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So, WotLK is coming to an end, and Cataclysm Classic will be dropping early summer 2024. Its a bit step to go beyond the original trilogy, but today I wanted to take a step back and ask the question - just how far is this classic journey realistically going to go?
At the end of the day we are getting Cataclysm Classic because enough people wanted to carry on, but where will enough people finally draw the line?
Join me today as I am to answer this question and find out For Real... How Far Will Classic Go? | Classic WoW
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[@WillEmmo]

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[@DerKnusperhase]

dont worry wiiee will cover 50 facts and things that arent bad in wooorlooooooooords of dreanor when the cash is flowing in and warlooooords is closer. its actually fun easy stepstone guyyyz . same thing with cataclysm.

[@ns-tech1304]

God u sold out badly lmfao, still suck at the game too.

[@michaelavila5056]

Sadge

[@Neltherya]

Go the runescape route : Update Classic and make it a permanent Classic+

[@vampiricalchemist]

This is the way. Any new piece of content must be synergistic with what is already there. No more "the game is only as big as it's latest expansion".

[@michaelpurdon7032]

I think after the reception of Sod, they will make a classic+ server designed to be a hone for all the seasonal content and characters moving forward

[@ryuno2097]

That's what most people wanted for Classic+ but we never got it.

[@Laborchet]

I’ve been saying this since before WOTLK was announced. Blizzard needs to make a WoW 2.0 A game that looks like retail, more modern textures but plays mechanically like classic wow. They need to redo the ENTIRE storyline from a different point of view rather than the arthas and thrall storylines we know

[@lou1968]

This is what we all want man.

[@Talix.]

I absolutely love Season of Discovery! As many believe this is a precursor for a true Classic+ which is really exciting to think about and I'm here for it!

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

To bad they letting bots/farmers take over. Again.

[@martinhriibek3443]

Love SoD, but... I kinda want new WoW. I don't want to play with 20yo graphic and effects. Instead of Classic+, why don't make WoW2 - retail graphics, vanilla gameplay. Or maybe a complete reboot with old Warcraft 3 missions as dungeons, remade old raids like Hyjal etc, new class balance... The list goes on and on...

[@Evirthewarrior]

​@TheUhmmmmmmmm bots are better than the WoW token, at least something is actually playing the game and moving the economy, instead of just buying gold from blizzard directly.

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

@@Evirthewarrior Bots are about as bottom of the barrel filth as the people buying the gold. There is no such a thing as "good" bots. They all are trash and do nothing but ruin economies and control markets. And can't wait for them to introduce the token to "battle bots". They said it wouldn't come in Classic. Yet here we are.

[@terrypankhurst7601]

@@Evirthewarrior Agree and really the only people that complain are the ones who artificially inflate the auction house prices.

[@AvalonT1681]

would have loved a Era TBC server

[@betadyne9559]

People wanted WoW Classic not for the content, but because the World is the main character of the game, something that was lost along the way. You are thinking in content, but the truth is that content is secondary to simply being a small hero in a big world.

[@maxmccann3030]

Par for the course for WillE, it's the same in many of his other videos. He does not seem to have any idea or feeling about why people wanted classic to begin with. Here's hoping the classic devs have the good sense to largely ignore this man.

[@Fabriciod_Crv]

Ok, so why does the classic community essentially play the game like they’re playing retail then? What you said only really rings true now for Classic era, but even as early as 2019 Classic, people were treating the game as if they were playing retail (i.e rushing to max level, clearing everything then dipping out until new content came out). MMOs today live and die by their content, Classic wow is no different.

[@robertp457]

That just isn’t true. Once I got to level 60 I never had a reason to visit any of the low level zones. Those zones might as well not exist at higher levels. Just because leveling took such a long time doesn’t mean the zones were a main character. They are just as much a character in classic as it is in retail. You quest in the zone and once there are no more quests there is little reason to visit it anymore.

[@robertp457]

@@Fabriciod_Crvpeople rush to the end game because if you fall behind catching up is difficult. While a character is a similar level as most players finding other players to do group content is much easier.

[@Fabriciod_Crv]

@@robertp457 that’s was the problem during 2019 Classic: Everyone was mage boosting and barely anyone was doing dungeons legitimately while leveling, making it almost impossible for new players or players with no gold on the server to do 1-60 dungeons.

[@sacrosouls]

I love SoD and the potential of new content in Classic. WotLK seasonal servers would also be great

[@Mcspazz731]

Yep I've been playing wotlk on pservers off and on since 2012 and would continue, I prefer blizzard servers but doesn't seem likely.

