Win Games on Turn 1 With This New Combo

This combo can just straight up win the game on turn 1 - and I'm gonna show you everything you need to know about it
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[@VHSdraws]

Really liked seeing your process of making it, tho I wish we saw it more tested!

[@hidekusai]

you should do a tcglive gameplay with this weird deck

[@liamsmusic8708]

I have been using it in a grasspon deck with 4 e switch and Crispin that can power radiant Charizard up t1 or ogrepon wellspring

[@timdanklin]

That's insane 👀 Are you playing Ogre's Mask too? I love this idea!!!

[@jareddroll8846]

Monkey has been a personal favorite little guy , no one else has ever given him any love

[@timdanklin]

Gotta be one of my absolute favourite cards to cook with, gonna be so sad when he rotates 😭

[@jareddroll8846]

@@timdanklin most recently id been using him in a poison Klawf deck to go first turn secret box

[@noodletornado309]

It isn’t a monkey. It’s an oni/demon or and ogre. Not sure how you could confuse that considering that his counterparts are a monkey a dog and a pheasant.

[@jareddroll8846]

@@noodletornado309 you're so wrong you don't even have the right pokemon to be wrong about

[@VaultBoy-kz6ed]

But the attack says u have shuffle 3 energy so DTE wouldn’t work

[@CALIGS]

vic unfortunately went 75 out of 79 the next day btw, 0-4-0 same deck. The base deck used is inconsistent for sure if it’s going 6-2-0 then 0-4-0 a day later. That is just the heart of the cards sometimes though lol, especially in this meta - either day could’ve been a fluke. It lost to Regi, Bolt, Pult, then Palkia before he dropped. However, that doesn’t say anything about your refined version at all, with your accolades in real tourneys I really trust this revision a lot, and I’m hopeful these improvements make this standout more because this looks really fun to play! Awesome video and workshopping! New sub for sure.

[@CALIGS]

I’m glad you have a channel btw, you always place well in your Aussie Regionals, it’s great to have real talent showing the ropes to others. Thank you for taking time to post theory and workshop these things on video. This helps with understanding how decks are built, before people just copy paste the same list from the internet with nearly no changes and it’s all you ever seem to play against in online play haha. Congrats on 1k!

[@timdanklin]

Genuinely thankyou so much!! It really means a lot to hear this - these kind of comments fuel my motivation to make more content and help others learn, improve and think about the game 🫡

[@CALIGS]

@@timdanklinthat’s great! I think you’ll do some solid numbers, this community desperately needs more competition players doing deck breakdowns. At this time it seems Azul and LDF are the only two tourney players that really dive into deck theory or showing anything. I’m sure there are more I’m forgetting. Azul sticks close to meta due to his position, LDF shows great bad deck Fridays for some rogue content, this is cozy in the center. I like a deck that practices good theory and has consistency, but is “off-meta” lol, I’m glad there is more room to play in the current F sets. Im hoping to run a few hours of practice on Live and see if the Greninja version of this is as fun as it is in my head haha. I’m excited to test it!

[@MikeJones-xg2bm]

THAT THUMB NAIL IS HILARIOUS😂😂😂

[@snittykins]

No way timdanklin the Mii sword fighter has shown up on my recommended

[@nerdcoregaming6468]

You post the silliest stuff and it pisses my locals off. Bless.

[@johnathansilva2823]

I love Oranguru V. I've been playing it in so many decks, and nobody ever plays it.

