Will Robots Take Our Jobs?

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Fw:Thinking

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@alecat1998
@alecat1998 9 жыл бұрын
You say that automation could kill the concept of money... But we cannot get rid of it until everything is automated... And to get absolutely everything automated in every country worldwide could take ages... And who would be the first person to "give up" their money? Humans are greedy... They don't want to do that.
@ChrisLeeW00
@ChrisLeeW00 9 жыл бұрын
This is a big reason I keep saying our schools are failing us by not teaching programming.
@Optimistas777
@Optimistas777 9 жыл бұрын
Programming is largely an individual endeavor
@ericsaullb
@ericsaullb 9 жыл бұрын
Christopher wootton Im a computer engineer and if you are wondering it, yea most of what I know I've lerned it by my own do if you want it, just open a book, its free on google ;)
@ericsaullb
@ericsaullb 9 жыл бұрын
***** thats not gonna to work, in my country education to university level its free and only 2% of a generation gets graduated, and believe me its not the school fault because its educational level its very good, the fault its of the own people, most of the people dont like to study, thats a fact
@ericsaullb
@ericsaullb 9 жыл бұрын
***** thats an interesting point, i've always have thinked that there is no point to teach to the children about that big river he will forget its name next year (to be fair, no one remembers anything about the subjects that we dont care latter when we grow up or we would know the name of almost every river in America on my case) so i think the best way of education is some how real life stuff, like economics or some basics on how laws work, things that we all use on our every day life that almost everyone learns by the hard way, loosing money and getting issued which is not the best way if you ask me...
@ericsaullb
@ericsaullb 9 жыл бұрын
***** i agree with you, its a guide more than conventional teach, and as you say without being an hypocrite
@MetsuryuVids
@MetsuryuVids 9 жыл бұрын
>There's some human institutions that we may have to prepare ourselves to let go of -- >Paying people for work -- We have to find something new to replace it. Exactly. That's why we need a #basicincome . If you don't know what it is, please read about it, or watch some videos. www.reddit.com/r/basicincome/wiki/index
@JoyfullJuneBugg
@JoyfullJuneBugg 9 жыл бұрын
Metsuryu Thanks for the link never heard of basic income before today.
@chomu_png
@chomu_png 7 жыл бұрын
Metsuryu what you're saying people should be payed after they work-->bots are going to do all our work in the future--> but since we like green paper we still need money universal income is useless whats the point of being paid if nobody works. just give everyone unlimited money and it wouldn't make a difference
@MetsuryuVids
@MetsuryuVids 7 жыл бұрын
@Af ter We need money because they are useful in the current economic paradigm, and in any potential economic paradigm that is likely in the near/mid-term future. Not every job is going to be automated, at least not for a long time, but in the meantime, a lot of jobs are going to be automated, enough that it would be a problem not to address it. In a true "post-scarcity" economy we won't have any need for money, but since there is a finite amount of resources, that is probably very far away at least at the moment, maybe it will be possible post-singularity, but not anytime soon. How is unlimited money going to work with finite resources? What if I want to buy all the food with my unlimited money, and leave nothing for everyone else? Or are you suggesting laws or something else to limit how much you can "buy" with the unlimited money? Then what's the point of having unlimited money if you're going to limit the acquiring capacity in some other way? Why not do it with the system we already have and works well (money)?
@ScorchedEarthRevenge
@ScorchedEarthRevenge 9 жыл бұрын
My job is researching machine learning techniques. I'll be one of the last to go after my software has taken all of your jobs.
@MetsuryuVids
@MetsuryuVids 9 жыл бұрын
2LegHumanist Yep. After general AI becomes a thing, we won't need to work anymore at all.
@alexvinson7373
@alexvinson7373 9 жыл бұрын
2LegHumanist I've been replacing AI researchers for decades with simple shell scripts. Do not piss off your System Administrators.
@tahilaci2976
@tahilaci2976 9 жыл бұрын
Metsuryu With the generous benefit system in first world countries you haven't needed to work for decades. Yet most people still work, not because they have to in order to survive, but to have *more wealth than other people*. Since there's no poverty in first world countries, people complain about inequality. That will never change.
@ScorchedEarthRevenge
@ScorchedEarthRevenge 9 жыл бұрын
Alex Vinson I won't piss off the bin man either, through fear of repercussions in my bin service. Doesn't make him my equal. Also, there is great work going on in anomaly detection designed to do much of the job of the sysadmin. The sysadmin's days are numbered.
@MetsuryuVids
@MetsuryuVids 9 жыл бұрын
tahi laci In my country there is no welfare, so if you don't have a job, you're pretty much fucked.
@ra6865
@ra6865 8 жыл бұрын
No one wants a job, but most people want to learn stuff and be productive. We have to accept machines, beacuse the tasks you can learn in 3 years will the machine learn over night. It does that by observing pros in ever feild and based on miljons and miljopns of observations it will become much much more flexibale then us. So i say lets do everything we can for a future with machines.
@matiasjensen1974
@matiasjensen1974 9 жыл бұрын
I seriously love this Channel. I am only in the Teens so i Would love to see the jobs available when i can get a job.
@henrikvanpeet6167
@henrikvanpeet6167 9 жыл бұрын
matias jensen Same here, I have a problem.. I'm not very creative.. XD But I might be the one to code the robots and tell them what to do, which would be super cool! I can't wait to see what the future brings.. as long as it's good. ;)
@Darisha123
@Darisha123 9 жыл бұрын
Joshua Wentzell pilots just as taxi drivers will be autonomous in the future, at least if we are talking about commercial flights, its much safer and cheaper, so i guess it will be hard for many fields of work :/ Taxi drivers in the next 10 years, but Pilots maybe in the next 20? years
@PunkSolar22x
@PunkSolar22x 9 жыл бұрын
matias jensen lets all hope you enter into a world where you don't have to work like we do today. Where most people are in debts due to college and other hardships. Also as a father myself its hard to choose between Working and Children. I personally can't wait for Automation so people like you have a chance to actually be in your children life and focus on what actually matters to YOU instead of some corporation who's worried about their bottom line. A world that will free you to be creative without Monetary concerns
@KnightRaymund
@KnightRaymund 9 жыл бұрын
One problem is that for some people the low skill work is all they can really do. High skilled jobs are great if you're smart and educated enough but some just aren't or can't.
@elizabethcharles5011
@elizabethcharles5011 9 жыл бұрын
KnightRaymund You are right. Now as callous as this may sound, if you look at it from an objective viewpoint, the older, less technologically-advance generation or people will die out and be replaced by their younger, more [technologically] sophisticated counterparts. This cycle will continue and soon the general educational quotient will rise.
@emanuelb.2559
@emanuelb.2559 9 жыл бұрын
+Elizabeth Charles yes, but what about the present people 10 years from now, 35-45 years old workers, suicide? unemployment? we can't be all computer programmers and youtubers
@willdehne1
@willdehne1 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO distribution of wealth is the challenge and not displacement by AI, automation or mechanisation. There is plenty of work assisting people just it pays poorly.
@h4rdkn0x
@h4rdkn0x 9 жыл бұрын
I automate software deployment and updates for a living. Its been my experience most people in IT hate automation because they are afraid that it will replace them, what they don't realize is that most of the automation we have today is actually to make our work easier.
@Vini-BR
@Vini-BR 9 жыл бұрын
Cookies for Jon now. I'm giving it a like. I'm one of those annoying guys who now and then pop into the internet saying: "Get over that, we don't need to even ever work, machines will do stuff, let's make our politics fit into that, unemployment is a good thing, post-scarcity society yeah, there's no point talking about the future of the monetary system because there's none, nor there's future for offices, bla bla bla" I'm still firmly sticking to these ideals, but in a more eloquent and elegant way. And I'm so happy to see you talking about it apparently more and more often. Because this discussion is urgent.
