Will Chinese 196cc Diesel Run On Used Oil? Ultimate Survival Engine

[@dieseltechjb]

I’ve run my 7.3L powerstrokes on used oil for years. Used engine oil, hydraulic oil, transmission fluid….. every oil change that comes thru the shop goes in the tank of the 7.3s here 😂

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Haha dang!

[@Dadcandoit007Kevin]

How do you filter it ?

[@dieseltechjb]

@@Dadcandoit007Kevin the fuel filter

[@walsakaluk1584]

Do you have freezing weather at your locale? If you do, how does the oil as fuel behave before being heated up in the tank via the return injector cooling line?

[@dieseltechjb]

@@walsakaluk1584 not really. We are in SC. Doesn’t get cold enough often

[@motorenbastler9289]

Been watching a few of your videos now, i like your engineering. But you should change the oil more often. You can clearly see some diesel in it. Even if its a chinese Diesel you can maintain it. Also because you have the ability to prove these engines arent that bad. And i would recommend to filter old engine oil or the injector pump might get damaged,

[@2davydo]

Yeah Actually they say UR supposed to completely flush the contaminate crankcase oil from the factory on these. because they have metal shaving from the used oil that they used during testing.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah you’re right. Really it just comes down to me having to many builds/things than I can manage so some things get neglected. I have over a dozen builds, 4 cars plus the rest of the families cars, a full time job, school, finding new content to keep people interested, etc. Just not enough time in the day. I filtered it some but probably not enough. I plan of having an oil change day so where everything is getting some maintenance.

[@motorenbastler9289]

@@jwsbackyard6413 understandable. Have also too many builds. Some of them havent really run for years. I try to maintenance the stuff i use more often better than the engines i dont use much. But yeah its like you said, life gets you. I also plan to get one of these chinese diesel to make a Generator out of it but the problem is you dont really can buy them in europe. Have seen like 5 offers but all of them are shiped from the US, mostly California. Well i am interested about your videos so i leave you a subscribe. Have a nice day

[@Rothammel1]

@@motorenbastler9289 so true

[@Triscuit08]

please upload more about these engines, im thinking of using one for my vintage sears gt18 that had a seized engine that i took out and need to find a replacement for so these engines peaked my interest

[@jwsbackyard6413]

I’ve got quite a few videos on these engines on the channel.

[@LaRaineBarton]

It will be slow. Only 196 ccs

[@perrylc8812]

A friend of mine used to make biodiesel and would use old cooking oil from restaurants. I don’t know about today but back then they would give it to him, he only had to either pump it out of their container or bring them one to exchange each time.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

I heard years ago that restaurants had started charging because everyone had started wanting it but idk if that is true.

[@walter2990]

​@jwsbackyard6413 Several years ago, I was getting into using used cooking oil for bio-diesel. If it's used by a restaurant, it'll contain a lot of contaminates in it, that will "gum up" your fuel system unless it's processed into bio-diesel. Glycerine is the main culprit that does the most harm. Some of the older diesel engines can tolerate the used cooking oil (after rudimentary filtration), but they work best if it's preheated before it's run thru the injector pump. Newer diesels have a really tough time using straight unprocessed used cooking oils. Injectors and injection pumps are VERY pricey on "modern" diesels. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for using whatever you want to use in your diesel engines, but a little research is a lot cheaper than the tears of regret! Stay well, and stay thirsty my friend!

[@hornetscales8274]

I would imagine a second tank for oil, a switch to start on diesel and for pre-shutdown line clearing with diesel, but run on oil for the main time period is the way to do it. Also, run the oil through a preheat line before injection.

[@walsakaluk1584]

You don't need to preheat in the tropics.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah I had saw some people saying it wouldn’t work without preheating that’s why I really wanted to try it out without heating.

[@KentuckyFriedFixes]

Now that is COOL! I've seen these little diesels for awhile now but have never bothered to check one out. I'm surprised these aren't more popular with the "off grid" guys. Seems like it would be easy to run a fuel line to a barrel of used motor oil and use one of these to run a PMA to charge a battery bank. Great video!

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Honestly most of the comments I get about these engines is people mad because it’s from China. I would bet that is one of the main reasons no one considers them. Haven’t seen many people trying alternative fuels on these so people may just not know it’s possible either.

[@2davydo]

@@jwsbackyard6413 Yeah I Read some where that these little diesels were mostly made for the domestic Chinese market that is why the instruction manual is in Chinese.some guy here on you tube did a full write up on these and has completely disassembled one to clean and flush out the factory oil because it had metal particles in it.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

The most recent one I bought was packaged better and had a English manual but still from China. Most engines have a break in period and have some glitter in the break in oil so I’m wondering if that’s what they are seeing and don’t realize that’s pretty normal during the breakin.

[@2davydo]

@@jwsbackyard6413 Yeah you could have a good point there .

