WILL IT SURVIVE A 130 MILE TRIP HOME? LSX Swapped 30yr Old Italian Yacht!

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B is for Build

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8 ай бұрын

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@dannyv2335
@dannyv2335 8 ай бұрын
Isn’t your hull designed to plane? I’d think you’d get better mileage at cruise on plane then you would just plowing water.
@valefur72
@valefur72 8 ай бұрын
The boat is made for fast on plane navigation with the original Cummins engines. By me, the boat asset is compromised by those light and fragile gas engines. The bow is constantly too low. The boat needs to be loaded in some way at the stern and this will eliminate the advantage of the gas engines low weight. By the way, I'm pretty sure that Chris will brilliantly resolve any problems.
@keithadoodle
@keithadoodle 8 ай бұрын
@@valefur72 Imagine how stuck he would have been with those heavy engines though... much better content for sure though.
@rbrood267
@rbrood267 8 ай бұрын
@@valefur72that might be the issue yes.
@valefur72
@valefur72 8 ай бұрын
@@keithadoodle not stuck for sure. Making a similar boat in Italy, also 30 years ago, with gas engines, was out of discussion, because of the fuel efficiency and reliability. It's a 43 feet Riva, not a 30 feet Bayliner.
@togrant9257mm
@togrant9257mm 8 ай бұрын
Most definitely, the less boat in the water the better, mileage/speed ect.
@DavesBoat
@DavesBoat 8 ай бұрын
thats a planing hull its at its most efficient when its out of the water. the diesel engines would have been tuned so that they were at their most efficient at a high teen / low 20 knot cruising speed most probably. where the hull is out of the water as much as possible so under least resistance.
@rasmuscustom
@rasmuscustom 8 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better, probably with a worse Northern European accent but not better
@realVertiqo
@realVertiqo 8 ай бұрын
cant wait for a new series where they swap to diesel engines!
@DavesBoat
@DavesBoat 8 ай бұрын
@@realVertiqo the lsx's will probably be ok (although not my choice) there's plenty of v8 boats around but the problem is they aren't tuned right they need to be tuned to be efficient in the hulls correct working range. all engines in boats diesel and petrol will drink fuel like crazy when outside of a quite narrow working window. planning hulls usually have 2 efficient spots, tick over and fully planing. the diesels would have been tuned to be in that upper window when the boost was built or fully off boost. na/petrols are just generally horrible unless you like going really really fast and don't care about cost, in which case crack on .
@realVertiqo
@realVertiqo 8 ай бұрын
@@DavesBoat couldnt have said it better i would only add that i think diesel engines are just "more reliable", very hard to kill in comparison. But yes the engines will be okay just very thirsty even when correctly tuned. (again in comparison)
@andrewpickering5413
@andrewpickering5413 8 ай бұрын
The engines in boats of this size and hull design are almost always diesels due to torque curve, reliability, fuel burn and longevity. Those gas engines are going to work so hard to turn the props, which need to be changed because they’re not matched to the new engines
@dolamyte
@dolamyte 8 ай бұрын
The real question is how long has that marina been double dipping and subletting your slip for knowing your boat was away. Pretty sure legally, depending on the contract, you’d be entitled to any money they collected plus fees.
@Sergeantgrunt
@Sergeantgrunt 8 ай бұрын
If it was me, I'd talk to the other boat owners next to your slip and see how long that has been filled. Then go to the marina guy and demand a refund. Cause you know if it was the marina that allowed the parking, they were charging DOUBLE for that spot. If it was just some ass that parked there because he always sees it empty, you might have a civil lawsuit in an attempt to collect some mooring fees. Not the best of situations but it's something.
@seanwolfe8046
@seanwolfe8046 8 ай бұрын
I work at a marina and this happens all the time. The slip isn't "yours" it's still the marinas, and if you are not occupying the well they have the right to transient the slip out. I guarantee its in his contract he signed. Ofcourse if you notify the marina of your return, they will take measures to clear the slip. I'm sure he didn't take this step considering he didn't bring a handle held spotlight in case nightfall hit on his journey.
@milanasanovic5859
@milanasanovic5859 8 ай бұрын
that is some bullshit excuse no way that is legal unless agreed upon upfront which then doesn't make reserved slip yours in the first place
@cheapme1850
@cheapme1850 8 ай бұрын
@@milanasanovic5859 Like mentioned by someone above who actually knows about boating and works at a marina, this is a common situation, and I bet there's a provision in the rental agreement that allows this if the well renter (note - "renter" doesn't make you it's "owner") has been absent for an extended period of time. As far as a lawsuit, good luck going to court trying to get essentially one day's inconvenience for not being able to use the slip. Trying to be nice about it, but this is a situation where an inexperienced boater doesn't follow normal practices - all it would have taken is for a quick call to the marina before returning after a long absence, before setting off on this trip.
@hughjarse4627
@hughjarse4627 8 ай бұрын
Good luck with that
@timmycoleiro2819
@timmycoleiro2819 8 ай бұрын
Rivas hulls are designed to plane. A good crusing speed would be around 23 knots(about 26mph) as at 10mph the boat is pushing the water rather than getting on it. Also i suggest instaling a pair of RACOR filters.
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
EXACTLY CORRECT !!
@meofnz2320
@meofnz2320 8 ай бұрын
Exactly incorrect.
