Will This Powercreep Train EVER Stop In Reverse 1999?!

[@Randomnesshopeless1086]

They could revamp old unit. To make old unit become relevant in new meta and not make them become power creep.

[@fluffycat654]

They kind of do that for the limbos.

[@Randomnesshopeless1086]

Enlighten me

[@ditrypand8273]

@@fluffycat654 hi, can you elaborate?

[@reoshikumo135]

The simple thing they can do is add some buff mechanic into the game. They could buff old unit with every new patch. Such as increase their base stats by a bit, or improve their ability or just add new effect to their kit. For example Eternity, they could add some effect to her 1st card such as giving weakness to the target or increase the duration of her nasty wound by 1 round. If they still see these character being underwhelming they could buff them again in the future.

[@fluffycat654]

@@ditrypand8273 I know it’s not the nest example but those buff they give for the limbos like follow up attacks do more dmg etc. people used new babel more for that limbo. Once again I know it’s not the next example so you can flame me idrc

[@SlimTk7]

My personal opinion, on powercreep is how long the game is been out and how many units were getting every patch since were getting 3 new units every patch; 2 new 6 stars and 1 new 5 star to be exact (without counting reruns), it will take a few years more or 2-3 years until the game powercreeps other units, so far we had signs with regulus, eternity, ms new babel, and other older units, so are we there yet currently, no not really maybe in patches 3.0 or above that will we consider powercreeping, now there are 2 ways to sum up powercreeping because in most gacha games it just requires these two: 1) who outperforms the other units in terms of damage, flexibility, utility and plenty more to sum it up, (pretty much meta talk). 2) when content starts becoming a f2p road block, but still currently rather it be global or CN, we haven't even faced i3 level 60 enemies or above because were still dealing with i3 level 30 enemies keeping the balance of the game. In conclusion, powercreeping as a whole right now whether it be patches 1.5 or 1.8 isn't still considered since we have very less amount of 6 stars being powercrept currently. Small Edit: I just want to say some specific old 6-stars still hold relevancy in content rather it be raid, uttu, limbo.

[@MrYamiBakura]

Powercreep isn't wrong, but the speed with what they're doing it is worrisome. I love this game and I really want it to be longevous. I do hope that this all is just an elevation of sorts and things settle on a plateau eventually. Someone also mentioned a revamp for the launch characters so that would definitely be welcome.

[@thetimeisnow2827]

At this point the powercreeping new chararacters will blitz the entire Manus Vindictae.

[@Randomnesshopeless1086]

Nah with jiu p5 they gonna bet for her mercy

[@ReedRichards_]

​@@Randomnesshopeless1086 bruh p5 lucy is all we need😂

[@cepsyr8634]

HSR is also a turn based game and it has managed it so well. Erudition got its purpose with new game mode. Aether Gazer gives old characters a glowup. Their launch unit S Tsukiyomi got glowup and it's '5*' unit Buzembo got a 6* version so team that players ran at launch is back. R1999 is very simplified in it's meta powercreep. I would rather they sell team combos (counter, followup, poision, delay/slow etc) that does freakish damage so people get that trio and be done than keep replacing one character for TF and 6. It's very bad IMO. HSR example would be Black Swann is useless for players who don't have Nihility teams or Topaz if you don't have follow up.

[@KokkyGachas]

For sure there are alot of ways to make old units relevant again though it might have to be something drastic as older units are more one dimensional and it doesn't help that they do 1/3 the DPS of the new units these days.

[@DisIngRaM]

​​​@KokkyGachas old units relevant again, for sure doable. But will you use them if they are like half or 75% as effective compared to new characters. It will "feel bad to use", especially when you compare them to guides and content creators.

[@namicarrot198]

Hmm so far, all the contents can still be completed using old 6* characters, still safe for now. What stresses me out is, the new characters kits are getting more and more complicated to use. There are so many layers of mechanics and names going on to stake damages and debuffs sometimes I forgot how they works. Gone are the days of simple play style like just applying debuffs and then just throw damage cards. Its just me, I prefer to enjoy the game simpler and saves time.

