Will our RUTHLESS group leader get what's coming to him? [Shadowlands Pug Adventures]

[@alexhenderson-clark4741]

The irony is that frost DK got so lucky getting kicked

[@proudpatriot3491]

hahahah

[@RealCecilion]

The irony is that hes playing bdk when theres vdh but kick frosts and wont take warriors

[@brandon9689]

Basically admitting that they are going to fail in some other avoidable aspect of play. Bring the metas so we can monkey our way through.

[@jaxaries1980]

You all probably dont give a shit but does someone know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I was dumb forgot my account password. I would love any tips you can give me!

[@camilomatthias5044]

@Jax Aries Instablaster =)

[@crippen479]

People that just want "broken specs" to carry their runs are something to avoid for sure

[@kyleaidenhall]

Yeah its what's fucked up with pugs it says be insane overgear an play broke pics You can run 15s with all specs

[@madtrade]

pro-tip to all my tanky wheelchair out there: do not make a giant pull with mobs that can stack a -15% armor debuf if you can't kite like crazy :p

[@drymeen]

You can't kite this pack anyway. Except if you have some kind of imunities on your melees. When they don't have tank in range, they're gonna apply mutilate on the closest player within 15 yards, effectively one shotting them.

[@shen1801]

@@drymeen The mob will cast 2x tenderize before mutilate, so you have melees tank the tenderize, so the tank can actually take the mutilate without getting one shot. Best thing to have is a hunter, they can just pet taunt it off you, and no real harm to the grp is done. So you let your tank and healer catch a small break

[@drymeen]

@@shen1801 I'll be sure to try it next time we go in NW. We got obliterated in a +13.

[@DWlsh43]

Also thsoe corpse dudes attack your teamates so you cant fat pull them lol

[@iamM4SK]

I got yelled at for not knowing the routes as a tank on the second day of the expansion

[@Harry-dh2pm]

Same lol, day 3 or something. At the start of an xpac as a tank I do m0 with very few skips. I need to learn what every pack does for high key routes. I looked at chat - healer: "tank here. TANK. FUCKING TANK HERE NOW. Just follow me as u are so shit at route". I kicked him.

[@thodorosxanthopoulos]

@@Harry-dh2pm download mythic dungeon tools and plot your route there. You can also see the exact hp and damage each mob has and it's ability does for each lv

[@Harry-dh2pm]

@@thodorosxanthopoulos I use mdt religiously and push keys with the same group. These things arent a problem with you're pushing 14s in a guild group. This comment thread was about m0 on day 3 or something. Posting a mdt route for a m0 is cringe lol.

[@Syncade1]

same, i didnt skipped 2 groups on spires...

[@TheAlexanderbell]

mythic dungeon tools and just import paths from good m+ runners check it before dungeon plan accordingly EZPZ

[@zarebear5690]

Awesome to this series return. Had a total drill sergeant leader in a +6 sanguine earlier and it left a bad taste, glad to see it's not just my experience

[@paulstevens865]

Had the same experience and the same thoughts exactly.

[@anthonydallarosa8314]

There’s a reason these toxic meta lords are pugging a +7 rather than running in a guild.

[@phataken4372]

im just sitting here laughing at a tank having three to four stacks of tenderize on them with every single cooldown up, lmao.

[@7r17r1]

tbf, it's impressive that he actually didn't die

[@snigeling]

Why is he a Blood DK? Does he not know Veng DH is OP?

[@FREdmaN1o7]

???

[@kryptickodex3846]

I wouldn't say op, but definitely fun.

[@true7563]

@@kryptickodex3846 Well you are free say what you want, doesnt change that veng is op right now

[@arthurburnett9886]

@@kryptickodex3846 Veng Demon hunters are the best mythic + tanks in the game by far right now look at any of the top io teams they are all running demon hunters. Blood dk is lacking a shit ton in kiting/damage right now (they are getting a 10% damage increase to almost all their main abilities) Though i think DH deserves the spot (im a prot pally main) they def are the op op of SL tanks right now atleast for dung!

[@petrapancic9800]

So did everyone miss the joke here?

[@irwatchmusicvids]

"You guys definitely wanna see what happens, come on." You're the man lol

[@memo-uw7km]

pug tanks just refuse to use their cooldowns, wonder what they're saving them for

[@boplasve]

the next expansion probably

[@goldensands7113]

For an emergency!

