The 5 Biggest WINNERS Of Phase 3 Changes | Season of Discovery | WoW Classic

[@zargisan9017]

Looking forward to level 60 phase. I quit after I hit 40 because of all the min maxing. Getting a raid spot as a fresh level 40 halfway through the phase is near impossible. The game meant for casuals turned out to be not so casual friendly. Thanks wow community, you’re the best.

[@crowy2720]

Join a guild buddy

[@justinTime077]

I also gave up. It’s not fun. It’s the culture of the butt-pumpers and log-lickers that are bringing the vibe down with their toxic mentality for me.

[@Howdypartnerlol]

@@crowy2720I did, they funneled the loot to their progression team and left me with nothing. Me as mm lost my gun to the main tank’s alt. Git Gud I guess

[@dansrensen9484]

@@Howdypartnerlol join a better guild then

[@jamessikaris9288]

Couldn’t get into gnomer either. And I had every single pre bis

[@KonamisQuest]

Pro tip for Ele shamans! Use Rank 1 Lightning bolt in pvp to stack up lightning shield charges as you kite with frost shock since it is a very very short cast time and basically free.

[@AmnystyyRTWEWERT]

what attack to drop when have full stacks? "im a new ele shaman"

[@JustinRobinson-ri1rm]

@@AmnystyyRTWEWERT Earth shock

[@valenj.9307]

Pro tip for alliance: stop q’ing bg’s and let the horde have infinite q times

[@alexandrucatalindragan6842]

​@@valenj.9307gotcha will do

[@kelltik2000]

The 2.6 modifier for warrior crits is incorrect. Impale adds a flat 20% to crits, bringing the modifier to 2.2, not 2.4. Likely the rune will work the same, bringing the modifier to 2.3 with impale, not 2.6. (It's a % of the 100% "bonus", not the 200% "total")

[@MilouBack]

while i agree on impale, the wording seems to be different for the rune as it say critical damage, while impale clearly say critical strike dmage bonus. Would result to something like 2.42 ?

[@kelltik2000]

@@MilouBack Maybe, Blizzard is infamously bad with improperly worded or misleading tooltips, so it's hard to say which way it works for sure.

[@thenotreallyfunnyguy]

Based on current warrior sims, dualwield fury and gladiator stance are within a few percent of each other, with 2h arms way behind.

[@zawarrudo3930]

Was that before or after the buffs on shield slam?

[@jamesn3122]

@@zawarrudo3930 prolly after

[@svens3722]

oh no, so all paladins will say the 2 handers are for them. im screwed.

[@kiybavailamyr6188]

​@jamesn3122 you don't even cast shield slam. The current meta simming for Gladiator Stance consists of specing 13/28/0. Enough points in Arms for Deep Wounds and you'll spam devastate. Deep wounds carries your damage, and since you're in gladiator stance you can make use of improved execute.

[@Zutang777]

2h arms is going to pump with the new set gear giving warrior a 5 percent chance to get another another attack with their weapon. Do sword spec. the epic sword with +8 sword skill. Taste for blood with overpower ever 6 seconds. swift hand. I don’t think you understand how BUSTED this 2h sword set up is.

[@mitchelldittes2555]

You have to realize that rogues arent going to use these new poisons at all unless deadly brew gets reworked. Putting armor shred poison on your offhand gets rid of both instant poison AND a potential improvement like a sharpening stone or weapon oil. That dps sacrifice is so large that you legitimately take less of a hit from just manually applying Expose Armor. Blizz is gonna have to address this with a revamp to deadly brew...

[@TyEditss]

Yes they are ther just going to be like horde hunters one horde hunter has to use aspect of the lion and the other one can get 99 parses xD

[@caseybrown6813]

Parse Monkes gonna Monke I guess. Imagine gimping your whole raid for your singular DPS. Lol.

[@Reps1991]

@@caseybrown6813 nah u don't get the point. For example in a 10 man grp with 4 melees your poison Benefits those other 3 with maybe 2-3% more physical dmg as other armorepen abillitys. You self loose 15%dmg. So the Overall Benefits get dimished/ negated.

[@caseybrown6813]

20 Man Raids BTW

[@Reps1991]

@@caseybrown6813 okay so you got 20 man. IEA was only viable with an uptime way above 90% in a 25 man raid without that hugh dmg loss. So my point still stands. Its just stupid to give a minor utillity with that Kind of drawbacks.

[@Sigma6987]

For affliction: As long as you can't life tap during baseline drain life anymore it's hard to imagine not using master channeler over soul siphon.

