WILL THERE BE AN ATMOSPHERE? 👀 Simon Jordan & Frank Warren CLASH over Saudi atmosphere! | talkSPORT

[@user-yr9hl2mk5h]

“I’m into boxing your into listening to crowds” 🤣🤣🤣 belter

[@Crsigox001]

Exactly if you're problem is the crowd when we are getting the big fights you got issues

[@d.b.cooper1]

To be fair these fights started at 12am-3am Sunday morning which by our standards is 12am-3am Monday as saudi weekend is FridayS-Saturday. The crowd got smaller from first few fights till the main event which is other way round but makes sense as people have work next day. Sure atmosphere won't be mega, Saudi's love WWE which is their national 'combat' sport not boxing.

[@justinlanger7109]

Growing up there was always goosebumps for big Vegas fights and last few years at the O2 and the atmosphere and crowd played a big part in that which Frank is aware of. Money talks though so Frank denies it.

[@kevinb9830]

@@Crsigox001 It is a problem. There's no excitement at these fights.

[@kevinb9830]

@@d.b.cooper1 I doubt most of the locals in attendance were hard working labourers...

[@gehehbeebhehehsh9484]

Elephant in the room. The crowd weren’t pissed up or coked off their face. Hence completely different atmosphere

[@mrbig9595]

That’s about right

[@Asianmilli]

Valid point

[@Smj1303]

True to some degree but British people are just a lot more rowdy than Saudis who would send a glass eye to sleep 😂 give me the rowdy Brit’s any day for a big fight 👍

[@marcusmarshall8357]

Talk sport ain’t daft they no the reasons. Simon is paid to rattle frank it’s good for the viewers

[@neverfeartruth6460]

Conor was coked out of his ever loving mind! 🤣

[@StevenGarvey-ft6sk]

Atmosphere was shite. Can’t compete with Wembley Glad the lads picked on this

[@Alex-bd4ov]

So what if it was? 😂😂😂

[@neverfeartruth6460]

Of course not, it's a completely different culture. There isn't Alcohol allowed in Saudi. Sports/Concerts etc...& Booze go hand in hand.

[@HaroldSeaman]

There was that little atmosphere on the night that it took me two rounds to realise the sound had gone out on dazn

[@adamjones90]

No you could hear a pin drop at certain times. Was awfully quiet because they are not like english or American fans who watch boxing on a regular basis. Frank is very argumentative & wont let anybody make negative criticism. Needs to calm down

[@donaldduck5553]

He really cannot take criticism at all can he! Proper trait of a narcissist

[@TheHarrythomas]

Who cares about the audience. We got a great night of boxing

[@BrianBoru5523]

Well mannered = charmless.

[@r.p.mcmurphy22]

What exactly do you expect frank to do about it???

[@kiely4561]

These Saudi events look pretty to the eye and they have created a positive impact in some aspects, we would have never seen Eddie and Frank working together had it not been for this middle eastern money, but yes the lack of crowd atmosphere is a big problem in combat sports where it goes hand in hand, it’s the crowd that gives it that big time feeling and can even influence how fighters fight in the ring, there were times in that big Saudi event where you could hear a pin drop even in the wilder and Joshua fights, it definitely is a problem but with so much money flying around out there I don’t see anyone complaining about it.

[@DanielC19745]

The night Furys resume took a kicking without even fighting.

[@joshladd5073]

No it didn’t it did if u dnt know boxing

[@DanielC19745]

@@joshladd5073 yes it did, his best win since coming back got washed by b-level Parker, and Wallin who bust his face in 2 wasn’t remotely competitive with AJ

[@surfingpasty8]

@@DanielC19745 you haven't got a clue pal, go back to watching football

[@DanielC19745]

@@surfingpasty8 explain how sh*t for brains I’ll wait…..

[@JamieB237]

Frazier got put down 6 times by Foreman and stopped. Frazier beat Ali. Does Ali’s resume take a kicking?

[@CharmingReality]

It was quiet to watch, undeniably. There wasn’t the stadium excitement you’d feel viscerally when watching a fight on tv that’s broadcast from the York Hall, the MEN, O2, Madison Sq Garden, Vegas, or Wembley. But having said that it will take time. Those arenas all have years of history and experience. The Saudis need to be applauded for what they’ve achieved. TalkSport (or rather Simon and Jim), are there to stir, be contrary and find fault, as opposed to complementary, as per. Overall it was a quality card from top to bottom and the atmosphere is understandably a work in progress, which can improve over time.

[@happyguilmore4253]

O2 years of history 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. It’s the fans what you on?

[@filmc1999]

Cretin. The fans create the atmosphere. And yeah, the O2. Years of history? I want a drag of what you've got in your pipe.

