Will Jon Snow return?

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@derekmann8239
@derekmann8239 8 жыл бұрын
"Ned gets beheaded, Robb gets Red Wedded" Fantastic.
@francescapatti2934
@francescapatti2934 4 жыл бұрын
George Lucas: IT'S LIKE POETRY IT RHYMES!
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 3 жыл бұрын
@@The_Gerry_Man They shot Jon's head in, then he was deadin', now he's a Robocop!
@jackalope901
@jackalope901 2 жыл бұрын
Cat gets throat-bleded
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 2 жыл бұрын
John gets stabbed
@EricinAmerica
@EricinAmerica Жыл бұрын
Ned a beheading, Robb a red wedding...
@kemnang
@kemnang 5 жыл бұрын
"Surely we don't have an awesome stand-off like this without a pay-off later on"
@witty_comeback
@witty_comeback 5 жыл бұрын
PAINFUL
@genesisosuna
@genesisosuna 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@princessleiaorgana7238
@princessleiaorgana7238 5 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is a bitch.
@jadegardner8836
@jadegardner8836 3 жыл бұрын
@@witty_comeback o9 o
@iumz4253
@iumz4253 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm clueless
@sebastianholden4759
@sebastianholden4759 3 жыл бұрын
Alt X five years ago: The next book is going to be a hell of a read” 2021: the next book is going to be be a hell of a read”
@Jermrants
@Jermrants 2 жыл бұрын
@@southnoon5808 September 2022 Ep 3 house of dragon has recently come out: this book is gonna be one hell of a read
@akshaysinghrai
@akshaysinghrai 2 жыл бұрын
The road to the next book is hell.
@thepredator9002
@thepredator9002 Жыл бұрын
@@Jermrants bruh season has almost ended an it will still be a hell of a read
@awf718
@awf718 Жыл бұрын
2023 and counting
@uniguy2126
@uniguy2126 Жыл бұрын
2023: The next book is gonna be a hell of a read
@gvnvcbs7150
@gvnvcbs7150 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe D&D should've watched Alt Shift X videos before writing the scenario for season 8 episode 3...
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 4 жыл бұрын
bUt SuBvErTiNg ExPeCtAtIoNs
@JC-ez6nf
@JC-ez6nf 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, and Preston Jacobs, the last harpy, Bridge4 and so on and so on. Hopefully HBO will do what they're doing to justice league and flesh it out and re tell the last 2 season.
@thewerdna
@thewerdna 3 жыл бұрын
@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 If by subverting expectations, they mean throwing out all foreshadowing and prophecy to make something happen that fulfills none of it (not even fulfilling it in a unexpected way), then yes.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewerdna I highly doubt there was much thought involved there
@Shak2k11
@Shak2k11 Жыл бұрын
they should've watched any theory videos instead of doing what they did. But writers are too high and mighty and hate theory videos even if people's theories have more thought to the narrative, characters, themes, structure, development than the actual "professionals"
@petesematary
@petesematary 9 жыл бұрын
I, for one, welcome our ice demon overlords.
@AltShiftX
@AltShiftX 9 жыл бұрын
+Abbie Sadler Someone got the reference (:
@dracognia
@dracognia 9 жыл бұрын
Alt Shift X "I’d like to remind them that as a well-read GoT fanboy, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their ever-growing army of the dead.”
@tubesaber1316
@tubesaber1316 9 жыл бұрын
Abbie Sadler One of my favorite comedies mixed with one of my favorite dramas.
@PawFace1020
@PawFace1020 9 жыл бұрын
Alt Shift X Do the Maester Conspiracy and the Weirwood Conspiracy! Please!
@Elround4
@Elround4 9 жыл бұрын
Abbie Sadler I'd only do so if they helped me become a lich. ; )
@cometopapadragon
@cometopapadragon 5 жыл бұрын
2:43 yea no pay off, arya teleports and 1 taps the night king.
@FunkMastaMegaFlex
@FunkMastaMegaFlex 5 жыл бұрын
I know it was so fucking stupid. So unfortunate.
@totalcomputerdependency
@totalcomputerdependency 2 жыл бұрын
I call hax
@Shak2k11
@Shak2k11 Жыл бұрын
good job Night King foiled by a little girl who was literally screaming during her sneak attack and then stabbed because you have such slow shitty reactions, honestly can he do anything besides follow things with his eyes and walk at a snails pace?
@deusredeemer
@deusredeemer 8 жыл бұрын
Jons Resurrection and the confirmation of his identity would be a very cool redemption for lady Stonehearts arch .... learning that Ned never cheated on her could redeem her character and she could rest in peace at last
@eric2500
@eric2500 Жыл бұрын
What she needs for that is to find out that at least one of her children are alive. I think that Arya and her wolf's wolf pack will defeat the Brothers after learning that Sansa is alive, and make peace with her mother before killing her.
@alexcoffey8804
@alexcoffey8804 Жыл бұрын
I think she'll give her life to resurrect him the same way Beric gave his to save her's. It'd be Cat's ultimate redemption.
@halbarad7932
@halbarad7932 2 ай бұрын
@@alexcoffey8804 This sounds very cool, but unlikely given where Lady Stoneheart is at this point in the story, which is the Riverlands. George R. R. Martin also doesn't seem to use the teleportation tactic (unlike D&D), since going from the Riverlands to the Wall would take a lot of time (it's across half of the continent, exluding beyond the Wall). I believe it is said in the show that it took a month to get from King's Landing to Winterfell. The Wall is even further than that, factoring in the fact that her journey would not be smooth as for the characters in the first season, when there was essentially peace everywhere, I guess that it would take her 2 months to get there. Also that's considering she leaves the Riverlands at once, which I also doubt, since she has some unfinished business in the Riverlands. You might argue that she doesn't need to travel to the Wall for this to work, but I do think that a moment loses a lot of it's impact when it happens so indirectly ig. It would feel cheap, because Lady Catelyn would not even know who is she giving the life to. Also, as much as it is set up that Catelyn hates Jon Snow for who he is, it doesn't really make sense for her to meddle in Jon's storyline, because she has no connection to the Long Night, white walkers and the prophecies regarding this plotline. I'm not even sure if Lady Stoneheart will ever meet Jon again. In the show, the Brotherhood does travel to the Wall, but I'm still sceptical about Stoneheart going there. Characters like Thoros of Myr have some ties to the white walker plotline via the Lord of Light, but Stoneheart's only interaction with the Lord of Light is via her resurrection, and prove me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember her talking about the Lord of Light, white walkers etc. ever in the books. So in summary, a great idea but unlikely given the circumstances of the books.
@MinuteLeech2
@MinuteLeech2 9 жыл бұрын
I have to respect how well you back your theories with evidence from the text, must take alot of research to locate alot of vague hints.
@teslaformens
@teslaformens 9 жыл бұрын
EvilSCIENTIST this is why i salute this guy
@lisamarieschnee
@lisamarieschnee 9 жыл бұрын
EvilSCIENTIST So much theories and everything could be false. Only GRRM knows.
@cvs_en
@cvs_en 9 жыл бұрын
Krydda Why are you even here?
@zacharyharris469
@zacharyharris469 9 жыл бұрын
A lot*
@rdecredico
@rdecredico 9 жыл бұрын
EvilSCIENTIST Hypothesis pr perhaps speculation. Theory means what has been established and considered to be true with supporting evidence.
