To jog past Michael Vick's all-time rushing record while possibly breaking the all-time passing rating record is ridiculously impressive and unprecedented, obviously MV3.
@JonM4717 күн бұрын
You’re mistaking a career award for a season award.
@jeremiahw136917 күн бұрын
@JonM47 No. I understand who holds which records and the statistics. Thanks for participating, anyway. Imo jogging around for 850 and counting while finally having a great running back to be the leading rusher, he was able to get back on track with the passing game more efficiently than Peyton Manning or Kurt Warner did with Faulk or James.
@davidsmith-uw2ci17 күн бұрын
Now they trying to say pass rating isn't important anymore. (Acho from the facility) Funny they wasn't saying that b4 but now LJ is flirting with that record it's no longer important GTFOH. If JA was flirting with that record they would be calling him the best thrower of the football in history lol
@jeremiahw136917 күн бұрын
@davidsmith-uw2ci Acho was the guy making segments last year before Christmas for Purdy for mvp and how Lamar's numbers don't compare with his mvp season, even though they did better against the current field, he found that angle. He is simply a troll. I'm amazed he has a vote.
@beeendub12316 күн бұрын
@@JonM47all time single season passer rating is a… career award? 😂
@RavensTheNextDynasty17 күн бұрын
Josh Allen is having a great season. Lamar Jackson is having a HISTORIC season Case closed
@RubenZewde17 күн бұрын
MVP means Most Valuable Player, Allen is much more valuable to his team that Lamar and if its stats based he shouldn't have won last year.
@breonmitchell244317 күн бұрын
Josh Allen not having great season 63% completion he have 8 one yard Td
@RavensTheNextDynasty17 күн бұрын
@RubenZewde Josh is 4-2 when below a 100 rating. Lamar is 0-3. Joshes team is able to carry him when he plays bad, Lamar can’t afford to play bad. Hell he even had a chance to win that game against the Texans at the end going 9/30
@lougiacobbi72517 күн бұрын
Everyone wants to gloss over the change that made any of Lamar's front running stats possible. The real MVP of the Ravens is Derek Henry. Case closed.
@melaninknowledge365817 күн бұрын
The only reason they're saying josh is having a great season is because he's not throwing 18 interceptions
@RoadLessTraveledMedia17 күн бұрын
So all that for Peter to be like “Josh will likely still win the mvp” and that says it all. Historic year for Lamar with improvement from last mvp season but..pity MVP for Josh. Seriously can’t with you media
@zorotarded17817 күн бұрын
Yep exactly! Josh has played great…. Lamar has played all time great!
@lc059117 күн бұрын
its the voters fatigue if chuck can win an mvp in prime mj23 years this does not surpises me at all AS LONG as the ring comes this year
@SSP850017 күн бұрын
Crazy
@RUTHLESSambition517 күн бұрын
The Wyte media wants to give Allen the pity MVP.
@lc059117 күн бұрын
@ same argument can be made about the woke media so why politicize it
@boogidwnej17917 күн бұрын
Lamar doesn’t throw “Arm punt ints” like Allen does 😂😂
17 күн бұрын
2 reasons. 1. He learned not to from the Arm Punt King my boy Joe Flacco. And 2, no need to throw up the 50/50 ball when you can take the chance at a crazy scramble.
@jeremyspencer337416 күн бұрын
Lamar has more giveaways this season than Allen does. INT and fumbles.
@FakemeraldLove17 күн бұрын
Lamar has the harder schedule and better personal performance
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
Lamar has a LOT more talent around him. Ravens have 9 pro bowl players this year. Bills have 2. Allen has to carry that team while Lamar has lots of help.
@fallen001417 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusiccause Lamar levels them up
@sushilti8017 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusic What did Josh do when he had all the talent in pervious years. Just asking
@jackboyjoseph513517 күн бұрын
@@sushilti80fr lol
@Ravens_by1k17 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicdude you’re an army of 1. Go elsewhere. You’re outnumbered and wrong
@AceAlmost-m5f17 күн бұрын
What are we doing here? Lamar is the MVP. The passer rating is where Lamar stands out. 120+ ? No QB with that stat and other QB got the MVP
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
Not enough wins. No chance of winning MVP.
@fallen001417 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicif he wins this game this weekend he’ll get it
@RavensTheNextDynasty17 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicwe are talking about the difference of a #2 seed vs a #3seed. One played an extremely more tough schedule.
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
Every QB in the NFL would look good if their entire team was built around them. Get out of here. Dude can't win big games to save his life.
@RavensTheNextDynasty17 күн бұрын
@@Arccanos Josh Allen is 1-4 in divisional Round
@Wolfhunter560717 күн бұрын
prime rodgers was different and i hope lamar can finally win a super bowl even tho he’s still young
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
And Rodgers was winning with worse offenses. What does Lamar do in big games? In playoff games? When the Ravens can't run? Oh, he loses? Weird.
