Will Kyler Murray Be TRADED By Arizona Cardinals Following Second-Half Collapse This Season?

[@CanyonMann]

First watch party with the PHNX team, rotten loss but great time chatting it up with Bo, Johnny, Damon and Max. Really appreciate all of your hard work to build community and fun. Well done!

[@gaussin1765]

I believe we hired the right GM/Head Coach in Ossenfort and Gannon.. But if they roll into next year magically believing Petzing will massively improve, then I’ll second guess all the progress we’ve made since Keim’s departure. ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results’.

[@tamera3328]

I don’t think JG is the coach of the future!! That team was 6-4 that’s on the coaches and KM too!! One more year I guess 😂

[@drkevincampbell]

They will keep Kyler, but remember the name Jackson Dart next May at the draft. This kid is a "gamer". Doesn't pout on the sideline. He is a fire ball LEADER.

[@Brian-fk8zr]

Dart has one of the very best rosters in college football but could not get Ole Miss into a TWELVE TEAM PLAYOFF. Let that sink in.

[@danielroberts6748]

Out of interest - Is he a Mormon?

[@citizenscapital2458]

@@drkevincampbell college kid. 5 year minimum investment in a rookie. NFL should just move the cardinals to another city.

[@charwilliams2875]

Cut your ties with Kyle Murray he isn't the long term quarterback in Arizona Cardinals

[@random-nz7dy]

They should trade him. I didn't expect the Cardinals to be contenders. This is 6 years in a row of Kyler Murray regressing down the stretch. Teams figure him out and he can't adjust. Too afraid of getting hit. Too many horrible throws at the worst moments. Ie Carolina interception And let's not act like there's no talent on the offensive side of the ball. They've got plenty of people. We have clearly seen the best we will see from Kyler Murray. I would trade him to a quarterback needy team, and call Minnesota and ask them what it would take to get JJ McCarthy.

[@YoungfitnessAZ1]

I couldn't have said it better. We know what we're getting with him. He's not willing to take risks, he's throwing on his backfoot, im over it.

[@Nowison9]

Which WR1 do we have? Whole offense has shown penalty after penalty? Whole WR room gets locked up. Who do we have on defense as far as corner, pass rush, d line? And the play calling from Drew? We as fans can predict the damn calls. Like I said before I hope they do get rid of Kyler and this fan base will see first hand that they will remain stagnant or worse in this ‘rebuild’ process.

[@cloudzundersky]

I’m amazed it took Petzing the whole season to give Marv slant routes. Now imagine him having to do in game adjustments. Dude sucks and should not be anywhere near this team.

[@citizenscapital2458]

Marv needs to consistently get open and get separation from his defender.

[@TheBigBird92]

Drew Petzing is incredibly dense. Marv didn't start running crossing routes, which he's statistically great at, until half way through the season when Kyler had to ask Marv what routes he likes to run. Great "coaching".

[@since1988bro]

Marvs separation metrics are excellent....you can check his numbers yourself....he also absolutely crushes man defense...they needed to open his route tree and get him higher percentage opportunities.... just look what Jax did with Brian Thomas Jr the second half of the SZN ( w/ Mac Jones lol)​@@citizenscapital2458

[@MarMoor-bf5uy]

Drew should be fired he sucks

[@ryancarley8491]

I don't have faith with year 3 being a pop year with what Monti has shown in fa, trade, and draft. I'll continue to suffer though as a Cardinals fan

[@cloudzundersky]

Totally agree

[@Seddysaid]

Our O line isn't good enough yet. We need better guards

[@skylork1990]

Take stats out of the equation. 5 years 1 playoff birth. Every year has been the same.

