Will Dilo Overshadow Troodon? - The Isle Evrima Discussion

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HalfSlyced

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@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
I know i was poopin' on Troodon the entire time... but it's actually quite good at the moment and i recommend playing it. it's venom is not weak whatsoever and can take out anything with a coordinated group.
@phil8821
@phil8821 11 ай бұрын
Troodon is probably the most fun I've had in game. But it's nearly impossible to get a group going these days. The venom mechanic is pretty much worthless when you're solo. It can survive fine as a solo scavenger though. But playing it like that, just feels like playing a deranged psycho Dryo.
@werewolf-st1ub
@werewolf-st1ub 11 ай бұрын
And without a body down rule. *Sweating*
@stryfegamingonline7583
@stryfegamingonline7583 11 ай бұрын
You don't need to apologize. They can't kill anything full grown even in a maxed out group in game. On paper... sure. But Troodon effectiveness is overhyped by players killing juvenile carnos and talking about it like they soloed an adult.
@SirKolass
@SirKolass 11 ай бұрын
@@stryfegamingonline7583 Quite the stuff you made up inside your wonderland head.
@PIayer0
@PIayer0 11 ай бұрын
Tbh a lot of people don’t realize how good troodon is right now, a max group of troodons can wipe the floor with absolutely everything on the roster currently (even deino if it’s on land) they gave it a few silent buffs that made it a menace to everything, and it does more D.O.T. Plus you can’t alt attack a troodon if it’s latched on If they give troodon a Stam buff +more venom effects troodon will actually be one of the most effective carnivores in the isle if they don’t change how it is currently.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
absolutely. i stated it could take out most of the roster right now but i should have made that more clear instead of shi##ing on it the entire time lmfao
@YourAverageSpy955
@YourAverageSpy955 11 ай бұрын
Troodon is good, it's just too situational and pack reliant.
@EggSaladSammich
@EggSaladSammich 11 ай бұрын
I think the problem is just hitboxes, this is and has been a big problem in the dino gaming niche across all games, basically the hitboxes for troodon and other small relatively small playables means that while its a small target to pinpoint, it can be easy to jist snatch it. Its why in legacy you could sometimes kill tacos from a mile but not be able to bite them if youre on top of them. Same here, the small hitboxes make hit detection really iffy and almost random. But like the video said its venom its just, no. Hooray after losing 2-3 members to get to maxs stage, you mow get to do a similar amount of damage as utahs bite. But anyway, its hard to not die as troodon because what hitboxes your facing completely engulf you or not see you at all so its either you jave no chance at evading or you become shortly invincible. And yes you can get alt bit off the back of stuff like cera and carno as your dismount range is litterally short enough for them to do that unless the ping is lower than 5. Thats the problem, small creatures like troodon are bad for combat less on a stat or mechanic level, and more on a spaghetti code and network issue. No amount of stat buffs will change that. Whatd be better, is for troodons NV to actually mean something. Right now as troodon you get light up like a christmas tree by NV, also your big NV doesnt matter when half the roster has the same NV that is t excessive, i dont need to see the whole map in NV as troodon as it doesnt matter, since everything else has similar NV, everything else needs worse NV for troodons to even matter. And my final thing: troodon fundementally contracts itself, at first its supposed to be an agile lithe precise little thing to build up its venom, but then when it actually counts youre supposed to ignore that and just spam pounce. This would work…if you didnt die whenever you tried that tactic. Whats the point of being precise and calculating in the first half if youre supposed to go all out in the second half with lttle to no difference mechanically speaking other than a damage buff. Id propose that, while the venom stages kick in, it drains the targets stam so when it does matter to pounce as much as possible you actually can because the targets too tired to run and alt attack. Edited so that its not a giant wall of text and im sorry for the college essay on how i think troodon should be reworked
@sokkhatsorak5748
@sokkhatsorak5748 11 ай бұрын
Where you gonna get a max group of troodons, and say a max group of troodons can wipe the floor with everything then why don’t just play a max group omni which just better in every ways
@totallynormaldude2137
@totallynormaldude2137 11 ай бұрын
nah max group of omnis isn't better in everyway like a single carno can get like half of the group if it knows how to play, and troodons you can bareilly see them@@sokkhatsorak5748
@HauntingSpectre
@HauntingSpectre 11 ай бұрын
Troodons will continue to be played for a number of reason. They are quick to grow, they are noisy AF, they are fun to Troll with. Troodon will be used by the people who just enjoy being annoying rats, and for chilling with the boys. With the venom rework promised, it sounds like they are getting a buff. The thing about Dilo being bigger, is it's easier to see. It will be a lot harder for you to safely move around during the day, where as the Troodon is just grass tall.
