Will This Patch Save The Game?

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[@scooldrood]

Riot really commited to the lore of Freljord being frozen over.

[@obinator3486]

Have you seen the Wild Rift cinematic, "you don't mess with yordles", basically characterizing yordles as these dumbass magical leprechauns that you should be very afraid of, because they will just fuck you up by doing some stupid inconceivable bullshit nobody could have anticipated? Yeah, I think that's the lore the LoR team took to heart a bit too much.

[@trevward5508]

As someone new to the game, I hope future updates can help out the community. I'm still enjoying myself but that may just be the honeymoon phase before I dive face first into the mess.

[@SuperLotus]

I don't play a lot of PvP, but it seems like the meta decks are mainly only a problem in ranked. In normal difficulty you go up against a much more diverse lineup.

[@Gummybearkillerr]

@@SuperLotus as someone who only plays normals , its a problem there too i always end up surrendering mid way games because there is no way i could win with outdated decks

[@SirHirnschaden]

Dont forget hype and hate trains get out if hand pretty quickly. I started this year too and its pretty fun and yordels are annoying and boring but i win 50 to 60% of times. Ofc i still play mostly t2 decks but getting angry and shit gets u more views

[@carrier2823]

@@SuperLotus i see lots of different decks in gold

[@xShianx]

It's a great game overall, the people complaining are mostly heavy players who really feel the slow balancing imo

[@trooperscientists2000]

"no yordles in arms changes?!" is basically the reaction of all KZbinrs I've watched the reaction to the patch of. Most seem.. generally happy, but hoped for bigger nerfs to cards like concologist or Gnar. Also no Poki fizzle, witch I heard a lot of people ask for. I personally wish they would come out with a massive meme card patch. 30+ cards that are regarded as unplayable get some buff to get them at least playable in some deck. (For example the whole ephemeral Ionia package. Ephemerals aren't even good in shadow isles.. why does Inonia have like 6+ cards that are supposed to be something, but just aren't able to be even meme decks.)

[@ichdu0014]

Poki fizzle is super overrated. Like, the only regions that can reliably kill or remove their own units to even attempt a Poki Fizzle are Ionia and SI. Poki might need to be changed, but making it Fizzle-able doesn't solve any issues.

[@kennypow4017]

Pokey being fizzleable doesn't do shit to it. It's a buff to glimpse more than a nerf to pokey. What are you going to do most of the time , mystic your own unit to deny draw 1 lmao ???

[@2Kaleb]

Noxian fervor

[@trooperscientists2000]

@@ichdu0014 Glimpse, noxian fervour, single combat, a unit having tough or barrier, just to name a few examples that would deny the draw. It's less about actually giving the card a hard Nerf but rather to put it in line thematically and giving it a slight slap on the wrist. It's just about having the option to and not just having them get value regardless. Having it be deal one to an enemy to draw one would be enough and honestly would change a bit already. Slow Poki or 3 mana Poki is borderline unplayable.

[@andybeyer2230]

Everyone's switching to path of champions, what do we do?!? Viktor buffs

[@Depressed_Spider]

Viktorrrrr.

[@willemboele2079]

i took a shot any time someone said dead game in chat and not only am i dead i somehow deleted the livers of every single person within the 4 closest city blocks. COOL IT, things ain't so bad

[@Ty6260]

Deceased ludological product btw

[@willemboele2079]

@@Ty6260 fancy words that i’m too no to understand

[@kiarashfadaie]

IT IS that bad!people say stuff for a reason my guy

[@peschionator7873]

Azir change is quite nice considering that he now benefits more from the Sun Disk autosummon, Devout and Rock Hopper. Azir used to level the most reliable out of all Ascended back when he needed only 10 summons to level. The Emperors Deck could still use some adjustments though.

[@jacktumbleweed]

Azir-Xerath mono-shurima (my favorite deck thematically) could be juicy.

[@act2wasstronger182]

The 1 mana predict landmark counts as two price now. Unraveled earth is also viable.

[@xtalpax902]

lev 3 deck buff is always a win

[@act2wasstronger182]

@@xtalpax902 almost always

[@protoss5758]

@@xtalpax902 If your elo is so trash that ascended is a playable deck maybe. But now that Xeraph's level 3 is nerfed that's just not true.