[@shen1801]

I use all my defensives on CD, usually do very big pulls around them. I dont understand, why people do not understand this

[@dhanrajameer7730]

@@shen1801 shut up

[@shen1801]

@@dhanrajameer7730 Are you the tank in the video? You're as salty atleast

[@Tsuna_SoulSilver]

Getting kicked by this group has become a blessing

[@DELZOR]

puging with a subpar spec is impossible right now. funny thing is, the content is actually easy when you just respect the mechanics.

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

You drop knowledge tanks don't want to accept.

[@Hausdieb]

As Feral I can relate.

[@Terrabreak133]

As a lock in general this was the week I realized we are back at bfa all over again. 191 ilvl, 540 io, getting declined from +7 keys.

[@Heavyhands8768]

@@Hausdieb Feral Pumps this xpac

[@Hausdieb]

@@Heavyhands8768 It does. Just seems that not anybody knows it. M+ is also different from Raid.

[@pr0ne55]

"i hope this will make you feel better about your keys this week" i just started and i have a feeling this is going to be exactly what my keys have been like this week LOL

[@omgbrah]

"The angels are dead" lmao

[@MrDoit187]

imagine one of these +7 depleters telling people what to play LMAO. this was hilarious

[@Bluepenguin28]

i watched this on stream and it was funny as hell, your twitch chat's reaction was also cool, kudos to those guys 😂

[@Kittsuera]

at the start, conventional wisdom and warning signs say to leave. 2:12 but yes, "we" all want to see what will happen. 10/10 great content.

[@laxxboy20]

28:47 You can bait Throw Cleaver to hit another mob, like the Meat Hook mechanic.

[@principlefox2318]

Yup the beginning sums up my experience. 190GS sub rouge and having trouble getting a group. People are way to tryhard atm, it's sad.

[@Blimes787]

Im arms war ilvl 193 and almost always do top dps, people just see “class bad” and decline you

[@TheDool]

I feel those Frost DKs. I wanted to pug, group says " MAGE ONLY" and then after I was declined "FIRE MAGE ONLY"

[@Cru7Vchy4pple]

Well you could say that they learn at least

[@durandal4546]

Saddest part is that Frost DK was better than UH in Pugs up until 21+ keys literally because UH required more communication from your Tanks to actually sit on mobs and cleave them while Frost just had to follow Tanks.

[@mokustabby4865]

Gotta love elitist a-holes that think they're all that in the literal first week of mythics... Excellent vid! Keep doin what ya do!

[@taserrr]

I really hate terms that are being so misused by this community. They're not "elitists" because they clearly aren't working on their own performance, they suck in every way and think a +7 is big shit. They're not elite at all, they're just a bunch of assholes with crap attitudes that want their key to get carried by other pug players. Nothing high end player about them, nothing tryhard about them.

[@mokustabby4865]

@@taserrr The term wasn't misused. An elitist attitude/mentality can be exhibited by anyone regardless of skill. It's most used to define players who think they're above everyone else (again, REGARDLESS OF SKILL LEVEL) and that anyone who plays the game differently than themselves is garbage. This was clearly exhibited by the group leader in Yum's vid here, and unfortunately it's become more prevalent in WoW in recent years for various reasons.

[@taserrr]

@@mokustabby4865 So they're just delusional? Because I thought in order to be elitist you actually had to be at a lvl where you claim everybody below that level is bad, which is still a horrible attitude but these guys aren't even anywhere near what they claim is good enough. Just look at the mage combusts or the tank clearly not knowing his own abilities or the dungeon whilst expecting both things from other players and more.