@YourAverageSpy955
@YourAverageSpy955 11 ай бұрын
Dilo's venom creating fog will just remove the Big=Easier to see and the Hallucinations can also disorient the target
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
and saying this, its pretty sad that troodon has been dumped as a meme playable
@HauntingSpectre
@HauntingSpectre 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced Realistically, was it ever meant as anything else? It's like the Hypsi. Something fun to fart around with when you've got some spare time, and glorious to organize a terror army when you actually want to commit. There's not really anything wrong with being a meme dino, and it probably helped them figure out the framework for more serious ones, and systems (like the Dilo). Could be worse, could've ended up with Dilo as the meme.
@HauntingSpectre
@HauntingSpectre 11 ай бұрын
@@YourAverageSpy955 Thats if you are able to Venom the thing before it sees you. You aren't the only one on the map lurking around. It's harder to spot a Troodon at a distance than a Dilo. And just because you envenom one Carno, doesnt mean the other 2 they are always with are.
@YourAverageSpy955
@YourAverageSpy955 11 ай бұрын
@@HauntingSpectre Dilo's are gonna mostly strike at night where they have the biggest advantage and it's easy to ambush something that is eating, drinking, resting, or just be hidden in the foliage but Troodon's glowing eyes can be a give away when they're hunting especially some where there isn't grass and dilo's fog can cover the glowing eyes which makes Dilo much less situational.
@Gigglenotosaurus
@Gigglenotosaurus 11 ай бұрын
If we could post gifs in the comment section I would have posted an old man shaking his ass around to show how much your outro theme slaps.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
tbh i was considering an outro change for a more calm channel theme but you've officially changed my mine. it stays.
@s51nt
@s51nt 11 ай бұрын
if they made troodon bigger and make it feel more as a threat (because people don't want to play a carni that feels so weak, the lest in strength people will go is omni) while making it balanced in combat i feel like more people would enjoy playing it. And I do agree that Dilo will 100% overshadow troodon and i would honestly rather never had troodon and currently have dilo currently playable
@EggSaladSammich
@EggSaladSammich 11 ай бұрын
Woah fellow iterator inhabitants
@javiervaliente3884
@javiervaliente3884 11 ай бұрын
PvP player found
@HammboneBob
@HammboneBob 11 ай бұрын
Idk man not everyone can be strong, and there's certainly a strength in being small. Especially if they're arboreal. I play on deinonychus a LOT in PT and that was even before pounce.
@RandomMackem0069_Official
@RandomMackem0069_Official 11 ай бұрын
I’d rather troodon be an AI creature that can be found in grassy plains and attack when the player is idle or resting adding to the isles horror aspect just like the deino
@RandomMackem0069_Official
@RandomMackem0069_Official 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@HammboneBobwell PoT is just easy no other way to put it
@mamaluigigamer99
@mamaluigigamer99 11 ай бұрын
Honestly; Your fear about dilo overshadowing troodon is gonna be a reality if they don't add mimicry to troodon. Since the devs said they don't know how to work the mimic ability, I have already made a good idea on how it should work: Only 80-100% growth troodons will be able to mimic, same as envenomation. However; my only limitation is that you cannot mimic Apexes such as rex, (imagine 20 troodons mimicking a rex, then tell me how your ears are doing?). Anyhow; the Troodon would need to hear, get close to, or kill something in order to mimic it. To use the ability, you must press "5" on your keyboard to bring up a list of your learnt calls, click on the subject, and your calls (1-4 calls and f) will be transformed into the dino you are mimicking. One thing I'd like for the devs to add is a sort of a buffer troodon call, which would play for a few seconds before the troodon uses the mimicked call. This would allow keen players to notice if the calls are genuine or not by listening carefully and getting pretty close. From afar however; the calls will be identical to the original. I do get where the devs are coming from when they say they have no clue on how to do troodon mimicry (probably codewise) but hopefully the devs "find a way". FOR THOSE WHO WANT A PREVIEW/CONCEPT I MADE, GO TO THIS VIDEO kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYirfmmFebtrhrs ORYOU CAN GO TO MY NEWEST UPLOADED VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL PAGE
@The_Primitive
@The_Primitive 11 ай бұрын
Life, uhhh... finds a way.