@tdup19117 күн бұрын
@@Arccanos huh?? Devante Adams is better than Bateman and Flowers combined
@WillieBmedia17 күн бұрын
Lamar should win MVP!
@zorotarded17817 күн бұрын
It’s not even close
@jetsbaby820517 күн бұрын
#17 for the red, white n blue.
@jetsbaby820517 күн бұрын
@@zorotarded178 Joshy is winning his first, it’s not even close.
@unionash117 күн бұрын
Josh Allen retired?
@milesromo132817 күн бұрын
@@jetsbaby8205Honestly, it should be Lamar, Saquon and then Goff with Josh fourth. I’m not even sure why he’s in the conversation when he had seven bye weeks this season. Chiefs were a bad-good team when they played and the Lions have a million defensive players on IR. Allen is a goal line TD merchant.
@CleHasToSayIt17 күн бұрын
This is actually silly…. Lamar is literally the MVP.
@Matthew.Wade2717 күн бұрын
I know people have Lamar fatigue or they think he shouldn’t have won in past years. But the reality is, he IS the MVP this season. Period. Full stop. Allen is playing phenomenal, but Lamar has been other-worldly.
@boaznembunzukuba109617 күн бұрын
💯
@RavensTheNextDynasty17 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson is going to be the only player in history to throw for 4000 yards and rush for 900 yards in a season. That is an accomplishment in itself but when you add on 40+ passing tds and less than 5 ints. And possibly breaking the single season passer rating. Lamar Jackson is the best qb in rushing yards and if he has a great game he can also have the highest passer rating not just in a season but ALL TIME, he’s very close to catching Rodgers for that as well.
@lougiacobbi72517 күн бұрын
And when a playoff team turns them one dimensional and Lamar doesn't get to play as a front runner in the playoffs, he will lose again. End of discussion.
@melaninknowledge365817 күн бұрын
Lamar makes you cry yourself to sleep every night kid 😂 Not bad for a RB
@RavensTheNextDynasty17 күн бұрын
@@lougiacobbi725 the problem was last year the other team didn’t force him to do that. The terrible coaching did??
@lougiacobbi72517 күн бұрын
@@melaninknowledge3658 I love when casuals go to the "cry kid" card. Thanks for telling everyone you're a toddler. Get back to me when you grow up.
@SSFOE3317 күн бұрын
@@lougiacobbi725you sound so grown yourself dude I'm amazed!! How do you do it???? What's the secret!
@Dimezprod17 күн бұрын
Lamar should be the mvp. He has the better stats, has a better record vs playoff teams (7-3), (compared to Allen who is 3-3). Lamar has had the bigger mvp moments, and performances. Head to head destroyed Allen’s team. You can’t even make the “help” argument either since Allen is the one with a 5x pro bowl wr. Bills fans also mention “two good tight ends” when Allen has Knox and Kincaid. They try and make the “separation rate” argument as-well. That doesn’t even work since BAL is top 5 and drop %. There is no argument for Allen to be the mvp over Lamar.
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
Baltimore has 9 pro bowlers. Bills have 2. Lamar has a LOT more help including pro bowl WR Flowers. Diggs didn't make pro bowl. He's over the hill at 31.
@Hbomb-nt7on17 күн бұрын
Bigger moments😂😂. Allen's game winning rush Td on the chiefs. The snow game throwing recieving Td and the 13- 3 record and beating both top teams with little help. Lamar won last year and JA17 had better stats.. keep moving the goal posts for BLM regime
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
Zay Flowers and Rashod Batemen are top 5 in Separation %. Your take is falling apart.
@Ravens_by1k17 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicflowers should not have been a problem bowler lmao
@Dimezprod17 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusic They get separation because Lamar is top 5 in time to throw, this is because he the best scrambler and extends the plays long enough for them to get open. (Did you watch ravens vs bucs?) If you weren’t a casual, you’d also know how flawed of a stat separation rate is.
@izzydadopest17 күн бұрын
The media has really convinced us that this is an actual race. It's not! Lamar is the obvious MVP.
@melaninknowledge365817 күн бұрын
😂 fax
@deliriousgeorge287917 күн бұрын
Henry is more mvp than him 😂
@CleHasToSayIt17 күн бұрын
@@deliriousgeorge2879stop watching football. Watch some netball or something
@tdup19117 күн бұрын
@@deliriousgeorge2879 2 MVP without Henry 😂
@deliriousgeorge287917 күн бұрын
@@tdup191 1 where he was an rb and 1 Micky mouse diversity media darling award
@segagenesis770817 күн бұрын
Case for Lamar: Ravens are 0-5 when Lamar has a passer rating under 114. Better record against playoff teams, teams with a winning record, better numbers in those cases. Tougher SOS and better SOV. The OL concerns going into the season manifested themselves in the Guard play, however, due to the presence of Lamar, Henry gets more space at the line than expected and is on pace for the highest YPC of his career, at age 30. He is putting up historic numbers despite having the 5th highest percentage of passes dropped, of any QB in the league. That's on top of his running ability, rush yards, and how his running positively impacts Henry. All while having a defense that didn't stabilize until about ten weeks into the season.