[@XanXinGames]

Playing oranguru v with rotom vstar was such fun in expanded

[@eatenalive9079]

You totally had me with you until you just tried to fit this donk package in already meta decks. I would have loved to see a nice original wellspring ogerpon deck. 😅 nonetheless i love your approach on deckbuilding and your content, keep it up!💥

[@timdanklin]

The third deck list I showed off is an original take with a solid focus on Wellspring Ogrepon - but it was quite hard to come up with a deck entirely focused on just this concept, would love to see one if you come up with something 👀

[@eatenalive9079]

​@@timdanklini tried so many different (mainly) controllish decklists with it and know how fragile it is this is why I hoped to see it work in some way. I haven't tried a hardcore "combo" approach though and your video definitely makes me want to go deckbuilding with it again. 😊

[@Digital_Her0]

That's some spicy to greninja. I like it

[@OhHeyMarc]

I can see this package helping the new Lapras ex have some legs to stand on, and I can even see it working in Lugia Vstar.

[@PokeTechTCG]

I was able to fit this into a palkia build and won 4/5 games on the ladder. It took me until the 5th to get a deck that it would work on though. First few decks were drago and bolt. Then I hit zard and donked them. Cool video! Pokémon: 11 3 Origin Forme Palkia V ASR 39 1 Bidoof CRZ-GG 29 1 Lumineon V CRZ-GG 39 2 Hoothoot TEF 126 PH 2 Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 213 1 Squawkabilly ex PAL 247 2 Noctowl SCR 115 1 Fan Rotom SCR 118 3 Origin Forme Palkia VSTAR ASR 40 1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46 1 Bibarel CRZ-GG 25 Trainer: 16 2 Boss's Orders RCL 189 1 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TWM 223 1 Rescue Board TWM 225 1 Town Store OBF 196 2 Iono PAL 254 1 Super Rod PAL 276 4 Nest Ball SVI 255 2 Earthen Vessel SFA 96 4 Irida ASR 147 2 Night Stretcher SFA 61 1 Capturing Aroma SIT 153 1 Switch MEW 206 3 Area Zero Underdepths SCR 174 4 Ultra Ball BRS 186 1 Colress's Tenacity SFA 87 1 Sparkling Crystal SCR 142 Energy: 3 7 Basic {W} Energy SVE 3 2 Basic {W} Energy Energy 47 PH 2 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151 Total Cards: 60

[@timdanklin]

Love to hear it!! Yeah obviously we can't donk EVERY deck, but it's sick that you managed to hit it on the zard player 😎

[@marianorodriguez6495]

Great job bro! I really like your thinking process. It’s refreshing to see people exploring different strategies instead of the same boring meta decks, keep it up!

[@timdanklin]

Thanks!! I really do love hearing this kind of positive feedback - I'll be sure to keep making videos about these kind of interesting off meta concepts 👀

[@primej485]

This is actually a very well made video! I have been wanting to break down a lot of techs and line of play to my friends to teach and improve them on how to play the game, but sometimes I feel like teaching a whole deck after another is too much / exhaustive and sometimes it gets repetitive. A specific combo guide that explains the core mechanic that can be applied to a whole bunch of decks and scenarios like this is really efficient. Thumbs up 👍

[@timdanklin]

Thanks mate!! This is really great to hear - I'd love to make more videos on specific combos or techs in the future

[@noahpparentreason1581]

Does torrential pump still work by only shuffling back the double turbo as it requires you to shuffle 3 rather than up to 3?

[@noahpparentreason1581]

Nvm read the other comment

[@stupidhatmanjoshua7640]

I thought the official ruling was that you had to shuffle 3 energy regardless of sparkling crystal?

[@cajasp2]

yes you have to shuffle 3

[@PokeDangDeals]

What do you think of playing this package into Luxray EX or is that too spicy?

[@timdanklin]

Sparkling Crystal doesn't fit in too well, but you already play DTE - I'd say give it a crack! It might be surprisingly good 👀

[@ferzap4c]

🤯 omg I’m going to try it out. Thanks Tim 🙏

[@timdanklin]

Keen to hear how it goes!! 🫡

[@MrAnon89]

Manaphy good job bro. You are also reliant your opponent not starting more than 2 benched pokemon you going second low hp.

[@Stranaa]

2 away from 1000 subs well done!

[@Kevin-vh6nn]

1.27k!