@alexvinson7373
@alexvinson7373 9 жыл бұрын
This has long been discussed. I'm leaning toward the Libertarian ideas of the 1950's, specifically "guaranteed income". It also has the advantage of eliminating the need for many of the existing social programs. One of the downsides is the need for universal healthcare. I.E.. you get your "gauranteed income", then don't purchase health insurance. Since we as a society have decided to not let you die on the sidewalk, we all end up subsidizing those folks in addition to their gauranteed income. No bueno.
@rayyanma1608
@rayyanma1608 8 жыл бұрын
@FW: Thinking: I am not really sure, but maybe create jobs that involve making the robots hack-proof, fixing the robots, maintaining them, etc...
@TheSneezingMonkey
@TheSneezingMonkey 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think we definitely need a change in how we approach education.
@goonie79
@goonie79 8 жыл бұрын
TheSneezingMonkey the issue is there will still be only a certain number of people qualified to work in an automated future. You see a sense of education discrimination where there are more educated people than opportunities by employers. These employers will then start by selecting top candidates, since there is nothing to protect workers on employers selecting employees, only those with masters degrees will be first chosen, then ivy league, then the next best school, etc. You can see where I'm getting at here, basically to succeed you need the socioeconomic background to even pay the tuition to get a degree from a top tier school to even be recognized by employers. So 4 years at $60k a year at a ivy league or top tier university , plus a masters at $250k, do you think people will have the opportunity to find a job to cover this plus save for a home? It's not just educating people it's protecting workers from being discriminated o if they financially can not afford a ivy league education, and also masters programs need to be unbiased on loans just like bachelor's, i.e. you are guaranteed a loan no matter what socioeconomic nor credit history is.
@Neuperti
@Neuperti 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what is going on in America but here in Germany certain groups want "bedingungsloses Grundeinkommen" which is money everyone gets without having to work. I think this will be the right choice for the future. Soon jobs and maybe even money will be outdated and humanity can prepare for a better future. Politicians should stop aiming full employment with 1 dollar jobs and start adapting to the new age.
@PavelPerez
@PavelPerez 9 жыл бұрын
Forget about Financial economy and Waging jobs, think about a Resource Based Economy, like he mentions as a future without scarcity. Learn about The Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement. There's a lot in KZbin and other places.
@jimijakjones99
@jimijakjones99 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Sheetrock finisher. I can envision a robot one day, coming on to a job sight, pick up a bucket of sheetrock mud,rip off the top and down the mud into its belly. Then pick up a bucket of water and swallow it down. Have a mixer in its belly mixing the contents and then start pooping mud and tape all over the walls and then wipe it all smooth to finish of the walls.
@NeedSomeNuance
@NeedSomeNuance 9 жыл бұрын
There's also the maintenance of machines which will require human labor.
@djunior874
@djunior874 9 жыл бұрын
I highly suggest watching CGP Grey's video 'Humans Need Not Apply' on automation; it's to the point, all encompassing and thorough: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYHUXoZrapyLh7c
@thomasgill223
@thomasgill223 8 жыл бұрын
1. If you are dumb, which depending on your outlook defines a significant portion of people or most of them, you'll be SOL ( not likely to secure/ prosper in creative non-automated work, assuming any such work remains). 2. Little to no work and prosperity for all, while a possible future, depends on the willingness of the top 1% to share (as they will own the automation, and already own the decision making of legislatures) and their comfort with people being more or less equal in terms of material goods. If you are optimistic about that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you ( it was built by robots).
@fernominal
@fernominal 9 жыл бұрын
Has anyone seen the new TV series, available on AMC called; "HUMANS"?? (excuse my french;) but it's a "Bad-ass" Show!! Let's stop and look at this subject for a sec. Don't forget that new technology gets created, by a thought. All you have to do, to start a new creation is; "think of a new idea," and it will probably be created in the future, at some point in time. But, WILL the "robots" that "mankind" has created, (or will create,) become "self aware" in the future sometime? (a new type of intelligent life? just like, on the movie Terminator!) That's my question! and, how can we stop a "robot" race from taking over? What's the maximum amount of knowledge we can chew at one time? as compared to the maximum amount a robot (or computer) can store, and access. Mankind seems to be very intelligent, but really! Look Around, at the "poverty," "drug addiction" and just plain "laziness," "War," in this world these days. I'm not saying we should stop the technology from advancing. but, let's be careful here! Yes, I say we can walk alongside a future robot race. But, will they walk alongside us??!!..lol..!!
@elkoikan5993
@elkoikan5993 9 жыл бұрын
Well they do have creative robots that write music and codes for other robots. The whole stocks market is filed with robots learning new trends and writing codes to combat change.
@Zoza15
@Zoza15 9 жыл бұрын
To answer the question of this video, people need to be educated about automation and how to prepare for the transition, the mindsets need to change as well.. And learning a new perspective about not to work for money any longer and to accept that new perception.. The economy has to change drastically, yes there are a lot of things we need to let go off.. Politics will stand in the way to defend it though.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 7 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. Can't beat it, so we best join it.
@Drawerofstuff
@Drawerofstuff 9 жыл бұрын
Luckily, my dream career is creativity-based.
@speedy01247
@speedy01247 9 жыл бұрын
Don't think machines can be creative? Well the are able to surpass even human creativity in many situations. We will be either in a oligarchic plutocratic society or a democratic socialist society. Personally I would focus socialist but I have yet to make it in business, so If that changes I would rather be the leader in an authoritarian democracy then a people power democracy. That version gives far more power to the leader while allowing the people to change leaders of nessicary.
@obsideonyx7604
@obsideonyx7604 9 жыл бұрын
Drawerofstuff Dude, software can be creative, in fact, there are creative software musicians and cooks today!
@Apjooz
@Apjooz 9 жыл бұрын
Drawerofstuff What is more likely to happen before truly human like creative AI though is that someone creates a software tool with which a super creative person can do the work of 100 or a 1000 creative persons. This is how it usually happens right?
@MrNICCO89
@MrNICCO89 9 жыл бұрын
Drawerofstuff my job would be on technological unemployment.. i should be fine till the point automation will manage to talk about itself LOL
@chomu_png
@chomu_png 7 жыл бұрын
Drawerofstuff unfortunately that job will be eventually taken too
@AndiTheValkyrie
@AndiTheValkyrie 9 жыл бұрын
I think we need to realise not everyone is capable of doing more than simple labour and wonder what will become of them. I also think we need to get a better grasp of what it would mean if we would not have to work. I would like not to have to earn money, but I need a purpose in life otherwise I will dry out, and if studies to refugees unable to work because of statelessness has learned us anything, it is that people without a purpose tend to get highly depressed. I'm not against automation, but there are some issues that need to be tackled first. And I support Elon Musk in his assessment of A.I. development. But yeah, who is Elon Musk... ;)
@szigethimerse4611
@szigethimerse4611 7 жыл бұрын
i agree with you what will our purpose be if we don't have any jobs? will humanity become a race of fat slugs with pointless existance like in wall-e? if so than i'm scared of the future
@thinkcritically1990
@thinkcritically1990 7 жыл бұрын
It would take us some time to reestablish the autonomy we were born with but it would happen. My greater concern is stated above.
@Jeonsaryu
@Jeonsaryu 9 жыл бұрын
I think a good way of moving onto automation is to let current workers keep their jobs, but refuse to accept new workers. Yes, this will probably limit the opportunity of students in education, but how about setting this sort of limit in the education system first, and then in the workplace, give or take two decades of seperation? If you don't quite understand, it would sort of be like how Canada killed off the penny. Go ask CGP Grey.
@DesViper
@DesViper 9 жыл бұрын
Revamping the Education System seems like the most obvious first action to prepare for the Rise of Automations.