[@gelo1309]

Well I'm so happy with the shurima buffs. It's my favorite deck even if it's not meta. Azir Xerath would get leveled up faster now

[@kiorodjirane8517]

Quicksand is another huge buff for the deck.

[@louiszeugin2704]

But since they changed lvl 3 xerath he's so anti synergistic with the emperor's deck, without landmarks to destroy he just kills a spider every turn

[@kiorodjirane8517]

@@louiszeugin2704 Nah, it's better this way for finishing the game quickly. You should still have some landmark in your hand and each of them is a potential 5 damages to a blocker or nexus. With this change, you can heavily invest in Landmark without slowing down Azir level up so it's even better.

[@louiszeugin2704]

​@@kiorodjirane8517Not when the opp board is always full of yordle, even if you have 4 landmarks in hand after getting azir lvl 3 xerath will never hit the nexus

[@counterstrike2isdead]

Azir level up should 10 landmarks

[@kass5892]

The answer is: nope we will have to wait for the April patch meaning that in the meantime I will play something else like lol or Isaac, hollow knight, ecc... You get the gist of it, everything except for LoR since I'm sorry to say but BC should have never existed

[@juliosilva9871]

This patch was a pain in the ass. See you guys in one month guys! :D

[@CPM94]

That probably won't do much either 🤣

[@BubberTubberBTPW]

what you said at the end is really one of the main reasons why i barely play LOR anymore: i loved playing older concepts like lux thresh, tf swain, ashe thresh, harrowing decks, warmother's decks, etc (i know not all of these were exactly t1 or even t2), but now i cant even come close to making these decks work and i dont want to play bandle city

[@2Kaleb]

LoR went downhill with the KDA cards

[@MrDuckZapallar]

So they allowed vacations from LoR until next Patch (?

[@felipemota01]

One of my main decks when I started playing was "championless undying", it was cheap and really fun to play. Now they are literally dead (pun intended) for months.

[@eliamagri7413]

Shit i forgot about that deck

[@romusa10]

Older decks being dead for months is nothing new for a card game tho, it happens everywhere else

[@stefanopaolini1345]

That's why I was hyped when they buffed the sheriff in Bilgewater...

[@2Kaleb]

It all went downhill after 4 mana Lee sin

[@Arkmag]

it was never a meta deck anyway so

[@VladtheLad]

How is the Pantheon nerf correct? This 1 attack almost never matters for fated units who are 10/10 most of the time anyways. The overwhelm needs to go at least in his unleveled form imho.

[@protoss5758]

Yeah, Pantheon was tier 1, now if you drop him at 4/5 to flip and play two gems he's 8/6 rather than 9/6. The more impactful change is actually sharpsight.

[@_DuxNet]

I don't see how any changes to Bandle City are going to do anything when the whole archetype of the region is broken. I feel like they need to flat out rework half of their cards to try and give them a different identity.

[@Last_Resort991]

Im so fed up with lor and riot. Every damn expansion they release overtuned cards on purpose and then don't have the time to balance them back to a normal level, causing cancer meta for 3+ months. That's also why they don't have time to rework old archetypes or champions. It is a mess.

[@Koookiez]

Jack if all trades, master of all

[@shintruth2716]

@@Last_Resort991 They have the time, they just refuse too.

[@kwayke9]

I just want actual Impact support, man

[@Last_Resort991]

@@shintruth2716 They have a fixed budget, it's not like they can just do what they want.

[@Lost_In_Neverwhere]

Comment section is a salt mine, lmao. I'm just happy for my boi Azir. And for Aphelios of course.

[@rafaelcosta2759]

Dude, riot didn't touch Yordles in Arms, pokey stick, and all BC overvalue. Very poor nerfs

[@Haunterthe1st]

What do you call conchologist and telescope nerfs?

[@Goldcyber]

@@Haunterthe1st an overdue balance change that fixes like 10-20% of the regions problem. nothing more

[@SuperLotus]

Disappointing that no changes to Udyr (other than that new Shurima strike spell and quicksand buff)

[@counterstrike2isdead]

agree Udyr needs a buff

[@joakimeltocho5312]

@@counterstrike2isdead who?

