Winchester Model 94 Comparison

[@terrencethorn9237]

My dad gave me his '94 for my birthday a few years before he died. I thought it was an almost new gun and because Winchester had recently stopped making them, I cherished it. This was in 2008. Before he died I asked him about it and he said, " you fired it as a boy when you were seven" and he was issued it when he worked for FDIC. That would have been in 1957- 1958. Any "94 is a fine rifle, regardless of when it was made but my '55 is a family member and will always be. Thank you, Dad.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Terrence, My Dad died when I was a young man. In my sorrow I read in a book by a Greek philosopher that when someone dies they are not gone, they've just gone on ahead. I've always liked that. As a hunter I think of a trail in the forest. And what a great gift - a Model 94 from the best times in their manufacture. Such a great Dad. I'm sure you'll meet again. The very best to you.

[@ptrickuno]

The hole in the hammer is threaded and there is a little pin with stippling that you can screw in from either side for your thumb to manipulate the hammer easier.

[@JB-wr2lx]

It’s for an extension if you mount a scope

[@redtobertshateshandles]

And slow down the lock time even further..

[@mqa1963]

i have had a truck load of 94s down threw the years. iv never had one that didn't shoot . never a fail of any kind . My fav. rifle of all.. i only have 1 now. it was made in 74. THEIRS NEVER BEEN A BETTER FEELING RIFLE IN HAND. Thanks for sharing . i always enjoy your vids..

[@terrymcpeak452]

What year did they make a 94 32 Winchester

[@rjwintl]

my Marlin model 1895 (bought in 2012 ) does NOT cycle the next round like the butter-smooth action of my Winchester model 94 ( bought in 1976 ) ... best thing is not to shoot any sabot-type cartridges and stick to the old-style flat -nose rounds ... just sayin'

[@JD5133]

I just picked up a 94, made in 74 for 300 cash! It'll always be in the family probably pass it down to my oldest son.

[@mqa1963]

@@JD5133 that's great . Congrats. Good deal.

[@iiidamannn]

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[@swkohnle08]

Hi Mike, this is probably the third or fourth time watching this video on the 94. Over the past 3 months, I have purchased a 1952 model 94 in 30-30 and just last week, a pristine 1946 in .32 WS and both shoot fantastically. Both are accurate and smooth shooting. I am really enjoying the hunt for interesting rifles and shotguns and I have you to thank for this fun hobby. I plan to take the 1952 Deer hunting later this fall. Thank you as always for the informative content. Cheers

[@rodneymcdermott5303]

Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this video. You discuss it and rate it for what it is meant to be. A simple, affordable, utilitarian rifle that has its own beauty and aura. I have an early 70’s model in 32 ws. Never failed me ever. Great gun. And great video 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@stevenkennedy4130]

Just picked up one of these. Made in 1968, & never fired. In 30-30 Win. Payed $650 for it. Thanks for your great content!

[@Gaelztorm]

I found one thats from 1968 in the woods last week up in Nakusp B.C. Stock is completely rotted off but everything else is almost intact and possibly functionable. Replacing some pins and that lower receiver thats badly corroded. Apparently thats part of the cheaper redesign they made in the 60's. if all checks out I might bring it in to a Gunsmith to see if the Barrels any good. Would be sweet to have it working if not im more then happy with a display piece.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

@@Gaelztorm Wow! That's pretty cool!!

[@jamesgreen7656]

I enjoy your videos. .I had two mod.94s. Gave one to my son.. I took deer with mine..my son took his first deer with the one I gave him.. I do like guns made by men who took pride in their work. ..These .The older ones especially are fine piece's of American work...tools and art...I agree. .you sir are a wealth of knowledge.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you for the good words. Everything you write about the 94 is perfect. Great Dad - to give such a fine rifle to his son and now he has a deer as well - doesn't get much better.

[@sonnygunz9207]

I have a couple model 94’s. One made in 1961 & one made in 1946, both are 30-30’s. I’ve never had an issue hitting what I’m shooting at with either one. I shoot at some very small targets at times too. I’ve actually never shot groups with either rifle on paper. I should do that for fun. Great video. Thanks for taking the time.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That is good to hear Sonny - I never found the 94 inaccurate. Maybe so many people owned them that not every owner was a great shot - or shot much. Bottle caps are easy at 50 yards and cans at 100 and 150 as well - with a 6 o'clock hold so you can see the can...you know what I mean.

[@ChromeArty]

This man is fantastic! Thank you for your well put together video. ... and thank you camera man :)

[@johnnyquest3707]

My .32 Special 94 is from 1948, just a year older than the one here and it has the “flat band”, too. I’m glad to see that feature was acknowledged here.