@shastrigibbons637
@shastrigibbons637 8 ай бұрын
​@@meofnz2320why incorrect
@friedtomatoes4946
@friedtomatoes4946 8 ай бұрын
​@@shastrigibbons637because he said so obviously
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
@@friedtomatoes4946 I will answer why. Even a planing hull will almost always be more efficient when going at displacement speeds, as long as you keep lower than to cause too large formation of wake and bow waves. 10mph isnt out of the question with this hull length, The longer the hulls, the higher your displacement speed is. Seems pretty reasonable to expect 10mph to be better than planing speed in this case. 5-7 mph or so is for sure better for fuel economy in this boat than any planing speed, no ifs or buts about that. So low-ish planing speed is second best, thats true. 25 mph absolutely. But a nice, clean very low displacement speed will always beat it for fuel efficiency, even with a planing type hull.
@interactivefish
@interactivefish 8 ай бұрын
You might want to consider getting your navigations lights fixed before you go out at night again! That is very sketchy. I understand that you are learning but you need to get your prep on point and get the lights, sonar and radar dialed.
@hudsonkline
@hudsonkline 8 ай бұрын
just stupid, stupid mistakes all around, there really needs to be a license for operators of a boat this size
@Avetho
@Avetho 8 ай бұрын
And the mechanical compass.
@aboveitall9600
@aboveitall9600 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one that noticed. He could care less about other people not seeing him. It was all about ME ME ME. Very dangerous.
@xkavarsmith9322
@xkavarsmith9322 8 ай бұрын
And life vests! Life vests for days for Chris and especially Oscar and Chelsea, they're irreplaceable. 😅❤
@cheapme1850
@cheapme1850 8 ай бұрын
@@xkavarsmith9322 Just this past week, three guys on a nearby small lake thought it would be cool to take a pontoon boat out to go for a swim during a storm, at midnight, without PFDs. Apparently they all jumped off the boat, forgot the boat was still in drive and the boat was gone. Two made it, one was found several days later in 30 feet of water. At best, the furthest distance from shore is a couple hundred yards. Everyone is all in for fun and games...until something goes terribly wrong.
@jp1seattle
@jp1seattle 8 ай бұрын
Definitely fix your running lights and get some paper charts. I’m sure the boat spotting you was letting you know they didn’t see any running lights. Things can turn bad on the water quickly if you’re not prepared. Good series though and looking forward to see what’s next.
@ipwnchromejailbreak
@ipwnchromejailbreak 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I love the idea for B is for Boat but as bridge watchkeeper this whole thing just makes me cringe. The LSXs in clearly an improper application, the disregard for redundancy (put the goddam compass back in), the lack of navigational safety. This was not well thought out from a safety standpoint and it could get people hurt.
@jonblair5470
@jonblair5470 8 ай бұрын
You’d be more fuel efficient if you get on plane. Which requires you to go faster, the bow will lift then lower by itself. And you can use the trim tabs to balance and level you out
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
Maybe, hard to tell for sure from the video. However, 7 mph or so would be most efficient for sure.
@Typicalpnwguy
@Typicalpnwguy 8 ай бұрын
Things learned: 1) Yes, you can LS swap your yacht 2) Don't let Chris navigate 3) Let Oscar navigate 😆
@mycosys
@mycosys 8 ай бұрын
4)if Oscar looks scared, you probably should be too
@TheM750
@TheM750 8 ай бұрын
1b) But you shouldn't.
@cbarr0288
@cbarr0288 8 ай бұрын
A) make sure you always bring an Oscar
@jarodsimmons2542
@jarodsimmons2542 8 ай бұрын
You should probably put marine fuel filter/separators on. The dont get clogged with sediment as easily because it settles at the bottom of the bowl. As, water separation doesn't hurt. Not uncommon to get water in fuel.
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
EXACTLY CORRECT
@rcsmith8402
@rcsmith8402 8 ай бұрын
Ironically, from the way you described it, you put the speed at the least fuel efficient speed... generally, fuel efficiency is the same between boats and cars with the best is efficiency is with slow speeds. But there is one difference. The plane. Boats get the worst fuel efficiency just below plane, and the best just above. So the slow vs fast is split between two group, and the separator is the plane.
@cageordie
@cageordie 8 ай бұрын
Teah, below the hump. Need to be slow of on the plane, not at hump speed, just building waves.
@meofnz2320
@meofnz2320 8 ай бұрын
Except you’re wrong.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn't that be at a higher RPM, and not much of a higher speed? Even with less drag overall, I don't think it would be much better
@silvermanrol
@silvermanrol 8 ай бұрын
​@@jwalster9412it would be a much higher speed...
@rcsmith8402
@rcsmith8402 8 ай бұрын
@jwalster9412 once the boat gets to plane, then the thrust generated by the prop has much less to push against, which then creates more speed with in a relatively close RPM range. The once you are at plane, you have overcome the water resistance as much as the boat is able to, and you should still not be going fast enough for the air to have as much of an impact like cars have to deal with at higher speeds.
@Garage533Ohio
@Garage533Ohio 8 ай бұрын
Man talk about commitment😅 3 year journey from Diesel, to blown, to stranded, to lsx swapped, to fixed and then all the way back home and you actually documented all of it really well too. Not to mention all the money and time spent like its amazing you guys accomplished it and filmed it all to show us. So shout out to you guys, it really makes all these other KZbin builds and projects that people don't finish or document most of look bad 😅😅
@PavelKefurt
@PavelKefurt 8 ай бұрын
I'm very curious what you will find out about the boat that was parked in your spot. Please let us know in the next episode ;)
@hogwild5844
@hogwild5844 8 ай бұрын
Another great video. Dont skimp on the videos of the continuing work on the boat. Odd as it may seem a lot of us really enjoy seeing it come together.
