Will Zimbabwe ever have justice under Mugabe's party? | DW English

After decades in power, Robert Mugabe has been forced to surrender the presidency, but his party remains firmly in charge. Given its record of economic incompetence and disregard for human rights, don't the people of Zimbabwe deserve better than ZANU-PF? Tim Sebastian meets the ruling ZANU-PF party's UK chairman, Nick Mangwana.
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[@ashwhite6709]

The journalist could see that Nick is lying with a straight face .Nick is an embarrassment

[@hermanpieters7242]

Poor state official, he was shredded to pieces. I am glad I wasn't in a position to defend the kak Mugabe caused in front of the whole world.

[@sara-loumparadzi9501]

Herman Pieters for goodness sakes, he should have prepared for Tim. Weak! Embarrassing!

[@lewispatricktembo7378]

Please do a follow up interview. You’ll be astonished at the events which have unfolded !!

[@tngfilms]

Working for Zanu PF is such a difficult job

[@Enoch940]

Zanu PF are all corrupt making their citizens suffer and then blame colonization. 🙄 rubbish peoples

[@priscillamatika3668]

We as Zimbabweans dont deserve this kind of government, we deserve better. I think we need a follow up to this interview now ,we want to hear what this goon will say now

[@sachimu]

Amen, amen!

[@jonassoviecki6441]

You mean the white British one yes?

[@nyati_imhenyu]

You are on point Priscilla…

[@innocentcharumbira180]

Tim bring this guy again. Zanu PF is continuing killing us there

[@lorrbee7104]

Mr tom can we have another episode 2 with Nick mangwana he is available right now for a second interview. Just a phone call he will gladly accept you . We want to hear him now 2 years after coup what he has to say .

[@carrinsimbarasheshoniwa7096]

Tim, please may u interview Nick again. We want part 2

[@inkrdb87]

35% of the interview is Nick Mangwanga achikakama.

[@valentinemkhululincube3433]

Achingoti its not true🤣🤣

[@ashwhite6709]

Kuita se acha faint

[@sachimu]

I thought he was going to pass out because he was also struggling to breathe!

[@drew5834]

Ian Smith had sanctions =strong economy De Clerk had sanctions =strong economy ZanuPF what's your excuse?

[@user-nf9xc7ww7m]

Ian smith: "miss me yet?" 😋

[@NicholasNyaumwe]

@@user-nf9xc7ww7m no

[@MrNhekairo]

U need to do a follow up interview on this

[@iandurie8580]

He will still run the country for the benefit of Zanu-PF cadres, using the country's mineral wealth, and agriculture for their enrichment.

[@madanonemustaf185]

Zanupf is giving the Mugabe full protection cause they're the same people they like their leader what they did they didn't remove Mugabe for the benefit of Zimbabweans citizens bud for them selfs hey wake up Zimbabweans don't sleep grace did a great job for Mugabe's downfall if it wasn't for grace oooor xem mark my words Zimbabweans you will suffer and suffer if you don't change that Mugabe's Party l tell cause they're really serious thugs

[@gidzzahc9747]

Mr Michel Friedman you are the best Interviewer ever. U make thieves arrest themselves with their own words. the guy is stammering..

[@denzelnyangombe4049]

Its now time for a follow up interview

[@trevorcypha5759]

We need a follow up interview

[@spoonnz]

We need a follow-up interview.

[@dibzmrasta9238]

This guy should be called Nick Nezuro

[@camilomasimba9975]

Iwe Mangwana uriduzvi iwe.

[@01AMAZINGGRACE]

Oh my God .

[@squashbeatszw]

Damn this was difficult to watch.

[@dumisanichibanda1195]

Which Zimbabweans are happy ?