[@netsquall]

I might actually, really die IRL if I have to do the crusader shit over again a third time lmfao

[@aic20]

I personally like wrath and cata more than vanilla as far as the gameplay loops... for example I feel as if the vanilla talent trees are boring and trash tbh, I always end up thinking (wow i wish SoD was happening for wrath or cata so i could make even more fun and interesting builds)

[@Flo-lr9sh]

They have to reimagined a lot of raid and content for the first phase of wow, naxx was too long and boring. Making every lieutenant revive with the same mechanics of vanilla, instead of creating new one. Azjol-nerub is separate as 2 dungeon instead of a sub zone or a raid. And maybe for wotlk season of discovery they have to put retails talent to runes, because some of them already exist in wotlk as talent point

[@yourdreams2440]

WoD classic could actually be very good if they treat it as a fresh start and work from the ground up to fix what went wrong in the expansion. WoD has a really great expansion hiding underneath all the shit. Draenor is absolutely beautiful, and the dungeons and raids are really well done. There's such a great foundation, it just needs _more._ I'm not confident Blizzard would be willing to take that on, and if that's true, they should just skip it. Releasing WoD as it was would be a waste of time.

[@vh9129]

yeah IF they make the garrisson more usefull and interacting , more group content in them as well , I loved the assaults you could repel

[@kat-rau.]

WoD was basically 1/3 of the expansion they teased at Blizzcon. If they had delivered on the expansion they promised, WoD would've been a top 5 expac. The raids were great, the story was good, questing was good, zones were good, it was just missing a majority of the content expected from a WoW expansion. Some of the cut content was stuff we'd wanted for years: fully fleshed out player housing, a Shattrath raid, Karabor/Bladespire being main cities, three brand new zones (the Ogre Kingdom, Farahlon and the underwater Zangar Sea), and more. WoD would've been amazing if they'd just delivered what they promised.

[@Seemond3]

WoD was one of the best raiding expensions too! With a TON of stuff to do each day if you want besides PvP and Pve! The only thing that went bad with WoD honestly was its rushed state, its bad story line, too many missed raid (the ones we got were fantastic). The world with the trreasures, exploring etc was the best WoW i played across all expensions hands down. Time issues in the Dev time were the Nr.1 Killer. Obv the Garrision was too good therefore alot of people just sat there and did nothing + complained.. but hell the World was so filled with shit to do it was so nice.. i spent i lot of time in WoD and obviously i had times were i Mission logged in/out.. but if i had time i almost never were there except for a few minutes to do the missions.. Also don´t forget, it was THE best Expension as a solo Raider (LFG-Tool was an absolut beast with the last few patches) and even introduced cross realm play over diffrent language servers. WoD was INSANE with the Qol and Stuff an individual could do. It is still one of my most beloved Expension if you are are a solo Raider.

[@Accelerate55]

Wod Classic had been a meme since 2019. You people will really chug down whatever shit blizzard spurts out huh.

[@Apocobat]

I just want shattrath

[@ricknewton459]

I think season of discovery is great. I have not had so much fun in WoW since the "original classic" launch.

[@babelincoln2092]

I was hating on it before it came out but I've been proven wrong

[@jointser1008]

sadly nothing gives me as much joy as Legion... i don't like sod at all i prefer to stay at era and dragonflight.

[@Dualities]

This game could be 3x bigger if we actually had balanced English servers. EU the biggest region still doesn't have a single balanced pvp english server. Hardcore itself has way too much time investment to be considered a popular thing imo. also wotlk has tokens...p2w. open world pvp is non existent. no world interaction. bg pvp sux because heirlooms

[@Z4d0k]

Agreed! Every expansion has been less fun than Vanilla for me, but SoD has captured some of that original Vanilla magic :)

[@ostrogothiccyoutube8118]

legion had very unbalanced pvp tbh@@jointser1008

[@whataday2624]

I loved MOP. I enjoyed Cata. I am excited to replay both.

[@NICO-mr4ll]

WoD was basically 1/3 of the expansion they teased at Blizzcon. If they had delivered on the expansion they promised, WoD would've been a top 5 expac. The raids were great, the story was good, questing was good, zones were good, it was just missing a majority of the content expected from a WoW expansion. Some of the cut content was stuff we'd wanted for years: fully fleshed out player housing, a Shattrath raid, Karabor/Bladespire being main cities, three brand new zones (the Ogre Kingdom, Farahlon and the underwater Zangar Sea), and more. WoD would've been amazing if they'd just delivered what they promised.

[@weslipscomb4766]

This has always been my take on it. WoD was without a doubt the worst expansion WoW ever had but in no fault due to the content or anything. What we have (ouside of the botched tanaan jungle used to just walk us into the next expansion) is great, but the expansion is only disregarded as a whole because it's like Blizzard just stopped working entirely after the launch. No follow up patching to fix things. No new content (until they decided to end the expansion). Nothing. WoD was a very strange time. It had a LOT of potential. The Garrison system could have had a LOT of potential for future guild activities or something. But no it was all dropped.