[@martinc9510]

Lightning shield "never loses charges" doesn't mean that it won't still last only ten minutes though.

[@ELLLHeKKKo]

tru

[@badwolfxd3593]

Sooo youre saying you don't prep before a battle/ a pull? Do you not press your buttons? Because 10mins is a long time in a fight.

[@ShaiKappaElKappa]

​@@badwolfxd3593I mean he did mention them buying PIs at capital cities

[@MrNotesofmusic]

Glad stance offers 10% damage increase. Warriors have CBR, Flag for a total of 45% increase to dmg from all sources. Glad warriors will be stacking deep wounds and getting flat dmg increases on it. Deep wounds is like 980 ticks 20 seconds into a boss fight.

[@bentobul5932]

I might be missing something but for rogues, is never gauge not better with ss > saber? assuming u went full combat. Also why are you comparing the poisons with Humi when its 1 button vs 3 poison slots on a 2 weapon class which will probably prio WF over anything Also, losing adre rush for imp armor? I dunno man

[@bjrnchrstn]

Hearing your voice again (just started SoD) took me back in time about 15 years 😂

[@mitlandir5761]

Say what you will, but I hate the idea of Rogue tanks and Mage healers. I HATE IT.

[@ZiggyJr]

Yes it just don't work doesn't fit. Pvp is just get blasted in 1 second from geared players. It's retail baby! I think everyone is starting to see it

[@Bigmatt7]

I wasn't interested, but now I'll try out sod today. I've never tried alliance, so I'll give it a go

[@alfavhunter7010]

Just an fyi, the ranged hunter is going to be trash still. The steady shot buff was already live, and its still bad. And the 75 bonus rap on trueshot only adds about 15 dps. Because still hunters don't scale for crap. If they want to fix ranged hunters for pve without breaking rhem in pvp its actually VERY simple. Put rap scaling on serpent sting and fire traps, reduce damage chimera shot gets from serpent sting to 15-20%. Scaling issue fixed.

[@dukekemppy5409]

Dont care if glad is bad, I am playing it

[@bass-dc9175]

Shockadins also get something VERY interesting. Especially the Spellpower variant. Not because of runes, but rather: Items. Because that one wants to equip a caster weapon with high attack speed. Which does not exist in P2, except for the Glimmering Gizmoblade, which is a dagger. Paladins can not wear daggers. With the new STV weapon that changes. A holy-damage buffing caster sword with 1.5 attack speed. This in addition to the new PvP Set will likely result in IOF-Shockadins becomming a playable spec for raids (Not the best in terms of DPS, but reasonable in terms of DMG with the option to switch to healing for emergencies). Probably will be a fun spec for PvP too.

[@reqorium8664]

Coming back to wow; how did shockadin end up working? Deciding on a main

[@Daemeous]

I think Gladiator Stance's best case is that it's useful for levelling (if it's accessible early) and maybe niche in PVP

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

speaking as a shaman main who just played the STV event after the nerf, let me put it this way: im down from casual 1400 coins to scraping by with 700... dunno if this was because i was in a warrior group but this wasn't a problem before the patch where i was also in a lot of warrior groups. blizzard have literally nerfed my AP from 1400 (with beta + double rockbiter) to 400 (with WF+Flametongue which is what they want us to run). my health is down from 3.4k to 1.9k... now i too can hit like a noodle and die in a single cheap shot, so i want to extend my heartfelt thanks to the community, this is the experience i was looking for. this reminds me of vanilla enhancement so vividly and im getting so nostalgic so thanks, i love having my entire spec destroyed. have fun looking for tanks next phase btw.

[@wheeze9378]

Protection warrior seems super bugged. 1) No threat compared to Shaman/Rogue/Warlock tanks, both single target and aoe is a huge problem! 2) No dps compared to Shaman/Rogue/Warlock tanks, again both on single target and aoe. 3) Strength doesn't seem to give proper block value (You get like 1 block value from 21 Strength?) Threat/Damage on Shield Slam/Thunder Clap and Devastate definitely needs to be buffed, especially on Thunder Clap to make prot war somewhat viable for tanking more than one mob.

[@Mirrari]

Yo Willie I really like your videos but you gotta do your research before posting those kind of videos. Most of the information you provided is simply wrong. For example: - Elementals are one of the biggest losers this phase. They must melee now and have low sims. New runes are trash. - Afflication is still very bad and is simming the lowest. No need to speculate we have the data. - ranged Hunters are still in a bad position.