@MrNICCO89
@MrNICCO89 9 жыл бұрын
FW Thinking.. it could be nice to attend and then share some videos at the Voice and Exit conference in Austin
@notmike2511
@notmike2511 9 жыл бұрын
And what if all power goes out due to a solar flare? Then how are we going to survive? For the past 15-40 years we've become almost 100% dependent on technology.
@nihilisticguy4106
@nihilisticguy4106 5 жыл бұрын
I hope it takes over my job, am sick of working all together
@karenp1853
@karenp1853 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent news for creatives. Labor oriented people will serve themselves well by Getting involved with technological advancements, at least becoming familiar with them, to be prepared for progress.
@Skumtaske
@Skumtaske 9 жыл бұрын
with automated production we need to move mankind away from the concept of money
@theseproblemsmatter1
@theseproblemsmatter1 9 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That's what went through my mind after watching this. It's only making things worse and holding us back anyway
@Censtudios
@Censtudios 9 жыл бұрын
May far in the future you don't need jobs, because robots will do everything. All you have is R&R, entertainment, free time to do whatever the fuq you want. Maybe we don't even need money at that point.
@Elround4
@Elround4 9 жыл бұрын
Censtudios I wonder about how various forms of human enhancement/augmentations might be distributed in such a hypothetical future. I, for one, would rather have a future akin to segments of both Transhuman Space and Eclipse Phase opposed to in Wall-E.
@MyOnlyFarph
@MyOnlyFarph 9 жыл бұрын
Censtudios Trade for the most part, has already become obsolete. Even now, many of us don't actually need to work for a living. Most jobs have nothing to do with sustaining human or environmental health and could easily be done away with if we only focused our resources on the possibilities of automation. Unfortunately, the vested interests of society (mainly the super rich) have powerful incentives to prevent this widespread material wealth from happening. Wealth is relative, and if everyone became well-off, people wouldn't accept slave-like labor conditions or submit to social hierarchies. They would be free to... I don't know, do what they want. The elites of society certainly don't want that, although it could manifest pretty quickly if we accepted the proper direction.
@Censtudios
@Censtudios 9 жыл бұрын
MyOnlyFarph Yep true, but that's the challenge we have to overcome for us to "transcend", if you will, to a more advanced civilization. We will have to deal with a lot of people who either don't care about the rest of humanity and it's future and are actually planning for our demise. Maybe they don't realize this but yeah.
@Elround4
@Elround4 9 жыл бұрын
Censtudios What are thoughts on some ideas in Transhumanism (I'm not talking about that "Technological singularity" stuff since I don't see it as feasible and also think it undermines the actual core meaning/goal of transhumanism)? For example, what I said in my first comment here. ^^
@GuestYouTubeUser
@GuestYouTubeUser 8 жыл бұрын
Co-Worker? You'll be replaced with a robot too! 😱
@rayyanma1608
@rayyanma1608 8 жыл бұрын
Would automation increase the wealth gap? I have always wondered if this would make the class divide even worse.
@spacesim942
@spacesim942 8 жыл бұрын
It might do the opposite
@chomu_png
@chomu_png 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Yanma my opinions is that the whole wealth gap will disappear once automation has been completed whats the point of money if nobody works? this could result in the extinction of the concept of wealth
@spacesim942
@spacesim942 7 жыл бұрын
Af ter that's exactly what I've been thinking
@thinkcritically1990
@thinkcritically1990 7 жыл бұрын
After automation or the potential extermination? Robot dogs that run 30 miles an hour over broken ground why? That's not even future, its just not large scale.
@synonymous1079
@synonymous1079 9 жыл бұрын
I think we will still have a money system because someone who owns some robots can employ them and make money off of them. But that same employer might hire workers (human) to think of better and more innovative designs for their product. And if your an artist, you can make money through your work and not need any robots at all. So I don't think money will completely vanish, at least not for an extremely long time when robots are as creative as us (if that ever happens).
@nappman1999
@nappman1999 9 жыл бұрын
As a 15 year old I have prepared my life ambitions keeping in mind the fact that their will be less jobs done by humans, that's why I'm in Computer Graphics, and Film
@emanuelb.2559
@emanuelb.2559 9 жыл бұрын
yes, yes, we could have artistic and creative jobs, but what happen with the vast majority of people working today? adults or older people with menial jobs? unemployment? suicide? I love technology but I have those questions
@caseyczarnomski8054
@caseyczarnomski8054 9 жыл бұрын
We need to implement a basic income to provide purchase power during the transition. Also, keep in mind advanced AI will be here in 20-30 years, so all the creative thinkers in the world won't even be close to what it can do. People need to work on solving our moral issues and find a common ground.
@Skylos
@Skylos 9 жыл бұрын
Well when you think about it, If i invent a new robot that can do a certain task to a certain extent, then humans will evolve more and we will create new tasks that the current robots can't do because it is too complicated for them. I doubt robots will evolve faster than us humans will evolve
@ЕлнарМурат
@ЕлнарМурат 9 жыл бұрын
I need to the project.
@elizabethcharles5011
@elizabethcharles5011 9 жыл бұрын
It's really unfortunate people don't accept the changing of times. Once at school, a teacher of mine showed the us a short documentary about automation and robots replacing human labor. The students were horrified[!] by the idea. The speaker was disgustingly bias, and my teacher further stigmatized the subject by having a class discussion which discouraged talking about the positive aspects of automation and etc. The reception of everyone was painfully ironic considering we were science and technology orientated school. :( The question is no longer whether robots would take over our jobs, but at what rate and when--- which the answer is *now*.
@kms50549
@kms50549 9 жыл бұрын
+Elizabeth Charles The reason people have a natural bad reaction to robots replacing Human Labour is due to the system in which we currently live. In a capitalist society people who don't own capital ( The Proletariat) have always been able to trade labour for capital, if their labour is no longer valued then they will no longer have access to capital and will become increasingly poor with no means of attaining wealth as the only access to wealth will be via the investment of owned capital. This means that an ever increasing proportion of wealth will go to the wealthy elites (bourgeoisie) which is already a trend we are seeing. Eventually once effective security and war machines are created the bourgeoisie will try to eradicate the proletariat as the ever increasing population ( probably 15-20billion by that point) will cause a strain on the planets finite resources.
@PCProphecy
@PCProphecy 9 жыл бұрын
I don't like the idea, but I'll just take a step into the idea of machines taking our jobs. What's left for humans is "Space Exploration" and the finding of habitable planets.
@JokerReaperComedy
@JokerReaperComedy 9 жыл бұрын
And that's why I'm learning to become a web master.
@network_king
@network_king 9 жыл бұрын
I'm going into I.T if computers can't talk to the robots that they need to control that idea is dead. It would be incredibly hard if not impossible to entirely automate I.T. 100%. I would agree with the work thing. I have had classes you do a bunch of basically busy work. Maybe I learned a little from it, but some English and math assignments to me are like that. I was doing my I.T training program in college we had some pretty interesting projects like say one of the buildings on campus is top secret we need to make a physical security strategy. The teacher then had us present and one team would try and attack the others strategy. I actually wanted to put chain link on phone poles around the building teammates were like that's nuts. The attacking team then drove right over our new fence and tried to blow up the building and get in an air vent. Their strategy still failed, but I had some creative (crazy) idea and there was no budget criteria yet they wanted to eliminate it so I was like okay. Some hypothetical real world type projects are nice, but when you start working for people there is an entire 2nd can of worms involved. Politics, $, tax stuff, rules, regulations, inheriting lousy work from other people, getting bids and quotes for stuff.
@7marquism
@7marquism 9 жыл бұрын
Well said. My mind is at this level. I hope society reaches here sooner than later. It is inevitable, but hopefully it will come without a series of mayhem.