[@kou7191]

Yeah, WoD wasn't bad, just half assed. SL is the genuinely bad expansion.

[@lukas8708]

@@kou7191 at least SL had more than 1 major content patch. Blackrock Foundry was fully scripted and ready to launch at release, therefore what we truly got in 6.1 was selfie camera and twitter integration. In 6.2 we got Tanaan Jungle and Hellfire Citadel which lasted for 14 months! WoD is a disaster when it comes to patches.

[@kou7191]

@@lukas8708 Hence why I said it wasn't bad, just half assed. To put it in other words, WoD was bad because aside from raiding or garrison stuff, there was nothing to do, whereas SL was bad because there were lots of things to do, but none of it was fun (subjective, I know, but it's the general consensus)

[@mariooooo.o3404]

Nah man WoD gutted my ability bar..MoP was great gameplaywise. I had 3 big movement skills, 5 cc's, the best ability of all time...mistweaver bubbles you had to place on the ground where people were running..it was fast, it was powerful, it was insane what you could do. And one day to the next all these wonderful flowstates you get when handling 1mio things at once went away. WoD felt like playing WoW in a wheelchair.

[@Jocic_]

As someone who started in BFA, I want to try out as many expansions as I can, so I hope we'll as much as possible.

[@davidsamuel9110]

As someone who has played all expansions, i would like them to go as far as Mists of Pandaria. I wouldn't mind WoD and Legion but i know more than half of the playerbase would say no to those.

[@kou7191]

@@davidsamuel9110 I think most people just remember Legion with love because it came after WoD and was followed by BfA and SL, so the bar wasn't high at all.

[@davidsamuel9110]

@@kou7191 It was a good expansion pvp-wise. But i also liked the zones and some dungeons. Many pvp players would agree with this.

[@jointser1008]

@@kou7191 No Legion was actually pretty good. literally the second most requested retail expansion.

[@johnny_eason_iii]

Excited/Stoked to be getting back into WoW & Classics after not playing the game at all since 2010 or so I’m pretty sure. Waiting on new laptop 💻 to arrive from UPS📦🚚👍🏼👍🏼😎💯

[@fatmitch1421]

As for someone that missed most of the raiding content in the past I would love to have a chance to do it now. At this point for me classic is experiencing what I’ve missed plus giving Blizzard a chance to fix things that were not so great (chance to redeem themselves a bit).

[@wladynoszhighlights5989]

I think since Microsoft bought blizzard (iirc full acquisition happened in 2023 oktober) they definietly changed a lot of things up in their workspace and have a different mindset with a different CEO as well

[@mfcrocker]

Like a lot of people, I hard quit retail in WoD and would only be on the Classic pipeline up to and including MoP. I'm also really not that interested in Cata - I'll dabble in it for the fun at launch, but I'll basically go back to SoD/HC after that.

[@bernard3303]

From what ive heard cata had really good dungeons and raids though + transmog so personally i love to give it a try, but its hard to beat classic and wrath so i hope they keep era servers for wotlk as well

[@kat-rau.]

I am really glad they decided to continue to Cata, mainly because that means we will get Mists of Pandaria Classic. That will be amazing. Mists was a fantastic expac, and I remember burning out in Cataclysm in 2011, only for my love for WoW to be re-invigorated in Mists.

[@davidsamuel9110]

@@kat-rau. I had lots of fun and memories in MoP as a fire mage! Loved the zones and music too!

[@sniksapap]

@@kat-rau. Cata flamed out quickly for me also but I enjoyed MOP and spent entirely too much time behind a keyboard on it. I would be open to a Mop+

[@macewindu9100]

@@bernard3303 World of Warcraft was great all the way through Warlords of Draenor even with all the cut content. It became the ugly thing we call modern wow with Legion and it hasn't gotten better since.

[@Dushku]

It's no longer classic starting with cata. The shattering is what makes classic classic. I would love to see permanent TBC and WLK availability. Even if they just make them "fresh" servers periodically.

[@TOXINZ2]

Wholeheartedly agreed! I feel like I might as well go play retail after that point.

[@Karrypto-6-6]

same here

[@Armakusify]

Other than Classic Era, I've had 0 interest in TBC, Wrath, etc. However Legion? I'll ABSOLUTELY come back for Legion

[@Noodlezoupful]

After Wotlk its not really classic for me anymore. sod in the other hand is Awesome. The Vanilla experience but the Runes and other improvements really making it fun and fixing some of the problems of some classes and stuff. If they would Keep give us the Old contend with all improvemts from all their new experience added it would be amazing

[@derekjanisch584]

SOD with Arenas and Rated Battlegrounds

[@Qatch1140]

i mean, i think both tbc and wrath were severe letdowns that left me disappointed the entire time. they dont feel like classic at all and have been very boring

[@jointser1008]

@@Qatch1140 imagine thinking tbc is bad just because it's not "classic" how delusional. a wow expansion doesn't need to be classic to be good. it just needs to be good if you know what i mean.