[@doglegjake6788]

It is absolutely unbelievable How much energy is wasted in this country, And we don't even know it.

[@kollinspencer847]

amazed on how well it did with the used oil! not sure if itd be great for it long term but seems like itd get you by.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah the engine wasn’t even phased by it. The fuel system is relatively easy to disassemble so should be easy to clean and maintain if needed.

[@nonkoshergoy88]

Excellent video 👍🏻

[@doglegjake6788]

Thanks for sharing a great video.

[@jay_the_sasquatch4207]

Yup. Exactly what I export oil to look like 1:06

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yep four year old break in oil. At least we know it’s broken in

[@jay_the_sasquatch4207]

@@jwsbackyard6413 lmfao. Yeah she broken in alright

[@Ken-BurnForever]

nice to see a new video on the diesel kart. It was kinda hard to watch all that oil and diesel spill all over the ground, but I get it, I've been there haha

[@seevooplay]

Buying 4 for future projects.

[@ardennielsen3761]

if its runs but has low power and smoke, adding up to 5% gasoline/kerosene/alcohol/ethanol blended detergent fuel to the Diesel helps the oil burn cleaner as the average volume aria of flash point goes down 4%... makes starting a low compression turbo diesel engine easier. otherwise 15.5:1 needs 14psi on it the whole time its running. graph average volume aria of flash point of alternative oil fuels corrected using gasoline to calculably match a static flash point for a chosen engine compression ratio. "15.5:1 would be as much as 11% gas diesel mix when the diesel source is stoichiometric for a 18.5:1 compression ratio.

[@LarsJepkes]

I would like to know if it'll run on regular gasoline or a mix of gasoline and oil/diesel. I'm very intrigued on how survivalist this engine can get regarding reliability and alternative fuels. I joined the Facebook group and am excited to see where these little diesel engines can go.

[@LaRaineBarton]

It will cluk like a chicken and die if you run gasoline in it.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah there have been quite a few people talking about cutting it with a little bit of gas but I don’t know enough about it to comment. I was always under the impression that gas would kill a diesel but I’m going to have to look into it.

[@batmanlives6456]

Chinese rubber disintegrated? Fairly standard

[@justinkostelecky6201]

This engine would be awesome in an old Rokon bike.

[@firstielasty1162]

That's interesting, thanks for showing it. Things that would concern me for long term use: piston ring sticking- many of the contaminants probably will not burn cleanly, or at all. Even oil capable of burning may not do so completely due to probable larger droplet size from the injector.

[@firstielasty1162]

Another concern ... injector pump wear- the injector pump injects a fixed volume in a fixed time, for a given power setting and RPM. To inject the same volume of a much more viscous fluid would really raise the force on the cam in the injector pump. Injector pump problems possible. Probably not in a go-kart, but maybe in something that gets a lot of time on it.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah those are all good points. Was really doing it as an experiment. Luckily these are cheap enough that I can afford to see how it affects the longevity of the engine without breaking the bank.

[@FishyBoi1337]

Every time I see somethin about diesel engines, it's positive. They're more efficient, have higher power, pollute less, the engines can run on anything that could even think about burning, they last forever, the fuel is less dangerous, it might be less carcinogenic, the list goes on... why do we even have gasoline???

[@camhaothi8400]

Have you going to plans on trying the 418cc chinese version 😅 anytime soon.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Unfortunately no. It would be cool but just costs too much to make sense. I don’t make much money on her so it would be hard to justify.

[@johncollinsgrove1750]

You should set up some testing to compare performance.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah that’s a good idea. I was wondering if it would be down on power

[@alhemshorn5207]

Lanze bulldog would run on used motor oil so what is new

[@dieselbuilds]

Do you have a kill switch setup for your engine?

[@jwsbackyard6413]

I have a kill switch on the one on the PowerWheels. It’s very basic. I just ran a rope through a loop near the engine mount tied it to the decompression lever. So all I have to do is pull the rope and it pulls the decompression and shuts it off incase of an emergency. Someone else was talking about spraying co2 in the intake which would also work

[@tafsirnahian669]

That cat dump truck maybe smokes more than a real one XD

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Haha, and the cat actually smokes less than the kart

[@brianlubeck4184]

I wonder how long your diesel engine will run on drain oil before the combustion acids that are always present in used engine oil ruins your injection pump

[@jwsbackyard6413]

I mean diesel itself is pretty corrosive and the oil doesn’t really harm the engine it came out of so I’d hope there wouldn’t really be an issue

[@dennisjenkins2076]

Hey how you doing? I have a predator 670cc motor. My drive pulley sits out way farther that the secondary pulley. If I take the driver washer and space off it’s sits perfect but then I can’t tight up the driver pulley. I have an 1” shaft

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Why cant you tighten the driver with the spacer gone? Is there anyway to space the secondary pulley so you aren’t having to do all the adjustment at the driver?

