BP Ratio Test. Not As Important As We Thought.

[@Riyame]

One day I have a feeling that chrono is going to end up like its peers on Kentucky Ballistics.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

That day is fast approaching

[@joeyhardin1288]

I was thinking the same thing?!?!

[@1958piwo]

Even though no earth shattering news, still valuable information. Many a person contemplates the “if’s”, so many thanks for documenting them

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@InsanoBinLooney]

@@Everythingblackpowder No, thank you, seriously.

[@kcstott]

Coffee out the nose Jake at that last bit of advice about make a video that doesn’t suck😂. But seriously thank you for all the testing and giving freely of your data and method. There are few people that can really put forth a no bullshit test and publish the results. You are to muzzle loaders what Kenny Wasserberger is to Blackpowder cartridge rifles. Thank you.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@davisrs1]

🤣

[@garand4674]

Between you and your brother, you're the MythBusters, Bill Nye, and Albert Einstein of Antique Muzzleloading Propellant. You've compiled more data and testing than anyone else on the subject. 🙌

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@Spubaru4U]

Thanks it’s been a long haul but we’ve made some serious progress😅

[@garand4674]

@@Spubaru4U someone has to keep Jake in line! Keep up the good work!

[@garand4674]

@@Everythingblackpowder you're welcome!

[@Thousand_yard_King]

If everyone here would give him a dollar, he could afford a Garmin.. but nooooooo...

[@1958piwo]

@@Thousand_yard_King I heard about these “Go Fund Me” deals… how’s that work?

[@dylanvisitacion8618]

Where do I send my contribution?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

If it’s that important to you, use the super thanks

[@keithmoore5306]

if that's a Caldwell like i have Jake might just have to change the battery!!! why everyone is so damn queer for radar is beyond me!!

[@Saltpetere]

@@keithmoore5306 I have the same chronograph, I put 56 rounds through it today. Got a number every time. Two were suspiciously off, but it never totally failed.

[@TheZombieSaints]

I love the banter between you and your cameraman, it's so natural and off the cuff, it's refreshing and also very funny. Plus all these experiments you're doing is so interesting. So glad I found this channel. Thanks for the hard work 👍👍

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@larryward1082]

I make my own black powder the formula is the same as has been for a long time except I do use the would I use it comes from our ranch and it's Willow and it seems to work quite well and I'm satisfied

[@larryward1082]

I'm going to make some out of cottonwood and we'll see what happens there that will be the only change I do will be in place of Willow it's going to be cottonwood

[@danliberty734]

Is it enough of a difference to make a difference? You be the judge. - Paul Harrell

[@ronjones1414]

Stoichiometric ratios promote a more thorough combustion, it does not surprise me that it is clean burning.

[@TheZombieSaints]

Yeah, it's the perfect amount of fuel and oxidiser so everything should burn up completely. So in theory there shouldn't be much of anything left..in theory

[@joearledge]

any of you guys have access to spectroscopy equipment?

[@Saltpetere]

@@joearledge He doesn't even have a chronograph that works

[@Saltpetere]

@@TheZombieSaints Black Powder existed for centuries before Chemistry could actually calculate what the blend should actually be. They would try something different and it might work a little better, so they changed how they made it. The original "Serpentine" powder was not only dust and not granules but had way too little oxidizer, and that was a very impure crudely made compound. The 15-3-2 mix, usually called 75-15-10, is very close to ideal, but the 77-13-8 mixture should have the right amount of every chemical present to burn completely, but the charcoal is still a variable. From what I have learned here and the minor in Chemistry I got 44 years ago the best formula would seem to be (1), 77-13-8, (2) Charcoal made from TP, (3) three full days of mill time, and (4) proper compression & granulation.

[@joearledge]

@@Saltpetere WTF does his chrono errors have to do with spectroscopy?? Or, do you have no idea what spectroscopy is???

