WILL IT START? 40'S BARN FIND CHEVY TRUCK! We Have No Idea What we’re doing!

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WILL IT START? 1940'S BARN FIND CHEVROLET CONVERSION TRUCK
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@davidbranch397
@davidbranch397 Жыл бұрын
Wiley, the coil is constant power (spark) and the camshaft turns the distributor causing point to open and close and that is how it knows when to spark. The condenser absorbs power (spark) when not firing and discharges when firing. Hope that helps. Hank, you OHM test across a coil. To see if it has power to it, probe positive side but ground it to anything grounded NOT the negative side of coil, thats for the points to signal spark. Therefore IF points are open, theres no ground to voltage test. P.S. the condensor is far more likely to be bad Hank. That lil bugger will stop spark all together if bad. Coils are rather tough if not overheated.
@davidlinux
@davidlinux Жыл бұрын
In my mechanic days, many many moons ago, the service truck had boxes of points and condensers. Seldom did a coil go bad. David you gave an excellent description of the process. I used to love the GM distributor points door. Even I could adjust them. 😂
@ericbailey6209
@ericbailey6209 Жыл бұрын
My question is,, might the Capacitor be bad??
@wendellbrown2215
@wendellbrown2215 Жыл бұрын
That david too
@wendellbrown2215
@wendellbrown2215 Жыл бұрын
David told you the right answer
@marionbarnard5441
@marionbarnard5441 4 ай бұрын
You need to change the petrol pump and call the coverage and the oil in which ticket and then bring up mechanic with us with you girls A woman mechanic Toyota hollows for the blue truck what's the And get a touch of the touch of the touch of the truck Peter boot
@robertbudlong4590
@robertbudlong4590 Жыл бұрын
watching you guys work on a gas engine is painful but great effort love your videos
@SirFace4
@SirFace4 Жыл бұрын
KZbin is making it harder and harder to watch with all the ads gettin in the way, killing the enjoyment. But hangin in there cause I love you guys. God Bless Y'all!
@rg01740
@rg01740 Жыл бұрын
If there ever was a vehicle worthy of a Hank and Wiley do-over it would be this one. That dual wheeled antique truck would be worth some serious $$ if it was fixed up!
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
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@feindl
@feindl Жыл бұрын
Sorta miss the wider angle views and less back and forth switching in the videos. I’m Probably the only one that cares but for Me, it takes away from the personality and relaxing nature of watching u guys work together. I learn so much from how you work together naturally and interact when u overcome adversity… love you guys - thanks for all u do! I watch for the life lessons more than learning but you have a talent together for those underlying life lessons on how to treat your friends and family. That’s a special thing that your natural chemistry shows!!!! ☮️💜
@ricklorenzen7204
@ricklorenzen7204 Жыл бұрын
Recapped 2. 16 on the the Gage it is either the points or condenser
@johnhicks735
@johnhicks735 Жыл бұрын
It is the vacuum canister for the brake booster Wiley your right about that part.& It controls your other vacuum for your other vacuum controlled parts on that truck to as well to guys.
@funfun9360
@funfun9360 Жыл бұрын
Remove and clean the carburetor, Clean all jets inside the carburetor, see if the float valve pin is stopping the petrol flow from the tank. Check if the float is not having liquid inside and is floating on petrol. Replace all gaskets of carburetor. Reassemble and try one more time. Hope there is spark on every spark plug all the time of cranking. Remove one spark plug pour 5 drops of petrol in one cylinder then put the spark plug and start cranking.
@moltenmetal5645
@moltenmetal5645 Жыл бұрын
Diesel guys attempting to work on gas engines might be the funnest video i have seen in awhile.
@kWT49
@kWT49 Жыл бұрын
That can is a vacuum storage canister. Helps the vacuum operated wipers work.
@bmacd2112
@bmacd2112 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that soup can you see is a vacuum reserve for the wipers. Most vehicles back then had vacuum driven wipers. The main problem with them is that every time you step on the gas, the wipers would stop for a few seconds. Adding a reserve would help with that problem.