@BeaverBeBussi
@BeaverBeBussi 11 ай бұрын
honestly W comment 100% Agree
@Britton182
@Britton182 11 ай бұрын
put it on a scroll wheel
@TheCaptain-ky1sx
@TheCaptain-ky1sx 11 ай бұрын
Troodon getting mimicry would absolutely put it back on the map: the ability to get a group of troodon and lure in your food, as opposed to looking for it would be so unique. Plus, the troodon would be able to have the home advantage, luring prey into dense foliage
@crackerman5519
@crackerman5519 11 ай бұрын
totally agree
@SirKolass
@SirKolass 11 ай бұрын
You mean mimic the smell of people's preferred food?
@holliegould3463
@holliegould3463 10 ай бұрын
i'm imagining them mimicking ptera and hypsi
@Chumnky
@Chumnky 11 ай бұрын
"coming very VeRy SOON." (a year, two arms, and a tooth.)
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
most real comment iv seen
@rtn2monke
@rtn2monke 11 ай бұрын
There is a very big difference between troodon venom, and Dilophosaurus venom, the troodons venom is meant to stiffen your body up to the point where you’re paralyzed, meanwhile, the Dilophosaurus venom is meant to make you trip falls, trying to figure out which Dilophosaurus is the real one, put in the short version as I like to call it, one venom paralyzes you, and the other one is a mind game
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
yes, this would be the case if the devs actually made troo's venom paralyze their prey. but all it does is damage over time and nothing else.
@stryfegamingonline7583
@stryfegamingonline7583 11 ай бұрын
Troodon venom doesn't do damage. It applies a multiplier to pounce damage. At stage 3 the multiplier is 2x last I heard. So it's worse than you thought
@zombie_ghandi215
@zombie_ghandi215 11 ай бұрын
troodon venom is getting reworked i think, waiting to see how its gonna be, apparently with similarities to dilo venom
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
i heard, i hope they make it more interesting than it is now
@MasterSwisher
@MasterSwisher 11 ай бұрын
Hypsilophodon of the carnivores really hit the nail on the head. I always thought it was silly of them to want troodon as a playable. They could've made much more use attaching it to their "events" they allegedly have planned for AI in the future.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
im glad they are making as many creatures playable as possible, but i also think they should give server owners to make certain ones AI only.
@MrFrostyankles
@MrFrostyankles 11 ай бұрын
I think most of the roster is already not really played. There is a lot of love that needs to be given to the forgotten.
@RandomMackem0069_Official
@RandomMackem0069_Official 11 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen a troodon outside of KZbin videos and when dilo comes I’ll immediately be growing one
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 11 ай бұрын
*hears new dilo sound* “It sounds… different… *I want it now”*
@dragon_platypus
@dragon_platypus 11 ай бұрын
I completely agree, but on the other hand I think both together would make the scariest mix pack... First the Dilo sends you on your hallicination trip and then the Troodons attack with their damage stacking venom pounce. While you also have to worry about the Dilo. Nights will be so much fun!
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
dont give anyone ideas. this wont end well
@dragon_platypus
@dragon_platypus 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced I'm afraid it's already too late my friend.
@daniloverr
@daniloverr 11 ай бұрын
I have to stand for Troodon vocals because i think its super cool and perfect for his concept ! That being said the Dilo has the best vocals of all time period. 🫶🏼
@Misto_deVito6009
@Misto_deVito6009 11 ай бұрын
Better question. Will BOTH of them overshadow Omni?