[@isaaco5679]

Just waiting for the video where a stray bullet "accidentally" smokes the chrono!

[@Friedbrain11]

Cleaner the better for the firearm.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Agreed

[@claydallen5308]

Need a garmin and a screwdriver sponsor. 😂

[@Everythingblackpowder]

😂

[@andyd2960]

Damn your videos are perfect timing. About half way through its time to flip my pork chops.

[@larryward1082]

I love this channel I watched it for a long time and I'm telling you what Jake does a lot of work he puts a lot of work into this he does very good research top dog on making black black gunpowder

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@1boortzfan]

Jake, you're the best. Always keeping an open eye towards improving. A different mixture just might be the answer science has been looking for. I wonder what would happen if you were to try this new powder in your old historic cartridges you've tried before.

[@Tomwatt193]

Wow you guys are doing some serious science thank you!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@Rigzly23]

Im studying for a boiler test and JUST learned the term "stoichionetric" before watching this video while taking a break. I dont know why, but I found this hilarious.

[@davefellhoelter1343]

I did boilers too, refineries, foundries, presses, passivation, and pigging, hydraulics, with others, my best buddy is a Chem engineer and mech engineers who knows how to get er done, not just on paper. My go to "I Know" a guy. I did it yesterday as I think a bit of diesel or kerosine added at the end will aid in KNO3 moisture hydrophilia and maybe? a bit of a F.O.B. effect, or "Dieseling" in the ignition train?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Glad to hear it

[@exothermal.sprocket]

As a small engine motor head, the term "stoichiometric" comes natural. 14.7 parts atmosphere to 1 part gasoline for ideal combustion.

[@davefellhoelter1343]

@@exothermal.sprocket Exothermic welder here! keep your thermite dry! 14.7:01 needs PSI too as "I recall" I'm working on a antique muzzle loading propelant now using kerosene or diesel for the "Diesel Affect" or F.O.B? in my ignition train, and to hopefullly help with KNO3's hydrophilic desires? k

[@bigcatauna]

I have my unlimited

[@Almost_Made_It]

My high school chemistry teacher told us that stoichiometry was the study of stoichies. Funny old man.

[@BuckR-lz9rf]

I'm with you on clean burning, on small cal. It helps a lot. I got a 32 cal.

[@joeyhardin1288]

Seriously though, that rifle has some authority at final destination!

[@rutrutbella600]

Ty Jake that is interesting i appreciate all your hard work

[@jacobmarley4907]

Another great video as usual. I like it when things occasionally mess up because it shows us that none of us is perfect, and I can’t remember how many times I’ve measured the wrong amount of black powder (usually under measured). Looking forward to more great videos.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@joearledge]

You should talk to your Chem friend about doing spectroscopy on different charcoals/ woods. Or if you make an announcement, any rock star science college student looking for a project could do it. If I still had access to the equipment, I would. Spectroscopy basically analyzes individual atoms/molecules in a substance, and lets you know what's in the substance and how much of it is in there. This might allow you to ID what specifically in the wood/ charcoal makes it fast or clean. This info would then allow you to make predictions about how a certain wood will preform, before you try it.

[@stevetuttle5472]

Another great video that didn’t suck, except for the chronograph😅! I think all of us that shoot a lot of bp are definitely interested in cleaner burning powder. We would much rather shoot than clean!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Fair enough

[@xzkt]

I am so glad I found your videos. It has really opened my eyes to how minute changes can affect powder performance. It makes me want to try and make my own quality powder. I have a lot to learn but I think I have found the place to get the info I need. Thanks so much for sharing your findings. Phil

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@richarddean3154]

Fascinating video. One would think that the ratio would have a profound effect on the propellant's velocity and cleanliness. I wonder if either of the three common ingredients could be replaced with a better substitute, while still remaining safe. Thank you for the excellent content.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@harrypeterson9287]

Perhaps you can try some sulfur substitutes for future experiments. Vitamin C has about identical fuel content to sulfur by weight and supposedly has somewhat of a sensitizing/catalyzing effect and the mixture burns quickly. It's used in the pyrotechnics industry and is often called "golden powder".