@FedUpCanuck
@FedUpCanuck Жыл бұрын
Don't forget many of the vehicles from that era came with 6 volt not 12 I was surprised to hear an electric fuel pump was actually used especially on a truck motor
@faithinchrist8215
@faithinchrist8215 Жыл бұрын
The wipers say “dumb-guy” with each swipe otherwise
@truck87654321
@truck87654321 Жыл бұрын
@@FedUpCanuck Almost everyone who kept these trucks converted them over to 12volt .
@FedUpCanuck
@FedUpCanuck Жыл бұрын
@@truck87654321 that's true but just to make sure it never hurts to find out especially with older vehicles
@jeffreymasurier4714
@jeffreymasurier4714 Жыл бұрын
The spark is created by the points interrupting the neutral side of the coil when the coils power is interrupted by the points opening is when the coil produces the high voltage for the spark plugs
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
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@farmsimaussie1992
@farmsimaussie1992 Жыл бұрын
29:00 the diaphragm is the very old style vacuum timing advance, the newer ones worked internally by moving only the points, the older style worked by moving the whole distributor similar to the advance timing on the Model T Fords
@noelwarner1235
@noelwarner1235 Жыл бұрын
Hey Hank here's a deal on the carburetor leak. The thing that you're pointing to on the carb is the throttle shaft these carbs were notorious for the shaft wearing the body of the carb and leaking around them it's not a major deal my Chevy Nova does the same thing it's a common problem the throttle shaft and bushing is just worn. If it's leaking really bad it should still run but would need to be repaired eventually. Where the fuel line screws into the carburetor that big nut screws out as well and there is a ceramic filter in it
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
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@faithinchrist8215
@faithinchrist8215 Жыл бұрын
My 1941 had a brass filter and I believe they were common.
@drtfn10
@drtfn10 Жыл бұрын
hank make sure the points and igniter are clean. sand paper or the back of the match book will clean the points. they also have to be set usually i think around 45,000ths.
@robertforget6369
@robertforget6369 Жыл бұрын
you know hank there needs to be a part two to this one God bless
@nrth-ng9sm
@nrth-ng9sm Жыл бұрын
Run direct power to a ballast resistor and then to the coil positive side
@ni_wink84
@ni_wink84 Жыл бұрын
You guys did fine, just missed a couple things gas engines need, I would replace points, ohm out the coil to see if it’s good and if anything hot wire the coil to the battery, for diesels boys y’all did amazing!
@MrSuperchargeron
@MrSuperchargeron Жыл бұрын
The coil produces a spark when the power is taken away. It's a collapse of the energizing of the secondary winding in the coil that produces a spark. Put 12v to the coil and simply take the negative lead and ground it for a split second. When you take it off ground, the coil should produce spark. Once you establish that you have a good coil, you need to make sure your points are opening and closing. The timing of the points opening needs to coincide with the piston being at nearly top dead center. The points opening and being timed with the pistons is how it "knows" when to spark.
@stevenallen975
@stevenallen975 Жыл бұрын
I'm saying it's late 30's early 40's,I am thinking it's 1938 model,Love your channel,
@johnhicks735
@johnhicks735 Жыл бұрын
Check all the wiring going from inside of the cab.& Out to those points. Check for A resistor going to the coil as well to. Cause if it's bad it will not let power flow through to the distributor.& Coil.,or check for A blown linkable fuse on the firewall of that truck to. Cause it maybe bad to.
@johnmayer158
@johnmayer158 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys, If you put 12v to the coil, and take the center wire close to a metallic ground, open and close the points manually. You should see spark from the coil wire to ground. Also, the vacuum under the distributor adjusted the timing. One thing as a helping idea...if/when you pour gas down into a carburetor on something that has sat for a long time, it is a good idea to use a 2 cycle mix of gas/oil to help lubricate the rings and top end of the motor when cranking over...helps until the engine can develop enough oil pressure. Can't wait to see the next part...
@tomfontaine2183
@tomfontaine2183 Жыл бұрын
Vacuum advance under the coil,
@faithinchrist8215
@faithinchrist8215 Жыл бұрын
Very good idea using the gas oil mix! Please no more ether.., You can also put a few drops of oil in each cylinder under the spark plugs.