[@OutsizeWealth]

"We uphold the constitution" Nicky Mangwana

[@sachimu]

You mean Nicky Mawana! 🤣🤣🤣

[@carringtonndhlovu6145]

a polygraph and deception detection would have made this interview very short

[@Adonai71]

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk very true

[@victormoyo]

Some one please get him some water he needs a drink poor nick

[@spiritualchogugudza2631]

There is a difference between making mistakes and downright intentional butchery of human beings

[@gustavorubinoernesto7911]

Its a shame to see that he actually believes in his own lies

[@polpulle]

Tim...simply the best

[@taps7473]

Christian Tim racist as usual... can he justify the 300k Iraqis killed by his country and NATO, the selling of weapons to countries like Saudi Arabia which have caused suffering in places like Yemen.

[@camilomasimba9975]

He is right to call you and people you are representing from your party as thugs.

[@neliamutamera2094]

We are not happy don't lie

[@fitzgeraldmasawi8994]

16 varsities,no jobs.hospitals but no medication,no doctors,no nurses,yu are a shame.why is it that yo family stays out of zim;?

[@user-md3xh4ji2w]

Bitter truth from Tim. Army intervened to save zanu pf not the pples democracy

[@sachimu]

And I for one was fooled.

[@gidzzahc9747]

things happened, mistakes hahah Michel, you are just brilliant. thank you. for showing professional ethic lines on these thugs..

[@Honeybee897]

A ZANU official soliciting for a Government Post in the current Government.

[@vincentgengezha4162]

Bring the thug again he must tell us about his boko hurum government ZANU PF

[@trustnhengu6574]

Mistakes?? 20000 people and he says mistakes??

[@gladyssannahmthombeni6501]

Zanu PF is a shame u will be surprised people who are members like Advocate Simba being proud to be Zanu PF in Sundton not in Harare

[@gazaman7832]

You did justice to those crooks my man... Respect

[@ngonikamba]

Zim is in a worse off position today. And the first 2 minutes of the interview mirrors current events

[@adriaanloots7777]

THE SMILE ON THE FACE TELS IT ALL....GUILTY

[@darlingtonmachingauta6257]

We wl suffer non wth thz kind pple

[@sourgrapes2443]

But he was right when he said they needed to buy Mugabe's silence bc he could have taken a lot of them down with him

[@BrytTrades]

This was embarrassing

[@ronitad2123]

No, not possible. Those are all dictators

[@munyazhawu4317]

The campaign tool was "New Republic...."

[@trustnhengu6574]

But then ka..... why do men lie??

[@teddan8036]

Nick Mangwana kuda hako mari but chokwadi chiripo ngechekuti uri dofo chairo rekupedzisira!!

[@drew5834]

So making mistakes for 30years

[@sarahnyashwasithole2115]

#ZimbabweanLivesMatter Restore Zimbabwe's legacy. Zanu pf has failed to listen and solve our cries, violated our rights

[@gloriakapfu]

how old was this guy when this happened

[@stanfordmadimutsa8884]

Todd where are you #ZimbabweanLivesMatters

[@nichodemusnyabasa4310]

Whaaal we needs journalists like e white guy

[@Jayne696]

A message to Nick Mangwana and Mugabe’s conquerors, you did not remove him for the sake of the nation. You did it for your selfish ends as he was no longer serving purpose, too sleepy and not discussing who would take over from him. If you had the nation at heart, why did the army not descend on him when the land was grabbed and votes stolen in the last 37 years. Why were the army intimidating people all these years if they were serving the nation’s interests? In a democracy, Munangagwa should not have taken office, considering atrocities in Matabeleland. We will never forget his ruthlessness then. Mangwana, you must bury your head in shame. Zimbabwe is in tatters because of ZANU PF. Where is the 15 billion dollars from the diamonds? You say mistakes were made, and if that is so, everyone must step down so the young can rule. No one above 55 years old should ever be allowed to run that country ever again. ZANU PF has failed to run the country. At the next election, can they all retire please. That little nation has a lot of young people who can run it well without you and the army telling us that we need liberation war background. Is it our fault that we were young or not even born when war was fought. Step aside and allow the nation to flourish. NO ONE is bigger than Zimbabwe, including those that think it is their right to rule. In Shone we say, “Ushe madzoro hunoravanwa” You do not hold onto power as if you own the country. How about all these old men and women watching from the sidelines and see how the young do it?