[@0justwatch0]

1- Inconsistency of throwing the ball 2- Errors 3- Not good under pressure

[@micnak3574]

When the Cards were at 6-4 going into the bye week, there were folks who insisted that Kyler should be in an MVP conversation along with Lamar and Allen. Then, the Cards lost 5 of the next 6 games. Now, there's a talk of "maybe Kyler should be traded." C'mon, folks. Kyler is an exciting player. Although he still throws interceptions in the most critical times, he should be given at least another full season with JG and Monti. I still believe in the JG-Monti regime.

[@Hooch-A-Colada]

Darnold is doing what they expected Cousins to do when they signed him.

[@brianpigati]

Conner is a crutch for Petzing... when conner took himself out of the game, the offense looked decent besides not punching it in. And i love kyler... yes he pisses me off more than duffing my 2nd golf shot after a beautiful drive. But j love him

[@tyfahlman]

Giants will take him

[@kenlira7740]

Could Drew Lock be next year’s Sam Darnold?

[@tommycog1]

😢

[@joshuacdebaca8979]

Us not finishing on final drives dates back to even last season

[@midwestaarron]

Way longer than that. 2020

[@rlaracue]

1-6 down the stretch is pretty easy to beat even with this backup QB class. Beggars cannot be choosers. Plus HCs will think they can do a Darnold. He was viewed as trash until MN got him. You are being myopic.

[@Johnnycash23_]

Tired of the weak finishes and catching L’s weekly late in the season. Warner we need ya #13

[@isaiah797]

A real qb would've changed that play to a run to make them use their last timeout

[@citizenscapital2458]

You mean A real qb like clay tune, dak prescott? Without Murray you are a scrub organization and a scrub fan.

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

​@@citizenscapital2458Murray sucks. The Cardinals WITH Murray are a scrub organization, you can't scare us into wanting to continue to suck

[@Zach_82]

@@TheHauntedKiwi buddy Murray’s one of the greatest qbs in franchise history. You haven’t been watching the cards to long if u think Murray’s what’s wrong with this organization

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

@Zach_82 So because he's better than Kevin Kolb, you want to make everything about him? Is that your bar for success?

[@Zach_82]

@@TheHauntedKiwi even average qbs dont grow on trees. We would know we’ve had maybe 4 above average qb seasons in the last 20 years outside of Kyler. But QBs with the on target % of Kyler who also have elite legs definitely don’t come around often either

[@-Thunder]

I want to see Tune vs. Dobbs in the final game.

[@AnthonyGisme]

Should be no off season for K1and company. Offense needs to practice all off season and study film to learn why they can get things done.

[@tdacktal187]

We already have our answer on who/what Kyler is... The point stands tho.. Nothing really better out there.

[@The90sPapi]

Get a 1 if we can. Start Tune and tank for Arch

[@teej1056]

Would you trade Kyler for Caleb Williams right now? Just curious

[@wrxrox]

Kyler isn’t the issue. The lack of an o line that provides a consistent pocket to pass out of, an OC that knows how to call better game plans and the ability to pressure opposing QBs are what are needed. A defense that doesn’t let a 3-11 team out 36 points on them might also be useful. Everyone harping on Kyler are missing the real issues on this team. Replace him and the problems still exist with a qb that probably can’t run his way out of them as Kyler often does

[@scottpollack1007]

You are a PRIME EXAMPLE of why the.Cardinals will not get rid of Kyler! You’re DELUSIONAL! Look at Kyler’s play during the last Six Games! He’s thrown several interceptions but, it’s the interceptions themselves that speak to an even Bigger Problem! His HORRIBLE DECISION MAKING! Against the Vikings, he threw that long pass that was a few yards in bounds that was intercepted! A lot of people thought he was trying to throw it out of bounds! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT OF BOUNDS! In Sunday’s game against the Rams, he throws a pass to the Goal Line and the receiver was DOUBLE COVERED! DUMB INTERCEPTION! Then with little time left, he throws a 5 yard pass to McBride which should have Won the game and he doesn’t wait for McBride to look in his direction and throws the pass too hard and it bounces off his helmet and is intercepted! HORRIBLE DECISION! If you look at his interceptions during the last Six Games you will see that most of those throws were HORRIBLE DECISIONS on Kyler’s part! Even a ROOKIE doesn’t make that many terrible throws in a series of games! BOTTOM LINE: Kyler is way too INCONSISTENT, makes HORRIBLE PASSING DECISIONS, and is a TERRIBLE LEADER! I’ve watched him closely since the Bye Week and he doesn’t try to FIRE UP HIS TEAMMATES! He simply sits on the sidelines by himself and Sulks and Pouts like a 5 year old! I don’t care what Quarterbacks are available that doesn’t dismiss the FACT that Kyler needs to go! The only thing Cardinal Fans have to hang onto is HOPE! There is NO HOPE and NO FUTURE with Kyler Murray at Quarterback! PERIOD!

