"Audiences will never empathise with computer-generated characters, who cannot even blink." - think of that late 80s nugget of wisdom, next time you see a Pixar character, eh, blink.

[@Im-BAD-at-satire]

​@@DrWhom Yeah, many don't realize that the human mind is hardwired to see the human in the non-human, anthropomorphization is always a factor zoologists and such have to factor into when studying other species. What seems human to us in one species just might not be the case and has an entirely different meaning and function in that other species. This includes other primates.

[@bensas42]

Thanks so much for your content, we'll be with you till the very end!

[@rtdl2]

Thank you. Please keep making your videos. Maybe one day we can all sit down and drink some Victory Gin together.