Will Metroid Prime 4 Break the Curse?

Will Metroid Prime 4: Beyond be the game to BREAK the Metroid sales curse?
0:00 Intro
1:14 It may be set up for success already
4:23 Switch Swan Song
6:26 Switch 2 Deluxe Edition?
7:24 Switch 2 Cross-Gen Launch?
10:27 Prime 2 & 3 are a must
11:58 Most likely successful scenario
13:27 Game Features
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Video by: Joey Ferris
Thumbnail by: Tom Arnold
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[@Ruleof2Review]

Yes it will! And I will buy a Metrillion copies to help it achieve this goal…

[@Lymington214]

Metroid and Donkey Kong are now experiencing a role reversal of last generation

[@lmarcos21]

I completely agree with Joey in everything. Also, I'm 100% sure Prime 2 and 3 will be re-released and I'm very excited to revisit them. Prime 3 in particular has some jaw dropping environments.

[@ScrimmyBunglets]

Idk about that. Unless prime 4 comes out late next year I don't think there's time for 2 and 3 to come out

[@Leonkennedy19992]

Yep i really dont get the hate with prime 3. Its my favorite out of the prime trilogy

[@Jabeeps]

If you're interested in replaying them, check out primehack

[@corey2232]

I miss the days where companies offered MULTIPLE 1st party launch games & tried to provide variety. It wouldn't have been a problem in the past to launch a system with a new 3D Mario AND a new Metroid.

[@sasook]

I mean, Switch put out Odyssey & BotW relatively close to each other

[@Galaxia_EX]

I’m all for that too, what Joey was saying (and rightly so) is that MP4 can’t compete with something like Odyssey 2 if they’re both launched at the same time.

[@danielmales123]

Thats is true tough most nintendo fans would skip metroid en get mario

[@TheRavenArchon]

I've noticed a pretty significant uptick in streamers who all went out and bought Prime Remastered after the Prime 4 announcement, so that's something, anecdotal though it may be. I'm still not sure Metroid has the mass appeal though. It's my favorite franchise of all time, but I openly admit its design is very niche. Just being a dark scify game on a Nintendo console alone makes it slip under a lot of people's radars I feel.

[@robertkenny1201]

To be Honest I seriously fear Metroid Prime 4 won't sell too much better then Dread, regardless of how much of a flawless masterpeace it turns out to be. It'll be a miracle if it sells as well as Kirby & the Forgotten Land let alone Breath of the Wild Level sales.

[@Medachod]

That Kirby game being full retail for two hours to the ending, well Prime 4 will probably take at least thirty hours for most casuals to beat.

[@Austinator0630]

Your correct on that matter as prime remastered sold less than Dread.

[@robertkenny1201]

@Austinator0630 though to be fair Dread was a entirely brand new game while the Prime 1 Remaster was basically the same game released on the GameCube back in 2002 just with updated visuals, graphics, new models and better controls, it wasn't a complete remake like last years Resident Evil 4 reimagining.

[@Medachod]

@@robertkenny1201 Though it did answer how many people "cared" about Prime real fast. For how many years it had been, especially given it's a *remake* (not remaster) you'd think people would be like "oh wow Prime is back I'm going to support it" but shunned it. Which is odd, given it is reasonably affordable for a remake.

[@buccob]

Also considering that Wii had trilogy so the recency of already having the original Prime was a factor.

[@reeseseater12]

I will also add, Nintendo has to announce their intentions with Prime 4 too; if they don't clearly state that there will be a Switch 2 SKU or free (or reduced) update to the Switch version people may hold off and wait to see if that's eventually announced, potentially eating away at sales that could've been made. Full transparency with their plans; announce plans for 4, then release 2 & 3 a few months ahead of 4 and now people are primed (no pun intended) for 4

[@iPharaoh54]

I would absolutely love to see a Prime Hunters remake on Switch or even if not that. Give us a Hunters Multiplayer game, kinda like what they did with Federation Forces ball game. Having all the hunters available and being able to hop into online deathmatches with friends or even online with a bunch of randos. I genuinely miss the multiplayer

[@Linktotq84]

Federation Wars.

[@christiancountryboyilovejesus]

Honestly, I think it might sell better to just release it on Nintendo Switch. The Wii U had a low install base. I loved the Wii U but a lot of people didn't even know what it was. Defensive editions seem to punish earlier buyers. Because it's like great. I guess I bought the lesser version, and now I need to upgrade.

[@Kogelvis]

No way there's a multiplayer mode. Prime 2 had a multiplayer mode and people hated it. Also, I'm pretty sure no one liked Hunters either, same as Federation Force. The whole concept of multiplayer is antithetical to what makes Metroid great, so even adding it as a purely optional experience would be detrimental to how the game is perceived by fans.

