Warcraft's IMPOSSIBLE Item | Classic WoW

[@WillEmmo]

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[@wendelinspegel2842]

Love your content but this food ad is freaking dystopian.

[@jibbsy6992]

@@wendelinspegel2842 I agree. I know the guy needs to maximize income through these ads but it is ok if the viewers don't much like them. The alternative is to just not watch anymore. Lately I've noticed that for the you tubers I subscribe to, namely WillE, ScottyJaye, Crix, Sarthe and Metagoblin the content isn't nearly as interesting. With that in mind, ads become even more annoying. I will say that Sarthe's enthusiasm and genrally positive demeanor is still infectious but the others... I am starting to look for other you tubers who provide topical content on WoW / WotLK.

[@opo3628]

No.

[@opo3628]

@@jibbsy6992 - "The alternative is to just not watch anymore."

[@mip0]

I saw one once in classic, near some crypt in eastern plaguelands. Then suddenly these characters came of nowhere, running at the lotus from different directions. It was creepy. Felt like I was in the matrix or something, and that I'd seen something I wasn't supposed to.

[@Denamic]

You probably kind of were. There used to be a lot of UI mods that used hidden chat channels to distribute information to other users with the mod. So if someone with the mod is in the area when it spawned, they could have alerted and sent the location to people who were AFKing for it.

[@Sonadourge]

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[@Danhasadog]

Do not be alarmed, you were not in the matrix. If a phone rings do not answer it.

[@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155]

I farmed them in Silithus back then on the biggest german server. All you needed was a hunter with eagle eye and a few chars with herbalism placed in the area, i also had two accounts back then, there were no ticks or addons. The hunter was also placed behind the tavern so i didn't have to wait 10 secs for logging onto the herbalism char that was on the same account. There was one china farmer hunter who did this 15h/day in Silithus and two or three other people who did it regularly, also a few clowns literally riding in a cycle 12 hours a day. Sometimes there also were bots but the good thing was that you could kite them to Ungoro down the wall where they got stuck. It was interesting watching them, they get around every obstacle these days only the walls around Ungoro could hold them back long term. There was nothing more satisfying than having your dwarf rogue already dancing on the last lotus spot when all the china farmers arrived too late.

[@raunchysquanchy8026]

@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 man this sounds like a ridiculous waste of time and like a fun vacuum lol

[@avereth]

I took over the Burning Steppes with my guild to get some lotuses once. We had a massive battle against the horde faction that normally kept it locked down. After a vicious back and forth battle across the entire zone we finally drove them out completely...only to within minutes have their alliance alts flood into the zone to contest every spawn point.

[@9volt65]

Most honorable horde player:

[@Zuwze]

Like Barnaby once said, sometimes your enemy doesn't have a red name.

[@Brownboy42069]

Quarantine was a hell of a time

[@Limrasson]

OH god. The battle part sounds fun and this is what Open World games usually lack and what I love to experience. A goal that wasn't made and set by the developers directly, but something that came organically. But then it's ruined by what Sandbox games also have and shouldn't, which is players just using the limitations of the game baing a game to spoil the fun.

[@avereth]

@Professor Thinker More like you're the dumb one; unlike you we got lotuses doing that. Forcing out the faction that controlled a zone with PVP is being driven off by every definition if they had to crawl back with inferior numbers of alliance to run around trying to contest our raid. Then I got us into the frost juju market because the profits when the items dropped per raid member made black lotuses irrelevant and funded guild provided flasks for the rest of classic.

[@chris88co]

I think the luckiest I ever got in Classic was when I was Black Lotus hunting, I had an entire night of no luck, warring with the Horde and bickering with my own Alliance, I decided to log off for the night right next to a spawn point. I logged in early the next day for a short sesh and there it was, waiting for me. Literally woke up to casually find a small fortune right in front of me. Had a great day that day

[@bigdaddykyle451]

This is a great story

[@yungsmorc6462]

What were they worth bro

[@rayven203]

I had a similar thing happen, I got DC'ed flying through Burning steppes one day on my farming alt. When I was finally able to log back in, there was a Black lotus right in front of me, and a thorium vein about 20 yards away. got the lotus, and then the vein had an arcane crystal on the first tap. Best day ever!

[@Kaairve]

I got hyped. Tell me some more great stories :)

[@haywoodjablome7822]

I used to farm the Mighty Rage potion patten in a tower in Burning Steppes. Lots of chest spawns, a couple ore spots and two potential black lotus spawns. I loved that spot. It was a good way to show me how much better my gear was until naxx where i was 1-2 hitting the mobs. Sometimes I'd even grab a world buff or two and see how much i could knock out in 2 hours. I found 3 in my entire time of farming that spot. 3 in countless hours farming that same node.

[@mistermister4816]

I did the same 😅 Farmed mighty rage when BL was on timer 😊

[@haywoodjablome7822]

@@mistermister4816 It was the best spot. Almost no competition on Mankrik us. Usally like 200g per hour depending on drops.