[@donpe8983]

Thanks 4 the vid, mate - it helps a lot. I was actually thinking about playing disc priest but this just looks like getting kicked in the nuts for 30 minutes. Very stressfully 30 minutes ^^ No Sir

[@PureRandumosity]

The mobs snapping to us after a wipe cost us our key too on that dungeon. They didn’t kill our angels though 🤣 just were immune to damage and nuking everyone 5 times in a row even after we stayed dead and rezzed

[@voromiir4327]

I don't even have to watch these videos. Your commentating is so funny xD

[@Golikol369258]

yesterday, the fellowships group leader wrote in the description: "only if you know the dungeon" he was a hunter he did not particular great dmg, maybe average, could even be a bit below average. i was the tank. the hunter used MD 5 times until we reached the third boss. the hunter did not use flare to make the adds visible at the third boss. the hunter said "immediately switch on the webs" the hunter died on the last boss in the first tentacle wave. the hunter did not interrupt at the second boss. at the end, i asked him, why he looks for people who already know the dungeon, if he has basically no clue how to play the dungeon himself. then i wrote down his mistakes and his answer was: "well... didnt know that fucking kids play the game LOL". it is absolutely pointless to argue with such people. they think they are the best and cannot see their own mistakes. they try so hard to be something which they are clearly not. absolutely ridiculous.

[@brandon9689]

When I'm tanking or healing and I sit in a group for 10 minutes while the leader passes up 10 or 15 qualified applicants because they aren't FOTM or armor stack I just fucking leave the group.

[@bissanick]

Honestly thank you. If more people did this I feel off meta dps would have a better time getting into keys of the lead knew the tank/heal would leave if they kept passing up qualified players in queue

[@brandon9689]

@@bissanick now more than ever were justified in doing this. Class balance is unbelievably good right now. I dont care what classes join my group.

[@gezolator]

love the Phrase "To gear, run with your guild" :D In all my Guilds, in germany, the Raidlead was ALWAYS like, "ye nah, u no gear u no coming"

[@Mucuroz]

With how picky they were about the comp, how did they not have a Kyrian for the goliaths?

[@markhyrns6219]

That dungeon and specifically the room with the 3rd boss are the bane of my existence. We’ve had trash mobs pull from the ground somehow.

[@therinni2347]

I had the same thing happening last night on a +8 key. Never happened before in any other run. But last night it must have been bugged or something. Was rough.

[@RealCecilion]

I think its something to do with mages, Never Had that without one and once with one After wiping they Said „mage bug again „ when we were Standings There but somehow were in combat

[@kurrandor]

Trys to look super competitive by kicking "non viable" dps - fails a +7 all by his own because he has no clue about his route or definsives, while actually competitive people clearing +15 :) Gotta love them tanks

[@Blueturbo09]

Hahahahahaha. That was good. Most toxic people like that aren’t even good. People forget it’s a game and just need to chill man.

[@michakot4200]

What is the weakaura that tells you to use PI when someone uses CD

[@YoZasuke]

Funny thing is...pug wise this group was above average^^ Ive seen faaaaaaaaaaaaar worse groups. Just glad that even healers who are much better then me have problems with +7 pugs

[@LazyMonkey24]

Imagine jumping up and down like an idiot instead of moving out of the giant green circle

[@BulletBillWow]

its called vertical dodge as opposed to horizontal dodge...

[@kals_druid]

Dude your laugh when people die is hilarious.

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

5:01 SOMEONE PLS MAKE A MEME OF THIS. I feel like a babysitter sometimes.

[@flogi333]

Wait, you can iceblock the dark exile? Does this also work with bubble/turtle/feign or something like that?

[@kizz5012]

I don't know, but I am curious to find out myself.

[@deenest9992]

pug m+ is the greatest content farm, and i'm here for all of it

[@kalebbowers6455]

Great video. Haven’t even watched it yet 😂

[@iwapje]

This was glorious! So glad the series is back and sooo glad I have a guild to do m+ with xD cuz pugging is a nono 😂

[@ricardobarraza8211]

Which addon is that the one that shows allies abilities?

[@Yem17]

34:34 I tried iceblocking to cancel the boss's ability, but it still sends me away right after iceblock over

[@5133937]

In a group like this Disc seems wasted. Looks like you're spamming Shadow Mend almost the whole time and doing little if any Atonement healing. If you're mostly just spamming throughput heals and the occasional Mind Sear, would Holy be a better choice then, with more healing options and especially more multi-target heals (like Binding Heal, Prayer of Mending, etc)?