@lykofff
@lykofff 8 ай бұрын
@@DM-Chris_Build солидарен !
@MillersPlanet79
@MillersPlanet79 8 ай бұрын
It's fun to watch you make all the mistakes we all made when we got our first boat. One thought: if your concerned about the cost of fuel, you probably don't want a boat
@TryHarderPlease
@TryHarderPlease 8 ай бұрын
Bigggggg facts
@buddy1155
@buddy1155 8 ай бұрын
Did you ever put gas in an old diesel tank?
@jimbooth324
@jimbooth324 8 ай бұрын
​@buddy1155 - that doesn't sound like a smart idea. Probably caused a lot of the clogging of thr filter.
@billydrury9399
@billydrury9399 8 ай бұрын
thats why boat stands for "bring out another thousand"
@AdderoYuu
@AdderoYuu 8 ай бұрын
Specially not a dual LSX boat. Yikes.
@robh3267
@robh3267 8 ай бұрын
Let us know how the dock situation goes, I would say they owe you some free dock time at the very least, this has been a challenging project and you guys have conquered the hard part, addressing the luxury part will be a lot of fun, definitely a lot less stressful, although it's not cheap you might want to consider new props that are better suited for your current power train as they will help with fuel efficiency and over all performance, outstanding job on this whole project.
@MadmanJnr
@MadmanJnr 8 ай бұрын
Begs the question of how long has the Marina been double dipping or is it just a random parking there for free? I'm also pretty interested to find out the result
@Sumalumadingdong
@Sumalumadingdong 8 ай бұрын
Typically marinas will rent out a slip of a boat that’s out on the water for long periods during the time your gone your rate for renting the slip should be significantly cheaper but not all marinas are created equal and there’s definitely some sleazy ones out there awesome to see the build coming together sail on brother
@lawnmowerman25
@lawnmowerman25 8 ай бұрын
​@@SumalumadingdongExactly. It's usually in your contract that they are allowed to rent it out. You really don't own much when you're under the marina's control.
@gavinrichardson3918
@gavinrichardson3918 8 ай бұрын
You probably find someone just saw an empty spot and parked there and because Chris is paying for it the marina have never noticed
@mycosys
@mycosys 8 ай бұрын
@@MadmanJnr google maps?
@edfrawley4356
@edfrawley4356 8 ай бұрын
Gonna join the chorus here. You are much more efficient on plane than you are plowing water. Your best cruise will NOT be at top speed but once on the water instead of IN the water find where your engines/props work best. Also this was mentioned early on in your boat adventure but you really should have a depth finder and a MARINE GPS. Have fun with the Riva and be safe on the water.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
Was his speed above the threshold where plane would have been better? Maybe, its not super easy to tell from the video. Of course, going 7mph or so would have been better for sure.
@jimmyboe25
@jimmyboe25 8 ай бұрын
Honestly hard to watch 😂
@Arcella1981
@Arcella1981 8 ай бұрын
I was always told that the more the boat is out of the water the more efficient it is, and that is why some of the big boats when they really get moving basically just a little bit of the boat is actually in the water?
@dmacpher
@dmacpher 8 ай бұрын
Depends on the hull type. But he would be most efficient on the plane for this boat.
@Torch4ya
@Torch4ya 8 ай бұрын
Ha. Nothing will be more economical than a 1550 RPM cruise.
@oct2274
@oct2274 8 ай бұрын
You definitely have to be on plane on a boat like that. every boat is different, but my guess that boat is most efficient between 20-25 mph
@TacohMann
@TacohMann 8 ай бұрын
@@Torch4ya If riding on the plane is 2x the fuel/min but > 2x the speed it would be more economical.
@RebuildAnything
@RebuildAnything 8 ай бұрын
Yes your right, but most think going slower saves gas, but go faster to reduce drag is optimal. 3500 rpm is what I normally run and so does my buddy.
@tomedward128
@tomedward128 8 ай бұрын
Unless you are idling along and sightseeing, stay in the marked sea channels. Also many times the shallowest water can be next to the channels due to dredging and the bottom soil dropped at the outer edges of the channel.
@tubbycake8751
@tubbycake8751 8 ай бұрын
Your new to boating so ill let alot alip but you are going to learn alot hard and fast about all your mistakes that weve all learned the same way. My best advice listen to the comment section and let us guide you in your journey. Were not all trying to be dicks. Never the less great channel, keep it going.
@ericdoe2318
@ericdoe2318 8 ай бұрын
9:45 I believe when a plain hull plains it’s at its most efficient.. if it is a displacement hull then you’ve got the right thoughts..
@jasongrinnell1986
@jasongrinnell1986 8 ай бұрын
He makes his money off of comments and views. I think he knows what he is doing.
@ericdoe2318
@ericdoe2318 8 ай бұрын
@@jasongrinnell1986I hope so because that a a silly thing to do. Only thing I can think of is he was breaking in the environs or some other reason. Because he wouldn’t waste his time like that
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
@@ericdoe2318 Every hull is most fuel efficient at low displacement speed, lets say 7 mph or so for this boat. Thats even the case for planing hulls.