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[@brandonrice6959]

Yeah and then you needed a flask as DPS to parse, which required one of these lol and people wonder why everyone bought gold

[@apathy_syndrome]

@Professor Thinker It couldn't be that you guys were playing on very different times of the day. No, he must literally be blind, that's the only explanation.

[@moseyofficial5955]

Everyone forgets that in Vanilla there were herb nodes in AV (as well as land mines) that only spawned once at the start. There were a couple of Black Lotus each game. Blizzard eventually removed these nodes so that people would "PvP" in AV instead of picking herbs. We never got this in classic.

[@Mad_Cap.]

Nor that you could save the scraps from enemy corpses from AV as well. So every 5 games or so you would see a one-sided battle with the druids activating along with the tree guy and wing commander's all at once.

[@SirKanti1]

There was this one ne hunter who I had a bit of a war going on when finding these. We would be scouting silithus for hours then dashing to the herb. lost count of the time he would shoot me then lay a trap at my feet so I just watch them take ther herb. We ended up being bros after chatting on his alt. This was on Ten Storms and I miss you

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[@Moistened_Ewok]

cuck

[@dontblockthebox]

This is sweet

[@asmandria96]

I still remember the first time I found one. I will never forget how much my hands were shaking while picking it up

[@IchinShek]

The best feeling

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[@HawaiiKnut]

I saw one in Silithus while fighting a mob. I was so anxious if someone else get it before me. The other was in Winterspring. I saw it in a run while fying a wyvern. Had to instantly run there from town.

[@Zirion123]

There are some hidden spots near hillsbrad in the av zone border to wpl

[@thatrogueguy123]

The amount of hilarious and frustrating ways I got my nodes stolen in classic is an experience I will never forget 😅

[@Kilorelv]

I got mind controlled right before getting my herb while their buddy grabbed the black lotus one day

[@Hunter19915]

Trying to pick up the lotus with my slow mount when all others had epic mount..Fun memories

[@BetterYouNow]

Arguing 45 minutes with another guild rogue for jacking my Black Lotus. Spawn point I was camping for hours, he popped up and jacked me while I was fighting a mob, a GUILDIE. We went back and forth like "bro you don't do that to a guildie I've been here hours waiting for this spawn". He handed it over but was jacked up!

[@TheWarriorscat]

I remember doing a double take in EPL after seeing “Black Lotus” on my mini map. I was grinding mats for mongoose pots and thought it was a purple lotus at first. I remember my heart pounding and even more so when a farmer I had run by many times, as they walked by me mere seconds after I picked it

[@sobo5476]

I remember seeing a Black Lotus on the minimap and the adrenalin would start rushing while you picked it and scanned the camera around as these were worth fighting for. I played on Firemaw and I remember the cost of the flasks were double the cost of the Black Lotus. Gromsblood was an easy farm at Dire Maul with my Warlock, my Warlock was Herb and Mining. The Stonescale oil was easy as I just popped an audio book on and fished at night when nothing much was happening on the server. So I ended up half farming and half buying from auction house to make flasks, I make 2 Flasks and sell them, I bought 4 Black Lotus and made 4 Flasks, sold them and bought 8 Black Lotus, and so on and so on.

[@flithbrin]

Still remember a full BWL geared fury warrior chasing my druid around the entirety of burning steppes for an hour on and off every time he saw me and still never actually being able to kill me after I killed him and took his lotus. He was furious, I was hard KOS for him even though he never once managed to actually kill me.

[@drizzho]

I’ll never forget the 4 black lotus I found solo in Winterspring while horde and the Ally would camp the spawns in groups of 5, I was a stealthy rogue and got the clicks off before them and had auto loot on !!! Great memories !!! Made about 800 gold off those 4 flowers !! Easy money !!

[@alittletooloose3087]

I farmed black lotus in eastern plaguelands during classic and it was probably my favorite thing to do. The rush when you saw one, your heart rate increasing and you prayed no one else would grab it first. After the hotfix I got probably 50-100 of them just riding around the spawn points, but I was on a pretty low pop server.

[@ZblockWoW]

I only ever saw 1 Black Lotus in Classic WoW. Nobody else was around that corner of Winterspring, so I was able to pick it and sell it for over 100 gold on Horde Kirtonos US. 😎

[@pastexpiration2160]

I picked somewhere around 20 Black Lotus myself. Still really proud of that!!

[@dawuid1491]

There was actually a weekly fixed spawn of 2-3 lotus in the DM arena every Thursday (or Wednesday, it’s been a while…) at 8pm server time. Discovered it by pure chance one night and went on to research about it and experimented with camping it around the same time I first ran into it. Needless to say I made steady weekly gold in the hundreds. Shared it with my guild members who occasionally come to help me fight off the spawned bosses and occasional contenders. Such fond memories😊

[@timross1568]

There was actually 1 boss in the dm arena who when spawned would cause herbs to respond every 3 minutes if you didn't kill him. I remember going there with my guild and farming out about 70-80 black lotus. Other bosses wouldn't cause it but hey not everything has to be super beneficial.