@hpjive
@hpjive 11 ай бұрын
Yes. One of the things going for troodon is that it’s pounce is more in depth than Omnis making it funner In that aspect and even more deadly. Dilo is probably just gonna be stronger overall compared to Omni so yeah 🤷‍♀️
@JulianMeier
@JulianMeier 11 ай бұрын
omni is a different playstyle so no, also omni is getting some changes
@stryfegamingonline7583
@stryfegamingonline7583 11 ай бұрын
Omni is in a whole different teir than the rest of the current roster as far as popularity. The Raptor is one of the most recognized and loved dinos period. It's not even close.
@Mr.Mehoff
@Mr.Mehoff 11 ай бұрын
i feel like if youre playing dinos because they have better stats than others and not because you like the dino or something along those lines your playing the game wrong like i dont think anything overshadows anyhting everything has its place on the isle and does what theyre good at in their own way
@PilhasGaming
@PilhasGaming 11 ай бұрын
troodon can jump and pounce so yeah they have their own flavor
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
wonder what they taste like
@BambooSh0t
@BambooSh0t 11 ай бұрын
"Drifing my grandmother's civic" NAH 💀
@maxallen5510
@maxallen5510 11 ай бұрын
Troodon is a different playstyle than dilo. Troodon is like a hyena or coyote. Weak on their own but threatening in large groups. They have a short growth time because they have such low health that mistakes would be costly if it wasn’t short. Dilo plays like a venomous wolf. They are larger so bigger health but easier to spot relatively speaking. But relying on hit and run tactics and wearing down the prey. Troodon needs some love definitely but just like any new dinosaur everyone is going to rush to play it and the whole server is going to be that one species with a few of the previous ones peppered in till the hype dies down.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
im aware how different they are but its just that dilo is essentially troo's cool uncle
@stryfegamingonline7583
@stryfegamingonline7583 11 ай бұрын
If Troodon gets a proper poison buff. And I do mean buff, it will not be replaced by Dilo. The reason for this is the size of Troodon allows them to roam around a hostile environment undetected. Thats gonna be a game changer when you have Omni amd Carnos on the map. But thats only if the Troodon gets a venom buff thats good enough.
@moluvkbalalala8878
@moluvkbalalala8878 11 ай бұрын
some effects of the dilo venom will be also added to the troodon venom effect
@Ainz117
@Ainz117 11 ай бұрын
This is more recent but, troodon is getting its venom reworked and tweaked, so that's exciting.
@gojiraguy3929
@gojiraguy3929 11 ай бұрын
Alright here is my "analysis" . Most troodon players will probably play filo or hers when they come out. For the first few weeks of dilos release most troodon players will play dilo to test the new big guy out, however some players might come back to troo. Here are my reasons. Reason 1: bugs, since the isle is "early access" there will be tons of bugs. Dilo will have bugs that need fixing. Reason 2: some people might not like dilos playstyle, people have opinions and they have to respected obviously and the final reason issss troodon is a small agile juvie hunter nieched dino. Some people want a dino that grows in like 30 mins and a dino you can get a massive pack in. Troodon is that dino, some people might want to play that over a dino that takes and hour and a half to grow. I hope you enjoy this essay, have a nice day
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
thank you, i did enjoy it. the lack of troodons now already worries me... (i dont see any at all) and i dont see bugs really backing people off from playing dilo unless its super game breaking. omni's pounce has alot of bugs and a lot of people still play it. troodon will for now and ever be seen as a meme playable, or for somebody who doesnt have time to play anything else
@gojiraguy3929
@gojiraguy3929 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced troodon is probably gonna be a sanctuary dweller. Picking off random juvies and in bug groups take on larger prey. Dilo is gonna be able to take on other small tiers solo and apexes with a full group. Since troodon will probably be more fleshed out some people might play it. Troo also has a quick growth time which some people might prefer. However I also think dilo will basically replace 60-80% of the troo population
@ElusiveLion741
@ElusiveLion741 11 ай бұрын
Dondi did say in his stream the other day that he wasn't happy with how Troodon's venom is currently and that it will get some TLC.