[@Qatch1140]

@@jointser1008 I still play thru wrath, era, sod and retail... TBC was a huge letdown with how bad arena and honor farming were, as well as still 1 button rotations and parses no longer mattered because of gdkp taking over as the normal way to play the game. I always thought the quests were boring and uninspired except nagrand. Granted, that's because nagrand is super cool aesthetically. I also don't like that TBC raiding is still just 1 mechanic matters, and sometimes there's 2. If they overlap you can wipe regardless of your raid teams skill. All of those problems, except for rotations, were further exacerbated with wrath. I had 4 60s in classic, 6 70s and now 5 80s. Around 10 70s on dragonflight. About to hit 60 again on era. Edit: arena is actually one big upgrade for wrath. Especially with how forgiving the honor grind is. And the honor gear being very relevant new 80 gear is great.

[@jointser1008]

@@Qatch1140 ok fair points. i'm just a big sucker for outlands always loved the theme of the outlands + i enjoyed kara,black temple and sunwell very much.

[@Veechii]

6:00 i literally cannot express just how keen i am for MoP to return with classic, so many of the classes were just FUN, Windwalker especially for me peaked in 5.4 and thats the one i will get to play for the entire expansion. I am also hoping that with the release of Cata/MoP blizzard will be able to look back on some of the more fun and class fantasy aspects of the classes and help them shape the retail classes more.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

MoP was truly a special expansion that not enough people appreciated because of stubborn mindsets and cataclysm poisoning the well. It deserves having the spotlight on it; with eyes unclouded by hate.

[@dahurgthedragon9010]

As someone who never got to do the Wrathion MoP questlines, I'd LOVE a MoP classic.

[@opopgoo]

I think after MoP classic Blizzard will slow down on re-releases. However, I would love to see a Burning Crusade SoD, Wrath SoD, Cata SoD, etc. I also think that as those later expansions hit their 10+ year mark that fans would want to go back and experience them again (or for the first time) "Just for the hell of it"

[@pauls4522]

Maybe whenever blizzard finishes a full round of expansions through classic, they can release wow classic-classic. I would give it all another go if blizzard makes an effort to circle around wow content every 10 years. Maybe on the second round they can remove the bots.

[@lukas8708]

not to mention the awkward moment when they ask us about WoD Classic xD

[@Hipp1062]

The answer is as far as the classic community wants it to go. I think there's a chance people will ask for mop, but I don't see anyone playing past that point. There are already a number of classic server types available with more likely coming at some point, so I highly doubt the demand for later expansions will be enough for blizz to commit further. Just what I think anyway.

[@lennic]

Fun part about sephuz early , I was playing survival and I could procc it on any fight, at any moment by throwing a net at a boss , best on the opener was you ran in, for some reason the survival hunter net was the only CC that could proc on immume targets lol I loved it

[@brandonrathbone3690]

I've been a monk main since before day 1 of MoP. Knew I was making one back in cata. So yes. I'll be playing the heck out of Classic MoP when it comes around. I've still got those CM paths burned into my brain

[@Boxkar24]

I'm not a big classic dude (after revisiting classic I've actually started to hate it if I'm being honest) but I always figured for the people who do enjoy that version of the game that wrath would of been the end of it. The world itself changes quite a lot, and a lot of those things other people like so much go with it. I'm sure others have said it already but if anything they should do a seasonal Wrath server along with the seasonal vanilla one. With that said I'm sure a ton of people are going to play cata classic but I gotta feeling that's where people are going to start falling off, similar to what happened back then.

[@SmoothjazGamingTV]

Personally I hope we don’t see MoP, definitely not under the scope of “classic wow”. Although I have great memories of it, it isn’t “classic wow” anymore. If they want to continue going through expansions it would be better to rename the progression as a separate series, different to classic, but still coexisting alongside Retail & Classic. Great vid as always! 👍🏻

[@Thrall966]

I Hope we don’t see MoP ? That sentence is a crime . MoP was the best expansion . It should’ve replaced TBC

[@Thrall966]

Vanilla > MoP > DF . Those 3 are golden

[@Boxsoup]

I actually really loved WoD. Before Classic I was just a solo player that didn't really do LFR or Mythic+. I loved the Zones, Garrison and running the raids in later expansions for transmogs. If it were to be brought back in classic changing the pacing of the phases/patches would fix it for a lot of people. I would love to see them bring in scrapped content but as you said it isn't very likely.