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Really?

[@harrypeterson9287]

@@Everythingblackpowder Actual golden powder has no carbon, just nitrate and ascorbic acid. From what I recall, the kind where they replace sulfur with vitamin C is commonly used for lift charges at firework shows in Japan to cut down on noxious gasses. It's a slightly hygroscopic but supposedly little more powerful with a little less soot.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Fascinating stuff.

[@kirbybranham8759]

@@harrypeterson9287 where can you find golden powder?

[@KK-xz4rk]

@@Everythingblackpowder Sulfur in bp is only needed to lower the mixture ignition temperature. Without sulfur bp has same power IF it ignites. Without sulfur you cannot light bp reliably and with spark only, you need hotter temperature or more pressure initially. Sulfur makes mixture just more user friendly so to speak.

[@markreece2614]

I absolutely love you content and hope you put out more since 72 hours of ball milling makes so much difference. An now that you are tweaking the mix is fucking awesome. And yes someone should reach out to you with a fucking nice chronograph just so you can tell us how fucking good it is!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@victorjubinville5720]

Despite any gaffs I enjoy your videos, the gaffs lighten it up😂

[@Everythingblackpowder]

It happens

[@twentyfifthdui4717]

And there were 2 colors of smoke from one shot, which I've never seen before.

[@davisrs1]

I suspect the powder is burning too slowly and combustion is continuing after the bullet has left the barrel.

[@papiken1]

Nothing wrong here, happens all the time.

[@SmogFighter]

Every time I hear that guitar riff in the background I keep expecting to hear “Shake Hands With Danger “

[@davisrs1]

Thanks for your work and comedy!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you very much

[@georgekostaras]

Honestly you're one of my favorite amateur scientists

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@genebishop1405]

Good job Jake!! Always interesting and fun to watch. Good to see you screw things up, I don't feel as bad now !! Thanks again for another excellent video!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@clairecelestin8437]

Great stuff! Thanks for the content.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

@@clairecelestin8437 thank you!

[@louisianagray8618]

Well it does look like it'd be a good ratio for clean powder and as long as you're still getting your pressures sounds like a way to try

[@Everythingblackpowder]

It definitely is just as powerful as the other 72 hour bamboo

[@louisianagray8618]

@@Everythingblackpowder I will have to try because that looks really good for reloading

[@chasebh89]

I think for the same results it would be better to go with the stoichiometric blend. On paper at least, cleaner burning powder and less sulfuric residue should mean longer gun life and if you're not taking a performance hit then hey why not

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Fair enough

[@sandroventania782]

Even if the stoichiometry is perfect, the result of the combustion of black powder will always leave something close to 50% residue. Fortunately, most of it comes out of the barrel in the form of smoke. Adding the same amount of cornmeal to the black powder not only seals the ball better, but also cleans the barrel.

[@joearledge]

Think of stoichiometric as having the exact number of parts to assemble a piece of furniture from Walmart, so that you don't come up short or have anything left over, just your new coffee table, nothing more, nothing less. The "parts" are atoms in the chem reaction, and the "table" is the chem reaction itself(burning powder in this application). If you don't have enough of 1 part, you might still be able to make a table but it's going to be lacking something(strength, a shelf, a drawer handle, ect...). In this application, you can make the powder, but it's lacking in some way. If you have too many of 1 part, you chuck those in the spare parts bucket. In this context, the "spare parts bucket" is your barrel, so left over parts = extra fouling. Not a perfect analogy, but hopefully it helps someone understand the concept a little better.