[@dawuid1491]

@@timross1568 That apperantly used to be the case in the old days. But with classic it's at least not the case anymore. It is the same boss we are talking about - Mushgog. I have tested with my friends about the "...would cause herbs to respond every 3 minutes if you didn't kill him." theory for, well, obvious financial reason lol. Sadly it only spawns the herbs once on that fixed timer. (unlike how some suggest is on a random timer, at least in the case of classic server) You can not pick the herb, keep the boss alive, and make it spawn more lotus. Or else I would be able to help myself with abusing it, dumping a bunch of lotus on the market, making people ask question, and made it an open secret. This is one of my favourite memory from WoW classic beside my time with my two different guilds. Been able to know one secret in a 15 years old game that almost no one else knew.

[@JohnRock14]

Farming dire maul on my hunter with herb/mining was a gold mine. Good luck with arcane crystals was the icing on the cake. Was so fun also for some reason

[@4RumTezzy]

Ill never forget Christmas 2019. I didnt get any presents under the tree, but logging into my megaserver that night, everyone was off for the holiday and I got a dozen lotuses myself. Merry christmas botters lol

[@rogerdodger1984]

There was no one on a megaserver on Christmas day? Also, only one spawns per zone on a 1 hour cool down. Plus, youre saying you did this before the 2020 fix. I dont believe this story.

[@tree4104]

@@rogerdodger1984 also he doesnt specify what server when there isnt any reason not to...

[@4RumTezzy]

@@tree4104 Mankrik. Happy?

[@chestnut4860]

This is sad. Why didn't you get presents? money trouble or some personal stuff?

[@hjul3372]

Me and a couple of friends had a firm grip on burning stepps in classic. Taking 95% of the lotus spawns 24/7. We had 2-3 hunters using eagle eye rotating between spawns. Once you got the hang of using it, you can check all the spawns in less than 25 seconds. The lotus was always picked within 1 minute of it spawning and usually far less time. Yeah, I had no life but i loved it.

[@nekadpotatis]

Me and some friends did the exact same thing. Most of us had other lvl 60 alts aswell with good gear so we were more or less parked all around Burning Steppes. So we had two WoW open, one that was logged in and the other one just needing to press enter. We even used warlocks to fear us up on different locations so alliance couldn't reach our hunters. Our hunters were lvl 20-30 with only intgear and int enchants. We were hated from both hordes and alliance. I miss it.

[@jesuslovesyou-matts]

You monopolizing basterd

[@nekadpotatis]

@@jesuslovesyou-matts Gotta do what you gotta do. I refused (and still refuse) to be a bottom-tier player. Gold is important if you want to keep enchants etc rolling in. On the side I was even boosting as the mage I am. We controlled Lotuses, we had tons of gold. People could do the same but they didn't.

[@lct23]

Damn it WillE has made me start wanting to play a legacy server

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[@Ramza88]

You are welcome to the EU Firemaw-cluster! It's the most active EU cluster with several guilds clearing all raid content each week. There are Pugs for every raid and the AH and economy is really healthy. BG:s every evening. Best of all, you can actually be self-sufficient in getting your own herbs for flasks and all other consumes.

[@jvtc]

Two very rare things happen to me in vanilla. I didn't know at the time how rare these were. I found two black lotuses. I also had a rare ring drop off a regular mob out in the world. I put the black lotuses in the bank, and still had them during the wrath years.

[@mrpibb220]

I only got one once in Silithus. Right by the spawn location of that quest elite Scorpion. While picking it a druid came up to try their hand and it was such a "I can't believe I caught this" moment. Even better feeling than the other rogues I'd pvp for Rich Thorium Nodes in the Silithus Caves for Arcane Crystal. Absolute OSRS Wilderness Vibes and I wish more of that existed in MMOs

[@lawrencef7360]

I got the only black lotus of my classic alchemy career in the same spot. I was headed to AQ and swung by there looking for any other herbs that might have spawned. When I saw on my map that it was a BL I never thought I'd reach it in time but I lucked out and got it.

[@mrpibb220]

@@lawrencef7360 and thats what we live for in Classic WoW lol

[@candlestyx8517]

The devilsaur set was the best pre bis set on many classes. As a result the mafias were also controlling the devilsaur leather market and artificially inflating prices, there was even cross faction collusion going on in PvP servers. You would be very lucky to see a even a single devilsaur alive in Ungoro crater, it wouldnt be long at all before a kill squad showed up to slay you and take the spawn if you even tried to get your hands on a single piece. Human greed is just something else....

[@doopness785]

Devilsaur had much more predictable spawn locations with much shorter timers. I was able to farm all the Devilsaur leather I needed solo. Only got Ganked or out tagged like 3 times.

