Will THIS Give Me the 'Iommi' Tone?! | Axe From The Grave

[@haldasinger6440]

soldering on top of your finished guitar . . . the confidence! the skill! I would never

[@JC-11111]

Seriously? As long as it isn't nitro, there's almost nothin to the worry about. Hot, dripping solder is almost cool enough to solidify as soon as it hits so it won't melt anything. I've done it tons of times. Even then, all it takes is a piece of almost anything as protection over the finish. Even just a few sheets of notebook paper would work.

[@JC-11111]

Oh yea... There's also the fact that I buy my guitars to keep so I treat them accordingly. Meaning IDGAF what happens to them because I'm not trying to preserve value so I can sell later. I use my guitars for what they are. Instruments to be enjoyed. I can't do that while worrying about trying to keep them in pristine shape.

[@florabee9283]

The neck has been broken off, so a spot of flux splatter is no longer a concern. Plus, this man has soldering skills- blobs of solder don't just drip off once you know what you're doing. Flux does kind of spatter forth from the heat sometimes though.

[@the-np4mr]

Life's too short

[@joesharpe7685]

@@JC-11111 it doesn’t do much, but it can affect any finish

[@rickyt11010]

P90s are such an underappreciated metal pickup. That thing sounds sick, now I'll be drooling over P90 SGs for months.

[@alexcorona]

I swapped some P94s into my Les Paul, Also I never would have though this but telecaster pickups are super great for metal also, besides Morello I never knew of anyone else and even he only uses the neck, but the bridge one is even better. P90s have the same amount of windings as a humbucker so it’s not surprising.

[@rickyt11010]

right on. I'm personally a fan of the GFS humbucker sized Mean 90's I've put them in a few guitars and loved them in every one. I dig them because supposedly they are wound one a redesigned p90 bobbin that is shaped to fit in the humbucker sized cover. I don't know if it is true but they sound good so it works for me lol.

[@mistreated]

It's killer! I removed the 490r 498t's from my LP Special that I've owned for 20 years. I was never really happy with the sound. Replaced with Seymour Duncan P-90 Phat Cats. It's an "all new" guitar. Great for hard rock and metal AND clean chimey blues tones.

[@wesleywheeler7891]

I was wanting to replace mine with some bare knuckle Mississippi Queens

[@DJBuglip]

I put em in my green lp, they're like buzzsaws

[@nitrobw1]

My suggestion for that partscaster: Firebirds! An underappreciated and incredibly versatile pickup that doesn't get nearly the love it should.

[@domoniquebrooks816]

I second this and an accompanying video on mini humbuckers would be in order as well.

[@seanmckelvey6618]

Yes! awesome pickups that deserve much more attention than they get.

[@ScienceofLoud]

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[@JordonBeal]

Dude! Thank you for rocking Extinction Level Event for the drums! Honored! -Jordon Beal

[@fernandobertola9354]

Greetings Colin! Been expecting something great out of that SG. Beautiful job. A note: one of the things that make most of the Iommi sound is the string gauge. I believe he uses something like 8-38's in C#, which is incredibly wobbly for most of us. I tend to play in C with a 9-46's mixed set on an SG with a humbucker sized P90 and it gets really close on almost any amp setup, as it's the way loosier strings resonate that contribute the most to the final sound. I used to go for 9-42's before but I'm not such a careful and precise player like he is, so my bass notes would get all out of tune. You might want to give a chance to a lighter gauge on this guitar, you'll love it! In any case, amazing job. Thank you for your videos. Salutations from Spain!

[@keithhampton9700]

I just started a project with a really cheap SG copy. 108$ US. Got some generic humbucker sized P90 Ceramic pickups. Got a group of electronics for a Epiphone SG 400.Added locking tuners.Orange drop caps. Wish me luck.🤘🤠🤘

[@TomTobin67]

Hey Colin. There is a Dimarzio pickup called "Humbucker from Hell" that looks like a PAF but sounds like a P90. Check it out.