[@AleksandraJanecka]

I'd love to replay Legion. I hope they will get to that point some day

[@williammcgrath291]

Legion is one of my favorite expansions of all time, I am currently playing SoD and I love vanilla and the classic trilogy in general but as someone that came to classic from retail. Legion feels like an expansion that would attract a lot of players. I know I am in the minority here but I would definitely love to see Legion again.

[@brennorris7061]

As someone who played classic since beta, Legion was far and away the best expansion after the trilogy.

[@someguy9970]

Legion was absolute ass. Titanforging, RNG legendaries, timegated content everywhere, stupid mission tables, AP grinding, etc.

[@Flowerz__]

@@someguy9970facts, MOP was way better than legion

[@jointser1008]

actually i think a lot liked legion. personally i can't decide between pandaria and legion.

[@jetflightneon8115]

Yes!! Exactly!

[@yourdreams2440]

A legion rerelease would be so awesome. I recently played through the demon hunter starting event again and was reminded how damn cool legion writing was. Legion as an expansion felt so epic. The tone, the atmosphere, the writing, how all the little details connect into this big epic narrative about destroying the burning legion. It was so awesome. After they fix up the systems early on in the expansion people will fall in love with it again. Definitely one of the best expacs ever.

[@thelofipimp]

The pvp was stellar

[@jetflightneon8115]

Yes!

[@cameronmynhier2628]

I think season of discovery is going to be exceedingly important in the long run. It’s showing blizzard that they can dedicate time and resources to giving us a modified or altogether different classic experience, and people will respond accordingly if the product is good.

[@yutyrannus5209]

im already hyped for WoD classic. WoD was the time i started playing wow.

[@erikhendrickson59]

The EverQuest "Classic" servers (called Time Locked Progression) continue right up to retail. Based on my experience there, WOW Classic will see a *_sharp_* dropoff at a certain point. I think Blizzard's best-bet is going all-in on SOD and using that to develop a full-scale "Classic Plus" release.

[@terrypankhurst7601]

yep with only horizontal progression at 60, be fun to see where it could all go, especially with some devs that actually have love for it.

[@AustinRiba]

Which is why I’m confused as to why people think classic will “stop”. I mean holly longdale is now on the classic team, coming from EverQuest. It’s definitely going to catch up and just become retail when it does.

[@NicCVVV]

Mists was honestly one of the greatest expansions…. It was SO good and SO FUN. The leveling pace was great, I felt More in tune with the story as I leveled, and when I entered Pandaria I actually paid attention to the story more. The raids were great. There was a ton of side of content. It was great. WoD just didn’t have much to do… but the raids were…. Amazing…

[@H41030v3rki110ny0u]

and druids had SYMBIOTE!!

[@candlestyx8517]

WoD is also when itemization became standardized and boring AF. You just dont find many unique weapon and armor pieces with interesting effects anymore

[@necnotv1683]

Adding content that had to be scrapped during the original launch of the addons would be a great start. Also fresh servers for every Classic there is once the content cycle is completed. This would give players the option to jump onto any expansion they currently feel like playing. I'd imagine a time where a "new" raid tier releases every month of the year would be a good sub retention method and would give players value for their subscription money.

[@SirJohnsonP]

Ah man that Cataclysm stormwind theme always gimme such chills 🥶🌶️

[@RunicTitan]

I would actually LOVE WoD classic with changes added to it. The zones all looked and felt amazing, and are still some of my favorite zones of all time.

[@cwilliams744]

Maybe I am crazy, but I would be more than happy to play on a classic server that progresses from Vanilla to TBC to Wrath over 3-5 years, then restarts, and I would be more than happy bringing in the SoD changes to this kind of server. I'll be happy playing through the original trilogy forever.

[@TOXINZ2]

Amen!!!

[@cwilliams744]

@@TOXINZ2glad to hear I am not alone!

[@TOXINZ2]

@@cwilliams744I feel like a lot of people would love it too! That and Classic+

[@JT-mt6ku]

I would love for this season to play out with class balancing on the fly followed by a reset at the end so we could play back through the phases with all the balancing already done for an even better experience the second time around.

[@elstupido4575]

I started playing in BFA unfortunately so I hope they have one version of classic that just keeps going on and one like SoD where they actually do extra content with classic.

[@vantheus1002]

i've had a blast going back and revisiting each expansion. i hope they keep going. it's fun going back and playing the classes with the different design philosophies. i hope they'll go up through legion cause i'm here for it

[@ryuno2097]

So does that mean we'll get a Battle of Azeroth classic? Shadowlands classic?