[@mrbipolarmattyhoward6071]

Warren just won't take any criticism it was a different atmosphere.

[@DaleSteel]

Didn't bother me watching on TV didn't even notice

[@dooda77penn19]

I could be wrong but I don't think you can get a beer in Saudi so the atmosphere ain't gonna be as good,😂😂😂

[@jimeley2580]

​@@dooda77penn19why do you need a beer to watch something?

[@mrbipolarmattyhoward6071]

@@dooda77penn19 I don't drink but I no what you mean 🤣

[@billdoor3140]

​@@jimeley2580it helps people unwind. If Saudi wannabe a tourist venue they need to stop acting like 15th century religious nuts

[@Airyed]

I love that Frank and Eddie are finally seeing that IFL and Talksport just bring negativity and gossip girl storylines that damage the sport

[@JamieLowe-xp1le]

Fair but let’s be honest Frank and Eddie have been negative with each other for many many years refused to work with eachother until the Saudis arrived.

[@AM2K2]

How sensitive...the second they receive pushback or an alternative view...they start crying 🤣The atmosphere was rubbish - fact

[@jakecook4816]

Frank and Eddie to the self proclaimed best boxing promotors in the world and can’t get fury and Joshua to fight eachother for about 5 years. Money grabbing bastards

[@Alex-bd4ov]

They want lunatics in the crowd. 😂😂😂

[@george1645]

Why is the british media always so overly pessimistic, critical, negative, whiny and entitled?

[@jasonantigua6825]

They have been allowed to get away with it! Thats why! The 2 English muffins here are a typical example of that!

[@leonhughes9014]

to be fair there was no atmosphere .... there's no excitement .....

[@calchedz]

You can hear the punches landing better

[@babyamy3884]

Because if you don’t how are you ment to try and improve certain things Entitled is the wrong word nobody thinks there entitled Sport is just a big thing in the uk especially boxing and football

[@MJRYT19]

​@@jasonantigua6825one is scottish 🤝

[@garyblackburn6046]

No atmosphere spoiling watching the big fights

[@TheJVCMan]

I think Frank is 100% correct this time. It seems like these jokers are just looking to create a reaction from Frank and picking at things just to spark things up. The event was great, maybe the atmosphere wasn't the best at times but that always happens in the early fights on almost all undercards. The main events were great with the crowd really vocal. This is such a moot point and is a clear effort to find any old thing to get a reaction from Frank.

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

Absolutely agree !! No wonder people are starting to ignore talk sport

[@bttb6792]

Moot* point. But I agree. It annoys me on boxing and even ufc events that most people just ignore the early fights. It's half empty up until the main card starts and the front seats only seem to fill up for the last 2 or 3 fights.

[@winstoncharles2712]

Can we not just be thankful we now get fights in our time zone, we will make our own atmosphere down the pub with no lock in required 🍻

[@cjc1898]

The atmosphere was utter garbage from start to finish. Sounded like Boxing in a cemetary. Boring.

[@kadafikhan2468]

Two good points Frank made was the crowd is neutral and some fighters are not well known.. Remeber this is a boxing start for the Saudis.. Atmosphere will get better as the people get familiar with boxing and fighters

[@dirtyboxxinghabbitz6363]

Is it me or was there no 1 there even at the main event there was alot of empty chairs

[@chrisbax760]

They all went to watch wilder… wasn’t bothered about aj

[@Barnzy213]

@@chrisbax760And now no one gives af about Wilder😂😂

[@dirtyboxxinghabbitz6363]

@@chrisbax760 no it was reall empty at the wilder fight

[@chrisbax760]

@@Barnzy213 very true 😂

[@trollerbater12321]

It feels like Simon only looks for the negative in something rather than both positive and negative. Is he miserable or just british?

[@NoahLookman9191]

Nonsense! He is there to challenge Warren

[@Dukestboy96]

Probably a British thing 😂. I personally don't massively care about atmosphere if we're getting the fights we want to see

[@seanthomas1187]

I think the atmosphere is a worthy criticism as I think you'd get more noise out a dentist waiting room. It's not the end of the world but a good atmosphere does add to the viewing experience from home

[@Check85]

​​@@Dukestboy96we could be toxicly positive like the Americans and live in a delusion but we prefer reality.

[@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx]

Has Simon been sleeping with your husband again or something 🤷‍♂️

[@matthewkeys128]

Atmosphere was crap watching from home no wonder Wilder couldn't get going he looked asleep. Great card but the atmosphere was strange

[@nickg2117]

That will be his next excuse I'm sure......

[@Shrimpy-h7v]

Wilders trash that's the only reason he couldn't get in to the fight.stop pretending he was good because he never was.