[@schinderiapraemeturus6239]

Excellent explanation of stoichiometric ratio

[@joearledge]

@@schinderiapraemeturus6239 Thanks

[@josephcormier5974]

Excellent video sir very enjoyable and informative thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother

[@Everythingblackpowder]

You bet

[@Munky332]

You should do a compendium of lessons learned in a PDF

[@dougzack4565]

Might be fun to test that formulation with a duplex load to try and make "The cleanest burning Blackpowder."

[@ditzydoo4378]

it appears that by "Lowering" the sulfur content, you've "Raised" the frequency a chronograph will "Troll" you. Cottonelle, when you want that "Clean Feeling" on the bum of your gun. ^~^

[@Everythingblackpowder]

😂

[@davisrs1]

🤣

[@ditzydoo4378]

@@Everythingblackpowder ^~^ I thought you'd like that.

[@earlwheelock7844]

Mmmmmmmmm I will just leave the vidios that DONT suck strictly up to YOU!!! GREAT VIDIO AS USUAL!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌🙈🙉🙊!!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@PwntifexMaximus]

Amateur chemist here. The reason it doesn't matter as much as you think is because black powder burns carbon in incomplete combustion. Why is this important? Because carbon can combust both to CO (monoxide) and CO2 (dioxide), and the monoxide has a greater energy-content per bond than the dioxide has. If you overdose the carbon you get more monoxide and if you underdose you get more dioxide. The extra energy per bond and reduced oxygen-demand compensates for the incomplete combustion. Up to a point.

[@kbjerke]

Interesting! Thanks!

[@carlericvonkleistiii2188]

Which combustion preference would leave more residue? It appears from the video that the load tested today (low sulfur) was significantly cleaner. Would you expect this result?

[@jacobackley502]

@@carlericvonkleistiii2188 lower sulfur would be cleaner, since sulfate solid mass is typically the “dirt.” The gaseous carbon compounds don’t leave residue

[@JFSmith-nb8hf]

No suckyness, and though I have no plans to make my own damn video, if I ever do, I will do my damnedest to not have it suck😆

[@carlericvonkleistiii2188]

@@jacobackley502 Thanks! It's reassuring when theory and practice agree!

[@ivymike2691]

Cleaner makes sense for stoichiometric. The stoichiometric ratio means there won't be "excess" of anything that is partially burned so less fouling building up.

[@_muody]

Fun fact about stoichiometric ratios is that they are perfect in theory, but not necessarily in practice. For example, if I remember correctly, most violent reaction when burning hydrogen in oxygen can be achieved with ratios closer to 3:1, than stoichiometric 2:1.

[@davisrs1]

The standard 75:15:10 is also stoic, but I suggested this to Jake because he uses 77%! Turns out to produce more moles of gas, but more slowly.

[@nevisstkitts8264]

Excellent video!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@kevinmarrett9532]

I would really like to see a series of Elmer Keith style load experiments to see just how powerful of a load can you shoot out of some of the modern single action army clones.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

That’s what happened to that Remington on the shelf

[@peterm.souzajr.2112]

Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwiches as a carbon source!

[@davefellhoelter1343]

I did nuts and shells, Junk Powder, sorry. About the same as Kingsford brickettes. Bread was not as bad, no jelly. But I did tortes poo, with a batch of dog doo

[@ZacharyBurgard]

O god no

[@TheZombieSaints]

Oh God! 😂

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Sponsored by Mission tortillas and La Preferida refried beans.

[@jdoerr779]

Gonna have to mill that powder for a year and a half lol

[@user-kh7oi9id1h]

The Earliest European Recipes for “Powder for Guns” (1336 and 1338-c. 1350) Clifford J. Rogers and Fabrizio Ansani

[@regchapman3683]

Nice work Jake I love yourBanter and no nonsense approach we all make mistake mate , you prove that your human lol lets get a look at your cameraman see what he looks like they are unsung heroes 😂

[@victortuten4399]

Hmm, not an appreciable speed difference but cleaner burning, at least with bamboo. It would be interesting to see if it affects other propellants differently. If charcoal makes that big of a difference I would imagine that sulfur will make a difference, even if it IS just a cleaner burn.