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
Ya'll gotta understand that a LOT of people interpret this differently. The Ravens have been built around Lamar. That means they have to be able to run the ball for him to succeed. So of course Henry is doing well. And of course Lamar is doing well because Henry is taking a lot of pressure away from him. For a lot of people , Lamar's utter dependence on a good run game is enough for him to never be considered as an MVP let alone a Pro Bowler or All Pro.
@segagenesis770817 күн бұрын
@ But what those people don’t get is that it’s not ‘Lamar’s’ dependence on a running game. It’s the ‘team’s’ dependence on the running game. They didn’t draft Lamar and then say, ‘You know, he has EP offense experience, his progressions and processing are great, he just needs better mechanics and we can have the best passing attack in the league’ the Ravens haven’t cared about making the passing game a priority in 25 years. It’s run defense, run offense, pass defense, special teams and THEN pass offense is a distant fifth. Lamar had to be his own biggest advocate for just average changes to the passing game structure and personnel.
@TDeuce-u3f17 күн бұрын
He plays in the toughest division in football. Josh Allen gets to cake walk a divisional title every year
@RUTHLESSambition517 күн бұрын
Lamar changed the QB position forever
@omeeawakened17 күн бұрын
We’re never seeing another Lamar. Nothing will come close
@RUTHLESSambition517 күн бұрын
@omeeawakened we won't see those stiff Wyte QBs ever again😂😂They are a liability. You gotta go get the Daniels,Stroud, Sanders,hurts
@darriuss457417 күн бұрын
@@RUTHLESSambition5😂😂😂
@Galero1517 күн бұрын
@@omeeawakened I'm a Lamar stan and I'd say we're going to see more and more Justin Fields and Jayden Daniels show up
@omeeawakened17 күн бұрын
@ agree
@Gsbabygirlforeva17 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson and the Ravens would have a better record if it wasn't for Justin Tucker's missed field goals or PAT this season.
@newagain996417 күн бұрын
Tucker coated BAL 3 games. THREE!!
@FollowerOfChrist36517 күн бұрын
Or a bottom 3 defense for the first 10 weeks
@Tank-4217 күн бұрын
Agree 100% Passer rating 121.6 - 2nd highest in NFL history!!! 39 TD only 4 INT Allen has played 13/17 against non playoff team, imagine if Lamar schedule was same as Allen
@CleHasToSayIt17 күн бұрын
Can you imagine… they wouldn’t be giving Lamar the mvp roles reversed
@edreedson17 күн бұрын
When the Bills played the Ravens Josh Allen got benched. Its over
@TDeuce-u3f17 күн бұрын
Same person that went 9/30 against the texans btw. Yes, the same texans that ravens destroyed 31-2
@MrXBurneracct17 күн бұрын
Thank you for this segment Peter, thank you!!! Lamar is MV3 off stats, highlights, historic precedent, SOS & H2H vs elite teams (DVOA)... ALL factors in determining LEAGUE MVP
@jms489117 күн бұрын
These 'No consecutive MVP' tradition is downright stupid
@YoungboiNB17 күн бұрын
Well it’s not a tradition. 2021 was just 3 years ago.
@Ohnij16 күн бұрын
@@YoungboiNBuhhh….. look up who was MVP last season
@YoungboiNB16 күн бұрын
@@Ohnij bruh what are you yapping about. They haven’t voted on who is MVP this season, so no there’s no tradition of no consecutive MVP’s. Aaron won in 20 and 21. Peyton won in 03 and 04 also 08 and 09. And Farve won three straight 95-97. And there’s a good chance Lamar repeats this year. But you here yapping, you have nothing to say so maybe just don’t speak.
@edreedson17 күн бұрын
Lamar is flirting with the best QBR of all time. He is the MVP
@ArccanosКүн бұрын
@@edreedson Really played at an MVP caliber level tonight, huh?
@magivkmeister616617 күн бұрын
Yes, shouldn't even be a conversation.
@emiliovillacorta427617 күн бұрын
If Lamar doesn't win it (which it seems will be the case), then this will be remembered similar to Embiid's MVP over Jokic due to "voters fatigue".
@AceAlmost-m5f17 күн бұрын
Voter fatigue? More like voter fraud 😮
@z_xchhh17 күн бұрын
Can’t wait for Lamar to channel his inner Jokic and destroy the entire playoff ticket and win the SB MVP to rub it in their faces. We will hear just as we did in for Embiid “The other guy deserved it more.”