[@hiddenmosaic]

I have tried the Oranguru in my Rotom VSTAR deck because it makes ultra ball an out to seal stone. It ended up being a liability though.

[@fulfire1]

you can't use the effect of dealing bench damage cause you are not shuffling 3 energy, if is possible in tcg live, is a bug

[@teriyakinoodle6167]

Welp I'm tweaking my greninja list now 😅😅

[@shikabaneconga]

no decklist?? in copy paste format?

[@Kevin-vh6nn]

its not that hard, 99% of current meta decks already use the same repeat 35 cards.. adding 25 takes 10 mins

[@meep7779]

I played it in miridon and it was strong. It almost allowed me to beat a band matchup but I did not hit an E gen the entire game

[@uwotm8776]

In 6 games so far ive had one of the cards for this combo in the prizes. I pulled it off once and they had 2 heavy basics out so it didnt do anything 😂

[@mownta]

can someone link the card list please?

[@icecream405]

alternate title: nobody likes playing with me because I dont allow them to play the game

[@MB-km3br]

Aaaaand... your Enemy is raging bolt

[@Milo_Malo]

any updates with a list?

[@ivbremkinjardii5713]

Jokes on you I play big boys.

[@augustdunnihoo]

pokemon just aint fun when it is a turn one turn two game. rip the format and the idea of having comeback cards when players can use those comeback cards while in the lead.

[@luisangelperez9469]

If you read the card, thsi doesnt make any sense

[@FrightFur]

How are you returning 3 energy into the deck?

[@timdanklin]

The way it works in Pokemon is that you fulfil as much of the effect as possible - so you just return the double turbo energy and you still get to use the rest of the attack

[@asWerty5040]

@@timdanklin I don't think that is how it works, because it specifies that to do damage to the bench you have to shuffle energies

[@timdanklin]

@@asWerty5040 Yeah you do have to shuffle the double turbo energy - but you don't need a third energy - pokegym.net/2024/08/30/stellar-crown-faq-sv07/

[@timdanklin]

It's not the most intuitive interaction - but it's definitely how it works, which is great cause the combo is really fun ☺️

[@borodkro]

​@@beastboyrockerThat is what it should be but it isn't. They made an exception for it

[@cjakabuck90]

Played against this deck/combo first thing this morning on ladder ... Thankx

[@metalhead684]

Decklist???

[@MrDino023]

Im just starting to play PTGC after like 20 years, however, correct me if I'm wrong, this is turn 1 win if you are 2nd? Because, as far as I'm aware, you cant attack, use supporters or attach energys if you go first correct? Or am I missing something?

[@timdanklin]

Yep, you would have to be going second to attack on your first turn - when you go first you can't play supporters or attack on your first turn (unless stated otherwise) but you CAN attach energy ☺️

[@MrDino023]

@@timdanklin got it, thank you!

[@gamingwithluca5359]

what if sparkling crystal is in your prizecards?

[@omegaplayr4787]

GG

[@jareddroll8846]

using your ogerpon crystal idea and putting it in the turbo 4 dusknoir terapagos

[@jareddroll8846]

Pokémon: 12 1 Dusclops SFA 19 1 Pidgey MEW 16 3 Hoothoot TEF 126 4 Duskull SFA 18 1 Hoothoot TEF 126 PH 4 Noctowl SCR 115 1 Fan Rotom SCR 118 1 Terapagos ex SCR 170 1 Iron Bundle PR-SV 58 3 Dusknoir SFA 20 1 Pidgeot ex OBF 164 1 Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 64 Trainer: 12 4 Ultra Ball PAF 91 4 Rare Candy SVI 191 1 Counter Catcher PAR 160 1 Sparkling Crystal SCR 142 4 Night Stretcher SFA 61 1 Colress's Tenacity SFA 57 4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TWM 223 1 Arezu LOR 153 4 Nest Ball SVI 181 4 Area Zero Underdepths SCR 174 1 Switch SVI 194 PH 1 Boss's Orders RCL 154 Energy: 2 4 Double Turbo Energy ASR 216 4 Jet Energy PAL 190 Total Cards: 60

[@timdanklin]

That's pretty sick!!!! Have you missed having a way to search out crystal on turn 1? Or is noctowl enough?