[@williamworth2746]

The diesel engine was originally designed to run on peanut oil

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Interesting, didn’t know that

[@antoniosestar3671]

Try to mix some gas to see if the horsepower increases

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah there shave been quite a few people talking about cutting it with a little bit of gas but I don’t know enough about it to comment. I was always under the impression that gas would kill a diesel but I’m going to have to look into it.

[@2davydo]

Hmm. How come the power wheels conversion smokes a lot?

[@jwsbackyard6413]

The kart actually smokes more but that’s just how these engines do under load.

[@2davydo]

@@jwsbackyard6413 Ohh OK. I have 3 of these diesels that I bought when they first came out. mine are painted orange instead of red . Mine came damaged from shipping in the cheap Styrofoam packing. The pull start was smashed in and the governor was bent badly I ran one to test and seemed OK . Your supposed to completely flush the crankcase out with something to remove the commentated testing oil that the factory used B/C it has metal shavings in it.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Yeah my red one came with side cover smashed the same as yours. I got an orange one recently and it came is a nice crate with a lot of styrofoam. Much better packaging than they used to have.

[@ShainAndrews]

Sure it will run, and it will run for a good while. However it is not getting a complete burn. The combustion chamber is filling with sooty sludge. The injector is getting caked with sooty sludge reducing the spray quality. Eventually you hammer out the rod, or the rod bearings, or in extreme cases lift the head if enough material moves and nothing gives except the head. These are the things that the bio fuel waste oil fuel clowns don't mention.

[@jessihawkins9116]

would it burn cleaner if you added a turbo 🤔

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Luckily this engine is pretty simple and easy to work on so cleaning it wouldn’t take much time or effort.

[@glumpy10]

This Bio waste fuel Clown has run engines for 20+ years and over 500K KM and never had any of those problems. I don't know of ANYONE that ever has. Your pedantic fear mongering does not add up to extensive real world experience.

[@williampierce5615]

Pollutes less.? What.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

What do you mean?

[@dnkmmr69420]

try running it on kerosene

[@firstielasty1162]

That's not even a trick. Jet-A is kerosene. Not like kero, it is. With the occasional difference of a bit (very little) of an additive called "prist" used to limit microbe growth and help disperse any water present. My diesel RV runs well on it, so does my home oil burner. Heated my home a couple winters on jet-a drained from aircraft for maintenance. Another aircraft mechanic friend has just about worn out his diesel jetta on it. Over 400k on mostly kero. There is a loss of power, the kero has a little less energy than diesel. We both run a bit of 2 stroke oil with it to ensure injector pump lubrication.

[@Nudnik1]

Used oil is dark black because it is contaminated with carbon and abrasives. It will wear out your injection pump plunger fast. And clog injectors. Do not do this with a good modern diesel engine or $$$$$$$$$$ in repairs. Used cooking oil trend years ago caused so many issues. Been a mechanic since 1976.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Luckily this is a cheap engine and it simple to work on. In an emergency situation I think it be an acceptable fuel source if you didn’t have anything else.

[@chrissuepolley4779]

Commy Kamala no likey 🎉

[@jwsbackyard6413]

I really just put ‘Chinese’ in there because it’s a trigger word for people. If I didn’t put it no one would even click it.

[@chrissuepolley4779]

Rodger enjoy

[@LaRaineBarton]

​@@jwsbackyard6413How much do you have to pay for the 196 engine?

[@jwsbackyard6413]

@@LaRaineBarton They run around $200-$240. Any that say $50 free shipping is a scam.

[@bobmcbob9603]

I’m not sure your scotch brite filter was a good idea… but it’s running so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jwsbackyard6413]

It’s better than what I was going to do which was no filtration at all. Just didn’t want any large particles that could clog the injector which I think it provided enough filtration for. The hole at the tip of the injector is about a 2mm.

[@bobmcbob9603]

@@jwsbackyard6413 I get it I’m just not sure what abrasive they use on scotch brite. That was my only concern.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Ah I get you now

[@stanleybest8833]

Used motor oil is carbon contaminated. Fundamentally wrong. Abrasive. Thumbs down.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

Really just experimenting but in an emergency situation I think it would be a fair trade off

[@stanleybest8833]

@@jwsbackyard6413 No. Promoting bad lessons. Screwing up the fluids.

[@jwsbackyard6413]

@@stanleybest8833haha cool

[@stanleybest8833]

@@jwsbackyard6413 Mine broke in and I'm mounted on aluminum and making accessories for it. You could squash a few episodes, keep the ones about having fun, and how to make your little diesel last. I'm the only local with a small 12 volt generator diesel. I promote it.

[@FishyBoi1337]

@@stanleybest8833 congrats, dog, maybe they'll make you president for it. I'm sure you'll be head of the HOA any minute now.