@FangOfTruth
@FangOfTruth 8 ай бұрын
Definitely need to have some handheld spotlights and/or floodlights.
@xkavarsmith9322
@xkavarsmith9322 8 ай бұрын
Both! This made me incredibly nervous to watch, although it's awesome the cameras had night vision.
@kristopher2263
@kristopher2263 8 ай бұрын
22:13 I mean this in the most wholesome way possible, she’s adorable.
@josephgaydosh7300
@josephgaydosh7300 8 ай бұрын
You know since they park another boat in your spot I would definitely make sure you get some sort of compensation on the price.
@camasallison-bunnell6059
@camasallison-bunnell6059 8 ай бұрын
The shots of Oscar watching the big boats was so wholesome, I too love big boats. Congrats on the run home to PDX!
@AW-yv9sq
@AW-yv9sq 8 ай бұрын
Have a diver check your props and shafts. Something could be bent or damaged from running aground. Did you have Nav lights bc it did not look like it. Definitely do some learning bc things can go wrong fast on a boat. You have some big boats and difficult conditions so it would be cool for you to learn some things. Might motivate some others to do the same. Glad you got home! Fun to see you overcome all the problems too
@george6319
@george6319 8 ай бұрын
I saw some side lights
@tripprogers4814
@tripprogers4814 8 ай бұрын
This has been a super compelling series to watch. So much life happened during this project. Spokane Washington and THE GREAT PACIFIC NORTHWEST IS VERY PROUD OF YOU GUYS!
@tommyjenison9283
@tommyjenison9283 8 ай бұрын
B is for Beached 😂👍
@rhkavli
@rhkavli 8 ай бұрын
Lucky he didn't damage the propellers.
@BKHD8
@BKHD8 8 ай бұрын
I love this series because I get to experience all the headache of owning a boat without spending the money. I wanted a boat but the more research I did the less I wanted one. The best days are apparently “The day you buy and the day you sell” 😂
@nicholasrobinson41
@nicholasrobinson41 8 ай бұрын
As someone actively in the CG yes we are in the river. Also, use your radio to make a call out for help. The most we would do would be putting out a broadcast for you initially.
@matthewsmall6225
@matthewsmall6225 8 ай бұрын
Things you need: 1) vhf radio 2) Seatow/BoatUS (like AAA for boats) 3) Compass 4) Paper charts 5) Nav lights You’re being really unsafe not just for yourself, but other boaters. I like the series, not the unnecessary risks.
@garageflex_axa
@garageflex_axa 8 ай бұрын
I would love to see a top speed run with this LSX engines in the boat😢
@ryanm7475
@ryanm7475 8 ай бұрын
Been following for four years and just wanted to congratulate you and everyone that has worked on bringing the boat back to life!
@cageordie
@cageordie 8 ай бұрын
Look at marine fuel filters, two things you will notice, they are big and they include water separators.
@donsmanufactory
@donsmanufactory 8 ай бұрын
FYI, the Columbia experiences tides all the way to Portland. Generally less that a foot at PDX, 2 ~ 4 feet at St Helens. Those Islands and channels change constantly, you don't know til you get there. There's a reason boats tend to stay in the channel.
@richie2dicks468
@richie2dicks468 8 ай бұрын
For best fuel efficiency you need to get the boat on plain. This gets the most of the boat out of the water creating less drag and better efficiency.
@MrGtbehr07
@MrGtbehr07 8 ай бұрын
Nope the best fuel efficiency is trawling speed around 6-11 mph depending on hull design. Hower he has planing hull boat so he has 2 best efficiencies, but the trawling speed will always outperform planing in MPG.
@hashiru86
@hashiru86 8 ай бұрын
what do you mean by "plain"?! ;)
@brandonvega2972
@brandonvega2972 8 ай бұрын
This is correct, trolling speed is not the most efficient. That boat is meant to be on plane. You will get a better fuel flow rate because you’re working at a lower RPM but your MPG would suffer. On plane is def the way to go. Speaking from a boat owners perspective
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 5 ай бұрын
Wrong
@mitchgordon8199
@mitchgordon8199 8 ай бұрын
I think the reason I subbed to your channel so long ago when you became a youtuber is that ya kinda make decisions on the fly when stuff happens. Thanks for all the dedication. I have been a fan since the lotus build.
@geniferteal4178
@geniferteal4178 8 ай бұрын
Decisions on the fly? There should be plenty in these episodes.
@TheCrazySquirell
@TheCrazySquirell 8 ай бұрын
No compass, no backup charts, risking a night passage with a boat that isn't 100% sorted. So reckless. Did you even have working navigation lights? Lucky weather was so good. OH AND HE RAN AGROUND!? Fuck me...
@cheapme1850
@cheapme1850 8 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm just amazed at folks thinking this was cool.
@calvinh.8882
@calvinh.8882 8 ай бұрын
Some people around there should pitch in and get a bunch of those cheap little solar lights like some people put down the side of walkways and stick one on each of those abandoned boats so that everyone will know where they are after dark.
@DarrenMartin-bw8zi
@DarrenMartin-bw8zi 8 ай бұрын
Or he should just get proper running lights so he can safely navigate in the dark... Just sayin. He will... eventually. For safety's sake.