[@mymatemacca]

Around 2008, (BC) as a noob lvling, came across 10-20 black lotus just outside the entrance to dire maul. I didn't know what it was. But was herb mining for gold of course and picked it all. Remember it not selling of course due to BC

[@Xenbiotic]

Playing classic early on and going through all of the grinding for crystals and black lotus was really unlike anything before or since. I personally farmed 150+ crystals (50 for my druids hammer and 100 for my rogues TF) and plenty of black lotus. I played on a PvP server and had fun farming lotus with my friend as a raid geared druid/warrior or our duo rogues. Played on Whitemane.

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[@matt45678765]

We all know the lotus farmers on whitemane if you were a farmer

[@callfreaks9590]

Burning Steppes was my favorite. Picked about 5-11 a day depending on competition. The timer was put down to around 6-7 min respwn in the end in classic

[@alexweron747]

Mooport here :) I farmed a lot of lotus on my hunter in Burning Steppes. Also, it was Tauren +15 herb, also the herbing gloves(+5) and the herbing enchant on them (+5) gave a total of 325. 325 was the number you needed so Taurens with the gloves and enchant were the only ones!

[@wagyuprime]

I was Tauren Druid with herby gloves, still had the very rare fail to pick a Lotus

[@General12th]

@@wagyuprime Knowing old Blizzard's infatuation with randomness, I wouldn't be surprised if there was always a 1% chance to fail picking a Black Lotus no matter how high your skill got.

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[@christopheryoung5212]

I once saw a tauren hunter in silithus and I laughed with my friends. Why would you play *tauren* hunter. Seems subpar, honestly, especially because of hitbox issues with the deadzone. Then we both saw a lotus at the hive right near the town. We ran over and we BOTH failed twice and while we're failing, said Tauren hunter casually strolls over and yoinks it. Oh...THAT's why you play tauren hunter. LOL

[@_keerp]

My main in classic was a herbalist, and I never saw a single black lotus till around AQ launch. I think I picked maybe 3 of them until TBC came out. But needing to run through Scholo to make flasks was a fantastic feature, great memories of late night flask runs with guildies, bags full of mats.

[@MrChronicpayne]

I never saw a lotus in my entire classic career, which equated to dozens and dozens of hours running around high level zones for other various farms. In fact I wasn't even sure what they even _looked_ _like_ until near the end of my tenure, and I only saw it in a youtube video on the subject.

[@davebowyer]

The first lotus I ever came across was in EPL not far from Light's Hope Chapel, can remember the adrenaline trying to reach it without pulling mobs, only to cruelly discover I didn't have high enough skill to actually pick it. All I could do was stand there and watch as a night elf came along and swiped it right in front of my eyes. I played a druid tank and you had to put in a shift every week to make the 500G~ needed to spend on weekly raid consumes. Vids like this make it feel so nostalgic

[@bigred6464]

I had a hunter that used Eagle Eye and could scan an entire zone in about 1 minute once I got the pattern down. Once I got a lotus, or saw one get picked I started my timers and was able to farm them for the whole day. I played on a PvE server and made roughly 40k in classic just from Black Lotus sales according to my TSM tracker.

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[@ChairmanMeow1]

I found two in one day once. One in Silithus right by a hive entrance, then one right before bed when I was herb farming in EPL, it was growing outside one of the abomination houses. I went probably two months before I saw another one.

[@davidrockefeller2007]

These on wotlk are plentiful but somehow over 100g. I think there are people hoarding them for no reason just like people hoard gold and don’t spend it. It’s a feeling of accomplishment. The twink bracket that would actually use these is extremely small and as soon as cataclysm launches I’m expecting there to be less players making the 59 bracket or the av weekend where 60s can actually play no longer popping. I have a 60 mage so on ab weekends I use about 10 over the entire weekend but I’m one of the only twink casters. Most twinks are paladins or DKs so they don’t use them.

[@bigdaddykyle451]

I found 4 black lotuses during my time in vanilla classic. The first, was within literally 5 minutes of hitting 300 herbalism in the burning steppes. As soon as I saw it, I ran over, started to pick it, and had an opposing faction hunter attack me. As a rogue, I blinded him, picked the lotus, and got away. The second memorable lotus, was when I had finally succeeded in completing the benediction quest for priest in EPL, and literally as I was riding back to lights hope chapel, proud as can be of my shiny new priest exclusive staff, and I spot a black lotus ready to be picked. Couldn't have been a better time, I'd struggled a fair bit with the benediction quest and I was just so relieved to have it completed, the lotus was a nice little cherry on top.

[@NEPAAlchey]

Got lucky and picked a lotus. Got threats from our local Mafia for taking "their" lotus. Between that behavior and bots I'm glad they killed this kinda thing in TBC and onward.

