Will Sansa marry Jon Snow?

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@ImOutsideTheBox
@ImOutsideTheBox 8 жыл бұрын
"it sounds pretty gross, but would that stop George Martin?" no truer words have ever been spoken before.
@Lite727
@Lite727 5 жыл бұрын
StickySprite not really they barely knew each other as children. Cat always told Sansa to stay away from him and cousins marry all the time. Robin Arryn was supposed to be promised to Sansa at one point in the show and Tywin marrried his cousin Joana who is the mother of their 3 children. It would honestly be completely fine.
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 5 жыл бұрын
SlasherPsych_2989_xXx The closest they got as children, was Jon attending a couple of etiquette lessons, I believe; Sansa may have taught him to dance & to compliment a woman on her name- it’s in his thoughts at some point... I can’t remember where exactly, but it was during his time with the Wildlings, I think. Lysa wanted Sansa to marry Robin- & Sansa’s very aware of why- given her status as a High Lords’ daughter- she thinks, ‘No one will ever love me for me’. She obviously doesn’t want to marry Robin- who’s very unlikely to grow up & look like Lino did- & Lysa’s not exactly as subtle as the Tyrells, either; she tells Sansa that she’s an orphan now, & is lucky to make such a grand match... obviously Sansa feels differently.
@humayunkabir5837
@humayunkabir5837 4 жыл бұрын
Marrying cousins still fine in modern world today. It’s still acceptable in many religions. But marrying aunt is an incest which is not acceptable in society. Marrying cousins is not incest. It’s common in my country. If the both family agrees to marry their children with each other than it’s no problem as they are not direct brother or sister so it’s not incest.
@chance79th77
@chance79th77 4 жыл бұрын
Humayun Kabir So how is marrying your cousin not incest but marrying your aunt is?
@yashfinkazmi
@yashfinkazmi 4 жыл бұрын
@@chance79th77 he's speaking from a religious point of view
@johanliebert6785
@johanliebert6785 8 жыл бұрын
the question is what will be more weird for jon: marry his cousin or marry his aunt...
@vante2840
@vante2840 7 жыл бұрын
Royles Pika loll
@madampluto3092
@madampluto3092 6 жыл бұрын
He's a Targaryen. They're naturally into incest.
@carpophorusspratacus7139
@carpophorusspratacus7139 6 жыл бұрын
MadamPluto He's also a Stark. Many Starks marry their own cousins.
@femsff7090
@femsff7090 6 жыл бұрын
Eh, why not marry both?
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 6 жыл бұрын
Fems Ff yeah polygamy is also a Targaryen thing
@zandmiller99
@zandmiller99 7 жыл бұрын
So either way, sansa is marrying Aegon Targaryen
@mariamprayoga7937
@mariamprayoga7937 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@minervali631
@minervali631 5 жыл бұрын
tyrian could also be a targaryen
@Kegyetleneper
@Kegyetleneper 5 жыл бұрын
Minerva Li nah, not anymore. That ship has sailed, now it would seem.... silly
@hollymoon21
@hollymoon21 5 жыл бұрын
That's so confusing.
@psychedelicgazelle1588
@psychedelicgazelle1588 5 жыл бұрын
I think Jon's Targaryen name in the books will be different. The show combines characters all the time, like Jon Connington and Jorah Mormont.
@tiaanengelbrecht9378
@tiaanengelbrecht9378 8 жыл бұрын
"But will that stop George Martin?" Basically every fucked up thing that happens in Game of Thrones summed up.
@martonlerant5672
@martonlerant5672 8 жыл бұрын
Well considering he planned to marry Jon to Arya this seems likely. It is just a bit less offensive, just like the changes in age around danny, makes Ser Jorah a bit less creepy.
@bardoftartarus
@bardoftartarus 8 жыл бұрын
Creepy and fucked up by modern society standards maybe, but the age differences and relationships between these characters are completely normal for that time. Also it's realistic, shit like this was more likely to happen than not to happen. (And I swear if someone says dragons aren't realistic I'll be more triggered than the bombs in the Middle East)
@aragotodragons8848
@aragotodragons8848 8 жыл бұрын
lmaooo true
@martonlerant5672
@martonlerant5672 8 жыл бұрын
Warlock Night You are completely right. But portraying the rape of 14 years old danny at her wedding night is child pornography. Its not a question of what is realistic, its the question of "will we go to jail if we do it?". From the cast its quiet clear that modern morality heavily influenced the ages of characters.
@CalamityDiamond
@CalamityDiamond 7 жыл бұрын
NAY HE WILL NOT BE STOPPED
@beachfish792
@beachfish792 8 жыл бұрын
People crying they don't want cousins together, but they're all for Jon and Dany, who are nephew and aunt 😷
@gerrymin6298
@gerrymin6298 8 жыл бұрын
jon and sansa will always be siblings. imagine this: if you have an adopted brother, would you consider him just some "random guy you're living with" or an actual sibling?
@emillonnqvist5164
@emillonnqvist5164 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the fact remains that Jon is much closer related to Dany than Sansa
@gerrymin6298
@gerrymin6298 8 жыл бұрын
Emil Lönnqvist Emotionally -no she isn't. That's the huge issue with incest- being with someone you view as your family, not just being with someone who's related to you and you don't even know about it. You could be banging your 3rd cousin's cousin without even knowing and that's considered incest too. See, Jon and Sansa are still insect and they always be
@emillonnqvist5164
@emillonnqvist5164 8 жыл бұрын
Georgia Min Not emotionally but biologically a lot more, since Danys parents and grandparents were also siblings.
@gerrymin6298
@gerrymin6298 8 жыл бұрын
Emil Lönnqvist which means there is nothing wrong with dany/jon from their house's point of view. see, my point is that the emotional and mental sibling relationship is way stronger than the biological one. who decided they should ship sansa/jon anyway? they have nothing in common?? jon/arya makes more sense although it's still disgusting
@MRFlackAttack1
@MRFlackAttack1 7 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that in the books Sansa has actually been thinking about Jon Snow unconsciously for some time. Choosing an identity as a bastard and to model her actions around how Jon would act. Not dancing because Jon didn't like to dance, being more sullen and withdrawn. Comparing people to Jon, etc.
@RUAmplified
@RUAmplified 7 жыл бұрын
MR FlackAttack F Sansa... seriously
@3Oh3metrostation
@3Oh3metrostation 5 жыл бұрын
she seemed jealous of dany in the last few episodes so this could be true...
@Kegyetleneper
@Kegyetleneper 5 жыл бұрын
Erica Peterson that was not jealousy, that was being decent
@3Oh3metrostation
@3Oh3metrostation 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kegyetleneper difference of opinion but we'll just have to wait for how the writers end the show
@Kegyetleneper
@Kegyetleneper 5 жыл бұрын
Erica Peterson don't get me wrong, I would really really love to see them together
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 7 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Ned's parents are first cousins once removed
@327Stargirl
@327Stargirl 6 жыл бұрын
Yup! There are first cousin marriages in almost all the major houses of Westeros and isn't looked down upon.
@pjfsr7024
@pjfsr7024 4 жыл бұрын
@@Billythetoaster2004 And in this life. It's legal in ~ 1/2 of the US and other parts of the world. Their may also be restrictions by some governments instead of outright bans.
@humayunkabir5837
@humayunkabir5837 4 жыл бұрын
John Porteous it’s still common in real life too. In my religion Islam marrying cousins is not haram but you can’t marry your own aunt that’s totally forbidden. Similar with your own father, mother, grandparents, uncle and siblings. Marrying cousin it’s still common.
@deltoroperdedor3166
@deltoroperdedor3166 4 жыл бұрын
@@humayunkabir5837 I have a feeling someone's parents were cousin too
@yousofzaid872
@yousofzaid872 4 жыл бұрын
So are tywin and his wife joanna right?
@Amazatastic
@Amazatastic 6 жыл бұрын
I fully believe Sansa is the younger and more beautiful queen that will cast down Cersei. Cersei constantly underestimates Sansa and thinks of her as a stupid little girl and is too busy being threatened by Margery to think of her...I just want to see her reaction when it was actually SANSA all along
@jbennett2319
@jbennett2319 6 жыл бұрын
Amazatastic YES ❤️
@TheINSANATY
@TheINSANATY 5 жыл бұрын
me too, there is too much evidence in the books that Sansa is going to cast down Cersei by turning everyone in Westeros against her by only inspiring hope to the commoners
@Antisocialpessimist
@Antisocialpessimist 5 жыл бұрын
Haha no its Daenerys
@gigicestone4902
@gigicestone4902 5 жыл бұрын
This comment aged like milk lmao
@ohwellwhatcanyado
@ohwellwhatcanyado 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been great if that had turned out to be true. I mean I was rooting for Sansa from the very beginning. Because I knew that even though she was naive, she would suffer and then grow to be stronger than ever. That was, for me, quiet predictable.
@stofsk
@stofsk 8 жыл бұрын
I will eat my hat if Sansa doesn't end up Queen as part of the Maggy the Frog prophecy somehow. I consider it a double bluff. Cersei gets it wrong wrt Marg, because she's an idiot. But the narrative gives us the 'obvious' answer that it must be Dany. But Dany is a hopeless Queen and she'd suck and so on. Plus it would make it more ironic that the Queen destined to overthrow Cersei was the one person she didn't think it would be, the one person she continually belittled and dismissed. I could see her and Jon hooking up. His predilection for redheads and her 'mang can I have just one suiter who isn't a complete fucking psycho'
@hegantank6495
@hegantank6495 3 жыл бұрын
time to eat your hat
@low-fatmilklove1187
@low-fatmilklove1187 3 жыл бұрын
@@hegantank6495 Sansa’s still stuck in the Vale. She’s got time to work on her Queen game in case the next couple of books ever come out.
@ralcogaming7674
@ralcogaming7674 3 жыл бұрын
@@hegantank6495 anything past season 5 is just fanfiction.