[@recoilrob324]

I love 'The Holy Black' and all the testing is much appreciated. Hey...I just noticed that the Remington New Army on the shelf behind has the cylinder blown up. Is this detailed in another video somewhere? I hate to see guns getting destroyed...but love to see guns getting destroyed.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Yes it’s destroyed entirely. We were testing smokeless powder in it.

[@recoilrob324]

@@Everythingblackpowder Ah...I figured as much but wanted to make sure. Goes to prove that you CAN use smokeless in black powder guns...and you CAN blow them up doing it. Thanks for the answer!!

[@SavageMcBeastdog]

I have the same Pro Competition chronograph. I like it so much I tested a full cylinder Walker charge into it and now thank you Garmin, I love your product.

[@scottsammons7747]

Good news is this stuff remarkably clean. (And incredibly consistent)

[@rksg2003]

I love this channel. I don’t even own a black powder tool and I watch every (@#&&) video for some reason. I even looked on marketplace for a treadmill. What the?

[@krockpotbroccoli65]

Bro your doing it out of order. What you do is: first you buy a bunch of black powder firearms. Then you get fed up with how expensive black powder is and how difficult it is to find. THEN you start thinking about making the stuff.

[@heretic134]

Love the videos and clean burning powder is definitely on my list of things that I would be looking for

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

A stoycheometric burn is “the most efficient FULL burning of fuel” On combustion engines like gas and diesel, we shoot for this but, a few percent more fuel, which provides a clean but not too hot of a burn. The fuel acts as a coolant. A oxygen rich engine burns hot, like a oxy torch. We see this “slightly rich” Burn in light brown hazy exhaust. In black powder, I have no clue, but you definately can tweak the ratios to get a oxygen rich burn or a fuel rich burn. The oxygen rich burn might provide better cleanliness but the lack of fuel might reduce velocity. My guess and 2c before the video

[@ricktaylor5744]

Thank you Jake.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@stevenmike1878]

a second crono would help the tests so the dirty patch analysis will be more consistent , put the new one in front of the old one or vice versa so the bullet will go thru both cronos, so if one fails then the other chrono will hopefully pick it up.

[@AS40143]

a radar is even better

[@WannabeWoodsman]

Boys, I'm taking up a collection on behalf of our friends here so we can get him a Garmin

[@blackriflex39]

i use those 4 in 1 keychain screw drivers i do fitthem to the screws and then fitr a open spot to the cock screw screw works great... great video as always !

[@florianwoehr3360]

Have you ever tried to use maxibal bullet's and grease them with waterbased face cream like nivea ect.? A guy told me that and allowed me to shoot all of his loads that he had at the range. Not shure today if we cleaned the barrel one time at the range. But we made over 30 shots , maybe 50 with that rifle and he said , it will be no Problem to clean that at home.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I have not

[@kevin_6217]

Very Interesting. I would love to see a test like this again with 79-15-6.

[@davisrs1]

Excess oxidizer and further reduced catalyst likely won't get you anywhere!

[@stillworking7109]

Hi Jake. Been parallelling you where I live for quite while with antique propellant with similar results to you. Charcoal sources are different but getting similar results with what you have. One thing I tried that you may be interested in is that we press pucks without adding water at all. I use a press with a pressure gauge and press to 10 tonne metric until gauge shows no drop at all. We get densities from 1.7 to 1.9 Gr/CC. Pucks are hard as steel and do take some breaking up. Then use identical method for grinding pucks as you do. Clean and fast burning. I have a 44-40 as well and 40gr just fills case to neck. Yet to shoot it in this rifle but I have a long range target rifle and it is accurate out to over 500 yards with this powder. We have just enough humidity in the air to ensure pucks hold together well. I use virtually identical piston and die that you do. Just try a puck or two with no added water and you may be surprised.