@Vini-BR
@Vini-BR 9 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone still talk about the future having in mind jobs are "desirable"? I, for instance, don't want that. I don't want to be "productive". I don't want to be a tool. I don't want to serve a purpose, I'm human, I am living. I'm all it matters, I'm all about it. So is everyone. All the things we inquire "what purpose they serve" are ultimately serving us. We don't have to need to serve a purpose. The meaning of life is living. We're apparently on the verge of a fascinating future packed with more and more autonomous machines. Still, we're talking about having a job guaranteed in the future??? "Don't worry, there'll probably be new creative jobs" (??!!) We should be now wondering whether there'll be enough products and services, that we ultimately need (not money that "provides" us with that; not jobs that provides us with money). Fuck money, fuck jobs. Let's just desire to live well and to enjoy technology as it can provide us with the best, shall we? The current form of politics and market system definitely don't fit anymore. That should change, "jobs" is not something that we ought to fight to remain constant for the whole ever.
@danielbrowniel
@danielbrowniel 9 жыл бұрын
I sure hope so.
@Epoch11
@Epoch11 9 жыл бұрын
This is going to be the biggest and most painful transition in human history. Once machines are doing all the driving, all the manufacturing and most likely even much of the complex but menial tasks, human beings will become obsolete. The people who own all of this infrastructure will then be in a position to completely control all that happens as well as the lives of the rest of humanity. You might say we will not allow this and people will rise up, but this is the reason we have a police force; to prevent those with things form having those things taken away by those who have less. If you think that police will be on the side of the larger population and fight along with them you perhaps fail to see that much of the policing itself will be done by machines as well. None of this will happen instantly, but it will happen and it will be a bleak future for about 99% to 85% of the population. We are heading towards a seismic shift in the way we live and for the most part this is going to be a difficult time for most people. The population will need to be culled in order for this sort of society to work.
@Epoch11
@Epoch11 9 жыл бұрын
I think we are ill prepared for this type of world. There are people who say that we will all get better and more fulfilling jobs in the future, but this is frankly just a fantasy. Most jobs that require a high level of education are far fewer than those which need people to perform physical tasks. There will just not be enough jobs for everyone and many people will end up without a means to support themselves. I have a feeling the government will step in and give those people tiny amounts of money on which to get by leading to a class of super wealthy and a class of super poor. These fears are not unfounded, because it is happening already. The problem now is that the level of technology requires vast amounts of knowledge to work with that most people are not intelligent enough to master. There are people who have been gifted with this ability and there will be a survival of the fittest situation when it comes to intelligence in the near future. We have opened up a Pandora's Box that we can not close, but the question is what we do with what we find inside this box.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 9 жыл бұрын
And yet you fail to realize that we are many, the police are in the thousands against millions of people. So we will stop them.
@jakemitchell2689
@jakemitchell2689 9 жыл бұрын
+Mark G not entirely true because the technology at the same time as being advanced is going to become DEMOCRATIZED- taking that exclusive power that corporations had and putting into the hands of everyday individuals. Corporations are sweating because technology is putting everyone on the same playing field enough for nobody college kids to crowdfund an idea or make an app and completely replace/destroy/create an industry: Uber, AirBnB, and Instagram are examples. In fact it's getting so crazy that it's projected in 10 years 40% of the top fortune 500 companies will have been replaced and the ones to replace them haven't been conceived yet. For example: 3D printers are going to democratize manufacturing to anyone that wants anything. The internet has democratized education and information. Google will soon democratize WiFi as they are amassing a myriad of satellite blimps to make free global internet. A.I. will democratize medical health (as WATSON a free outsourced A.I. will soon be able to be on any smartphone and has proved to be better than a team of 12 board certified doctors) All resources can also be democratized because physicists are working on technology that can restructure atoms into any material, giving an individual to create food, metal, gold, any resource out of any other material such as dirt, glass, plants, plastic, etc...
@thinkcritically1990
@thinkcritically1990 7 жыл бұрын
Two words...search algorythm..that democracy isnt
@Numenor76
@Numenor76 9 жыл бұрын
Well, i would suggest: "Robots Will Steal Your Job, But That's OK: How to Survive the Economic Collapse and Be Happy" by Federico Pistono.
@PunkSolar22x
@PunkSolar22x 9 жыл бұрын
Its doesn't have to be hard for anyone in the transition. We all must agree that Housing, Food, Clothing,Medical, Education Are human rights. Transitions don't need to be hard if egos of old concepts like money don't stand in the way. Those older people who take about sweat of brows old concepts that no longer apply to our would. Our sweat come from our creativity and our ability to solve the major issue we have and finally be able to live our lives to the fully instead of living the lives that MONEY has force us to live.
@Pac0Master
@Pac0Master 9 жыл бұрын
The only good plan against an economy crisis I can think of is a Social aid system where people who get replaced by machines can get a small amount of money provided by the government from taxes. they could live and train for a new type of job. It's very important that everyone have access to a small amount of money even if they don't works. They have to spend their money somewhere to run the economy. It's either that or we destroy Money all together and makes everything free. But making everything free raise more problem. Who want to works when they can afford everything?
@KungFuChess
@KungFuChess 9 жыл бұрын
Basic Income.... Sweden is already voting on it in 2016!
@ilmathebookworm2417
@ilmathebookworm2417 7 жыл бұрын
you helped me so much
@randychouni4267
@randychouni4267 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@nink1239
@nink1239 7 жыл бұрын
one place I don't see robots taking lobs is in the construction field.
@Bella_Rei
@Bella_Rei 8 жыл бұрын
I'm confused as to why Toyota is funding videos that are basically promoting the idea of a basic income. I mean, I agree with it, but just i feel like there's something else at work here...
@movieguy992
@movieguy992 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can think of is that they realize eventually we wont have the money to buy the cars so they have to find some way to get us the money.
@willbrine1404
@willbrine1404 9 жыл бұрын
If I buy and maintain a robot that takes my job, and the jobs of two of my coworkers, can I then collect those salaries? If not, why not?
@vinamra23
@vinamra23 9 жыл бұрын
***** you can but why will the employer will hire you then, he will just maintain his own robots and have higher profits. Taking your cut as profit :P
@MetsuryuVids
@MetsuryuVids 9 жыл бұрын
***** If you can buy the robot, your employer probably also can do that. The only reason they would pay you instead of buying a robot of their own, is if you rent your robot to them at a convenient price.
@alexvinson7373
@alexvinson7373 9 жыл бұрын
***** Absolutely! You just have to own the company.
@commandersprocket
@commandersprocket 9 жыл бұрын
***** Because your employer will buy those robots, not you. And his competition will buy robots to replace their workers. They'll all be forced to drop their prices, the product you're involved in making will become cheaper. This will create deflationary pressure on the economy.
@amanwithnoname6687
@amanwithnoname6687 8 жыл бұрын
What about people who aren't creative who are good at productivity, a lot of people are going to get screwed when this robotic revolution comes about in my generation and boy are we going to be pissed.
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 8 жыл бұрын
Why? You won't have to work any more.
@cassielong2996
@cassielong2996 8 жыл бұрын
+Noah Williams we won't be able to make money for our families we won't be able to buy the things we want and need
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 8 жыл бұрын
Cassie Long Then we'll move away from using capitalism. It's really that simple.
@knowledge3688
@knowledge3688 7 жыл бұрын
Gambling thingy is already a thing. Most gambling sites are made so you lose most of your money or just plainly put; all of your money.
@DesViper
@DesViper 9 жыл бұрын
This idea of a post-scarcity economy is just ridiculous! There're only so many atoms of any given type in the world, we can't build limitless cars, buildings, or automations ;) There're also only 24-ish hours in a day, on earth.
@tahilaci2976
@tahilaci2976 9 жыл бұрын
Answer: The age of accelerated automation has come decades ago, so we will need to do more of the same things as we are doing today.
@tahilaci2976
@tahilaci2976 9 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Smith Why?