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[@MewcePewpz]

playing WoW Classic as my Orc Warlock main on Skeram, the legit most heart-pounding intense moments i had was picking Black Lotus, either with nobody around frantically hoping to get it before someone showed up, or trying to take it from under someone's nose which i managed 2 or 3 times. Great change to that whole thing that Blizz made. Think i got 6 of them in the era before the droprate update

[@JayDvrn]

Hey willie, we're still farming lotus on era. You are welcome to come and compete with us for the lotus, but i must warn that it's a lot more contested now days. Before the migrations, I stayed behind in Gehennas for a couple of weeks and casually farmed myself a few stacks before transfering over to Firemaw. Now i'm regreting not having farmed more. Flasks are going for 150g-200g

[@JayDvrn]

depends on what do you understand as "Dead". For me it's not, it never was. It's was much closer to death right after the TBC release, and since then it hasn't stoped growing, with 2 big noticeable growth spikes after the fall 2021 transfers and then more recently the arrival of SoM refugees. So either it died then, and has been coming back to life, or it never died. Check out the channels of @JayTV, @morphiousTV and @Dwarflord if you wanna know more about the current state of Era. My prediction is that Era will become the most played wow version by 2025, but what do i know, I don't have a crystal ball

[@ChevyBoii850]

i had my 1st alt (HPriest) as Herb/Alc to make my mains raiding consumes an went herbing 30-45min 3-5 days a week an was able to find 10sh a week after they buffed the spawn rates, that made everyone so happy

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[@Efreeti]

I spent many nights farming the black lotus paths on my rogue, had decent luck too, perhaps due to Nethergarde Keep EU being a less populated realm.

[@andromidius]

In comparison, Frost Lotus is so common I have stacks of them on my herbalist that I'm probably never going to use. I feel there was a little bit of an overcompensation on that front.

[@General12th]

Same with Fel Lotus. Black Lotus was definitely too rare, but its future counterparts have definitely been too common and pointless.

[@Asghaad]

@@General12th its material for CONSUMABLES ... it SHOULD be readily available ...

[@josegarza122]

I farmed somewhere around ~60 black lotus playing on my hunter. I was on Ashkandi, a nearly dead server and I would log in in the morning from 5-9am cst. I kept track of the spawn times if I picked it. Some days I would own eastern plague lands, and some days I would lose out on every spawn. After I picked it I would play on another character for ~35 minutes then go back to my hunter and spam eagle eye. I had a unique spot in the center that would get me to any spawn within 2-3 clicks. I remember the excitement of seeing one; and the thrill of trying to be the first one to get to it. When I spotted the lotus, only a few times did someone pick it; one time a warrior tried but agro’d all the banshees. My hunter of course had pet and FD. And it was very often that someone would arrive after I picked it. There were hardly any hunters doing herbalism. A lot of the Chinese gold gamers/bots were mining RTV

[@Jubafree]

Bruh

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[@EdBurke37]

As a Magic: The Gathering player it only feels right that a Black Lotus is so stupendously rare.

[@Nick-jb4xi]

That is definitely why the rare herb was called Black Lotus. Back when WoW was originally made, the people who worked at Blizzard were all gamers.

[@EdBurke37]

@@Nick-jb4xi pretty much every game design studio on the planet has people in it that play Magic

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[@GSXR90]

They know what they’re doing. They pay homage to much pop culture.

[@Xendrius]

That flower costed more than a lvl 40 mount and training.

[@McBinnagin]

I saw one lotus spawn ever as a fresh 60 in Winterspring while doing part of my lock mount quest. I didn't flask much in MC, just once while my guild was progression on Rag just to contribute everything I could to help get the first kill. I didn't start flasking regularly until BWL when Firemaw gave my guild a rude awakening, thankfully DM:E runs were available somewhere around that time so that funded pretty much all of my consumes until I dropped mining for tailoring for the bloodvine set bonus. At that point I had a 60 mage I'd sell SM boosts on to fund my consumes

[@Absynthexx1]

Me and some friends weren't really a lotus mafia, we were independent contractors skimming off of established mafias. When we were lucky on rare occasions we had the zone to ourselves and stacked quite a bit of lotus. Most of the time we were racing to get the next spawn. Occasionally we had to fight. Most of the time it was toxic PMs or zone chat trying to get in our heads or discourage our efforts if we missed a spawn. I'm pretty sure those mafias were selling them for RMT. We were stacking for future raids. Good times!

[@bugmanmaster6650]

I got 5 in one night one time. Low mid pop server and me and my brother stayed up from 1am till 7 am and tracked the spawn timer in burning steppes. Missed a few but got most of them. And this was before the spawn point buff. Good memories

[@TheBlaert]

In Burning Steppes I always saw one Paladin running around gathering them. Quite literally every time I logged on any toon he was running around. I farmed 3 in total in EPL.

[@Kreege]

I remember in nov 2019 when the battlegrounds were added, almost everyone was grinding BGs. Myself and a few guildies completely neglected the pvp grind and instead embarked on the lotus grind. Because everyone was busy locked away in battlegrounds, and also because of the holiday season, the Lotus zones were pretty much deserted for a couple months. We used the hunter eagle-eye trick and we each had 2 lvl 60 herbalists, so we were able to lock down both silithus and burning steppes. We were able to get probably 90% of the lotus that spawned in those zones between nov-january. Once people were finishing their pvp grinds and it became apparent to the average player just how valuable lotus were going to be, competition for them spiked hard in late january and we couldnt get them nearly as easily anymore. Once we started seeing dozens of lvl 1s in the lotus zones a month or two later we knew our lotus days were over. Regardless, I was able to build up a stockpile of 350 lotus during those months and never had to farm gold for the rest of classic after that.