@jackr2290
@jackr2290 9 жыл бұрын
Your GoT theory videos are unrivaled man, you've literally confirmed his return in my head.
@coachcro7722
@coachcro7722 9 жыл бұрын
Jack R This is not new, and certainly not his theory. But he makes EXCELLENT videos. The dude is awesome can't wait for his next vid
@jackr2290
@jackr2290 9 жыл бұрын
Cc Cro I never said it was new or his theory dude.
@stuckupcurlyguy
@stuckupcurlyguy 9 жыл бұрын
Jack R This is so true, he gets the absolute spot-on quotes from each book and arranges them visually so we can see both sides of the theories. Alt Shift X has a brain as sharp as a jacknife.
@jackr2290
@jackr2290 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah man he also produces very good videos.
@saturatedneowax
@saturatedneowax 9 жыл бұрын
+Jack R r+l=j cunfirmd
@saralshrestha8249
@saralshrestha8249 5 жыл бұрын
"Surely you don't have an awesome standoff life this without payoff" That's exactly what happened, :(
@Adamatronamus
@Adamatronamus 8 жыл бұрын
I think the other guy was lying down over him, so it wasn't Jon the zombies were eating. I think he'll survive by hiding under a dumpster.
@baldhero6850
@baldhero6850 8 жыл бұрын
Ha! not funny!
@buttholefresh-smellytrumpe4765
@buttholefresh-smellytrumpe4765 8 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA TWD REFERENCE
@meddog337
@meddog337 8 жыл бұрын
Hehe I get that.
@xxluaxx6
@xxluaxx6 8 жыл бұрын
YAAAAAS. My two loves.
@Wattsnic000
@Wattsnic000 8 жыл бұрын
+Adamatronamus Yeah Ser Barristan Fall on top of him at the last second.
@sealstorm1935
@sealstorm1935 8 жыл бұрын
"I've been worrying about Jon for years, he always comes back" - Samuel Tarly
@chronikhiles
@chronikhiles 6 жыл бұрын
SealStorm193 *Samwell
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 2 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in
@widego2
@widego2 5 жыл бұрын
2:43 "Surely you don't have an awesome standoff like this without a payoff later on". Aaaaaaaaaaand season 8 ep 3 happened.. sigh..
@Ahntara123
@Ahntara123 9 жыл бұрын
But wait. All the six times Thyros resurrected Beric, there was no king's blood. Why would it be necessary for Melisandre to have king's blood?
@AntoineDennison
@AntoineDennison 9 жыл бұрын
+Ahntara123 Kings Blood is necessary for environmental impacts. But the subject of a resurrection doesn't necessarily need to have King's Blood.
@piyush0320003
@piyush0320003 9 жыл бұрын
+Ahntara123 Fulfillment of Azor Ahai prophecy!
@Ahntara123
@Ahntara123 9 жыл бұрын
@piyush0320003
@piyush0320003 9 жыл бұрын
Hi dear.Azor Ahai and Jon snow connection is completely different from beric resurrection.To undersyand more abt the connection you need to know the history of Azor Ahai.Azor existed thousands of years back and played a crucial role in saving the world.Now if you need to exactly know why jon snow and azor are being talked in the same breadth you need to get spoiled somewhat which I think should not be a problem if u have seen the show.Let me know!
@Ahntara123
@Ahntara123 9 жыл бұрын
I get that there is a connection and I also think that Jon is Azor Ahai, or part of him (possibly one of the 3). What I'm not clear on is why people say king's blood is needed when there are have been multiple resurrections without it. Just seems to me that the people who say this are reaching and making assumptions.
@dreyk.4000
@dreyk.4000 9 жыл бұрын
I like Jon killing Mel to make Lightbringer.
@sophiecowan7713
@sophiecowan7713 9 жыл бұрын
Justice for sweet shireen would be served
@TheBri656
@TheBri656 9 жыл бұрын
Drey K. Doesnt he have to put it in water and a lion too? maybe stabs it into Ghost. or is that just the process from the story?
@dreyk.4000
@dreyk.4000 9 жыл бұрын
It'd be even crazier if Mel turns out to be Bloodraven's daughter. A Targ killing a Targ to forge the blade of fire. This...I like this...
@BoopBoop508
@BoopBoop508 9 жыл бұрын
Jorah mormont is the true prince that was promise he is azor ahai reborn he is a song of ice and fire
@cachedelete
@cachedelete 9 жыл бұрын
Logan Calkins no fuck off
@dezodoe79
@dezodoe79 8 жыл бұрын
I always thought Star Wars and StarTrek freaks were weird. Yet here I am watching theoretical Game of Thrones videos. Now I am one of those freaks.
@Chenrandyliu
@Chenrandyliu 8 жыл бұрын
+spm429 geek would be the correct choice of word
@dezodoe79
@dezodoe79 8 жыл бұрын
+Chen Liu "Geek". My apologies. I'm new to this world.
@okaymckay
@okaymckay 8 жыл бұрын
bro, nothing to be ashamed of, besides, got is so much better than star wars
@L4nd0C4lr1s14n
@L4nd0C4lr1s14n 8 жыл бұрын
They both have strong points.That being said I never bought a replica lightsaber, but I did get a friend the Jaime Lannister sword.
@ShaggyDabbyDank
@ShaggyDabbyDank 3 жыл бұрын
@@okaymckay It really wouldnt be fair to compare the two. One is a sci-fi epic, the other is an intense fantasy with political discourse. They're trying to do different things.
@josedg6389
@josedg6389 9 жыл бұрын
"Jon always comes back" - Samwell Tarly
@anthonykf99
@anthonykf99 8 жыл бұрын
What if Jon isn't resurrected and the story just focuses on the crippled tree boy?
@thelastmethbender
@thelastmethbender 8 жыл бұрын
+raging flame I did. Because of the visions. It made it look like he was some prophecied kid or something. Since he is just a kid, he won't really have any political influence. He won't be a warrior. Why would he seek out a god-like figure beyond the wall? I think he will be the big hero of this story tbh. I think bran wasn't in season 5 because his destiny would be a far greater one, to great to reveal it just yet. I think he will be the one to defeat the White walkers, by utilizing his powers. When Jon snow stated that even after having joined forces with the Wildlings, chance of victory would not be certain. After the huge massacre, you can imagine that this chance significantly decreased. That's where bran comes in. I think.
@Zajin13
@Zajin13 8 жыл бұрын
+The Last Methbender And i think Hodor will rule Westeros.
@TheSunsetsuicide
@TheSunsetsuicide 8 жыл бұрын
I think Hodor is actually a Clegane but was abused at a young age by the two brothers. Hence the speech impediment and moments of distress. Also explains his large size, the brothers never mention him because they assume he died during a beating. *places foil hat on head*
@williamdrouin8063
@williamdrouin8063 6 жыл бұрын
There is a certain pattern in asoiaf, the strong dies and the seemingly weak prevails
@hamzahsajjad7952
@hamzahsajjad7952 5 жыл бұрын
Three years later and the cripple tree is king
@damianodidomenico4756
@damianodidomenico4756 3 жыл бұрын
"The next book is gonna be a helluva read" Yea, about that
@xelaworrierprincess7166
@xelaworrierprincess7166 9 жыл бұрын
Fucking hell! I watch other GoT videos but Jesus yours far surpass anything else out there. Thank you for spending so much time on them, they're awesome.