@BlutoToMars
@BlutoToMars 11 ай бұрын
Just recently saw a video about how troodontids are likely to have been omnivores. Not a huge change that would increase their players, but add that and mimicry and I think you could have a fun survivalist dino on your hands!
@HammboneBob
@HammboneBob 11 ай бұрын
There's undeniably a pattern of creature population skewing whenever a new dino drops on these games, but once people get their fill they'll go back to their faves. All in all I hope y'all love the game in the end
@feyytime5571
@feyytime5571 11 ай бұрын
For Troodon to be good you need a pack. Its really hard to find one since Global Chat doesn't exist anymore. This leads to less people wanting to play Troodon, which makes finding a pack even harder and so on.
@YourAverageSpy955
@YourAverageSpy955 11 ай бұрын
YES THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR MONTHS NOW!!!! SOMEONE FINALLY MADE A VIDEO OF IT On Dondi's stream he said that he was unsatisfied with Troodon's venom so it's going to get some changes like the Ambience that Dilo is getting but taking what works and altering it for Troodon and I think it's gonna get some other things too Also Kissen said that Dilo might have better NV than Troodon for some reason even though smaller Dinos have better NV than bigger ones
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
so glad he realizes this. i understand troodon was the blueprint for all future venomous creatures but i really hope they go back and give it some love
@lifewithhonordiewithglory1835
@lifewithhonordiewithglory1835 11 ай бұрын
Its a completely different playstile. I dont think troodons will die
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
Of course it's a different play style. But almost nobody is going to be playing troodon unless they are doing it as a joke or don't have time to grow something for 2 hours
@lifewithhonordiewithglory1835
@lifewithhonordiewithglory1835 11 ай бұрын
@halfslyced so nothing changes, the ones who love the rat will stay, they never got much playtime. As long as I'm finding one or two other player this is all worth it.
@Bleghspread
@Bleghspread 11 ай бұрын
I do get the idea why is troodon constantly compared to dilo but to me, troodon was always just a smaller squishier raptor of a similar gameplay style as raptor with the difference of using raw dmg output rather than bleeding and some minigame to it as an addition. Not necessarily fitting into current roster since there is not so much prey in adulthood that can be considered easy for troodon to kill or common to find. But it would be fun to find out later that troodons are actually capable and very good at killing dilos :D This is something that can pull this dynamic to another level and maybe even solve the issue, who knows. I would definitely like to see something like that or maybe even ability to temporarily nullify dilo´s venom/NV range after envenomation.
@muffin_cat4117
@muffin_cat4117 11 ай бұрын
big parties like 3-5 people in a discord will opt for troodons because of the group size, plus its fun af to be super coordinated. not sure what group size is for dilo, with venom effects hopefull 2-3 lol
@BeaverBeBussi
@BeaverBeBussi 11 ай бұрын
It’s mostly gonna be around 8 a group
@BeaverBeBussi
@BeaverBeBussi 11 ай бұрын
Because there pack hunters
@crabhater9373
@crabhater9373 11 ай бұрын
I thought troodon's venom drained the target's stam. Did they nerf it? That's how I thought it should work. It makes more sense and with the new stam rework could actually be a threat. Troodon should be a nimble rat that kills by attrition, so the longer the fight the better the odds that they win. I heard they were reworking troodon venom, i hope this is included in the changes.
@stryfegamingonline7583
@stryfegamingonline7583 11 ай бұрын
No Troodon venom does no damage and only increases the damage of further pounces. The top community ask was for stamina drain. But Dondi went another direction.