[@billdoor3140]

No wilder just faced the 2nd top boxer of his career. Instead of opponents ranking hundreds of places lower than him

[@freddiefreeman4119]

The atmosphere in my living room was tremendous because I was focussed on the boxing and a great card.

[@billdoor3140]

@@freddiefreeman4119 your wife is the O.P....

[@gruunt4064]

the Tyson v Ngannou atmosphere didn't seem so bad but watch Queensberrys 2023 wrap up, the difference between the atmosphere at the Beterbiev v Yarde fight and AJ v Wallin fight was massive, It was like a library and that qas the main event, you could hear a few people wailing Oh Anthony Joshua somewhere at the back and that's about it. they just have a different idea of sport there, it's all about paying to get VIP celebrities to be seen in the front row, no one cares if Ronaldo is there

[@babyamy3884]

Maybe a bit of it was due to Christmas, just a thought

[@gruunt4064]

@@babyamy3884 in a Muslim country? maybe the ex pats went home for Christmas or people who would have travelled didn't wqnt to so close to Christmas , unfortunately half the atmosphere at UK fights is because of alcohol and that probably won't happen in Saudi but if these events are to help push tourism then not sure what the idea is

[@jonmoore873]

I think it was a really bad date for it in terms of getting tourists to the fight.

[@billdoor3140]

Err what? Fury vs Ngannou was awful 😅

[@JD-te6vm]

Eventually the paying viewers will ask these questions. Crowds make a big difference

[@Eagle356-f9o]

U can feel the atmosphere through the TV when its mental, its great and adds to the experience.

[@filmc1999]

Why not just say "You"?.

[@stujoker]

Frankie's blood pressure going through the roof! 😂

[@Luke-jx3mj]

& the shoulder rolling out of its socket.

[@stayhumbleya411]

Talk about clutching at straws. You payed for a tasty meal that had a decent price and you complain about the decoration…

[@Kisundeez]

If I paid a bunch of money I’d want the full experience 🤷

[@stayhumbleya411]

@@Kisundeez sure but you would say 4/5 stars, food was excellent but the decoration was bad. Talksport never mentioned the positive before the negative which makes it seem like they gave it 2/5 stars

[@marcusmarshall8357]

Problem is Simon couldn’t hear the customers in the background when he was eating

[@winnerwinnerchickendinner-y4w]

I dont remember SJ predicting Parker to beat Wilder ; sounds like more arsekissing from Jim

[@IanDavis-fs8dd]

Frank takes criticism so well...

[@MD_ENTERTAINMENT]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jaycawley9246]

😂😂😂

[@cameronglen2202]

Especially from a prat like simon

[@declanmckenna5111]

Daft criticism though. All those fighters on one card and Simon complains about atmosphere 😂

[@MD_ENTERTAINMENT]

@@declanmckenna5111 but he was correct about the atmosphere

[@Str4t0sph4r4]

100% the atmosphere was shite. Bring it back to Wembley. These promotors dropped the ball with AJ wilder, they should have fought on the 23rd. It’s too late now.

[@DolbyDogAdventures]

Lack of atmosphere is down to no booze. Imagine that card in a UK stadium.

[@Check85]

Yep alcohol creates noise. Do you think people would attend the darts let alone be rowdy if it was alcohol free.

[@donaldduck5553]

And probably because most people cannot afford to go all over there and pay mad oil prices

[@partsunknown2828]

Nonsense, good atmosphere in Qatar World Cup for example. Quiet atmosphere in Japan also for boxing where alcohol is permitted

[@kevinbermingham6186]

you cant have that card without the sauidi money though

[@Check85]

@@partsunknown2828 Japan has a 99percent conviction rate so they were to scared to drink because If you get arrested you aren't getting out soon.

[@compilations223]

Are people forgetting that Wilder was being outboxed by low level opposition like Szpillka and Gerald Washington before he koed them?

[@reece940]

And Molina 😂

[@AlexKall94]

And Oritiz (in the 2nd fight)

[@Airyed]

Exactly! Wilder avoided ranked contenders for a reason including having a unification with Parker! Also if you watch Wilders fight against Parker he constantly tries to rabbit punch Parker which is a running theme for Wilder

[@HisExcellencyB]

Its amazing that Joshua needed 3 tune ups because he "wasn't ready" to fight him, isnt it? 😂

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@HisExcellencyB it would be if it was true.

[@swankzilla]

The AJ card was great but the atmosphere kinda ruined it for me tbh. I couldn't help but think what that card would have been like in Wembley or where ever else in the UK.

[@MartinWalker-t7j]

Totally agree. For the main fights at least you would expect constant noise

[@billdoor3140]

Its all the sports in Saudi Arabia...watch 5 minutes of their football league...