[@skadi2911]

I still believe the game will be a cross-gen title to showcase the new console's capabilities. And I don't think it would necessarly hurt the game's sales either. As you mentionned, the Switch playerbase can not be ignored, and it won't be. But at the same time, they can also release the game on Switch 2 day one and give it some time to sell well before burning other big cartridges, just like they did with BOTW on Switch. Remember, it was the only "big" game on Switch for a month and a half before the release of MK8DX in April 2017. And Mario Odyssey came out in October of that same year, Xenoblade 2 in December etc. Similarly, they could absolutely release the game as the only big shiny launch title for Switch 2 and then put out trailers for Mario Kart 9, a new 3D Mario, a new Xenoblade, a new Animal Crossing and so on. All of which would release in the next months or less than a year after the console's release and of course be exclusive titles. This way, the console would have a lot of momentum going for it, just like the Switch did, and people are going to think both ways : => Some will buy the console for these new games, but in the meantime they won't have a lot to play aside from that new beautiful looking Metroid game that got people so hyped, so they might jump on board and try out the series => Metroid fans and people who get on the hype train for Beyond will most likely think they wanna play this game in the best possible conditions, and these people will likely be hyped by these other new games coming out 6 months or so after the console's release. And so, since they plan to pick up these games as well, they'll likely buy the new console to play Prime 4 on, which will help create a momentum for the Switch 2. I think doing things that way is a win-win situation for both the console and the game. Nintendo has learned the hard way thath they need to give their consoles a strong first year, but they also know that spacing out releases throughout the year is the best way to keep people interested and create a good momentum going forward.

[@aquamanbeforehewascool5347]

0:24 While it's true that Dread is the best-selling Metroid game to date, it's only the 43rd best-selling Switch game, while Prime 1 is the 6th best-selling Gamecube game and the most successful Metroid relative to console sales.

[@MoryBuxner]

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess came out in Japan on the same day for GameCube and Wii. In America, the Wii version actually came out first. What made the Wii version enticing was that it included motion controls. I expect something similar here - a cross-platform release, but with a difference in how you play it to take advantage of the new system's trademark features. (I find it very unlikely, having watched Nintendo for decades now, that their next hardware won't enable radically new kinds of games compared to Switch. They haven't done "the same thing but with better graphics" since the GBA.)

[@Pheicou]

I understand Metroid has never sold that well, but sometimes I’m amazed at how much some Metroid fans don’t believe Metroid can become a way bigger seller.

[@FireFury190]

I think what annoys me more is the idea that selling only a million copies somehow means it doesn't sell well. Like I'm sorry when has that become the standard? So many other Nintendo IPs sell those numbers and continue to make more games.

[@Shinjiduo]

@@FireFury190 I think it has to do with budget. Metroid Prime 4 is going to cost Nintendo much more in production cost than Bayonetta 3 or Kirby and the Forgotten Land so selling a million might not even make the production cost back.

[@plhector]

⁠​⁠@@FireFury190I believe it became the standard when Nintendo titles had their discount prices for reaching a certain amount of sales. N64, Gameboy and GameCube had Player’s choice/“best seller.” Wii, Wii U & 3DS had Nintendo selects. I believe titles under that tag only got a discount after selling a million copies. I could be wrong about the sales number 🤷🏻‍♀️ I honestly do wish Nintendo would bring that back discounted titles 😞

[@Ray_2112]

Well, if it hasn't happened for almost 40 years by now, expectations are like that. It's just a shame since most of the games are really great and would deserve way more attention. People who don't give the franchise a chance are missing out, I have been too until 10 years ago. So glad I gave Metroid a chance, it's now up there with Zelda for me.

[@Joshyboy225]

@@FireFury190the same thing happened with arms, it’s sold 2 million within its first year (almost 3 million now) and people didn’t treat it as successful despite it selling as much as Xenoblade which nintendo fans consider successful. I think nintendo fans expect ips to live up to mario/splatoon/pokemon numbers when they don’t always have to. Anything that reaches the 1 million - 3 million mark is automatically successful

[@christiancountryboyilovejesus]

If they try to sale Metroid as a poor man's Halo they've missed the mark.

[@dominicmallano5633]

They released Metroid prime and influencers said it was the best looking switch game. It had a review score of 94 on metacritic, the original on GameCube had a whopping 97. It released after Metroid Dread, the best selling Metroid game ever. What happened? 1 million sold. I don’t think Metroid prime 4 will be a heavy hitter. KZbinrs will have crazy reactions, that’s it.

[@knuclear2O0x]

My lonely left hand and the love for Samus will break the curse

[@metaridley77]

They need to make a fucking good marketing campaign. Nintendo has never done this with any Metroid game. Also make it look like a serious game, not an alien killing shooter for kids.

[@Buphido]

I am secretly hoping that Prime 2 remastered is taking longer because they are reworking and improving the online mode. It’s probably not very likely, but I can dream.

[@XenoWars]

Im sure theyre also trying to fix all the simpke ways to get out of bounds via Screw Attack, and in sone cases just simply jumping out of the room. Though if they go with removing the aether again, the SA ones wont really be effective.

[@enorma29]

heh, I was making "Metroid Prime: Alyx in 2045" jokes just minutes before the trailer reveal

[@Pichuscute]

I definitely want to play Prime 2 and 3 before 4. I've played the original game twice now, but never played the others. Prime 2, in particular, I'd really prefer to play in a new version, as it needs some changes, imo.

[@evanchauvey5417]

As much as I hope that 2 and 3 also get remasters, I highly doubted by it will be anytime soon. I'm confident that prime 1 remastered was a project that Retro undertook as basically a training exercise, getting the prime 4 team familiar with how to make a Metroid Prime game on the switch, and once that was accomplished, there was no reason to remake the others as far as Nintendo is concerned. I'm curious though, what changes would you like to see to prime 2? Unless it's controls or graphics, I don't think there'll really be much change to hope for, since the prime 1 remaster was so incredibly faithful to the original.