@genesmith4642
@genesmith4642 8 ай бұрын
Fabricater meets boat. Boat meets bottom of the river. Those are some great engines if you can get them more or less trouble free. Excited to see what's next for the boat. And B is for Build will come thru!
@Harrybollox
@Harrybollox 8 ай бұрын
Follow your track on the Garmin to retrace course in reverse, as long as tide not lower you can’t go wrong (next time 😁)
@christianrodel6829
@christianrodel6829 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it make sense to use the trim for higher speeds? That brings the front of the boat back down a bit and you should be significantly faster and more economical?
@pauledwards6446
@pauledwards6446 8 ай бұрын
No
@simonbern
@simonbern 8 ай бұрын
Slow steaming is the practice of operating transoceanic cargo ships, especially container ships, at significantly less than their maximum speed.[1] In 2010, an analyst at the National Ports and Waterways Institute stated that nearly all global shipping lines were using slow steaming to save money on fuel.[2][3]
@Real_PK
@Real_PK 8 ай бұрын
The boat has inboards so there's no trim like an outboard or I/O. Using the trim tabs to push the bow down is possible, however that also increases drag.
@christianrodel6829
@christianrodel6829 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information. It's interesting to know in any case. @simonbern9483
@valefur72
@valefur72 8 ай бұрын
This boat has no trim.. probably has the flaps, but the new engines installed are too light and the boat asset is compromised. The best thing to do, on this boat , was to rebuild the two original and almost indestructible Cummins diesel...
@laurencewarden7600
@laurencewarden7600 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on getting the boat home! I was a naysayer in the beginning, and still think LS engines in a boat of this size is a backwards step. It did make for good content and they did a pretty decent job on it, but something as interesting, or more so would be an LMM Duramax swap-in. Gas engines in boats that size are looked down upon in the boating community. Only the bottom of the barrel manufactures make (or made) gas engines in boats over 30', think Carver, Maxum, Sea Ray, etc. A Duramax swapped Riva would be cool. Still, this came out way better than I thought it would.
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 5 ай бұрын
Wr I ng gas beter buger 30 feet
@austinwinchester
@austinwinchester 8 ай бұрын
19:10 love the chris fix tag on the sparco backpack, you guys are TOO CUTE!!!
@Scandal929
@Scandal929 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing us along on the trip? Also let us know how the marina thing works out.
@shanemcdonald4956
@shanemcdonald4956 8 ай бұрын
I am sure you will have a lot of problems with that diesel sludge.That gas is slowly breaking it down.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 8 ай бұрын
The engines will hiccup a tiny bit and they will Panic, then it will be fine once out of the system.
@AW-yv9sq
@AW-yv9sq 8 ай бұрын
We had a company clean ours when we boat our boat. Fuel had been in there for many years and was like jello. Tank was good just needed some love
@saxbychaplin1112
@saxbychaplin1112 8 ай бұрын
Exactly what i just told him, Hire a professional co. to come and properly clean those tanks out, If not, Going to be an ongoing problem with them!!
@leovin00
@leovin00 8 ай бұрын
Stoked that it's working! I have no idea why but the boat series is among my favorite on this channel. Hope to see more coming!
@robfromtoledo9514
@robfromtoledo9514 8 ай бұрын
Great episode. I deal with the stress of shallow water here on Lake Erie. You can be out in the middle of the lake and run aground. Be thankful you didnt damage your props. You may want to take a peek just in case.
@kaskl5403
@kaskl5403 8 ай бұрын
The guy in your berth has probably been in your spot for awhile.
@JedemPoKucama
@JedemPoKucama 8 ай бұрын
If you wanna be fuel efficient with that hull keep it around 7-8kts if not planing...you're just plowing at 10-11, and anything under 17-18
@WJsLifeonaBoat
@WJsLifeonaBoat 8 ай бұрын
Lots of things here, hopefully this will help y'all out as I've read so many incorrect comments. 1. The most efficient speed is hull speed, which is a calculation and the formula is 1.34*sqrt(waterline length). That will give you your speed in knots. 2. Plowing at probably 8-10 knots like what you were doing is probably the worst. Just over the hump and on plane is the next best thing aside from hull speed. 3. Buy a Duplex RACOR filter setup for each engine. That black mess on the filter is likely algae on the tank walls from the diesel. 4. Check out "Flo-Scan" for fuel consumption measurements.
@andrewpickering5413
@andrewpickering5413 8 ай бұрын
1 - you need to be on plane to get the best economy, the old diesels would have been running at around 2000ish rpm to be at cruising speed, this is unlikely to be the same with the new LS engine’s due to power and more importantly torque curve, some experimenting with RPM’s and prop pitch required. 2 - if you beached, you need to check your props for damage, although I should think the props need to be replaced as per point 1 so that you have props matched to the new characteristics of the boat with those gasoline engines. Also - GET A DEPTH FINDER 3 - Your fuel problem is probably because the gasoline is effectively cleaning out all the diesel gunk from the old fuel tank, the lines could also be deteriorating based on the age of the boat. This is likely to be a problem for a short period of time. I would personally replace all the fuel lines as a safety precaution as they are old.
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
you need to install RACOR fuel filters and should work best believe me any marine store will have them
@AwDaleYeah
@AwDaleYeah 8 ай бұрын
Also pressure washer stores. We use racor filters on the burners for hot water units.
@Grantly
@Grantly 8 ай бұрын
​@@AwDaleYeahinteresting.