[@elrondfortuna8828]

Just what sod needs even more OP Shamans

[@hegelianfrog]

Glad Stance +10% dam Consumed by rage +10 Shield mastery +10 Flag + 25 Death Wish +20 Rampage +10% AP Recklessness and Deep wounds with WF procs on Devastate spam is gonna be insane Also Thrash Blade/that Fist weapon that can hit one more time with HoJ will make you into a literal machine

[@belatedbirch9300]

Never get devastate as it doesn't stack with homunculi etc, so it doesn't matter, warrior tank shat on again

[@hegelianfrog]

@@belatedbirch9300 time to send shadow priests to their only and true use of being healers.

[@aermik]

Warlock actually was a MASSIVE loser this phase. Lost access to lake of fire for firelock and an entire section of runes became unusable Lost access to soul link which invalidates the demonology tree for tanks (the only ones who used it) Further buffs to the shadow playstyle that was already going to out-perform fire this cycle anyway Tanks now are required to go destruction warlock Two out of the 4 playstyles have been removed from the game. Warlock used to have a fair bit of actual customization but unfortunately blizzard decided that they were having fun the wrong ways.

[@99ownage9]

I think if you can get this aoe rune early or get ur guild to help you , with all the other aoe stuff, molten blast, enchant body, oil of immolation, will make it one of the best tanks to farm dungeons with right ? 🤷🏻

[@Bennydenim]

Ya I don’t know how you can think ranged hunter isn’t getting a massive boost. Trap launcher with lock and load gives you 6 chimera shots instead of a normal 2 paired with the tier set that will be up constantly because exploding trap lasts for 20 seconds with a 15 sec cooldown so the buff will be a free 70 ap and the new true shot is wilddd. Gives me 200 ranged ap base. I’m already hitting much harder and I don’t even have tier or lock and load. I’m very excited for phase 3 and beyond

[@Doddweon]

Really hope the change to Sniper Training is enough to make it viable! Seems like a good solution to a class fantasy that's hard to balance with the movement mechanics that usually follow pve combat, one that no other class has (using ranged weapons I mean) and an addition that might surpass even "future" iterations of MM Also, since you called this video "biggest winners" do you intend to make a "biggest losers"? Are there any classes and playstyles that became less viable with the changes in p3? Is it too early or too nonsensical to talk about it before playing it?

[@austinhensley6553]

what he said "hat gives combo points" what i heard " imp pen armor is bis now"

[@carlmcclatchie2122]

Great vid. :) Druids actually get a 25% attack speed debuff, but you wont use it on a boss ever, just pointing it out tho :)

[@Duallight-kw1nx]

lol I went into dungeons and did a gnomer with glad stance tanking and i was out dpsing everyone on cleave pulls. Glad stance is based.

[@dinovoldo544]

Honor Among Thieves for Rogues with an Elemental Shaman would mean a guaranteed 1 CP every time Fire Shock + Lava Burst is cast.

[@jimih941]

Season of discovery is wow for people without a lot of time and I love it

[@Mich43lab]

Shaman still the strongest opest class, what a surprise

[@scytze]

Is that salty pally i smell?

[@Golikol369258]

paladin with hammer (aoe and the st one) seems pretty nice

[@KingCtm]

I had to learn rogue tank this season just to get invited to groups :(

[@zawarrudo3930]

Good. Fuck rogues.

[@Leenia18]

Why the sad face? Is it not sweet as hell to be able to bo rouge tank and viable for once?

[@akunmapkah586]

I just pay 15 dollar A month to pay Asian Priest healer always Raid with me I can Raid ANYTIME, and i not need do anything since be the one search other people to Raid Very convenient!

[@davidcardinal3654]

@@akunmapkah586damn you just paid their entire years salary. You are a good man!

[@Gorthug.]

lol good learn to be useful to a group instead of some dime a dozen dps, lead the group for once I promise you it’ll be a lot more fun/rewarding than mindlessly dpsing

[@ZZ-os4nb]

There's no way they're gonna let lightning shield be snapshot.

[@rashninja3941]

What is even snap shot

[@ZZ-os4nb]

@@rashninja3941 Basically, certain abilities can keep buffs after the buffs have faded from the player. So for instance, you power word fusion a Shaman, they lightning shield. The power word infusion buff fades from the character but because lightning shield was affected by it and lasts 10 minutes, the power word infusion would still be active on the shield.

[@rashninja3941]

@@ZZ-os4nb oh so like recklesness

[@nowas5146]

If you read online you would think rogues have this awful time finding raid spots. All 3 of my friends and I have rogues and haven't experienced this at all.

[@bmc3301]

SoD shaping up to be more like Wrath Minus than Classic Plus

[@vladpuia6960]

cry

[@inquz3402]

Totally agree with u.