[@Gaze73]

I don't know why his level up isn't like "You've played 4 stances" or "I've seen you play 2-3 stances".

[@Roadrin]

Isn't the fact that the numbers are so small in this game that a difference of 1 is a make or break kind of thing? I love this game but it seems like it's hard to find a good middle ground for some cards based off their numbers being too good or too bad.

[@traingirl3234]

I wonder if just doubling all the numbers could be a place to start? Mana, health, power, etc. (You'd get 2 mana per turn). It wouldn't affect the game balance at all if done correctly since everything would be the same, just double, but it would give them greater resolution when it comes to tweaking numbers. It allows for stats that are effectively like a 2.5. Of course if you fuck up the initial doubling you'd screw everything up, so unless they do it perfectly there might be some risk.

[@Roadrin]

@@traingirl3234 If they were able to afford the number calculations being higher in the games code, I was thinking of just adding a zero on to each number. Instead lf a 1/1 its a 10/10 and then you can do tweaking all the way from 0-9 below a 10/10.

[@traingirl3234]

@@Roadrin Yeah, that would work well. For simplicity's sake maybe you'd only want to use numbers ending in 0 and 5 at first, only increasing to all ten when you really can't balance something

[@koolaidjerk]

Honestly, with how frustrated people are they could have taken a fucking chainsaw to multiple cards and no one would be upset. If conchologist was a 3 mana 1/1 with same effect no one would be mad. There are so many cards out there that don't see any play at all, they could stand to knock some of the current power cards down to that level to actually mix things up.

[@traingirl3234]

@@koolaidjerk I get that. I'm not gonna say I wouldn't love to see a chainsaw taken to minimorph

[@lucastavares206]

I cant get behind the fact that bandle got 4 nerfs. Its insane. Theyre letting the game rot. Unless the meta turns out better, ill be playing only on april

[@anarchytrick1426]

kinda feels like they're being lazy with the stat changes instead of actually good buff/nerfs

[@trooperscientists2000]

My favorite deck used to be Swain Sejuani. Absolutely loved the deck, since I saw it on Mogwais channel and even tho BBGs version was quite different from the other it was still a deck I loved playing. Another deck I enjoyed so much was BBGs fast deep deck... tried to play them again recently and it's impossible. I can still win with some TLC decks I enjoyed, but my main decks are god awful now. Wish they would buff at least the worst of those archetypes.. how is Citybreaker still a card? There is a card that does the same but has impact and a bunch of power on top of that?!

[@darthchungus9964]

Bruh same nth beats the feeling of leviathan strikes freezing their entire board and for swain to finish the job sadly it is next to unplayable rn

[@moshpiler123]

Try adding the stance package, probably not 50+% wr but can steal games

[@darthchungus9964]

@@moshpiler123 you mean switch udyr out for swain for or just put in the stance cards

[@-cukii__pandaa-5968]

@@darthchungus9964 udyr is trash, just the stances.

[@darthchungus9964]

@@-cukii__pandaa-5968 thanks man i'll try it little hesitant becus bandle has a better citybreaker wtih impact

[@noahgilbertson7530]

Swim said Yasuo without laughing 🤔

[@pango4425]

I'm not surprised they didn't buff Udyr. It kept seeing play despite being bad lol.

[@enlightmentxv1548]

Nah fam, they hate on current Udyr, even in LoL. I don't really think they'll buff him until we get the new Udyr in LoL

[@pango4425]

@Enlightment XV A possible explanation. He's also just relatively new still.

[@counterstrike2isdead]

Because he's new

[@pango4425]

@ML is plagiarized game I still saw him a lot 6 weeks later. I don't think that's normal. Granted I'm only at gold rank but still. The copium was strong with this one.

[@charbelchammai845]

@@pango4425 that's because people love udyr and wanna make him work. that's the only reason he is seeing play

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

It'd be nice if Sparklefly could be put back to 2 mana now that Crescendum got changed and Nami was nerfed, because a 1/2 for 3 mana is pretty unplayable even with Zoe, where its whole purpose is to give your board Elusive/Lifesteal. Sisters gives you two 4/3's on top of those keywords if you have board space for 6. Kinda sad the moon weapons got their cost brought down though, that change kills my Tribeam deck.