[@viktorkurious3340]

i think with a game like r1999 as long as you can clear content with older characters whether it be hard or easy, power creeping isn't generally an issue until they start releasing content to where you can't clear things unless you have said new characters. this would change how the game works if you spend money on the game because you're not being rewarded the extra currency in games where spending is a bit more encouraged (ie getting more pulls for clearing harder content because you spent money) and it would also suck because if you dont spend, you can't get the same rewards you used to get. I think my philosphy when it comes to power creeping is if youre a whale, you get f2p rewards plus extra and if youre f2p you can get the same rewards just not the extra ones, this way there's an incentive or like a cash back system if you spend money. I start disliking power creep when you have to spend money to get what used to be f2p rewards and f2p players can't clear the same amount of content. --- Sorry for the tangent.

[@viktorkurious3340]

power creeping is inevitable and people will get enough to always pull for new characters, it all depends on how hard they make clearing content be to get rewards for whales and f2p alike

[@Winter_Bun]

The thing is the limbo and Manes bulletin pretty much always follows the new characters. When 37 was released im pretty sure the limbo was increased genesis damage and same with manes bulletin for the first one at least.

[@spraygospel5539]

powercreep things in any gacha games: 1. initial release chracter will mostly get powercrept 2. characters that rely heavily on DPS is the easiest to get powercrept by units that can give higher number of DPS 3. characters that have unique ability other than DPS is harder to get powercrept. conclusion: powercreep will always be there in any gacha games to get people to spend money so the game can continues. Therefore, it's not entirely bad. but it's all my opinion tho. I can be wrong.

[@kenomenorias3200]

You are entirely correct and I agree 👍

[@yoru8876]

Tbf, not all gacha games have powercreep issue. Even in games with powercreep units, imho it's alright if the powercrept unit last long enough, maybe 7 months or so. But basically units like Eternity or KB, they only last for like 3 patches. That's still too short imho

[@zaidalbass]

Not all gacha and not that fast

[@Unforgiving_Eye]

Exactly, even if they release a healer that's 3x stronger than both TF and Vila in the far future, that doesn't mean old healers like them are completely useless. Powercreep for DPS is a different topic though because damage numbers can always change.

[@DisIngRaM]

It's wrong, I won't explain with wall of text, just think again the following factor in this game: This is gacha game The current pace of powercreep How you will feel with your old units after 1.8 Crowding of units Pool dilutions

[@happygolucky555]

You are right when you mentioned the skins, they should just release their skins together with the new units. Every patch is always skins for old units. The skins available now other than lilya's have been disappointing thus far imo.

[@lucustwyatt1960]

Powercreep too fast = Game dies faster

[@rizvirahat3930]

prime example tower of fantasy . pime exception genshin impact

[@moshonkaezha]

​@@rizvirahat3930genshin doesn't have any powercreep lol, you can easily clear abyss with old units

[@Buchibu]

​@@moshonkaezha That's literally what he said lol

[@Billy_Bat1993]

Punishing Grey Raven or Honkai Impact disagree with you

[@moshonkaezha]

@@Buchibu my english is bad so I don't really get what he was meaning to say, but whatever, my point still stands cuz genshin and powercreep don't belong in the same sentence

[@UggoBass]

As the game gets older I think it's normal for story sections to become harder requiring more invested/max leveled characters and psychubes and it follows that new characters and psychubes will powercreep older sets to deal with new content or mechanics. However, I think that the devs need to show a gesture of good faith that older characters will at least be upgraded to be on par with new content and mechanics. This seems even more important due to the speed in which it is taking place, otherwise they run the risk of spenders spending less due to planned obsolescence.

[@Mask-re9re]

99% is story and 1% gameplay. The game is promoted as a story game, not for gameplay. Only content creators promote it only for gamplay, but in reality it is a story game

[@FreecellZlo]

ye, and all this boss modes, uttu, limbo just doesnt exist.

[@Mask-re9re]

For the raid you must get at least A for all important rewards, Uttu for the story you need up to 20 and for the shop you need up to 25, limbo gives 600 clear drops = 3 pulls, from 1 to 4 is very easy = 400, Events story I was able to beat the boss from 1.3 with a team full of 3 stars because it automatically increases their lvl, Main story 1.4 boss recommends I3 lvl 30 on hard I beat with I3 lvl 10 with full stars. If you have max lvl characters and know how to use them, you can do anything

[@FreecellZlo]

@@Mask-re9re If you have max lvl characters and know how to use them, you can do anything YET

[@puellabella3580]

Its become a gameplay centered game for many people when it turned out the main story is god damn impossible to follow.