[@princemtandwachimanzi7088]

#ZimbabweanLivesMatter

[@tatendakwaramba7130]

But Zanu PF what is wrong with you, why cant you go

[@yassinali.]

Zimbabwe must be called Zanu-pf because Zanu-pf liberated Zim for themselves.

[@gladyssannahmthombeni6501]

The country is already destabilize

[@angie6085]

As a Zimbabwean I am ashamed of this man Mangwana sitting there in his nice suit defending the worst leaders and a party ZANU PF that has made its own people suffer. A culture of violence is not party of Zimbabwean people this man nxahhh

[@tafadzwasibanda8060]

Mangwana was toasted here. kkkk....

[@s1lverf0xx58]

Ndakambozvitaura ini ma Nurse anonetsa

[@tapsluamufakose2550]

😂😂😂😂

[@munyazhawu4317]

Shame

[@Adonai71]

The hard truth that shows how zanupf will rule with an iron fist but they forget God is above and he will deal with injustice accordingly 😉

[@thegeorgemsnog5738]

Now 3 years down the lane, things are worse than where Mugabe left the country. What has happened to that Chombo guy, still free and enjoying. Zanu PF is useless

[@roselynmakaza1363]

Zimbabweans deserve better than this.

[@aubreylacoste9333]

The new President is no different to the old one 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

[@colletahchitsike4198]

Wish this is shown to Zimbabweans world over. ZANU PF is Thuggish

[@cf8407]

Why is this mangwana guy a British citizen? I saw a petition against it on change.org

[@ashwhite6709]

I was shocked as well.Im even surprised Zanu Pf have a UK office

[@cf8407]

ASH WHITE his family enjoys the free UK society whilst he speaks for a repressive government. I don’t get how that can be ok

[@ruumatt6239]

He's lying we're not happy

[@lylemukwekwe4923]

Nicho Nicho what Zimbabweans do you speak for vana vako havasi maZimbabweans

[@gracenyoni9195]

Nick. Ndebeles were murdered plz just accept.

[@kv.muhenje]

What is this man was saying if now things in Zimbabwe turns upside human violation ,bring him bc to th interview

[@sigidiilembe2114]

Zimbabwe is still very far from developing. If the president spokesperson can think like this. What's worse for me is the Arrogance of the ruling is the end of Zimbabwe. One day a new generation needs to rise and stop hiding in foreign countries

[@user-md3xh4ji2w]

Zanu representatives always run out ideas

[@mgciniwata5115]

This is laughable

[@muswere]

As much as I didn't like some of Mr Manaka's comments,How did we get our justice from the colonization by the British

[@Jayne696]

muswere What justice are you talking about hanzvadzi? Everything was blamed on the white men of Britain and USA, do you know why? To divert everyone's attention from mismanagement of the economy, the plunder and pilf and human rights abuses. Open your eyes. Even after the land grab and the shops were empty, the British and Americans were blamed for it. You just wonder how an economy could feed all its people and other nations could fall dramatically like that!

[@mnnh3317]

Mugabe could have resigned in 1980. He would would be feted today as a great leader and somebody who brought people together. Statues abound of him the world over. He could have resigned after 1 term, he would still be remembered affectionately and with great fondness, even with Gukurahundi. But he hung needlessly on for so long he will be remembered for rampant corruption, brutal repression of dissent ,economic catastrophe, cholera, hyperinflation , 90% unemployment and 15 billion dollars of missing diamond revenues! He wrote his own obituary As far as freedom from colonization goes, Chitepo and Nkomo both did far more than Mugabe. But the true heroes are those who lost their lives before 1980 , not those lapping up all the glory for the last 37 years.

[@lindiwelindiwe347]

this murungu is harmaring this mangwana if it was in zimbabwe they could find him dead already in his house. Zanupf thugs kills

[@LadiesOfExcellence]

Permsec Nick Mnangagwa is on point!

[@priscillamatika3668]

What point?