[@rogerdodger1984]

Geez you people can never just be happy for new content. Who cares?

[@mitchconner2021]

Awhhhh so sad it's not you're exact vision of classic + someone get him a blanket

[@mitchconner2021]

These are the comments I love from braindead classic players. Not even to the phase with the max level

[@Joshxoxo38]

drop steady shot for expose weakness, steady shot is not good

[@Bernard-c2x]

Is retri with 18% holy crit on head and 7.5sec cd exorcism gonna be good ? Remember we got feet rune ,that resets our exorcism cd with each crit.. I see myself next phase spamming exorcism and boosting my spl dmg ( think u can call it Shockadin then )

[@Thor_Asgard_]

Ret will loose as always... dont forget, we wont have a crowd pummler and will loose alot of exorcism dmg because of it, because they didnt make our shit stack with spell dmg. We gonna be behind as always.

[@morganfreeman5260]

@@Thor_Asgard_oh no paly isn’t the best class in the game 😂 gotta cry now

[@Thor_Asgard_]

@@morganfreeman5260 i would be ok with 10% worse than others, seems not askong for too much

[@johanlahti84]

Ima go flameshock three targets lightning shield them all and molten blast + magma and nova. Sheeeeesh!

[@cypherpunk6417]

Let's hope they don't forget about Ret now that we're not using Crowd Pummeler anymore... or at least would like to use something higher level. Lest we end up being the druids of SoD eternally bound to the Crowd Pummeler.

[@svens3722]

you paladins have it so hard.

[@joepalma8641]

I can see honor among thieves either being nerfed at launch or within the 1st few weeks or so. 1 cp basically every second is too strong

[@WDannyboy]

feral druid (cat) runes are actually so bad its insulting. might still have a spot on alliance. good luck on horde though. no way feral is brought over shaman

[@stevo6178]

In high performing groups they will

[@stevo6178]

Pugs prolly not haha

[@MrNotesofmusic]

3% crit is valuable. And WS is better than windfury.

[@johanjohannesson4746]

Runes are really bad but they are buffing us in other areas with the introduction of the druid specifik head enchantment (wolfhead effect), catnip and the set bonus for making shapeshift 30% cheaper. All togeher you can do some really impressive stuff as cat if you like power shifting. Personally I HATE power shifting and I am sad that Blizzard are supporting this janky, band aid mechanic, but it is what it is. I will probably go resto this phase, but if you are into power shifting and like managing a lot of CDs/energy ticks this is the phase for you.

[@WDannyboy]

@@MrNotesofmusic I don’t think the overall dps output of the crit buff plus the small ap bonus will make up for the difference of shaman dps. Each shaman does 30-40% more dps than a feral

[@nickjordan8996]

how long after phase 4 will the server be around

[@MichaelinaPandasuit]

Honestly I’m kind of disappointed that Glad Stance requires you to have a shield. I’ve been looking forward this especially in pvp but needing to have a shield kind of ruins it for me

[@montanamuse3617]

The tool tip you are showing for the rogue poisons says requires level 60

[@CallieAdair-pm6iw]

Yes he was explaining that the entire time he was talking about it. Did you even watch the video? He gave approximate vaules for level 50

[@cobaltmalt]

Even so it’s a dps decrease for the rogue to use it. DOA

[@montanamuse3617]

Approx. Values mean nothing if the poison requires level 60 to use as the tool tip clearly says. They may give it to us at 50 but that would be speculation against the only evidence we have on data mined info.

[@vaughnwonenberg]

10% dps decrease or 0dps done bc you arnt invites to raid…. HMMmMm

[@MoonTurky]

​@@CallieAdair-pm6iw Thats the lamest excuse for a low quality video i have ever heard

[@benellis8844]

Enhance main since vanilla here. Tank shaman will be nerfed within the first week that much passive aoe is insane when combined with fire nova rune. So will melee DPS shaman. The new ap to sp stuff is too strong for classic. I will enjoy it to its fullest while I can XD.

[@MrWiemann]

You think the mental dexterity Rune will do jackshit for you now that rockbiter was gutted?

[@bash6519]

i see you spent 0 time actually looking at the Warrior Discord. If you literally just looked at the pinned comments in Fight Club youd see Glad Warr and DW are unfortunately crapping all over 2H Arms.

[@etomu]

Doing charges on those poisons is a big design mistake.

[@Monnisti]

Steady shot wouldnt be worth even if you had a 4.0 weapon. Also lvl 50 trueshot aura is 150 attack power + 150 ranged attack power

[@yaboityler2617]

But how will it effect Pwueeeh Vwueeeh Pwueeeh?