@johnhicks735
@johnhicks735 Жыл бұрын
It has A shaft that has A cammed gear that works off of the oil pump gear inside of the camshaft gear. When the engine rotates.& Moves that camshaft it sparks from the points distributor.& Then to the coil I'd check the power wire feed into the points distributor.& Going out to the coil. Yes I'd clean those points with A points file.& Bring A coil along that way you'll have all of your parts on hand the first time.& I'd get A new set of points to just to be on the safe side of things. Remember to set those points top dead center at 00.20 is the gap depth setting for those points to.
@BillsDoneIt
@BillsDoneIt Жыл бұрын
Points and condenser first, coil second.
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
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@tylerhendrix539
@tylerhendrix539 Жыл бұрын
The rib cage style grille was used in 39 and 40 on the 1/2 ton trucks. I believe at that time Chevrolet was known for their larger truck styling following the 1/2 ton by a year or two. I would guess it's between a 40 and 42
@larrytucker2938
@larrytucker2938 Жыл бұрын
This was funny. Wiley, you were born in the gas engine years but... it's a 6 volt system; you have to clean the points; and most of those were positive ground. Unless all the lights have been switched to 12 volts, say goodbye to the headlights😂
@davida.p.9911
@davida.p.9911 Жыл бұрын
Other people will know more than me, but I'd clean all the contacts in the distributor cap and the points. The condenser may even need to be replaced. (The tiny cylinder in the distributor) and see how that does. I'm not sure about the carburetor. I'm assuming it needs a gasket (RTV works too). And see how that works. Thanks for sharing guys! God bless!
@RJArens
@RJArens Жыл бұрын
On old stuff like this I know has sat a good while, my first go to is always the points. They always seem to need cleaning if it hasn't ran in a long time.
@BudgetBuildz
@BudgetBuildz Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a cool ole rig! I’m sure it won’t take much to get her to fire to life 👌
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
😁👍
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 Жыл бұрын
David explains it very well how it works. The High Voltage jumps the tiny gap from the rotor in the distributor to the output wires to the spark plugs. Put your meter on the Ohms scale to check the coil for continuity. There could be a high-power series resistor in the feed wire to the coil. Vehicles of this vintage may have originally had a 6 Volts system. The speed of the starter sounds good, and it is most likely a 12 Volts system or got converted at some stage.
@grahamepigney8565
@grahamepigney8565 Жыл бұрын
The "coffee can" is possibly the reservoir for the vacuum operated windscreen wipers.
@josephoester7528
@josephoester7528 Жыл бұрын
It sure is.
@bryanhough
@bryanhough Жыл бұрын
With the ignition on, if you ground the center wire out of the coil, you should get a spark. If you pull a spark plug wire and hold it near a ground, you should get the spark as it turns over.
@joearozum1264
@joearozum1264 Жыл бұрын
Make sure the points open and close , before the coil will discharge !
@FloydHayesjr
@FloydHayesjr Жыл бұрын
That was a good choice saying that about checking the points that's one of the main things for it to get spark
@roughroad666
@roughroad666 11 ай бұрын
I haven't yelled so loud at the TV in a very long time! I loved the video but I could have gotten it to fire off in about ten minutes, I ain't saying it would run perfectly but it would have fired off and I would know what the next thing to do would be from there. You guys are a hoot! I have had the best time watching this! I don't know crap about diesels so you two have taught me mountains in that respect but gassers, well, let's just say somebody needs to take a course or have Wes or another KZbinr on speed dial!! lol. Take care!
@lonniemcmillan3211
@lonniemcmillan3211 Жыл бұрын
I believe that pull cable is for the distributor. It should move it! If so you will need to play with it to get her to fire up! After you get power going through the coil and points!