[@anthonyberger225]

Great video 👍

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@GenderSkins]

Hey Jake, I cannot confirm what I am about to say, however, you are supposed to be able to obtain 1,000FPS of velocity out of an 1851/1861 Navy .36 caliber at 25 grains of 3FG powder. Now as I understand that is with a .357 round ball, and I think either the 5inch or 7.5inch barrel not sure which barrel it was exactly with the info I found. Now I stumbled across that bit of information while trying to compare the pressure curve of a .380 acp to that of the .36 caliber, for an 1862 Pocket Navy with a .380 acp conversion cylinder. Now I have shot 30 and 35 grains out of my 1860 Army .44, so that 970 maybe accurate if you are using a .44 caliber revolver.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I can confirm that an 1860 army with a full chamber of 3f Swiss and a round ball will run 1050fps on average. I haven’t tested any 36 cal guns in a long time.

[@pavelavramov9010]

practically the same. good answer, thank you!

[@GregClay-hr1qn]

As one of my favorite flintlocks is a .32, the cleaner burning the better. How great would it be to shoot 5 or more shots without swabbing. I for one am really glad to see you using longer mill time. One of the books I have states that mill time directly relates to energy levels. As usual, great video!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@jackcrockett538]

I too want clean burning powder. Will try the stoichiometry formula. For your information I think ground coffee bean charcoal is just as clean as Bamboo charcoal. Shoots powerful too. I shoot a 50 caliber rifle so can't compare your velocities to mine which are lower.

[@danliberty734]

It explains why @kentuckyballistics feeds his chronos to the Chip-O-Matic 5000.

[@keithmoore5306]

hey Jake Allen makes a descent chrony!! that might be the battery i've got a Caldwell that does that when the battery gets weak!! maybe a dab of threadlocker on the flint dog screw?if it's just the flint slipping out a thin piece of leather helps there!!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

lol that was a new battery and that’s with a piece of leather…

[@keithmoore5306]

@@Everythingblackpowder oh well like i said a dab of threadlocker and Allen makes a good chrony!!

[@karsonbranham3900]

very interesting results, loce the twist at the end cap!!

[@Gallowglasser]

I believe during the opium wars the British thought the Chinse gunpowder was terrible, partly beacuse they didn't corn it properly but also because they thought it had to much potassium nitrate and that caused it to absorb moisture to easily and become less effective.

[@kirkethridge2500]

cleaner makes sense assuming the chemical reaction is complete.. your formula leaves more potassium, carbon and sulfur behind because it don't oxidize (burn) per the chart.. Thanks for showing this as my college chemistry was so long ago, i couldn't remember any of that!!

[@cameronnerdin4910]

You crack me up!! Well at least it is clean. LOL

[@timturner7609]

Be advised deviations of the ratio can cause drastic swings in detonation temperature and detonation velocity. Some of the higher temperature ratios can be really hard on the barrel life

[@comedyradijs1069]

Good video man, always enjoy these video's. Was also wondering, what if you you would mill the toiletpaper powder for 72 Hours, as i remember that stuff was in the 1800's with like 24 hours of mill time.

[@georgegonzalez-rivas3787]

A long time ago when I was writing an article about the Battle of Lepanto between the Ottomans and the combined Cristian fleet -- I focused heavily on the 6 heavily-cannoned Venetian Galleases that forced the Ottoman ships into narrow channels to avoid their cannon-fire which was far in excess of their own. (That was background, sorry). I read some 'very very old' books from the original sources talking about their powder formula in those days which was 75/12.5/12.5. In other words, more sulphur than you use. (Perhaps large bore cannons are relatively easier to clean than muskets). Of course, they didn't have access to a quality source of chemicals. For instance, they got their salt peter from scraping moist tombstones -- which imparted a 'black arts' flavor to their black powder.