@okanhinisli8993
@okanhinisli8993 9 жыл бұрын
agreed . He is the best
@paultokjian7915
@paultokjian7915 9 жыл бұрын
mijikai His voice sounds like that of a Maester lol
@mehmetalperkaya1830
@mehmetalperkaya1830 9 жыл бұрын
okan hınıslı bir bodyciyi buralarda görmek ne büyük mutluluk
@okanhinisli8993
@okanhinisli8993 9 жыл бұрын
Mehmet Alper Kaya :)
@rastiga9196
@rastiga9196 9 жыл бұрын
mijikai So you believe Jon Snow is the new coming of Jesus. Halaluha. JK, he does do mostly awesome.
@Immortalis7771
@Immortalis7771 8 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see Ollie's face when Jon comes back.
@bartledoo9
@bartledoo9 3 жыл бұрын
they literally show you his face after he was hung like the writer saw your comment
@Wattsnic000
@Wattsnic000 8 жыл бұрын
Season 7 premiere Jon comes out from under the dumpster he slid under in the finale
@J0J02007
@J0J02007 8 жыл бұрын
+Nicholas Brown LOL Wonder how many others got that. I knew Glenn wasn't dead, just by how it was done. :)
@lordeddardstark1621
@lordeddardstark1621 8 жыл бұрын
+Nicholas Brown guess you haven't seen the latest episode then...
@Maplelust
@Maplelust 4 жыл бұрын
lmao. good one.
@MortigaDawn
@MortigaDawn 9 жыл бұрын
1:43 "Bran is forgotten, beyond the Wall, becoming a psychic tree boy or something." Nailed it.
@larllarfleton
@larllarfleton Жыл бұрын
Honestly in retrospect, it shouldve been 1. John is resurrected by the lord of light because he the real Azor Ahai, and thats because 2. He is the only person left in Westeros who a. Has a legitimate claim to the throne and b. Would actually be accepted as king by the North, re-uniting the 7 kingdoms and thus being able to field a united Westerosi Army against the Night King. That would've made the most sense. So much wasted potential.
@codman123
@codman123 Жыл бұрын
Yes but what about the westerlands
@venuskllix1066
@venuskllix1066 Жыл бұрын
@@codman123 Sansa's marriage with Tyrion? The Westerlands and Dorne won't bend the knee but can't fight neither.
@codman123
@codman123 Жыл бұрын
@@venuskllix1066 yes but what will happen about dany and tyrions marriage with sansa was forced and sansa might make tyrion look bad
@ChinaMo
@ChinaMo 8 жыл бұрын
I would really be interested in a video explaining the significance of Jon, Bran, and Arya being worgs, since it seems to be so rare a thing to be. But two siblings and a cousin? Yeah. Great videos so far--thanks for that!
@AltShiftX
@AltShiftX 8 жыл бұрын
+ChinaMo Cheers! Yeah it'd be cool to do a video on warging some time...
@shadowreturn5647
@shadowreturn5647 8 жыл бұрын
+Alt Shift X Good job man, Good job, great videos, all the time!!!
@SportsSpeak73
@SportsSpeak73 8 жыл бұрын
GRRM is actually on record as saying ALL the Stark children are/were wargs so very rare indeed.
@gateauxq4604
@gateauxq4604 8 жыл бұрын
+SportsSpeak73 that would make sense. Rickon's warging is never noted because he was so young that his warging was more symbiotic and Shaggydog just acted impulsively like a 6 year old.
@SportsSpeak73
@SportsSpeak73 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, Rickon's is implied in the sense that his wolf routinely mirrors Rickons mood, but its never stated that he has "wolf dreams".
@somerandomguy6598
@somerandomguy6598 9 жыл бұрын
So Jon's last word in the book is Ghost, and he's definitely going to warg into Ghost upon death. Jon's last word in the show is Olly. Jon wargs into Olly confirmed?
@Flame1500
@Flame1500 2 жыл бұрын
2015: "The next book is gonna be a helluva read" 2022: ....please... it's been 11 years...
@istrychalski
@istrychalski 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown of the theory! I'd like to add that.... Shireen's dreams of being "eaten by a dragon" support the theory of her being sacrificed to bring Jon back (which would also be a helluva better reason than the TV show gave). Also, I don't know if you mentioned this, but "wake dragons from stone"= "wake Targaryens from the greyscale carrier"? :)
@Naralissa1009
@Naralissa1009 9 жыл бұрын
I really want Jon will be the Azor Ahai of GOT , but damn .. i have see so much theory about that , if is not true i well be very sad :(. GIVE ME BACK JON FKING SNOW PLS RR .
@007NowOnline
@007NowOnline 9 жыл бұрын
As De Pique Indeed. This video and other people connecting the dots have filled me with hope of seeing Jon Snow return.... if he doesn't it'll be a huge let down, and confuse me because the dots have already been connected in a logical way.
@lisamarieschnee
@lisamarieschnee 9 жыл бұрын
As De Pique I will be very happy if all those theories are not true because then i won't know what is coming for me and its even more entertaining.
@007NowOnline
@007NowOnline 9 жыл бұрын
Krydda If you didn't watch this video you wouldn't have known about the theory and would've been surprised if it turns out to be the case. LOL. :P
@lisamarieschnee
@lisamarieschnee 9 жыл бұрын
Teal'c Nah, i've read from this theory on reddit after the last book was released 2012. its just annoying that the mainstream now floods the internet with tinfoil theories with no backup and think that GRRM books are so predictable.
@007NowOnline
@007NowOnline 9 жыл бұрын
Krydda Uhh,.."with no back up".... LOL, whats your definition of back up?. .....I'd say the "back up" this youtube vid has is quotes from the books and show which points the story in this direction. And no, I've never gotten the impression from anyone that thinks GRRM's stories are predictable. No one is simply saying he will rise from the dead... they are pointing out context clues to show you one possible direction this story might be heading towards. They asked a question, did background research and constructed a hypothesis from the information gathered. ..... All they're saying is he still is a candidate for Azor ahai based on current information.
@suemeejim715
@suemeejim715 9 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video and explore the possibility of an Ice Dragon beyond the wall. As you said Mellisandra said that her magic was stronger at the wall and it is known that dragons amplify magical powers so could an ice dragon be beyond the wall? Possibly with the white walkers.
@tabarakiqbal4756
@tabarakiqbal4756 9 жыл бұрын
suemeejim715 The wall is next to the shivering sea, this is where In the latest book of A world of song of ice the ice dragons are stated to have lived around. good point though.
@Radiotomb
@Radiotomb 9 жыл бұрын
In "The Ice Dragon", GRRM states that ice dragons are larger and more powerful than fire breathing dragons. Whatever they touch instantly freezes and never thaws. I like the idea of ice dragons lining up, and the air freezes around them, forming into a 700 ft tall Wall of ice. GRRM already said that there is magic keeping the wall standing. Either way, it's going to come down in book 6. What better way to bring it down then by watching ice dragons burst out from inside.
@suemeejim715
@suemeejim715 9 жыл бұрын
Radiotomb True, but I thought that books setting was different not in the ASOIAF world.