@WhyDoesMyCodeNotCompile
@WhyDoesMyCodeNotCompile 9 жыл бұрын
tahi laci because once machines replace the need for human muscle AND human brainpower, there will be no field of work left, that humans could do better than machines, and if by then we still have the same kind of capitalism as today, humans will become unemployable
@tahilaci2976
@tahilaci2976 9 жыл бұрын
Django Al-Hambra You can see what happens in that case. Just look at empires in the past (like Rome) where the citizens didn't need to do any of the work, yet they still managed to share the wealth between them. The same thing happens when you replace the slaves with machines. There's no reason for the humans not to take any of the fruits of their labor. If machines did all the necessary jobs, the jobs for humans would remain competing with others (like sports) dealing with politics, or just improving themselves in dating.
@fanzeldadaniel
@fanzeldadaniel 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome, just like a Star trek way of socially and economically organizing the world.
@ЕлнарМурат
@ЕлнарМурат 9 жыл бұрын
What's your name?
@atlastobin7837
@atlastobin7837 7 жыл бұрын
They will, there no way we can create jobs for 7.5 billion people, we will live on basic incomes and we will do art design and have a break.
@Muyfeochris
@Muyfeochris 9 жыл бұрын
If you look at the most successful people in the world they got up off there butts and did something but if everything is provided how are kids or people in general are going to think of something creative if everything is being provided there entire lives
@Unboundedominion
@Unboundedominion 9 жыл бұрын
Robots take human jobs? Negative ghost-rider. What to do to prepare for the automation phase-in? You will use technology as augmentation to take on more responsibilities. Why? From an employer perspective, with the introduction of technologies like the fax, copier machine and printer, work wasn't diminish for more creative time. If anything, that extra time was schedule to execute more taskings or job requests rather than waiting on sparks of creativity. In the meanwhile to bridge that gap of amazing future, I will ask more of my employees. They will move around in exo-skeletons without the excuse of not physically being able to and they will have smart devices to get right answer, check procedures, gather information faster, help narrow down choices and make very employee a force multiplier. If I'm a jerk, call it. But I can't wait my life on the awesome future of abundance (I'd REALLY like to be in it). For now, I've got to live and see if I can help with the process. Maybe someone knows the answer or maybe we have to just put hard work behind all we do. Ignore my ramblings.
@Elround4
@Elround4 9 жыл бұрын
Unboundedominion Well said. All technology should augment human action. ^_^
@Unboundedominion
@Unboundedominion 9 жыл бұрын
Elround4 I bet there will some type of discrimination or hatred that will come with all this advancement and augmentation. Frack! I just want to live in the ideal future. Can only hope to bring down debt and other stuff not to pass on the next generation in the future. Otherwise it'll never happen.
@gavrielpapas773
@gavrielpapas773 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Fw:! I like your videos, but please try not to use white background, because it hurts my eyes.
@tenzackyogi1742
@tenzackyogi1742 8 жыл бұрын
Being unemployed, it hurts so bad. IA robots domination will be soon.
@Ectofish
@Ectofish 8 жыл бұрын
I want to live in that kind of world
@CloroxWipes
@CloroxWipes 8 жыл бұрын
Charlie Gandy same
@jameswhite3415
@jameswhite3415 9 жыл бұрын
We need to change our education systems. Instead of productivity we need to pronote creativity. If yoy think we will still have an increase in jobs ask a horse how many horse still have jobs. The data show we are going to lose jobs to automation rapidly. With many ivy league experts estimating as high as 49% job displacement by 2030
@LuckyKieran
@LuckyKieran 9 жыл бұрын
As strange as it sounds I think that a perfect world where machines do everything would be boring.
@GuestYouTubeUser
@GuestYouTubeUser 8 жыл бұрын
How will mankind make money? How will companies sell products, if no humans will have money to buy them?
@TheWalf999
@TheWalf999 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I'm thinking as well, if robots and machines took all of our jobs then what else can we do? we won't even have the money to buy products and such.
@spacesim942
@spacesim942 8 жыл бұрын
Universal basic income
@a.s.3971
@a.s.3971 9 жыл бұрын
We don't need to do any the thing to prepare for the future ....................... ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• They'll do it for us...............................
@keith2235
@keith2235 9 жыл бұрын
More taxes and more efforts to help the less fortunate. COMPLETELY eliminate the need for people to work. Free food, free housing, and free education.
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 9 жыл бұрын
Automation taking away jobs from real people will never be a purely good thing until we become a post-scarcity society. Don't get me wrong though a privately owned free market economy coupled with a constitutional representative republic government is the best societal structure we have come up with so far. Especially considering how fast it developed, spread and has been successful across the whole world compared to all other forms. In order for there to be absolutely no poverty, no conflict, no strife or suffering of the masses on a societal level we will have to change our very nature as human beings. Also with this change (if we could ever manage it before we destroy ourselves) would come a fundamental change in how we act, govern, and interact with each other. It's going to be long, difficult, and with MUCH resistance. I have hope though. If we don't lose ourselves to apathy or hedonism in the process that is. GOOD LUCK US!
@SuperClavera
@SuperClavera 9 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will replace our workforce. The only thing we grownups need anyway is a more advanced kindergarten.
@Justwantahover
@Justwantahover 6 жыл бұрын
SPACE ROBOTS Spend more money on developing construction techniques by robots like (for instance) self-driving excavators etc. (and of course all other types of tasks associated with construction). I realise IT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW but if they can pull it off on earth, they could maybe send robots to the moon and beyond to construct real stuff like here on earth (instead of those limited and depressing inflatable pods like with a Mars manned mission). Hold back for 20 years and develop robotics on earth, first (and it may not even take that long to make this at least feasible) and it would make us instantly a hundred years AHEAD even just a few decades after they send the first (efficient) construction robots to space. Also they could build (proper) space hotels this way to help pay for the projects by sending up (rich) paying customers. And as we advance the robotics even more, the sky would be the limit and eventually we could teach the robots to expand and even build more robotics in space. And those new robots could build more stuff and so-on. Of course the BIG CHALLENGE is to even be able to make robots do it, even here on earth (and this would be even more of a challenge in space). But the way robotics is advancing on earth (with driverless cars and even some extremely limited robotic construction techniques already being developed) I don't think this would be as far-fetched that it obviously seems. And imagine how much more efficient this would be instead of trying to do this with humans and the life support needed and being stuck in inflatable pods and virtually nothing else there. That enormous cost could go into other stuff rather than the bullshit needed to keep humans alive in inflatable pods. lol And eventually they could build BIG telescopes on the moon (automatically) by robots and we later come up into the airtight REAL buildings to look through the BIG telescopes.
@hai101277
@hai101277 8 жыл бұрын
Nếu như tất cả các công ty sử dụng robot dể tăng năng suất thì con người sẽ không có việc làm. Mà không có việc làm thì không có tiền dể mua sản phẩm, vậy là nền kinh tế sẽ di xuống.
@PunkSolar22x
@PunkSolar22x 9 жыл бұрын
The truth is and i know this is going to be hard for most to believe but its the truth. Human will be so much better off when robotics takes over the day to day tasks. We as human will be put in the role of created new ideas. Automation will remove the need for our current economic system meaning "Money" no longer need to exist.
@galettimusic3837
@galettimusic3837 9 жыл бұрын
Answer: Unconditional Basic Income (UBI) As someone noted earlier in a comment: socialise industries and let the people reap the fruits of AI and automation. I wonder if, one day, the Googles or Amazons of today might morph into truly public services.
@IggyTron
@IggyTron 9 жыл бұрын
Life would be pretty pointless if we didn't need to do anything...
@alexvinson7373
@alexvinson7373 9 жыл бұрын
IggyTron You can't think of anything to do except work? That's rather sad.
@IggyTron
@IggyTron 9 жыл бұрын
I mean ANYTHING, even existing, if robots could do it better then us, why should we?