[@Richard-se4uh]

You wouldn't get that card in the UK as it would cost too much.

[@johnlawler6476]

At least we are getting to see some big fights now.

[@Coolagreen16]

Frank Warren has got the patience of a saint talking to those two. 🙄

[@leebrown2063]

Simon who's meant to be a massive boxing fan I still don't get why he just constantly pulls it down.

[@tonysburgers7223]

I can't stand this prick

[@billdoor3140]

Every boxing fan is saying the Atmosphere in Saudi is trash...and it is...

[@JulezX.X]

He likes to be upset about something

[@Ninja2710hr]

Its ridiculous all those good UK boxers is fighting in saudi.

[@kevinb9830]

The atmosphere absolutely matters

[@GXDmusic]

Great event, well done for putting this together and cant wait for whats to come!

[@Dave-wh3hw]

It was like lockdown fights in Hearns back garden

[@ashere1000]

It was more the lack of crowd that bothered me, it’d be nice to see it filled up

[@easypeel9816]

I loved the event. Really enjoyed the whole card

[@filmc1999]

You must be deaf

[@philiptunnicliffe870]

Why cant Frank Warren just be honest the fights were good the atmosphere was shocking and made the event a little bit boring. The crowd helps make the fight were the fights as good during lockdown with no crowd so Frank Warren seriously thinks the fights during lockdown had the same buzz about them.

[@AlexKall94]

I’m glad this got brought up. It’s worrying to hear that AJ will once again fight in Saudi again this year. Need to get him back in the UK

[@HisExcellencyB]

They were booing him in the UK

[@AlexKall94]

@@HisExcellencyB were they booing him when he KO’d Helenius?

[@jamesprynne1422]

@@AlexKall94yes they were as just before he did it because they were getting fed up thinking another boring aj points snoozefest. Of course they cheered the knockout but it damn well took long enough for someone wilder ended in 1. Not defending current wilder at all but facts are facts

[@jackkeane6]

AJ just needs to retire

[@marky147]

causall mugs were, yeah... same as the ones you get at UFC cards when they don't iron somone out in 30 seconds@@AlexKall94

[@PsychicLarry]

They had to put down wilder as being finished to prop up Fury’s biggest name on his resume outside of Klitchko. In actual fact, Wilder has always been like this.

[@keithchegwin1222]

You're 100 percent correct

[@billdoor3140]

Absolutely correct

[@AntonyHudson-pi3ty]

Wow you're smart

[@mikeh5656]

Wilder has always walked around the ring, backwards, thrown next to no right hands, looked old, not engaged remotely and turned up for a payday? Such a stupid comment. I concur wilder never had a vast amount of boxing skill, but he had speed, concussive, unorthodox power and a semi decent jab. Most of the top 100 could do what wilder did against Parker. Let's not let agendas get in the way of facts. Wilder is shot to pieces

[@PsychicLarry]

@@mikeh5656 I hear ya. That was just a poor strategy from wilder. Later when he started to be the ‘old wilder’ it looked more likely he could land a good shot. That said he’s a poor boxer that has cherry picked to the title. He only fought fury the first time because he thought he was finished having seen his performances leading up. Wilder is rubbish. Any decent boxer would beat him. Even at this best. The only decent boxer he ever fought before fury was Ortiz and he was bloody 78 years old.

[@supermancd1988]

Simon and Jim making a massive deal out of the atmosphere, Simon isn’t happen unless he’s arguing with someone.

[@cusssystem8013]

I totally agree with Frankie boy here. I rather watch fights than what the crowd are doing. We have been crying out loud for some time now that big fights are not being made and the Best are not fighting the Best . The Saudi's are investing a lot of money into getting Big fights and the Best fighting the Best and we have talk sport being critical of this ? I just do not get it ? Surely due to the Saudi investment they are entitled where the fights take place ?

[@willhitchcock6227]

Come on the scraps in the crowds at York hall make the night.

[@billdoor3140]

It's a bit pathetic in multiple ways tho...1. The only way boxing can actually get the best to fight each other is a Dictatorship bribing them? A place where forced marriage was legal and women were only allowed to vote a few years ago? 2. The atmosphere will always be terrible their football league is even worse. 3. The issue of the best fighting the best could be fixed in days IF the governing bodies made a simple rule change than boxer's have to fight opponents ranked within 10 places of their own ranking instead of taking bribes to allow people like wilder to fight opponents ranked hundreds of places lower than him for years or fury fight Ngannou

[@billdoor3140]

​@@willhitchcock6227yeah Frank vs Catterall was a real blinder 😅

[@Easy_tiger69]

@@billdoor3140 Totally true, Bricktop knows the atmosphere was awful, one minute hes saying it was poor because there werent local fighters, and Britain would be the same. I highly doubt if prime Wilder had fought Klitschko that the atmosphere would be awful.