@emiliovillacorta427617 күн бұрын
@@z_xchhh Hopefully it happens! I have always seen Lamar like a Giannis counterpart or a young MJ. He simply needs to step up in the playoffs, get the job done and hopefully the Team do they part to get that monkey of their back!
@NFLEDITZ35615 күн бұрын
The NFL is gonna be pressured by the fans not to vote him and to have a new winner. I think Lamar wins but if Josh wins I’m not really shocked
@darrentorain627817 күн бұрын
Yes not to mention none of his ints are his fault if he don’t win it’s rigged bro Lamar having the best season of his career
@ShepherdofFire15117 күн бұрын
It's rigged either way, bro. That's why we lost to Taylor Swift and her record-breaking Superbowl views last year.
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
Or, its because people are figuring out that he's wildly overrated and that his team has to be handcrafted around him for him to be successful. Lets put this in perspective. Lamar has ten 4th quarter comebacks and twelve game winning drives. Zero in the playoffs. Allen has 13 4th quarter comebacks and 21 game winning drives. Zero in the playoffs. Mahomes has NINETEEN fourth quarter comebacks and 23 game winning drives. He has an additional 5 fourth quarter comebacks and 6 game winning drives in the post season. Well over double Lamar's figures when combined. When Lamar has to actually play quarterback and isn't propped up by his run game, he fails. Repeatedly. People have come to learn exactly what he is, overrated. He isn't someone who you can depend on in big games. He never should have been an MVP.
@FollowerOfChrist36517 күн бұрын
@@Arccanoshave you ever watched football a day in your life
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
@@FollowerOfChrist365 Prove what I said wrong.
@FollowerOfChrist36517 күн бұрын
@@Arccanos you proved it yourself with that nonsense
@missile87redefined2517 күн бұрын
Lamar not winning it will be one of the biggest robberies in sports history
@DrShwazz17 күн бұрын
No QB has won their 3rd MVP before winning a SB first. Voters will take that into account - is it fair, maybe not but voter fatigue is real.
@Hbomb-nt7on17 күн бұрын
Shouldn't have won last year
@WoahLookAtThatFreak17 күн бұрын
Lamar winning the MVP last year was the biggest robbery in sports. Mid stats with half the QBs in the league injured.
@darriuss457417 күн бұрын
@@WoahLookAtThatFreakLamar destroyed everybody that was somebody last year
@tohsakamine17 күн бұрын
@@darriuss4574 dude had %54 of his teams scores....... No QB MVP has had less than %70 until last year. That's the furthest thing from valuable.
@nonya602217 күн бұрын
Still think that Justice Hill play was a fumble not an int. Hill has the ball and takes multiple steps before the defender pulls it away.
@rhyno51417 күн бұрын
That's crazy that the 4 ints aren't his fault, lol
@lougiacobbi72517 күн бұрын
Lamar has NEVER thrown an interception or even a bad pass that is his fault. It's always someone else's fault. Just listen to his bootlickers.
@rhyno51417 күн бұрын
@lougiacobbi725 okay
@CleHasToSayIt17 күн бұрын
@@lougiacobbi725look at this bitter hating biscuit.
@Barefootkicker17 күн бұрын
@@lougiacobbi725You can't tell me any of those picks were his fault.
@AD-mq9yh17 күн бұрын
@@lougiacobbi725 watch all his ints from this season. Mby 1 of them are his fault
@omeeawakened17 күн бұрын
This would be like Aaron Gordon not winning the dunk contest
@felixsandrino338017 күн бұрын
MV3!!!
@jetsbaby820517 күн бұрын
Josh Allen
@milesromo132817 күн бұрын
@@jetsbaby8205Bro you being a Jets fan and still glazing Josh Allen is why your wife’s boyfriend laughs at you.
@youngblood412717 күн бұрын
@milesromo1328 LMFAO
@melaninknowledge365817 күн бұрын
@@jetsbaby8205 9/30 isn't mvp kid 😂
@myapatterson822817 күн бұрын
@@melaninknowledge3658losing to the raiders and browns not either 😂😂😂
@shizza8217 күн бұрын
IF you want to factor in more towards Lamar's favor, he's got a tougher schedule and a MUCH HARDER division than Josh Allen. Lamer is 100% the MVP, shouldn't even be up for debate honestly.
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
@@shizza82 Y'all keep saying it's a hard division. What's y'all's playoff record the last 10 years
@KMunnaUT17 күн бұрын
Imagine having a historic season that’ll probably never be duplicated, breaking the NFL record for most rush yards by a QB, 7-2 against all AFC playoff teams (including Bengals) & blowing out the suppose “MVP favorite”; just to not winning the MVP because the other guy beat KC (not in Arrowhead) and a depleted Lions team…
@FollowerOfChrist36517 күн бұрын
They never talk about him going 9/30 or the Patriots came either because it goes against the narrative
@ArccanosКүн бұрын
@@KMunnaUT I mean...I think people are starting to see that Lamar is not carrying his team. It's the other way around. He proved it again tonight
@Donnieking04515 күн бұрын
Those 4 interceptions weren't even his fault .