@WeeShoeyDugless
@WeeShoeyDugless Жыл бұрын
You hit it on the head right at the end Hank, you need fuel, air, compression & spark and that engine was never going to start without spark. I suggest you thoroughly clean the points, making sure the points are off cam, ie: not open. (where the points contact the distributor cam in the centre, they need to be on a low spot). When you have cleaned them and with the ignition on, give the points a gentle flick, you should see a 12v spark across the points, if you dont, you ain't getting a power signal to your coil. Once you get that side of it sorted, and with the (way too much gas you poured down that carb🤣), she'll fire up, I betcha👍👍
@tommyhall2768
@tommyhall2768 Жыл бұрын
Hey buddy good to see y'all good luck with the old truck see you soon
@nelsonmattoon150
@nelsonmattoon150 Жыл бұрын
Awesome worth some money
@scottpadoleski4692
@scottpadoleski4692 Жыл бұрын
Stay with what you know
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
Lol. I hear ya
@codydaniel7389
@codydaniel7389 Жыл бұрын
Another way to check for spark, if you're like my grandpa was, pull one of the plug wires grab the end of the wire where it connects to the plug and ground yourself, if your eye starts twitching you know it's good, lol, but on a serious note if you take one of the plug wires and get a light tester, can be bought at any auto parts store and cheap, put the clip on something to ground it and stick the tip of the light tester in the plug wire at the plug end, if any fire it should light up
@robertstevison1448
@robertstevison1448 Жыл бұрын
I agree with David check the condenser inside the distributer make sure the points and coil wire are good !!! It's not difficult to check the condenser the coil is actually like a capacitor !!! The condenser is the little round tubular thing with a wire going to your points !!!
@noelwarner1235
@noelwarner1235 Жыл бұрын
It could have vacuum wipers. Pull a plug out or use a known good plug and ground it on the head to see if you have fire if you have fire poor fuel down the top of the carb it should at least fire off if it won't stay running. If you don't have fire the points could be stuck together or just really dirty. I would say that is probably a 235 motor.
@noelwarner1235
@noelwarner1235 Жыл бұрын
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@davekauffman8727
@davekauffman8727 Жыл бұрын
i recommend watching videos from Junkyard Digs, Kevin knows gasoline engines really well. You can test the coil by putting a hot wire to the positive terminal, and jumping to a good ground (negative) on the frame or engine, touching a wire to ground should make a spark at the main wire from the top of the coil, doing the job of the points. You probably need to clean the points better.
@stephensaasen8589
@stephensaasen8589 Жыл бұрын
Some things to know about gas powered vehicles built before 1954: they originally were built to run on 6 volts. The starter will crank on 12 volts but you have to make sure the rest of the system is running on 6. Your coil might handle 12 volt for a short time but the rest of the system will burn up. To see if it's been converted to 12 volt, look at the data plate on the generator or regulator to see if it says 12 volt anywhere. Also, many pre-1954 vehicles had positive ground rather than negative ground. One way to check is if the positive side of the ignition coil wire goes to the distributor and negative comes from firewall. This may not help though if someone who didn't know crossed the wires already before you got there. Most likely, though, this has negative ground because GM generally made GMC truck positive ground and Chevrolet truck negative ground. The engine most likely is a 216. There may not be an oil filter as the oil system had no pump but a scoop system to fling oil onto the moving parts. You gotta keep the oil clean if that's so. There should be hydraulic brakes with mechanical clutch. Nice old truck. It's possible that it dates to the late 1930's even. In 1941 Chevy changed design to half horizontal grill and bottom half vertical. Great find!
@johnhicks735
@johnhicks735 Жыл бұрын
Yes Wiley you can along with verifying the VIN code plate on the dashboard if there is one riveted on to it.& Door jambs to.
@raywilson800
@raywilson800 Жыл бұрын
Vacuum over hydraulic brakes is what you have there. That what they used on semis before air brakes. That's about a 3500 series truck. Those lines under the dash probably went to a hand valve to operate the trailer brakes.❤🐘🇺🇸Do you see a ballast resistor on the firewall or fender well?
@shartne
@shartne Жыл бұрын
Cool looking old truck. Its a beauty. It turns over really fast. Every rig should have a good gas tank. Boat tanks are good for first starts.
@FedUpCanuck
@FedUpCanuck Жыл бұрын
Turning over really easy could also indicate compression issues maybe stuck rings
@danielrobey1759
@danielrobey1759 Жыл бұрын
It’s likely a 6v starter being fed 12v, that makes them crank really fast… see it a lot with older farm tractors
@FedUpCanuck
@FedUpCanuck Жыл бұрын
@@danielrobey1759 I like the old beasts and grew up in the muscle car era. So much easier to work on without smog control or electronics
@shartne
@shartne Жыл бұрын
@@FedUpCanuck True and a good starter too.
@shartne
@shartne Жыл бұрын
@@danielrobey1759 Nice.