[@oldschool3484]

80s pre cross bolt and cross bolt safety and Angle eject had milled receivers. Some of my favorites are the 80s winchester 94s. Love the Angle eject, even with open sights. They came in all calibers even 44, 45, 357 as well as all the old ones. Those were great years.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I didn't know they were milled - thank you!

[@jayhaddan7927]

They were not milled

[@ronaldjohnston7989]

Please...ramble on forever. Really great video, love your style and I'm now going to buy my first '94 as a 70th birthday present to myself. Just subscribed and will be looking at your other videos. Well done and thank you! RJ

[@dylanmaloney94]

My grandfather handed down a Model 94 to me last year. It’s a 30-30 and according the serial number, was made in 1945. It is also a flat band. I love this gun. It has a few dings and scratches but gives the gun character. I love how slender and short the rifle is. It’s a perfect design for hunting the thick woods of Maine. It will always be my primary hunting rifle. Even over my M70. Thank you for great videos! Wish I had a gunsmith like you up here in Maine!!!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Nothing beats a rifle from family. Your grandfather is sort of with you on every hunt. Glad he chose the Winchester!

[@jeffleblanc8850]

Dylan Maloney most flat bands were made from 46 to late48 I’ve onley seen 46;and 48s haven’t see no 47s I guess could be late 45 or you have a 46 ther were suppose to be only 10000 made you are a lucky man that’s my favorite the flat band I don’t know why it’s just a band lol anyway your lucky be safe out ther with this virus happy shooting

[@jeffleblanc8850]

Dylan Maloney also I’m sure thers some good gunsmiths up ther in or around maine Im Canadian my mom used to live in Maine wen she was little from New Brunswick Canada peace be safe

[@Win94ae]

I love my 94; it shoots as well as most doubters' bolt actions.

[@Win94ae]

So you just happened by a comment 3 years old, to promote a site; then a person came by 11 minutes later to confirm the promotional information. You guys aren't very good spammers.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

What a great video. Looked at a 94 back in the early '80's. The Ranger looked pretty dodgy compared with the Marlin, but I never realised the handling qualities as everyone wanted a scoped rifle back then.. My uncle is still a bolt action fan..

[@garyelsik3376]

Sir, you have the most informative easy to understand gun show on YT. Keep up the great videos please.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Gary. Will do!

[@zincwick99]

Just got a Winchester 94 carbine in 32 special, serial number puts it at 1954. It feels and looks used and loved. Great video Sir, made me appreciate being the guns new owner. I also have a new Henry 22, lots of fun.

[@Antonio-j1g]

how can you figure out the year of making from a serial number?

[@dasboot9471]

I just found a 1945 1894 in my local gun shop in .30-30 in sweet condition! I cannot wait to continue it's legacy as a hunting rifle. Thanks so much for your videos.

[@DC632A]

My 1956 Model 94 is at the top of my list as one of my favorites. Carries and shoots great

[@deckert618]

Thank you for this. I would probably never have a chance to see all 3 eras side by side

[@Me2Lancer]

Thank you Mike for sharing these iconic Model 94 carbines. It's great to see the changes over time. I would love to have acquired a pre-64 model but when the changes took place I was overseas patrolling the expanse of the Pacific and in Vietnam. I have a 1970s vintage model 94 and have to agree with your comments on it being an instinctive design. Don't understand the detractors who claim they don't shoot well. Handling and balance are unequaled. My 94 is a 30-30. I also have a model 92 in .357 magnum but that's another topic.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

They shoot very well - as well as their owners I always say : )

[@ИннаМуравьева-т3и]

After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel kzbin.infoUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I've heard from a few viewers about iguana numbers - sooo many - not much else one can practically do.

[@dylangracie1]

As a first time viewer, I was so glad to find your video...today I hope to visit my uncle, soon to be 99 and sharp as the crack of his 1938 32WS, octagon barrel, Williams peep sight, like new bluing, etc...we discussed the Northern Michigan deer he shot with this rifle. He lamented for the animals he killed up till the early 60’s when he transferred to Florida with Bell... A while back I offered him a check for all his guns except the rare shotgun which he passed to his antique dealer son. My collection of Winchesters includes a fine 1892 in 25-20win, 94’s in 30-30 (1938, 60s, 70’s), 32 Win Spl...22 rimfire, 22WMR, and so much to learn at 70...so many books to read...so many Winchester’s to collect...also have a new condition 70 in 308 with a scope...and Uncles Winchester 12 in 12 gauge, another 1930s beauty...glad to find you and thanks for sharing your knowledge! And lastly, a Winchester 57 22lr with mags of 5 and 10 capacity...I honestly had to handle it for awhile before writing this...the history just rubs off...