[@billdoor3140]

@test12559 mate if the Saudis told warren to stand on one leg and bark like a dog he would...

[@marcalexander5594]

Frank that was the best event, value wise, ever in the history of boxing, please keep them coming! I dont give a flying fuk who's in the audience if thats the value we're getting.

[@leonhughes9014]

garbage fights tbh

[@andyp5693]

Hall of 5,000 people isn't going to generate the same noise as a stadium with 90,000 english drunk lads like that litter bloke in the darts. 100 pints a day. End up like gazza. GET IN THERE MY SON. PROUD TO BE BRITISH!!!

[@happyguilmore4253]

You must be 12 years old as well as the other bloke that said that

[@christopherstamp5946]

Credit to Hearn for opening the door for boxing in Saudi - and saving the card with their fighters.

[@genotritto5599]

Atmosphere was terrible looked lime the stadium was half empty at the AJ post fight i terveiw after the fight 😂

[@kuzc9870]

I watched it. There were 💯 empty seats and you coule hear the echoes in the arena for all the fights. Maybe it's just me. What did everyone else think?

[@TheDodge1975]

Totally agree with Frank. Amazing night of top fights, why does Simon always have to find an issue/negative slant

[@myselfandi5568]

Talksports just like the clicks. Again, there's Eddie 'said' that trigger Frank for now so they have to find something.

[@TheDodge1975]

@@paulfienga9466more interested in watching the fights than what the crowd is like

[@oasis4185]

The atmosphere was garbage. Fact

[@splootan]

The atmosphere was shambolic and I was there.

[@CreedM8]

Atmosphere was AWFUL, always is in Saudi

[@Pugilist928]

Where the fights good?

[@splootan]

@@Pugilist928 yes fights pretty good, not my first rodeo mind.

[@splootan]

You guys have to also understand that the atmosphere is also down to lack of alcohol!

[@Ukman-england]

Me to I was sitting beside u

[@Enjoyyourselfnow]

Best way to watch this video is to zoom in on Jim and listen to the audio. Jim is dying over and over 😂😂😂

[@Impact11311]

Frank is correct, Jordan is being his negative self

[@DirtyJamesUK]

Jordan has a point about the atmosphere, but he thinks he's the patron Saint of nitpicking. Proper negative guy.

[@michaeloliver7825]

Said from the start. The lack of atmosphere hurts it when your watching on tv

[@m.faisal87]

Are Jim and Simon being daft deliberately??? Of course it’s a completely different atmosphere compared to the UK. Uk crowds have a whole plethora of Big Boxing events over the years, the sport is well and truly established, it’s a new market in Saudi Arabia, as we say casual fans, the Saudi Arabia fans are completely new to the sport, and culturally there’s difference between the Saudi tradition and UK traditions. The booze dose play a part in it, maybe they have a relaxed booze policy in Riyadh I don’t know, but I’m happy they keep the crowd disciplined and they remain respectful and sober

[@happyguilmore4253]

It will never be a great atmosphere over in Saudi EVER. They don’t care about any of the sports they are putting money into.

[@paulhooley9638]

Couldn’t agree more , was funny Simon being very quiet towards the end kinda think he realised he’s being made to look stupid 😂

[@m.faisal87]

In Saudi Arabia, it seem really fabricated, it’s just fan boys of celebrities and sports men and women. For the Saudi people its fan boy moments, they will never understand and digest sport as it is in the UK. Football, cricket, boxing and even darts, its grassroots level and well established culture the fans are immersed into and love. Will take time, no amount of sports washing and pumping money can ever buys that. The 23 rd card seemed too inflated to me, overdose, could have been better executed, better execution and organised, no doubt it’s good for the boxers being paid well and matches being put on

[@redl1ght1]

C’mon Simon wish him a happy new year!

[@carlitos274]

Massively agree with Simon. There was zero atmosphere. If you can hear the trainers shouting at the boxer, that means it’s silent.

[@bigsamkay]

Actually for the first time I agree with Fisheyes. If the fight card was superb why complain about the crowd noise? I wasnt in Saudi so the noise was of no concern to me. The fight card was excellent. End of..