[@palukens]

Fav song right there

[@j.thorgard]

Parts-caster should maximise the difference between pickups. Take the woofer + tweeter concept to the extreme. Neck: low-Q boosted hum-bucker. Bridge: high-Q boosted higher output single-coil. No tone pot just two volumes and a three way switch.

[@michaelfrancis1]

Dannnng!! Sounds amazing! The difference is more obvious in the song. You can hear the sustain and separate string articulation. Great song choice. Totally matches! Way to go above and beyond for a great guitar that had a bad day ☺️ Cheers from Texas! 🤘😺🤘

[@fullclipaudio]

I have a 2006 stop tail SG Classic with P90's. It is by far my favorite SG (I have a '61 reissue, Tribute, & Modern). It just Dooms.

[@needsLITHIUM]

I love P90's, and I actually want more guitars with them installed. I have an Epiphone Les Paul Special with a GFS Dream 180 bridge and Dream 90 Neck set and a Seymour Duncan Active Blackouts Preamp, which I also retrofitted with a microtuner stop tail. In a perfect world, I'd love another identical guitar, or close to it (I'd settle for a chibson or cheap imitation if the balance and fretting quality is there, and I'd also be fine with an SG shaped axe), but this time without the active wiring. I love buying $200 sleeper guitars and turning them into modded monsters.

[@DJBuglip]

One of my favorite Sabbath songs, man, nice choice. \m/

[@stephencagle8233]

I think you should try some some Railhammer pickups, either the humcutters or the humbuckers, or that strat!

[@albertplaysguitar]

Simply amazing sounding guitar

[@r0gersr0gers]

For the Partscaster, can I reccommend the Nebula DIY Pickups? - I know you've tried them before, but keeping with the DIY type of theme with this guitar, they might go? - Leave it with ya, Colin!

[@backlom]

What a great guitar! Congratulations Colin!!

[@stepannecil8401]

Well, for the partscaster I would sugest something really unorthodox, like two lipstic pickups connected as a humbucker

[@giancarlopaolini7529]

Nice job, nice tone and nice playing. The P90 ? Supergreat ...I had them on my SG with trem back in 1972 going through a Marshall full stack cranked up to 100 watt...no pedal needed 🙂

[@FISHYFILMPRODUCTIONS]

Bold move soldering on top of the guitar, nice work!

[@ScienceofLoud]

It's not a problem if you are good at soldering, but I might have been more careful if it was a new guitar that hadn't previously been broken in half.

[@mattrogers1946]

Not a good move at all really.

[@GreboGent]

While I appreciate the effort you went through, I’m afraid I can get a closer Iommi tone on my JCX strat with 9 gauge strings and a humbucker in the bridge position going through a Dallas style silicon treble booster into a frontman 15G, it’s not just my opinion I base that off either. From what I’ve read, Iommi used the thinnest strings he could get early on as the thicker gauge strings dug into his stubby fingers too much, that’s at least part of the reason he changed to c# standard too, because the lower tension made the strings dig into his finger tips even less as well as having the deeper sound. Back when he played in e standard he’d get the heavier sound on the chords by playing them up the neck which I suppose would count as playing them same lower in the neck but with thicker strings, there was also mention of him using orange bass amps early on too for extra punch but I’m not so sure on that one (while it would make sense)

[@dangitdan9938]

Partscaster needs a set of goldfoils, but what do I know. 🤘😁🤘

[@AutismRocksOfficial]

Sweet Axe 🤘🤘

[@justinmann1397]

Firebird mini humbuckers in the partscaster.

[@thesickhorseranch]

I regret that I have but one subscription to give!

[@erikolsen1333]

After Jeff Becks passing (RIP), I learned that he had one of his strats with the fender Lace Lawrence pickups were wound to be out of phase… My question is what do out of phase pickups sound like?

[@Kylora2112]

Put a humbucker in the bridge, P-rail in the mid, and a P90 in the neck. Mini toggles for on/off and coil splits for the humbucker and P-rail. I know you like versatile guitars =D You could even do an angled "double single coil" in the bridge to get some Nile Rodgers chord chuckin' funk with one coil engaged and some METAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!! with both.