[@davisrs1]

@Everythingblackpowder You guys may be onto something! I came across this article! "The Swiss is a true sporting powder it's chemical rate of burn where the grain burns from the surface inward until the grain is consumed. The Swiss powder is able to produce a maximum gas temperature of about 2200 degrees. A rifle type powder, such as GOEX, has a slower chemical rate of burn and is only able to produce a maximum gas temperature of around 1800 degrees. There are differences in the properties of the respective charcoals used in each. Generally the faster burning sporting powders use a higher amount of potassium nitrate and a reduced amount of charcoal. That is playing with the volume of gas evolved and the temperature of that gas. The sporting type powder based on 78 parts of potassium nitrate, versus 75 parts in rifle powders, with a lesser amount of charcoal produce a lower volume of gases but a good deal hotter. With a sporting type powder in the bore, versus rifle or musket, you get a faster pressure rise and a faster pressure drop up the bore." Further research: So Bill Knight, aka The Mad Monk, discovered that Swiss black powder is a 78:12:10 formula milled for at least 24 hours. The Buckthorn alder is all harvested in the early spring when the sugar content is the highest and dried/aged 3 years. Charring is performed at 608 degrees for 8 hours!

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

Still didn't suck, brother. But don't worry...I'm sure some of the interwebz commandos and keyboard rocket surgeons will let you know if you do!🙄

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Great video. Thanks for putting all this work into your videos because I find them very entertaining. Have you tried black powder in a modern high velocity cartridge? If so, how did it work?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you. We have tried it in 3006, 303 British and 3030. Generally speaking it’s less than impressive

[@YerluvinunclePete]

Those yellow and black, Stanley screwdrivers do have a classic look. They'll go fine with any possibilities. I still want to see you 72 hour mill some powder made from BBQ hardwood.

[@user-kh7oi9id1h]

Recent laboratory experiments conducted at the United States Military Academy add additional points of data that in combination with what has already been presented should suffice to lay the matter to rest. Tests using a differential scanning calorimeter [DSC] indicate that a 2:1:2 gunpowder actually can potentially provide substantially more energy per gram even than a modern 75:10:15 mix. By contrast, in the DSC test the 2:0.2:2 recipe failed to combust fully, and produced less than 20% as much energy.17 The conclusion that the author of the Augsburg recipe meant a 2:1 rather than

[@user-kh7oi9id1h]

Recent laboratory experiments conducted at the United States Military Academy add additional points of data that in combination with what has already been presented should suffice to lay the matter to rest. Tests using a differential scanning calorimeter [DSC] indicate that a 2:1:2 gunpowder actually can potentially provide substantially more energy per gram even than a modern 75:10:15 mix. By contrast, in the DSC test the 2:0.2:2 recipe failed to combust fully, and produced less than 20% as much energy.17

[@greywuuf]

Your videos never suck, some are more comical than others but all are at the very least fun. On your ratios...does it stand to reason that the lower the sulpher content the lower the sulferic acid containing compounts you are going to get with humidity and residue? I have long thought that was a big part of why people expous BP as being so corrosive. I personally feel that even with no ballistic improvement anything we can do to reduce sulpher the better.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Seems reasonable to me

[@johnfisk811]

I understand that the Swiss Aubonne black powder uses the higher saltpetre value to have more oxygen to burn the charcoal at a higher temperature which raises the pressure. There are mixes which greatly reduce the smoke by eliminating the sulphur but would be unreliable to ignite from a flintlock pan but maybe some form of duplex load of normal black powder followed by the semi smokeless black powder might work perhaps?

[@raymondhorvatin1050]

Thanks for sharing you really should consider a new chronograph

[@Everythingblackpowder]

lol you think so?

[@3dPrintedTradingPost]

New video idea, I would like to see an old phone book used as a carbon source. Keep the videos coming.