[@michaellee5068]

Since you need to be able to beat Limbo now, you have to make do with what you've got unless you have Carry units (Melania, Centurion, A Knight, etc) to substitute missing Afflatus. I don't regret pulling for Jessica even if Marcus powercreeps her. Jessica has been Plant Queen for 5 patches and Marcus won't arrive til like October. And it's not like I need to pull for Marcus anyway. Just like how having either Centurion or Melania reduces the need to pull Spathodea. Pure DPS will eventually get powercreeped by something that can deal dmg more easier (when they make another limited char, it's unlikely to be Mineral tho so don't worry about Jiu's extended warranty that we've been trying to reach you-). If you want good future-proof investments you should pull characters that have incredible utility/support like 6 or Isolde. Jiu is also an option because she will Carry you regardless of enemy Afflatus (besides strong Star or Control enemies anyway).

[@astroboy8000]

they can add a game mode that requires 3 or more teams expand the gap between mental and reality dps

[@Unforgiving_Eye]

Imagine a 5 man team 💀 That would be cool and gives more characters action points

[@Oliveralk]

Reverse is a story game. The developers care more about the story than the gameplay, powercreep doesn't matter. If you play only for gameplay, you have a good chance of not playing anymore.

[@daleryanaldover6545]

True this, I've been playing for the story. I didn't even bothered to SSS Maine's event. I simply rush through AS and if I can't clear last stage I just let it that way, it sucks but the game is increasing enemy stats every update.

[@yuriyuireny]

A reason why I'm not afraid of powercreep from this game is because there is no PvP and please never add it in Bluepoch. We don't necessarily need to rush for meta to climb rank or go against other p2w players but instead, we can all enjoy this game with whoever we like. Honestly, that is one of the main reason why I enjoy this game so much, no pressure to build meta and just have fun with silly teams.

[@AnimeWineAuntie]

If new game content advances to the point where you can’t complete it without super overpowered new characters, then you lock out such a huge potential audience. That’s when I think it will be a problem. We are very close to that, however, I think with raids.

[@DisIngRaM]

I prefer they introduce units that encourage smart and resourceful team building than the current treatment of powercreep by the devs.

[@mint779]

somehow I got used to this powercreep after years of playing Honkai 3rd, especially the trio Herscher team that is extremely expensive to invest but 2 of them only lasted for a year and the other one may get powercrept at a faster rate than anticipated 💀

[@kevinwalsh9467]

HI3 DPS characters tend to remain the best against their bosses for a very long time. What happens is that Mihoyo simply doesn't run their bosses any more. But at least in EU you can be reasonably competitive with old units - I've promoted from Redlotus against type counter Jizo Mitama/Dark Jixuanyuan using Twilight Paladin even though my Herrscher of Rebirth doesn't have her gear, simply because most people don't have a good Mech phys DPS.

[@tienvu1282]

Just by being better than HSR for f2p player is already a plus for me, and consider you get 24 pulls for free each patch, that's already plenty more than it, along with the lower pity as well. REgarding powercreep, as long as the game is clearable with just standard + a few stonk units, then its all good. If they get too hard in event story we can just ask for support like HSR/Arknight. So far the real challenge content is Raid which is...whatever, not affect your pull income. Unless the game decided to tweak up Limbo for hardcore whale, i have no objection to powercreep consider UTTU can be viable even for Babel.

[@charoenwat]

As a collector who is fine with p0 unit I think is really okay because for me this is just a way for them to make money with new player every patch meaning whenever you start you will get the character that’s newest and at the power level that can help you clear content in short term which will make you enjoy the present contents right away and continue playing. And to be honest people not only get characters based on abilities but rather appearances I think so if they see a good looking character, they might not even care if it’s as good as the previous character or not in some cases because the longer you play that the point where you have sufficient units, to clear content and the rest it’s just your preference in conclusion. I don’t think everyone is aiming for the highest power possible all the time anyway. The problem will be more with people who whaled. Because the faster the character become obsolete the less value the money they put in becomes and that’s risky for the game too.

[@rikune8827]

I mean it's okay, this kind of PvE games is more focused on early & mid game, then it's just to pull and play for chars you like most, and at the moment all characters will be added to permanent banner in some point except for Jiu Niangzi

[@delayed0]

😭 wdym okay people?? When will power creep be okay?? Like? It just spells uncreativeness from the devs, like they could add more elemental types and damage type to add more mechanics and start from there and not make older characters obsolete.