[@scottpollack1007]

How much more time are you going to give this CHUMP? Kyler Murray has proven in Six Seasons that he’s incapable of leading this team to a Championship! Quit wasting the Fans Time and GET RID OF HIM!!!

[@BrandonVaughn-t3g]

The problem is youre right but, Kyler is viewed as the scapegoat. I come on here all the time and say that he literally has a split second to throw or he’s running out of the pocket to go through progressions. No matter what qb you bring in here it will not change the amount of interceptions or inconsistent qb plays. The pocket collapse right after the snap which is why so many interceptions happen. The OC not using Marvin all season is crazy. He needs to go in order for us to thrive. Trade Kyler to a team with o-line and some good play calling. The whole fanbase will be upset when he’s an MVP candidate.

[@citizenscapital2458]

Spot on! Also need more guys who can assist with getting the defense off the field on 3rd down. Jalen Thompson and Murphy-Bunting are awful at playing in space, covering tackling and just over all play and situational football. Defenses scouted these 2 guys as weak links and targeted them in key, 3rd situations. They will either give up a big catch or get a p.i. call.

[@citizenscapital2458]

​@@scottpollack1007, the Cardinals suck as an organization and you suck as a Fan. Murray has your sorry azz organization in the playoff hunt all year with inferior talent and depth and all you can do is get on your period over it? Without Murray, you are a 12 noon game every Sunday.

[@prmac9776]

Question is how much dead money involved what's the compensation?

[@AZFarmFun-hp1cu]

Get Trey Lance from the Cowboys for a 3rd round pick and have Kyler & Trey compete straight up for Cardinals QB.

[@citizenscapital2458]

@@AZFarmFun-hp1cu, seriously ? the 49ers kicked Lance out and he has not been able to get off the Cowboys bench. He is not even the backup in Dallas.

[@MarMoor-bf5uy]

Kyler Muarry ain’t getting traded we shouldn’t believe media rumors Drew petzing should get fired and we shouldn’t pick up a better offensive coordinator that’s what Kyler muarry needs not a former crappy Cleveland browns old offensive coordinator and we need more protection for Kyler Muarry

[@Goosemanlive]

Did Johnny just say “Spencer rattler” nobody is high on Kyler right now but that’s not competition. Put the pipe down

[@chirocket4791]

The big question is who replaces Kyler that would be better.

[@citizenscapital2458]

Clay tune ?

[@YoungfitnessAZ1]

@@citizenscapital2458 lol no.

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

Anyone who leads to Arch Manning with the number one overall pick

[@citizenscapital2458]

@TheHauntedKiwi, Arch Manning! He has to learn how to play college QB first. The nfl and college football are two totally different animals. Manning has to win a starting job with Texas first. He is not ready for the nfl.

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

@citizenscapital2458 Obviously it's subject to change, but it's crazy to commit to certain failure. Say what you want about the Jets, they weren't necessarily wrong to move on from Sam Darnold as he'd take another four years and three teams to find success. How many more years of miserable failure do we need to admit what we all can see with our eyes?

[@Gto222]

The Kyler chapstick boys. Wins and loses after October says it all. The discussion is over. Deal with it and stop making excuses.