@ryanbradshaw381317 күн бұрын
If you think Josh should win over Lamar you don’t know football
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
If you think Lamar deserves another MVP when he can't win big games or win when his team can't run, you don't know football.
@HNiCDuke17 күн бұрын
@@Arccanoshe just won 2 back to back big games kid 😂. Keep coping kid. The mvp js a regular season award. You haters don't even have valid reasons why Lamar shouldn't be
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
@@HNiCDuke Lamar shouldn't be an MVP because he's not carrying his team. Allen is. Burrow is. Saquon is. Lamar's MVPs should've been OPoY awards. Not MVPs. He's a fraud at this point. Most overrated player I've ever seen.
@HNiCDuke17 күн бұрын
@@Arccanos when lamar passer rating is under 114 they lose, when it's over 114, they win! 😆 casuals lie but numbers don't kid. We've seen Josh allen play bad and his team still win kid. Idk what your watching but it's definitely not football! Barkley, goff, and darnold are more suitable candidates than Allen kid
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
@@HNiCDuke I love this argument because it shows you how little someone knows about football. Lamar only does well when his team does well. The other guys don't need their team to do well for them to ball out and carry their team. How many game winning drives Lamar got vs. Mahomes lol. Lamar can't put his team on his back in big games. That's the definition of an MVP to me. Many other players do that frequently.
@tonylove668217 күн бұрын
Lamar is beating teams with his BRAIN 🧠....it's ok to say it. This guy has no weakness. He has FULL CONTROLL of the offense, and with KING HENRY 🤴🏿 in the backfield, you have no chance !! 🏆
@Bowlife9317 күн бұрын
Bro it’s embarrassing Joe Burrow isn’t even mentioned in the comments yet. WILD!
@Ryan-zt2xw17 күн бұрын
He’s 8-8 and not even going to win his division. He’s been great this year, it’s just not how it works. No chance he wins it
@Bowlife9317 күн бұрын
@ so because of poor play calling and his defense Joe Burrows stats get over looked? As a true football fan you can’t honestly agree with what you just said brother.
@Ryan-zt2xw17 күн бұрын
I’m not saying I agree. I’m saying based on history that the award will never be given to a QB that hasn’t won his own division.
@phdonme117 күн бұрын
If Lamar had lost to Joe Borough twice do you think he should've still be considered for MVP? Your answer is going to be no so that's your answer for Joe Borough.
@phdonme117 күн бұрын
Ii think he should' win OPOTY
@xaviermorris238917 күн бұрын
The Buffalo Bills schedule difficulty is ranked number 19 in the NFL.
@maggieliz105917 күн бұрын
Lamar is most humble superstar in football. Stats, film, and HISTORIC record breaking this season wins him the MVP this year.
@truemultipking359117 күн бұрын
He’s the most deserving of the MVP this year
@nokiiiing579817 күн бұрын
#MV3 stop writing a narrative for Josh
@amaanahmed737617 күн бұрын
MV3 all day
@djdosado17 күн бұрын
So basically one interception
@Kojtxiv555517 күн бұрын
Josh is the league's MVP cause it was handed to him. Lamar is the real MVP, the people's MVP
@larrygraham85117 күн бұрын
Just curious…..when does strength of schedule come into play. I find it interesting that none of the talking heads even bring up this point because it would clearly put this issue to rest
@supadupa689117 күн бұрын
Actually just 1 interception
@brandonmiller436117 күн бұрын
Lamar wants the Super Bowl MVP ‼️👑😈
@Fmr.PBAJoeJenkinsII17 күн бұрын
None of those 4 picks are Lamar's fault.
@monts31117 күн бұрын
It’s not even close🤦🏽♂️ #MV3
@SlimeNews17 күн бұрын
That thumbnail should be presented to every Lamar Jackson hater Dude is the real deal and real People Goat and not the NFL Cheats Patrick " i was gifted an all pro offense since my rookie year" Mahomes
@MPB05916 күн бұрын
Lamar for MVP X 3
@segawalker330217 күн бұрын
Sarah Ellison making her voice heard!!!!
@NotRonn_17 күн бұрын
This being a debate is crazy
@richardfelix424317 күн бұрын
My QB is the greatest football player to ever put on pads! He has already changed the game and now all I think about is what he decried on draft night! LFG Ravenz!!
@AceAlmost-m5f17 күн бұрын
Lamar had the worst defence for the first 10 games!!!!
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
Yeah....the same defense with 4 Pro Bowl Players. 😆
@ZAYPRODZ417 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicthey are in the pro bowl cause they got it figured out they were terrible at the start of the year
@jamaljones3117 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicjust look at the games and the stats, numbers dont lie
@williamkang148117 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicok cool, so you follow the latest headline postings. Very powerful insight.