@iffatrizvi9531
@iffatrizvi9531 3 жыл бұрын
Cercie of course trained and groomed her replacement and learning form her cunningness Sansa can now rival her but also has a natural goodness and honour Cersie didn't
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 3 жыл бұрын
She's also been learning quite a few tricks from Littlefinger, the slipperiest weasel in all of Westeros... Not to mention that if GRRM's basing his plot on English history, and Robert Baratheon is obviously based on King Henry VIII, then his (eventual) successor would be Elizabeth I, an unlikely, red-haired young long-shot heir to the crown who had lived much of her adolescence as a political hostage, after her mother was executed as a traitor... Sound familiar? 😉 She is considered to have been a great queen, and never married. Interesting possibilities?
@TheCountOfMommysCrisco
@TheCountOfMommysCrisco 8 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early it was still possible to ask someone to hold a door for you without breaking down into tears.
@mddc5243
@mddc5243 8 жыл бұрын
;_;
@Babyluigikarting
@Babyluigikarting 8 жыл бұрын
I cri everytim
@officialreek
@officialreek 8 жыл бұрын
hodor was the true villain anyway
@garyoak317
@garyoak317 8 жыл бұрын
Hold the tears! Hold the tears! Hold the tears! Hold the tears! Hol the tears! Hotears! Hotears!
@EnlightenedTurtle
@EnlightenedTurtle 8 жыл бұрын
lol so so true
@ubelmensch
@ubelmensch 8 жыл бұрын
A man is early. Time to make a joke. Dorne
@petterniklasson2547
@petterniklasson2547 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dorne is alright... in the books.
@johncio91
@johncio91 8 жыл бұрын
Meryn fucking Trant.
@PsilocybeJedi
@PsilocybeJedi 8 жыл бұрын
Take your time, I'm almost done with the video
@ubelmensch
@ubelmensch 8 жыл бұрын
johncio91 The Sand Snakes have no armor nor a big fucking sword
@johncio91
@johncio91 8 жыл бұрын
Jaqen H'ghar But they are bad pussies.
@Destiny_015
@Destiny_015 8 жыл бұрын
Jon-Sansa are so compelling cause of how they make the story complete a full circle. The matter of Stark and Targaryan marraige ruining Westeros and then a Stark and Targaryan marraige saving it is kinda brilliant. JonSansa have too many parallels and was a deal among many book readers. The base for their ship being too many parallels. Jon Sansa both left Winterfell disappointed with the life there. Jon the North and Sansa the South. Both had high expectations and opinion of knights only to understand a different tale later. Sansa over time slipped into the status of the bastard Alayne and Jon rose up to be a Lord Commander. And the Ashford Theory isn't too bleak. The similarity is uncanny. Jon dreaming of being Aemon the Dragonknight and Sansa Queen Naerys, who were lovers. More than that. Jon in his only wish have wanted to have a family of his and named his children after his lost brothers. And surprisingly the similar PoV with same wants as his is found in Sansa. Sansa wanted to marry Prince Joeffry who was a bastard and in Winterfell there was a bastard Jon Snow who is a Prince. And it goes on. JonSansa are not in the face. But when you delve on it. The parallels and resemblance just hits you on the face. You go like Woah. They are not that unlikely . JonSansa are the best possible match for both of them. And mostly if their marraige happens its stepping stone would be political. But they would grow into it like NedCat. Inspite of all these references the chances of them always seemed bleak but the thing that solidified this not much popular theory is Season 6. The interaction between JonSansa have been a lot and theres not complete platonic edge to the scenes. Like the cloak scene. And the chemistry oozes out of the actors. Season 6 has lot of ground for JonSansa to happen. We have to wait for S7 for the matter to come out. And well the biggest evidence of all. Jon likes redheads.
@shaki8557
@shaki8557 7 жыл бұрын
Ew lmao
@asukachan07
@asukachan07 7 жыл бұрын
--Destiny-- Your rationale is solid, yet people will deny their potential as a couple because they can't go past something as stupid as first cousin incest...In the world of GoT. But they ship Jon with his AUNT Dany. Sigh.
@TifaStrife
@TifaStrife 7 жыл бұрын
--Destiny-- Besides Jon x Sansa mirrors Henry Tudor and Elizabeth of York from War of the Roses which the book/GOT is based from.
@shaki8557
@shaki8557 7 жыл бұрын
TifaStrife George is def inspired by history but when you have to dig so deep to gather Jonsa proof, by going into history or different stories then I think it's time to drop it. If you're interested in like Tudor stuff and real historical stuff then just watch Reign or something. Even if they weren't related, they would be the most stupid nonsensical couple ever. He's going to be with Dany, and in the books maybe Arya. sorry it's what makes sense. It's where all the REAL evidence is.
@bekl1131
@bekl1131 7 жыл бұрын
I've been really keen on this theory for a while now. Especially when you compare the story and it's characters to the War of the Roses (from which GRRM has based ASOIAF). There are so many subtle hints and parallels between the 2 that yeah, it does hit you in the face when you do a re-read haha! I also thought S6 was leading us towards a Jon/Sansa union. I really like the irony behind Jon finally finding love and acceptance in the mirror image of the woman that caused him such distress growing up. (*could also be the reason Jon has been attracted to redheads all along - his subconscious projecting his need for acceptance onto Cat lookalikes?) I am worried though, If the show does go down the Jon/Dany route (probably more a sex scene than a marriage) just to appease the fans, then the Jon/Sansa subtle storyline has been for nothing. It won't be as shocking to the audience when Jon falls in love with his sister/cousin. It instead turns into a bit of a joke "ole Jonny likes to keep it in the family!"
@georgek3686
@georgek3686 8 жыл бұрын
"...but after Sansa's history of evil exes,you can only hope she'll end up with someone she likes" Soooo,Scot Pilgrim is in Westeros?
@andrewhunt7328
@andrewhunt7328 5 жыл бұрын
Sansa kinda liked Tyrion. Well not love him. But Tyrion is more like her step brother
@Lilith87
@Lilith87 7 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, mostly because Daney/Jon is too predictable and I don't support Arya/Jon, mostly because Arya actually treated him like a brother and she's just too underage for him. Sansa never really treated him like a brother so maybe the knowledge of him being her cousin might spark romantic interests between the two, he'll also treat her well.
@emmacarstairs3947
@emmacarstairs3947 6 жыл бұрын
Shiina preach
@icechoc
@icechoc 6 жыл бұрын
Gross, pair Jon with the girl who looks like the bitch who ruined his childhood. Not to mention said girl contributed to Jon's misery. So if an adoptive brother and sister aren't close then they can bone. That's your brilliant logic.
@oldschoollo8832
@oldschoollo8832 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of woman hate on sans a. I can see why she's beautiful.
@icechoc
@icechoc 5 жыл бұрын
@@oldschoollo8832 - what a stupid insulting generalisation. Obviously not because there are characters I like who are beautiful. I don't hate Sansa. I hate this idea people have to pair her with Jon.
@jakegraham3758
@jakegraham3758 5 жыл бұрын
Chase your Dreams Maise Williams is 21 idk how old Arya actually time is all messed up on the show
@sarahjames927
@sarahjames927 6 жыл бұрын
If it means that they both survive the series happy and healthy than I’m all for it.
@Espinozaize
@Espinozaize 8 жыл бұрын
Can I just ask a simple question here: Why would anyone in their right mind ever believe that Jon is a Targaryan?? Because Bran comes back from the far north & says: Hi. I am a crippeled wierdo & an old man in a tree gave me visions that showed me that my half brother is actually of royal valerian descent. I mean come on.
@AltShiftX
@AltShiftX 8 жыл бұрын
Well Howland Reed was at the Tower of Joy, maybe he could vouch for Jon's parentage...
@afodor9029
@afodor9029 8 жыл бұрын
I think when Bran learn to control his visions he can share those visions about the past events with a single touch for anyone.
@reymafias6404
@reymafias6404 8 жыл бұрын
I'm already picturing when Howland does his epic showdown and tells everything...
@PatronofDeath
@PatronofDeath 8 жыл бұрын
also it is believed there is a proof hidden in the crypt. jon is haunted by the crypt in his dreams, with a feeling he gets dragged down to something. possibilities: rhaegars harp, lyannas wedding cape, jon's tombstone, or.. his dragon egg
@toneriggz
@toneriggz 8 жыл бұрын
Howland Reed is the real MVP
@michellegodwin6567
@michellegodwin6567 8 жыл бұрын
4:31 "Or maybe this pattern means nothing and she'll marry someone else, or no one at all." Jaqen: "YES! A man's getting married!"
@satyabhardwaj6346
@satyabhardwaj6346 Ай бұрын
Do you still remember this comment of yours ?
@mo0onlightmovies
@mo0onlightmovies 8 жыл бұрын
jon and sansa's grandparents Rodrik Stark and Arya Flint were cousins .. so why not it may happen
@abhaysastry941
@abhaysastry941 8 жыл бұрын
mo0onlightmovies Actually, Jon and Sansa's grandparents on the Stark side were Rickard and Lyarra Stark, parents of Ned and Lyanna. But you're right, Rickard and Lyarra WERE cousins. To correct the confusion, Rodrik Stark was Ned's grand uncle and Rickard Stark's uncle. Rodrik was the brother to Lord Edwyle Stark, Rickard's father.
@wendynerd1199
@wendynerd1199 8 жыл бұрын
Also, the first Sansa Stark married her Uncle, Jonnel. The Starks are more inbred than a sandwich.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 8 жыл бұрын
Starkcest is win wincest. Also have you seen the Targaryen one lol.
@juergenmati6288
@juergenmati6288 8 жыл бұрын
If you all look back history (not mine, the noble european families), they married their cousins (yes, even first cousins) too keep wealth within the family. George rr martin has followed this in his books, so in westeros and essos, marrying your cousin isn't seen as incest. Targarayans and cersie are just effed up
@yarp1246
@yarp1246 7 жыл бұрын
They were not cousins. But, Lyarra and Rickard Stark *were.* Anyone else think it's weird that George doesn't write Jon's reaction to Tyrion and Sansa's marriage but dedicates all of ADwD to "Arya"'s marriage to Ramsay? This makes me wonder...