[@ishfail]

i feel like this is mainly because of the ‘must-pulls’ being added to standard tbh

[@SinSiete777]

Shamane eternity and medicine pocket carried my account lol I don't got other units so I'm happy bout the damage lol

[@Wario788]

The power creep hurts me, I tried to use Centurion but I didn't go from S in mane bulletin so I pull for Spathodea and Isolde since it is a very strong combo

[@ffxfgxsfxxxg2419]

I am worried about powercreep as a f2p player because I enjoy playing this game and it has genuinely been my only game since launch for the past 7 months

[@currysonata5382]

It's honestly not really a powercreep yet. Old units can still perfectly clear contents in 1.4 and I don't doubt they can perfectly clear 1.5. None of the old units have effectively render your old units obsolete. That said, powercreep will still be inevitable, especially in a turn-based game. I came from games like GBF & Dokkan Battle and powercreep is a real menace there. TLDR: Chill out and enjoy the ride. Powercreep ain't here yet.

[@anyaaa2801]

Can you talk about Lucy?

[@rhaias7279]

I think every new patch will try to powercreep old units, it's not they want to, but they should. This way will make new character become more intriguing for the player, and we will go for the banner. But it's exceptional for the limited unit like Jiu. I think they should kept her OP, just because she's limited. So older units will never used again? They can bring it again with buff and nerf system, or bring new mechanics that need some of old units for better output. Now we don't have much units yet, but when we reach the point where count of character is stacked, they need to make that system to make every unit can have a good use

[@lens_hunter]

Powercreep doesnt bother me in this game. You cant get every character unless you're a whale, so not everyone is gonna have their exisiting characters made obsolete.

[@calvin8759]

I think what will happen to arknights will be the future of r1999. New units that slightly overcrept until a certain cap, then they will start doing gimmick characters with good designs.

[@billdecou242]

Is there power creep? Yes. Is it an issue? Not really until content is tuned specifically for that difficulty. There are a few ways they can fix it by releasing either very niche units that buff the older ones or by directly/indirectly buffing the older units. An indirect buff could be a system update where I like the example of saying Resonance 5/10/15 could also increase the passive effect of their insight, give the older units stronger increases (maybe introduce new mechanics or add Eureka to them) and make newer units more in line or designed with the system in mind. The direct method is stuff like Personal Psycubes, similar to Bond CEs from FGO or personal/unique equipment.

[@Alex-rn1zo]

Personally I don't see a problem since you can still beat the game and get full stars in limbo or great scores in raids without perfect units. I've seen people getting triple s in raids with 3 stars and I only focus on my favorite characters instead of meta and with some strategy I can get good scores and full limbo stars. This would be a huge problem if these units are an absolute must to get a decent score but so far I think they are more of a flex of sorts

[@FreecellZlo]

you can, cos its EU server... true powercreep started in 1.6

[@Alex-rn1zo]

@@FreecellZlo does limbo and other content really get that hard?

[@potatopcgamer739]

I kind of hate the power creeping speed in the game , I know it dosnt effect much but it does in my mind and kind of lost the meaning of getting chars , I like the story So Decided to quit the gameplay stuff forever and will only install and play when the main stories take place .

[@daleryanaldover6545]

I've been saying these since release, Reverse 1999 is just a glorified resource simulator that had good stories in it. You win end game if you have the resource and units suited for challenging current content. Otherwise you sit and wait for next challenge rotation and hope you clear it. Enemy stats has been increasing every update and we cannot do something about it other than get ourselves a competitive unit, which means pulling for the meta characters.

[@turntapeover5749]

Units might powercreep other units, but the content sure doesn't follow. But here's the important fact of life: Pridwen and CN content creators give terrible advices when they tell people that they should save ressources and spread only get to i3L30R10 while in the same breath telling people to not spread themselves too thin when that method is exactly what it causes. MAX👏THAT👏SHIT👏. Of course you'll struggle to clear the raids if you run units at 2/3 of their power and will need to pull for 6 to SSS when you run a bunch of R10s when the jump between R10 and R15 on a full party is night and day. I played since day 1 and could clear the first limbo. And if I had listened to CN I would have bought the crystal caskets because they're so rare instead of doing to sensible thing and buy cacophonis which, you know, I could actually use unlike the caskets that would have sat there unusable and keep on struggling with a bunch of R4s. If you started day 1 in global and paid for the season pass and got extra caskets, you should have 1 party of each afflatus maxed out at this point and F2P should have at least 2, maybe 3. Hell, I still run some very specific 3 and 4 stars I maxed out as a 4th unit in Limbo like La Source, Twin Sleep, Zima, Darley Clatter etc cuz they still offer good support in their niche and saved me from pulling on other units cuz they still get the job done. So, powercreep? Yes, but no.