@Playboyshamable
@Playboyshamable 9 жыл бұрын
OMG what if... The wall was this huge back and torsal of a huge ice dragon ;o And suddenly it awakens and he stands up from his sleep, destroying the wall (because he's the wall) and *crazy thoughts*
@erikm6689
@erikm6689 9 жыл бұрын
suemeejim715 A theory I like suggests there's an Ice dragon trapped in the wall. It IS the magic keeping it standing and it is the reason it seems as though it breathes and lives (the wall). As stated by Jon or Sam can't remember who. It would explain a lot. And seeing as these magical horns control dragons and the Horn of Johramun (however it's spelled) is said to bring down the wall. May be what wakes the dragon from its slumber and brings the wall down. Also the fact that Melissanda's magic is stranger at the wall may hint that there is a dragon in the wall, as dragons amplify magic exponentially. :) but It's only a theory.
@JoeParrish
@JoeParrish 8 жыл бұрын
All the greatest heroes have to die in some way in order to become the best version of themselves: Gandalf, Harry Potter, Aslan, Jesus, Odin, Osiris, the Greek heroes having to pass through the underworld. I think Jon will become the most important character following this rite of passage or "katabasis".
@Hasdfgh12321
@Hasdfgh12321 9 жыл бұрын
in an interview George said : "there people have already guessed the secret that i'm gonna reveal in books 6 and book 2 is just out" Now tell me he's not talking about R+L=J
@007NowOnline
@007NowOnline 9 жыл бұрын
Saudi gucci what does he mean by "book 2 is just out"? Book 2 has been out for many years.
@TheThoerlChannel
@TheThoerlChannel 9 жыл бұрын
Teal'c He never said when this interview was conducted ;-)
@ZadeHub
@ZadeHub 9 жыл бұрын
Teal'c The interview was likely just after Book 2 was released.
@007NowOnline
@007NowOnline 9 жыл бұрын
lukazade101 Say Whaa!!..., They must be psychic to be able to predict whats in book 6 with only book 2 being out at the time.
@TheThoerlChannel
@TheThoerlChannel 9 жыл бұрын
Teal'c R+L=J is in its basis pretty much completely based on hints from the first book.
@sofiaa1616
@sofiaa1616 9 жыл бұрын
Actually, in both books and show there is another potential alternative to the use of king's blood to resurrect Jon: Melisandre herself. If you believe the theory that Bloodraven + Shiera Seastar = Melony/Melisandre, then Mel DEFINITELY has kingsblood. Moreover, that would also tie into the "bleeding star" portion of the Azor Ahai prophecy, especially if her surname is Seastar like her mother. Melisandre is the Red Star. Also, do you think "Jon" is even his real birth name? GRRM has said that "Jon" is the name Ned gave him. I heard a cool theory on Radio Westeros that his real name is Aemon Targaryen.
@nickkoch3467
@nickkoch3467 9 жыл бұрын
What
@sofiaa1616
@sofiaa1616 9 жыл бұрын
nick koch Yes?
@definitelynotryan2711
@definitelynotryan2711 9 жыл бұрын
Sofia Alarcon Wow, that's actually interesting. Who could tell Jon his real name though? And is Jon like an acronym for his real name? So much cliffhangers, a man needs S06 and/or The Winds of Winter!
@sofiaa1616
@sofiaa1616 9 жыл бұрын
***** There's no direct evidence for what Jon's real name is, but we can speculate on it based on what could possibly be literary references and symbolism here and there. I would go into it here, but I don't think I could explain it half as well as Radio Westeros did. So I recommend you go to their site and check out their episode on Jon Snow, as well as their other episodes, because they are awesome. As for why Ned chose the name "Jon", it's likely that he named him after Jon Arryn. It could have symbolic meaning to him. This is from Reddit: "Ned's relationship to Arryn parallels the relationship he feels with Snow. Jon Arryn raised Ned like a son even though he was not. Furthermore, when the king (Aerys) called for Ned's head, Lord Arryn raised his banners in rebellion and defied the king to save him. No doubt Ned is defying Robert by hiding the Targaryen's claim to the throne."
@definitelynotryan2711
@definitelynotryan2711 9 жыл бұрын
Sofia Alarcon Thanks! I'll check them out (:
@zanvoy6848
@zanvoy6848 5 жыл бұрын
2:38 oh sweet summer child.
@dominikhajek1910
@dominikhajek1910 8 жыл бұрын
"There would be a second life worthy of a king." Yup.
@Chaos8282
@Chaos8282 9 жыл бұрын
This video ties it all together perfectly man. You one of the writers leaking spoilers under an assumed name? XD Either way you have a new sub.
@AltShiftX
@AltShiftX 9 жыл бұрын
+Chaos8282 Cheers mate!
@rowknan9848
@rowknan9848 8 жыл бұрын
+Alt Shift X I didn't hear a denial... Plus for the third part of your theory could it be possible that due to the extreme power of John's transference to Ghost that he is able to directly interact with Bran to the point of having a verbal conversation?
@xXSinForLifeXx
@xXSinForLifeXx 8 жыл бұрын
I love the moments Mellisandra realises that Snow is the chosen one not stannis her face says it all priceless
@ChillinCT
@ChillinCT 9 жыл бұрын
If George R.R. Martin doesn't resurrect Jon Snow in the upcoming books and in turn the show, then he's a complete fool. In my opinion Jon Snow has more of the end game story on his shoulders than anyone else at this point. Everyone including Daenerys, seem to be more worried about ruling the world,birthrights and lust for power while Jon Snow is on the front lines of the War for the Dawn which is the true threat. He's just too important a character to kill off at this point. If George kills off Jon Snow who seems to be the only symbol of selflessness, honor and justice left then whats the point of reading the rest of the story? Imho, Daenerys and Jon Snow are the two pillars holding the story up and if one falls the whole thing crumbles. Show me one character who can replace Jon Snow that anyone would be happy with, I don't think there will be many recommendations if any. The R+L=J theory has to come into play. I think if he learns hes a Targaryen, a legit Targaryen and not a River then he will seek out Daenerys not only because shes his sister but also because hes going to want to get as many people possible ready for the White Walker invasion and he would be in a perfect position to bring the Wildlings to her side. That's a good chunk of people to get the ball rolling towards end game. If Jon Snow is resurrected I hope its done by Thoros of Myr and not Melisandre because she sucks and Thoros seemed like a much cooler character. Maybe Lady Stoneheart sends Thoros after hearing of Jon's death or maybe Melisandre sends for Thoros personally considering he brought Beric back to life 6 times. There's so many possible resurrection scenarios for Snow, but more than likely it will involve a red priest or priestess. Whatever happens Jon Snow has to comeback otherwise the story wont be the same and not in a good way. Sorry for the rant.
@sofiaa1616
@sofiaa1616 9 жыл бұрын
ChillinCT Don't worry, he's hinted in interviews that Jon will return.
@TorosJake16
@TorosJake16 9 жыл бұрын
Jon is danaerys' nephew. rhaegar is her brother and jons dad.
@Ren99510
@Ren99510 9 жыл бұрын
+ChillinCT Don't be disappointed if he doesn't come back in Season 6 though. I'd prefer they bring him back then but he's not been casted. Of course they could be lying. Either way we'll definitely have our lovely Jon back by season 7.
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 9 жыл бұрын
Wait, has Thoros ever had to "pay" for resurrecting Beric Dondarrion? If I remember correctly, all he's ever done was use the prayer and he's been able to resurrect Dondarrion a bunch of times.
@TheBandy98
@TheBandy98 9 жыл бұрын
Beric was resurrected immediately after he died though.