[@sulejmani.]

i'd also love a prime 2 remake because i never beat it as a kid.

[@plhector]

@@sulejmani. Echoes was definitely a tough title. I actually stopped playing the game for like a year because I couldn’t beat the doors ball mini boss. I decided to pick it back up after beating Prime 1. Echoes is probably my favorite out of the 2. I still have yet to play 3

[@OriginalChrizum]

You never played Echoes but you think it needs changes?

[@Galaxia_EX]

@@OriginalChrizumHe’s heard the horror stories about the alpha blogg, boost guardian, and spider guardian.

[@JamesG314]

Is everyone ready for Prime 4 to cost $70?

[@ChesuMori]

If it comes out on both consoles at the same time, I'm not sure which I would get... I bought Breath of the Wild on Wii U, because I'd be damned if I owned a Nintendo console and never played a Zelda game on it... this is completely different, though. It may come down to what kind of launch lineup the Switch 2 has, or even something like its control scheme. Like, if the Switch 2 has scroll wheels for shoulder buttons, and they do something cool in the game? Gonna want that.

[@mr_m4613]

Metroid Dread already broke the curse, it sold over 3 million copies and now is the highest selling metroid game of all time.

[@dazza2350]

Yeah but can they break the curse again

[@mr_m4613]

@@dazza2350 of course, its Nintendo. People forget that the legend of Zelda was in the same situation, before breath of the wild they couldn't sell over 5 million copies of a Zelda game.

[@marcheharvey2301]

2d Metroid is not Metroid Prime.

[@PBJA89]

3 million compared to Nintendo's newest IP started on a deceased console, Splatoon, is still pitiful. Even Fire Emblem gets more attention, games and sales than Metroid which is fucking sad.

[@mr_m4613]

@@marcheharvey2301 every Nintendo game franchise that sold on the switch outsold its predecessor. Every last one of them.

[@Linktotq84]

They should have a federation wars online game that would be a big seller.

[@BlckMamb]

Metroid “Beyond” is the main feature of the game , you will be experiencing Metroid beyond its previous offerings, I expect this to be open world sandbox experience

[@DropkickNation]

Nothing but optimistic. 😊 I bet it's gonna be a banger. Whether it's a cross gen release, or just the Switch. It's gonna sell well enough.

[@justinyoon2840]

To me, maybe, but more leaning on no because the franchise is underrated along with Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Mega Man, StarFox, and Kid Icarus compared to Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Splatoon, and Pokemon since they’re popular franchises. After seeing how Dread and Prime Remastered came out, I can see it’s definitely not gonna make at least a 5 mil hit. I hope it makes more than Dread’s sale numbers. If Nintendo does plan to release this as a cross-gen release like BOTW did, then it could boost up sales, but given the current state, I think it’s best to stay as it is currently since it’s not popular in both Japan and domestically. I may be wrong though if it performs very well.

[@wheatbread2944]

just wanna remind everyone that fire emblem: three houses sold 4 million copies, meaning it outsold almost every single kirby and sonic game (aside from dream land, forgotten land, sonic 1, and sonic 2) the switch can really make anything happen when it comes to sales and it is amazing. as a fire emblem fan thrilled to see it now be a massive nintendo series, literally anything can happen with metroid prime 4

[@XenoWars]

i mean, Awakening is what got Fire Emblem to where it is now. Its what got a lot of people interested in the series and was on an accessibke/portable system.

[@justinyoon2840]

@@XenoWarsStill, isn’t Fire Emblem franchise still underrated as of today? It’s not on par as Mario or Zelda though… along with Xenoblade franchise.

[@claudegrinnell9602]

I seen another video where the highlighted the ppl working on the game. Many ppl that work on a lot of top notch online first person multiplayer . Ppl from call of duty to halo. There’s more going on . I’m sure the solo player game been done around 2020. Maybe even earlier . Nintendo wasn’t feeling the multi player aspect at that time. My guess is that is was no different or unique from what has come before. Next time around Metroid will be a top tier Nintendo franchise

[@jonato5298]

Maybe the new console will launch with mp4 preinstalled or at least a demo of it like the prime hunters tutorial for the ds. it sound to generous from nintendo but if they know casual people are not into it they may try to make it more apealing whith the price, like they did whit mpr, mp trilogy, or bayo 2 which launched at 50$ and offer you bayo 1 for an extra 10$

[@PATRICKoxoEthafulm]

Metroid needs to be promoted more. Why is there not a live action Metroid movie. Ronda Rousie and Breanne Larson both wanna play Samus in a movie

[@Leonkennedy19992]

I believe if metroid turns into nintendos "horror" franchise it can be the same as a Zelda seller. Just imagine a game like Re2 remake but instead of leon its samus. Insteas of a mansion, its a abandoned planet. And instead of Mr X we have a enemy like the SA-X armor from fusion

[@MorTphyr]

We need Prime 2 Echoes on the switch!

[@ImDemonAlchemist]

In addition to bringing Prime 2 and 3 to the Switch, which is definitely a no-brainer, I'd love to see a remake of Prime Hunters at some point. Probably a longshot, but I think it could really benefit from better controls and (maybe) more content. It's easily my least favorite Metroid game, and I think it could be much improved by a remake.