@tims1792
@tims1792 8 ай бұрын
I'd love to see more boat content.
@maxpeck6872
@maxpeck6872 8 ай бұрын
@16:48 oscar pondering how many lsx engines it takes to run one of those cargo ships 😂
@kylejohnson779
@kylejohnson779 8 ай бұрын
In boating you typically measure usage in hours rather than miles. It’s a lot more difficult to track distance on a boat so most maintenance and fuel usage is measured by time rather than distance
@Chickendude1
@Chickendude1 8 ай бұрын
bro you need someone who actually has driven a few boats to hop in there and show you how its done, you gotta get on plane or your wasting tons of gas, marine motors are built to a higher standard than car motors theyre made to stay at decently high, steady rpm for a long time
@PatricCTT
@PatricCTT 8 ай бұрын
Awesome project and must give a shout out to your determination - kudos!
@aaronredbaron
@aaronredbaron 8 ай бұрын
When I crossed the Astoria bridge this morning there was a boat stuck on the tidal flats, and I have to admit I took a close look to see if it was you!
@TheNumber40Two
@TheNumber40Two 8 ай бұрын
From one boat owner to another, get yourself a set of NMEA200 fuel flow sensors and hook them into the GARMIN. Tells you exactly how much fuel you're using, along with your GPS MPG. It is really useful for finding out the most efficient rpms to run at.
@VR6NAVYVW
@VR6NAVYVW 8 ай бұрын
you should pickup a handheld spotlight for the boat.
@gmugrumbach
@gmugrumbach 8 ай бұрын
The episode we've all been waiting for 🙂 Awesome job to the whole crew and glad to see her back in her home port!
@jasonargonaut9112
@jasonargonaut9112 8 ай бұрын
1. Fuel consumption - the (old) rule of thumb for gas engines in boating is 0.29 liter per hp per hour. And yes, there are (or at least existed in the past) boat manufacturers that used gas engines for the type of boat you have because the gas engines are cheaper. 2. Fuel efficiency - displacement hulls are most efficient at slow displacement speeds, planing hulls are most efficient at slow planing speeds. IFF engine, gear box and prop are correctly sized. 3. It's a long way until you get a reliable long lasting setup. For sure content for many episodes ;)
@SmokinJoe
@SmokinJoe 8 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest, when you first started posting about this project I wasn’t a huge fan of it. But it’s become one of my favorite build series you guys have done 🛥️
@tomkatdj
@tomkatdj 8 ай бұрын
Two options for speed……hull speed, look behind you, if there’s a hole or a lot of wash you’re too fast, or planing, again not too much wash, and as slow as you can keep the hull out of the water, those will typically be the most efficient.
@thejoeboo79
@thejoeboo79 8 ай бұрын
Please keep us posted on the dock situation 🙏
@christophers.4007
@christophers.4007 8 ай бұрын
he should cut the lines and let that boat float away.
@djfast3
@djfast3 8 ай бұрын
some marinas have it written into your lease that if you're not using your slip they can rent it out I know the local one where I live does that.
@shellback2002
@shellback2002 8 ай бұрын
I’d highly recommend installing a vacuum gauge between the fuel pump and filter as a way of monitoring filter condition. I’m not familiar with your electronic dash but you might be able to add the vacuum (fuel filter) function to the dash.
@Works2Shoot
@Works2Shoot 8 ай бұрын
I couldn’t imagine removing efficient diesel engines, replacing them with badass 1500hp 100% ‘Murica Texas Speed V8s, and then going 11mph lol.
@lonpearson2134
@lonpearson2134 8 ай бұрын
Good job getting it home safely. A Faruno radar should be in the list, along with a channel 16 constant monitor as a redundant radio.
@StanGoto
@StanGoto 8 ай бұрын
Loving the boat content!
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
should consider having fuel tanks flushed and clean fuel remote services provide this
@charlescoates6661
@charlescoates6661 8 ай бұрын
I've been watching your progress, however I did not see any changes to your propellers. If those are the original props, they are not correct for the LSs. But you can easily determine which way to go with Dia and Pitch by running WOT. But you are going to have to get those EFIs right first. (Either 1" of diameter or 1" in Pitch will move your RPMs approx 400)
@kef103
@kef103 8 ай бұрын
One more possibility for your performance issue Could be that the new engines are much less weight. Causing the boat to be front heavy And you’re getting massive amounts of propeller cavitation. This Causes the water to boil, due to low pressure and bubbles form on the surface of the propeller.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
Cavitation has other causes, mostly. I doubt its an issue here. I think you might be thinking of ventilation in a sort of way?
@Doogie1954
@Doogie1954 8 ай бұрын
In the future you should get charts for the waters you wish to navigate, it seems everyone learns the same way by getting caught on a sand bar.
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
get updated local charts electronic and paper both!
@T3XANGINGER
@T3XANGINGER 8 ай бұрын
Paper chats are lame
@charlescoates6661
@charlescoates6661 8 ай бұрын
Until you don't have a working GPS. @@T3XANGINGER
@Doogie1954
@Doogie1954 8 ай бұрын
So is waiting for the tide@@T3XANGINGER
@ChadPowell02
@ChadPowell02 8 ай бұрын
Glad you made it back home! I am so bummed that you drove it 130 miles and didn't do a top speed run! Also I'm in the "should have ran it on plane" boat but I'm definitely not sure where your best mpg is.