@NicholasSalay
@NicholasSalay 9 жыл бұрын
IggyTron Because we enjoy it? If you don't need to do anything, you're free to do anything you want. Want to travel the world? Play sports and games? Make/invent things? Research? Or do nothing at all? Well then just do it. You don't need to have to do something in order to do it. And you don't even need to have to compete with some super robot in order to do something either. Just do what you want.
@IggyTron
@IggyTron 9 жыл бұрын
But isn't is pointless to invent something that already is invented? I understand what you mean but yeah... I'm thinking if that is the right word.
@NicholasSalay
@NicholasSalay 9 жыл бұрын
Why are you inventing something that is already invented? Unless you mean absolutely everything that can be invented has been invented. If that were the case, humanity would be as close to godlike as it can get because we would be able to do everything that can possibly done, using the all the energy we can possibly get. We've invented every single way to do it, after all. Realistically, however, that is probably going to take a bit longer than the even the large amount of time we'd need until we have this idealistic future the video is describing.
@someonenamevalencia7527
@someonenamevalencia7527 8 жыл бұрын
I more worry that when we have robots we are gonna be Hella bored especially me I want to a be a business man .-. SO WTF DO I DO THEN
@thestrainreview9302
@thestrainreview9302 9 жыл бұрын
U are so right and I'm a robs scientist sooooooo
@manlyastronaut6984
@manlyastronaut6984 9 жыл бұрын
Should should make a video on the mining of the asteroids!!!! btw, I'am 100% for an automated future!!!
@angelcolantuono3992
@angelcolantuono3992 7 жыл бұрын
Welp I work at a warehouse so there goes my job looks like one more person in the united states on food stamp lol.
@thehayman7352
@thehayman7352 7 жыл бұрын
It can't take over the vast majority of jobs for reason. The cycle. Our goals is to make profit, and one of the ways we do to do that is hire robots. But that takes away a consumer. If they take away all jobs from humans they will take away all consumers. You see what I'm getting at"
@pigofapilot1
@pigofapilot1 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. You are talking about supply and demand. Capitalism is based on a balance of supply (the producer) and demand (the consumer). These are inverse economic forces and if demand declines so does supply. If supply rises and demand declines we have an economic crash on a global scale. In other words, if robots take over supply then there cannot be an economic system of supply and demand and no profit or capitalism. The economic system would just stop turning. In any event, the laws of entropy demand that all material must revert to a state of inert activity (even robots). Without human intervention they would quickly become extinct.
@ValerianTexeira
@ValerianTexeira 8 жыл бұрын
What automation will do to worlds economy? What we need to do is a Scientific Approach to deal with this situation and the historical perspective of this situation. Read the following article: Artificial Intelligence ROBOTS Make Human-Labor REDUNDANT Part-I IF the current trend of Technological advancement in the field of AI (Deep-Learning etc.) continues at such an ‘exponential’ rate that we are witnessing today, almost all the well-paid, professional White-Collar jobs, which require high intellectual skills of the human brain will become easily replaceable with lower cost, as early as the year 2020. Nevertheless, those professionals need not worry, most of their employments retained, not because of the creation of new job opportunities but mainly because of the corporate capitalist strategic interest and for the political reasons especially to buy the AI’s acceptance in the society. The professionals will be kept in a supervisory role to the AI Bots. However the industry will not need so many of them, these people will be offered long and well-paid vacations etc., to keep their community happy and satisfied. In a similar way, most of the Blue-Collar jobs will remain stagnant in the employment market, not because the AI Robots cannot replace them but simply because the entrepreneurs/employers will find that the manual workers are cheaper than employing Robots. They can perform the rugged work like the beast of burden of the olden days because of their overall convenience. Very same will happen with the low-paid White-Collar jobs, in the service sector. By the way, more people will be lifted out of their poverty lines. The middle-class numbers joined by the labouring class swell out of proportion. As the result of the overall Technological progress, which includes Bio, Nano, renewable energy etc., the productivity of the key goods and services industry tremendously increase. There will be plenty of goods for everyone. The average middle-class families can very much afford to buy all their needs, comforts, even luxuries as it will remain well within their reach. The businessmen corporate houses, conglomerates get super wealthy that they try to buy and control everything including the world Governments, public opinion. They have already established total control over the Mass Media, Cables, Satellites, particularly in the entertainment industry. Movies, Sitcoms, Sports, Gaming, Augmented, Virtual-Realities. It will keep the majority population totally preoccupied, captivated and thoroughly brainwashed. However, there will be a marked increase in the TERROR ATTACKS or incidents. The news media totally geared to hype the news and keep it at the top on their agenda, constantly preaching people about the virtues of Democracy, peoples voting power against the fundamentalist , extremist, anarchist, rapists. It will keep away people’s attention from the real great challenges ahead, the mass unemployment, underemployment that the middle class and their children are facing at this very historical juncture. Along with the steady world economic, GDP growth, there will be widening income gap between the shrinking minority rich and the growing majority middle class. Disparity in wealth, inequality in the income distribution will be far greater than anything seen in the past human history. The Marxian Working Class, “labor-power” is already stripped out of all its past glory and historical significance. People calling for redistribution of wealth, will be shunned as a socialist or communist propaganda to be ridiculed and socially ostracized. Masses will be constantly reminded about the virtues of entrepreneurship, asked to retrain themselves for the new job market to avoid demanding unemployment (social security) benefits, saying; worker without job lose their self-dignity, identity! People demanding lesser working days, equated to becoming idle, a breeding ground for all kinds of evil. Let me go back to the starting headlines of this paper. Today’s raging debate among AI, social scientists and other professional community including the social media acknowledging the extraordinary advancement taking place in the AI technology particularly the introduction Deep-learning etc. Robots are entering into all human employment spheres. People who oppose the highly advanced AI technology, say that the Robots rapidly replacing almost every human jobs. It will result in mass unemployment unprecedented in the past human history. Therefore they argue that the Government should bring regulation on this technology, stall its progress, if not to ban it. On the other hand, the supporters of the AI claim that, like in the past industrial history, it will create new jobs. Therefore people need not fear, neither call to regulate the AI advancement, in any such way. I find both their argument quite naive and misleading as they both lack the historical human-labor perspective. Of course, the fear of the people, about the Robots, which are rapidly replacing even the professional high intelligent brain skill jobs quite genuine. However they, completely forget, history has proven again and again that one cannot stop the development of technology if the society wants to progress into a better future. On the other hand, people who vehemently deny the fact about the Robots rendering the human labor redundant, completely lack the new future world vision. Instead, they vociferously argue like the old way, that the coming industries will create new jobs replacing the old ones, like in the past history. In my humble opinion, people who fear the advancement of the AI are in a “PANIC-mode” and the latter in the “DENIAL-mode” about the AI impact on the future human labor, employment and society as a whole. They completely fail to see that AI making the human-labor obsolete, in every goods, services and employment market. Therefore, there is a great need to establish a new kind of socio-economic-political system in the coming future to ensures, equal payment or income distribution for all people without them having the compulsion of labor in order to earn it. People who still like work in the social production (goods and services etc) can do so but not for any income, the rest are free to engage in their hobbies in their entire life. My book captioned “An ALTERNATIVE to Marxian Scientific Socialism - The Theory Reduction in Working Hours - A Demand 6 Hour Working Day”; was published in the year 1981. It provides the historical perspective of the working class which has transformed today as the emerging majority middle class who have no means of production of their own to sustain. The historical mission of the RWH theory is; a gradual reduction or working hours/days that finally should lead to zero or ABOLISHEN of the working day. In essence, complete extinction of the compulsion of labor on the people in order to obtain their livelihood. Equal distribution of the income, resource to all. Welcome to a TRANSHUMAN world. Copyright 2016.-Valerian Texeira PS I apologize for below the standard English writing. Subject to further revisions.