@2000multipablo
@2000multipablo 9 жыл бұрын
***** Maybe Theon should get an appointment with one of these red priests...
@akrybion
@akrybion 9 жыл бұрын
paul bulimar Only death can pay for sex?
@2000multipablo
@2000multipablo 9 жыл бұрын
akrybion Haha. Worth it.
@OlDurtyGurty
@OlDurtyGurty 9 жыл бұрын
***** I think it did take a lot out of Thoros to do that. In Mel's chapter we see how much of a toll her magic is taking on her but she does her best to hide it.
@PhantomZephyrV
@PhantomZephyrV 8 жыл бұрын
Imagine Jon resurrected with silver Targaryen hair. That would be awesome.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
And gaining a pair of red eyes, making him a spit image of BloodRaven!
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 9 жыл бұрын
I'll say it again, and I'll get mocked for saying it again, you're an amazing video editor. What software do you use?
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 9 жыл бұрын
YMBatal OH NO WAY! KZbin video editor? I bought Corel for no reason.
@FireDevil506
@FireDevil506 9 жыл бұрын
Docktor Jim No it says Toon Boom Studio 8.1 The "Created using" isn't actually what he uses to edit. He says in the description he uses Toon Boom Studio 8.1
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 9 жыл бұрын
Guru Zaheer Thanks!
@UncontainablePickle-_420
@UncontainablePickle-_420 9 жыл бұрын
Jon is Jesus J = J. AAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
@mshamamci
@mshamamci 9 жыл бұрын
UncontainablePickle died reading this
@UncontainablePickle-_420
@UncontainablePickle-_420 9 жыл бұрын
***** Oh and Daenerys would be Moses... She did lead her people through a sea...
@Elround4
@Elround4 9 жыл бұрын
UncontainablePickle All praise the polytheistic snow Jesus, savor of the humanity, slayer of ice demons. *:* D Now then, what does this make Bran? P.S. He still counts as "polytheistic" because a) he is actually polytheistic and b) one could argue using his warging powers and getting those visions is a boon/blessing given by the Old Gods. ; )
@Elround4
@Elround4 9 жыл бұрын
UncontainablePickle Whose the Buddha of GOT? I'd place my bet on Brynden Rivers/the Three eyed crow/raven (e.g. he achieves enlightenment under a tree).
@FinestSeven
@FinestSeven 9 жыл бұрын
UncontainablePickle GET HYPE
@howardho7783
@howardho7783 7 жыл бұрын
I'm rereading the series and have noticed that on more than one occasion it seems like Commander Mormont's bird says "king" while looking at Jon or when Jon walks into a room.
@love_otter
@love_otter 9 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, the description displays in the subscription field, so that's a pretty hardcore spoiler visible without even clicking the video.
@AlexD19931
@AlexD19931 9 жыл бұрын
love_otter Those aren't requirements, those were just things the original Azor Ahai did to bring about Lightbringer that didn't work. I don't think they're necessities to the prophecy.
@love_otter
@love_otter 9 жыл бұрын
I think you're responding to the wrong comment, bro.
@AlexD19931
@AlexD19931 9 жыл бұрын
When I posted it, I had linked to the right one, then I saw this and my shame came into being.
@love_otter
@love_otter 9 жыл бұрын
Shame. *dingding*
@Mystery7932
@Mystery7932 9 жыл бұрын
Why would you sub and not expect spoilers?
@gabriellaureano2570
@gabriellaureano2570 9 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a cross in the show it was Benjen he can shapeshift
@ludiqtitan
@ludiqtitan 8 жыл бұрын
Jon Snow is not coming back. Jon Targaryen tho is probably coming back....or Jon Stark.
@Liverpooooool100
@Liverpooooool100 8 жыл бұрын
+Nikolay Nenov Dobre be moi :D
@xBaDAsSxxLePraCHaUn
@xBaDAsSxxLePraCHaUn 8 жыл бұрын
+Nikolay Nenov i agree i think thats what all the producers mean when they say jon snow isn't coming back
@nani.36
@nani.36 8 жыл бұрын
Jon Starkaryen
@Pedroskini
@Pedroskini 8 жыл бұрын
LOL !!!!
@patrickthepure
@patrickthepure 8 жыл бұрын
Jon Kardashyen
@natalieruegger2609
@natalieruegger2609 9 жыл бұрын
snowflake jesus or bust! the evidence you cite to support your theories peppered with the right amount of humor over your cinnamon-frappe smooth voice.. nothin but love alt shift x!! your videos are truly unrivaled. keep holdin it down and keepin the hope alive for us :)
@AltShiftX
@AltShiftX 9 жыл бұрын
+natalie ruegger Cheers! Will do.
@philingrouille7198
@philingrouille7198 9 жыл бұрын
+Alt Shift X Could you do a theory video on Sweetrobin possibly being Littlefinger's son and not Jon Arryn's? That would be sweet.
@nikunjmajithia1113
@nikunjmajithia1113 9 жыл бұрын
+natalie ruegger Jesus is real and is a kind person he helps and did miracles he is a loving indivaul and is divine u are a messed up sicko mocking him like that learn your stuff
@natalieruegger2609
@natalieruegger2609 9 жыл бұрын
Nikunj Majithia if you follow jesus you'd know he asks you to be Christ-like in your own actions and i don't think that involves calling me a sicko or putting others down in general, maybe YOU should learn your stuff bud. i've got a great relationship with God & i don't think i could get along with anyone who didn't have a badass sense of humor.
@nikunjmajithia1113
@nikunjmajithia1113 9 жыл бұрын
natalie ruegger u mock by saying words like this learn your stuff
@kins1894
@kins1894 2 жыл бұрын
This was my first ever Alt shift X video. I was just a casual tv viewer of the show. After Jons death in S05 I delved in everthing GoT related, and even though I did not read the book, I became an ubber fan of ghe show. And stumbled on this gem. And since then watched every vid.
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh back when we were all sweet summer children…instead of bitter, disappointed and heartbroken ex-fans of the show
@Giglioti
@Giglioti 9 жыл бұрын
In the show, could it be that the burning of Shireen was actually to clear the way back to Castle Black for Melisandre ? Also, I think Theon will be the sacrifice to bring Jon back, he has king's blood since Balon is king of the Iron Islands and it could serve as atonement for his betrayal of the Starks.
@mshamamci
@mshamamci 9 жыл бұрын
Giglioti Good point I like it
@cplogesh
@cplogesh 9 жыл бұрын
Giglioti nope theon has bigger fish to fry in iron islands...
@Giglioti
@Giglioti 9 жыл бұрын
logesh palani In the books, I agree but in the show seems unlikely
@GeekFurious
@GeekFurious 9 жыл бұрын
Giglioti I'm all for the Theon theory. There is no way Shireen is the sacrifice that brings Jon back. I don't see the Lord of Light accepting the blood of an innocent unless they volunteer themselves for that sacrifice. The point is made when Stannis loses everything for doing it.
@ColinsBaldGrandma
@ColinsBaldGrandma 9 жыл бұрын
Giglioti but they are adding the greyjoy uncles next season...