@davidbarr832
@davidbarr832 Жыл бұрын
You grab hold of that coil wire while it cranking it will be better than cup of coffee 😆 the canister looks like a vacuum canister.
@bmacd2112
@bmacd2112 Жыл бұрын
In the Navy, we would have referred to that operation as "Two Monkeys trying to f___ the same football"!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Great entertainment.
@toddmabey1299
@toddmabey1299 Жыл бұрын
According to the grill on this truck....it is a 1940 truck. In '41 the grill on the trucks changed quite a bit and were the same thru '47. Also....the truck would have been 6 volt originally, so obviously they did the 12 volt conversion at some point. And simple rule of thumb with and gas motor....if you're putting ether in it and you don't get any pop....your first problem is no spark. You may still have fuel side issues.....but if you have spark the ether will at least pop. No pop.....no spark.
@glennjukes5581
@glennjukes5581 Жыл бұрын
I love you guys video's. Man--what a crazy world you guys have found. Keep the video's coming!
@MrEferrell
@MrEferrell Жыл бұрын
1939 is the only model year that matches this truck. Also, it has a newer Chevy engine, 235/262/292 design. The engine came out in '53 in Chevys with powerglide transmissions and were often referred to as Powerglide engines because the engines in standard transmission cars were still the old style 216 with oil slingers on the rods and adjustable lifters, where these engines had full pressure oil systems and hydraulic lifters.
@faithinchrist8215
@faithinchrist8215 Жыл бұрын
The 216 had babbitted bearings and dippers on the rods.
@jimsullivan3178
@jimsullivan3178 Жыл бұрын
Engine is 53/54. Clue is old style water pump, 55 and later had a different style pump.
@Doodle-dm6qf
@Doodle-dm6qf Жыл бұрын
Its your vacuum advance hooked up at the bottom of distributor. Those were fine trucks in the day. 6,000 lbs payload. That 5th wheel is a farm cradle to pull hay wagons and such. 3 speed trans with overdrive (lever on the stick shift).
@stevecurtiss46
@stevecurtiss46 Жыл бұрын
Ha Ha You guys are so funny! That "coffee can" is a home made vacume service/storage canister for the wipers so they don't slow down on a hill, luv you guys, keep on a trickin!
@babaninja9043
@babaninja9043 Жыл бұрын
It’s part of the adventure. Good luck 👍🏻
@JohnRott
@JohnRott 5 ай бұрын
Hank that’s a really nice truck you really should buy that and restore it definitely be worth it.
@ThePigslayer
@ThePigslayer Жыл бұрын
Clean the points and set the gap. The electric pump probably produces more pressure than what the needle and seat can stop and I would venture to bet they’re stuck. These trucks start easy as long as they get spark. Pull the plugs and set those gaps also. .030” is a good place to start on the plugs and .018 is a good place to start on the points.
@kd5byb
@kd5byb Жыл бұрын
What a cool truck! I definitely agree with some of the previous commenters that y'all need a do-over on this one. I see many comments below about points, the coil, etc., and with that, I bet y'all would nail it next time. BTW, just ordered some Olights with your link as Christmas presents. :)
@jebsails2837
@jebsails2837 Жыл бұрын
My Chev. '39 4dr. Master Deluxe, had a similar can arrangement. As I recall the Motors Manual said that it was for the vacuum assist shift mechanism. Wasn't connected when I got it in the mid 60's so I left it like that. Narragansett Bay
@billjunking_fool5549
@billjunking_fool5549 Жыл бұрын
Taking distributor cap off remove the rotor take a flathead screwdriver between the point Breakers and open and shut the points if the coil is good and getting good connection the wire will spark it's not a fuel issue it would have fired with the first shot of starting fluid you can also run a direct wire from the positive battery terminal to the positive coil
@mabloodhound
@mabloodhound Жыл бұрын
Exactly, has to b e spark problem, not fuel.
@martineastburn3679
@martineastburn3679 Жыл бұрын
40's early 50's. Looks like an oil bath air filter. The top normally was a wing nut. Might have lost it...on the road. That is a Generator DC V. Alternators AC V are not that old. Plug might be 15/16 ? Looking at the dash dial - 56. In the late 60's Alternators came in lots of cars were generators still. Our 57 Ford Fairlane (Large wings 🙂) generator but our 67 T-Bird had Alternator as I recall. I bet that is black rubber. MTBE melts rubber. Caused engine fires. Went to Neoprene. Turn Carb for vac advance. Should be tight. The points should turn on and off as it cranks. I bet the Air needs rotating. Points turn on-off-on with a cam on the engine. Can be turned for a different cam action - and timing.