[@darthslater6077]

Good to see you my friend always information loaded hey, can you go into why the 1962 fender telecaster pickups are so much better than most others?

[@leonjurenic5518]

Maybe hotrail and humbucker combo for the partscaster

[@StratoBlaster]

Into the Void… my man!

[@TheOfficialDTTwins]

Killer Tone!!! Could you provide a copy of the wiring schematics and components you used? Thx! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@IsabellaCatherine19XX]

It sounds killer!

[@mickavoidant4780]

How about stacked coils on the Alegree? That could show us what stacks are like and what pitfalls can come with them.

[@geoffdillon6013]

Great change. P90’s sound good in every guitar don’t they! Especially Gibson P90’s which you have replicated. Like you said in your video, they basically have the same output as a humbucker, but, they are so much brighter though. Great vid, love your work and your channel.

[@kobalt_ren01]

Would be fun to further the Green Day vibes with the parts strat, perhaps an angled bridge humbucker?

[@unclejoeoakland]

Would you ever enjoy making a guitar with fiddleback Honduras mahogany and Brazilian rosewood for the neck?

[@BlueHero112]

For the Alegree Strat might try messing around with MIDI pickups. Make a Start that Fripp would play

[@GeneralAdmission_1]

Awesome video

[@sheriff7172]

Maybe you could revist active pickups? Put some fishman fluence in the blue guitar

[@richardbspeck147]

Maybe put Pearly Gates pick-ups, 8 gauge strings & Mosrite neck & headstock like me.?

[@SyrusRayne]

HH with coil-splits and that PRS coil-split-resistor mod thing? HSH with 'trons and a tele neck PU in the middle? G&L Comanche-style split-coils? Am I just posting my list of things I want to try on a strat some day?

[@pavelmazalek2838]

let's put the firebird pickups in the partcaster

[@sonofromel]

Try gauge 8 C#? Most Iommi experience we could have without chopping off our finger tips.

[@JeffBarberDigideus]

do an Yngwie strat! scallopped and hot rail stacked single coils

[@nicbarnett4707]

need to find a way to have Tony Iommi watch this!!!!!

[@ScienceofLoud]

I would love it if he did.

[@Aceroxx02]

3 Firebird pickups in the Strat.

[@billzade8158]

What to do with the Allagree Partscaster? Oh man, I'd LOVE to see you do something like Jazzmaster Single coils or Goldfoil pickups......

[@TheCadegoodspeed45]

Humbucker bridge p90 in the neck.

[@yawningdogge]

How about lipsitck tubes for the partscaster?

[@britishnerd3919]

Damn that tone is uncanny

[@CrimsonQuandary]

Try some rail bass pickups in that guitar and tune it low

[@dezionlion]

Wow!! Looks and sounds killer. I want one! Whens the giveaway? Just joking!

[@marcuswareham1]

How about winding some tri-sonics for the parts caster Or lipsticks

[@creamy991]

Where do you get the guitars you fix?

[@logancaswell5529]

Me when he’s soldering on the body 📈📈📈

[@derbona]

How about filtertrons next?

[@Mr_Jawa12]

Super strat ur strat

[@kenedwards3430]

Been a sabbath fan since 1970, and I play guitar. That SG sounds off from Iommi. Not a little, but a lot. It prolly isn't the guitar, I'm gonna go with the signal chain.

[@BungleJoogie68]

There's a lot of what sounds like dry signal in the full mix and it has this weird octave/blend sound to my ears

[@wintyrqueen]

Shouldn’t you have gone for much lighter strings for ultimate Iommi-ness?

[@ElectroMac74]

so the Wax will kill The ToneWood

[@2Wiered2Live2Rare2die]

But are you prepared to loose a couple tips of your fingers?! Next video idea....Maybe? Great video as always man and sounds awesome 🤘🏻

[@Deris87]

The only time I'll agree with "tone is in the fingers" is when it comes to Tony Iommi, because he's the only player I know of whose fingers aren't made of fingers.