@BasLindo
@BasLindo 8 жыл бұрын
How has nobody pointed out that Melisandre burns Shireen "to clear the snow" - clear the Snow perhaps? I say R'hllor intended for her to burn Shireen in order for the fire to melt the Snow. leaving Jon Targaryen. I say she doesn't actively resurrect Jon, as we have no indication that Melisandre is aware of the ability to resurrect people. Instead I think they will burn Jon on a funeral pyre, and he will then rise from the flames (akin to Daenerys in S01E10), even to Melisandre surprise. I both hope and predict this.
@heroplaya4230
@heroplaya4230 4 жыл бұрын
3 years later, that’s a good theory man. Really really hope that happens
@akh_98
@akh_98 3 жыл бұрын
12:46 "And that the next book is going to be a hell of a read." Yeah, sure.
@Alias24288
@Alias24288 7 жыл бұрын
it's amazing how spot on all your theories are.
@filipferencak2717
@filipferencak2717 4 жыл бұрын
Alt Shift X (2:43): "Surely you don't have an awesome stand off like this only to not have a payoff later on." D&D: "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention."
@Mf7d89
@Mf7d89 9 жыл бұрын
Man I admire how much effort you put into editing your videos, it must be a pain! bravo its appreciated
@PKPK-rr3rs
@PKPK-rr3rs 8 жыл бұрын
I think you just gave George RR Martin some inspiration
@AmethystEyes
@AmethystEyes 9 жыл бұрын
And technically if R+L=J is true, he would have a stronger claim than Dany. As him being born of the first son of a Targaryen ruler his living lineage would have claim before Dany.
@loljoli235
@loljoli235 8 жыл бұрын
No fucking way!!! I just saw this video among my "suggestion" list two hours ago, and then....... HOLY SHIT!!!
@lilgoldenbuddy
@lilgoldenbuddy 8 жыл бұрын
I am still screaming.
@lizbathory7483
@lizbathory7483 8 жыл бұрын
+Stephanie Douranakis I am still crying xD of happines!.
@0ctalpus
@0ctalpus 8 жыл бұрын
You were right, the whole time! - Jon Snow
@playermartin286
@playermartin286 5 жыл бұрын
Even thinking about going out and buying WINDS i get a warm feeling in my belly
@guccirat6108
@guccirat6108 3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that game of thrones was discontinued after season 7.
@Nobod51
@Nobod51 2 жыл бұрын
Man of culture , here we met again
@Simfyre
@Simfyre 8 жыл бұрын
I like somewhat not knowing what will happen until it happens, but theorizing is so much fun. This is the most intelligent interpretation and educated guess about what will happen that I have listened to so far. Will be interesting to see how it plays out compared to these ideas.
@BiteThis
@BiteThis 6 жыл бұрын
My Theory for the books, (since show fucked this up.) Stannis defeats the Boltons and claims Winterfell. After he hears of Jon's death he declares him a true Stark (like he had offered Jon before) and has his body brought to Winterfell to lay in the Crypts with the other Starks. Meanwhile he has Theon captured at Winterfell, somehow Lady Stoneheart hears of this and heads to Winterfell to kill him ( she thinks he killed Bran and Rickon) She will be well accepted there due to melisandre, since she rides with the red priest. There Stannis will let her execute Theon since he planned on doing it anyway (Whether she kills Theon or doesn't effect the main theory), and she will discover Jon is dead. In an ironic twist she will give Jon the kiss of life, trading her life for the boy she despised and hated.
@warpedlion
@warpedlion 3 жыл бұрын
"Surely you don't have an awesome stand off like this without without payoff later on" 😫
@osmanneitorPeteSeguroWasho
@osmanneitorPeteSeguroWasho 8 жыл бұрын
HE IS FUCKING BACK
@AllucB
@AllucB 8 жыл бұрын
Jon Targaryen has risen
@Y.AG.123AFG
@Y.AG.123AFG 9 жыл бұрын
For fucks sake, yes he will return, white walkers have business with him they cant just kill off a character like him besides melisandre wants jon snows D so she will most likely bring him back like she did to beric dondarion when the hound killed him
@titirak2550
@titirak2550 8 жыл бұрын
she didnt it wasnt her
@leonetheboss5558
@leonetheboss5558 7 жыл бұрын
Mayeb her power increases because she's closer to the white walkers, I think their gods are linked so that makes some sense (In my head)
@noel12th
@noel12th 9 жыл бұрын
Just like the rest of your videos, this one is first class. Can't wait to see what's next!
@montymont4192
@montymont4192 Жыл бұрын
7 years later and were no closer to gettin the new book
@tylermccail157
@tylermccail157 9 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just paused it at 10:13 to say that I've been watching every, "Jon Snow will return," video I can find, and this one is already the best. I have been thinking that Jon must learn of his parentage before or at the very moment of his resurrection, because having him come back to life as plain old Jon Snow, and allowing *any* time to go by before revealing his parentage, would be devastatingly anticlimactic. He must be Jon Targaryen, at the moment he opens his eyes. Even having him learn who his parents are, later in the same episode in which he's brought back, would be clunky, unbelievable and just kind of stupid lol.
@ryanr.5158
@ryanr.5158 9 жыл бұрын
King Werewolf Jesus-Dragon wielding a burning sword who suffers from time travelling tree-hallucinations? Sign me the fuck up.
@kefkapalazzo1
@kefkapalazzo1 8 жыл бұрын
Melisandre is such an interesting character
@TrialByDance
@TrialByDance 8 жыл бұрын
Omfg. In S6E1, Ghost was Jon the whole time. He's there to defend his own body.
@Harsh-Pandit
@Harsh-Pandit 4 жыл бұрын
God knows where rickon is😂 that was funny
@zablujnc
@zablujnc 8 жыл бұрын
Jon having the fleshback of his parentage would give a reason for the Tower of Joy scene.
@dorsal-qb5fr
@dorsal-qb5fr 9 жыл бұрын
Melisandre dying? Count me out. I love Mel! Although, her blood would undoubtedly make a freaking lightsaber out of Longclaw!!!
@nasar12345678
@nasar12345678 8 жыл бұрын
+Martin Clément but shes hot !They should not exclude her from the rest rest of the seasons!
@giuliaderboss6988
@giuliaderboss6988 8 жыл бұрын
+dorsal 2008 I hate her. I just hate her and want her to die. She is so false and hypocritical. You have a strange taste.
@dorsal-qb5fr
@dorsal-qb5fr 8 жыл бұрын
Giulia der Boss Guilty! (Heheh)
@mattgames7543
@mattgames7543 8 жыл бұрын
+dorsal 2008 I love the character, but I don't like her, but I do at the same time. She is willing to make sacrifices along the way, and I don't like that. But she is (or she appears to be) doing it all for the good of the realm, or the world they live in, much like Varys. And that is what is amazing about the characters in this series. They are not clear cut good and evil, they all have a bit of both. Just like real humans, no fairy tales over here. These books and seasons are the most real things I have seen and read tbh.
@dorsal-qb5fr
@dorsal-qb5fr 8 жыл бұрын
MattGames The thing I love most about Melisandre is that her character demands your attention whenever she's on the screen because you're always wondering what crazy thing she's about to do or say next.
@TruePower44
@TruePower44 8 жыл бұрын
hope youre right, jon is my favourite character
@zainalmustaqim5379
@zainalmustaqim5379 8 жыл бұрын
i am more focus watching and hearing this 'lecture' other than the real lecture in college.