[@bissanick]

Haven't played my priest this expansion yet but I'd imagine so since shadow mend isn't very Mana efficient. Why I disliked pugging in bfa cause some randoms would make it so you had to spam mend instead of using atonements and planned dmg reduction

[@anthonyprosapio2635]

Ive been pugging priest heals for a bit this expansion, and I'd say it varies. For pugs that eat up all the mechanics, Holy is better. for its raw healing output. EX when a tank just takes armor shredding mechanics you can just spam flash heal and its much more efficient than shadow mend. For groups that follow mechanics Disc is incredibly strong, because it lets you plan cooldowns for important moments, and that can really get you through tough mechanics

[@jeremyscottkerth7751]

LEGIT never have I saw the angels die LOL that was some funny shit my man :D

[@hellboy19991]

Where did you get the "Do you want to release your spirit?" it's not in your UI FAQ video?

[@marascon]

why is he a blood DK, he knows DH vengeance is broken right?

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

I play holy, it's good, it just doesn't deal as much damage because you spend a lot of time healing. In a heroic dungeon where you don't have to heal constantly, it does sometimes better damage than disc.

[@Doctor_Tumnus]

running schism in a +7 wake pug. You SPICY man

[@matt566]

can run schism in a lot higher than that... tof isnt that necessary if you use your larger cds often

[@Doctor_Tumnus]

@@matt566 dude it's a PUG with a blood DK in necro wake. You're gonna have 100% uptime on ToF. Go heal a +7 necrotic wake pug with schism this week and tell me how that works out for you.

[@empacotador]

They manage to kill the angels, OMG

[@drdankenstein1753]

Groups like these are why I'm scared of pugging.

[@Yomom12388]

This shit scared me too but I said fuck it and jumped in and I love it, though I haven’t gone beyond +6 yet. Don’t quite feel comfortable enough. When I do get the inevitable toxic sacks of shit I just ignore them. If you let them think they’re lead they usually shut up.

[@azure3526]

@@Yomom12388 I just leave those groups, but typicaly me being an H preist is enough for the tryhards to kick me XD Good, I dont want a pug who judges me on being an h preist

[@rubenloza1920]

I get treated like shit as a healer over tenderizing in almost every pug.

[@RicardoMoreiraKrahnin]

I started in shadowlands as tank, so I didnt knew how was the other tanks doing and my pugs were not going good, but with this video, now I know that I'm not bad x'D

[@mike-oxlong]

Tried a +9 necrotic wake. Wiped on trash before the third boss. Spent 5mins dealing with trash spawning/porting between the angles and the top floor. We depleted the key xD

[@jonathanhughes8679]

Blood DKs can have nice synergy.. I like having them. Your guilds moving alone well to9 for heroic. We cleared heroic But on my server we are the only guild. Holy and Disc both work, but as a Druid I like healing with Disc. My guild we have 3 main healers. Druid, Disc and Shaman. We have great symmetry when healing together. But now we have all been playing together for right on 12 years together. I know my guild formed about two months into TBC, can’t remember the years it came out?. But it’s funny that they have cut back and back and back on the things you can do to adjust your character to your liking. And yet somehow the classes have fewer and fewer viable specs that people will accept.

[@nikolapetricevic]

You can actually dispel that debuff, it will jump, but the stacks will reset and the time wont. It just continues to tick down.

[@roostrr42]

This was absolutely great to watch 🤣

[@SKjear]

Hey Yumy, that debuff you said you hate. If you dispel it you only reset the stacks, the time left on it will carry over to the next person.

[@MrPFMneto]

And it's a good idea to do so. Keep managing the stacks and dispel it. Repeat. Repeat

[@therinni2347]

Anyone else have a bug where the whole room gets pulled on the 3rd boss of necro wake?

[@buffridge7007]

What did you use to rez that guy I thought priests didn't have a brez

[@gplr1882]

Leveling up a brewmaster next, can't wait to get yelled at like hell when i don't know routes

[@papillon2066]

Just do your own keys and learn the routes before you queue

[@Doesin]

What WA/ado shows the party cool downs? I tried zen tracker M+ party cool downs but the alignment is all off and I just deleted the WA.

[@samk3141]

Nice to see someone like yoursef having the same issues as me. I've had to let quite a few tanks die for the sake of mana this week. THey seem to think we have inifinite healing lol

[@shen1801]

Way to used to 8.3 i guess

[@samk3141]

@Never Gonnatell Yea, i wish other people did lol

[@Triscraft]

pro tip. make your own group. dont bother trying to find a group in the cesspit of this toxic nightmare. you'll come out geared and still mostly sane by the end of it. after 3 hours of searching i made my own in like 50seconds. ran the dungeon got gear. now i can do LFR and never look back on this madness.