[@chainsawboy2388]

Honestly kinda glad I quit this game it just feels so boring to play now and these changes are so slow and rarely worthwhile oh well off to tft or something.

[@Terribly_Grimm]

I completely relate to Swims ending statement, I haven't been playing for months all my favourite decks like Ash-LB are unplayable

[@OragniStin]

I've taken a break recently, returned climbing with Ashe LB on EU and it felt great! Can post my list if you like?

[@shaqawan2801]

@@OragniStin post it please

[@OragniStin]

@@shaqawan2801 CECACAYBAIBACAY7EEBAIAYCAQCACAILDYTDAAQCAEBQINIEAEAQCFRJFIAQCBADBA No idea how this will be in the new patch, give it a go and maybe make some changes

[@TigerKirby215]

This patch can best be described as "good but missed some obvious changes." Why no Yordle in Arms nerfs? Why no Udyr buffs? Happy that Aphelios + Viktor is a viable deck now but that's kinda it.

[@dragonhitman1071]

Most people clicked off the page as soon as they saw the yordles and tree text.

[@olagustafsson7555]

Aphelios was probably the deck i had the most fun playing in lor of all time, so im happy that he is back. Though i get that he is kinda toxic, but without the broken 2 cost summons its probably not as bad.

[@protoss5758]

He also lost the Temple

[@alexitosworld]

I still don't understand the limitation for locking things 2 weeks in advance. They said it was because of the mobile stores but I'm not sure I buy that honestly. I've been developing for mobile for years and I can tell you that an update takes at most 2 days nowadays. It feels more like is just part of their process (probably QA) which is fair, but hopefully something they can improve.

[@DanSeadam]

It’s not a hard limitation. They’ve hot fixed-balanced things before, but it makes sense to announce big changes early in order to let people who do enjoy the current meta time to play it.

[@jameschamberlain854]

Ambush is really good for viktor elusive decks I'm probably going to spend this patch almost exclusively with viktor

[@jinipiglim3226]

Swim just nailed how I feel, sometimes I just miss old/meme decks that I've played and went back to try them, and all of them pretty much unplayable TT

[@krasmazov009]

my problem is not the meta. the situation has changed. I am having more fun getting OTKd in Yu-Gi-Oh masterduel than anything in runeterra. I want to play runeterra but almost all new cards recently haven't been for me.

[@truthseeker5447]

Yugioh is trash lmao. its literally everything wrong with LoR but in every single match.

[@Metis7]

@@truthseeker5447 filtered

[@krasmazov009]

@@truthseeker5447 k

[@douglaswalker7707]

@@truthseeker5447 so every card is broken?

[@vipfernandes94]

if everything is broken, nothing is broken eg dota2

[@mensrea1974]

Hmm. Yeah probably won't be back until the 27th. The decks I enjoy playing just get ran over. Maybe I'll see if traps are playable. Or maybe Azir. Underwhelming.

[@kingmric]

If runeterra can't keep up, master duel wins and riot won't like losing profits

[@ethanowens473]

So, before I even get into this video, I gotta say something. For gameplay and deck builds, I preffer watching grapplr. I feel his playstyle is more my speed. But for theory and general meta info, I feel like swim here has the best overall sense of what's good and bad. Edit: also, you can't pull telescope with crescendum, so that's nice.

[@protoss5758]

You can't pull anything with crescendum

[@ethanowens473]

@@protoss5758 I'm aware it's random based on region now, but telescope being 3 mana removes it from the card pool completely, where as if it had stayed at 2, it would have been a posibility.

[@hoangvietnguyen5576]

In short the game is so toxic now, 70 luck and 30 skill. But, good thing is, maybe Riot wants their game to be this way, so they actually succeed in doing so.

[@exu7325]

It's a card game lul. It has *ALWAYS* been more about luck than skill.

[@hoangvietnguyen5576]

@@exu7325 then maybe I am too old school haha. Cause the game was the opposite 1 year ago. U still have card like rex that is luck base, but u can PLAY around those because they are in the card poll. U can’t play around manifest u know and that frustrates old players like me. But maybe that’s just me, and maybe the dev is heading in a right way.