[@copperkeeper7392]

What a great video. I shot my 2nd white tail in Alberta with my 1998ish 94 this last October. Ya it's not a pre 64 but my gosh I have a scope on it and I'm a surgeon with it out 200 yards. I've put 3 rounds through it in 3 years and killed 1 fence post and 2 white tail doe. It's an amazing rifle and so underrated. Especially with the Leverevolution ammo. Trust me. I pack it up the eastern Rockies foothills with a sling and scope and love it. Great video dude and a fair comment on the rifle. Very thoughtful. Wish I could post a pic of the rifle with my fall deer?

[@airbornesoldieramerica7125]

Mine was also made in 1975. Seems like it is a good shooter for me. Thank you and glad to hear it is not a piece of junk.

[@paulchandler9646]

One of the biggest grizzly's ever killed was with a 94 Winchester IN 30-30 near Pemberton BC in 1967.The post 64 94'S were sintered metal powder recievers and even those are still good not just worth as much as the pre 64's.

[@ricashbringer9866]

I have a 94AE from 2006. Similar in build to the 2017. The hole in the hammer is for an extension that comes with the rifle. Because if you mount a scope to the top, you can't thumb the hammer down. If you download a manual for it, it will explain it.

[@russellhogan2708]

Do you know if I could order a new model 94 in 357? Or maybe a new model 94 ranger in 357? Thanks for a great video.

[@markmueller5508]

I bought a 94 when I heard that Olin was selling Winchester (late 70s?). It is an XTR grade, $20 more than the standard grade (polished before bluing, select wood and real checkering). Main difference between it and my 1919 model is the coil mainspring . The early one has a flat mainspring which is adjustable for trigger pull, but also affects hammer strike. Both shoot great.

[@conradwernicke5700]

I have 1958 model 94 which inherited from my dad

[@thomasmoje5926]

I bought a used Model '94 a few years ago, in 30-30 Winchester caliber. It is the 'Classic' model with full octagon barrel, roll-engraved receiver, gold-colored loading gate, and blued fore-end cap (as opposed to a band). It think it is from 1980-1981 production period from what I can ascertain from the serial number. It looks nice and is a good shooter. Would rather have picked up a 'pre-64' example but found the one I ended up with and enjoy it.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Fine rifle and I like that version; I'm not fussy when it comes to 94s - they are all great. I hunt with iron sights in daylight for whitetails - the 94 is just the ticket.

[@kennethbailey2616]

One of my crews bought a 94 for me when I went to a different job. It’s a Buffalo Bill commemorative. It was NIB but the box looked pretty old though I’m not sure what year it was made. I kept it unfired for quite a few years. My sons said I should use it since I have always wanted to hunt with a 94. I was on a friend’s ranch and decided to shoot a small whitetail buck. Probably 75 yds or so and he dropped in his tracks. It would clover leaf at 100 yds even with my old eyes. It now belongs to my oldest grandson. I figured I would like to see him enjoy it rather than have him inherit it after I’m gone. By the way, have you ever visited the Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Kenneth - yes - years ago; have to get there again. There was a rifle on display there that was a Browning with so few parts - 3 I think; have to see it again. As for your 94 - fantastic rifle; great that your grandson has it. Lots of people forget how much young people need - in every area of life; we live in strange times where the young are forgotten and left to machines. IMHO : )

[@kennethbailey2616]

USOG As I recall Buffalo Bill’s rifle, “Lucretia Borgia” is on display there as well.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That rings a bell - I'll have to get there soon - so interesting.

[@blaws6684]

Your grandsons rifle is a 1968

[@markweber2958]

I have one as well...

[@RickNethery]

Great Job on this video, I got the notification earlier today, I waited until after work to watch it. This video was well worth the wait, beautiful rifles Sir.

[@deanhoward4128]

The hole in the 2017 model,is actually to put an extension roll pin in, when there is a scope mounted on the receiver, so you can still cock the hammer with your thumb. I still have my 1974 model 94 that my dad bought new for my 15th birthday & I have taken several deer with it & it still shoots great & true to point of aim!

[@nathanadrian7797]

I bought my first rifle the year I turned 13, I saved almost every penny from my summer job and plunked it all down on a brand new model 94. That little carbine cost me $300 back in 1980 but I have never regretted that purchase. Now it belongs to one of my sons, and maybe one day I will get to see a grandson carry it. It was made in 76 and shoots just fine.