[@lsdap1969]

Sad you didnt mention how gutted st fight will be for sham tank

[@guggen1412]

Yea shaman tank single target dmg while using shield was never an issue, did like 150dps, and now their mandatory wep enhancement is guttet because dps shaman and dual wield tanks we're abusing it. makes no sense.

[@lsdap1969]

@@guggen1412 the damage loss is not even the issue. i don't mind a setup where tanking specs do literally no damage. however they massively fucked up the ability for ST threat generation. nerfed rockbiter, scaled down molten blast. p3 for shaman tanks looks like auto attacks and lightning shield procs. rivetting gameplay and rng threat generation/damage mitigation - blizzard tuning in action

[@keldor8302]

​@lsdap1969 it gets worse, I'm afraid. As all the dragons and dragonkin in ST (new raid) have high nature resistance. So, there goes a lot of your lightning shield and maelstrom+chain lightning threat. Same thing with elemental shaman dps outside of flame shock and lava burst. This is why I've gone back to old-school 2h enhancement for the next phase. It's going to be all about those auto's and windfury procs hitting as hard as possible.

[@lsdap1969]

@@keldor8302 I'm not gonna start super dooming until live patch lands and most things are set in stone, but yea that's one of the issues that will arise. Let's not forget that diabling DW tanking they're ridding us of 10% chance to hit with spells or melee attacks. Kinda hilarious when they nerfed all the threat generators and you end up with earth shock resisting every 3rd cast or so and auto attacks that are basically 1-1 ratio with threat they generate. Literally shaman tanks will require the whole raid to "wait 5 sunders" before they can start blasting. Pugging will be fun From what i read tho dw enh dps isnt doing as bas as other specs so i guess that's what ill do this phase. Maybe p4 will have some more shammytank love

[@gold-waffles]

Gladiator stance doesn't work with just devastate to prod sword and board? Strength affects shield block value doesn't it?

[@grabeck666]

Glad stance works with devastate.

[@timhenrich5698]

Cries in bear tank and prot warri

[@rolfgautier5540]

Prot looks sick with new shield slam

[@timhenrich5698]

True but i fear it wont be enough to actually play it

[@aminuspospolitus6316]

Fck it last phase blizzard sais a tank in classic IS good if it keeps 3-4 ennemies. It was to justify why warrior sucks. Next day they give overcharged to shamans

[@Conraddean71]

Just got into SoD now, can you not get the runes from phase 1 now?

[@dunchkinsella5858]

You can

[@mitchconner2021]

These classic andy's in these comments are so fucking Jaded they will never see how good SoD is because they are obbsessed with complaining.

[@nahitsmedical]

trueshot rn is giving 100 attack power and 200 ranged attack

[@phantom0456]

@1:40 “Honor Among Beavs”… there is none.

[@curbside1071]

Winner shaman Other winners rouge warrior and pally in the order Losers spriest mage and warlock Druid seems the same

[@groweachday155]

I really do hope overcharged for shaman tanks is a thing and does well for aoe threat help too, because unlike paladin tanks that can drop concentration with unlimited targets, shaman tanks molten blast only hits up to 4 targets. I'm hoping overcharge does well for helping with more target threat as we tab molten blast, especially by end game 5mans that have more mobs in pulls at times.

[@gigacoco6990]

We were already great at aoe with magma/fire nova rune.

[@aspiringnormie9499]

Ele tank would complete me.

[@cinders9532]

Dont know why rogues would run these different poisons when its a dps loss and a shadow priest can push 1 button and have all 3 debuffs up for 2 minutes? Pvp sure can mess with plate users but pve not really.

[@99ownage9]

Maybe they will make shiv nicer 😂

[@sno0p3r]

Incursions killed dungeoning and leveling

[@johanlahti84]

You won't be fond of running into a lock in a few days.. they will be totally busted in PvP for sure.

[@stoneyrunva]

Not much hunter love this phase for ranged. Marksman... meh.

[@arthas5270]

Barley got to play phase two. Thanks Blizz.

[@geek921]

I'm really disappointed by the priest leaks so far. Glad I'm switching mains to mage.

[@jdstko1]

Cool so its the same classes are the first 2 phases

[@zoma08]

nice classic video 👍

[@easycake3251]

Rogue gets endless CPs and a flat out 20% dmg increase. What does cat get ? Oh thats right, a 5% chance on a near 50 energy spender to get 60 energy back... amazing... just... 10/10 brains working at Blizzard.