[@davancleere5957]

What if it’s like breath of the wild and releases on both

[@corey2232]

Only one Xenoblade has ever broke 2 million units sold, while everything else is in the 1.5 million range, yet nobody ever calls in "unsuccessful." After Prime 4, hopefully Nintendo will let Retro continue building up the IP again with the same engine & assets to help bring down costs & development time. If they release a Switch 2 version on top of everything, I think there's a chance it'll do very well. It will never do as well as Mario or Zelda, but I don't think Nintendo gamers are as into FPS games in general. We were during the N64 era, but that's because Nintendo had Rare & dominated the space with multiplayer & 4 player split-screen. That would be cool if Prime could do great multiplayer, but it'd have to be done better than Echoes.

[@YamadaDesigns]

I doubt Prime 4 will sell more than Dread unless they reveal some game changing features like open-world, online multiplayer like Destiny or HellDivers, etc.

[@FreddeGreddeMusic]

I really can't imagine how it could ever be a good idea to put the number "4" to a relatively low selling franchise. Even Zelda games would sell less if they were named 4 or 7 or 11, because there are lots of people who think "oh but I haven't played the older games in the series, I should do that first". Call it Metroid and something new, so newcomers feel welcome, damnit! Other than that, eh, does this kind of game have potential to sell well? I think maybe with more beautiful environment and exploration, fewer dorky sci-fi villains.

[@toamatoro570]

Just wanted to say that take sucked. Have a nice day.

[@OWmofat]

dread already did it

[@aquamanbeforehewascool5347]

Successful by Metroid standards but in 42nd place among the best-selling Switch games.

[@maverickhuntermeta4954]

What curse?

[@SALARIER]

How do you count to a matrillion?

[@futuregamingtech943]

I like this content...More Metroid Prime 4 videos!!!!!😊

[@iLoveBread260]

It's gonna be like what happened with Pikmin 4 tbh.

[@HDGamerofficial]

Metroid Prime 4K Beyond HD is a genius title Joey 😂 you should be proud of that 🤌🤌🤌

[@custybox1569]

I actually believe Nintendo completely messed up here snd waited too long to release Metroid prime 4. Migjt be right up there with dread or maybe a little above. But i really think people lost interest

[@bennygbanger]

From the little we’ve seen, the game doesn’t seem to be doing enough different to break new ground. Us hardcore fans will all double dip in the Switch and Super Switch versions however!

[@garvensman]

Do you even realize what you just said? We saw less than 90 seconds of gameplay, from the intro stage. The game doesn’t come out for AT LEAST another 5-6 months, so of course we don’t know the big changes it has made. Why would they reveal it all right away, when it might not come it for a full year or more?

[@robbiejelsomeno5679]

@@garvensman Probably why the OP prefaced with “From the little we’ve seen…”

[@sebastianguerrero6617]

It's very very unlikely to sell as well as you're hoping, like metroid will likely stay below the big sellers like mario, zelda, splatoon, pokemon, and animal crossing. I would even very confidently say that that series like Fire emblem, xenoblade, and kirby are above metroid in terms of sales and importance to nintendo right now and again it's very unlikely to do that well, I mean it's more important than dk is to nintendo right now that's something to acknowledge

[@iLoveBread260]

It's gonna be like what happened with Pikmin 4, where it outsells any game in the franchise, but it still does low compared to other major Switch titles.

[@robertkenny1201]

Xenoblade sells less then Metroid.

[@96miffy]

Make it a launch title. People flood to get a launch game for their launch console.

[@novustalks7525]

If prime 4 fails... We will never see a a triple A mainline metroid ever again 😭

[@ians_parks]

How come? Dread sold well. Worst case scenario the Prime series may go dormant again. The mainline 2D titles will likely stick around.

[@johanblomquist8705]

I have bought every Prime game day one and that won’t change with Prime 4

[@christiancountryboyilovejesus]

Metroid could take Zelda's place since Zelda has gone off the deep end with crafting junk open sky no cool linear puzzles.

[@samuelohare6884]

Gotta love a guy who knows nothing about the halo sandbox talk about how classic halo isn’t vast and that infinite didn’t ruin the sandbox

[@toamatoro570]

Wait, people still care about Halo? I didn't realize it was 2007.

[@samuelohare6884]

@@toamatoro570 ironic coming from a bionicle fanboy

[@toamatoro570]

​@@samuelohare6884Ooooh, struck a nerve did I?

[@samuelohare6884]

@@toamatoro570 it seems as did I

[@toamatoro570]

​@samuelohare6884 I'm a bionicle fan on the internet, it's gonna take more than that to hurt me bud

[@KlldbyCuriosity]