@hiscifi2986
@hiscifi2986 Жыл бұрын
You are missing a few tricks both with the carb and the ignition. One of my favourite carb tricks was to hold your hand over the inlet, then crank over, if your hand gets wet with petrol then you know the fuel is going through the jets. That worked with my Commer Van which had water in the tank, the water drops blocked the jets, and my suction pulled the drops of water through the jets, and we continued on our way.. The points need to be taken out and ground to a flat surface, to achieve the best possible spark. Don't grind them too much though, as the platinum contacts are only about 2mm thick. Best of luck, hope it runs again soon.
@davidcantrill5036
@davidcantrill5036 Жыл бұрын
Pull one of. The spark plug wires hold it about 1/8 inch from a good ground. Try to start if you see a spark coil and points good. If not check points, condenser, and coil.
@robertdominiczak6523
@robertdominiczak6523 Жыл бұрын
This is like watching laurel and hardy. Come on guys petrol engines are so easy to start. You need to watch mortski or vice grip garage 😅
@andyc82
@andyc82 27 күн бұрын
that coffee can is the vapor canister - most all cars and truck had one from the factory
@jayjones6904
@jayjones6904 Жыл бұрын
Nice ole trk glad its still around ty guys
@darynhammons4981
@darynhammons4981 Жыл бұрын
Pro tip on the carb take a bread tie and get the wire out of it and run it threw the jets to clean them very important easy first step to get a gas motor running a small tip cleaner works well to.
@fire48pw
@fire48pw Жыл бұрын
Oh this was painfully hilarious to watch lol. Kudos for trying! Guys this is a easy start or it should be. You will get it do a little research on Distributors and a Coil. 🤭
@tommygray1763
@tommygray1763 Жыл бұрын
That's a very cool truck I hope you guys can get it running
@avenger1888
@avenger1888 Жыл бұрын
I think Walley, Hank of Hamiltonville Farm should team up with Mustie 1 for the gas powered vehicles. I think it would be a good collaboration.
@johngligo4049
@johngligo4049 Жыл бұрын
Very awesome old Chevy truck! Hope you get it started!
@johnhicks735
@johnhicks735 Жыл бұрын
0 . | You'll see symbols that look something like that.,or A Arrow marking.& Or dots.,or dashes to indicate the correct placement alignment of both crankshaft.& Harmonic balancer.
@johnhicks735
@johnhicks735 Жыл бұрын
If the light lens on the front & back haven't been replaced with different years it's most likely possible to identify that truck by those to also along with the other information needed to verify it all as one vehicle year make.& Model of truck that is.
@billgunter3484
@billgunter3484 Жыл бұрын
If ever up for sale, would be an interested party as it sits. FYI, I would put in new points, cap, condenser, wires and plugs. There are rebuild kits for the carb and they are simple to do. Good luck and want to see a follow up on this one.
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
It’s for sale. Email me if you’re interested
@billgunter3484
@billgunter3484 Жыл бұрын
Send me your email address and I'll send you mine. Where's it located?
@HamiltonvilleFarm
@HamiltonvilleFarm Жыл бұрын
Hank at hamiltonville farm dot com… it’s in Andalusia Alabama
@rushdipaleker
@rushdipaleker Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up from cape Town south Africa. Love your content bro
@mikequinlan3697
@mikequinlan3697 Жыл бұрын
Chk the points for crud,and chk the coil for voltage
@Cataskew
@Cataskew 5 ай бұрын
On gasoline engines the priority is spark at the plug gaps correct timing helps after that it’s very forgiving I have had an engine engine fire up with A squirt of fuel no carburetor or intake manifold didn’t work great or long but proved it was worth putting more time into
@JohnSmith-kz1ll
@JohnSmith-kz1ll Жыл бұрын
Jumper wire from positive from battery to positive on coil. Remove cap on distributor spin engine over make sure points are opening. Sand the points if they are indeed opening sand contacts in the cap and the contract on rotor button. Put it back together and fire it up.. if the points are not opening when you spin it over you will have to adjust them very easy process. But I'm sure if you put a 12v jump wire from battery to coil and sand the points you will have spark. There also might be a toggle switch in the cab that the owner installed to provide the power to the coil as well.