[@AJEDDY97]

@Lars Norberg Tony's tone comes from his mustache.

[@SomeNigel]

You as a gear head, obviously a big win, but you as a player deserve serious props too

[@sawbonesquad4876]

As an SG and Sabbath fan, a video like this is fascinating Colin! Such good production quality.

[@niceman8815]

Was legit just thinking this as I was watching

[@ilikepotatoes1345]

This thing is absolutely sick, sounds and looks godly, and it being tuned to C# is just a cherry on top. I love it a lot.

[@hazrod13]

I'm once again impressed by the quality of video production. The lighting, the framing, the traveling, it's all so well done. oh yeah guitar's a banger as well

[@Mr.Goldbar]

I have two suggestions for the Alegree Strat. 1. 3 incredibly hot single coils that are tappable. You can use that for a video about what tapping actually is and if we can get a vintage sound if we tap a hot pickup. 2. Jazzmaster pickups, for the querkiness of it and for comparing them to the P90s

[@Peter-by3ox]

You should do a Glenn Tipton Tribute guitar with the parts caster 2 dimarzio SD HB and a metal scratch plate. The influence that guitar sound had is as important as big Toni's in it's own way - excellent vid and playing that tone you got was legendary

[@shitrigs6506]

Great idea

[@BMGS340]

I gotta say my Scottish brother Into The Void cover was like a sacrament it sounded so good, you really should do more stuff like that, graveyard guitar tone chasing! "Ne Obliet"

[@andydinesguitar]

Sounds absolutely righteous Colin, great cover of Into The Void too!🤘

[@gonzalooliveraalves]

Really love how powerful the tone is now with those P90 pickups! In regards of the P90 Strat, my suggestion is either make a 3 mini humbucker strat or put filtertrons instead

[@MyBichSustained]

You should have put 38's or 42's on...thats the closest to get Iommi's tone,then every time you play,call Geezer to enhance the tone you chase.

[@northmanlogging2769]

remember this when folks say you can't play "metal" with P90's...

[@mycorrhizae86]

I would love to see a Sustaniac in the Partscaster!

[@wheelchairtestdummy3059]

You did such a great job rehabbing that SG and your playing did some justice for it also. Great job. Thanks for great content as always.

[@FortyThievesOrkestar]

Iommi's sg didnt have a tone knob connected it was just cosmetic

[@Ottophil]

As any good guitar should. Tone knobs can only remove tone. Not add it.

[@chrisparker5278]

What's your opinion of Railhammer Humcutters?

[@alexcorona]

P90s are the only pickups where I prefer the neck over the bridge. It just sounds magical.

[@w33blord66]

Amazing effortless playing. Such an entertaining video.

[@MinimGuitars]

I wired my Epiphone SG so you can switch the humbuckers between series and parallel, which is effectively like having the humbucker or two single-coils sat right next to each other. It's in the ballpark of a P90 sound but you still get the hum cancelling effect from the two coils.

[@murrayguitarpickups9545]

I think you should try a set of my pickups in the partscaster. Help a fellow Scotsman launch his brand...Paul Stafford Cook just bought a set

[@rockmovieswithtyler1989]

Thinking the parts caster should PRails but that's up to you dude!🤷🏼‍♂️🤘🏻😎

[@Safetysealed]

IMO the partscaster would be badass with a Jazzmaster pickup in the bridge, and a Charlie Christian in the neck. Truly the spanish inquisition of Strat pickup choices.

[@stefano.salari]

These P90 are gorgeous! Talking about the future of PartsCaster, personally I'd be interested in seeing some work involving humbuckers and electronics. How to play with phasing, for example, but also how to best reach a single coil sound with them. Just splitting a Humbucker drops too much their output but for example the Guthrie Govan Charvel has lots of different sound options even if it keeps the volume quite consistent. I'd be curious to know more about this.