The narrative that Metroid has always had low sales needs to stop because it is wrong. First of all, would you consider Kirby and Megaman to have good sales numbers? On average for a decade, these two series underperformed compared to Metroid’s sales numbers. Kirby’s only managed to do noticeably better with the very first game and the Switch games (although Metroid games also fell off a cliff after Other M so that was a large part of that) while Megaman has never had the sales figures of Metroid. Megaman also only managed to break past 1.5 million with 11 which is average for a Metroid game. As for the numbers themselves? According to VGSales in millions compared to the best selling mainline game in the Kirby series for that console: 2.73 for the first game (1.75 for Kirby, not even a million for Megaman) 1.72 for Samus Returns (The only win for a while with Kirby at 5.13) 1.42 for Super (A somehow notorious failure despite practically matching the sales of Kirby’s SNES outing at 1.44) 1.6 for Fusion (1.47 for Kirby and the Amazing Mirror) 2.84 for Prime (No equivalent but the N64 Kirby game sold 1.77 on a better selling console) 1.1 for Prime 2 1.41 for Prime 3 (Another loss but this time for 1.85 for Kirby) After this point the games actually do follow the supposed Metroid curse, but they’re also games that the Metroid fanbase didn’t like (Other M and Federation Force) or a remake that had a free and more widely known alternative while being on a platform that was being overshadowed by the Switch anyways. It was only really in the 2010’s that Metroid became “cursed,” until then it was a pretty successful series that didn’t cut it when in sales compared to Mario or Zelda. You wanna know what also doesn’t compare to Mario or Zelda in that regard? Most video games. This idea that Metroid has always been cursed needs to stop. At best it’s a misrepresentation of data and at worst it hurts the sales of the series because it hurts Metroid’s public perception.

[@toamatoro570]

You nailed it on the head, my dude. I will never understand why Super Metroid is considered a failure when it outsold Mega Man X, a game considered to be successful. Double standards.

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

Genius did you forget how the Switch's launch year was like. Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Xenoblade all released in the same year. But every single one ended up doing much better than their previous game's, with plenty of room to breathe between them. It should'nt be any problem at all for Metroid to release in the same year as a 3d Mario or Pokemon infact it would show how confident Nintendo is in it to give it that kind of treatment. You clearly want your own idea to come true and don't want to acknowledge any other outcome. I'm not even a fan of the series and I think it's going to sell well.

[@i81up2]

I hope they release Prime 2 and 3 before then. I never finished 2 back in the day and haven’t played 3. At the same time though, I kinda want the Prime Remastered treatment for them.

[@tyg-zw7nn]

Not sure how that can happen when Switch 2 is supposedly March 2025. I can't see Prime 4 coming Februrary 2025. I honestly think Prime 4 is a late 2025 title, after the Switch 2 launch.

[@Austinator0630]

Your right. There is really no way Nintendo is going to allow Beyond to become a launch title for the next system when 3D Mario is better suited for that position.

[@Caolan114]

The Switch Is a cash machine a lot more people own a Switch than people that owned a GameCube From a glance at the trailer, yes It looks good and Metroid fans recognize the main villain but what does this game have to appeal to non Metroid fans Zelda BOTW was a lot of peoples first Zelda game because apart from being a Zelda game It's draw was how fun It was to explore an open world and play the game the way you want Metroid Prime 4 so far seems to stick to the traditional Metroid Prime 4 formula which Is great for a numbered game In a series but If you haven't played the other 3 games what exactly Is the selling point? I do believe this game will do well because of the Switch's player base and the amount of hype fans are giving It We may even see Nintendo hype It up closer to release I mean- have you seen how much they are still promoting a rerelease of a 3DS game(LM2HD)

[@AICW]

If the Switch was such a "cash machine" Bayonetta 3 would not have been a failure.

[@themetalgamer9864]

Damn 24 nonillion copies. That 3 sextillion per person in the world.

[@zainmushtaq4347]

Nintendo still doesn't have a proper FPS game. With Switch 2's rumored beefy specs (~4 TFLOPS (PS4 Pro) + DLSS) it can finally be home to the bigger FPS franchises like CoD, and make Switch 2 a viable contender to PS5/XSX, meaning Metroid Prime may very well become the new "Halo" :)

[@star-rock6466]

Don't know if you really wanna compare Halo to metroid currently, the frnachise has been going downhill for a while. Besides, I doubt nintendo really needs a FPS game

[@GarrusN7]

Metroid is not and never will be "Halo". It has a niche it serves and Metroid 4 looks like it will deliver more of the same. Nintendo doesn't mind having games that "only" sell 1-4M copies. They aren't Microsoft expecting massive sales or they start shutting down developers.

[@francoalmiron5107]

I'm afraid that won't happen, first Dread already did that, second is that while Metroid is a very niche series, is unfortunately always in the shadow of other franchises like Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, and even Splatoon, for me it would be better is Prime 4 just sells well enough.

[@brandonizaguirre2963]

Who are you looking at?

[@evanuribe2726]

And hope there are real Metroid I. This game

[@Rey3518]

Is so obvious it will becausd the Switch alone is selling still millions and Metroid fanbase had growth a lot

[@GuilhermeCordiolli]

Metroid Prime 4 will be released for Switch, then.... Metroid Prime Anthology will be released for Switch 2, including Prime, Echoes, Corruption, Beyond and even a remastered version of Hunters.

[@IAmNotASandwich453]

A man can dream

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

And Prime Pinball, which will be 90% of the package's value.

[@HylianBull]

Bet Nintendo will annouce the new system first then put it on both systems. It will be $70. I hope its $60 so it doesnt scare off new people.

[@NightmarePhazon]

MP4B will sell well but nothing crazy. I've been saying for years it'll sell about 3-6 mil in its first year and that will be it. Us Metroid fans aren't very many but we are the one who double and triple dip lol

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

After Metroid's past, I'd consider 6 mil to be crazy numbers by Metroid standards.

[@NightmarePhazon]

​@calvinbrinenestoris2357 yeah defo, Dread sold just 3mil in over a year, at max MP4B will sell maybe double that coz of what it is.