[@Champ7611]

Who cares?? If you’re watching on tv who gives a flying fk

[@Mr_Magpie_]

I’m interested in watching fights your interested in listening to crowds 😂😂😂😂😂 I’m in stitches 😂😂😂

[@haddingtoniangcp2464]

"You could hear doors shut" "One with an atmosphere" Simon is super hilarious 😂😂😂

[@johngarland252]

Definitely agree with Simon, I've watched at least 6 events in Saudi Arabia and there has been very little atmosphere for any of them, I watch with friends and people always comment on the lack of atmosphere

[@jameslant7268]

No matter how big the fights are if your fighting in Saudi you ain’t getting a loud crowd

[@Pai-May]

At least the fights are getting made & happening

[@michaelrb9837]

@@Pai-MayHow? Not a singie one

[@TheMku147]

Fury's CV 1. 3 Fights vs Wilder who was schooled by Joseph Parker. 2. Beat Wallin on a close points decision on a fight which Fury must have been stopped with a bad cut. 3. 3 Wins vs journeyman Chisora. Fury is overrated - PERIOD

[@MrNiuj]

Frank cannot operate in the world of truth in the job he does. We cannot expect anything else.

[@Jamesbe3ker]

Jim white “any big fights over here frank “ Frank warren “yeah we got the copperbox coming up “ 🤣🤣🤣

[@leevweleevwe4813]

I agree with Simon that the Saudi atmosphere is appalling it’s like watching a fight in a library

[@grndouwn7338]

you can literally hear individual people in the crowd, that’s how bad it is

[@GallahersGreen]

They need to mic up the crowd.

[@TheoHoff-p2b]

Simon doesn't want to give AJ any credit, how bitter lol

[@happyguilmore4253]

Credit for what? Winning against average fighters after he lost to Usyk and Ruiz

[@Ukman-england]

Why give him credit who has wallin fought o ye fury.who got smashed by Francis o ye wilder who got smashed by Parker. Now see if u can name a fighter that wider or fury smashed that smashed up a top heavyweight. The answer is nobody now how the hell is fury wilder 1 and 2 total joke

[@johncallander768]

Bricktop has a point, its more about the fights than the atmosphere.

[@user-kx3sv4wx3o]

Franks completely correct , All simon jordan does is look to find faults in things and argue because he knows it gets more views

[@BrianBoru5523]

There was little or no atmosphere so he's not right at all.

[@user-kx3sv4wx3o]

@@BrianBoru5523 It's not about him being right, I agree the atmosphere wasn't as good as events here in the UK obviously, but that was one of the greatest boxing cards of all time and Simon's focused on the atmosphere 😂The only person in the entire boxing scene to find a negative about that great card, He looks for negatives so he can argue , That card literally could not have happened anywhere else, Like frank said do you watch boxing for the fights or the atmosphere mate ?

[@Easy_tiger69]

@@user-kx3sv4wx3o They could have had the fights in the UK if it wasnt for the greed. and the atmosphere would have been awsome. Frank knows this he just finds it hard to admit that you either take Saudi money and get a Saudi atmosphere, or get less money but a proper atmosphere. Football and Boxing were atrocious tv specticals during lockdown.

[@theboxingboy7422]

Saudi putting up the money for big fights to be made is great but I do agree about the atmosphere its just night and day compared to the UK fight atmosphere. Production wise the shows look good but the actual crowd itself there's not much life init so that is a issue

[@markboyer4221]

Both are correct….. it’s not like English fans potentially watching like AJ v fury at Wembley is what Simon probs means .. but I watch boxing for the fight not crowds so both are correct .. so shake hands lads . Superb event ..I sometimes watch boxing with the sound off so I can watch the fight for myself ..

[@luca99191]

No point of nitpicking tbh

[@Airyed]

I loved the event loved seeing Jai Opetaia fight and seeing Dubious come full circle as well as AJ looking a lot better I couldn't care less about crowd noise! My only compliment is how late the fights started to get I think it should be way earlier and they shouldn't of cared about the football game

[@ba2724]

Great points. I was only disappointed in the lateness of the final fights. Was a bit ridiculous to be honest. But overall, I can only hope to see more mega events like this. A step in the right direction.

[@CS-pl8fc]

You should care what the fighters think. Many fighters said how much they hated fighting in closed halls during the lockdowns and their performances suffered because of it.

[@RT-tr9cq]

Totally agree.... watched the whole thing and no atmosphere

[@Thirdfish]

There is more atmosphere on the moon than at any boxing show in Saudi.

[@razakmanify]

They should have the fight in 🌧️⛈️🌧️☔ Rainy Cold England. London is great when your not getting mugged 😂❤

[@michaelrb9837]

Do your hands get cold cos you can’t handle our weather you fairy

[@wgcHERTS]

Frank have a day off there wasn’t a atmosphere at all and it was half empty, we all watched and listened it’s ridiculous 🙈🤣

[@vantheman1238]

Agreed. Frank needs to take the criticism on board and find a way with the Saudi’s to improve it. The Saudi’s have so much money perhaps they encourage more Brits to travel by laying on flight and accommodation packages that do not cost the earth.