[@EverythingIsFabulous]

This is a consequence of Jiu being too powerful. They are forced to release new characters who are on par with her, otherwise there will be too much of a power gap between players who have Jiu and players who don't and it will be difficult to balance the game. What we're seeing is a second generation of characters around Jiu's power level who will replace the first generation of characters from the game's launch. It's unfortunate for players who really like the launch characters but maybe they can do some rebalancing when Insight 4 is released.

[@gozluklubeethoven200yilonce]

Will I4 be released? Is this approved?

[@NiffisWorld]

Powercreep in gachas is normal. Limited units being stronger than unlimited is also quite common. It all depends on how they implement it. For eyample i dislike the first raid this patch heavily favouring 37 in a way that other units basicly cant even get close to her. It shows on the other hand that Bluepoch can balance even overpowered units by adding boss mechanics. They also have ways to help older units by releasing Psychubes that are good for them. Best current examle is A Knight, who was pretty decent but got a big boost in power with "Balance Please".

[@Mekeweissame]

I hate when games aren’t well-balanced and there is a clear ‘national’ team that outshines everything else 😮‍💨 the only thing this is telling me is ‘pull only for characters with top tier aesthetics, because meta kits are going to be replaced in a few months anyway’. Which lets me safely skip a fair few.

[@flatdefgod2960]

After 1.5 ,i might quit R1999 if Their end game content limbo is hard without them( i mean older unit cant full star limbo anymore bc i see now full 4* comp cant full star 1.4 limbo)Since i got tooth fairy and jessica,i never miss full star limbo Or raid content ( if i can't achieve S tier anymore with older unit) Quite sad if this happen but i know small gacha game always been "Cash Grab " and overload powercreep ( i mean idc about powercreep bc you cant escape powercreep from gacha game ) But at least tooth fairy and 6 become must pull unit...they r at 1.2 or 1.4 so (in 1.3 and 1.1 ez skip ) but 1.6 we got Jiu(STRONGEST DPS),1.7 we got isolde(STRONGEST SUPPORT DPS) and 1.8 we got vila(STRONGEST SUSTAIN)? Dude the broken/meta/must pull unit on same 3 continuous patch 😂

[@tienvu1282]

cough*HSR*cough, you literally have 1 must pull DD, 2 extremely good support if not must pull, and now you also have the strongest sustain (yes shield is WAY stronger than Heal consider the game trash gear system). At least its still better that you dont get subjected to rng shiet in what should be guarantee, the gear system.

[@thailehuy]

From 1.6, all raids are clearable at SSS with many teams and without portraits, if you can't do that, sorry to say but skill issue. Raid become number flexing spot instead of being hard. People even SSS with satsuki and sweetheart, how hard can it be? 4* can't clear this limbo because they don't have genesis, but guess what, 3* the fool can It's really more about building what you have than looking at meta. For me I skip 6, but I still SSS raid, what must pull is that?

[@flatdefgod2960]

@@tienvu1282 HSR is different tho😂 eventhough r1999 don't have RNG gear system but they have RNG card🤣🤣

[@flatdefgod2960]

@@thailehuy is that so? I'm looking forward that if 1.6 raid is ez SSS with 5* comp? (Even in 1.4 sea serpent raid is impossible to S tier without tooth fairy or genesis dealer/star DPS/Eureka unit🤣) remember most of "limbo buff" based on newest unit I can expect"1.6 limbo buff " favor on Jiu and getian kit

[@thailehuy]

​@@flatdefgod2960 I said nothing about 5* comp, I said many teams can SSS, are you saying you don't have any 6*? (although the robot raid can be SSS with 4 healers and dikke main dps) Serpent is only for 1.4 and 1.5, and yes serpent is impossible to SSS without 37, but that's just 1 raid and it's gone from 1.6 Limbo favoring jiu and getian doesn't mean you can't beat it without jiu and getian, in fact even eternity can beat limbo 1.6 You can search all that up on youtube itself but you choose to believe that if you can't do it, no one can

[@Sh0rt_F0x1]

I got all the characters I wanted easily, maybe I just have good luck but I’m a free to play player and I’m just fine. The only hard thing is leveling them up, and that takes time for a free to play player like myself. But I find my ways to do it.