[@kparr90]

ele sham to the moon

[@mattwallace8694]

Blizzard has gone down hill fast after selling to Microsoft, been waiting on my ticket for account being hacked for over 48 hours, if i phone customer support its a recording telling me to file a ticket online or reach out to live support online, except live support has been down since blizzard fired thousands of customer support employees months ago, this company used to have pride in the products it put out and the services it provided, nowadays its just ridiculous to pay a subscription for a company that cant even pay customer service to do its basic job Blizzard only cares about money, all you need to look at to realize that is diablo immortal, and the number of employees that have been removed to make more money

[@khiryislive]

im not 40 yet

[@JaredSessi]

Honestly, buff Shamans.

[@asKiFTW]

Master Channeler gonna be 100% better

[@Rautaneito69]

But when they are going to make Feral more viable and "fun" to play in pve? or give the god damn rogues the WF for alliance.. SEASON OF SHAMANS AND CASTERS

[@dhoff82]

Glad stance is going to wreck in pve and PvP

[@seanpaterson6592]

Affliction is so far behind destro even with Crit dots and lof nerf it wouldn't make up the difference

[@AlwaysAlpha88]

I'm afraid you might be right. However the last 2 weeks because I was pvping so much I raided as Nightfall/Shadowburn and I definitely see some possibilities simply because the Nightfall/Master Channler proc rate is insane! It's going to take a lot of testing tho

[@malgeo318]

idk about that now. the LOF nerf is going to be a massive change. because its not worth the 8 seconds in a fight to even get 15 seconds of it. and it would be a straight up 40% dmg nerf in pve. With the other changes to affliction i am of the mindset that it will totally flip the meta and destro just wont be played.

[@seanpaterson6592]

@@malgeo318we also get conflag giving use a blood lust amount of haste every time we conflag, so destro will stay superior. also 40% lof damage is not 40% of your overall damage there is a lot of modifiers for damage coming from the class that its probably more like 20%, but the best destros will still run it and probably only use it before the pull for some big initial damage and have tanks pull boss into it

[@malgeo318]

@@seanpaterson6592 true we will see how it all shakes out in the end. I do think though that my uptime on is was like 98-99% and all my incinerate damage and chaos bolts will do 40% less now so not really sure but at the very least the specs will be much much closer this patch

[@Tinto2]

I'm maining hunter and im glad ranged is getting a buff, melee hunter just feels wrong haha

[@Young.Julius]

Gladiators Stance not doing dmg??Currently everyone is wondering if its going to get nerfed since it managed to do even 2k dps.Get your facts right m8

[@FrexieFrex]

Suprise suprise, rogue shaman warlock wins yet again

[@aleksandartelbis8258]

Warriors are not back, it is still trash comparing to other classes runes and etc.... maybe in sod blizz will bring them down as worst class to play!

[@peterc2672]

I'm just here for everyone crying that they aren't going to be "top parse" class.

[@brbbiobreak]

wotlk- tripe wotlk- tripe

[@kevinesco5221]

M ooo noo noooo so mage is not a list again??? Fu k no 😢

[@Norsedadgaming]

you can shutterstep the sniper training rework to have it up constantly

[@eldenanchor8179]

If this is true we'll look even more ridiculous now. Rip

[@trl2151]

@@eldenanchor8179 Dont worry you'll get live hotfix nerfed pretty fast

[@Astronic]

How does one shutterstep? Sorry im a bit a off a noob. Do you have a guide to point me too? Rly wanna get ranged hunter working this patch.

[@Djmoki1]

Just the fact you put warr as a winner made me.mad , purely from fun perspective. Where are all the fun abilities like bladestorm, shockwave, or passives like titans grip, or blood and thunder ? With blood and thunder it would at least be possible to try to play the blood frenzy rune for rage generation to cleave more in aoe ...

[@Alejandro_87]

nah, blood frenzy is F tier rune. there is still another phase so who knows. as a warrior main in sod i am quite happy in our current position knowing it we are just gonna scale up the wazoo in the coming months

[@Omega_Contagion]

Titan grip will undoubtedly be in the final phase

[@MoonTurky]

​@@Omega_Contagion So exciting, an ability we have had since original wrath i cant wait omg blizzard is so creative and original i can see where my 15 dollars a month are going yea buddy

[@Omega_Contagion]