[@jeffreyhershey5754]

Three hundred dollars for a 94 in 1980 they robbed you I could buy them brand new for 99 in 78 and 79 and then they jumped ten dollars in 1980 to a 109 all the hardware stores sold them for that in my area anyway in 1988 you could buy them used in nice condition for a 129

[@nathanadrian7797]

@@jeffreyhershey5754 I'll bet you don't live in Canada. I checked both stores in Nelson, and every store I could find in Revelstoke, Salmon Arm and Vernon, $300 was the cheapest I could find. Second hand they were about $150 right into the late 90's and I recently bought one made in 1905 for $200, I think I'm doing alright.

[@jeffreyhershey5754]

@@nathanadrian7797 that 1905 for 200.00 was a steal very good buy the model 94 winchester in the late seventies sold New for 99_109 on sale every fall in the bemidji minnesota area every hardware store had them and I bought one New for 99 dollars in 78 very good rifles I have a 26 inch octagon barrel made in 1900 and a src in 1904 and one in 1914 all are good shooters yet and still bring home the venison from time to time even tho I have many other rifles and calibers there's nothing quite like a model 94 winchester for quick handling my 1914 is in the 25-35 caliber the other ones are 30-30 other than my 375 big bore and a Chief crazy horse commeritave in the 38-55

[@nathanadrian7797]

@@jeffreyhershey5754 I won't name all of mine because of our stupid government, but I will say that my oldest was made in 1898(26' octagon barrel with a short magazine) and it isnt the oldest in the family, love my winchesters!

[@jeffreyhershey5754]

@@nathanadrian7797 understand that I feel the same way just mentioned the winchester 94 I've got other models and many more modern rifles to use but like you said I prefer the older winnies always thought that they were the best of the best

[@danielpeters3760]

Some have been tapped on the side of the receiver for an off set scope all owing it to eject from the top also. Happy Hollidays. Sir love the videos.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Daniel. I wish you and your the very best for the holidays and a Merry Christmas! God Bless.

[@mplp1959]

I have a 1966 Centennial Commemorative in 30-30. 26” octagonal barrel. It’s not the pre 64 action. It’s a great shooter. I added a Marbles tang sight to it. I have no trouble hitting a 6” metal plate at 150 yards freehand.

[@ThemantleofElijah]

I am actually looking at buying one of those 1866-1966 ones with the gold plated I’m just wondering if it’s as good quality as a ranger built in the 80s to 90s

[@409rommel]

Nice!! I have a '47 flat band as well.. These are some of my favorite rifles....

[@Gideom007]

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[@brianlee6849]

I love the model 94. I was trying to decide between a Marlin 336 and the model 94 and I've decided I'm getting get the model 94. Now I just have to decide whether I want to get a old one or a new one? I really prefer an aperture sight and I've been looking into it they have a receiver mounted aperture sight but it requires Drilling and tapping? There's also an aperture sight that mounts to the left side of receiver. It looks like it has a lot of adjustment but I've never found it to be too attractive. The top mount I like better except for having to drill and tap it? As a collector how much does it hurt the value to drill and tap it for a aperture sight? If I did decide to buy a older clean pre 64 maybe even like an older 30 WCF what is the value? What should I expect to pay? I'm talking clean and in good working order looks good but I'm not talking about never shot in a box condition. I would actually be using it for hunting. As always thank you for your advice. I really enjoy your videos.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Brian - Sorry I'm slow. I'd pay between $5 - $700. and sight it up as you like; maybe a Skinner would work for you. I never hesitate to fit sights and there are many huntable 94s that are not expected to be perfect so a sight change won't matter - at least to me.

[@brianlee6849]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you for that I greatly appreciate that. I was thinking the resale value really wouldn't make any difference to me because I will keep it. I never sell guns anyway. My son's might think about it one day. LOL hopefully they will appreciate it like I do and keep it and use it. In my opinion good classic guns are meant to be used hunted with shot and enjoyed. Thank you again

[@tsarytsin]

I have several Model 1894's. A 1923 Octagon in 32 WS, A 1963 IN 30-30, and a Miroku in 30-30 as well. I love the progression of these. Having an 1860 Henry and 1886 in 45-70 up until the 94 you can see how this gun evolved. From the odd loading in the Henry rifle to the King's gate that made reloading on the fly possible to the reinforced bolt brace in the 86 that made possible the chambering of higher powered cartridges, culminating in the 94 having all these features optimized. Browning's designs are amazing and it's no wonder that the 94 is the best iteration of the Winchester lever rifle.

[@Bubbles.......]