[@Shrnirpledorp]

Finally get a good card n u start moaning over their not being enough shouting 😂 can’t please anyone

[@wgcHERTS]

@@Shrnirpledorp I’m not moaning about the card mate the card was brilliant, its just silly of frank to defend the fact that the atmosphere in Saudi is none existent

[@stokes8762]

It was like sport in lockdown

[@richardharrison1300]

@@stokes8762spot on

[@danhutton-zf3nf]

Great card at a decent price but I wasn't happy with some of the walk on tunes and would have liked better snacks served on the night

[@darrenlee9237]

Just over a year ago Simon Jordan was chomping at the bit to get his hands on some of that Wahabbi oil money. His ambitions as a promoter have been well documented. But now he's complaining about the lack of atmosphere being generated at these Saudi-hosted sportswashing boxing bouts. Perhaps you can't have it both ways, Simon?

[@amitnayyar7407]

Jordan needs taking off the station now. Negative as per. Frank is the DON

[@kiely4561]

These Saudi events look pretty to the eye and they have created a positive impact in some aspects, we would have never seen Eddie and Frank working together had it not been for this middle eastern money, but yes the lack of crowd atmosphere is a big problem in combat sports where it goes hand in hand, it’s the crowd that gives it that big time feeling and can even influence how fighters fight in the ring, can you imagine trilogies like Ward vs Gatti or Bowe vs Holyfield with silence in the crowd? Lol, there were times in that big Saudi event where you could hear a pin drop even in the wilder and Joshua fights, it definitely is a problem but with so much money flying around out there I don’t see anyone complaining about it. What we need is a big vegas or Wembley fight to breath some soul back into the sport.

[@paddymcp90]

The poor crowds contributed to the lethargic pace of the fights imo. Was like a sparring session

[@keystosuccess980]

Great event I was there they’re not a rowdy bunch but they did get behind it. Frank speaking facts Takes time they only just got big sporting events in Saudi

[@billdoor3140]

Takes time for what? Saudi only stopped forced marriage of children and allowed women to vote a few years ago...you think they're going to start letting their working classes go to sports or enjoy a beer? 😅

[@efeturi100]

Talking about atmosphere is a waste of time tbh. I would rather have no atmosphere and great fights rather than small fights in great atmosphere

[@chriscope7292]

Hes bang on - the atmosphere is just so poor, it would be so sad if AJ & Fury wasn't in the UK and i dont think it will be - they should give something back to their fans, its not as though they will get peanuts

[@combinhisheadpiece6717]

What should they give back? 😂😂😂 Fans turn over night, make your money and get out of the sport healthy.

[@combinhisheadpiece6717]

What should they give back? 😂😂😂 Fans turn over night, make your money and get out of the sport healthy.

[@michaelrb9837]

@@combinhisheadpiece6717The fans made Fury and AJ dummy we pay their wages kid

[@combinhisheadpiece6717]

@@michaelrb9837 You'll find the fans didn't make either fighter, the fighters trained with their coaches and built themsleves to a point long before fans had any interest, they developed their talent over years to the point where people wanted to pay to see them so the fans did not make them. Saudi also pay flat fees before ppv revenue so that is not entirely true. Fans only pay a percentage of fighters purses and even then that doesn't equate to the fans making them, fans buy ppvs and tickets for their entertainment, if the fighter wasn't entertaining to them they wouldn't buy it, so it's a purely transactional thing. Get over your self entitlement.

[@michaelrb9837]

@@combinhisheadpiece6717 Not reading all that

[@JD-te6vm]

50 years ago the most infamous in Boxing history fight took place! Rumble in the Jungle in Africa! Ali vs Foreman! The key thing in this fight was the ATMOSPHERE!

[@Birdycheeks69]

Simon absolutely rattled here 😂😂😂

[@donaldduck5553]

Sounds more like frank was rattled

[@billdoor3140]

​​@@donaldduck5553sounds more like Frank was rattled...then someone said to Jim "shhh be nice or he'll boycott us" just as Frank was saying he was wastung his time Jim says "ohh err the atmosphere wasn't bad it was errr different, oh and Doubois was AMAZING Mr warren wasn't he 😅" and Jordan suddenly becomes mute...the fact people genuinely think talksport call it "how it is , is hilarious" 😅

[@phillyb2020]

Paid £20 for it. Enjoyed it all. Don't know about atmosphere there but I loved it , great Christmas present. Keep em coming

[@GBDazzler]

Dubois barely got cheers in his post fight interview was noticeable but franks right simon always looking for problems

[@pearl44uk]

Getting drunk watching boxing is Simon's definition of a good atmosphere.