[@spiritualchogugudza2631]

9 prime judges in the constitutional court who are all Zanu pf dogs🙁

[@gloriakapfu]

court in zim

[@balmofgilead8062]

Nick, Nyara kani...just stop.

[@freddygerenzi3807]

Sam mangwana be real. Who are ruling human beings or animals. U are just power hungry

[@ntatesebata]

Stammering through out the interview

[@darthpc4922]

dziri kuitirei hasha

[@spiwemabge2769]

University with unemployed graduates,get a grip mangwana,one university with good employment is worth than 16 universities graduates worth of vendors.

[@carrinsimbarasheshoniwa7096]

Which hospitals were built?

[@cliffguthrie9886]

Well spoken Mr Mangwana Zimbabwe needs to move forward and it will happen

[@lisancube3177]

is it happening 🙄

[@tapsluamufakose2550]

His crazy pit bull face

[@jacob3007]

Nick

[@iro8850]

Zimbabweans they dont choose Zanu pf Mr Nick it's justice luke malaba we are tired of u guys

[@cyberlads28]

Nick is liar thats his talent😂

[@aubreylacoste9333]

Forget about democracy 😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌

[@aubreylacoste9333]

Thrashing democracy for the past 35 years 😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌

[@mugabemustgonowthetimeisno5669]

Nick BS as usual!!!

[@lawshonhiwa1389]

Iyi ndomboko chaiyo

[@trustnhengu6574]

Zimbabweans are not happy, iam not happy.

[@lizparadza8311]

Its really sad that the young generation is being used by old madhala in this manner. Where are you going to go Nick after the Mnangagwa era coz its about to end anyway. What about your family? How can you choose to build a legacy which is so embarassing and evil for yourself and your kids because of money.

[@sokomrewa3413]

Zim constitution is one of the WORST in the world as opposed to what that Mangwana guy is saying.

[@Moyopheus]

What a clown!! 😂😂😂😂( Apologies to real clowns out there).

[@infophoenixcomz]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@01AMAZINGGRACE]

Mashura nezviratidzo chaiwo.

[@tapsluamufakose2550]

Nick face off pit bull face 👹

[@glmstar]

We Zimbabweans DO NOT WANT MUGABE prosecuted because we are caution not to discourage Pres Munangagwa(the one who faces the (challenges of) rowboat) from leaving office when his time is due.

[@glmstar]

Mu-nanga-Gwa (one who faces the boat('s challenges)) - I added this for foreigners to kno the meaning of these names. Ma-Ngwana - means in the next day

[@justicematinha3208]

Who is "WE"? I am Zimbabwean and I want him prosecuted.

[@glmstar]

Ya, but you may be politically naive or talking from the overseas /diaspora point of view. Mature as we are, we do not want to set presidency for revenge, which encourages presidents to remain or fight to die in power because fear prosecution. We did not do it to Ian Smith and its unwise to do it to Mugabe again.

[@justicematinha3208]

I am speaking from the point of view of a local Zimbabwean who was force-marched to profess illiteracy at a polling station in order to vote for Zanu pf after my house had been burnt in 2008. How come you paint all of us with the same brush? I could be naive but I lost a close friend simply because he was an opposition agent in 2008 election. If you are living the good life and Mugabe gave you everything then stop speaking on our behalf.

[@glmstar]

Thanks for the reply. Though I agree with you in terms of ZANU PF using hard handedness at times during election time(this I blame on Ian Smith though, who introduced these hash tactics in Rhodesia which was otherwise less cruel), ... I differ with you on the overview and long term solution . That's why I have said you are either in diaspora or naive. The thing is, you would not find a political solution to the situation you described above through retribution. If you follow that path you create hate and desire to revenge that never ends. On the other hand the ones in power would cling to it knowing that after they retire retribution would be coming their way. Guess you get me right. The last sentence in your comment obscures your otherwise good argument. I am neither of those things. Show less REPLY

[@kv.muhenje]

Episode two loading good at lying smart journalist can come to Namibia and you'll hear funny stuff