@jacobburton1509
@jacobburton1509 Жыл бұрын
In terms that will be easy to understand the coil is a constant power source for the distributor, it takes 12v input and converts/sends it to the distributor. The distributor shaft turns as you crank the engine over. There is a cam lobe inside the distributor that rides against the points opening and closing the gap between the two contact points you tried cleaning with 40 grit sand paper, sending the power to each individual lug on the distributor thus firing the individual wires/plugs for each cylinder. Pull each spark plug wire individually and hold them close to the cylinder head or engine block to see if they are creating a spark( use gloves or insulated pliers since those wires likely have pin holes the spark can jump out of) if none fire you have an issue with the coil or points. If some fire but others don't you likely have a plug wire or contact issue between the distributor cap and rotor on those individual lugs. Remember you may get spark on all of them but it may not be "hot enough" to ignite the fuel. Also keep In mind those points you were cleaning must be gapped specifically to fire properly, flopping them around and bending them can ruin that gap creating a weak or no spark issue. A bad distributor cam lobe can also cause spark issues. As cheap as they are I'd by a universal 12v coil and an ignition kit from oreillys for that distributor. It will come with new Points, condenser, cap, button, and maybe a new gasket for the distributor. I didn't get over technically on this description because I know you guys are less familiar with gas engines then diesel ones. And for that I'm sure there will be some critical comments about my not so technical breakdown. If you need any help in the middle Tennessee area feel free to reach out
@tomboysen7592
@tomboysen7592 Жыл бұрын
,the resivor on floor board probably the master cylinder for brakes the flipper on shifter is used to put in reverse. And the hoses behind cab might lines for vacume trailer breaks. The pullout thing on top by sunvisor might be how you turn on windshield wipers they were vacume and when you went up hill pushing on throttle they would stop because the lack of vacume. My grampa had a pickup with the same body style and I think it was from the 1940 timeline thank you Tom from Nebraska
@switch2818
@switch2818 Жыл бұрын
I love watching you guys! This one was a bit cringy to watch. But I love that you guys gave it a shot.
@paulriggers1558
@paulriggers1558 Жыл бұрын
put 12v [hot] jumper from the battery, directly to the coil positive side . take any wires off the negative side, then put another jumper lead on it. have the coil lead positioned on the valve cover again [like you had before], then rub the jumper lead across the rocker cover, making and breaking contact as you rub. you should get some sparks now. no sparks = busted coil. if you have sparks, you need to concentrate on the wiring down to the distributor, and then to the points. once you have checked the wiring from the coil negative down to the points, [+ refitted it back onto the coil negative], reconnect the hot jumper to the coil positive, get a screwdriver + "flick" the points open. if all is well, you should get a small spark at the points, + a good one at the coil lead. then put the button back on, cap on + spin the motor over, with plug lead on the valve cover [ use a big, long cotter pin pushed down the pluglead to get the spark to the outside + be visible] this should now spark once every 2 engine revolutions don't bother with the gas, just open the throttle 1/4 way + fire the easystart down it's neck, IT WILL NOW RUN !!! the carb is well above your pay grade, it will either work, [with a few leaks] or not.... take care chaps
@pauljordan1457
@pauljordan1457 Жыл бұрын
Guys. Change the HT leads, spark plugs, contact points & rotor arm all for new parts. Should cost about £50 ($60) or less. Take the carburettor off, take it apart and clean it. Doing that should make it start. Coils fine.
@jacktapper7290
@jacktapper7290 Жыл бұрын
Thats either a 1939 or 40 truck. Probably a 1 1/2 ton. 250 straight 6. Good running engine. You guys need to take the carb off and clean it out and looks like a bad coil. Clean the points up and she should spark. That plunger thing below the distributor (lol)cap is a vacuum advance that changes the timing a little as the engine on a load. Clean the plugs and check the wires for continuity. She should come to life once ya get spark. Real nice old truck! I’d like to have that one!