[@Xyltin]

Flashtraps still QoL problems. Like being able to draw 3 traps and they all deal dmg to a 1/1 instead of moving overhead dmg towards another random target.

[@ivanpanganiban4149]

Until I dont see a single deep deck change I wont play the game I've stop for nearly a year I still update it for some reason

[@imanujakku]

It’s funny seeing peoples reactions as I haven’t time to play since the arcade event started and have missed this whole yordles and bandle city meta. I wish they could have given pyke something like a buff to rippers bay changing the top card to lurk so he was playable without shurima.

[@ethandickie]

They’re pretty underwhelming

[@Pedropaulopoloni]

Next time add "we'll fix it next patch" to the bingo sheet.

[@godfreysneakily2802]

Quicksand seems pretty strong now

[@Depressed_Spider]

It actually is. I've been running this card as a triple in mono because it makes leveling Renekton hilariously easy and is most of the time simply a better Hush. Seeing this card grow even stronger makes me kinda wanna pog.

[@toorealforlife8139]

Always has been IMO. Been playing Ziggs/Taliyah for a couple weeks and it is frequently the MVP of the deck

[@xaius4348]

I kinda wish they made twice discipline grant +2/0 or +0/2 instead

[@counterstrike2isdead]

Or make it 3 cost mana

[@MOnTIrOVkO]

@@counterstrike2isdead Twin disciplines already be 3 mana. It makes it unplayable.

[@vipfernandes94]

2 mana +2/+0 or +0/+2 seems like a very very very uselees troll chant...

[@xaius4348]

@@vipfernandes94 it's ionia. Having a good combat trick is kinda out of place, and it's a region that can make use of the grant to some extent

[@xaius4348]

@@vipfernandes94 still 100% better than targon's 2 mana grant 0/2

[@devilnight2569]

2:40 As a mono Xerath(shurima) player, I'm happy to see that he was so wrong about that. The only thing keeping this deck in check after sundisc buff was the fact that Azir is too slow for Xerath deck. so it's better to just try to 1 turn flip Renekton with unleashed energy or play countdown reduction. But it isn't nearly as consistent compare to now.

[@seanhutt4621]

So most of the problems come from the iPhone Apple store that requires 99% of all changes to a product offered on the store be okayed and submitted at least a month in advance they give a little bit of wiggle room for small emergency things but in general you can't make changes without following this rule more than maybe one small change a year People need to get over the instant gratification mentality of wanting these things fixed immediately and understand the business side of it where it's not up to the company to change apples policy and please redirect your hate at the Apple store thanks

[@mrexpress02]

Sure but BC problem has been in the game for way longer than 1 month

[@shintruth2716]

Except it's a lie. Look at TFT updates ...

[@vipfernandes94]

just look at gwent, hearthstone or tft updates... lor is a joke

[@seanhutt4621]

@@shintruth2716 I work in the industry I make apps that go on the store this is a no way shape or form a lie it is factual you should look it up

[@mrmysterycake]

My favorite deck, Targon's Peak, has 3 She Who Wanders in it. This is a delightful change since we keep getting low attack champions!

[@frescopino7866]

Like... I get not buffing Udyr, he's new and probably will need more than a stat increase. But Bandle Tree and YIA have been in the game for months, and they've been consistently screwing the game since. How can they NOT have something for them after all this time?

[@lexdotart]

Petition to rename to Fraternal Twin Disciplines

[@najaytheslug]

Hey guys hows TFT looking? I was thinking of getting into auto battlers is it in a better state than current LOR?

[@benjaminhartsock3281]

Tft's current state is "Rush your archetype's carry, or know the exact build you're going to go by minute 3" anything else will get you annihilated, as this set is very much aimed at the very skilled players.This also means that the more easily played teams are highly contested in low elo lobbies, which means that the skilled/randomly lucky players win there too.

[@pharaoh2426]

As a lee sin main, these patch notes feel absolutely devastating.

[@protoss5758]

Akshan Lee Sin might work, but as a control main likewise. Darkness received 3 nerfs, nothing rose up to fill the control void and Brandle Tree still exists. I have more hope for Hearthstone's expansion than for whatever is April 27 in LoR.