@stevynn
@stevynn 11 ай бұрын
Some of the changes made to venom are getting carried over to troodon according to dondi so hopefully troodon will be more fun
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
Yeah like the distorted ambience. Which I'm happy about
@sziklamester1244
@sziklamester1244 11 ай бұрын
The roster is constantly improving with additional creatures and in my opinion it is not worth to make conclusion like this because if a creature is interesting or you like it or it is your favorite then you will play it. The server capacity needs to upgraded also improved and more servers should be added to maintain the player population. Also considering ai creatures to be added aswell to fill the missing places so players could see more "prey" and helpful animals. My own example for this is Warframe where there are always 4+3 prime warframe released each year and now we have 55 + a lot variant of frames and while true you see them less and less but because the roster is large the option is also larger to pick one what you like. There are warframes what I almost never see but there are people whom still playing them only just not aware of it. The same goes to The Isle because the roster is also improving, more choice of pick available you will choose whatever you like. The server population also needs to result the changes and an increased server cap and more players would make the population more diverse. Not guarantee you will play a specific creature but some will. Btw I am a Hypsi player.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
I'm aware they go back and add things to older playables. situations I talk about in my videos are foreseeable, and current problems. that doesn't mean they cannot be avoided or fixed. the only thing I can see them doing to get people to play Troodon is if they make it's venom do something besides damage to spice things up and make it interesting.
@totallynormaldude2137
@totallynormaldude2137 11 ай бұрын
i mostly play as troodon solo trying to eat peoples babys, the best are from the nest and sometimes try to use the venom somehow on juvie dinos like pachys,carnos and more, i never tried attacking a stego it just sounds too risky
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
you cant get anything else unless you have a good group. find some other troodons (nearly impossible) and you can pretty much take down whatever you want.
@totallynormaldude2137
@totallynormaldude2137 11 ай бұрын
i found a group of troodons once, but the problem was they didn't even know how to play the game, it's hard to find troodons and it's way harder to find troodons that actually know what they're doing@@halfslyced
@magentalizard1250
@magentalizard1250 11 ай бұрын
Devs said they wanna do changes to troodons venom when dilos comes cause they aren't happy with how it currently is
@RWDOWNPOUR
@RWDOWNPOUR 11 ай бұрын
huge groups of ai troodons hunting players would be cool
@slimebucket642
@slimebucket642 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I really gotta agree with a alot you said. Especially about players who are just waiting for Dilo at this point. I'll be honest and admit it, when it was confirmed that mimicry was getting scrapped for Trodoon, it completely lost my interest and I decided to wait it out for Dilo.
@oldscorp
@oldscorp 10 ай бұрын
He won't have the stealth and speed of troodon, and cuteness is a big factor!
@ThanksImGoood
@ThanksImGoood 11 ай бұрын
although i also like dilo more, they have a completly different playstyle, venom(which is unfinished and they confirmed they will be adding audio ambience when invenomated to troo), and build, and no dilo will not be faster than it💀they arent the same at all so i dont know why this is a argument, just because they both have a venom doesnt mean they are the same and one will over shadow the other, also side note L take saying troo voice is mid, i love its vocals and design so thats completly opinionated
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
sorry for the troodon call slander, i just dont like it lol. and idk why i said it was gonna be as fast as troo ofc it wont i was just yappin, but its still gonna be quick af
@BeaverBeBussi
@BeaverBeBussi 11 ай бұрын
I dont agree they are kinda the same they have venom dilos venom is wayyyyyyyyy better then troodons dilos venom is hulicanations and it does more venom yes there will still be some troodon player based on the grow times but dilo is faster there venom is way better and other night vision is better and a group of dilos could take out any dino on the roster I respect your opinion but I just don't think what your saying is true but thanks for the nice opinion have a good day/night!!
@JulianMeier
@JulianMeier 11 ай бұрын
well in dondis livestream dilo had 47 km/h and troodon has 45km/h, so if they dont change that dilo is for sure faster
@ThanksImGoood
@ThanksImGoood 11 ай бұрын
@@BeaverBeBussi honestly I don’t think so, they are good in their own ways, dilos venoms is cooler but it isn’t as effective (using pound for pound estimates obviously dilos does more damage bc it’s bigger) troos do amazing dps 3rd stage, just because dilos looks cooler doesn’t mean it outshines it stat wise
@ThanksImGoood
@ThanksImGoood 11 ай бұрын
@@JulianMeier when did he say that? I feel like I would’ve heard that given I always watch the streams and the commentator videos revising it, that seems like serious info they’d want to say in the videos, also dilos legacy ambush speed was 45 (same as troo) and even IF it’s faster it won’t be nearly as agile so it won’t even matter
@chadjynkx7351
@chadjynkx7351 11 ай бұрын
Dilo will be the #1 Apex just like he is on Legacy
@CurseOfVanishingI
@CurseOfVanishingI 11 ай бұрын
Dondi said in he’s stream he doesn’t like troodons current venom and they will rework it
@Vegan2387
@Vegan2387 11 ай бұрын
Troodons venom will be working like dilos. But troodon will never be a night demon like dilo. Those bastards are pure terror in the night. This is why I will be mastering it :D
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
Dilo supremacy
@Vegan2387
@Vegan2387 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced Yep. Almost my main from legacy. On evrima, it will be more fun making people to live in fear at night.