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 5 ай бұрын
13 mph. Slow plane sooedd 10 hiurs
@bustersgarage
@bustersgarage 8 ай бұрын
There's several solutions to running aground. We rented a boat in Florida and the first weekend of meeting my girlfriend's (now wife) family, we take a rental boat out.. I am a licensed operator, but after we get past the high obstacle area into more free waters, a novice operator finds some VERY shallow water. I immediately power down the engines and increase the pitch so we can keep fresh water going through the outboards, rather than the muck they found at first. Once I was happy the engines had clear water jackets, I shut them down and asked nearly everyone to get in the water (it was only knee deep, so low enough risk) and rocked the boat a bit to relieve the vacuum and it raised just high enough we could give it a shove it to a deeper water. I was told "The future son-in-law saved the boat and deposit on the engines." Haha
@craigleemehan
@craigleemehan 8 ай бұрын
If you are going to continue boating, may I suggest taking the Coast Guard Auxiliary boating class.
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
you MUST HAVE TANKS FLUSHED all kinds of crud is in there
@Ironraven001
@Ironraven001 8 ай бұрын
I gallon a minute at 60 mph translates to 1 gallon per mile... which is your same fuel consumption you're estimating at 11 mph. Right? I'm fairly certain boats are more efficient when on plane, less friction because less of the boat is in the water, but I'm not a yacht guy.
@markcoleman8568
@markcoleman8568 8 ай бұрын
You’re right!
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
@@markcoleman8568 Not necessarily, low displacement speed is better.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
Every hull is most fuel efficient at low displacement speed, lets say 7 mph or so for this boat. Thats even the case for planing hulls. His math you are quoting was quickly axed together as an example and is wrong.
@markcoleman8568
@markcoleman8568 8 ай бұрын
@@GoldenCroc sorry can’t agree with you…
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
@@markcoleman8568 Well, you dont have to, thats fine. I am right though, and all avalible test data of all boats as well as fundamental physics agree. Check it out, if you want to and have the time. You can start with test data of fuel consumption for different boats, it can easily be found on youtube or via searching internet. Cheers mate.
@MadmanJnr
@MadmanJnr 8 ай бұрын
I'm really enjoying the change of pace with the B is for Boat series
@colinbolton5415
@colinbolton5415 8 ай бұрын
Hi Chris, your boat has a planning hull, when she is running as a displacement vessel (i.e. not planning) the engines are going to be working hard. When you get her upon the plane you should find that you are able to back off the throttle, whilst maintaining being on the plane, which will be the most efficient way of running.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
Only the case if you get too high in the displacment speed regimen. Lower displacement speed, for example 7 mph is for sure more efficient than any planing speed with this boat.
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 5 ай бұрын
Wrong
@ericbirch4156
@ericbirch4156 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the re-engining and successful return to home port! Every Christmas / New Years our family heads from Portland to the Oregon coast and we have checked in on the yacht while it was in the Astoria dry dock for the last 3 trips. Thanks for the project perseverence! You and the team are an inspiration and encouragement! 🙂
@jaydoe692
@jaydoe692 8 ай бұрын
Least of worries but id ask dude with boat how long hes been there n if was aloud... if you paid for that spot you have a pretty good case to get some funds back lol
@builtbybo22
@builtbybo22 8 ай бұрын
That swap was a HUGE undertaking, Great job!!! Now you can start to enjoy the boat again. I would of un tied the other boat in your spot and Let it float away! 🤬 LOL #BuiltByBo
@ryanmartie1244
@ryanmartie1244 8 ай бұрын
The gas bill would make me feint and drown in the water 😂. Glad you're enjoying the boat...it bas been a long time coming and tons of work. Thanks Chris, Oscar and the rest of the team for making these vids possible. I really enjoy them.
@VanskyAlleria
@VanskyAlleria 8 ай бұрын
I am not a boater, but am curious if it would be worth having two filters per engine so you can turn a valve to go to the secondary filter, allowing you to clean out the primary while still moving?
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
GREAT IDEA I DID THAT ON MY BOAT AND IT WORKED JUST FINE
@jaredwalker3152
@jaredwalker3152 8 ай бұрын
i was thinking the same thing, have some parallel fuel filters with isolation valves so you can just hot swap and clean one
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
Standard fitment on many large personal yachts, and not just for fuel filters.
@andrewfalenski6583
@andrewfalenski6583 8 ай бұрын
The filter problem isn’t the tank, it is the fuel line breaking down internally.
@DustinHasVideos
@DustinHasVideos 8 ай бұрын
Can’t be sure it isn’t tank, but hose is my thought since once is horrific and one is perfect
@jean-pierredeclemy7032
@jean-pierredeclemy7032 8 ай бұрын
Was any of the original hose used, it may not be ethanol compatible?
@obsessedracing7843
@obsessedracing7843 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@davemiller262
@davemiller262 8 ай бұрын
​@@jean-pierredeclemy7032marina gas is normally ethanol free
@tedgerstenslager2949
@tedgerstenslager2949 8 ай бұрын
Old diesel fuel. Tanks need to be cleaned. They do it with diesel tanks, fuel polishing.
@jimfilmont3833
@jimfilmont3833 8 ай бұрын
Can I get an Amen on pulling the fenders? Well done!
@mjc8248
@mjc8248 8 ай бұрын
Nice. It's cool to see you figuring out what you need to work on. You didn't wreck or sink, so I call it a win. I'd still rather see you running diesel engines, but I think it'll all come together.