@Darisha123
@Darisha123 9 жыл бұрын
IF robots started making everything for us, and the money system we use today disappeared, leaving humans to do what they wanted, would't that reduce creativity in us? Becouse we dont have competition in the form of Jobs, today we educate to get our selves a job and on the job we compete with other coworkers for better salaries and possitions in the company. In the futre if we dont work, wont creative inovation stop? if no one has to work and can do what ever they want. Sure all this free time opens upp opportunities to be creative, but as we all know the Human spicies is lazy, we wont do anything unless we enjoy doing that or if we are foces to do it. - What do you think?
@CurtWelch
@CurtWelch 9 жыл бұрын
Since you asked, the solution we need is a Basic Income. Technology is what allows real GDP per capita to grow by 2% every year. In the US, this is a steady 200 year old trend an there's no reasons to believe robots and AI are going to change this trend. Technology does not hurt GDP. And, it won't have any substantial effect on jobs either. There will always be stuff humans can do even when the robots can also do it. The damage technology creates to society is inequality. It shifts the very fundamental makeup of the economy from one based mostly on human labor, to one based mostly on capital ownership of resources -- land, robots, energy sources. An economy based on labor is a fair game to play. No human can work more than 24 hours a day, and anyone that wants a share of the wealth, only need to trade his time to get a fair share. No one human is all that much better of a worker from another. But when the distribution of wealth is controlled not by how much time you donate, but how much you already own, the game becomes highly unfair, with all the income (GDP output), shifts into the pockets of the few. This is why in board game of Monopoly there is always only one winner -- guaranteed. It's because the game starts off as one based on equal labor everyone gets $200 for passing go and everyone on average, passes GO the same number of times. But as the game continues, income shifts from labor (passing GO), to capital based income -- collecting rent on the property you own. In time, the wealth generated by rent, swaps out the wealth crated by labor (passing GO), and the game becomes inherently unstable/unfair, and all the wealth ends up in the pocket of own player. That is the same thing technology has been doing to our economy for 200 years. Slowly and steadily we have been increasing GDP every year by adding more technology in all forms that capitalists investors can own, and make money on. But with the help of labor laws, and antitrust laws, and Unions, we have been forcing the capitalists to share that wealth with the workers. With the help of progressive income taxes, taking wealth from the capitalists, and funding free education for the workers, we have been forcing the capitalists to share with labor. All our government welfare programs are there to help offset this problem of wealth accumulating into the hands of the capitalists in a technology driven economy. But in the 80's the rich capitalists talked society into this lie about how if they could just keep more of their wealth, they would invest in capital assets, that would grow the economy, and make everyone richer. But the lie was that economy never needed any help to grow. It has been growing at 2% per year for 200 years. It grows because we are constantly inventing new technology, NOT because of investments. Investments happen automatically as they are cost justified. As it becomes cost justified to build a new hotel, the money is always there to borrow, and the hotel gets built. Investments only happen when they are economically justified, not because a rich guy at to save for it. The size of the money supply is not controlled by how much savings the rich guys have. It's controlled by the Fed, and the Fed guarantees that investment capital will always be there when it's needed (that's what regulating interest rates does). The only thing lowering taxes on the rich did, was control whose pocket the the constantly growing GDP ends up in. It just took money out of the pocket of the workers, and put it into the pockets of the capitalist investors. The more technology we add to the system, the more we drive down the value of human labor and the more we see GDP output going into the pockets of investors, and not the pocket of workers. There is no end to work that humans can do and be paid for, but there very much is a problem with how much the economy is willing to PAY for that work. The singularity is the point in time where our machines become advanced enough to do EVERY job a human can do. Even the creativity work. That's the day that human labor prices will be fully determined by the cost of the machine we are competing against. Humans can still find lots of work, but only if they are able to live on pay below what it costs the machine to do the same job. If a robot to pick up trash and sweep a store costs $4 an hour (when spread over the lifespan of the robot), then the best a human can make will be less, say $3 an hour. This creates a social problem, not an economic problem. The economy keeps growing 2% per year even if only 100 rich guys own everything. They are just just using the robots to build themselves massively expensive toys to play with and selling them to each other. Want your own personal death star to drive around the solar system and blow up planets with? Those guys can have it! But the rest of the 10 billion people are living in prisons or in poor camps. We must learn to leave the idea of a work ethic behind and replace it with a sharing ethic. We must share a percentage of the wealth being produced by capital. And that's what a Basic Income does. It taxes the economy, taking most from the rich capitalists that make their money by collecting rent, and shares with everyone evently. It redistributes from the rich to the poor. It's needed not because the poor are lazy, but because we no longer have a labor dominate economy and the capital based machine economy no longer works to bring prosperity to everyone. In the US, we should likely be sharing about 25% of the GDP as a Basic Income already today. That would give every citizens about $1000 a month in their Basic Income check, and increase taxes by 25% (less actually because many current welfare programs could be cut back or eliminated). As we get close to the singularity, and the percent of GDP going to labor declines, the percent of GDP going to the Basic Income should increase. We will always need cash as our tool for the fair allocation of economic assets, but we won't always have jobs. We need a Basic Income TODAY to offset the growing inequality that technology is creating and the growing damage it is doing to society as the anger rises between the rich and the poor and as the anger slowly turns to violence. We need it not only inside the US, we need it across the entire world. The longer we put this off, the more our society will deteriorate. If we put it off too long, we will see the world descend into WWIII as the robots rise.
@FuckFeminists
@FuckFeminists 8 жыл бұрын
+Curt Welch (TrucHclew) Wow, Ive never been so dumb in so many words. Do a word search on the frequency of the words 'would' 'could' 'should' 'must' and 'need' in your comment. And then realise, that absolutely no US or UK government has any interest in Your 'utopia'. If the machines are taking our jobs, its because the government supports that. And if it supports that, it WANTS a world war. Really, whenever I read stuff on this subject, its like youre all on heroin, living in some soft pink bubblewrap like there is any place for hypothetical discussion whatsoever! You dont need many words to write 'Kill all the robot manufacturers Now'. Thats exactly six words. And they know EXACTLY what they are doing. Thats why they developed the UCAVs and fire-and-forget missile guidance first. They are expecting us to revolt, and they have decided that theyre happy without the lower classes. What other purpose could mass automation possibly have, than to replace the lower class labor force? Making cuddly fucking bunny wabbits and wainbows for ickle kiddies baptisms?!! Heroin addicts, all of you.
@CurtWelch
@CurtWelch 8 жыл бұрын
+Stan Dando So, you are saying government will never implement a basic income? You should check your facts. Nothing you have suggested actually is consistent with reality. The state of Alaska has had a basic income since 1982. The people even forced a change in the state constitution to prevent the politicians from using the money for other expenses. If what you suggested were true, that would not be impossible. It's called the Alaska Permanent Fund. Everyone that lives in Alaska gets a free cash from the government. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund Basic Incomes have been talked about, and tested, for many decades now, and there is a recent great surge of rising interest in the idea around the world. The _GOVERNMENT_ of the Canadian Province of Ontario is putting together a Basic Income trial even now. How is that possible if the government doesn't want this to happen exactly? www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ontario-to-pilot-a-universal-basic-income-experiment-a6916571.html Finland is setting up trials: www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/12/06/finally-someone-does-something-sensible-finland-to-bring-in-a-universal-basic-income/#4f8ac0276f68 The people in switzerland got enough signatures in support of a Basic Income that the government has been forced to put the issue to a vote by the people. This is a couple of years back. But the details are being worked out: news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/switzerland-to-vote-on--2-800-monthly-%E2%80%98basic-income%E2%80%99-minimum-for-adults-181937885.html "British parliament to consider motion on universal basic income" Oh, but you say this is impossible, right? Governments can't do this? www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/universal-basic-income-british-parliament-to-consider-motion-uk-a6823211.html I could dig up another 10 current exmaples showing you are wrong. But I think I've made my point. Most modern governments are some form of democracy ruled by the people. And when the people want war, the nations go to war. When the people want a Basic INcome, the nation's implement a Basic Income. Due to advancing technology disrupting the global economy, the people will rise up and demand a Basic Income to share the wealth of the working class robots, instead of rising up and demanding more war. The revolution is already well under way. You should consider getting on board with it instead of supporting more war.