Me and my dad have an old Winchester rifle collection. Two Pre 64 Model 94 Winchester 32. Specials. The one dad uses for Deer was made in 1942 and the one I use for Deer was made in 1952. Next, we have a Pre 64 saddle ring carbine 32. Special made in the 1930s. Next, we have a 32 inch barrel 38-55 made in 1896. Also we have a 30-30 model 94 (Not sure when it was made havent looked up the serial number) Last but not least we have a Model 70, 270 Winchester featherweight bolt action rifle made in the 90s that I use for coyote and deer as well.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You're got the bases covered. The 38-55 is a gem - not many of those for sure. Thanks for sharing.

[@Bubbles.......]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Oh yeah. Dad says when he passes someday too never sell them and hopefully I get to say the same thing to my kids.

[@billwitt4061]

Have a mid-40’s 94 in .32 special (pre flat-band, Winchester logo on receiver) and a “Ranger” (economy 94 in 30-30), no safety, late 80’s. Both great classic American firearms. They all shoot well and will last forever.

[@k3vinl85]

The hole on the trigger on your 2017 model is for a trigger extension that comes off to the side. It's so the gun can still be cocked and uncocked when there is a scope on top of the rifle. Mine has it and it's from the mid 90s serial 6219040.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Kog! Now I know.

[@jasonkoestner4630]

Nice collection I have a 1951 94 in 32 special 95%bluing is intact wood is beautiful also I have a 1967 Canadian centennial black chrome receiver with gold mapel leafs and a 20 inch octogon barrel in 30-30

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

The octagon is a very nice feature; the .32 a fine vintage.

[@CuJo1018]

I have a .32 winchester special as well with octagon barrel. Mine is from 1909 from best i can tell from serial number. It was my grampas farm gun so its a little beaten up but shoots great and is alot of fun to shoot

[@RobertWilliams-ox4hz]

I'm in the Market for a 94. I own more than a dozen Marlins in various models and calibers, but I've always admired the Winchester. This video makes me want one even more.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Something about them Robert - they were the gun America reached for when things were simpler and what mattered was clear. Still, Marlins were there as well - but a 94 in hand is legend; or I think so anyway.

[@scottwilson1258]

Thanks my Friend,You always are so Thorough and Complete! I need to add one of these Beauties and Looking for an Old one,I knew I could count on You for some Great History. Also am Glad you lay to rest that these Guns are not Shooters...I think it's mostly the Shootee !

[@andrewwalker9368]

Thanks for the video! I have my great grandfather's 94 (1913) in 38 55. It's still a great shooter!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's a keeper for sure. Glad the 94 is still in the family and the cartridge is as effective as any in its range.

[@adamx9987]

My father (78 yrs) past down a win special model 94 to me this past Father's day. It was his uncle's who past it down to him, and now me. Great condition. I remember shooting it as a boy.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

You've got something special there : )

[@CandidZulu]

Just wanted to point out that the tang safety is probably more ergonomic than a half cock notch (or perhaps even a cross bolt). Since a push with the thumb is so easy when mounting the gun (which is natural with anyone using double shotguns). It is also potentially more quiet. Does it interfere with a tang sight though?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Robert - I think you're right. The tang is a natural place for the safety.

[@CandidZulu]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns It's also been common in the past (and still is) to add safeties to Mauser 98s. First the Greener side safeties were popular, then Bueler, and all kinds of tang safeties have been made (Including cocking buttons). So it's not the first time an old design is improved with a new safety! Back in the day people did not think about gun safety as we do today. Even in the military there were much less concern for safety in gun handling.

[@larrymunninghoff6746]

Really enjoy your videos. If only buying one of the two books mentioned in your video which would you buy? The George Madis book or Bill West's book? thanks

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Larry - I'd buy the Madis book - so well done with fine illustrations - and a classic gun book to own and enjoy. : )

[@buckan8r999]

Do the collector's editions have a different serial number scheme? I see a 1977 Legendary Lawmen that has a serial number prefixed at 'LL', which I can't find in serial number lookups.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi - I think so - but I don't know them - sorry.

[@jeraldsaylor2232]

I like the 82-92 models. Back to forged receivers, solid pins in action replacing roll pins. Have the rebounding hammer which is better then the crossbolt. And these years didnt have the crossbolt. Close as one can get to a pre 64 in slot of ways. And still made here in States.

[@danielpeters3760]

The hole in the hammer is for a cocking side device if a scope is being used I believe. I could be wrong.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I think you're right Daniel - thanks for the note.

[@treatb09]

i have been wondering about the hole in the hammer too. i think, but am not certain, that it is there for the automated production process to consistently tune the hammer and sear for the jig or mechanism used.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Bo! People write me and tell me it is for a hammer extension to the side - to allow for easy hammer access when a scope is mounted. Your idea may also be a factor. Thanks for writing.