[@KathrynLiz1]

Jake..... as I have heard of sulphur free BP, why not try 6 or even 5% and see where that goes? There must be a point at which something doesn't work as well with low sulphur or surely it would not be in common use as it is.... The high mill time sure does even things out vis a vis different charcoals though. I'd say you have the best data set on this subject post 19th century. A lot of the old lore got lost I think, I have a book about the British Army factory at Waltham Abbey where they made all the BP back in the day. Before I came to live in NZ in 1959 I used to go fishing in that area... nice spot. The factory went 'bang' eventually as many seemed to do, and I would posit that the issue was the huge cast iron wheel mills they used. Just a grain of sand in the mix would be enough in a dry milling process to cause that fatal spark. Keep up the good work my friend. Your videos are informative and thought provoking. I plan to make a press to compact the powder as you do. It does have its downside as you must know, but the fines can always be re-milled I suppose. My mill balls are pure linotype and they seem to wear very little compared to lead. You use brass I believe... I'd have to make those... expensive..... but the lino seems to work pretty well. Cheers... 🙂

[@christiandore7518]

Maybe all your subscribers can get together and all contact Garmin and see if they'll send you one LOL

[@michaelreynolds867]

I agree..I was just strolling down the comments looking to see if many ppl offer to chip in.. So...as a subscriber and viewer..I say EBP...where can we all help out? I got $20 on it.. It's just $600-ish.. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@swedeson6188]

Great video, thank you guys! Is it after four shots you normaly check the fouling? Please continue to always check the fouling after four shots, to do it after like seven-eight rounds is not scientific when you check it earlier in other videos!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Yep…

[@SlickClyde3264]

I need it now!! Ive been experimenting with this and i cant pick a ratio.

[@MemorialRifleRange]

Thank-You!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@RoyTelling]

Like the way you change the ending a little bit LoL

[@chadrichard6388]

Gunpowder Mills of Gorham , Maine . 1824 throught 1800's. By Maurice M. Whitten . Sporting : Potassium nitrate 78% Charcoal 12 % Sulfur 10 % Military : Potassium nitrate 75 % Charcoal 15 % Sulfur 10% . Blasting : Sodium nitrate 72 % Charcoal 16 % Sulfur 12 % . The potassium nitrate came from India . The charcoal was made from Speckled Alder obtained from local farmers .

[@awsomedude9111]

So I rewatched your how to make black powder video, I think similar to smokeless, by making small circle flakes or hollow cylinder spaghetti noodles it could have a faster burn rate, other than changing the elements like sulfur.

[@thetruthseeker5549]

"What a F-----" Dude, Your a cool presenter. Thanks for another great vid!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

@@thetruthseeker5549 thank you

[@schinderiapraemeturus6239]

Im definitely about clean burning propellant, all reloaders should be considering this as supply/availability is going to be tight going forward. What you are doing is awesome, but why not take it to the next level and try out fuels like ascorbic acid, sodium benzoate, glutaric acid? Oxidizers like guanidine nitrate that produce more gas, less solids? Traditional smitional- chance favors the prepared mind. BTW another way to look at stoichiometric is the ideal ratio that produces exothermic reactions and minimizes endothermic, re-combinate reactions. Oxide and solids formation takes energy out, gas products are ideal and create more pressure/velocity. BP substitutes are going to be important in the future, power to the masses. I'm all about collaboration if you want recipes to try out- my YT channel is limited but I occasionally upload vids of diy propellant and primer tests. Rock on Jake

[@OhmSteader]

That chrony has sucked up a lot of smoke. Caldwell would just send you a new one if they had any sense.

[@hiltonian_1260]

Stoichiometric ratios in combustion work perfectly in a perfect world. If every molecule of one chemical gets a chance at combining with every one of the other chemical it is superior. In real life, turbulence, chance, impurities, and other factors prevent all these perfect meetings. Your usual 77-13-10 is close enough to perfect that the imperfection of real world combustion outweighs the imperfection or perfection of the ratio.