@thetuoppi2
@thetuoppi2 11 ай бұрын
Well, Troodoon is a meme-tier dino. killing other dinos as a Troodon pack is a highlight, not something you pull off on a regular basis consistently. Anything smaller than Utah or Dilo is not a competitive dino in terms of combat. Troodoon, Herrera and anything similar in size is meant to threaten humans and serve more in different game modes than Evrima. Dilo will hardly make an impact in the population of Troodoon, as Troodoon players are more about being small fast growing dino to meme around. However, Dilo will compete with Utah and will split the population of Utahs in half, serving as a choice between bleed damage pack playstyle or poison shenanigans pack playstyle.
@MIApor
@MIApor 11 ай бұрын
So: - Troodon venom will be reworked (said Dondi) - has low HP, but is fast-growing, unlike Dilo - you do realise that an adult troodon can pin down half the fresh spawns and a solo troodon can kill any fresh spawns? So the Dryo argument is completely BS - a coordinated team can demolish any solo dino (unless they run away) - its small size makes it very easy to disappear even in grassland during the day. Not to mention the smaller hitbox. - Ohh, it's not an apex and actually requires a strategy to use? That's not the animal's fault. Its low HP is only a problem in the case of desync and pounce bugs. But these are present in the case of the Omni, and people still play it, so... The other problem is that Troodon is a team dino, you can't really play it with randoms, because they keep resetting the envenomation process :(( But other than these 2 drawbacks, troodon is pretty good. If I encounter a good team, I always run, and I advise the same to everybody.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
So (Remastered) : - i did say i was good and could take out the majority of the roster with it's venom. - dryos can beat the shit out of it still (I've witnessed many slaughters.) - i never enjoyed playing apex in legacy/PoT and I think everyone who ONLY play apex are braindead stink monkeys. - i enjoy playing troodon but unfortunately it will be diminished to a meme animal like hypsi and the only people playing it will be to f around or if they don't have time to grow anything else.
@MIApor
@MIApor 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced - then this only means that you prefer Dilo more than Troodon - just because the two player wasn't on the same skill level, doesn't mean that Dryo is better in combat. I also witnessed many things in the game, and most of them are based on skill and luck. - okay, I agree. So? People will still choose dinos that don't require much planning. It won't mean Troodon is bad, only that people prefer larger and less complicated playables. - we will see that part. Don't forget, many dinos are gonna be forgotten once the roaster has bigger options. People just love OP stuff. And that's why many of the currently popular dinos gonna be forgotten too.
@stryfegamingonline7583
@stryfegamingonline7583 11 ай бұрын
Dilo will have a grow time similar to Raptor. Rosterwide it will still be a fast grower. Troodons can kill fresh spawns.... great so can literally everything else. A coordinated pack can take anything. Great link that every happening or someone claiming it happened to them... Troodon will need a damn good venom rework to survive Dilo release.
@Dimitriterrorman
@Dimitriterrorman 11 ай бұрын
WHAT dilo is the one im least excited for its gonna make little to no impact especially as more dinos are added
@srjogpo6430
@srjogpo6430 11 ай бұрын
I played troodon on a gateway around the time it came out and it… sucks because you can basically only kill something if it’s a fresh spawn or your in a mega pack. It just isn’t that fun compared to other dinos
@Checklist_STT
@Checklist_STT 11 ай бұрын
Troodon needs actual venom, not this bullshit damage buff we have now.