@cyrilvamp7424
@cyrilvamp7424 8 жыл бұрын
Really nice to see a lore speculator who doesn't have a obvious negative bias on Sansa for once.
@mekalunia
@mekalunia 8 жыл бұрын
If Arya/Jon was almost canon. Hooking with Sansa would be a bit less creepy
@angelhug
@angelhug 8 жыл бұрын
thank you!!! my exact thoughts!!
@rachelglencoats8383
@rachelglencoats8383 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed, since Sansa and Jon were always sort of distant growing up. It'd be sort of odd with how Jon and Arya are shown to be close siblings.
@Dukeoflords
@Dukeoflords 7 жыл бұрын
mekalunia it's still gross. They were raised as siblings regardless of how strained their relationship was.
@YoSiFuiAlColegioLOL
@YoSiFuiAlColegioLOL 7 жыл бұрын
mekalunia
@tgmaps
@tgmaps 7 жыл бұрын
you have to remember that its not Earth and its not real, therefore its not gross because why the fuck cares. Also Brothers marrying sisters happened a lot in the real world as well in order to "keep bloodlines pure" of the royal and noble families in both Europe, Asia and the middle east
@mariainesaraujoruiz1653
@mariainesaraujoruiz1653 8 жыл бұрын
i believe that the theory is possible, because in the original story Martin admitted that he wanted Arya and Jon falling in love...... wich is more weird because he used to call her little sister. they were more close than everyone else and i believe that's more strange; at least with Sansa there is some kind of distance between them that makes it more possible the marriage........ and i dont think Daenerys will be the bride because it's too predictible............. well we only have to wait next year :(
@mychaneluniverse1182
@mychaneluniverse1182 6 жыл бұрын
''bride of fire'' house undying...Dany is bride of fire. she will be queen of the next Targaryen
@bowandarrow3794
@bowandarrow3794 5 жыл бұрын
@@mychaneluniverse1182 dead queen
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 5 жыл бұрын
Hollywood Studio Don’t Wildlings also call redheads ‘kissed by fire’?
@TheFFilipp
@TheFFilipp 4 жыл бұрын
Bow and Arrow and Jon still didn’t hook up with his little sister, so?
@Arya_25
@Arya_25 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFFilipp the last two books are yet to come. I doubt if GRRM even finish TWOW, can't blame him tho there are so many characters and various things are going on. About Jon and Arya why the hell these two has the most foreshadowing than anyone 💀
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 7 жыл бұрын
Reasons for them to marry in the recent future: 1. Sansa has a legal right to both Winterfell and The Dreadfort. Two of the most advantageous stations in the North, the largest kingdom in Westeros, and the one Jon is trying to shoulder the weight of. 2.Jon is a Bastard, Sansa a woman, either claim may be tenuously held while separate, but together their claim would be formidable. 3. Bran will be returning, as the rightful lord of Winterfell people will be looking for him to (I assume non-violently) usurp his brother's claim. As a last legitimate son of Eddard Stark. Even Bran may want to reduce that probability. 4. Jon's claim to the North will be even less legitimate when it's discovered he's actually a Targaryen. His mother was a Stark, but Sansa is a direct descendant of Eddard. Some people may not want to follow him as it would mean a Targaryen ruling the North. 5. As an attempt to rebuild House Stark. - It's entirely possible Bran cannot produce an heir, as he may be paralyzed from the waist down. 6. As you said, they're first cousins not brother and sister. Which is not considered incest in that universe. 7. The Arya love triangle outline, Sansa makes a little more sense. Especially for the show. 8. Jon never met a redhead that didn't save his life at least one time. Catelyn, Tormund, Ygritte, Sansa... 9. On some level Sansa had direct ties to Houses Stark, Baratheon, Lannister, and Bolton. Half of which near extinction, and the other half already are, possibly making her the legal beneficiary to their holdings, depending on circumstance. (As with the Dreadfort.) Adding Targaryen to the list would be a home run, and she may even have a tenuous claim to the Vale if something happens to Littlefinger, due to her Aunt Lysa, a connection Jon can't claim. 10. They look like young Ned and Catelyn. =)
@ThatGuy56326
@ThatGuy56326 5 жыл бұрын
John is not a bastard.
@hasibmd2891
@hasibmd2891 5 жыл бұрын
The thought process you have used to find out these connections is too much for dumb and dumber. And show jon lost his own ambitions and thinking capabilities.
@ThatGuy56326
@ThatGuy56326 5 жыл бұрын
Hasib MD ok calm you dick there buddy
@pjfsr7024
@pjfsr7024 4 жыл бұрын
@@hasibmd2891 Months later.... Well that could also be due to the rules of GRRM; Returning from the dead should have consequences. Even in a frozen state brain cells die, slowly maybe but some do die so his resurrection can be cause the results we see later.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 4 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Johnson I don't care what you think, your opinions are not even borne out by the narrative itself.
@feller_of_florida
@feller_of_florida 6 жыл бұрын
When Cersei is told that one will take her place, one younger and more beautiful, I don't believe the witch that originally told her this was specifically meaning that it would be a queen to take her place. In the show, Tormund teases Jon, saying that he's more beautiful than his daughters. So I believe that the witch was takilng about Jon replacing Cersei, younger and more beautiful. Also fits the "prince that was promised" that Rhaegar believed he would fulfill with Lyanna.
@obey_forever_mae
@obey_forever_mae 2 жыл бұрын
omg... i never thought of the witch not mentioning gender. just saying 'younger and more beautiful'. nice theory
@TheMaYsSA2
@TheMaYsSA2 8 жыл бұрын
what's up with imaginary hate Sansa has for Jon? it looked to me like she was worried for Jon? more like tension with Littlefinger because of his creepiness and because she knows he's a horrible human being
@andrewhunt7328
@andrewhunt7328 5 жыл бұрын
She cares deeply for Jon. You never see them argue too aggresively and when it goes too far. Jon looks like he regrets shouting at her.
@shriya8475
@shriya8475 8 жыл бұрын
If you look at the Stark family tree, there is ONE Jonnel Stark -and guess who he marries? His niece Sansa Stark. *Coincidence? I think not!* GRRM been planning this since day 1. Whether he remains KITN or sits on the Iron Throne, Jon will need an heir. Dany will NEVER be able to give him that, since she's barren. Her body was ruined after the birth of Khal Drogo's son, a winged creature. The only children she'll ever have, are her dragons. As KITN Jon's best alliance politically is Eddard Stark's own daughter, Sansa. Their children would have the strongest claim to the North being descendants of both Ned and Lyanna Stark. SIMULTANEOUSLY, Dany would need Jon to have children of his own in order to carry on the Targaryen lineage. And Dany would see Sansa as his best match, since their children in addition to the North ALSO would have the strongest claim to the Iron Throne being descendants of Prince Rhaegar himself thus securing a united Westeros, with Dany ruling in South in King's Landing and Jon as KITN.
@natalieparker3361
@natalieparker3361 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! Martin only made these two characters to not have a close bond. Someone should be asking why this is? Also Aemon the Dragon knight and his sister he fell in love with are both in Jon's and Sansa's chapters. Sansa even fell in love with a boy when she was younger that was in the NIGHTS WATCH. His name was Waymar Royce. Guess what he looked like? He was slender and graceful and has GREY EYES. exactly what Jon looks like and is described in the books. Jons first love was a red head with Blue eyes. HMMM?
@lambeflores
@lambeflores 7 жыл бұрын
Actually in the books at her last chapters in ADWD its hinted that she might be able to bear children again
@nguyenhonghanh4361
@nguyenhonghanh4361 7 жыл бұрын
JonSa will never happen in the show. And if you want to talk about the books, then i have a bad news for you, GRRM is the captain of SanSan ship (Sansa x Sandor). They're his beauty and the beast 2.0.beside Brienne Jaime LOL
@YourWhysun
@YourWhysun 7 жыл бұрын
The grandfather of Robb, Sansa, Brann, Rickon, and Arya, Rickard Stark married his 1st cousin, Lyarra Stark. It's a good thing his children, Ned, Brandon, Benjen, and Lyanna were had good minds.
@27brennan
@27brennan 7 жыл бұрын
KITN = King In The North
@1337ijs
@1337ijs 8 жыл бұрын
Tyrion honestly always seemed a good match for Sansa. He's incredibly smart and quick-witted, considerate as all get-out, and the technically-never-annulled marriage the two of them have may now be highly adventagous politically with Tyrion coming back to Westeros as Hand of the Queen, and the North/Night's Watch in need of allies and reinforcements to fight the army of the dead. Tyrion also knows and is passable friends with Jon Snow, giving the North another in by way of Tyrion to Dany's soon-to-be-in-place new government in the South (if she hasn't at least deposed Cersei by the end of Season 7, something will have to have gone so horribly wrong...).
@martonlerant5672
@martonlerant5672 8 жыл бұрын
Except he was, ugly, not in any way resembling the chivarlic ideals, a drunk, and whoremonger... i fail to see how someone who waits for prince charming could see that as ideal... or acceptable.
@martonlerant5672
@martonlerant5672 8 жыл бұрын
Luluko Lamperouge We are talking about sansa... The person who was in relationship with not one, not two, but three sadistic psychoes. After that i have some doubt about her wiseing up.
@1337ijs
@1337ijs 8 жыл бұрын
Márton Léránt Point in Tyrion's favor; the whoremongering stopped practically as soon as he got married. Also, name anyone in GOT besides Ned Stark and Barristan Selmy who actually resemble the chivalric ideals... I'll wait, it's fine...
@martonlerant5672
@martonlerant5672 8 жыл бұрын
ISchulz John Snow... ...isn't that unfortunate?