[@alrightylol]

@@ryuno2097 totaly ok with that, tho i doubt classic hype will live that long.

[@alexfdezpal]

I think there were only 2 options for classic. Either stop at Wrath or progress through EVERY expansion with gameplay and pacing changes. I think they should have rebranded those Classic expansion to something else, since even they have called it at some point “progression servers”.

[@Baulder13]

pretty sure a ton of classic players won't touch cataclysm with a ten foot pole.

[@Nersius]

My dream would be a remade Classic+ Vanilla thru WotLK journey where you constantly criss-cross between Azeroth and Outland.

[@ultramasculine9242]

A little bit off topic: I started to play WoW a week or two before launch of Cataclysm. I think the launch happened at midnight. I was waiting for it at Stormwind with lots of other players even though I wasn't at max level yet. At midnight everyone just flew away and I was left alone (almost). One of those who flew away was my cousin. By the morning he had leveled his character from 80 to 85 and got some kind of burn out. As far as I know he hasn't touched WoW since. Good memories.

[@General12th]

Hi Will! I'm most looking forward to MoP and Legion Classic.

[@andromidius]

It can go on forever, honestly. Resets, being able to move between expansions, whatever makes people happy. They just need to realise changes will always be needed - rebalancing, bug fixes, quality of life improvements.

[@wowhorde7775]

A wod classic with pharalon and the shattrath would litetally be a dream come true

[@Vektordeformacio]

We speak of Blizzard. Do not setup yourself to being heartbroken.

[@Lucromis]

Mists of pandaria is probably the limit for me. Wrath is the last of the original feeling of Warcraft 3, and cata and panda both are great in their own ways.

[@bryanheilman4376]

Will love to play cata! I look forward to mop and legion again! But maybe not so much wod

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

I've never played any of the "Classic" versions, not even vanilla. Mostly because I played all of those when they first came out and can still remember all the terrible things about them and realize that most of the good stuff was only due to it being new and therefore I have no desire to experience any of it again.

[@Chazzvc]

I think Mop is pretty much guaranteed at this point. Wod and Legion? Maybe. I think after Legion they should dump our classic characters into a Permanent Legion Server since being stuck in Legion forever really wouldn't be that bad. Then they can launch classic a second time with all the good changes they made over the years. Changes that aren't drastic to the game but fine tune out modern problems. Like the black lotus problem in 2019 classic where you could literally never find one.

[@jim8056]

I d love to see more Hardcore WoW variations, such a Wotlk Hardcore and Retail Hardcore, especially due to achievements being there

[@JBBrickman]

I didn’t watch the vid but I will hop in classic when it gets to Battle For Azeroth. Had to play it briefly to get to current level when I started WOW and it was a blast and I would love to experience the whole story and whole expansion at the right pace, so I’m holding out for Classic BFA.

[@modenoatr]

I'm absolutely down to go all the way to Legion - as long as WoD lasts, like, a year, tops.

[@KiaStout]

Well we know that wod was cut short so what if they sped it up but also added the cut content?

[@MattConforti21]

Classic should had stopped at Wrath

[@MSinistrari]

This was something I was wondering when Classic started. I understood the allure of going back to vanilla, but I wondered how much could they do with it with the content that was there before everyone was tired of it with only possibility I saw then was TBC classic and WotLK classic which then got me wondering if classic's only going to be WoW-a few expansions back.

[@Hipp1062]

I imagine seasonal servers will replace classic expansions soon enough. They'll only go so far as the community is willing to play.

[@agab3asbgedsbef479]

@@Hipp1062 like everquest?

[@agab3asbgedsbef479]

if blizzard can make money just by re-releasing old content and not putting effort into something new why wouldnt they? the only person losing out is the consumer and they even gave you a warning label “you think you do but you dont” if players want old recycled content its ez free money for blizzard

[@higherup5204]

Does anyone know the song that plays in the background at 2:40?

[@alexvoyd1132]

Cataclysm IS retail. Its not classic.

[@Cyllid]

[@petermartinson5483]

​@@Cyllidright, except he's not wrong. Wotlk was the end of that era, cata started to bridge the gap between classic and retail era.

[@ez6791]

​@@Cyllideverything after vanilla isn't classic but we call tbc and wrath classic because it's the great beginning trilogy where the expansions do not change vanilla too drastically. Anything after wrath is not classic's trilogy. Truthfully, vanilla = classic at first, everything else is just a re release of an expansion whereas classic/vanilla is a re release of the original game.

[@Tendo28]

wrath is retail classic is classic

[@Davidhenry1210]

The players are retail. Just look how they are treating SoD

[@Tehilliym]

Should stop @ wotlk

[@Kureene]

Should have stopped at tbc

[@weweedboy]

I would love to play Pandaria Fresh again, was so much fun

[@Tokiomy]

MOP was crazy,do you remember the affly lock snapshoting?