[@iankelly781]

Jordan is spot on the atmosphere was terrible

[@Champ7611]

Thank god it was or you wouldnt have nothing to moan about lol

[@Arnie-om6mq]

Aj vs wilder is now one of the fights that got away, the world wanted to see it years ago when they were both on top of the pile and now the boats been missed

[@vantheman1238]

Would like to see AJ fight someone who will seriously attack him and throw some leather. Last three AJ fights have been pretty sedate in terms of pressure for AJ. Great that he looked good against Wallin, however, I would like to see AJ v Ruiz. Ruiz would come in fit and sharp in the third AJ fight and would seriously pressurise AJ. Frank has to accept criticism on the Saudi crowd and general atmosphere because there has to be something done about it. Losing his rag and mentioning that TalkSport doesn’t have to watch the fights and broadcast because Simon is questioning him is utterly ridiculous and dare I say immature on Frank’s part.

[@Lukeetron]

Agreed with aj but in fairness he was due to fight whyte that would have done that. He’s a top fighter and probably even better now if has found the perfect balance between boxing and punching

[@lawrencehaynes6408]

Didn't Wallin bust Fury's eye open. I'm sure Wallin would have thrown some leather had AJ let him.

[@vantheman1238]

@@Lukeetron I do agree with you 👍🥊

[@vantheman1238]

@@lawrencehaynes6408 very good point

[@GODISREAL-i1l]

For big fights, put it on a big screen in England like the World Cup and play the atmosphere on speakers

[@fearassassin5207]

Frank's got a point you pay money to watch the fight not listen to the crowd 🤣🤣. People still watched boxing during lock down when there wasn't any crowd at all

[@CS-pl8fc]

Yeah and it was worse. By your logic why have crowds at all?

[@fearassassin5207]

@@CS-pl8fc I'll refer you to the lock down boxing people still watched boxing when there was no crowd and wasn't complaining then why cuz they paid for the fight and not the atmosphere 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@CS-pl8fc]

@@fearassassin5207 you'll refer to the thing you already said and that I responded to? Yeah, people did still watch boxing during the lockdown, and it was worse. My follow up question to you was "why have crowds at all now". If people don't care about them, it would be much easier to just hold a fight on a sound stage. It's because people do care about them. People who watched those fights during lockdown commented that it was weird and worse. The fighters who fought in those fights said they hated it because they feed off crowds. You don't speak for anyone. You may not care about the atmosphere, but that does not mean others don't. You can be perfectly fine watching a movie on your 27in crt in your dingy little living room, others may want to see it in an iMax for the atmosphere. It's a perfectly valid criticism of Saudi Arabian fights. Some people may also not want to look out and see a bunch of human rights violators in the audience. Or hear fighters licking the asses of war criminals in every press conference.

[@JD-te6vm]

It’s all part of the experience. They both matter!

[@dogsbollocksgenius9480]

Think Simon Jordan is starting to finally realise what and who frank warren really is, he tried to befriend Simon so that Simon wouldn’t criticise him or fury, he’s very devious. Always has been.

[@monkeyjim9398]

Frank is right, and was a brilliant night .. best card ever provided. Shame on talksport trying to diss it !!!

[@Becs932]

Them two just wanted to argue with frank

[@marshallappleblack412]

When the sound was lost on the coverage i turned the radio on and could hardly tell the difference. The atmosphere was almost non existent from a sound perspective. Simon is bang on the money and Frank can't accept a non super positive opinion.

[@DirtyJamesUK]

Simon definitely has a point, but he's such a nitpicker. He's always the same.

[@donaldduck5553]

Was like watching the boxing when everywhere was closed with no crowds! All people did then was moan that there’s no atmosphere, now apparently it doesn’t matter

[@nico4069]

It seemed like there was no one there because the atmosphere was that bad to be honest...frank always puts SImon in his place...fish face been around too long fir people like simon....

[@oasis4185]

Atmosphere was garbage. Thats a fact frank

[@jasonharryphotog]

Talksport moan fest Carry’s on I’ll unsubscribe

[@frankieryan2840]

Fair play to bricktop that boxing show was fantastic 🥊👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@michaelrb9837]

Not really

[@DarkHenry23]

Has Frank just confirmed AJ vs Zhang at the end. Eddie has said AJ fighting March 9th and hinted it could be Zhang, now Frank saying Zhang will be fighting in March. This would be a good fight but AJ KO’s him

[@bruceleeroythatswho]

Pitty he didnt ko franklin n ruiz . zhang beats Joshua he beat zhang years ago but zhang beat ruiz white beat Joshua etc both powerful guys but I think zhang wins

[@upsidedown8415]

Simon is spot on with this one, there's simply no atmosphere that comes across on the TV, there was more atmosphere at Wolverhampton civic Hall with Tyler Denny as main event, fact

[@jiggadon]

Simon is such a miserable git