@1337ijs
@1337ijs 8 жыл бұрын
Márton Léránt Not really. There is some fantastic chemistry between Kit and Sophie. I was just trying to make the point that maybe five people in the series overall that we've seen in the immediate story (starting with Game of Thrones/S1) actually live according to chivalric values, so those aren't much of a barometer of character in Westeros.
@acrefray
@acrefray 8 жыл бұрын
Dude: 3:18: "Arya will be more forgiving... Until she realizes, with terror, that she has fallen in love with Jon, who is not only her half-brother but a man of the Night's Watch, sworn to celibacy. Their passion will *continue to torment Jon and Arya throughout the trilogy*, until the secret of Jon's true parentage is finally revealed in the last book. (This is obviously based off of the extremely early ideas of ASoIaF, so may be wrong) When Jon's parentage is revealed, it is suggested that the passion between Jon and Arya *no longer torments them*. This could easily be due to death, or perhaps due to it no longer being forbidden (outside of the NW, unless if Jon has "legally" left by then) Whilst it seems Jon/Arya has been scrapped, like you said, perhaps Jon/Sansa may occur in it's place.
@DenDave_
@DenDave_ 8 жыл бұрын
Jon who? i´d settle for a Dany & Sansa hookup
@MajestyXXII
@MajestyXXII 8 жыл бұрын
My nigga
@alxquick8709
@alxquick8709 8 жыл бұрын
The three heads of the Dragon; Danny, Sansa, and Yara.
@hoopmoog
@hoopmoog 8 жыл бұрын
nah nah yara n dany are real
@tio9896
@tio9896 8 жыл бұрын
That would be against the laws of gods and men westerosi society follows
@JustNatax3
@JustNatax3 8 жыл бұрын
Well I'm hoping for some littlefingering for Sansa, and some lesbian power couple with Dany and Yara tbh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@b.3049
@b.3049 8 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't this video include all the awkward sexual tension of season six, what more proof do we need
@SanyaTheShe
@SanyaTheShe 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one with a sick twisted mind who felt sexual tension between them. Turns out, more and more people think that was not a coincidence at all.
@TUCHENZ
@TUCHENZ 7 жыл бұрын
between who
@weiyin8046
@weiyin8046 6 жыл бұрын
Jon fucked Dany, i think that’s enough of an anti-jonsa argument
@francescacolby6513
@francescacolby6513 6 жыл бұрын
ikr
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 6 жыл бұрын
average citizen Yup, because D&D lost their balls to feminazis.
@sunnylaurie91
@sunnylaurie91 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone is going crazy over the Jon and Sansa's possible relationship..screaming that they're cousins but no one bats an eye over Cersei and Jaime's incestuous relationship.
@leelahasan3988
@leelahasan3988 5 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? People hate Cersie and Jaime. Cersie and Jaime's relationship is one of the most disgusting and off putting parts of the show.
@DeusRex02
@DeusRex02 5 жыл бұрын
@@leelahasan3988 I only hate it because I'd rather watch jaime and tyrion fuck. Mmmm dwarf creampie
@funny3scene
@funny3scene 4 жыл бұрын
River Song Stannis definitely bats an eye
@darylchurch2115
@darylchurch2115 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeusRex02 Now that's courage my strange friend!
@lelouchvibritanniazero3821
@lelouchvibritanniazero3821 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeusRex02 Pleas go away!
@UuzerName
@UuzerName 8 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely have Howland Reed tell everybody that Jon is a targaryan rather than bran. just imagine how epic that scene would be.
@ashlabelle
@ashlabelle 8 жыл бұрын
In the books, I think it's more likely to be Aegon who's Sansa's next suitor rather than Jon. On the show, I don't think they'll go the route of Jon x Sansa either, there seems to be a shift towards Jon x Dany.
@rachithojoshoury1925
@rachithojoshoury1925 7 жыл бұрын
If they marry it will the best series that I have ever watched😂
@waIdemar44
@waIdemar44 5 жыл бұрын
Ffs
@bekl1131
@bekl1131 8 жыл бұрын
In the books, I was hoping Sansa might end up with Aegon aka Young Griff. If it turned out he was the true Targaryen heir, (and ended up taking the throne) she might fulfil the prophecy of being 'the younger, prettier queen that destroys Cersei'. In the show - I just want her safe and happy lol. Out of all the characters in GOT, her story arc has been the most developed. And for good reason I think. Have to admit though; I really love the idea of a Jon and Sansa pairing. Jon and Dany getting together is way too cheesy and cliche for GOT. Two siblings/cousins falling in love and marrying is something I can totally imagine GRRM doing. Particularly when you compare them to their parallels - the Lannisters. Cersei and Jamie's romance is considered wrong and taboo. And they are the 'villains' of the show (Jamie not so much any more, but you get the gist). It would be like GRRM to then twist this theory and make the hero and heroin (aka the Warrior and the Maiden), having been raised as siblings, fall in love. Not everyone will like it; but he won't care. Its his story.
@sakurablossomalmira
@sakurablossomalmira 7 жыл бұрын
Bek Lorraine i agree with you
@margarethafalco63
@margarethafalco63 7 жыл бұрын
Bek Lorraine To late
@BluthsBananas
@BluthsBananas 6 жыл бұрын
I really hope they don't make Dany the "younger and more beautiful queen". Dany doesn't have a history with Cersei and it just wouldn't be satisfying at all. I have always hoped it would either be Margaery or Sansa. Mostly Sansa because of their interactions. After one of Cersei's "lessons" of being queen Sansa makes it clear that she will be a loving queen. "If I am ever queen, I will make them love me."
@powerypowery2987
@powerypowery2987 2 жыл бұрын
I shipped them all along. Since I read the books, I thought they should be together. It is interesting how Sansa ignored the existence of Jon as long as they were at Winterfell, and hiw she starts to think about him more often as they get apart.
@MyCarnageExtreme
@MyCarnageExtreme Жыл бұрын
Just the irony of the princess and the bastard getting together is enough to carry this ship. This and the fact that they are Ned and Cat but younger.
@Arya_25
@Arya_25 Жыл бұрын
The fact Sansa only thinks about Jon when all of her brothers got killed. Yes, she is like Catelyn, both didn't like Jon and insulted him. But book Jon is not like Ned he lies sometimes, rustless etc he clearly didn't like cat so what made you think he like Sansa?? Also Jon saying" .....don't tell Sansa" that guy didn't even trust her.
@DDabidu
@DDabidu 10 ай бұрын
@@MyCarnageExtreme Yeah, thats probably something that will help them, mirroring last north lords might win them some points with northmen and rivermen (I hope I have made myself understood, first time talking about asoiaf on english xd)
@dolokpurba
@dolokpurba 8 жыл бұрын
Henry Tudor (had King's blood through his mother) battled Richard III, and then proclaimed King. Jon Snow (had Stark's blood through his mother) battled Ramsay Snow, and then proclaimed King in the North. Elizabeth of York's 2 little brothers (the Princes in the tower), locked in Tower of London by Richard III and then disappeared. Sansa had two younger brothers arrested by Theon in Winterfell before they're gone/dead. Henry Tudor married his distant cousin, Elizabeth of York (the true heiress to the throne) to cement his claim. Jon Snow could possibly marry Sansa (the true heiress presumptive of the North) also to cement his claim. Elizabeth I succeeded the bloody Mary I, who burned every protestants in England. Daenerys will depose the bloody Cersei, who burned every faithfuls in Kings Landing. Elizabeth I remained unmarried and didn't have issue, she picked James VI of Scotland as her heir, resulting Scotland united with England to this day. Daenery will not remarry and nor have issue, she will pick Jon as her heir, reuniting the North as part of the 7 kingdom again.
@mellianistari378
@mellianistari378 5 жыл бұрын
Those are true facts of war of roses ...what you are saying it's pretty accurate .
@dilokuyt
@dilokuyt 9 ай бұрын
This is show based and not book based, so the arguments are completely invalid.
@CoinOpTV
@CoinOpTV 8 жыл бұрын
I'll marry Sansa!
@annyoungbluth654
@annyoungbluth654 8 жыл бұрын
Original outline had a love triangle between Jon/Tyrion/Arya. For anyone who isn't creepy af this is clearly a non-starter in the books. Jon literally calls her little sister, they look exactly alike, he thinks of her as nothing but a little sister. It would be a creepy transition. Jon and Sansa always had enough distance that it isn't as creepy. They are closer in age. And their arcs mirror each others. In the books Sansa is already married to Tyrion so that portion of the storyline has gone to Sansa. Original outline had Jon and Arya interacting in the north. In the books, Sansa is planning to ride North with the knights of the Vale to free Winterfell (by getting Harry the Heir to convince them) while Jon is planning to march south before he died. They will clearly meet up at the battle. This happened in show. In the books, before Jon dies Sansa is the second to last person he thinks of. He pictures her brushing Lady and then thinks of Ygritte. Clear procession from her to his romantic interest. In the books, Sansa spends time as a bastard and models herself on Jon (for instance she ages herself up to 14, which is the age he was when she last saw him, she thinks Alayne wouldn't like to dance the way Sansa did Jon doesn't like to dance, she is generally more serious and dour as Alayne.) This time makes her think of him and how sweet it would be to see him again. Basically, Sansa's entire plot has been making her more empathetic toward Jon. When they meet again she will relate to him on a deeper level. Sansa dreams of having babies who look like Arya. Jon, a potential father to those babies, looks like Arya. In her last chapter of AFFC Sansa hears a direwolf howl. AFFC takes place at the same time as ADWD. It's almost certainly Ghost she hears when Jon dies. Sansa isn't usually connected to the magical aspect of the Starks. But she knows when Jon dies. Their stories parallel each other perfectly. Jon started off as a bastard became a Lord (Commander) and is a would be king when Robb's will is found. Sansa started off as a would be Queen (marrying Joff) became a Lady in her own right (marrying Tyrion) and is now a bastard. Both planned on utterly traditional roles for their station in life. Bastards go off to the Wall. Ladies marry handsome princes. Both were bitterly betrayed by the life they thought they wanted. But stuck with it long past the point it became obvious it wasn't working for them. When Jon is offered Winterfell from Stannis he says repeatedly to himself and to Stannis that Winterfell belongs to his sister Sansa. But at the same time he wants desperately to be Lord of Winterfell and remembers being bitterly jealous of Robb for being able to have that. Even when the will is found it's clear he'll have some conflict over usurping Sansa as he did when Stannis offered to legitimize him.