@MoonTurky sounds like you're gettin all snarky sarcastic at the wrong person my dude. The OP was asking where the fun abilities are, like the titan grip passive. All i said was its gonna be at the end. I never said it was a good thing, or try to defend blizzards choices and clear lack of thought put into a few of the classes for this phase. If you're all butt hurt about a re-re-rehashing of a game that came out 20 years...go tell blizzard. Or dont because they likely won't take anything you say seriously. I tell ya whats really not gonna change anything, commenting here by stomping your sarcasm boots on some youtube video. If youre gonna whine like that you should probably just go play pure classic. Or turtle wow. Or ascension. Or just wait for cata classic or retail. Unsub from the game if you're concerned about your 15 dollars per month. Go get some doritos and mountain dew, that'll fuel your rage to actually go post your sass where it might actually matter. Or, again, like I said. Dont. It doesnt fucking matter to anyone, or blizzard. This "season" will be over by years end, all your characters will likely just be gone. All your farmed gold, gone. All the warlocks clutching their 1.5g summons profits, gone. All the new sets and all the ez mode raids....gone. it doesnt fucking matttteeeerrrrr. Its an experiment, and lets face...its blizzard from 2024....they are going to fuck it up even more than they already have. So again, your sarcasm, and even the OP whining about "wheres my fun buttons" either blizzard just doesnt have the brains or resources to make every class good at every step. Warriors are gonna top the meters at the end, its easier for blizzard to balance the bonkers top end classes, at the end of it all. So in the mean time, just chill. Play something else, different class, different version of wow, or unsub and whine on the forums and youtube. It doesnt matter man, you know it doesnt. Its all over in 7-9 months anyways. And looking back at that time spent, when you're all sad because its over...what sort of memories do you want to have fond recollection of? The bitching you did online because your spec wasnt OP like a different spec was? Or that in your opinion, it wasnt fun and fuck you blizzard? Or do you want to remember the times you cleared the raids for the first time with your guild, or the first rune you found on your own that you didnt instantly look up day one of a phase launch on wowhead, or the time you kited elite dragons over to some guards to finish a pre bis quest. Sure, lots of this has all happened before, and itll happen again. We're stuck in a loop of playing the same game over and over for 20 years, and its FUN! And if, for you, its not...then who cares. Go do something else. Or don't. Because it does, not, matter. Keep your stick on the ice MoonTurky, i hope you find that little slice of pie in the sky where you can say.....FUCK YOU OMEGA CONTAGION!!!! wakka wakka wakka ;)

[@Djmoki1]

@@Alejandro_87 i was not talking about scaling and dps, but specificaly about the fun factor. Imagine seeing mage getting balefire bolt or what is ir called, and then seeing warr getting bunch of passives, and the boring ones at that. Especialy when you imagine all the spells or more fun passives that could be added. Im not saying warr is bad, im saying its boring cause compared ro other classes we didnt get any interesting runes. Also i know blood frenzy is F tier, but if blizz wont buff it, at least give us tools to try something with it and make it fun

[@athends]

Why does blizzard hate paladins

[@IceTax69]

Idk man, putting ranged hunters as one of the biggest winners makes me question the validity of the whole video.

[@Xfacta12482]

The dude literally said melee would still be better

[@IceTax69]

@@Xfacta12482 the dude literally put ranged hunters as one of the biggest winners

[@colinhobbs7265]

​@@IceTax69as in improvement over previous phase

[@cactuss33ds]

​@@IceTax69i think its relative to how terrible they've been in p2. i mean, doing literally anything for ranged hunters would probably put them up as the "biggest winners".

[@phantom0456]

Are ranged hunters really that bad in SoD?

[@gmichael1986]

Glad to see more Shaman buffs as a Shaman main in SOD - we need more love!

[@Fro609]

ya no you dont lol, you guys one shot people in pvp its nuts

[@stevo6178]

As a fellow shaman main I can admit we do not I body people in pvp 🤣

[@Fro609]

@@stevo6178 as a shaman we most certainly 1 shot people all the time in pvp and are the most broken class in pvp lol.

[@stevo6178]

@@Fro609 agreed lol

[@johanjohannesson4746]

You sure do! Its not enough to be the most broken OP class. You need more love

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

I personally deleted both my Rogues. Sick of the gaslighting/hyping. I'll wait and see how they do in the first few weeks, with my own eyes. Will I be intrigued to come back before I can't restore again? Unsure. Also unsure what I'd get back of my gear, so that might call it for me depending how that goes.

[@AlwaysAlpha88]

Man Rogues have literaly been top of the WoW food chain since launch. But if you like rogue play rogue, plus you know at 60 they are strong! I don't understand people getting mad because their class isn't the best at lvl 40 or 50 because none of this will matter. And I still play with a rogue I've played with for a long time and used to get Gladiator with and he just makes people look silly in PvP so..... but seriously none of this will matter at 60. GL too ya!