[@Zo_So96]

I'll always remember routinely having a buddy of mine come to burning steppes right where the dragonkin elites are next to the ramp going up to Blackrock Mountain. That was one of the BL spawn spots and I'd have him run in on his mount and aggro the mobs so I could pick it. Good times.

[@WeatheredPeach]

I played on a pretty small sized server, while also being able to stay up late at night to play as I was studying at the time. So even before the changes I managed to farm more lotuses than I personally needed for my raiding by running around winterspring, and switching over to Felwoods when waiting for a respawn. Really relaxing, but I can see how crowded servers this would have been impossible. (Think Hydraxian Waterlords (EU) prices for Fel Lotus stayed around 40g a pop until the few months before the change when the raiding scene was growing.)

[@icarii9366]

I farmed well over 100 of them. Key was to be on in the early morning between 1am and 6am. Some nights you'd get lucky and get the timer on 2-3 zones. Once you had the timer on picking one, your chances significantly increase. Many nights I could net 3-4 Black Lotus. It def helped to fuel my main character, but I farmed on a mage alt.

[@anitabonghit266]

This and devilsaur leather are the main thing to make you push to max level the fastest. The quicker you can farm it before the majority of players are able to the more g you will have plus you don’t have to worry about farming for later on.

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[@kangax]

Classic truly is the best iteration of WoW - true gaming and power to the real players

[@scoopw]

i farmed lotus in classic, spent at least 1k hours solely doing so. each zone spawn was independent so they could spawn at the same time, only 1 per zone, they were initially on timers that allowed them to spawn 45min-1hr15min after being picked, so there was a 45min window where it would not spawn then 30min that it would spawn. each zone had roughly 18-25 spawns in them. successfully picking was dependent on 2 things basically, if it spawned near you, and if you were looking fast enough. you'd use a hunter with eagle eye macro to chain it across zone and your minimap with herb find on would show it. tauren had 100% pick chance, and it was extremely frequent that multiple ppl would show / fight over lotus at the same time. if you got the pick they sold at some point on some servers for 200g, with multiple char across multiple zones this was the best gold farm in the game. it was incredibly rewarding and i miss it. this then got patched later in the game i want to say during middle / late phase 5 (AQ) to where the timer was now random 10-60min, with potential for multiple to spawn in that window. ive never seen 2 spawn at one time, but i have seen them spawn quite quickly. it honestly made farming more difficult and tedious bc with old timers it was more predictable, and new timers forced farmers to search more frequently for them. posting this to help out gigachad farmers next fresh

[@mbarker_lng]

I remember stumbling over one in Silithus but wasnt a herbalist. I ran a 'on the spot' auction in global chat and made 40gp selling its position. This was when 40gp was a lot of money. Good times. :)

[@Soril2010]

During the first month after release on my smallish server Lotus were about 20g, Arcane Crystals were 50g and Thorium bars 15g a stack. I was mining up to 250g an hour in Silithus as a rogue before it got popular and buying Lotus/ele earth/water/fire etc with the profit.

[@UItro]

The very first lotus I saw was in the crypt in EPL, but my herbalism was not high enough to pick. Saw plenty that disappeared as soon as they spawned and I only ever picked one. I'll never forget it, 5am in northern winterspring. I didn't have my +herb gloves on so I failed 2 picks in a row as a tauren. My heart was beating out of my chest I thought I'd get ganked or have it stolen from me. Think they were going for 350g back then. I never sold it or used it to craft anything, just kept it as a trophy.

[@luswrld]

Waking up at 4am because I had work at 9, I would farm herbs for up to 3 hours in EPL. I recall at times getting up to two herbs per morning. Some days were dry, can't expect to get lucky forever.

[@leftyfourguns]

The most fun thing about all this is that none of it was REQUIRED to clear any content in the game.

[@SplashPhantom]

Black Lotus... I managed to grab one of those when I last played by a sheer fluke. And I sold it on the auction house for 300g (started a bid at 70 with my server's economy) Somebody was really desperate to flask it. I'm not complaining. That herb financed a good chunk of my epic mount. Sometimes you really luck out.

[@solame10101]

I remember farming silithus with my guild probably for the aq gates quest, and one spawned next to me. Not being a herbalist i just mentioned it to them and the guy who got to pick it gave it to me

[@phylo4113]

I only ever picked up 1 black lotus in classic. As I was channeling a sneaky hunter popped up and engaged me. I threw up all my dots and mindblasted while kiting. He killed me and I freaked out.. it was so close. I stood there a moment after ressing and said ima head back and haunt this hunter. Turned out he died to my dots along with some helpful mobs so I got back just before he did and took my prize. Ive never had an adrenaline dump like that in a game before! Epic

[@rogermwilcox]

In early Vanilla back in the day, it was even worse: Black Lotus was BIND ON PICKUP. Which means not only did you need 300 Herbalism to harvest it, your Herbalist HAD to also be your Alchemist.