@Who-qn5fl
@Who-qn5fl 7 жыл бұрын
Reunion of jon and sansa was nearly perfect..their implicit chemistry is amazing & she is a better female suitor for jon than Daenerys.
@risingzstarrs7978
@risingzstarrs7978 7 жыл бұрын
right spyder couldn't have said it better myself
@Who-qn5fl
@Who-qn5fl 7 жыл бұрын
:) thanks
@JDsp0rts
@JDsp0rts 8 жыл бұрын
During SDCC, when asked about a Jon and Sansa romance, Sophie Turner said, “Nothing will happen...”. However, she had yet to even receive the scripts for Season 7. Flash forward to today, and Sophie was just recently asked at the Emmy’s and I quote, “What is happening between Sansa and Jon?” and ST responded with, and I quote once again, "I don't know man, I don't know. Things could happen. Things couldn't happen. They are cousins. And it is Game Of Thrones". Hmm. Well, by that point she had received her scripts, read them over, practiced them, and prepared to begin filming. Ever since Jon was crowned KITN, the writers and producers have been trying to hype up this storyline of Jon vs Sansa, or a Stark Civil War. Why would Sophie just assume that the Interviewer was talking about a romance between the two and not about the "rivalry"? Hmm... obviously, a rivalry is not likely, but even more so when they hype it up like that. They need a way to bring drama into the north storyline because i'm sure they aren't ready to bring the Walkers past the wall. Enter Littlefinger, who is obviously going to try and get in the way of Jon and Sansa. Now, as I mentioned, they have been hyping up this storyline of Jon v Sansa, and a lot of fans are already expecting it to actually happen. Do we ever learn?? They did the same with Jon last season, saying that he was dead and not coming back. Why would they hype up this storyline if it was meant to be a shocking reveal, because it should be. People like to point to the scene where Jon is crowned KITN and Sansa has a very “grim” look on her face when she looks at LF. This is exactly what I am talking about. D & D did an interview awhile back and talked about how Jon is honorable, and therefore it is harder for him to play the game. They also talked about how he will need protection... Enter Sansa.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 8 жыл бұрын
Word of advice take Spohie Turner's interviews with a grain of salt as she loves to troll the fans. Though her saying that she doesn't know is going to happen means that it will be something shocking and unexpected.
@Ruspapa
@Ruspapa 8 жыл бұрын
Also, Kit swear that he won`t coming back in season 6. Or wait...!
@JDsp0rts
@JDsp0rts 8 жыл бұрын
King Jon Starkgeryan Of course. She is a troll. But, she lets things slip from time to time. She also let it slip in an interview that Sansa apparently knows of Jons parentage, even though she doesn't know in Season 6, so she obviously learns in Season 7, probably sooner than later. Just interesting how she went from "Nothing will happen" when she didn't have the scripts to "Things could happen" when she did.
@NickTovA
@NickTovA 8 жыл бұрын
To point out, she went from the SDCC answer, to read the scripts, and to the Emmys answer.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 8 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Butler Oh okay I see what you meant. I thought you were taking her at face value.
@Emma88178
@Emma88178 4 жыл бұрын
Sansa was/is one of the best things about the books and show and I LOVE how her popularity has increased over time. She was also the best thing about season 8. She was the voice of reason and one of the only people to see Dany for what she was and who legitimately cared about her family and their people. Queen in the North! I can’t wait for her to be queen in the books too.
@danielroybal226
@danielroybal226 Жыл бұрын
I think she disliked Danny because well all women find reason to dislike each other 😂
@dilokuyt
@dilokuyt 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@danielroybal226what a misogynistic thing to say! Apparently judging by Sansa and dany’s interactions show creator hate women too.
@awaywiththefaeries9464
@awaywiththefaeries9464 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a scene in season 7 where Jon chokes Littlefinger when he speaks about Sansa... and a scene in season 1 where Ned chokes Littlefinger when he speaks about Catelyn.
@dilokuyt
@dilokuyt 9 ай бұрын
And that scene shows that Jon cares about his sister and doesn’t want her to be manipulated by the guy who destroyed his entire family
@HLWiley
@HLWiley 8 жыл бұрын
So interesting. I'm wondering about how "decent" Sansa is likely to stay. I have only just started the books, but on the show we have gotten some foreshadowing in earlier season and some evidence this past season that Sansa will herself develop into a killer. It is my shameless hope that Little Finger will be her masterwork in that area, but that is not really on point. Lady Ashford is pretty much a non-entity in the Duncan story, right? Sansa's arc is already much more interesting and she is now much less passive. Thoughts on how that might shape how her story relates to this theory?
@AltShiftX
@AltShiftX 8 жыл бұрын
In the books, Sansa is still pretty passive - kinda like Lady Ashford, yeah. But we may well see her become a more independent - and dangerous - agent, as she does in the show.. I'll have to do an in-depth vid on Sansa some time.
@ellchicago
@ellchicago 8 жыл бұрын
Baelish is the Lord of Harrenhal and every family who has held Harrenhal has died out. The Ghost of High Heart predicts that Sansa will kill Littlefinger ("I dreamt of a maid at a feast with purple serpents in her hair, venom dripping from their fangs. And later I dreamt that maid again, slaying a savage giant in a castle built of snow.") Baelish's original sigil was the Titian of Bravos and Sansa destroys Robin's Titan of Bravos doll after he destroys her Winterfell snow castle which may be more foreshadowing of Baelish's death.
@ellchicago
@ellchicago 8 жыл бұрын
Jon and Sansa will probably end of together. Jon has been mostly compared to Ned and Sansa compared to Catelyn. Both have been foreshadowed to become King and Queen. They had basically no prior contact before season 6, so they don't have a brother and sister relationship. Cousin marriage is practiced legally in Westeros. Sansa wishes a hero would cut off Janos Slynt's head and Jon eventually does that. It is possible that Sansa "hears" Ghost and Jon's death. ““Ser Sweetrobin,” Lord Robert said, and Alayne knew that she dare not wait for Mya to return. She helped the boy dismount, and hand in hand they walked out onto the bare stone saddle, their cloaks snapping and flapping behind them. All around was empty air and sky, the ground falling away sharply to either side. There was ice underfoot, and broken stones just waiting to turn an ankle, and the wind was howling fiercely. It sounds like a wolf, thought Sansa. A ghost wolf, big as mountains.""
@ellchicago
@ellchicago 8 жыл бұрын
Jon is Sansa’s hero. “Frog-faced Lord Slynt sat at the end of the council table wearing a black velvet doublet and a shiny cloth-of-gold cape, nodding with approval every time the king pronounced a sentence. Sansa stared hard at his ugly face, remembering how he had thrown down her father for Ser Ilyn to behead, wishing she could hurt him, wishing that some hero would throw him down and cut off his head. But a voice inside her whispered, There are no heroes…” -- “I will not hang him,” said Jon. “Bring him here.” “Oh, Seven save us,” he heard Bowen Marsh cry out. The smile that Lord Janos Slynt smiled then had all the sweetness of rancid butter. Until Jon said, “Edd, fetch me a block,” and unsheathed Longclaw.” Could you really see Arya and Val fitting into this picture that Jon describes? I don’t. Arya in season 1 says that getting married to a Lord, rule his castle, and having children “isn’t [me]”. “I would need to steal her if I wanted her love, but she might give me children. I might someday hold a son of my own blood in my arms. A son was something Jon Snow had never dared dream of, since he decided to live his life on the Wall. I could name him Robb. Val would want to keep her sister’s son, but we could foster him at Winterfell, and Gilly’s boy as well. Sam would never need to tell his lie. We’d find a place for Gilly too, and Sam could come visit her once a year or so. Mance’s son and Craster’s would grow up brothers, as I once did with Robb. He wanted it, Jon knew then. He wanted it as much as he had ever wanted anything. I have always wanted it, he thought, guiltily.” Well there is one woman, who fits into this picture: Sansa “She pictured the two of them sitting together in a garden with puppies in their laps, or listening to a singer strum upon a lute while they floated down the Mander on a pleasure barge. If I give him sons, he may come to love me. She would name them Eddard and Brandon and Rickon, and raise them all to be as valiant as Ser Loras. And to hate Lannisters, too. In Sansa’s dreams, her children looked just like the brothers she had lost. Sometimes there was even a girl who looked like Arya.” Jon references “You know nothing, Jon Snow,” with his thoughts with Sansa. “Jon flexed the fingers of his sword hand. The Night’s Watch takes no part. He closed his fist and opened it again. What you propose is nothing less than treason. He thought of Robb, with snowflakes melting in his hair. Kill the boy and let the man be born. He thought of Bran, clambering up a tower wall, agile as a monkey. Of Rickon’s breathless laughter. Of Sansa, brushing out Lady’s coat and singing to herself. You know nothing, Jon Snow. He thought of Arya, her hair as tangled as a bird’s nest. I made him a warm cloak from the skins of the six whores who came with him to Winterfell…I want my bride back…. I want my bride back…. I want my bride back….”
@ellchicago
@ellchicago 8 жыл бұрын
If GRRM wanted Sansa to marry Aegon, why have Baelish and Sansa plan on heading up North? Aegon is South, so geographically speaking Jon is far closer, so if it where to happen, it would probably have to be Jon.
@dubedaare
@dubedaare 7 жыл бұрын
As long as Jon and Daenerys don't get together I'm up for anything, really!
@risingzstarrs7978
@risingzstarrs7978 7 жыл бұрын
dubedaare they are sadly
@raniajones5363
@raniajones5363 7 жыл бұрын
dubedaare Sorry about that, it was destined to happen.