[@RealCecilion]

Lfr is a madness in itself

[@BenjamimaLP]

Now I can do lfr lmao ok

[@itskhro]

Watching this live was hilarious... This isnt the last we are gonna see of necrotic wake pug adventures I bet lmao

[@LordVladius]

This dungeon is a blast) Sanguine depths should be pretty hilarious too

[@drymeen]

@@LordVladius I was surprised at how ok Sanguinde Depths felt after seeing the MDI style tourney on beta. Surely it's gonna be a big problem on Tyrannical week but Kyrian Stitchwerks are just ridiculous on fortified in Necrotic Wake. And blizz pretty much buffed them. They feel like KR Berserkers on steroids.

[@Terrados1337]

Thats about what I expect of pugs. The WoW Community really is something else.

[@smugslav]

35:25 If you combust in the ice you melt it, obviously fire melts ice; basic logic !

[@Nicole-dk1cn]

And then there's my guildie survival hunter who would crush all of them on the meters. Lol.

[@hahailikecows23]

@yumytv for your ui what is the white and blue bar right above mind bender for ?

[@wrongdesire]

whats d addon which shows d stats up on left side?

[@lillykoi8920]

do you use the same VuhDo frames for raiding as you do in dungeons?

[@Rybus1]

These guys were actually better than majority of pugs in this game

[@MonocleoftheFuture]

Can I ask what the absolute tune playing during the 1st boss pull is?

[@LxZLink]

I thought the music in this video was great!! Anybody knows where it's from?

[@kalvinpillay]

Thank you for your hardwork

[@dragonslayer21218]

It's so hard watching tanks play this bad, but then you are too afraid to tank because pugs are toxic.

[@Phoenix-cv8xv]

Got turned down from a +4 on my 201 holy pally because I only had done a +2 of the specific dungeon. Mythic+ community can be the worst some time

[@elliotmarrero5350]

Whats the name of that add on? The one that shows the party’s defensive cds

[@KawaiioHimeSama]

omniCD

[@kid10249595]

Was gonna say it's just a seven, then saw this was done in December which explains it a bit XD.

[@leggie9565]

What legendary are you using for M+ as Disc and what conduit were you after?

[@Tonkz0r1337]

Hey man, what do you use to be able to see weakened soul on your party frames? And what do you think about holy vs disc in mythic+?

[@yumytv]

Most everything on my party frames is from my addon vuhdo, you can find more info about my ui setup here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXmsaaKYi7lqaas I only just started learning holy, to me it seems like a much more reactive healer so it works well in low level mythic+ where damage is more unexpected and you have time to react. Once you get into the harder stuff though and it becomes more about mitigating the damage instead of healing through it I think disc is a bit better.

[@bdubbya4200]

LOL "Ruthless" That made me laugh.

[@joakimandrejensen]

Which healer is the most capable of carrying a pug? I play alone so I want to be able to perform even when the communication and synergy within the group is lacking

[@RealCecilion]

Probably shaman since its the best Output vise atm, has aoe stun Slow a big Hit absorb (grounding totem) and a 12s kick

[@codymatte3014]

This had me rolling dude!! 🤣😂😂

[@Omega_thehusky]

Imagine getting in a plus 5,6,7 I'm a 185 mm hunter with 7 and 8s done and was signing up for like an hour getting declined unbelievable its already gotten like this

[@vincenthammons6705]

bleeding hollow, and kethuzad servers seem to have the biggest ass hats.

[@antoniogonzalez4252]

Just gonna leave this out here, their overall dps was VERY unimpressive and by their talk one would expect more... I know at least 3 frost dk players that would absolutely wreck them dps wise kek

[@papillon2066]

Also the tank wanted the “meta” classes and they didn’t even know how to tank without pulling the entire dungeon.

[@kai-xuanyao4666]

If they did big damage they wouldn't be so picky on a +7 key... Clearly looking for someone to carry them.