[@xynaptic]

During the later stages of classic it got so bad with the prices and the lvl 1 bots on my server that our guild resorted to creating our own "cartel" in epl. Guild members who wanted could join, we had a shared timer, people were responsible for checking 2-3 spawn points. It wasn't a fun time or a flawless system, but it sure was better than the feeling of having to fork up 200-300g for a lotus sold by known bot-cartels. Luckily Blizzard added the change to how lotus spawned not long after we resorted to this method, it was probably one of the best changes they did during classic.

[@ca5298]

There was 3 things that gave me a huge adrenaline pump back in classic Getting WCB as an alliance player, Getting Songflower with full world buffs, and seeing a black lotus on your minimap

[@Blackadder75]

the only time I saw a black lotus on the minimap was when I was flying from EPL to IronForge or a similar route.... But I would often see them in actual vanilla in the wild... back in 2005. But my warlock was a miner-engineer so I could never pick them, just give the coordinates to the guild, in case somebody was nearby

[@SoreWristed]

I used to have a bank account that was initially used to just manage auctions for other characters but never made a lot of money with it. Until I managed to save up enough to buy a black lotus under the price, which I resold mildly above price, rinse and repeat. I eventually got hate messages for doing it, which got pretty graphic, so I cashed out at 2000 gold, which was still the most gold I had ever seen or even knew what to do with.

[@Sunshrine2]

Was on Low Pop server - only our guild survived till TBC. Have picked a few Black Loti (haha). Still ruffled some bots feathers.

[@biglookdog]

Used to farm black lotus with one of my guild mate. One of us would camp eastern kingdom and the other one would camp kalimdor We would log into our alts that were placed at each of the possible spawn points There would only be 1 black lotus in either eastern kingdom or kalimdor per 60? 30 minutes? I am not sure So basically two of us had almost all the black lotus on our server back in the days

[@ACStortz]

I saw one and only one in all of Classic. On my way to a Strat run I saw one spawn just NW of Lights Hope. A Horde player was on it quick and I got the “gank” kill. I don’t blame them trying to finish the picking timer but it almost ensured me the victory.

[@ABurntMuffin]

I made over 40k gold legitimately back in classic camping the vale in EPL in between 2 spawns and picking that and plaguebloom as often as me working at home allowed. It was a wonderful time, made rivals of many horde rogues on my server. After a certain amount of time they stopped contesting me at all and started camping other spawns. :)

[@Kmmlc]

I had a time in Classic where I was sapping and blinding a couple of mobs to get a Black Lotus and a mage came in and tried stealing my node. I just hit vanish, let the blind hit him and took the node anyways. I had to ignore him eventually because the abuse became so bad.

[@tmg1993]

Please keep making these classic videos!

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[@nathanielshaw5460]

During lockdown and whilst “working from home” I spent most days farming these for hours on end. I also farmed Jazzrik in the Badlands for Bloodsail Exalted. Miss those days now I have to go back to work. Sigh.

[@sabertoothjenkins6560]

I got 2 prenerf during raid nights on a weekday. Worked for me on Earthfury. Everyone's stories here are a nice read. Thanks for the vid Willie!

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[@loiuhuiygny7guyguiygk]

the way i farmed black lotus throuh classic was i just put my rogue afk on a spawning spot, every 30-60 mins a new flower would spawn, by the time i finished work i usually had 3-6 BL. It is a shame they never did something like BL again, i really liked that concept of an ultra rare flower and made farming more fun

[@apocalypselemon2209]

I got one once waling to strat. I've probably never been more excited in my life.

[@sthstdmn]

During Covid, I spent lots of time running the quickest routes in every zone for the lotus. Adding other herbalist and tracking enemy herbalists to see who might have control of a spawn timer. Through out my time played I picked over 200 lotus(as well as thousands of each max level herb) as a warlock. My guild labeled me herbgod. 🤣

[@whoopsie321]

having no life and herbing at like 5 am wielded me some nice results plus also logging out on my tank/healer in dire maul arena to see if the rares/herbs spawned netted me some goodies too.

[@Chapelnid]

The top guild on our Classic server had the Silithus lotus on lock. Each spawn had a level 60 camping it 24/7. "Commitment."

[@HawaiiKnut]

I only found ever found two. One in Winterspring and one in Silithus. One was used for a Herbalism bag and one for Gurubashi Mojo Madness. I never used flasks in classic because they were too expensive because of those.

[@patg14]

When pushing 4 horsemen, sapphiron and kel'thuzad in vanilla, we would flask, pot, multiple world buff and probably more I can't remember.