@jsimm4587
@jsimm4587 Жыл бұрын
There’s a high point under the rotor button the distributor turns . When the high part of that little cam comes around to the points they open to about .015 then close . This causes a spark to go to the plug .
@buddypayne5660
@buddypayne5660 Жыл бұрын
The points must be clean before the coil will fire clean the points Good put the rotor back in
@robertlane3513
@robertlane3513 Жыл бұрын
that plunger is the vacum advance for the timing when it starts. plus you should have put some gas down the carb as the needle and seat is probably stuck.and the needle is on top of the float pointed towards where the fuel comes in from the tank.
@tarheelpatch3386
@tarheelpatch3386 Жыл бұрын
You guys need to team up with youtuber Junkyard Digs when messing with gas,he knows his stuff on any gas engine!
@johntrudeaujr950
@johntrudeaujr950 Жыл бұрын
Replace the wires and the spark power is fed from the battery wire connected at the starter, as for the carburetor you need to rebuild it with new seals
@dcw1540
@dcw1540 Жыл бұрын
Nice color truck.I like it thanks
@timothyhatcher8673
@timothyhatcher8673 Жыл бұрын
Definitely new points and coil and wires
@joemcmenamy5896
@joemcmenamy5896 Жыл бұрын
And also keep up the good work guys I love watching your videos
@brianbloom1799
@brianbloom1799 Жыл бұрын
It could also be condenser, Coil is easy to test, Guy's I hate to say this Stick with diesels, that's your forte, And I do like watching you Getting the old Trucks running Makes me miss going cross country, East coast west Coast, My big rig CB and Talking to all the different People you Meet.
@dandunlap8638
@dandunlap8638 Жыл бұрын
The can is a vacuum reservoir. Maybe for brake booster. The wiper might be vacuum as well.
@SUBZEROinfinity
@SUBZEROinfinity Жыл бұрын
I think It's A 1937-38 model grain truck converted to tow rig. Dude WOW what A find. NICE!!! Those mite be negative ground but I am not sure myself. That carb looks good. The points on those distributors corrode quickly but are easy to set. Also check the resistor on the firewall. If that Is bad It won't start. If you file the points good you may get some spark then she will run. The cap looks weathered so I am betting both the cap and points need cleaning. Man I wish I were there to help you both. Dang nice video guys.
@carlmasnec
@carlmasnec 2 ай бұрын
The vacuum is for the windshield wipers there is a motor that is powered and the truck is around 1946.
@mamma7119
@mamma7119 Жыл бұрын
If you are looking for top dead center the easiest way is to pop number one plug out and put your finger over the plug hole and turn the engine over till it pops your finger off and line the timing marks up and see where the distributor cap is pointing compared to the plug and wire just trying to help but I'm not a mechanic
@aussie571detectingnoverlanding
@aussie571detectingnoverlanding Жыл бұрын
The fuel coming out of throttle body is because the fuel mixture screw is missing by the looks of it, check spark by removing No.1 sparkplug and leaving connected to lead, turn engine over to see if there is a spark across plug gap!
@FloydHayesjr
@FloydHayesjr Жыл бұрын
You're exactly right hank
@ralphriddle8864
@ralphriddle8864 Жыл бұрын
Good job and God bless yall
@patamos7019
@patamos7019 Жыл бұрын
Need to pull the plugs to check condition and check for spark. Check to see if there's power to the coil Check points for gap, condition and spark.
@patamos7019
@patamos7019 Жыл бұрын
If you had spark, it should have fired off on your super juice.
@patamos7019
@patamos7019 Жыл бұрын
Start at the coil with switch on. Ground your voltmeter to the engine and put your red lead on the positive side of the coil to see if you have 12 volts. Then put your red lead on the negative side of the coil to see if you have power from the coil to the points. Next step, get one of Gina's emery boards and clean the corrosion off the points. If you have power going in AND out of the coil, the coil is good. It might be possible you need a set of points and condenser if cleaning doesn't work and the coil has power. If you clean the points and you're able to get spark at the points by cranking it over or even flicking them open and shut manually, then you should have fire at the plugs. But since the carb is flooding, make sure you disconnect the power to the fuel pump before checking for spark while cranking it over without a plug in
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