@SaudiHaramco
@SaudiHaramco 9 жыл бұрын
I don't get why so many people think that Jon is going to sit the iron throne. Why? Even if he's the son of Rhaegar a.) he is still a bastard, b.) he has no proof and c.) why would anyone care? Why should the Reach, Westerlands or the Stormlands or anyone except the North support him to rule Kings Landing? I think he's gonna play a huge part in defeating the Others but i just don't see him sitting any throne whatsoever.
@djj1259
@djj1259 9 жыл бұрын
113Robinho Because he looks like a real king than any other in Westeros a true king must recognize the threat , and show strength, to make decisions . I 'm not a fan av Jon Snow but in season 4 & 5 , he showed more than any kings in Westeros. And if he is a bastard or not does not matter more , Tommen is a bastard and is still a king , a bad king in my eyes .
@SaudiHaramco
@SaudiHaramco 9 жыл бұрын
djj 125 None of that matters though. If noone supports him, he's not gonna be king. And there is no reason for people in the south to support him at all. I'm not saying Jon shouldn't be king but i just don't see it happening.
@SaudiHaramco
@SaudiHaramco 9 жыл бұрын
Shakira Daley Well this would mean nobody knows of it and therefore nobody would believe it. I personally think that the R+L=J story is just important for Jon himself as well as for the reader and has no influence on the politics in ASOIAF.
@SaudiHaramco
@SaudiHaramco 9 жыл бұрын
Shakira Daley Well i do assume we will get it confirmed and probably Jon will know about his parents in the end as well. But i just don't think that the Lords of Dorne, the Reach, Strormlands, Westerlands, Riverlands, Iron Islands and the Vale would either believe it nor care about it if it was true.
@btsblackswan9274
@btsblackswan9274 9 жыл бұрын
113Robinho well u maybe right but i think he's azor ahai and people will believe azor ahai and no one knows azor ahai , and if jon goes to war with an army and he defeats people , others will come with him and people will start to believe he is that fucking azor ahai and for the ruler there is dany maybe she is the promised prince even is she's sgirl no one cares and she will marry jon snow maybe and then i can die in an actual peace way , i need this to end soon before rr martin dies
@tonytorres2620
@tonytorres2620 9 жыл бұрын
You are not as peppy as the other youtube reviewers, or as "exciting", but you are MASTERFUL. Your insights are almost scientific due to the way you present evidence and several levesl above the competition. Wish I had found you a LOT earlier. Thank you for your work.
@KaskDaxxe
@KaskDaxxe 9 жыл бұрын
Can we just get rid of d&d and replace him w/ this guy? I'm also prepared to do a group stabbing in the style of the nights watch, "for the books."
@justinhughes619
@justinhughes619 9 жыл бұрын
Kask Daxxe No.
@KaskDaxxe
@KaskDaxxe 9 жыл бұрын
Justin Hughes why not
@m33tballa
@m33tballa 2 жыл бұрын
After rewatching this video it made me realize that its strange that mel was able to resurrect john in the snow no problem. In every other example in the show and book obvi theres always a price to magic, its blood magic. I think in the book its going to be much more sacrificial and bittersweet when jon comes back
@infofreaks527
@infofreaks527 3 жыл бұрын
How can something be as great as ASOIAF
@pricklyhotto7904
@pricklyhotto7904 8 жыл бұрын
He Did bro. Lord Commander Jon Snow is alive
@Captain-Axeman
@Captain-Axeman 5 жыл бұрын
After GOT season 8?
@nadak7826
@nadak7826 5 жыл бұрын
Well Ned Stark kinda promised Jon when they meet again he will reveal who is Jon’s mother. So maybe Bran will send him a vision of “promise me Ned” and Ned will finally be able to tell him.
@TheOrderOfThePurple
@TheOrderOfThePurple 8 жыл бұрын
"Ned get beheaded, Robb gets red wed-ed" Is actually a rhyme in my upcoming mix tape
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no, the idea that Jon might be within Ghost, observing everything Melisandre does to try and bring him back, and ends up watching Shireen burn through Ghost's eyes as the last thing he sees before his resurrection sounds like it would be one hell of a trauma. I can just imagine they've chained Ghost up or something, and throughout the entire ritual Ghost is struggling against the chains, whining, trying to reach the pyre to save the little girl.
@courtesyof24
@courtesyof24 9 жыл бұрын
I love these. They make so much sense
@OnePieceTheorist
@OnePieceTheorist 9 жыл бұрын
Sam - "He always returns"..also we still have to see Jon's and Ned's talk about Jon's mother..maybe Jon will warg(dream) something about Ned,but it will be reality..also it's said that Robb become direwolf in the night..well it's not Robb,it's Jon who will become direwolf in the Night..
@chyawanprash
@chyawanprash 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just point out that, after Jon dies, he will be Ghost. There's some symbolism.
@Radiotomb
@Radiotomb 9 жыл бұрын
Jon will wake Ice Dragons from inside the wall. GRRM already wrote about it in his short story "The Ice Dragon". Look it up.
@MeghanBelhumeur
@MeghanBelhumeur 2 жыл бұрын
“Surely you don’t have a stand-off like this and not have it pay off later on” Oh my sweet summer child…
@salcidogrijalva
@salcidogrijalva 4 жыл бұрын
It just sad to watch this kind of videos and realizing how great and deep this books are and the show wasted and disrespected almost everything in that last season
@jamiegrech8747
@jamiegrech8747 8 жыл бұрын
A major clue contributing to a likely return of Jon would be that he's Robb's heir; Robb's will named Jon Snow as his successor, legitimising him and entitling him to the Stark name and position as head of the family, and Lord of Winterfell. As mentioned more than once in A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, a legitimised bastard typically reverses the colours of their banner, as seen in the context of the Blackfrye rebellion. The Stark banner is a grey wolf on a white background - if we reverse this, we're left with...A White Wolf on a grey banner. That sounds like quite a subtle, but important clue that GRRM might have included in the texts. If we take this into account, together with the prophecies and Melisandre's visions in the flames (man to wolf to man again, warging to avoid death before taking back a revived body?), and the voiding of the Watch's vows (since he technically died), we're left with a Jon Stark who is able to march under a banner of a White Wolf. That's just too good to be a coincidence...