[@burningisis]

I never remember in vanilla the difficulty of getting black lotus. Probably with the minmaxing that happened with Classic you'd have a worse time, but I would make a lot of flasks back in vanilla for my guild and never had these problems. And I was on a high population server. My biggest problem was finding someone with a scholomance instance that I could bounce into to make flasks.

[@DamenJoost]

I saw 1 Black Lotus in Classic. I also saw the goldfarmer pick it up as soon as it spawned. Flask prices, together with World Buffs, were the biggest downsides to Classic for me. 300g per flask in Naxxramas. Maybe affordable if your guild blows through the raid in 1 sitting, but my guild needed 2-3 evenings to progress there and I was broke within 2 resets.

[@metalguard4]

I made enough gold off lotus to be extremely comfortable for all of classic. Fairly early on I decided to dominate Winterspring. Before the quality of life changes there would only be one lotus per hour +-15 minutes. I would perch up on a high spot and utilize farsight and continuously scan the spawns during the spawn window. I had a 90% chance of getting the lotus and would get 7-13 per day. Others took notice then started using alts with Eagle eye which was superior. It got so competitive I made a agreements with alliance to share the zone if they killed the Alts camping the zone. The player generated content was amazing.

[@MythenAkte]

ich hab mal 2 hintereinander gefunden in den östlichen Plaquelands, das war so krass damals :D

[@maatheru3685]

Probably picked like 10 over the course of classic. Almost all of them randomly while heading to raid. Helped out getting my lionheart helm a lot.

[@spooky_zen]

gather was fun in earley vanila it could be an adventure and it could befrusturating af too but the world felt alive the market was strong.

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[@Djmorton-go5mt]

Just love having your videos on in the background. Thanks for the fun content sir.

[@TheCucumbear]

When world pvp hit and I was camping DME for honor on my druid I was able to get 2-3BL each time the boss was spawning, that was awesome!

[@Falcrist]

*Vanilla:* Flask + Greater Arcane Elixir + Elixir of [ELEMENT] Power + Brilliant Wizard Oil = *_261 SP and 1% crit!_* (and we haven't even started talking about world buffs yet) Warlock Phase 1 BIS had 500-550 spell damage and 8% crit. So this constituted something like a 50% buff. Full consumes and buffs was like a 130% total buff. *TBC:* Flask + Brilliant Wizard Oil + food = *_139 SP and 0.6% crit._* Phase 1 BIS had 800-850 spell damage. So this constituted something like a 15% buff. And there are NO WORLD BUFFS now! Vanilla classic consumes/buffs were almost 10x more powerful than TBC. Even in wrath we don't have a flask as strong as what we had 20 levels ago.

[@bakeryclerk7434]

i dont remember having too much trouble scooping those up.

[@MaggotBrainiac]

On Pyrewood I used to circle Silithus and probably managed to pick 200 or so, the gold from this kept me going well into Classic TBC. I had them stolen by pesky Alliance players but also stole from them, it was incredibly competitive and any etiquette went out of the window. However, I personally never stole from fellow hordies. Some of the spawns had nearby mobs that had to be killed or cc'd to get the lotus, this was a huge window of opportunity for other herbers and definitely got the heart pumping!

[@samkerr6029]

I had a rage moment when I found one in WS after hours of searching only to get sapped by a rogue when I was a split second from picking it. Playing on a daily basis still only got me one or two per month.

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[@haldir108]

I enjoyed one aspect of the expensive lotus: the guild effort to make guild-gold, to be spent on flasking key players (tanks). (Flasking the tanks lets them use more threat-focused gear, greatly improving the damage ceiling, and fun, of the best DPS players) The fantastic rewards made it a functional necceccity, so the guild made a joint effort to support our tanks with flasks. The community and cooperation being a nigh necceccity for performance is maybe a little frustrating, but it's the good kind of friction, the type that brings people together, which is what MMOs are about. Something being frustrating and hard to do alone is a wonderful thing.

[@CartoreAOS]

I farmed black lotus in classic as a shaman. Using far sight to check all the spawns and running to them. Them bots parked their characters at all spawns and made it harder.

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[@Frostgnaw]

I picked 3 black lotus in my time on the OG classic vanilla servers. That's how rare it was; I can remember exactly how many I picked.

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[@Kpaxlol]

I've found many black lotuses. Even on popular private servers before classic wow of blizzard, where it was the old black lotus system. You just have to keep circling. And when you did.. oh boy it felt GOOD.

[@hxdcm]

Somehow I knew it was black lotus before clicking on the video despite not seeing the icon for over a decade. In vanilla they were actually pretty regular to find (rare but not ridiculous)... usually got them in winterspring. Did a rotation through there and felwood (for demonic runes and herbs) for countless hours back in the day in late 2004/2005... maybe there just wasn't as many bots back then since people got banned for it pretty regularly and GMs were pretty great...

[@Ztygs]

In all my time playing Classic even on a much less sweaty and smaller PvE server, I only ever saw 1 lotus out in the world and it wasn't up for more than 20 secs before being grabbed. It was even after the increase in spawnrate Blizz did.