[@williambeglen4771]

There is one more crucial (modern) variation. The 1992. It has a cross bolt safety. This is also when they started doing the threaded hole in the hammer for the thumb assist button.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you William

[@thelostboyscout1489]

On the 2017 model, you'll notice that hole in the hammer is threaded.. Or it was on an earlier model I had.. It was for a knurled approx 5/8" rod that threads in there to aid in cocking the hammer.. It may be floating around the box it came in also...

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you! I'll look.

[@thelostboyscout1489]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns If you're lookin for a Model 21 lmk.. J.

[@jimdent351]

I think the hole in the hammer is for an extension. Once a scope is mounted the hammer can sometimes be difficult to access, so they put an extension on the hammer for easy cocking.

[@bowhunter2439]

Just featured my unfired 1962 30/30 mod 94 on my instagram page and its getting lots of hits ( bows outdoors ), my question is will firing the gun change the value of the 94 to a large degree as im planning to start deer hunting with this golden American gem.... thanks in advance..!!!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

"Unfired" can be a big deal for some collectors so I'd say yes - firing the rifle can make a value difference. I'd buy a used one for hunting and keep the pristine one pristine. BTW - FANTASTIC to have on in that condition - when that rifle was made the 94s usually went straight to work in the bush. Good on you to have one that lived indoors. All the best to you.

[@bowhunter2439]

USOG thanks for the input, my main woods deer rifle is a scoped marlin 336 in 35 rem jm production that I have owned since new , and I have two additional Marlins an unfired JM 3030 and a JM 22 mod 39a , I really would like to start throwing some lead down those pipes also 😀tough decisions ahead, thanks again for your input!!

[@carba8606]

Have to say....love you videos cox you bring nostagia to me......Iam 66 year old....make me old shooter around here in the outback..( australia )

[@robertdeford560]

I have owned 2 94's, presently a pre 64, the other was a after 74 model & I loved both of them. I'm presently in the market for another 1.

[@chrisbarr5289]

I just inherited a 1974 in 3030 along with about 200 of my uncle's hand loads. While I primarily bow hunt, I'm going to try to take a deer with it this fall. I am 54 and this is my 1st model 94. Pretty stoked about it. I don't know what the gun experts would say, but it's very close to excellent condition

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Chris - That's a classic rifle in a classic caliber - just about perfect for deer. You're never too young to head out hunting; a little practice with those hand loads to see where they hit and what power they have and you're set. Best of luck!

[@captainllanos4959]

I have a 1957 model ‘94 which is excellent condition

[@milano61]

The hole is in the hammer and is for the hammer extension ...it screws into the side so you can access the hammer if a scope is mounted atop the receiver.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Alan

[@TechJunky777]

I have a question! I have a 1970 94 in 30-30. The barrel is stamped WP but the receiver has no stamp at all. Wondering why? I noticed on your 1975 model both your barrel and receiver are stamped. I tried to search online about this but haven’t found much about the markings.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi TechJunky - Some receivers were not stamped in the 70s according to my collector friend.

[@bumpercoach]

just got a 1976... would that be much different than the 75? I got it for 100 under what I sold a 94AE w/ rebounding hammer but no tang safety

[@DDPAV]

For my birthday in the late 70s my dad gave me a new 94. I shot it for the first time in July of 2020 off a local forest road. I personally haven't shot any gun in 30 years. I was hitting a target 80 yards away at almost the same consistency as the scoped up, fancy gun shooting guys next to me. The 20-somethings thought it was crazy to hit something with "just iron sights" that far away. Again I'm not a shooter so I don't know all ins and outs but my skills had nothing to do with accuracy, the 94 is just that good of a rifle, making a beginner look good.

[@Canada-gs3jc]

Wonderful video. If you have any old boxlock or sidelock doubles could you do a video on them. Thanks

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Yes - I have both - will do.

[@Canada-gs3jc]

Thanks!

[@kevinward8915]

Great video love the 94, have them in .22,.22mag, 30-30,32 Winchester, .375 Winchester big bore

[@NorthEastSaskFarmer]

Found a early 94, is a full length rifle with half-round-half-octagon barrel. Originally had full length magazine, but was crudely cut down to carbine length (just the mag, not the barrel). I read that it is a rare set up with this barrel. Only wants $150 Canadian dollars.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I would buy it in a heartbeat. A fine rifle for hunting and shooting. : )

[@stevemcc4447]

Thanks for the great review. I'm about to pick up a 66 model 30-30, just re-blued. Wondering what you might think of that year and if it would handle high pressure ammo (not that I'll use it), like Underwood?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Great rifle - I never had any issues with strength in the Winchesters.