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

@NightmarePhazon I mean, just in general, 6 million is a crazy number of units to sell, and it's better than a LOT of Nintendo games. That beats out MOST Zelda games (less than Twilight Princess, Ocarina, BOTW and TOTK, and around the same as NESZelda, Ocarina 3d, and Link's Awakening Switch. It beats the rest of them), every Kirby game except for Forgotten Land, every DKC game except Returns, and every GameCube game except for Smash Melee.

[@Gengar55]

I dont know. But we'll see. I would wait and find out and not speculate.

[@Escarietson]

In the area of "Prime 2 & 3 are a must" I feel compelled to say that they should also consider Prime Hunters and Federation Force as well given that, like them or not they are not only a part of the Prime sub-series but also told about Sylux. They introduced us to him and his story along with his impact and reason as to why he was not only in Prime 3's special ending but also what his plans are as evident with not only his introduction and logbook entry in Hunters but also the special ending of Federation Force. It also builds and completes the story package that some people would like to see, plus it would preserve them in so they won't die for good on the DS and 3DS (though Nintendo is rather spiteful about preserving their history). Prime's 2 & 3 getting the big-boy remaster like the original Prime would be optimal, Prime Hunters and Federation Force would work fine with the simple HD remaster like Luigi's Mansion 2 HD has. Since those two were not well received there is no need to go overboard with the visuals outside of HD upscaling and such.

[@darkstriker00]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the switch will be the first Nintendo console to get both a new 2d metroid and 3d metroid.

[@trashaimgamer7822]

I don't think the number 4 is as much of a deterrent as you make it out to be. A lot of franchises kick started their popularity with their forth entry.

[@MateoMata-64]

I am not a Metroid fan (yet), but when Metroid Prime 4: Beyond was announced I thought 2 things. 1: okay 👍, and 2: That's cool, I wanna try it! I recently bought Metroid Dread and Metroid Prime Remastered on the Nintendo Eshop when they were on sale after the direct to try out the series. So far, I LOVE METROID DREAD! Metroid Prime Remastered I enjoy so far (tired sometimes tho), I have just not played as much of it compared to Dread and have not played enough of it to make a proper opinion.

[@lloydholmes4444]

Try metroid fusion on nintendo online pass throu the gameboy advance feature. You'll love fusion if you liked dread

[@deegedeegerson9286]

Dread is VERY good. I would absolutely recommend playing Zero Mission and Super Metroid on NSO if you enjoy Dread.

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

2d Metroid is the best Metroid imo, and Dread is a top three 2d Metroid along with Super and Zero Mission. Super is a bit dated with the floaty controls but other than that it's still an absolute masterpiece. Zero Mission isn't dated in the least and imo is a great Metroid game to start with, so you might want to try that one next. Also, Samus Returns is a really good Metroid 2 remake and it was developed by the same studio that developed Dread so if you have a 3ds I'd check that out. Good luck on your Metroid journey going forward!

[@evanuribe2726]

Please for god sake please I really want Ridley to be in this game the last fight with Ridley in fusion was stupid

[@DonkThikkness]

I feel like one of the only gamers that does not want Switch 2 to have 4K. It’s done nothing but balloon budgets and dev cycles. Causing games to be this slurry of sameness, lacking originality. Massive file sizes and ridiculous patch sizes. I primarily play my Switch on a 4K tv, most of the games I’ve played look great on it. My PS5 collects dust because there are next to no games on it I want to play; due to the unoriginal gameplay and lack of titles coming out for it.

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

It would be downright evil of them to release a superior Switch 2 version after the Switch 1 version. Then they'd force hardcore fans to choose between getting the game immediately and finally ending the wait, or waiting even LONGER to play Prime 4 while seeing everyone else loving it just for some extra content. Or blowing $140 on 2 versions of the game.

[@elijahwilliameby2030]

Counterpoint: choices are good

[@befayedocrimes4751]

Could be day and date with both...

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

@elijahwilliameby2030 *Options* for accesibility and differing styles of gameplay are definitely good, but forced choices with unnecessary drawbacks while the best of both worlds could easily be achieved, are anything BUT a good thing. Making players CHOOSE between getting to play the game at release but miss out on content, or getting the full package but having to wait longer while others get to play; is frankly just torture for Metroid fans and a cheap way to get people to double dip (which they will, and Nintendo will get to rake in their sweet sweet cash while fans have to either shell out or make a decision between two bad options).

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

@@befayedocrimes4751 That wouldn't be quite as bad, but it'd still be a not great decision since many buyers may not be able to afford the entire Switch 2 right away, so they'll still have to choose between getting the game immediately or waiting for more content.

[@aquamanbeforehewascool5347]

I mean we're talking about Nintendo so...

[@Galaxia_EX]

I have a solution. Put Zero Suit Samus on the cover.

[@kildaver]

No. Metroid would need a more accessible game, as well as to embrace some of the more modern conventions of other Metroid-like games.

[@tejedi84]

Why this dude looking at me twice at once? Anyways I think this is why the Switch 2 has been delayed so long. They want to do a dual release for Switch and S2.

[@Vigilanteblade]

If Prime 4 becomes open World, I am cancelling my preorder. I am sick and tired of Open World.