[@Heavnelydemon]

Cataclysm was start of retail its not classic

[@dawowplaya1]

I just hope we make it to mop, was by far the most fun I’ve had in wow

[@mr_yoru5834]

I think they should just keep going through the expansions. Kind of wish they'd leave a few servers up for each expansion, though, but I get where that could be difficult to manage.

[@sandi-zli9567]

Cata and than Mop but with a lot of changes implemented (M+ Challenge Mods etc) . It could be a blast

[@ArtificialGamingIntelligence]

My friends and I all want Classic+ and Panadaria. Pandaria is by far my most wanted expansion as it looks absolutely gorgeous and I've never played beyond Warth.

[@jointser1008]

Pandaria is based.

[@Keygo]

I think WoD will be great this time around. Maybe they could find some changes to make it a little better with feedback? But I do agree that even seeing Legion again eventually would be great for the MMO scene.

[@hugoboncar]

Legion is my favourite expansion. It's the expac I played most and I had so much fun. I really quit halfway through BfA and really a few months into Shadowlands because Choreghast was a fucking pain the arse. But if I could play Legion Classic again, I would for sure. Not even for progress, just spend time in Legion would remind me of when I started WoW and I had really good memories.

[@TMGround]

As some others have said, I haven't had so much in wow as I have right now in SoD. If they make an everlasting classic+ mode out of this by keeping it constantly fresh, this could be my wow thing for the next years. TBC and WOTLK classic was fine and I liked playing through the new content, but it was always a time-limited thing for me. And at this point, I dont really care about cataclysm classic. I'll just stay in my vanilla classic+ bubble for a while, thank you very much :p

[@Manifibell]

I would like to start over fra classic and go though tbc and wrath again. Multi year long journey, and we start over. If we get MoP I could see myself trying it. I missed it back in the days

[@TOXINZ2]

SAME!!!

[@Neylax2832]

Man i want to play Mists of Pandaria now. You need a disclaimer 🤣

[@newspin2477]

It seems pretty clear to me they will just keep going until it catches up with current... making some fixes to biggest criticisms and making the release cadence more regular. Once it catches up they'll probably do something to restart the whole cycle

[@radiologicphysicist1083]

New player here: Does that mean there will be more expansions added to the current classic offering? Right now it’s TBC and WotLK right?

[@jetflightneon8115]

Im HOPING for legion, it was my FAVORITE

[@derpty420lerp3]

im going to try and play all the expansions i missed, and thats a lot of them

[@Tratatai]

Now that we hit cata I seriously no longer give a shit about standard classic gameplay experience onwards. Hope they won't get lazy with seasons and we won't have a god damn year of downtime per season.

[@cosminpopa8208]

this man is like a loyal cold friendly teacher in times of need. I know him for more than 4 years - 5, the same content

[@HappyHubris]

Currently doing classic HC and I would love a Burning Crusade HC that starts you at level 60 and makes you travel to 70. TBC had such interesting content, and it would make those tough heroics far more interesting if you had ten levels of progress on the line.

[@likeaknifefight5583]

Just take a look at Everquest progression servers. Holly Longdale ran those for a long time. In EQ what they do though is they release content at an accelerated rate and then a new fresh every year for the people who only like the first xpacs while letting the older servers run on specific rulesets and release schedules until they catch up to live and get merged. I expect we may see something similar once they've done "classic" of every xpac and see what the players end up wanting and playing long term. I expect the major classic realms will see a pretty big resurgence for MoP and then Legion once they push that far along.

[@JeremyB1039]

After 10yrs of not playing wow, SoD got me hooked lol

[@kodi7024]

WoD had some great questing. And the best cinematic. CBF playing past WotLK though.

[@Avramic]

as someone that never experienced first hand WoW Addons before Battle for Azeroth - Im happy being able to play some old addons in their classic version!

[@devak18]

I can only see current retail players liking Legion classic.

[@IAce1]

You're being extremely positive and that only lasts a small amount of time.