@yairmendoza3080
@yairmendoza3080 6 жыл бұрын
*Jon and Dany get together*
@LiarGameSecretariat
@LiarGameSecretariat 6 жыл бұрын
Why are u against it? Just curious
@mynameot17
@mynameot17 6 жыл бұрын
This comment aged like milk
@scorpiodrake
@scorpiodrake 7 жыл бұрын
the chemistry is certainly there. i'd root for them.
@bloobeyond
@bloobeyond 7 жыл бұрын
This would be my favorite outcome. Jon and Sansa
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
I mean it would make sense considering Sansa’s traumatic experiences with marriages so far, she might decide that she can only trust Starks. Who knows? It would make sense, at least to me though.
@tomsimcox5066
@tomsimcox5066 4 жыл бұрын
I think F-Aegon is a more likely candidate. Perhaps when littlefinger hears that the Golden Company has landed and he realises that's a better match, whilst the F-Aegon conspirators give up on Dany when they hear she's been missing ages.
@gloriousgeri
@gloriousgeri 8 жыл бұрын
Good video! I see this possibility happening more in the books than in the shpw. And not between Jon and Sansa but with Aegon.
@justagirl2743
@justagirl2743 3 жыл бұрын
it will happen in the books for sure with jon/sansa and it started to happen on the show too but D&D got cold feet
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
If fAegon and Sansa fell in love with each other, it will be the whole Rhaegar and Lyanna situation all over again, but this time, with a (possible) Blackfyre!
@GameofHypechannel
@GameofHypechannel 8 жыл бұрын
Either way we have to wait another year just to watch 6 episodes 😭😭😭
@JDsp0rts
@JDsp0rts 8 жыл бұрын
7 episodes.
@SaneMillennial
@SaneMillennial 8 жыл бұрын
I thought it was 7 or 8? Either way 15 total for the end.
@nordinvandenbulk6882
@nordinvandenbulk6882 8 жыл бұрын
Season 7 has 7/8 episodes and season 8 has 6 episodes i believe but they are a bit longer so you can still make 10 episodes of 45min like last season
@caligirlj1779
@caligirlj1779 8 жыл бұрын
Nordin Van den bulk they said sansa was going to be very seasonal next season. so idk how they will have time to do all this. but I love the idea!
@bekl1131
@bekl1131 8 жыл бұрын
lol, I'm just wondering what does 'seasonal' mean? Legit; I'm curious : ) I love Sansa so I'm hoping it means something good?
@Grenadier311
@Grenadier311 9 ай бұрын
I'll never forgive the showrunners for marrying Sansa to Ramsay. I wonder what George thought about that. The divergence was too stark, and even George wasn't that crass.
@jsvvnt
@jsvvnt 9 ай бұрын
grrm said himself that littlefinger would never give sansa away to ramsay so yeah d&d made a big mess with this plot
@Zye
@Zye 8 жыл бұрын
By far the best GoT channel on KZbin
@SkulkingSkullKid
@SkulkingSkullKid 5 жыл бұрын
I think a marriage between Sansa and fAegon is far more likely. Just as Joffrey isn't truly a Baratheon, fAegon isn't truly a Targaryen (at least so much as most of us assume), so it fits well enough. It would unite the North with the "Targaryen" force to better contest the Lannisters and their allies in the near future narrative.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb Жыл бұрын
Why would Aegon ever marry Sansa though? It makes no sense for him to do that, the North would be a terribly weak ally right now, the Northmen would not give a shit about helping Aegon, the North is too far away to help and there's a whole kingdom yet untouched by war that he could easily get on his side, Dorne.
@sglauney
@sglauney 11 ай бұрын
​@@Dell-ol6hbplus arianne def is tryna marry faegon
@Ray_D_Tutto
@Ray_D_Tutto Ай бұрын
In the same way she was never truly married to Tyrion and she wasen't "Sansa" when she was engaged to Harry.
@navamanithennarasu3860
@navamanithennarasu3860 4 жыл бұрын
I don't no why everyone thinks that cousin marriage is weird but in indian culture, they will marry their mother's brother's daughter.
@jacobematt6222
@jacobematt6222 8 жыл бұрын
Well, Jon needs a wife to become Azor Ahai, soooo...
@mddc5243
@mddc5243 8 жыл бұрын
Daenarys, perhaps? Gendry re-forges Ice from the two swords, gives it to Jon and he uses Daenarys to create Lightbringer. That's my 1 theory that I haven't seen anywhere else. But somebody else has probably already thought of it and shot it down with reasons/evidence I'm too blind to see.
@mddc5243
@mddc5243 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's my not-really-creative take on the whole "bittersweet" ending.
@mddc5243
@mddc5243 8 жыл бұрын
Daenerys* x 2
@tamaraaa993
@tamaraaa993 8 жыл бұрын
oohh that's smart. maybe she'll go crazy and he'll have to kill her
@totowashere
@totowashere 8 жыл бұрын
Sooo either his cousin or his aunt...
@disneydisney1490
@disneydisney1490 3 жыл бұрын
when I started reading GOT I dropped all my inhibitions on incest and some other morally dubious decisions lol. I wouldn't mind it if done correctly
@amandabcful
@amandabcful Жыл бұрын
Ned's mom is a stark too, Rickard stark married his cousin, seems that is pretty normal
@Deliciousclagglue
@Deliciousclagglue 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think Sansa will marry again considering her past experiences. I think that's G.R.R.M's bittersweet ending for Sansa. At the beginning of the series, Sansa was naive and wanted to raise a family and have a husband that adores her. Considering her past relationships and lost love and hopes, I think she'll remain a spinster. Can't see Arya having children either.
@WalkthroughHorde
@WalkthroughHorde 4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that all of the people Sansa is to marry lead into the next. She is to marry Joffrey, but that falls through and because of the falling through, the Tyrells come to King's Landing and seek to marry her to Willas. Because of the Willas plan, she is married to Tyrion. Because she weds Tyrion, she must flee before his trial, which leads to Harrold Hardyng. You may also notice that all of the people she is to marry are corrupted versions of a "normal" person of their name. Joffrey Baratheon is actually an awful human being and a product of incest. Willas Tyrell is not who she hoped for and is a cripple. Tyrion is "the Imp", a halfman and has an awful public image and is lecherous. Harrold Hardyng is severely rude to Sansa when they first meet. Also, each of the people she is set to marry have connections to bastards: Joffrey is secretly a bastard and I believe talks about having sex with Sansa and fathering bastards like his "father" during the wedding party between her and Tyrion. Willas is left crippled by Oberyn Martell, renowned for his bastard daughters (this is a bit of a reach I acknowledge). Tyrion says himself, "all dwarves are bastards in their fathers' eyes", and according to some theories is a bastard of Aerys. Harrold Hardyng admits to fathering many bastards in the Reach. Sansa herself is even pretending to BE a bastard, and in the Reach she is mocked for being a bastard by several highborne people, including Harrold himself. Even in the show, she marries Ramsay Bolton, a bastard of a northern house and a monster, after Lysa says she is to marry Robin, Harrold being cut out entirely. Robin who, while there is no connection to being a bastard, is sickly and frail and a dick. It is worth noting that Joffrey is a monster disguised by good looks, and Tyrion is a good man disguised by what people think to be a monstrous appearance. In the show, her last marriage is to a monster who is supposed to be ugly. Someone who outwardly appears to be what they are inside, after she's been with people who look very different from who they are inside. So with each marriage leading to the next, and the constant connection to bastards, and the parallel to Lady Ashford, it seems like Sansa will marry a Targaryen bastard as a result of the plot with Harrold Hardyng. It's a good thing we have two Targaryen bastards: Jon Snow and Aegon Targaryen, since R+L=J is all but confirmed now and Aegon is likely (imo) a Blackfyre. This would make them both bastards with Targaryen blood who appear to be something that they aren't. Except in the case of their nature: by all accounts both seem to have an appearance that matches a warm and good soul. Will Sansa finally marry someone who's nature matches their appearance, but who is a bastard who appears to be something they aren't actually like has been hinted for so long? Probably, and the Lady Ashford connection suggests it's a Targaryen, leaving us either Jon or Aegon. However, it's possible to narrow this down a little more. We can be pretty sure Jon and Sansa will meet again in The Winds of Winter, particularly due to the events of season 6. Although Sansa in season 5-6 seems to mostly take the role of Jeyne Poole in the story, perhaps it's not a replacement, and more of a merge of the two storylines. But either way, with the addition of Ramsay, Sansa has been set to marry: 1st. the heir to the throne of all the Seven Kingdoms (around the time he is crowned king it is basically decided the marriage will be halted, 2nd. the heir to the Warden of the South, 3rd. the (technical) heir to the Warden of the West. 4th. the possible heir to the Warden of the East, and finally 5th. the heir to the Warden of the North. The show then sees her setting up her own independent Northern Kingdom. Linking all the information listed above and tying it to the information from the show, it's quite likely Sansa will marry either lastly or pen-ultimately whoever is leading the North or the heir of such. Ramsay or Jon appear to be her only options. If she were to be shipped off to Ramsay first, this would throw a cog in the wheel of the link to the story of Lady Ashford. Likely, she will either marry Jon for love when they grow closer in the next book, or she will be forced to marry him for political purposes when, possibly, SHE becomes Warden of the North (having been the heir herself after Ned, nullifying the need for her to marry the heir to the Warden) and he becomes King of the Seven Kingdoms. Jon being the next heir to Ned, Warden of the North, besides Sansa after Ned's death and his being legitimized by King Robb, but also a Targaryen bastard (or possibly not a bastard, as in the show, but at least believed to be one at one point); who is externally and internally good and noble, but does appear to be something he is not to Sansa earlier in the story, makes him a perfect fit in the list of Sansa's suitors. If they meet again in the next book and become closer and possible love interest, she will surely become his bride one way or the other. In a bleaker ending, neither Jon nor Sansa want it, especially as they see eachother as siblings, but Jon does it out of duty, and Sansa does it for political maneuvering, as they have been forced to do throughout the series. This seems more likely. However, it is possible that Sansa and Jon would fall in love, as Sansa wishes her story would end, and they marry for this reason. This doesn't fit as well into Jon's story though, unless love ends up being the death of duty, or vice versa.