@Wolf-bq5jt
@Wolf-bq5jt 11 ай бұрын
I'd play troo alot more if they sorted camera for it
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
yeah it feels super low tbh i can't even see thru the grass lmao
@Avoithic
@Avoithic 11 ай бұрын
W here in the first 8 second gang
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
massive W
@MrTickles445
@MrTickles445 11 ай бұрын
I think people will still play troodons just because of how fast it is to grow. Not many people have time to grow something for 2 hours so I believe troodons will still be played.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
yeah this is true. i imagine dilo gonna have the same grow time similar to teno's
@YourAverageSpy955
@YourAverageSpy955 11 ай бұрын
One of the main issues playing Troodon is having to grow it just to only die instantly a few pounces in, barely getting to play/experience it full grown and having to start from the beginning again just takes away the fun of it
@SimonBauer
@SimonBauer 11 ай бұрын
no one plays it anywas - ive seen 2 the whole time on gateway and the other 1 was me lol
@acay5722
@acay5722 11 ай бұрын
Honestly i dont even care about which Dino gets added anymore, im just so f-ing tired of waiting. The speed at which development is going is horrible, im currently in a "Play the Isle for half an hour, get bored because the game is empty af, start Path of Titans, get annoyed by people chilling together like theyre playing vrchat with no realism whatsoever behind it, also the graphics are nowhere nearly as good, stop playing after half an hour, start The Isle again, repeat" Situation. I know they said they wanna wait until they have a "huge bundle" of things to add, but honestly, the next huge bundle might be their stuff in a bag outside their office after ending development because their game died.
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
the vr chat thing is so real i say the same thing al the time. most unofficial servers keep water quality off so everyone sits around crater waiting for a rulebreaker so they can all dogpile them in the chat to make themselves feel empowered because all they do is sit on their ass irl and in the video game.
@BeaverBeBussi
@BeaverBeBussi 11 ай бұрын
W vid
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
W comment
@BeaverBeBussi
@BeaverBeBussi 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced honestly I’ve watched a lot of your videos don’t know if u seen my comments or remember me but I love your videos and your the best isle creator
@BeaverBeBussi
@BeaverBeBussi 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced I would love to play the isle sometime do you have a discord?
@profilenotfound2525
@profilenotfound2525 11 ай бұрын
No cuz it cant fkn jump
@halfslyced
@halfslyced 11 ай бұрын
majority of the roster can't jump. dilo don't need to jump, other things need to jump FROM it.
@profilenotfound2525
@profilenotfound2525 11 ай бұрын
@@halfslyced hell no, theres literally 0 reason for dilo to not have a jump ability, and lol teno is gonna shit on dilo
@СергійЯремчук-м4р
@СергійЯремчук-м4р 11 ай бұрын
Troodon useless
@keriannlemmonds1567
@keriannlemmonds1567 10 ай бұрын
Promo*SM
@discoshrew7403
@discoshrew7403 11 ай бұрын
Yes but troodon is useless and shouldn’t exist in the first place so it’s fine
@shlingusdingus4174
@shlingusdingus4174 11 ай бұрын
As a troodon player, I will definitely abandon Troo the second dilo comes out. Troodon is insufferable to play on the gateway. It has no stam, can barely find ai or take down its preferred prey properly unless there's 20 other adults with you. Unless you hunt absolutely fresh, unattended juvies or hatchlings, there isn't much going for it. It should be the easiest carnivore to play as and is anything but that.
@stryfegamingonline7583
@stryfegamingonline7583 11 ай бұрын
This is the only person being honest in here. I only play troodon and I play every night. But it's nearly unplayable and if I wasn't so stubbornly in love with small predators I would have quit for Omni. I am very good. But I am sick of being stuck trolling fresh spawns and scavenging. I was a Dilo player in Legacy. I'm done if this doesn't get fixed.
@shlingusdingus4174
@shlingusdingus4174 11 ай бұрын
@@stryfegamingonline7583 I'm a good Troo player aswell, most of my hours on the Isle are from maining dilo. I agree with you completely, and I'm sick of not being able to thrive as what is supposed to be the second easiest carnivore in the game.
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