Will the stalled steam locomotive make it up Milwaukee roads steepest grade or not?

[@viktordubowskii695]

Excellent stack talk, love the sound. I will I could put it into continuous loop and play it over an over. It puts me to sleep.

[@jwilliams8210]

That was a great video.

[@atsfevan0242]

Never thought I'd see a tank engine with a water tender

[@7822welshsteam]

Steam locomotives have incredible tractive effort. Just about the only thing that holds them back is limited adhesion.

[@wwrr98]

Actually, they have great continuous tractive effort. It doesn't decrease as speed increases. The TE is the same no matter the speed. A diesel starts with impressive starting tractive effort, but continuous tractive effort is a lot lower. A steam locomotive can move a train it can't start, a diesel locomotive can start a train it can't move

[@ajstevenson4181]

@@wwrr98 Then why not just use diesels to pull stuff and steam to keep it moving?

[@wwrr98]

@@ajstevenson4181 because it was much cheaper to hook 2, 3, 4, or more diesels together and have one engineer controlling the entire lash up. As a single unit, diesel can't move heavy trains fast. But, hooked together, not a problem. One of the many huge advantages diesel-electric has over steam. Less crews, and less maintenance

[@harrypenn611]

What an epic noise

[@marvinwatkins8889]

"I think I can, I think I can, I think. ...well, on second thought."

[@cellogirl11rw55]

marvin watkins Yes, I can!

[@southwestvirginiarailfan729]

5:32 mark. When your trying to go forward & your going backwards, you might have a problem.

[@summitsp]

Tom, isn't the main problem too much fire for the traction?

[@travelingtom923]

No it was really two problems. The first it was raining which made the rails slippery. The second was the locomotive sanders were not working. On dry rail it probably wouldn't have had as much trouble. They did remove one car after this run and it didn't have any problems getting up the hill after that.

[@summitsp]

Yes, I read your explanation about the rain and sanders. My thought was that for most of the video there was nothing happening except for frequent release of steam, making it appear that there was too much fire under the boiler, probably built up in preparation for the grade. Once the locomotive starts moving and draft is increased it seems that the fire would start to increase again thus pressure would rise overcoming the reduced traction easily.

[@davidkoehler136]

and on a curve!

[@anthonynigri8585]

It made it it's like the little engine that could with a tender

[@johndonlan5956]

Tom, how steep is that grade?

[@travelingtom923]

3.8%.

[@kainhall]

8:27 what the hell was that boom?

[@travelingtom923]

That's strange. I never noticed that before. There is a Air force base not too far away. Sounds like a sonic boom.

[@renegadeoflife87]

Some safety valves make snorting or thumping sounds when they shut. The sound coincides with the engine's safety valve closing, so maybe it snorted and that's what the camera's microphone turned it into.

[@opecno8108]

Definitely sonic boom It's happened a couple of times over my freaking house, sounds like a stick of TNT going off beside you

[@joeblow593]

Horn show at end was cool.

[@djbruno6730]

It's a steam whistle

[@Ironhorse27]

Is she using Porter #5's tender for the run? I thought 17 was a saddle tanker...

[@travelingtom923]

Yes that is the number #5's tender. If I remember right, #17 could only make one round trip with her saddle tank before she had to fill up with water. So adding the extra tender was a good idea.

[@RamVohre-i2y]

आईं ❤ स्टीम इंजन! राम

[@dennissorensen9320]

Why overload a single engine when you know that hill is a challenge...?

[@travelingtom923]

It has made it before. Today was not a good day for it.

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

answer: just!

[@evanf1293]

Isn't the steam locomotive seen getting a rebuild???

[@travelingtom923]

I believe it is currently operational.

[@harrybobb6764]

@@travelingtom923 let's fire up NYC 999 queen of speed steam locomotive and get her back under steam and operational condition and get the NYC steam locomotive 999 out of the science and industry museum and start taking her on excursions and get the NYC steam Locomotive 999 back into freight service

[@travelingtom923]

@@harrybobb6764 That sounds like a very good idea to me.

[@harrybobb6764]

@@travelingtom923 but how can I start getting a hold of railroad historical society areas to get that locomotive NYC 999 out if the science and industry of Chicago to get restored and fired 🔥 up and running again for excursions and get it back into freight service once again the last time the NYC 999 was fired up was back in 1957 and it's time for her to be put back under steam and put it back to work for what it was built for ?

[@travelingtom923]

@@harrybobb6764 Unfortunately that will never happen as much of the museum was built around the exhibits and there is no way to remove them. Also that is a very historical and one of a kind locomotive. Probably far to valuable to risk something happening to it if it was restored and run. Building a replica would be more realistic and such a small engine probably wouldn't cost as much as you would think.

[@bobcornford3637]

It's not stalled..... it's lack of adhesion.

[@aarondivel1752]

Bob Cornford One of the contributing factors to stalling

[@bobcornford3637]

Aaron Divel No it isn't. Stalling is full adhesion with insufficient power to turn the wheels.

[@aarondivel1752]

Bob Cornford To stall means to not move for a period of time. It's why horse stalls are called stalls. It's why when someone asks why you're late and you say i was stalled in traffic. It's why bays are also called stalls. No matter how it happens stalling is just a way of saying stoping for a period of time my dude.

[@bobcornford3637]

Aaron Divel you may have a command of English but you have no idea about mechanical matters, or of manners for that matter. I'm not a dude nor yours, so don't address me as such.

[@aarondivel1752]

Bob Cornford Sorry to trigger you. I shall adress you as human person. It has nothing to do with mechanical matters. The litteral deffinition is to stop or cause stop to making progress. Google searched. So how is slipping to the point of impeading motion not stalling? And what does any of this have to do with mechanical know how? If you're just trolling that's cool but you're acting serious.

[@lucianovazquez914]

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[@russrichards3691]

This is done for a thrill to make the passengers think ARE WE GUNNA MAKE IT?....Every loco has a sandbox in front of each drive wheel and all they have to do is open the sandbox to put some sand on the tracks in front of the drive wheels to give the loco traction

[@travelingtom923]

No this was a real stall. The sanders were not working. As shown in the video the crew had to manually sand the rail. Later one of the crew is on the front of the locomotive dropping sand on the rail. It's not very exciting to be on a train when it stalls.

[@russrichards3691]

well I have driven locos on steep hills and what you do is walk about 100m up the line, then the train will have momentum and will keep going so the driver is just to lazy to do what it needs

[@russrichards3691]

putting sand on the line for 100m

[@aarondivel1752]

Man on a wet day on a curve and grade like that that poor engine was on it's knees on a sheet of oily ice. It's not for show trains do stall. This isn't train simulator my dude.