@WalkthroughHorde
@WalkthroughHorde 4 жыл бұрын
tolokpurba commented on this video: "Henry Tudor (had King's blood through his mother) battled Richard III, and then proclaimed King. Jon Snow (had Stark's blood through his mother) battled Ramsay Snow, and then proclaimed King in the North. Elizabeth of York's 2 little brothers (the Princes in the tower), locked in Tower of London by Richard III and then disappeared. Sansa had two younger brothers arrested by Theon in Winterfell before they're gone/dead. Henry Tudor married his distant cousin, Elizabeth of York (the true heiress to the throne) to cement his claim. Jon Snow could possibly marry Sansa (the true heiress presumptive of the North) [and his first cousin] also to cement his claim. Elizabeth I succeeded the bloody Mary I, who burned every protestants in England. Daenerys will depose the bloody Cersei, who burned every faithfuls in Kings Landing. Elizabeth I remained unmarried and didn't have issue, she picked James VI of Scotland as her heir, resulting Scotland united with England to this day. Daenery will not remarry and nor have issue, she will pick Jon as her heir, reuniting the North as part of the 7 kingdom again." Saw another comment saying Sansa was based off of Elizabeth of York as well. Also, good to note that Sansa and Jon act very similarly to Cat and Ned, are described as looking a lot like them, and go through very similar story beats. Also link Lady Stoneheart's creation, a new identity for Cat that represents her vindictive nature, and the creation of Alayne STONE at the same time, a new identity for Sansa tied to the schemes she carries out for Littlefinger in AFFC onwards.
@1987AnimeBoy
@1987AnimeBoy 7 жыл бұрын
One reason I believe Sansa and Jon might marry is because I felt that Ramsay's death scene has several similarities with Viserys' death scene: 1. The girl(Sansa/Dany), the abuser(Ramsay/Viserys), and the executioner(Jon/Khal Drogo) are related through family ties. 2. Fans keep saying that the girl kills the abuser, when technically, the girl simply gave the executioner her silent consent to kill the abuser. 3. The girl's willingness to watch the entire gruesome execution of the abuser with cold satisfaction signifies her first step from girlhood to adulthood. What do you think? Do you agree?
@jbennett2319
@jbennett2319 6 жыл бұрын
1987AnimeBoy good points 👍🏾💙🙂
@Emma88178
@Emma88178 Жыл бұрын
Another thing I'm shocked that you didn't mention here is the Stark family tree. In the past a Jonnel Stark married his half-niece Sansa Stark.
@TheFFilipp
@TheFFilipp Жыл бұрын
They had no children, she died, and he married another woman. Way to go!
@TheFFilipp
@TheFFilipp Жыл бұрын
Also that Sansa Stark had a sister and an actual Jon married that very sister, so what now, we gonna theorise about Jon/Arya?
@luis-yx752
@luis-yx752 10 ай бұрын
@@TheFFilippyou are too dumb
@josephbeaulieu1569
@josephbeaulieu1569 3 жыл бұрын
Petyr would totally try to get Sansa married to fAegon. It would definitely bring Aegon a lot of allies, but it would majorly complicate the stannis v roose story, especially if Davos has Rickon.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
If this happens and if fAegon will be betrothed to Arianne, we'll get an Rhaegar + Lyanna or Robb + Jeyne situation all over again!
@wyomingptt
@wyomingptt 7 жыл бұрын
3:10 "Until the mystery of Jon's true parentage is revealed in the last book" I really hope it doesn't take that long.
@ignamax08
@ignamax08 8 жыл бұрын
I say she will marry Hot Pie 100%
@ardyn3177
@ardyn3177 5 ай бұрын
win win valeryan breads
@melissaisloud7404
@melissaisloud7404 Жыл бұрын
Jon and Sansa marrying makes perfect sense. There’s so many points that could be considered as foreshadowing for it.
@aabe8303
@aabe8303 Жыл бұрын
Like what
@Arya_25
@Arya_25 Жыл бұрын
I think we read the same book there is no foreshadowing what so ever. It doesn't even make sense for them to be a couple just weird fantasy of Sansa fans🤷🏻‍♀️
@TheFFilipp
@TheFFilipp Жыл бұрын
Is there any actual evidence besides tumblr fangirls writing fanfic in their head and passing it for a real thing?
@josefinesfilmtube
@josefinesfilmtube 8 жыл бұрын
sansa and john, you can really feel the chemistry between them
@NickTovA
@NickTovA 8 жыл бұрын
My only dissappointment with this video is that Jon+Sansa has a lot to back up than just this theory
@TheFFilipp
@TheFFilipp 4 жыл бұрын
Like what? Meta theories on tumblr dot com about political!jon? Or the stolen and reformed Jon/Arya or Sansa/Sandor metas?
@isabelhawkins8955
@isabelhawkins8955 5 жыл бұрын
You need to make an updated video for this bro. There is so much MORE evidence that needs to be addressed. Thanks.
@kirstin014
@kirstin014 5 жыл бұрын
Isabel Hawkins exactly! most of them are on tumblr, tbh. but many of the general audience don’t take tumblr theories seriously bc “shippers” so they’re often overlooked.
@isabelhawkins8955
@isabelhawkins8955 5 жыл бұрын
Minseok Hansol Well they've all been pushed onto Tumblr because every other GoT community online is toxic and gives you hell if you have any theories about the show/books other than Targaryen restoration, Jon/Dany marriage etc. I've read loads of metas and analysis from Tumblr, and those are actually what convinced me. I don't consider myself a shipper, but the pairing has a lot of foreshadowing and evidence, so I think it's highly likely for the pair to be endgame. And what I've noticed is that most of my "general audience" friends whom I've told about the theories in real life aren't as opposed to the idea of a Jon/Sansa marriage as people on Reddit and elsewhere would have us believe. I don't know, it could happen it could not, but if I was going to place bets, I would bet on Jon and Sansa.
@TheFFilipp
@TheFFilipp 4 жыл бұрын
GYUGLUED yet it was what it was, a coincidence
@dilokuyt
@dilokuyt 9 ай бұрын
More evidence like insane crack metas from tumblr? Good laugh material
@KiyaraKaiser
@KiyaraKaiser 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Joffrey isn’t a Baratheon makes Faegon more likely because the first and the last are not what they seem
@johnniemeredith9141
@johnniemeredith9141 7 жыл бұрын
I think Tryion makes the most sense for Sansa to end up with. He's a possible Targaryen.... He treated her gently and Sansa has grown to respect the type of intelligence that varys, littlefinger and Tyrion have.
@packersfan
@packersfan 8 жыл бұрын
I think Daenerys will marry Jon, since she will be looking for a husband and there isn't that many suitors with power left, lol.
@aguajaneta
@aguajaneta 8 жыл бұрын
please no, that would ruin got.
@boomshakalaka6273
@boomshakalaka6273 8 жыл бұрын
dude lol that's way too disney for any kind of plot. not even if the showrunners were drunk would they allow that to happen.
@sushmlta
@sushmlta 8 жыл бұрын
+Boom Shakalaka lmfao actually marrying jon and dany is something the showrunners would do. contrary to popular belief, d&d aren't that edgy. it may even happen in the books too
@gvjunior1994
@gvjunior1994 8 жыл бұрын
"Way too Disney"? Lol. There's several relationships in the show that closely parallel _Beauty and the Beast_ (Sansa - The Hound, Jaime - Brienne, Dany - Drogo). GRRM doesn't actually subvert many tropes, he just tends to put his own spin on them
@afodor9029
@afodor9029 8 жыл бұрын
It will happen in the books as well. ''Key elements will be the same.''
@emmacarstairs3947
@emmacarstairs3947 6 жыл бұрын
Theres too many parallels between jon and Sansa for them to not end up together..
@xmc1234
@xmc1234 8 жыл бұрын
I think that this theory might be right, but she will end up marrying a true baratheon aka Gendry. According to another fan theory(which i believe), Tyrion is the son of the mad king, thus making him the Targeryan that she married. I think that Tyrion is a Targeryan because we all know that there are 3 heads of the dragon, and in my opinion they are Danny, Jon and maybe Tyrion(i mean, the dragon really liked Tyrion, when he went to the pyramid and unchained him, plus he has had dreams of dragons). So in short, the only person she hasnt been with is a real baratheon, leaving only Gendry to fill this spot.
@Dickythemainman
@Dickythemainman 8 жыл бұрын
What if Tyrion does end up being a Targaryen, and then if we acknowledge that Joffrey is really a Lannister, that means Sansa is destined to be with a Baratheon. Gendry for the win!
@EyeStorrm
@EyeStorrm 4 ай бұрын
Many Starks marry their own cousins. Ned's parents are cousins, too. They like it to keep it Northern because they distrusted the southrons. When they don't marry their own cousins, they either marry other Northerner, or those from southron houses who still have strong First Men ancestry, such as Blackwood and Royce. This is why Rickard's so-called "southron ambition" was notable, as he tried to arrange his oldest son to marry a Tully (Catelyn) and his only daughter to a Baratheon (Robert). Both are from Great Houses. On a related note, the fact that Jorah effing Mormont married a Hightower lady was such a ridiculously bold move, as she's not only a southron but also one from the house with strong ties to Faith of Seven and Order of Maesters, two institutions that looked down on the Northerners for their old ways.
@godspeed2272
@godspeed2272 7 жыл бұрын
But in all seriousness I really want them to get together
@risingzstarrs7978
@risingzstarrs7978 7 жыл бұрын
Godspeed exactly
@treyroberson7296
@treyroberson7296 8 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of sansa and young griff hooking up... I wish they'd bring that to the show
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
If it happens it would've been the whole Rhaegar and Lyanna situation all over again!