[@tiborsipos1174]

WoD was amazing from storytelling perspective. The game became as close to a series as possible. The "cinematic" interludes while leveling made the gameplay refreshing. Raids and dungeons felt more "organic" too. Quite action packed and fluent, not just a "boss, dead, next please" The garrison was a huge potential. Housing in WoW was one of the most requested feature, and blizz stubbornly refused to give players housing, because they wanted something unique, not just a copy from 12 is a dozen competitors... Up until this day I think the most interesting and mechanically acceptable way of garrison would be if Blizz would give up the "solo hero" and "force alt to artificially extended playtime" method and change the "heroes party system" Instead of NPC-s you could recruit your alts and mission tables would be semi bots. You don't send a random "noname" npc to a mission to get gold and whatever. You could just send your alts to do your daily chores instead. Creating your own factory. That... players already do., But instead logging to your alt and leveling up a skill, or just craftin you could just make a fantasy factory, send your herbalist alt to gather herbs, while you give your second alt alchemy who just craft potions. The penalty that they would do it slower. Meanwhile your main/active account character just do its journey and unlocks your "garrisons" next level, since the way I would made the system player active, that you need to unlock the skill/spec specific stuff. Want to farm alchemy? Build up the alchemy lab. Want 10 alts? Well... you need 10 rooms in your garrison. Spice it up with some pvp / siege system where you could add extra fort benefits, and invaders could get something from you, which could be its own discussion. Risk-reward of being bullied in a mmorpg is hard to balance. Its not fun to be steamrolled, but giving the "tech three option" for some pvp garrison build is interesting too. But this is not what we got or will ever get. I always felt blizz hated the idea of housing, so they gave one of the worst implementation so players stop asking for it. We technically got mobile game implemented to wow...

[@honeygetthebikepimp2460]

man i would love if they rereleased wod finished with all the cut content they wanted to add in, thats the only reason i could see them doing a wod classic. dont know how likely it is but i can hope

[@teapoweredpro3556]

Go as far as legion and then start again! or Afterwards a wrath era server(s) please, but I suppose it also depends on what happens in sod / classic + and if it keeps the numbers, for an older returning player there are fun choices and journey at the moment either way.

[@jeremiahsmith8499]

Can't wait for Classic Midnight ;)

[@brewtank6738]

Legion last patch was actually so fun cuz u could get legos on your atls pretty easily b4 that was pretty meh. i liked legion a lot tho for the most part

[@Specktacular]

Can't wait for Shadowlands Classic!

[@Laborchet]

Kek

[@masonc88]

Lowkey loved WoD for Rated BG's. Enhance went crazzzzyyy with flameshock+fire nova

[@Raumes513]

I’ve always assumed it’ll stop at cata, to me the biggest change was no talent points, I stopped playing at the end of cata but my brother didn’t and I’m pretty sure mists is when they got rid of talent points right? Idk it’s probably just me but talent points are a big reason I enjoy mmos lol

[@samjoseph8556]

I think their best bet would be to go the EQ route, with a variety of seasonal, progression, and player-voted unlock servers alongside retail.

[@billlange9408]

I played from the end of Vanilla up until Firelands came out. I took 2 1/2 years off to play SWTOR and I don't regret a second of it. I came back to WoW at the end of Mists and did some LFR to catch up on things. For WoD and Legion, I hit level cap with a few characters, did some of the first raid tier, then quit again. It wasn't out of spite, it was just out of boredom. I didn't play BFA, SL, or DF. I'm looking forward to Cata. I enjoyed it back when it launched, but as stated I quit at Firelands, so didn't get to experience the rest as it rolled out. My favorite WoW memories will always include tanking Cata Heroics on my Pally. Cata Heroics were actually hard after coming off Wrath, and I couldn't have been happier. When you got a decent group and could get past say, the first boss of Stonecore, you knew you were in for a good time. I may stop if they do MoP Classic. It depends on what my guild is doing. As is, we're likely splitting into 10 man teams for Cata, so that's going to drop some of the connection we have. I'll have to play it by ear, I suppose.

[@6stringbravo616]

I mean, me personally, I stopped right now back in the day. The end of wrath.. However, it was bc of irl stuff. I would be happy to be able to play through all of it up until where it is now just bc I never got the chance to then. Now, I'm stable in life and can afford to hit it a few hours out of the week. Would love to experience it to where folks are currently.

[@cquencer]

mop is only expansion i didnt had the chance to play at all. Since i main monk i would love to play it where monks were the best melee class :)

[@shivasthong4924]

I definitely want to see Pandaria Classic; but I am not keen on Cata Classic.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

My ideal future for WoW: the ability to play the game in VR!

[@Galdenistal]

Back when Classic was announced in late 2017, I knew I'd be onboard to play Vanilla to MoP. After that though, I'm not sure I could take playing WoD, even though WoD will only last 1 year, I'd be more tempted than ever to see what else is going on to play instead. I'm avoiding SoD in order to stay fresh for Cata, I'm just raid logging in Wrath now and recharging for Cata.

[@BBTheSixth]

if they're going past Wrath, which they are, they gotta get to Legion, that is the best retail expansion and worth it.

[@kyubeycoobie3568]

I would like pandaria just for my old murder of crows with my hunter again I felt so badass summoning an actual murdwe of crow adds