[@Nekokuronel]

Is tootfairy still must have in 1.6? I new player with only have melania medicine 6 and 37 only have 30 pull now and banner tootfairy rerun 1.5 next few day will be jiu 😢

[@zsanit1]

I'm just waiting for the standards to powercreep the limiteds. Pls give them, and only them i4

[@mspansy]

Im good with Kaala Bauna oh and Spatho she so cool.

[@karioshima]

yo haven't played this game since black dwarf i have poison team and centurion, toothfairy, and bkorn. who should i focus on getting

[@Faceless_time_traveler]

The powercreep is definitely worrisome, but the game isn't unplayable... I mean, I missed out on Tooth Fairy, skipped both Spathodea and 6, but I'm still keeping up with the story, hard mode, raid bosses, UTTU and limbo... If you think that's expected... Older gacha games like Kingdom Hearts Union Cross were almost unplayable outside the main story with the game getting powercrept almost once a month. So I'm worried, but so far the game is still friendly to launch 6star Arcanists so it might be okay....... Hopefully...

[@Doggieo]

My simple view on this is that the game is brand new. So i dont see why new unites can never be stronger than older ones. I dont even think we've come near the ceiling of potential power they can do with characters.

[@playamusa]

Power creep in a free PVE gacha game is largely just a skill issue problem. If you build the F2P units well enough you'll get through the content.

[@nguyentran7068]

I'm fine with new units getting stronger if Bluepoch can find a way to cycle old units power

[@tyrahnon]

Y’all are vastly overestimating this power creep. Yes Jiu and other units are far superior to others but the content is still clearance. People literally are still posting clears with three star teams. It’s about smart play and team composition more than anything. I’m literally still clearing limbo (the only actually “necessary” hard content to max out with a plant team of druvis, bkorn/an-an, and satsuki just fine. I literally don’t even have a mineral or beast team at all and I’ve yet to not clear a limbo fully. Some did require some creativity and careful play. But only the last stage which is 60 drops so who cares. Besides stage 6 it’s easy mode and even if you only clear that’s still 20 drops so you’re missing what 40? Drops a cycle? That’s not even a single pull lmao. So long as you’re building your resonances to level 10 and creating a good team, limbo is easily clearanle with units without portrays. UTTU is NOT required to clear everything, ESPECIALLY if you don’t like the skin you can clear the shop long before needing to touch the secret week. If you do want the skin then yeah you might not get everything but like most of the stuff in the store is just skipping some grinding mats for units, not drops or pulls. Prioritize what you get (only true time gates resources are crystal caskets, gluttony, resonance mats) Manes bulletin again really not that important to SSS. The best resources of it come from A rank which is doable with any built team. The Eddy tea resources from sss is nice cause it’s an extra 30 of the materials to get the gluttony from shop but… we literally don’t even have that many busted lightcone worth maxing. Only one I’d say is a guarantee to do so is luxurious leisure which if you’ve been playing since launch you already have enough gluttony to max it. Maybe balance please for 6 but other than that nothing really. Sure you can to make stuff easier but again NOT REQUIRED. So this entire fear of power creep is irrelevant until content actually becomes hard to clear. Which it hasn’t in either global or in CN. Come talk to us about power creep after people can’t clear stage 5 of limbo or something. And with how many casual content creators play I’ve seen if they aren’t clearing now it’s because they’re not reading mechanics properly, taking weak afflatus teams, or just not building resonance properly

[@waydnar]

nah...the enemy still on i3 lv 30 ..so if you max out old unit like going i3 lv 60 and maxed out the resonance go (go beyond 12-13+) old unit still great..sure the support one is kinda a must for now... like toothfairy and 6 since they are really flexible as a support

[@kenomenorias3200]

Powercreep is fine in a game without competitive multiplayer. It's inevitable in most games.

[@LastCloudiaPlayer]

gonna pull limited unit only after this

[@chaozfirez]

At least the game has no pvp elements, or the powercreep will have severe impact

[@lailachopperchops9290]

My mates Daughter Scarlet Grace does the voice acting for Vertin . x

[@PortraitsofWar]

Mm dropped r1999 back then, saw r1999 doing sponsored twitch streams and decide to see what's up. I guess I'd skip

[@Riverfall_]

It's really disappointing, if this was happening in other gacha game I would quit it... and if i was looking for a new gacha game to play and heard it was happening in it, I would say away from it. But as far as my actual enjoyment of the game goes. This powercreep doesn't actually affect me at all. It's the same story as the characters becoming twice as strong on high potentials. As a F2P I can only play the game casually and don't obsess over anything. Reverse1999 gameplay is certainly not what I'm playing this game for.