[@queendread4427]

I feel like they should give spells atune or a similar keyword. Spell mana basically has a value of .5 mana and it would help find the in between for spells that are good or terrible with 1 mana like Twin Deciples

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

Spells with Attune makes no real sense to me, you're just getting the mana refunded.

[@queendread4427]

@@100organicfreshmemes5 it's mana you can't use on units or landmarks and it also costs more to get it out in the first place. There are many disadvantages of costing one more mana and having attune, but in the end you're spending the same amount of mana. Say for example if Twin deciples was a 3 mana spell with atune. You can't buff your 1 drop at turn two. You can't use that 1 spell mana you just got for another 1 drop. However, at the end of the day, you have spent 2 mana for it. There doesn't seem to be too big of a difference if you were sitting on 3 spell mana anyways, but it has very clear disadvantages that could balance out the fact that it's pretty cheap

[@Nwordsoup]

@@queendread4427 Do you understand how broken it would be if spells were able to refund mana, for champs like Heimer and Karma? Even if it's a single mana gem.

[@queendread4427]

@@Nwordsoup no it's not broken in the slightest if the original cost is increased as a result, which is what I've been implying in the first place. If I were to balance Twin Disciples, it'd cost 3 mana and refund one spell mana.

[@tarmairon431]

@@queendread4427 It would be good for Karma because she actually would get 2 gems back after turn 10 and Heimer would get better turrets.

[@Blad071]

Riot: just do something radical and different for once; delete/disable bandle tree for a time and see how that affects the game and community. It's just one card and the grand majority of your player base is not happy with it to begin with it.

[@0BluePrototype0]

I never come across bandle tree tbh

[@Blad071]

@@0BluePrototype0 Probably because everyone is tired of it even the people that played it. The card's design is lazy and bland; what type of person would enjoy playing that in the first place?

[@tikiwiki7428]

@@Blad071 me i like it i think its a very fun deck

[@exe_]

I, for once, am glad that a lot of these changes are kind of on the low side and, they will impact the lower ranks, which is IMO the most important demographic of the game.

[@danha3107]

having not really played the game for several months due to classes and personal stuff, it’s fucking wild to hear that darkness is a powerful deck lmaooo

[@deerdren]

Just remove the whole bandle city and game is saved no? :)

[@MytzerL]

The only place I see Fiora now is on Swim's outros Sadge

[@jysonberrington3131]

All i took away fromt his video is that riot does not hear us!

[@snipecrossgg4397]

This patch could save the game like Will Smith's slap saved the Oscars... I'm hopeful but Bandle Demacia is still going to be busted.

[@RealTrentertainment]

I'm not a fan of the UX update. It's a waste of time on their part. We have oracle's eye. We don't need the game dumbed down any further. It's kinda insulting the more I think about it.

[@kodoy]

How does this dumb down the game, it just helps with clarity especially for newer players. how is it INSULTING rofl NOTHING CHANGED

[@vipfernandes94]

@@kodoy just wait until spaghetti code stuff happens...

[@RealTrentertainment]

@@kodoy Maybe I'm alone in this but, I think it's insulting because it's calling us stupid. While the eye shows the end result, this takes it a step further and shows you all work on each step, in real time. Ya know, cuz we can't do simple math. Ya know, I didn't think that 8/8 would kill my 3/3, but thanks to the new UX, I understand. Thanks Riot, for spending time on this much needed visual.

[@kodoy]

@@RealTrentertainment You're looking at this entirely the wrong way. This type of thing is not implemented because devs think you can't do basic maths, it's there to improve clarity and functionality (mainly for newer players i think, ones who are not used to the eye yet). while it's true you can check whatever the new UX is telling you on the eye or do maths, it also expedites the process. LoR is not meant to test your ability to subtract and add, that's not what the game is about, so the faster and more conveniently that you can get that information, the faster you can think about your play, your action. It's the same reason why people still wish for a number displaying how many cards they hold in hand - it's not that they can't count, it's that this is not a skill the game is supposed to test. Obviously everyone can count. But it's annoying, it's not part of the game's challenge - just wastes time. Furthermore the people who work on improving the UX are definitely not the same people that work on card design/balance at Riot. So if you were implying they wasted time on this feature while they should be doing something more important, that's also a misguided sentiment

[@RealTrentertainment]

@@kodoy That is a fair point, I suppose. Personally, I would prefer they clarify some of the card text. I wish the text was as clear as it is in mtg. I'm also afraid of machines doing all our calculations and humans just get dumber. However, I'm sure I'm in the minority. Maybe it's a sign that I look for a new game.