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

​@@AlwaysAlpha88 Was a pretty casual rank 1300~ in Classic, 615 in Kara as a Dwarf Sword Rogue, before I ended up quitting because of GDKP trash. Ph2 in SoD, the only reason I came back was because of the GDKP ban and wanted to support it.. But it defiantly doesn't feel good being forced into a single spec. And them trying to make us go tank with Classic's janky combo point system. And no Re-direct is trash. Sorry that I'm not going to pay months of subs waiting for it to eventually get guud. Its not like were going to get all the way up to Naxx the moment 60 comes either.... It's going be slow af, just like the re-release. diremaul/mc/zg/aq/naxx would take a bit. And you never know, you know why were so weak right now? They artificially decreased our damage giving a level 40 raid, MC levels of defence/resists just because "they are mechanical". How do you know they won't do this again to just make casters shine again? At least they made it so poisons work or we could arguably be the worst class. From my TBC experience and how painful it was even as a 615 Rogue to find a guild. I know exactly why this class is currently getting gatekept hard. We bring 0 utility and mediocre damage. The only reason in Classic it was good was because we PUMPED. These changes are good, but they can't take away 20% of our overall damage(poisons) and expect utility that is barely better then a Priest/Warrior (bring even more buffs) to do anything with this trash community. I main PVE not PVP because that was ruined from premades. It's funny how much the community genuinely ruins this game for other people. Maybe they should start cleaning house and it would be a tad more enjoyable for folk. I even have a guild on SoD, just gets tiring dealing with the community. Then we could talk about the stream of bots that were haunting the stockades ph1-ph2. Can't wait to see how it looks come later phases. The bots will be doing ZG boosts before we know it. Again. This is their chance to get people like me back, but that's not going to well. And welcome to live service, where people will call trash out when they see it. I suggest not looking at OSRS because that's a game that's genuinely ran by players feedback, and they aren't gaslit into certain views either. I'll take a game I have power in, over a game with terrible devs that don't give a crap about you. You want to know what would of likely happened if OSRS had a bug like Dual Spec where you spend GOLD and it was bugged out? If they couldn't manually compensate players for the issue THEY caused, they would of done a roll-back. You know why? We would be setting up a riot in Fally and lagging their servers till they did something. Trash tier company blizz really is. Not only was it the mount gold at first, but now it's this as well? And no I didn't even buy Dual Spec, I just expect better because I know there is better.

[@nzcorona4222]

@@TheUhmmmmmmmm christ dude look at how much you just wrote. quit the game and move on if you're not having fun lol. i main rogue and im enjoying it

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

@@nzcorona4222 I could careless you think my man. it's pretty clear they are trash tier atm. Go back to sucking blizzards pp.

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

@@nzcorona4222 Go back to shillin. Could careless what you think. I played not only 1 but 2 Rogues. Since Classic. Gtfo.

[@chadbooker9182]

Nah bro what is that shaman talent build 💀 🤦‍♂️

[@ToHonorKnowledge]

All warlocks disregard the information in this video good lord

[@lolpaladins]

Your enhancement "build" is one of the dumbest takes I have EVER seen you make after watching for 3 years... No offense, but it's like you've never ever ever played a shaman before ever... and it shows. No offense intended, you usually post pretty good stuff, but that "hot take" about how enhancement shaman should play is not one of them. No stormstrike, no flurry? Improved fire totems doesn't effect our fire nova rune. Clearcasting doesn't help us do more dps, and tanks don't have trouble with mana when we have a shield on anyway. The improved totem talents are absolutely worthless... it's like 2str for 2 talent points. Improved stoneskin totem is even worse. Improved weapon totems is terrible too.

[@zepho100]

Elemental Devestation might not be a terrible idea with Flurry. I'm curious to what the tank meta will be for Shaman, I think it may well be a blend of elemental tanking which would be fun.

[@Germ4ch]

Hunter looks super underwhelming and Boring AF....

[@lennart6579]

How much misinformation did you want to spread with this video? At least put a little bit of effort into it.

[@japetox]

your warrior build is really bad bro.

[@Leenia18]

Wow....shaman sound so broken now.

[@zepho100]

For PVE. I think for PVP they'll be so squishy now, which is probably for the best.

[@Altruistic-General]

@@zepho100 ele was always good for PVP in classic/vanilla, and once you can spam invulnerability potions it’ll still be top tier. Enhance is another story entirely, still a meme in PVP.

[@zepho100]

@@Altruistic-General well enhancement wasn’t a meme in SOD with tanking runes and rolling over everyone. I’m excited for elemental shaman though, was my favorite spec.

[@TerryRosen]

lol paladins