@mayaswelltryit...8327
@mayaswelltryit...8327 8 ай бұрын
I hate water and normally have 0 interest in boats. That being said, your boat content is some of my favourite that you do. Glad to see her out doing boat things. You should look into buying an enclosed life boat. I think a lot of us would enjoy watching you convert it to a little house boat.
@vadim7590
@vadim7590 8 ай бұрын
Never drink that stuff, you'll regret it 🤣
@iTzHuGzz
@iTzHuGzz 8 ай бұрын
10:43 Seems like you have some sort of exhaust leak, or steam leak from the exhaust. It might be the water cooled exhaust manifold is not getting cooled enough. This could be quickly checked with a thermal camera.
@gregoryh4601
@gregoryh4601 8 ай бұрын
Sir you think they should get a bigger Pump so it Pumps More Gallons per Minutes ? Chris never Check water Temperature or use the Alarm that he can Set.
@iTzHuGzz
@iTzHuGzz 8 ай бұрын
@@gregoryh4601 That might be a solution, if the problem is indeed related to too high temperature of the exhaust manifold. Considering the starboard engine does not have this leak, and does not have white smoke at the water exhaust, it might be that the problem is simply a loose fitting of the exhaust hose to the manifold. For the longevity of the exhaust hose, temperatures cannot be too high. Checking the temperatures would therefore be very wise to do in this case. What i am a bit concerned of is that my 140 hp VP tamd31b has a larger exhaust manifold than this 750hp pr engine setup. As you say, if the problem is too high temperatures in the manifold, increasing water flow might be a solution. Having a more beefy manifold could perhaps also be beneficial.
@Oscarbifb
@Oscarbifb 8 ай бұрын
What you are seeing is the breathers from the engines. They normally go inside the catch cans but we wanted to see the amount of air and oil coming out when under load.
@iTzHuGzz
@iTzHuGzz 8 ай бұрын
@@Oscarbifb Aha! I see. Very understandable. Thanks for replying Oscar, and great to see that it is not due to a malfunction! :D Amazing seeing this project take life!
@mosjad0179
@mosjad0179 8 ай бұрын
This has been badass to watch yall do, couple of notes though as someone who works small boats and tugs for a living. Oil diapers (white ones) will be your bestfriend, that paired with some electrical tape will allow you to track any kind of leak very reliably. And bring extras of almost everything you can think of. It costs a pretty penny to do so. But the amount of times having extra filters, hoses, fittings, bilge pumps, wiring, etc... has saved my ass is unreal. Hope to keep seeing yall learn and enjoy your journey on the yacht project.
@austinjenkins5357
@austinjenkins5357 8 ай бұрын
So glad the boat is running and back home! Mega proud of you guys and love the boat content🎉 it was SO DARK though I was so nervous watching😂
@dannyviskocil1253
@dannyviskocil1253 8 ай бұрын
Is there something dead in the boat? The amount of flies is alarming
@mullvaden83
@mullvaden83 8 ай бұрын
There is a fridge full of rotten shit that they need to clean out.
@JoRyGu
@JoRyGu 8 ай бұрын
@@mullvaden83 That would have been priority number 1 for me. All those flies and they're just chilling with that. Gross.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 8 ай бұрын
@@JoRyGu Yeah my head spun a bit when I heard they had yet to do that.
@themekfrommars
@themekfrommars 8 ай бұрын
Navionics and an Ipad will pay dividends!
@dmacpher
@dmacpher 8 ай бұрын
This.
@marcoartini7480
@marcoartini7480 8 ай бұрын
Awesome work! Please keep sharing more boat contents!
@endorphinex
@endorphinex 8 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, a tip for the flies, this comes from personal experience : I run a fan towards my bed while I sleep & that stopped the mosquitoes from biting me. Maybe having little clip fans around the engine area will help the flies?!!
@cindy-tron
@cindy-tron 8 ай бұрын
Chris, your Garmin failing to direct you and the fact that you were almost stranded with just a cellphone is the clearest sign from whatever you believe in that you CANNOT rely just electronics when boating! I'm genuinely concerned for you and your crew.
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 5 ай бұрын
Wrong
@Twitch760
@Twitch760 8 ай бұрын
I think you are going to regret putting gas engines in the yacht. You should have gone with diesels turbo charged and gotten much better fuel efficiency. As another poster said faster is better for efficiency in a boat as the less boat in the water the better.
@johndoesen1718
@johndoesen1718 8 ай бұрын
Well, that depends of how much they expect to use the yacht. If they only take it out for some small trips once in a while, the gasoline engines is adequate, but if they are planning to do many and longer trips, then yes diesel engines would've been better.
@rogerhansen1314
@rogerhansen1314 8 ай бұрын
WELL SAID @@johndoesen1718
@THECASHVAN
@THECASHVAN 8 ай бұрын
Nice work! Thats a crazy adventure, what a cool place to cruse.
@terryfleming7084
@terryfleming7084 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know how it works in the northwestern coast, but here on the Gulf coast, you can get the Coast Guard to give your boat a safety inspection for free. They will check all your safety items, and tell you all the stuff that is required, but also give you ideas of stuff that will make it safer. My pontoon boat is on a trailer, so it was way easier. But the people doing my inspection was very helpful and suggested things that would make the boat safer on the water, but things that could and have make it more fun.
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