@kevindelavara467417 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicfirst 10 games ravens secondary was 32nd in the league giving up 400 yards a game. Lamar still overcame all the bad defense and special teams plays to keep the team alive to now win the division.
@smokey_41017 күн бұрын
Mvp voters need to be former NFL players, coaches, and GMs who actually know how difficult it is to succeed at this level. Not emotional pity party media members who will sympathetically vote for Josh Allen's above average season while Lamar is having an all-time great season and needs a passer rating of 130 in his final regular season vs the Browns to set the all time record of 122.6, he is currently at 121.6 thru 16 games.
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
@@smokey_410 ugh. Lamar isn't that guy. Take him off the Ravens and they still a playoff team. Take Allen off the Bills and they're a 2 or 3 win team. That's why he is going to win MVP if he does.
@slipperydoorknob995016 күн бұрын
@@Arccanoshe’s not that guy but he’s also the best passing and running qb in the nfl never thought I would hear that
@RavenMafia520816 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson clearly the mvp
@jamesstrom699117 күн бұрын
Lamar had a much higher betrayal index than josh. josh had 28 drives start inside opponent territory, highest in nfl
@Will-2BMorePositive17 күн бұрын
Can you find a game where Jackson threw 0 touchdowns and the Ravens won by 20 or more? It can't be done because the MVP must throw TD's this year to win games. Josh is no MVP. They put up 30, Allen threw an INT but no TD's. He did run it in but the defense and special teams won that game vs Indy. Also look at his play vs the Patriots, Texans and those Ravens. The games they won were because of special teams and the defense ... Josh is no MVP. What about this "challenge". Find a 5 TD game by Allen. That game isn't on his 2024 season resume. Jackson has 2 "Jackson 5" games while Josh only has 1 "Allen family of 4" TD games. Lamar has several 4 TD games. To recap...Buffalo can win when Allen throws 0 TD's, while the Ravens cannot. Josh hasn't dominated a team this year by showing how a QB should throw the ball to score like Lamar has done. Allen is no MVP. Watch the tape of all Allen's games and Lamar's. The ratings compared to the Win vs Loss record says it all if you want a quick synopsis. Allen is no MVP ... you can say his team is the best team because they can pull out a win when Josh played like a 3rd string qb. With those facts *AND* stats, I don't understand how Allen can be placed over Lamar, the MV3.
@Sweetpotato171717 күн бұрын
All this hate is so sad to see In the comments
@BluLight-17 күн бұрын
This is more refreshing than just putting down other candidates. We should be praising elite talent, not saying debates every day
@Kylerrules17 күн бұрын
Listen what we really want is Lamar To be SUPER BOWL MVP
@jessicaZep17 күн бұрын
By far ….LAMAR. That’s my quarterback That’s my MVP 🎱
@HNiCDuke17 күн бұрын
They said this guy wouldn't last 3 years in the nfl. They also said he wasnt a QB. Now years later They said this same guy is winning too many MVPs 😂 In 7 seasons, this same guy has achieved the same milestones as HOF QBs and broken records in far less games. MV3
@xsupreme14417 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson will be the 2024 MVP, stop it. …… who back here after the Ravens Super Bowl Win?!?
@ArccanosКүн бұрын
@@xsupreme144 Ahhh, this one stung a bit huh? Lamar proving yet again he isn't the reason his team wins.
@kevincorbin627317 күн бұрын
Hard to bet against him
@epicprince819616 күн бұрын
NO NO NO,, where is Jared Goff at? If Detroit beats Minnesota, don't you think sweeping a historic competitive division. When has 3 teams put up 12 or more wins in a season in a division.??? and putting up the stats he's put up, having their defense injured as bad as Detroit has been. Goff Checks the plays at the line, He manages that offense, who's put up historic franchise production. The reason Detroit is as good as they are is because number 16 is the one on the field making the adjustments, making the decisions, playing at a very high level. Doesn't that deserve top 3?
@epicprince819616 күн бұрын
Take away that Texans game, which they won where he threw 5 ints, look at that efficiency!!!
@BootCampBrandon17 күн бұрын
Peter, you did great work, sounded rational, lost credibility at the end. Stahp dude.
@LionMode-pl7uz16 күн бұрын
JOE BURROW!!!? He has put up much better stats. Way more passing yards, and tds…. Pretty clear who the mvp is
@AceAlmost-m5f17 күн бұрын
We shall see if this MVP award becomes voter fatigue or voter fraud if they give it to Josh Allen instead of the real MVP Lamar Jackson
@Ryan-zt2xw17 күн бұрын
If voter fatigue was a thing, Peyton wouldn’t have 5 MVPs
@seanswinton624217 күн бұрын
@Ryan-zt2xw Exactly! The media is corrupt. They change the rules to suit them and to match their false narratives!