[@wiiownsps3and360]

Ultimately I don’t think it’ll ever change unless Metroid fundamentally changes into something that it isn’t. The type of game this is isn’t accessible to non observant gamers and unfortunately that’s the majority of people who play games. You look at all the top selling games as well as the most popular free to play games and you’ll see a lot of these titles really never ask much of the player at any given time. Personally I’m ok with this. I’d rather Metroid stay how it is and still be a B franchise than it completely change its identity just for the sake of sales.

[@enriquegarciagalvan6046]

Average gamer want open world, online multiplayer, little reading and so on, practically a non-Metroid game. We metroid fans are a pretty little niche

[@metsuryuogikai4907]

I agree! I'd hate to see Metroid turn into something it's not, but if Nintendo could find a way to keep the core aspects and atmosphere of Metroid while properly balance new and old mechanics, they could appeal to a larger audience, but it's gotta be done right. (Me personally, I'm fine with Metroid not being "too" big).

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

I mostly pretty much agree, although Zelda seems to be the exception to that rule.

[@XiTSlash]

@@wiiownsps3and360 Hollow Knight says HI

[@patrickleblanc613]

The problem with metroid not selling very well is perception. Its an ip that is the furthest thing away from anything else nintendo does really well. Almost All of its most popular ip are family friendly, whimsical, adventurous, funny. Fun for the whole family. Metroid, besides being adventurous to an extent, is anything but. Its dark, somewhat gritty, isolationist, not funny or whimiscal at all, would fit right at home disguised as a alien spinoff series. Can also be unnerrving and agressive in nature. Nintendo before has said that they struggle with how to properly market/advertise metroid and these are the reasons why. Nintendo isnt that well known for games really tailored for more mature audiences.

[@thecatinthehat125]

People won’t not by Metroid Prime 4 because they haven’t played the first three. Splatoon 2 sold amazing and I assure you most people did not buy Splatoon 1. That game was on the Wii U.

[@Thechozochampion]

Nah man even in my wildest dreams Metroid will forever be a nich franchise (the best franchise ever btw) Prime 4 will at much sell 5M and this is dreaming af

[@PBJA89]

It'll be phenomenally lucky if Prime 4 sold that much on a very late Switch console. They need to make this game a multiplatform release like Breath of the Wild to increase its chances of selling over 5m, if it's lucky.

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

Mp4 is going to be woke stool

[@ians_parks]

Culture war brainrot

[@ridley2172]

I want to see that full reaction video of e3 metroid prime 4

[@rubemartur8239]

I would love to SEE Bandai 's ideias

[@vinnymac102]

Nope, couple of issues bumping up against it. 1. Its one of the few if only 1st person nintendo published titles. 2. Nintendo is not a "storyteller" publisher. Without know story beats. You need a good narrative with speaking characters to capture the caual audience. 3. This game is the 4th game without 2 and 3 to buffer the game

[@toamatoro570]

I swear, no matter how well this series does people are always going to accuse it of being a failure due to shallow double standards. People need to stop perpetuating the false narrative that Metroid is this financially troubled flop of a series. If it really was it would've gone the way of F-Zero. Its sales look unimpressive when put next to the juggernauts but with the exception of Prime Pinball, Federation Force and Other M the series has always brought in what most standards consider a profit. Prime Remastered has sold more than 1.09 mil at this point, that number was from a single month after the game's release. The franchise is doing better than Warioware, Xenoblade, Bayonetta 3, ARMS, and actually is still about a million units ahead of Fire Emblem.

[@FireFury190]

People really think selling only a million copies means it sold bad. Do they not realize the only reason that's bad for other AAA games is because of their bloated budgets? Nintendo isn't trying to get every game to sell more than 10 mil. So many of Nintendo's B and C tier series sell just fine at 1 mil per game because they aren't breaking the bank on development.

[@toamatoro570]

​@@FireFury190 It sold one million in its first month on the market. It's likely closer to 3 at this point.

[@Lyceaos]

comparig to halo infinite...yeah thats not the best choice, that game is kinda hated at this point from everything ive heard. and going "open world" is NOT good for a metroid game as im gussing your opposition to it too, is part of. going open world would utterly fuck the very core of what it means to be METROID

[@PBJA89]

Halo Infinite is hated not because it's an open world game. It's hated because it's design is shallow and the multiplayer is tarnished with late updates and Battle Pass mentality.

[@Lyceaos]

@@PBJA89 ah ok.

[@workdays2]

Nope, won't break the curse. They would of had to insert some kind of gimmick that gets everyone excited, even if they're not into the Metroid franchise

[@zynux8252]

Simply put, no. This game is coming out way too late for that. Had this game released in the first 2 - 4 years of the Switch maybe, but now I fear it's too late. There is a such a thing as taking too long and I think Metroid Prime 4 is an example of it. It doesn't help that to the casual audience the trailer showed little new or anything that would entice the broader mainstream.

[@juliogodoy8296]

Let's wait for the next trailer and see if they are able to give us something different that excites us and new comers 🤞🏻

[@RandomDumbTeenager]

Honestly I hope Metroid stays a sort of niche series. I do hope it sells well, and I’m a huge Metroid fan, but I just feel like Metroid doesn’t fit being a massive world wide phenomenon, and there’s just so many big space shooter games, and despite Metroid being the most unique and oldest of those sort of games, the series will probably have it’s reputation destroyed by idiots who refuse to actually look into it.