@junshin8993
@junshin8993 9 жыл бұрын
What will happen to lawyers and law enforcement?
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 9 жыл бұрын
+Jun Shin Replaced by robots obviously. The same will hopefully go for politicians, and judges.
@junshin8993
@junshin8993 9 жыл бұрын
Noah Williams No, we should not hope for that. We need to prevent that, we have the logic, the heart, we have the ability to make judgement and we have moral values. We need to fight this for as long as we can.
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 9 жыл бұрын
Jun Shin I'm hoping for that. Seriously, robots can be made to be more logical, and consistent than humans ever could. The fact of the matter is that humans have had 200,000 years to get their shit together, and they haven't. Now it's time to try a different approach for a change. I'm done dealing with incompetent humans who blatantly abuse the idea of rules and laws. Now it's time to put something in charge that doesn't bullshit us when it comes to making and following the rules.
@junshin8993
@junshin8993 9 жыл бұрын
Noah Williams We have to fight that change, we don't get rid of the problem by trying to hide it or replace it, we need to change it ourselves and strive toward the change so that humans can become better in 200,000 more years. What will robots do? Replace us entirely, homo sapiens will no longer exist later on or we will be like the dogs and the pets of the robots. Let me ensure you that there will be a human rebellion if this happens, we've dealt with tyrants taking over our freedoms before and this is no different. "Reforming" more like taking over, I've met good and bad people, the world isn't full of only bad people, we are still around because there are still good people with brains and moral values and all those good things, we are still around and not in a state of anarchy but completely change 200,000 years with a new era, robots need to just have the intelligence of a dog or a monkey and they just need to serve there purpose, no more no less. There will be a human rebellion, this isn't just fighting a new form of totalitarianism, this is fighting for the survival of the human race and humanity will prevail.I believe in the human race, we have our good side and our bad side, but I believe in the future, I believe in the past, I believe in the present, AI can never change humanity or rule it, AI will just become as corrupt and evil, no system is perfect and the AI and Robots will become just like that. Utopia is impossible, making robots sentient will only make them make our utopia. I once again state my belief in humanity and the AI Code of Law that exists. Technology right now like the AI is like the Industrial Revolution, its not going to sweep humanity aside and as long as we keep fighting, humanity will survive. I will rather die before I live in a world controlled by metal and plastic that don't have a true brain or a heart or a sense of moral values and ethics.
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 9 жыл бұрын
Jun Shin Pro tip: if you hit enter while typing a comment on google, it will let you make a new line. See: Use that to make paragraphs so I don't have to go through a huge wall of text. I didn't read all of that but part of it seemed to be about humans being "pets" for machines. -.- Seriously now these are computers we're talking about. They're exactly what we want them to be. That's kind of their thing. That's why there's so much work to make one be a human brain so we can upload our minds into them.
@blackdagger7332
@blackdagger7332 8 жыл бұрын
when robots take over all the jobs in the world i know what to do you'll get a card with it you can buy 5 regular items a day without it you're not allowed to buy anything. / when you're going to buy a lot of important stuff not 1000 packages of doritos but when you want to buy a lot of important stuff for your home that you need you'll need to sign a paper on the internet of what you want to buy and if that's verified you get a code and at the mall you give that code then if registered you're free to go with your stuff m8.
@ayrtonsanchez9027
@ayrtonsanchez9027 9 жыл бұрын
This is really cool, but what about Ai, are humain rase, Mayby think about this idea, u never know what can happen
@v4ndal441
@v4ndal441 8 жыл бұрын
jobajobbyjpbbujob. We don't fucking need jobs. we need the things produced by jobs.
@Zoza15
@Zoza15 9 жыл бұрын
Automation is good, Automation is the future.. It will break down the current economic system.. In a world were automation takes all the labor will require people to be educated in other fields. But education will not be exclusive to the younger or next generation, but for all generations alive today. Education will probably be a human right as well.. And finally the basic income system, for all people.. A conservative nightmare, something they will have to suck up. My bold predictions.
@oliviasteverson3412
@oliviasteverson3412 9 жыл бұрын
i do see more programing jobs
@admiralgoodboy
@admiralgoodboy 7 жыл бұрын
They already are
@yamasaa
@yamasaa 9 жыл бұрын
They took urr juuuuubs!
@KonradofKrakow
@KonradofKrakow 9 жыл бұрын
Mariāno Damn robot immigrants!
@yamasaa
@yamasaa 9 жыл бұрын
ConradInternational Go back to where you came from!
@paulwatson348
@paulwatson348 9 жыл бұрын
What if robots make us work for them.
@tahilaci2976
@tahilaci2976 9 жыл бұрын
The "post scarcity" world has already come in the first world countries and most people still not choose to lay back and do nothing. (most people still choose to work but with the benefit system it's optional). Even the poor*est* people in first world countries are already rich enough to satisfy all their material needs, but many people still work. The reason for that is they need *more money than other people* in order to show of and attract women. That will never change. If the "poor" people of tomorrow had private jets and swimming pools they would still complain for being poor as there's "inequality" eg other people having more jets and larger swimming pools. Besides an idle society would sooner or later be destroyed by other countries which keep developing.
@lumpuslux5144
@lumpuslux5144 9 жыл бұрын
tahi laci You know, I can personalty vouch for the "post scarcity" world, and that we currently live in it. Whale trying (and failing) to find a job for the past year, I have been living on my own and never had been short on cash. My only draw to find work, is that I want to be a game designer and need to get into collage.
@Natsukashii-Records
@Natsukashii-Records 9 жыл бұрын
Joshua Byron You probably live in N. Europe. You can't do that in the US, you don't make enough to pay rent/bills. If that was a case homeless people would absolutely 100% NOT exist.
@lumpuslux5144
@lumpuslux5144 9 жыл бұрын
i actually live in Canada, and i am vary careful with what i get
@tahilaci2976
@tahilaci2976 9 жыл бұрын
Razgrits Some homeless people would still exist even in a post scarcity world. Even with enough money to pay rent there would be people who choose to gamble, buy alcohol, cigarette, drugs etc instead. Some do that and then we call them poorer than those who spend the same money on rent. Even in a post scarcity world it would be possible that some people would not be given the available resources for some reason. (This doesn't happen in first world countries, where the benefits system is used for buying votes) Even with a generous benefits system it's possible that some people aren't aware of the money they could claim, so just never apply. In this case the resources aren't scarce, some people just don't know what to do to get them.
@Natsukashii-Records
@Natsukashii-Records 9 жыл бұрын
tahi laci Money won't exist so there won't be gamble. Post-scarcity by definition means each person will have a lot of resources available to them directly. If we kept the same economic system there would be only one word to describe humanity, and that's retarded. Also, if people are refused available resources then they won't be living in a post-scarcity world, or they are being punished for something that they did, ergo, they are in jail hence not all resources are available to them, and that's fair. Lastly, if people are too stupid to survive in a post-scarcity world where it will, in theory, be the easiest time to be a human, then that's called natural selection and frankly, we should keep it. I can't imagine anyone being that moronic that they know money doesn't exist and that people around them have all that shit and yet they never bother to ask the process of acquiring them. Won't there be an education in a post-scarcity world?
@jj_the_ent
@jj_the_ent 8 жыл бұрын
If creativity will be prized, I will be a billionaire! 🤓😊
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