[@ohhhthatsabaseball856]

So basically this patch is Bandle city is broken af ->bandle city is broken

[@Kurakami15]

Was the pyke nerf necessary?

[@kingki1953]

Yes, i hate lurk. They are going to fast

[@jaypeterson1324]

@@kingki1953 but was Pyke the issue? All the stuff I looked at showed more issues with the ramp potential of the archetype mixed with Call The Pack+Rek’Sai procs.

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

Yes

[@_holy__ghost]

lurk can burn in hell, i dont care how good it actually is, its such a braindead fucking archetype that plays a card game with the grace and subtlety of a sledgehammer to the cranium

[@pluralofgems]

Pyke spell being removal that you just have to be "if they have it they have it" a lot of the time is rough

[@Forever-ec8tm]

The title of this video could fit every patch released since irelia azir lmao.

[@Luca-re3ve]

some buff were rly welcomed, but not buffing udyr and still NOT TOUCHING KATARINA its so bad. She barelly se play since literaly game release. Im so disappointed, so fucking disappointed

[@darksteelmenace595]

They nerfed my fiora deck :( I was running telescope and sharpsight. That 1 power more from sharpsight is really clutch, damn it

[@stefanolozardo9711]

Telescope and sharpsight were one of the most broken cards anyway. Ot was bound to happen

[@mintegral1719]

Would you still recommend running 3x Telescope in your Fae Combo lists?

[@NeroEB]

I stopped playing this garbage game, it's nice to see they are trying to fix the game but I think it's too far gone. Game has been going down hill since shurima and the mini expansion after bandle city was the last straw for most of the community. Happy to see streamers move away from this game and go to better things. When you have a patch with this many damn changes and people still don't think it's good enough your game is a mess.

[@JohnGrahamDoe]

I'm watching the 33 patch notes that save the game 33 minutes after upload... I am become Zilean, destroyer of worlds.

[@SomniaCE]

Power creep happening this fast is just genuinely horrifying for the longevity of the game. I don't need this game to end up in a Yugioh type situation just 3-4 years after launch but that is exactly the direction it is heading in.

[@Tulkash01]

Was Demacia being dominant? Because I can see 2 huge nerfs to a couple of tyheir best cards with no compensation (who's going to play king Jarvan at 7 mana even with S5?)

[@pluralofgems]

It was dominant because a lot of demacia decks were generally good into bandle city stuff

[@protoss5758]

Demacia is the best region, actually stronger than even Brandle City

[@Tulkash01]

@@protoss5758 yeah… sure. What Demacian decks are ruling the meta?

[@protoss5758]

@@Tulkash01 Scouts, Pantheon, Tristana Fae. Are you in silver league where Lurk supposedly reigns supreme or something.

[@Tulkash01]

@@protoss5758 actually I’m seeing a lot of bandle city ruling the meta. Sometimes they get paired very effectively with Demacia but nerfing Demacia is actually solving nothing. Btw Tristana is a bandle city champion… did you mean Poppy?

[@sebastianecheverry4458]

seeing the videos after one week and the meta completely changed.

[@doublesalopetoimcre]

katarina is a 3 mana card that always recall... xD meanwhile bandle city okay

[@laycosdemir2694]

What happened to the channel and website tho?

[@xaius4348]

Buffed my favorite champion, sick. It'll make him a lot easier to play early, especially against fast decks where you really want as many chances at getting lifesteal as possible, but couldn't afford to bank mana. Not gamebreaking, but it'll matter sometimes. Most of the decks I ran with him aimed to level him really fast with gems or breaks anyways, but I'l take anything. Particularly happy that they nerfed pantheon, since he felt like a better viktor most of the time. Edit: Calculated creations buff is huge though! 6 copies of iterative, and it doesnt need to target a ballistic bot on board.