[@rg2metairie]

Love the video, I have a NRA centennial and a pre 70's 94 love them both

[@olhippie1]

I have three 1894's one was manufactured in 1915 and features a rare Winchester issued rear sight that provides a flip up feature calibrated out to 500 yards (bring along a oweji board if you're shooting to 500 yards with a .30 WCF (30/30) . Another a 1984 angle eject 30/30 "Trapper " saddle ring model. And finally a 1984 manufactured "Wrangler " angle eject model in 38/55 caliber with fancy checkered Highly figured American walnut. All three,just as you say, are very field accurate guns, none are target competition guns. I've never missed game with any of them and always experienced ethical Humane performance out of their caliber chamberings. Wonderful hunting guns,as old a design as they are no better hunting piece for close cover Eastern American hunting has ever been produced to eclipse them !

[@tattoo62]

You do a very nice job doing this thank you..really liked the video

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you!

[@tattoo62]

You r very welcome ! I dont have any winchesters but i do like them ! Im debating on buying a win 22 mag lever action. They want around 500 to 600. You think that is an ok price ? His dad had it when we was kids n late 60's but dont no what yr it is.. i love 22's

[@dakota481]

You don't get a background check for this since it's pre 1898 ?

[@musicmatty67]

The hole in the trigger is for a trigger extension ...it screws into the side so you can access the trigger once the scope is mounted on top👌

[@milano61]

The hole is in the hammer and is for the hammer extension ...it screws into the side so you can access the hammer once the scope is mounted atop the receiver.

[@snteevveetns]

I don't know if you received feed back regarding the hole in the hammer..its to install an extension for a hammer spur if you have a scope. Good video.

[@brianleonard6885]

Just bought a nice original pre 64 today it's in very good condition... I can't wait to pick it up Tuesday

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Very wise purchase - you'll never look back! I wish you only the best.

[@warrencrawley8300]

Can you tell me a little bit about the 94 32 Winchester special and what cartridge it will use maybe what year it was produced?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Warren - Introduced in 1901 the .32 Winchester Special uses a larger diameter bullet than the 30-30 Winchester on which the .32 is based. The .32 uses a larger diameter bullet. Energy and velocity is about the same. The Model 1894 in .32 Special has a rate of twist of 1 in 16, which is slower than the 30-30s 1 in 12. Winchesters idea was that the .32 could use handloads and cast bullets better than the 1 in 12 twist of the 30-30. The cartridge is liked by many, but didn't approach the popularity of the 30-30. Hope this helps a bit.

[@warrencrawley8300]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you yes

[@ksumrs5]

They started the angle eject in 82 or 83 I just got myself a 86 year model 1894 has the buckhorns but only thinking of going to ghost rings

[@jonathanmays2600]

@usog Recently got into collecting these. I'm looking at a post64 94 trapper s.r.c. in 44 mag at an upcoming auction and have seen it priced between $400-$800. Any idea? The value books I have list it around $500 but they're a few years old. It's got 1894-1994 etched into the receiver, may affect price. Thanks for your time!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

The Trappers are hard to find and the .44 Mags even more so. I've seen them change hands for up to the $800. you mentioned - condition always being the variable. The 1894-1994 is the centennial model and .44 Mag Trapper - I didn't even know they existed. Sounds like a must buy if authentic. Best of luck.

[@OutnBacker]

I love my 94 and will never part with it. Beautifully made in 1939 and shoots reloads quite accurately at 100 yds, which is all I require. However, when it comes to carry comfort and balance and quick, instinctive pointing, my 1937 Savage Model 99 has it all over the Win or Marlin. Of course, I understand the differences and the 94 and 336 are plenty good.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I have a 99A in .250 - a lightning fast rifle to the shoulder and one of the best overall deer rifles.

[@mamjack6134]

Just got my first one. Wasn't interested in lever actions before but couldn't pass up because of price. Didn't ever take close look at it till I got home . not a single dent bluing is perfect . the Nostalgia of it really grows on you, wont be flipping it after all can't wait to shoot it

[@dougcataraha7099]

I'm 78 years old now and in the 60s I bought a brand new 30/30 Winchester model 94. Than I bought a model 9422 Winchester 22LR Now I have an old marlin 39A with the micro groove barrel and just got a model 94 co2 pellet gun. Lots of fun just target shooting it's like the real 30/30 loads shells from the side gate and even ejects the shells and i shoot it right here at home.