@gagewesterhouse9558
@gagewesterhouse9558 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact; first cousin marriage is legal in many US states. It was very common in the West and America until the very end of the 1800s. And it's still very normal outside of the West TODAY. In fact, there are some countries in Africa and the Middle East where MOST marriages are cousin marriages.
@yunary5549
@yunary5549 7 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the idea Sansa marry Jon❤💋
@mariamprayoga7937
@mariamprayoga7937 5 жыл бұрын
Me too 🤧
@adelaidaclapp1070
@adelaidaclapp1070 5 жыл бұрын
Jonsa💔
@pollycat8761
@pollycat8761 7 жыл бұрын
Jonsa 💕
@madampluto3092
@madampluto3092 6 жыл бұрын
Delusional kid. Jonsa isn't even real, just the shitty product of some sick-minded retards.
@winterfelliscoming8946
@winterfelliscoming8946 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqSXm2tvaLWDh6s
@327Stargirl
@327Stargirl 6 жыл бұрын
@@madampluto3092 We shall see after Season 8. I'm for Jonsa all the way, because it is far better than the cheesy Jon and Dany hookup, and also less disgusting.
@madampluto3092
@madampluto3092 6 жыл бұрын
Prepare to be proven wrong, kid.
@toriherry9343
@toriherry9343 6 жыл бұрын
@@madampluto3092 Calling people kid is fucking classic when you're the one acting like a child.
@magiguy102
@magiguy102 8 жыл бұрын
'It lines up too well to be a coincidence' That's... not how coincidence works.
@quantumgeek339
@quantumgeek339 8 жыл бұрын
I never understood why George seemed to go to great lengths to create a distance between Sansa and Jon in terms of their relationship its only real purpose would be for them to rediscover each other. George loves to have history replaying itself, if Sansa were to marry Jon she would have a strong parallel story arc with Cersei a woman that plotted the downfall of her house and was determined to block her rise to power, she was betrothed to the crown Prince just as Cersei had wished to be to Rhaegar , The Prince in both cases married someone else and They both end up marrying an unexpected dark haired warrior king, it would also have a certain perfect Irony that it would be the son of Rhaegar that would be the catalyst to Cersei being cast aside again. It would also be a case of history repeating itself for littlefinger , the Tully girl of his dreams once again choosing the superior northern specimen over him.
@nicmagtaan1132
@nicmagtaan1132 Жыл бұрын
The superior northern specimen is definitely a phrase to describe jon snow
@dilokuyt
@dilokuyt 9 ай бұрын
He didn’t go to lengths, Sansa and Jon just aren’t close and don’t care about each other much. A perfectly normal thing in big families with a lot of children.
@gothia1715
@gothia1715 Жыл бұрын
Even tho the show went into a complete dumpster fire, it accidentally gave this theory some charm with Jon and Sansa having a great chemistry unlike Jon and Dany.
@queenb2450
@queenb2450 Жыл бұрын
when Dany fans until this day think that if the show ever came back, they would revive Dany.....like did they not watch the same show as us? Dany was never going to be on the Throne. That's the Targ tragedy. Also, I like to gloat bc Sansa fans had to fight everyone about Sansa.
@zsuzsa-q7r
@zsuzsa-q7r 6 ай бұрын
This would have made so much more sense then BRAAAN 😭 Sansa is a mastermind of Westeros and Jon has the nobility of the North, he also has the name, Targaryen and Stark is the perfect match and also so fucked up in an interpersonal level that it fits into GOT brilliantly!
@PLAYCHESSPLAY
@PLAYCHESSPLAY 8 жыл бұрын
Why would you even want the north? They lost the war and fought against each other, their armies are destroyed, it's pretty damn cold up there and there are some Zombies at the gates that can't even be Hold by Hodor.
@toreshimada
@toreshimada 8 жыл бұрын
Because it's bigger than all the other kingdoms, combined.
@PLAYCHESSPLAY
@PLAYCHESSPLAY 8 жыл бұрын
spicy next level meme you put there
@melv5816
@melv5816 8 жыл бұрын
And it was one of the keys to defeating the WW the first time round...
@aaronsmith7946
@aaronsmith7946 8 жыл бұрын
no, actually, it is not - people commonly say that, but the truth is it can ALMOST fit the other six kingdoms inside it, meaning it is ALMOST as big as the other six combined...where as you said its BIGGER than the other six combined, when its smaller than the other six combined...just not way smaller...so get your facts straight next time (annoyed)
@aaronsmith7946
@aaronsmith7946 8 жыл бұрын
Right now the north could be taken over by Littlefinger himself with his Vale force...and its clear he only brought about 10k with him. But considering Ramsey's combined army of 6k was enough to give him such a manpower upper hand, imagine how much of an upper hand Baelish has if he decided to use that Vale force to just take Winterfell for himself and put Sansa's head on a spike like Cersei asked. Just saying, he could do it.
@redcodec
@redcodec 8 жыл бұрын
"they think of each other as brother and sister, thus its pretty gross for them to get together" - says no targaryen ever!
@IncendarGaming
@IncendarGaming 8 жыл бұрын
Great Vids
@thebarrettbarrage125
@thebarrettbarrage125 8 жыл бұрын
1:26 Incorrect. Joffrey is a bastard and he's name was Joffrey Waters, not Joffrey Lannister.
@714KH
@714KH 8 жыл бұрын
Technically yes, but he's still 100% Lannister, so it's not incorrect to call him Joffrey Lannister.
@RFerrer
@RFerrer 8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. You only inherit the name if you're the product of a legal marriage. So unless Jaime and Cersei were legally married, he wouldn't be able to inherit the Lannister name. And bastards don't get their mother's name, either.
@rutger5000
@rutger5000 8 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced she'll end up with Aegon, (although she'd have to quiet a far bit South), but I don't see her ending up with John.
@KellieDoll28
@KellieDoll28 8 жыл бұрын
rutger5000 What about Arianne? She has 3 enormous advantages over Sansa: she's the heir & princess of Dorne, she's about to be in the same castle, and she's skilled in the arts of love & seduction.
@rutger5000
@rutger5000 8 жыл бұрын
KellieDoll28 It does make more sense. But Sansa's life has the tendency to blow up. I can see her fleeing the vale / shipped away.
@riley8385
@riley8385 8 жыл бұрын
Eh, I doubt it. My money is on Aegon dying before the end of Winds of Winter. GRRM is a good writer, it's not like him to introduce a character with so much impact in the end of the story when we're already in the fifth book. Based on Quaithe's prophecies, I don't think Young Griff is really a Targaryen. A Blackfyre maybe...
@nwankpag
@nwankpag 8 жыл бұрын
+rutger5000 There's a theory that one of the hedge knights that Littlefinger employed (Ser Shadrich) knows that Alayne is Sansa and is plotting to kidnap her from the Vale.
@rutger5000
@rutger5000 8 жыл бұрын
nwankpag This is aSoIaF there's theories on everything.
@rhyanshelby6572
@rhyanshelby6572 8 жыл бұрын
Some further evidence -Jon and Sansa think about each other even though they've been apart for so long -The fandoms top choice for Jon's real name seems to be Jaehaeys. Jon shares heavy parallels to both Jaehaerys I&II. Both of these Jaehaeryses married their sisters and seemed to genuinely love them
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 8 жыл бұрын
If Arya and Bran show up at Winterfell, things are gonna get complicated.
@hellund2874
@hellund2874 2 жыл бұрын
Was sure of this ever since the Ashford Tourney theory became a thing. Too much of a coincidence. On the other hand, God knows if we'll ever find out...he'll never finish the books
@Josh.Porter
@Josh.Porter 8 жыл бұрын
Love the videos man, keep up the good work!
@matthewdeancole
@matthewdeancole 8 жыл бұрын
Sansa has already married a Targaryen, if Tyrion is a secret Targaryen, son of the mad king. I think Jon with marry Dany in an alliance, before they know they are related.
@bridgethammond7
@bridgethammond7 7 жыл бұрын
I think they should be together. They are cousins. Ned is parents were cousins weren't they? It's just better matched because they both can rule together. The north would accept it. And they can actually produce an heir unlike say Dany.
@stephenolder4552
@stephenolder4552 7 жыл бұрын
There's enough incest on the show. I don't ship anymore incest couples, and that includes Jon and Dany.
@Maria-secret
@Maria-secret 6 жыл бұрын
They are siblings for god sake not cousins they can't be married
@k0bra3eak40
@k0bra3eak40 6 жыл бұрын
Mira Ban They aren't though. Jon is the Jon of Lyanna and Rhaegar.
@TheMotherofTacos
@TheMotherofTacos 6 жыл бұрын
Mira Ban Tell that to Fanny Price and Edmund Bertram.
@NiccollyBLolly
@NiccollyBLolly 6 жыл бұрын
Is pretty obvious that Daenerys will get pregnant in the next season.
@mohammadahmad3455
@mohammadahmad3455 11 ай бұрын
The thing is even if Jon is Rheagars and Lyannas son, he’s still a bastard. Hence he has no claim to the Iron Throne. Besides that, he and Sansa see each other as siblings. It would be better if Sansa marries Aegon or Faegon lol.
@phoenix7289
@phoenix7289 8 жыл бұрын
I certainly like this idea more than the possible inter-sibling conflict between the two of them.
@MsTdiniz
@MsTdiniz 8 жыл бұрын
To be very honest, i think everything is possible on GoT. So, Sansa marrying Jon is a good theory. I still think tho, the other popular theory about Jon marrying Dany is also a very good one. Just keep in mind, that almost all the marriages in GoT are made in political ways, so both scenarios could happen.
@3Oh3metrostation
@3Oh3metrostation 5 жыл бұрын
this could be the shock they were talking about. but it feels weird to want this ending. the characters have chemistry
@bastianolivares4336
@bastianolivares4336 3 жыл бұрын
We need a sansa analysis video
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