[@daniel336600]

but different mechanic are not powercreep and yes its stronger than standard banner characters i think most games do his and the only way to undo this is to make the enemy mechanics counter and that is bad for a game but its nice to have a nice mechanic that works for both types of players

[@ThirstySkeleton]

I would say that powecreep is fine if the units aren't limited and you can get them overtime through losing 50/50. Like currently I'm playing a game that is very stingy with pull currency while having up to two limited event banners at once and reverse is nowhere this greedy.They tested the waters with Jiu but Isolde,6,TF aren't limited but I'm not getting my hopes high for the anniversary patch after 1.8, They could pull Jiu 2.0 with character alter.

[@hunkynchunky]

i just need babel buff. i love her so much

[@Randomnesshopeless1086]

I have a random opinion i know it is not gonna work but what if they make all characters powercreep on same level then it is up to you if you not gonna pull this characters or not only based on if like this characters or not if you like this team mechanics or not😂 my opinion don’t make sense at all

[@catforfun7238]

If power not creep, how to make money

[@1_dani89]

No, they will not make money otherwise.

[@renorzeta]

they need to at least buff old character in any sources or forms.

[@cold-dreamer5736]

I think the issue is that they give so little pulls that if you want to get guaranteed character you have to skip some of them, if you could guarantee p0 every character people would not complain about powercreep and whales could spend money to get p5, I think this fact makes the Achiles tendine of the game. For long run it's a bad practice for short it's good let's see if they gonna continue with it or they gonna make a change

[@kenjiro6816]

They went with make it worse. CN got seperate Tooth Fairy and then Centurion rate up banners but Global just announced that it will be a new combined banner with a lower 35% rate for each (instead of 50%), the guaranteed can be either of them, and it has it's own pity that disappears when banner ends.

[@cold-dreamer5736]

@@MttkRaimon playing AFK arena as a F2P player and after 2 years managed to compete with some of the whales because the game is generous enough that after long time you can max with no problem any character you want, this game I'm a dolphine and even getting p1 character is a struggle, this game isn't generous enough. Most gachas has the same system, I'm complaining more about the system rather than the game cause all gachas has more or less the same system, I'm just dissapointed cause I thought this game gonna be different

[@snappieboi5026]

@@cold-dreamer5736Gacha games are different on how they run the game. Games like cookie run kingdom or afk arena give you a lot of pulls because getting characters is mostly the goals for these types of games. They probably get less effort on it because they keep pumping out characters.

[@gozluklubeethoven200yilonce]

In fact, the game is quite generous compared to other gacha games (I'm a genshin player...)

[@Jade_Hues]

Powercreep is not rly relevant yet. You can clear most games modes like limbo and uttu special week easily with most 6 star characters and even with full 5 star characters (heck theres challenge runs of limbo with 4 star + 3 star characters). Besides that SSS raids dont have the absolute best rewards (at least in global) yet and you are capable of clearing SSS in chinese servers even without the strongest team of JNZ 6 37 and tooth fairy. Powercreep to me will only really become a problem once certain characters are necessary to clear content, but in a game like this without pvp or even ranking globally it doesnt seem relevant to me

[@thefellcor]

Why would one ever wish for power creep to stop? Only dying games display this. Power creep essentially means progress both in content (power creep without new content is also a display of a dying game) and health of the developer. It's the main method for companies to make money and people to continue wanting to pay for the higher valued units. Games like another Eden is going south precisely by just introducing units without substantial content that need those units. Worst is, even with the new "power crept" units older contents feel like a puzzle than a do-able battle.

[@indrar604]

Ill just stop play this game

[@Moonlessx]

Never 😂

[@leonard9624]

Already stop playing the time after almost only 2 weeks of playing.

[@jorgerhardt4735]

Its always about money. And its not enough to earn good money, no it have to be an insane amount of money. There are a lot great full price games on the PC, so no need to get frustrated with these mobile gacha games. I play as long as the game is fun and stop the moment their greet destroy that.

[@eileen88]

First!