[@dobypilgrim6160]

I used to work for USRA as a manufacturer rep. They had a 100 yard underground range at the factory. When the Angle Eject came out we installed a Leupold Vari-X III on a Big Bore in .375. I sat down and shot a 1.5 inch group my first time at the bench. Then did the very same thing with a .30-30. They shoot just fine. Always have for me. As for my current sight preference, it is a Skinner Ghost Ring installed in the dovetail with the front hood removed. Using LeveRevolution 160 grain ammo, I have had no problems at all ringing a 12 inch gong out to 400 yards. Buy the cheapest ammo out there at Walmart. You'll think the Mod 1894 won't shoot. You'll be wrong

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

If only people knew what you know. So many rumors and theories that somehow get out there and last for years or even decades. The Model 94 is an accurate and brilliant rifle/carbine - it is and it always was. I am not as good a shot as you but I know the Model 94 very well.

[@williamthehuntsman]

My dad before his stroke gave me his 73 winchester 94 in .32 win spec. It's the rifle I learned to shoot with, the gun that took a deer, plenty of coyotes and a moose, and it's the rifle I'll pass on to my son or daughter.

[@Blanchy10]

I have 1975 Klondike Commemorative. It was a stiff as a 16yr old boy. After all the gold wore off, its as slick as it should be.

[@Brett235]

I have a '94 with the tang safety and its a really nice rifle. I haven't ever shot it in the 8 years I've owned it. I had a 1960 model when I was just a teenager in the 1990's but I sold it not realizing what I had. I gave $150 for it and sold it for $200.

[@jimb7710]

Great video on the 94 Winchester. Marlin. Has come out with a curly maple stock on the lever action rifles. I would like to get my hands on one. What are your thoughts on this as an investment. Thanks again

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Jim - Any of the special runs are usually great investments. I didn't know about the maple run - I'll have a look - thanks for bringing to my attention.

[@normansmith76]

I have a rifle that was given to me from a friend and I am trying to find some information out about it. Like when it was made , history and value of it. It has on the barrel Winchester Model 94AE Cal.30-30 WIN. And has a serial number by trigger 640X386

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Norm - Sounds like a USRA model. What does it say on the barrel?

[@normansmith76]

Winchester Model 94AE cal.30-30

[@eatdawg1]

The 65 to about 69 rifles had internal parts that were stamped. They went back to milled internal parts but kept the molded receiver(an over simplistic description). The 94's made in the 70's shoot just as well as any they made. I have a 58. a 60 and a 1972 and the 72 is the best shooter.

[@servantapashia7724]

Never Deceived i believe i have a 1973 year 94. 30-30 #381xx73

[@sailingmj36]

I have a 1901 and I have to a aim quit a bit below what I'm actually shooting at, is that normal?

[@hatteraslabuf]

What’s your opinion of the Winchester NRA Centennial Model 94 in 30-30?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Nice rifle - as you know it is one of many Winchester commemorative Model 94s; any earlier Model 94 (say pre-64) has more going for it but there are so many people that just love collecting certain of, or all of the commemoratives. I like them all.

[@williammorgan5096]

I've got 2. Early 64 2.7mil number and a 42 1.3mil numbers. I can tell you that the 64 was lighter and the wood was loose and feels cheap. The 64 has a cheap thin 2 spring type hammer spring instead of the solid 1 spring the 42 has. Also the 42 is a smother action, but this could be from thousands of rounds shot through it compared to hardly any on the 64. They are both awsome and I would never sell them.

[@LeftThumbBreak]

Always appreciate these videos.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you.

[@preyingmathis2517]

The hole on the 2017 hammer is probably for putting on an offset stud to make it easier to cock with a optic mounted.

[@mikewhitt1034]

I have a 1945 model 94 in 30 w.c.f. 30/30 it was my grandpas,then my dads now its mine.and will probably give it to one of my grandkids when I'm gone. It's kinda a family heirloom. And has shot more deer in Wisconsin than i can count. What a great rifle a 1894 is.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

As good as it gets Mike - and with that family history - that rifle is a book. All the best to you.

[@frankf7858]

Great presentation and info. Thanks

[@carliprofr]

Thanks a lot for your great videos.

[@themisunderstoodgorilla7030]

this is a good video, thanks for the comparison !

[@davidkelly715]

Can you do a video on the Sig SHR 970? I own one in .270 and it is by far the fastest, tightest, and smoothest action I’ve ever worked. It is also a tack driver. Thanks!!!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi David - excellent idea! One problem - I had one in 9.3X62 and sold it. When I find another I'll make a video straight away. In the meantime - you have a great rifle.