[@jareddroll8846]

@@timdanklin focused on turn 1 and relying on Noctowl at least on that build. Maybe you are right and there is a way to still pull off the turn 1 going 2nd to beat the mirror ? I'm struggling a bit with turbo 2nd two prize decks too

[@christopherxgordon]

I'm confused. How does this work? Wellspring Ogerpon states that you have to shuffle 3 energy cards back into your deck to get the 120 bench damage. It is worded very specifically that you have to shuffle in 3 energy cards. If you attach a crystal and DTE, then that's only 1 energy card thereby making it impossible to get the bench damage benefit. Am i just dumb and missing something obvious? Is this meant to be satire? I'm seriously very confused.

[@timdanklin]

You aren't dumb, it's just not super intuitive - in Pokemon you fulfil as much of the effect as possible, so it will actually work after you shuffle in just the DTE (assuming that is your only energy)

[@chasesmith4273]

@@timdanklinthis still doesn’t make sense. The effect states “You may shuffle 3 energy attached to this Pokémon into the deck. IF YOU DO, this attack also does 120 damage to one of your opponent’s benched Pokemon. Even the DTE is just 2 energy. It doesn’t fulfill the requirement of 3 energy. If you don’t have the 3 energy to send you can’t just send 2. If it said “up to 3” then it would be different.

[@chasesmith4273]

@@timdanklinseems like this is just a case of “this card was printed terribly so Pokémon just said this is how it works even though it goes against the actual rules of the game”

[@chasesmith4273]

@@timdanklinby this “fulfilling the requirement as much as you can” rule, we should be able to use cards like Ultra Ball or Superior Energy Retreival with one card in hand because you are “fulfilling as much of the requirement as you can”.

[@cajasp2]

it doesn't say 3 energy cards it says 3 energy, DTE counts as 2, but yes, it has to be 3 energy, still can't haha

[@ChumpyGames]

I am immediately booting up PTCG Live to try out this build

[@vanlee1700]

Deck list plz

[@timdanklin]

There are a few different lists in the second half of the video ☺️

[@vanlee1700]

@@timdanklin but i still want it here

[@vesperianstar]

I'm already playing Palkia with Greninja. Since the deck runs very little supporters, but a lot of Items and Greninja, I already run Colress. I already run DTE since I play both Colress and Greninja already. I could literally just put an Ogerpon in there and switch Catcher for Crystal, maybe 1 Town Store. Palkia can even recharge the Ogerpon if necessary. The deck also runs the Dusk Line.

[@timdanklin]

This would definitely be cool to try out!!! It'd give the deck such a nice turn 1 attacking option when you have to go second

[@vesperianstar]

@@timdanklin That's exactly the thing. The deck is gas but has no Turn 1 attack to put the pressure on going second. I'll be testing it and seeing how it goes.

[@mercury2c]

​@@vesperianstar if you end up liking it could you please send me your deck list? Thanks!

[@vkraven]

So how do i shuffel 3 energy back in my deck if i only have 1 doubleturbo ?

[@timdanklin]

In Pokemon you fulfil as much of the effect as possible, so you shuffle the DTE in and it still works

[@heirsolo08]

But shufflng the energies is not an after attack effect, it is a required condition for the attack. So wouldn't be invalid?

[@JetfireQuasar]

@@heirsolo08 It's legit you only need to shuffle the DTE, it a loop hole over the word 'May' if it read 'You Must' it wouldn't work

[@GetInTheRing777]

New to the modern game, this is awesome

[@corryboy8570]

Would like a deck list for this

[@kilpatrrick]

Oh this guy thinks he's slick I didn't forget about the ditto video 🤌🤌🤌