@tdup19117 күн бұрын
@@Ryan-zt2xw lol Favre won 3 in a row in 90s. Its not voter fatigue, its Lamar fatigue 🤦🏽♂️
@myapatterson822817 күн бұрын
Stop crying
@newagain996417 күн бұрын
@@tdup191voter fatigue didn’t become a thing until Rodgers won those 4 in 5 (?) years. Because a Cpl of them he wasn’t, stold one from Henry.
@RavensTheNextDynasty17 күн бұрын
Bills fans tell me 1 historic thing Josh Allen has done in terms of this entire season. I’m not talking individual game accolades. What has he done in totality for this season in terms of the record books?
@RavensFlock959217 күн бұрын
I feel Lamar Jackson deserves it but I know that award is a curse and if Bills fans wanna curse their QB then they can have the award. I want Lamar to win his first Super Bowl. That is the most important accomplishment. Win the Super Bowl and break the MVP curse.
@Dinyo5517 күн бұрын
Manholes broke it. He won the MVP and SB in the same season. First to do it since Brady started playing. Or if you prefer, since Payton started playing.
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
Lamar had an average season last year and won. Explain that. He wasn't even top ten in QB rankings. The voters go with the most wins. That's why he won last year, and why he won't win this year.
@WoahLookAtThatFreak17 күн бұрын
Patrick Mahomes broke the MVP curse in 2022.
@tdup19117 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusic using your logic Mahomes, Goff, and Darnold deserve MVP over Allen. Better records and #s 😂
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
@tdup191 Not my logic. That's what the voters have historically done. Look it up.
@samcalven1217 күн бұрын
3 of those passes were not even on him it was receivers bobbling the ball
@maggieliz105917 күн бұрын
Bills fans are like Mom of T-ball player who insists her boy get a trophy just for showing up. It's hilarious. Even if Josh "wins" it, we all know Lamar is hands down THE most valuable player on the field this season.
@deliriousgeorge287917 күн бұрын
Hard to say he’s the most valuable when he’s got 8 pro bowlers, a HOF rb, top 3 te and center, top 10 tackle and WRs with the most separation in football
@tdup19117 күн бұрын
@@deliriousgeorge2879 lol he had none of tht his 1st two MVPs so maybe Lamar is making these players better
@terellkid117 күн бұрын
Lamar could technically be the first qb in nfl history to go an entire season without throwing a single pick. All 4 of his ints were all the receivers fault. Thats insane if you ask me and that historic feat alone warrants an MVP award.
@jdubb4516 күн бұрын
1:09 Shout outs to Sarah Ellison! You're not working for the Ravens anymore but you're gettin that national recognition you deserve 💪🏾
@samazon5217 күн бұрын
The last time Lamar started a game that the Ravens lost by two scores was Week 10 of 2021. Since then, the Ravens have won 20 games by two scores.
@christiandeonhipkins17 күн бұрын
Lamar set out 4, 4th quarters this year that’s a whole game of football and still have these numbers he the real MVP and it should not be close
@LionMode-pl7uz16 күн бұрын
Joe burrow better win. He has way better stats than lamar for this year
@phdonme117 күн бұрын
As I remember the bills got taken behind the woodshed. Why would Josh Allen win MVP over Lamar when he lost to Lamar?
@Dimezprod17 күн бұрын
@@phdonme1 Thanks 🙏
@EricKearneyMusic17 күн бұрын
Bills lost to Ravens. Lamar didn't even throw it 20x. Ravens had 200 yds rushing. Ravens OL and DL dominated the game. Lamar was taken along for the ride.
@Tigercam2417 күн бұрын
@@EricKearneyMusicok lmao. Well your boy threw it 29 times and only completed 16 of them 😂...for a measly 180 yards😢 AND no touchdowns 😢😢😂
@tdup19117 күн бұрын
@@Tigercam24 and got benched then went 9/30 vs Houston the next week 😂
@FollowerOfChrist36517 күн бұрын
@@tdup191don't say that too loud lol
@antoniowilliams944017 күн бұрын
Where was the Brett Favre "lethargy" when he won MVP 3 years in a row? 🤔🤨 Just curious.
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
He was carrying his team. Lamar isn't. It's very different.
@antoniowilliams944017 күн бұрын
Lamar has carried the Ravens for the *MAJORITY* of his career. I don't know what you talkin' 'bout. Lamar has led the team in rushing almost every season, but his rookie year & obviously now. (out for season on IR years included) The Ravens have been the #1 rushing team just about every year since Lamar has been under center. Then the lack of weapons he's had to work wit'. They *SQUANDERED* his whole rookie contact doin' so. Moreover, didn't get 'em a competent OC till last season in year 6. That unlocked his entire skillset. Lamar didn't have audibles/checks till they got OC Todd Monken also.
@Arccanos17 күн бұрын
@@antoniowilliams9440 Oh, yeah. 2-4 in the post season with 6 TDs, 6 Ints, no 4th quarter come backs, no come from behind wins. Really carrying his team.