[@pango4425]

Victor's definitely way better, but imo it's not enough. Victor wasn't just bad. He was AWFUL. We're talkin 41% wr bad. Sure, he might go up to 46%, which is huge relatively, but it's still not good. I wish the Hexcore upgrade was focus speed so that the opponent doesn't have all the time in the world to prepare, but it's something. I hope I'm wrong because I love Viktor. As for Calculated Creations, I mean eh. It's okay. Typically you want to use Iterative on better things than a Ballistic Bot, but Creations isn't conditional so I may consider it.

[@xaius4348]

@@pango4425 yeah, he ain't going up by 5%

[@pango4425]

@Xaius I'm high on copium. He works well with Aph. My point was that either way he ain't gonna be meta.

[@xaius4348]

@@pango4425 agreed, at least he'll be more playable now.

[@CJDM310]

the aphelios landmark no longer granting health I think is still a big deal to keep him from getting too crazy.

[@diogosalgado]

Just replace it with Nami, the biggest winner of the patch

[@JohnSmith-gk8vd]

26:30 ye i'm a beta player and an old player deep deck,didn't touch the game since Lee sin was OP, was wondering if i could come back and play my deep deck,but if you're saying it got hard overcreeped,it doesn't give me the will to come back :(

[@pango4425]

Hopefully Gnar is not as omnipresent and Zoe is actually decent again.

[@tarmairon431]

Why would Zoe be better now?

[@Pommypocket]

Bro has swim literally never heard the word “conch” before?

[@brodiethebuilder8496]

I COULD FINALLY PLAY MONO SHURIMA

[@amine1644]

In gold? Yeah sure

[@Ven_detta_]

Why is this Valorant streamer talking about the Lor patch notes

[@Isatheduck]

No changes to uydr :(

[@-8h-]

I've been playing hearthstone since Beta, this game is far from needing saving.

[@IsBeyond]

Cracked sand

[@quantran1824]

So what would happen in 3.5? Why did they push Bandle tree to 3.6?

[@kwayke9]

Wait, since Rumble's a mecha yordle, does he still level up if he attacks?

[@Gaze73]

Desert duel is great for leveling Rene.

[@hanifbaekhaqi4185]

Sacred protector + overwhelm lee

[@wolfpox]

Doesn't all the Viktor and creation cards end up buffing Bandle indirectly again?

[@joaquinpavon682]

i'd get into tft if you started making content on it

[@doublesalopetoimcre]

no udyr buff... you said it and i remembered that there is a champ called udyr in both runaterra and lol as well... fuck mee wtf? :D riot wtf?

[@hiitsmejeses2258]

I've read somewhere that fiora will gonna get buffed but ive been victimized of fake news hahaha

[@p.a.r.c1694]

J3 getting buffed after i saw the new J4 combo deck? It must be a message from god.

[@shaqawan2801]

Which deck is that?

[@p.a.r.c1694]

@@shaqawan2801 the transposition J4 J3 DECK. You play J3 and transposition him having at least 2 J4 in hand and start the attack summoning all J4s for free.

[@RandomPerson-ys9kx]

Fk bandle city and this patch, if they knew YIA and bandle tree was such a hot target for nerfs why can’t they just increase its mana cost temporarily as they work on their pending “solution”. Can’t believe that adjusting card stats/cost would take months to hit while other games could easily release a quick patch if necessary. Now we have to wait again a whole month, can’t even enjoy playing pvp anymore with all this swarm decks flourishing in all modes. Imagine playing SI freljord control and even after a board wipe they’ll just fill the board again like it’s nothing. Wtf?

[@counterstrike2isdead]

So LoR game would die just like Artifacts?

[@junztermax4387]

No Diana Buff

[@Helikite]

MONO SHURIMA HOPIUM LESSGO POG

[@lostnova6027]

Oh no viktor buff. Now viktor in PoTC gonna be harder.

[@kurpel3499]

I left the game because i cant commit for both tft and lor

[@abangthor1330]

So sad... Nocturne need buff or rewwork

[@rslgomes]

rumble is to swim like yasuo is to mogwai