[@2011americanman]

8 wins keeps K1 in place imo

[@grahamparsons4590]

"31.20" that's 1000% what you want this teams floor to be. Get the rest of the team to a level that if kyler isn't it we are just a qb away

[@Hooch-A-Colada]

Cards need to draft QBs to develop to replace Murray.

[@rlaracue]

The QB class is horrible top to bottom SS should be a late 2nd rounder and it falls off after that. Its full of Ridders. Its a VET QB or keep the backup you have.

[@timoteosspiceco.6039]

They need to go after Jaxson Dart in the 2025 draft

[@W_R50]

35-45-1 record. What more do you need. Offence completely replaced. Coaching replaced. Shit, even management replaced. Will Kyler cause Bidwell to lose the team?

[@TheBigBird92]

How many Lombardi trophies does this team have? Guess that must be on Kyler too.

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

@@TheBigBird92 Oh so we just have to wait 10 years and see the outcome after that? There's absolutely nothing to complain about until we have 17 years or so of Kyler Murray? Wow solid argument, nobody can complain until his entire career is done, great discussion

[@AZFarmFun-hp1cu]

Kansas City will give a late 3rd round pick for Kyler Murray and let him be Patrick MaHomes jockstrap inspector. 😂

[@sylviacleveland9084]

The Arizona Cardinals will trade Kyler Murray

[@Seddysaid]

Lol unless they get a top 5 pick, they won't.

[@cinco_de_la_tarde]

If they do, they better have a damn good backup plan. If they march into next year planning to tank again, I'll lose all hope they'll ever put a competitive product on the field. They need to go out and win games next year and trading Kyler doesn't do it

[@citizenscapital2458]

Trade Murray and start clay tune? The Cardinals suck! Get some more real nfl football players. Murray is the best thing you have. The nfl didn't flex the Cardinals into the Saturday game because you are the Cardinals.

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

Lol they'd do it for a second round pick low key ​@@Seddysaid

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

​@@citizenscapital2458Murray sucks. We'd be better off asking Colt Mccoy to unretire

[@michaelroelant7134]

Keep him another year..draft manning

[@fAnaticZpodcast]

No, he will NOT get traded. I can’t wait for his haters to have to roll around to next training camp and oh.. surprise, he’s still our QB. 😂

[@davidmiller772]

@Schaf what, the truth hurts?

[@Goosemanlive]

My thing is everyone keeps saying “well what’s the alternative” “what’s the plan after trading Kyler” it’s called you wet the bed and hand the next QB drafted a better roster than we have Kyler. I know we’re going to bring back Kyler and add pieces and be slightly better than last year maybe a playoff team that gets popped 1st round? Wet the bed let’s trade up if we have to in 2025 and grab our QB.

[@rlaracue]

TB has better coaches. MN has better coaches. JG is a DC. DP is bad from a bad team. Coaching matters and if you have player issues and have mediocre coaches you cannot get players right. Everything you are saying is countered by what MN has done with Darnold. Get a better OC and QB coach and you fix QBs you guys are saying are washed.

[@coryoldham-il5sj]

Trade Kyler and our #1 pick to Tenesee for J. Simmons DT and Tenn. #1 pick. Draft QB. Maybe Milroe QB from Alabama.

[@Zach_82]

U want the guy who just went 16/32 against Michigan with 1 TD 1 pick. And a second half collapse with a dominant team

[@neversober201]

K1 forever, get more offensive line depth, and defensive line

[@ian-0]

Name checks out, u are smoking CRACK

[@Desertrebel48]

K1 sucks ass, he is a glorified beta

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

Delusional

[@GIRTHQUAK3]

People asking for the Kyler trade are salty Cleveland fans that have infiltrated our comments section.

[@midwestaarron]

No, they are 21-year Cardinals fans like us who are tired of the same second half collapse. The common denominator is Murray. Watch the film.