@antoniowilliams944017 күн бұрын
@@Arccanos Yup, a lot of QBs don't even make the playoffs. Joe Burrow is on the cusp of missing back-to-back years.
@meherenow79312 күн бұрын
@@Arccanos postseason doesn't factor into regular season awards, though 😆 _seethe_ more, plz!
@021Richoo15 күн бұрын
Remember the media pushing “QB Play is Down” “Ban Cover 2”
@dvon109717 күн бұрын
That Aaron Rodgers guy must be pretty good. Surely he has about 3 super bowls
@xsirius911717 күн бұрын
Its lamar and its not close lmao only bills fans are saying its allen but who cares about the mvp how about go win a superbowl and beat mahomes in the playoffs?
@gutsdw16 күн бұрын
Sadly, I think the only way the media and Allen supporters will recognize the ungodly season of Lamar Jackson this year is if he goes 12-5 and has a 4+ TD 155 passer rating 100 rushing yard game against the browns. It is tragic how bitter many fans are about Lamar winning his second MVP but I sincerely hope that the media doesn’t buckle to the notion of Lamar having too many MVPs when it comes to evaluating him and Allen
@MrSinister__9917 күн бұрын
Lamar has the majority of control at the line of scrimmage too, it’s him.
@sigmamind71116 күн бұрын
Seeing is believing. Those ints really weren't his fault. The Ravens OC was in the booth yelling at the WR on the last int. Flowers for this presentation 💐💐💐
@meherenow79317 күн бұрын
allen will be a dei "mvp"; simple as. 🙂
@SA-524716 күн бұрын
Joe burrow is the MVP. This is ridiculous lol
@jdawggrocefus559517 күн бұрын
LAMAR WINS 3PEAT HANDS DOWN
@flarepik17 күн бұрын
Lamar should 100% be MVP - you can't award an MVP for Josh's great season when Lamar is having an all-time great performance
@scruffd0g19317 күн бұрын
Lamar has the numbers to back it up but This will be like the 2023 NBA MVP. Voters will give it to the Guy who hasn’t won it before.
@hoodaffairstv17 күн бұрын
I hope Lamar throws for 500yds tomorrow 🤣🤣 or 400 and 100 rushing for insurance because it's getting insane how they want to do him
@dannyzoofoo17 күн бұрын
Finally a show where Lamar gets his flowers 💐 by the whole group these other shows are looking for ways to count Lamar out and its wild because its clear Lamar is making history in soooooo many ways. I just feels like every other show just feels bad for Josh smh
@Smp8817 күн бұрын
if Lamar does not get his MVP.... the entire league will stop caring about these awards if you just going to give it away to someone less than the mvp... c'mon. and I thought yall said Henry was washed? Lamar has highest passer rating... least INT..... and almost 1000 yrds on the ground... yall can't ignore his rushing yards. Lamar deserves to be in a HIGHER league than the NFL.... cuz he is CLEAR AS DAY the best player in this league. done. keep moving that post for Lamar...
@StepBlvck17 күн бұрын
He definitely should.. but he probably won’t. Voter fatigue & media glazing will give it to Josh. They already said it’s over and we all know Vegas knows already
@koreankid101117 күн бұрын
As a Ravens fan and a Lamar Fan, I don't care about the MVP award. I also don't care about the pro bowl award or any individual accolade. Lamar has his sights on the Lombardi
@Dimezprod17 күн бұрын
We want both.
@darrentorain627817 күн бұрын
Let’s get both
@youngboy357117 күн бұрын
Obviously we all want them to win a Super Bowl but if Lamar deserves it which he does then he should get it
@rashidbey914217 күн бұрын
We want it all bro.. “the world Chico, & everything in it”
@tohsakamine17 күн бұрын
as long as he doesnt vanish in the playoffs like he always does
@davidhardy346017 күн бұрын
What about his rushing yard man if he not the MVP MVP does mean nothing
@SwitchRecords4516 күн бұрын
Lamar is ahead in every single measurable category. Unless Lamar completely flops in week 18, this isn't even debatable.
@Ghutcheson1417 күн бұрын
it’ll be the closest of his 3 wins but that’s not saying much considering he’s won 99/100 votes in his 2 previous campaigns. Over 25 voters would have to ignore too much for it not to happen
@declass948117 күн бұрын
Allen will get his pity MVP. Even if he wins there will be an asterisk next to it.
@teddylong582311 күн бұрын
When will we ever see a player, not named Lamar Jackson, throw for 4,000 yrds, with 40+ TDs, less than 5 INT, rush for 900yrds, and win their division? NEVER!!! Josh Allen was incredible this season, no doubt about it. But what Lamar has done is HISTORIC, not just another good season. If you want to give to a vote for Allen, cool. But voting against a historic season is outrageous.