[@graemejones218]

Hello Colin. May I ask you if you had 3 amplifiers to choose from, which would appeal to you the most? In no particular order they are the H&K Black Spirit, the H&K Grandmeister 40 deluxe, & finally the Boss Katana Artist 2. I had a tax rebate this week & I can now afford the Grandmeister Deluxe 40 head & a TM cab. Many thanks Colin, regards Graeme.

[@UncleRJ]

Maybe give the Partscaster a pair of railed humbuckers. It would be something new to your collection.

[@JohnDoe9764]

You could try Filtertrons or Mini Humbuckers/Firebird Pickups in your Partscaster. Or Railhammer Nuevo 90s. I would love to see and hear that!

[@bobbyfonts3486]

Really enjoyed the vids on this repair. Really nice work. I own a Fender Lead II (looks like a baby Strat) that I did some modifying to, including adding a third center pick-up and putting in a set of *Texas Specials* and a slick 5 way switch which allowed me to reverse the polarity on the the three inner positions to get a hum bucking effect. Would love to have an SG someday. Keep up the great work. Will keep watching!

[@JustPlayItLoud]

Just swap the P90s for mini humbuckers in the Strat. Wildly underrated pickups that totally rip

[@Dark_LoreVT]

Very cool SG! On the partscaster ( may be late to the party) but how about Fender Jazz Master style pickups? I mounted a Guitar Fetish Supply hot JM bridge pickup in a cheapy Epi Special II. And it sounds pretty great. Way more chimey than the dark sounding humbuckers it came with.

[@msbrech]

Fantastic video, as always! As far as the Alegree Partscaster goes, I hate to see it change! I love the way it looks and sounds! But if it must change, maybe as a counterpoint to the more flamboyant builds we've seen (Muppet Jazzmaster) or thrash and metal guitars, go back to a simple, vintage single coil arrangement and show people with your mad playing skills why Stratocasters have been kicking @$$ for almost 70 years! Maybe even as a history lesson demonstrate using a three way switch how players got to positions 2 and 4 before Fender finally started building them with 5 way switches.

[@aquilarossa5191]

Playing was spot on. Nice one. Tone was similar but not quite there. Not the big knackers of the original, but the character of the overdrive was all there. Probably because you are using an amp that has a fairly high passed input. To get that big Sabbath tone the treble booster needs to be hitting a quite dark sounding but overdriven amp, i.e., the normal channel rather than the treble one (old school normal mind you). P.S. I am 52 now and can count the number of times on one hand that I have bothered to string 11s and tune down to C# so i can play that era Black Sabbath. Kind of need to always have a guitar handy that's already setup for it. BTW. I wonder how many folks heard Iommi uses 8s and tried tuning down to C# with them only to discover they almost flap in the breeze because there is not enough tension? Not even 9s have enough really. 10s maybe, but 11s seem to be the way to go. I think Iommi must have used 8s for standard tuning (9s for Eb on Heaven And Hell apparently -- and modded Marshall amps).

[@thehoppo]

Man I love Into the Void, if you would have used much lighter gauge strings it would have sounded even closer (but been harder to keep in tune)

[@diegomendez_026]

It's been 6 months after this video has been uploaded, but what about modding that Strat by installing a Floyd Rose, a set of super high output humbuckers??? It'd be a cool project. 8:46

[@BlackSnack]

Humbucker Humbucker Single Strat! (Serious head nod and rockers solute)

[@ziggylayneable]

You were killing it sounded like Tony iomi through my headphones but then all the sudden you turned into Zakk instead of Tony when the solo came... nice but not who I was expecting

[@georgebelone8466]

How about putting Mini Humbuckers in the Partscaster guitar? Rarely do I see a demo video or a modded guitar project including them.

[@3DeadDucks]

Since SG became Tony Iommi, should Strat become Ritchie Blackmore?

[@tomflynn2912]

Im subscribed! Thats why i can say nackel covered p90 peekups!

[@lostingear]

I came across some of your older videos. Clicked on your channel to check it out, and was like "who the hell is that short haired dude!?" Great channel, thanks for all the tips