[@antoniogonzalez4252]

@@kai-xuanyao4666 That's so true LOL

[@Rufgaudas]

Last pull was truly YOLO

[@keenzo1998]

Hey guys question. Did raider io reset when m+ released? I barely did any m+ in bfa so idk if I have a low score compared to everyone else or if everything reset

[@darkstarsean]

Each season comes with a reset on raider i.o. score

[@tu_arandano]

What is the name of the add on you use for the mob name plates?

[@Kleinuhhh]

Kui nameplates

[@holdintheaces7468]

There's a bug in NW that causes that extra pack to show up and it will follow you around and teleport and shit.

[@jorges261]

Coming back from a 2yr break....and this is what i gotta look forward too 😆

[@Skweril88]

Does anyone know which Weakaura Growl is using to track the parties defensive cooldowns? I've checked out his UI video and the link is broken. I tried Zentracker but it tracks all cooldowns, I'm looking for just the parties Defensive cooldowns. Thanks!

[@brentdomikaitis1341]

I think that’s Omni CD

[@aleph-tav]

Does anyone know what WA he uses for the interrupts tracker at the top right?

[@Asaplane]

Relatable content right here

[@jonathanhughes8679]

I want a knew role added. A weaver role. It would be an enhancement/buff class. I have an idea for 2. I call them weaver because they would weave buffs and abilities together, a bard weaves songs and enhancement would Will sutras. Example. The enhancement would have a spec called (time) weak name yes. But here’s what it would do. The sutras would be used between 3 back and forth, you enhance spells with light, darkness, wood, earth, fire. But it’s spells would do things like (parallel time) this would make everyone’s next hot and Dot double it’s self from two timelines coming together, something else like (time skip) next 3 spells or abilities skip global cool down. Those go on while you weave and as those will add small things to everyone plus enhance spells. Light weaving every 3 sec a bubble heal goes out cutting dmg in half, same time enhance the healers spells to Carry a hot holy heal (be weak) just an example. Been trying to find something better than Trinity please lol. The BOX!

[@jonathannoble7657]

Funny thing is UH dk will be in frosts position next week after the mastery nerf.

[@armoredmarmot]

For anyone who want´s to feel better here is my Best of PUGS after 12 Hours Pugging nonstop. De other Side +10. Joined a 4 man premade guild group. Smooth run until Manastorms .4 Wipes after no one interrupts the mechanics of either the two. Afterwards in chat "Sorry first time De other Side for all of us". --> 15 Minutes depleted with everyone beeing 190+. 6 Runs Mists one after another. All 6 runs someone leaves after one wipe (Keys always 9-10) Spires 4 runs depleted because the last boss could not be hit with the spear. Spear dealt dmg but the boss stayed in Phase. +7 Necrotic Wake. Hunter in group 188 equipped overall 0.9k dps 21 Deaths, key depleted. Hunter got ring, conduit and the Mount and left the group with the sentence "Damn this dungeon was kinda hard would have been mad if i didnt got anything" So what was my gain in 12 Hours? My ilvl increased from 186.7 to 187.1. I can say I am a little bit frustrated.

[@maddy02_]

The loot change is the biggest mistake they made so far.

[@kittycat4378]

@Ducky1521 It feels unrewarding and challenging (but not in a good way) to do content. I've had so many people in my guild trying to prep for raiding out every day spamming keys all day and getting absolutely nothing. It feels like shit to spend hours doing content without some kind of reward. And 35 anima is just a slap in the face.

[@s0515033]

@Ducky1521 Rare loot is bad. Really bad. Leads to wasted time for a lot of effort/time invested. If you don't get gear, you are SOL and fall behind those who do, meaning your relative performance falls and you struggle to either get into content or compete with peers. This leads to benching and burnout. The gear is not more meaningful being rare. Loot tables are huge and bloated with trash still. You can still get dupes and slots for your legendary. So when you finally get a piece of gear, it feels no better. It just hobbles your ability to progress. As second, third week grind on, the gear level required to do anything increases significantly and you aren't part of that clique if you got your meaningful zero loot. This also puts you behind the curve on IO score grinding.

[@fycfyc1]

@Never Gonnatell Mythic+ has been the worst invention in wow wouldn't mind if it dies.

[@davidw789]

This is hilarious and the tank deserved it

[@Fohnzii]

This is actually hilarious

[@jessicayates87]

Damn I am glad I don't have to pug keys xD

[@Kikeron]

You prefer Venthyr to Kyrian on your disc priest? how so?