@bwy553
@bwy553 8 жыл бұрын
I really think this is going to happen, or similar. It all makes sense. Because, the R+L=J thing, I feel that it might actually be true. Think about it, Ned Stark was so honorable, that he basically sacrificed his life in an effort to bring out the truth of Joffery's birth so that he could get Cersei punished for her crimes and Joffery removed from the throne, just because it was true. This cost him everything and his family everything. But he was so honorable, that he just HAD to put his DUTY and HONOR before everything else. So, would a man THAT honorable really break his wedding vows? Someone who has the will to put his honor before his LIFE and FAMILY? That's not the kind of man who throws away a vow for a night of warmth and passion. So, what if Lyanna DIDN'T LOVE ROBERT, but instead she LOVED RAYGAR? His father may have prevented the union because Targaryeans usually wed either princesses or their sisters to keep the line pure, and she was already promised to Robert, so maybe they staged a "kidnapping" so they could be together. Then, when they found them, maybe her death was an accident or something. Then, Ned, being the honorable man that he was would have been confronted with a problem. His loyalty to Robert, or his duty to his family. He wouldn't have wanted to kill his sister's son, but he would also have to betray Robert, because if the boy was truly a Targaryean, Robert would have wanted to kill him for 3 reasons: Number 1: He's a Targaryean. He ordered Stannis to kill Varys and Daenareyous (however you spell these names) even though they were children because he hated Targaryeans and, Number 2: Anyone with Targaryean blood was a threat to the claim of a Baratheon to the throne. Many people still regard Robert as a usurper. Many people would support the claim of a Targaryean son to the throne. And, number three, he would have wanted to kill the boy because he wouldn't accept the fact that Lyanna was with Raygar of her own accord, because to him, Lyanna was HIS love so she MUST feel the same way. So, the dilemma for Ned would have been: Do I let them know this is Raygar and Lyanna's son, thus killing the boy who is my sister's child, or do I pass this off as my son TO PROTECT HIM FOR MY SISTER, even though I will have to lie to and hurt my wife TO ALSO PROTECT THE REST OF MY FAMILY from the wrath of the Baratheons. Maybe his sister even asked him to protect her son before she died. So, Ned passes the son off as his bastard. Allowing a smirch on his reputation for the sake of his sister. You can see how it pains him when his wife brings up his "betrayal" of her with another woman, he wants to let her know Jon is not really his, but he can't because that would put the boy and his wife and other children in danger. Especially since he'd been lying to the king for YEARS now. And, of course, he could never let the boy know his true heritage, either, lest he get himself killed trying to fight Robert and bring war to the realm trying to claim the throne in the name of his true father. So, he brings him up as his bastard and keeps a lie that kills him inside because of his honor. All to protect family and realm.
@bwy553
@bwy553 8 жыл бұрын
+beige wyng Sorry for the letter. Had to get that off my chest.
@SolidShepard
@SolidShepard 8 жыл бұрын
your logic is assuming the old Ned we saw in season 1 was always that honorable. you think he didn't make a few mistakes as a younger man? hell, maybe he had sex with Rhaegars wife at some point for a sense of revenge.....when he returned the sword of the morning baby jon was there and he returned with him. this would still meet the ice and fire concept. and Jon was born of fire and stone/aka direct result of war. it fits, and works, just not the way most thought.
@SolidShepard
@SolidShepard 8 жыл бұрын
+Solid Shepard "you may not have my name, but you have MY blood.".
@bwy553
@bwy553 8 жыл бұрын
Solid Shepard If he was Ned's sister's son, the he would also have Ned's blood.
@TheMarkofZio
@TheMarkofZio 8 жыл бұрын
+beige wyng I like the way you think feller
@wayzel1
@wayzel1 8 жыл бұрын
the ways R=L=J can be revealed. Howland Reed, Brandon Stark visions, Ashara Dayne through Ned Stark, Jojen and Myra Reed through Howland Reed, or any person Rhaegar Targaryan told about his son to be prior to his death at the trident. Shall we remember that in fiction and character can reveal anything at any time based on good writing :)
@kakoulaki7704
@kakoulaki7704 8 жыл бұрын
I believe that john will definetely come back.Melisandre may bring him back to life,or he can warg(is that how we say it?)into ghost.But i have also another theory.I think that they will burn him and because he is half targeryen his body will remain untouched ....i know that targaryens are not immune to fire but like dany he can do once in his lifetime sth...outstanding sth like a miracle and if they burn him with his sword there it is...the lightbringer....otherwise how will john learn who his true parents are?just a theory that it would be reallyy cool in my opinion :)
@1xTheDarkKnightx1
@1xTheDarkKnightx1 8 жыл бұрын
+Mary Calovan it's not the same if Kit Harrington ( jons actor ) isn't there in his human body
@colvamoon6962
@colvamoon6962 8 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Jon will be back, but easily not the same man he once was. They keep saying that Jon Snow is 'dead' and they are right. Now, before I go any further, let ne produce two pieces of evidence that support my theory. One: Jon's talk with Stannis, how he planned to make Jon a Stark if he supported him. And two: Jon's talk with maester Aemon. Aemon said 'Kill the boy, and let the man be born.' With Jon Snow's death, the boy has died, and, with a little help from Melisandre, the man Jon Stark, will be born.
@laurenrosales915
@laurenrosales915 8 жыл бұрын
I love this
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
I consider this a correct theory, but if we remember that Varamyr only got out of the first animal he warged after they killed it and that Theon will probably be executed by Stannis (go check up the TWOW preview chapter from Theon's perspective), I think that Ghost, Theon and Shireen will be killed in order for mixing greenseer magic (BloodRaven or Bran can make Jon get out of Ghost with skinchanging abilities before Ghost is killed), Ice magic (his body can pass through the magic the Others use to create the Army of the Dead and BR can convince Stannis to execute Theon with the purpose of make Jon's body not pass through this state with Theon's King's Blood and House Greyjoy has descendency of the First Men) and Fire Magic (similar to Beric and Catelyn's ressurrections, but different and better because when Beric and Catelyn returned, part of their souls went out, Jon's soul has been put in a second life, so when he returns his memories would remain intact, but not his behavior and Mel receive visions of BloodRaven or Bran to ressurrect Jon in a way that never happened and she burns Shireen to ressurrect his body in a better shape than that of Ice and/or Fire wights and the Baratheons have King's Blood via his founder having the blood of Old Valyria and Dragonkings) to ressurrect Jon Snow and it would've parallel the awakening of Dany's dragons: Melisandre = Mirri Maz Duur Shireen = Rhaego Theon = Drogo Ghost = the horse that Mirri killed in order to try to bring Drogo back Dany getting out of the pyre alive with her dragon eggs hatched = Jon getting out of Ghost and returning to his ressurrected body Dany putting Mirri on Drogo's funeral pyre and, thus, making the dragon eggs hatching= Jon stabbing Mel in the heart with Longclaw and turning into Lightbringer!
@treygon11
@treygon11 9 жыл бұрын
i think John snow wont be back next season... BUT i think John Targaryen will be one of the "new" carrecters we get to meet.. or should i say Aemon Targaryen ;)
@sofiaa1616
@sofiaa1616 9 жыл бұрын
Magicfire productions Thank you! I love that theory as well. I'm surprised there aren't more theories out there on Jon's real name. Hardly anyone online seems to question whether "Jon" is his name.
@lolroflundxd
@lolroflundxd 9 жыл бұрын
+Sofia Alarcon Is there any evidence or hints whatsoever to support any name?
@sofiaa1616
@sofiaa1616 9 жыл бұрын
a achmed Mostly just fan speculation on what kind of name Rhaegar and/or Lyanna would have chosen. Some fans think that it might be "Viserys" because they assume that Rhaegar wanted a "Visenya" to complete the trio, and "Viserys" is the male version of that name. There's no concrete evidence supporting one particular name. However, there might be some literary clues that point to one name: Aemon. That's my favorite theory. I recommend checking out Radio Westeros's episode on Jon, because they explain it very well.
@istrychalski
@istrychalski 9 жыл бұрын
+a achmed it's kind of fan speculation, because remember when Jon was trying to run away from the Watch in book 1, he thought to himself "I'm not Aemon Targaryen". There's also evidence that bookish Rhaegar and Maester Aemon were big nerd buddies, so it would make sense for Rhaegar to name his son after his favorite uncle. All fun theorizing. Not that a different first name changes much.
@sofiaa1616
@sofiaa1616 9 жыл бұрын
Krystian Gajdzis Well, yeah. I agree. Like I said, I tend to favor the "Aemon" theory. It's the strongest one.
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