[@adammalko3680]

I would love to see it succeed. The fact the series isn’t successful is a literal Metroid Crime. The reception of Metroid is just not the best, both Echoes of Wisdom and Mario Wonder didn’t go through the controversy Metroid Dread went through with being 2D games. I hate to say it, but I think a big part of Metroid isn’t just making it appeal to a wider audience, it’s getting that audience to realize the incredible quality of a Metroid title and why it’s worth picking up instead of the yearly Pokemon, Mario, COD, or sports game.

[@OriginalChrizum]

What are you talking about, Metroid has always been received as high quality titles save for a few exceptions. It just doesn't have mainstream appeal as it is not a pick up and play type of game and generally has no multiplayer to draw that crowd in.

[@toamatoro570]

Bruh, if over 20 million units doesn't make a series successful then a vast majority of the gaming industry isn't successful. We can't all be Mario, come off it.

[@adammalko3680]

@@toamatoro570 I’m not asking it to be Mario. I think it’s wild that a console with about 140 million players only has about 3 million players interested in the Metroid series. It’s the same thing with Xenoblade and Pikmin. I’m not asking Metroid to be Mario famous, I just don’t think Nintendo is doing a good job marketing the releases of games that aren’t their most popular.

[@toamatoro570]

​@adammalko3680 That's.....literally what you're saying. You want it to be Mario. You see a big install base and you want Metroid to magically become another Mario, ignoring the fact that it's still breaking series records. That's not how it works, sweetie.

[@jorshipoo]

Why would they name it HD on the Switch 2 when it already is HD on the Switch 🤨

[@dinar8749]

No. It won't.

[@toamatoro570]

Hey weren't you that guy who swore up and down that no 2d Metroid was in development, months before we got Dread? And also insisted Prime 4 was gonna drop the Prime subtitle and be the final hail Mary of the series? Your track record isn't the best, sweetheart.

[@robertkenny1201]

Ho do you know that?

[@dinar8749]

@@toamatoro570 Where's your proof I said that.

[@dinar8749]

@@robertkenny1201 Because metroidvanias typically have a max target audience of about 3 million. I predict prime 4 will do similar numbers to dread.

[@robertkenny1201]

@dinar8749 Yeah we'll you might be wrong.

[@thecatinthehat125]

To be honest, Metroid Prime is a bit generic. There are billions of games similar to it, and even if it was one of the first and most unique, it still doesn’t look like anything special. Also, I bought Metroid Prime HD, and I kind of found it boring. 2D Metroid is better because it is way more original, and it even has a genre named after it. I know I’m probably alone on this opinion, but I really dislike first person games, because there isn’t anyone to look at, and from a person’s point of view, you can see significantly less, and it makes me feel stuck.

[@FracturedDreams]

The good news is, we've seen Sony and Microsoft release their games for other consoles and Metroid is actually the first and best candidate for Nintendo to release on PlayStation and Xbox, cause thats exactly the audience that digs these type of games. That way each Metroid game would sell at least twice as much and the franchise would be alive and well. The only thing stopping that is Nintendo's own pride not wanting their franchises on other consoles, but its a more reasonable solution for them than just sitting on the franchise and not doing anything with it and they know it.

[@cesarbarroso7225]

It is not pride stopping Nintendo. It is the know value of the Intellectual Properties, data accumulated from Nintendo’s origin shows it. You have to know it well.

[@the13gaming13]

Nintendo will never let their 1st party games be on a Playstation or Xbox...

[@tonymcneill7779]

Nintendo wouldn't allow Metroid to be represented in Fortnite but you think Nintendo will port the IP to other consoles. 😂

[@PBJA89]

But they made Mario, Kart, Animal Crossing and Pokemon for smartphones (Android and Apple). They even made some games for PC decades ago. So they're no strangers at making games for another platform.

[@plhector]

@@PBJA89that is a pretty good argument, but smart phones aren’t really advertised as gaming devices. PC titles, well, those haven’t been released for a very long time now. Definitely a different time for Nintendo

[@supahsonic96]

I’m feeling in my gut that the switch successor comes out in spring of next year and then Prime 4 comes out around summer, launching the same day for both consoles.

[@XiTSlash]

Pikmin 4 is the best-selling game in the franchise, the number 4 in the title doesn't matter that much. Metroid Dread is the 5th entry in the 2D series and the best-selling one, another example that the number doesn't matter.

[@billcook4768]

You keep using that word. Curse. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[@Xedefenseform]

Honestly I think the gameplay just needs to be faster

[@ZwhatshQ]

Nah. It needs to cater to both the hardcore fans and new fans. Legacy mechanics needs to be the same as always, but introduce new mechanics that feels modern and satisfying.

[@Xedefenseform]

@@ZwhatshQ while I agree that legacy mechanics are important, I don’t think that slow movement is necessarily a trait that qualifies. It really just something that exists because retro underestimated how much slower traversal is in a 3d environment. When you combine that with the backtracking in metroidvanias it really can cause people to get bored imo

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

Good lord I agree. I love 2d Metroid because it is exploration-puzzle based while also being fast moving and having a good amount of action. Prime can never have the platforming of the 2d games because it's in 1st person, but it sure as hell would help to have a faster pace, and I really think being creative with some of the power ups (speed booster anyone?) would help too.