Old and ruined Winchester 1897 restoration - gun restoration

In this video, im going to show a restoration of an old and ruined winchester 1897. This winchester model 1897 is a riot gun, but there are the cover of a trench gun. This it was done to raise its price. During this gun restoration video, during i work on this old and ruined winchester 1897, is use only original tecniques to preser the old finishin.
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[@restaurato6629]

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[@hellyeaOU812]

not a freaking chance

[@dilla_go]

lmfao

[@GabrielCarreon-hd2cv]

Gang

[@katyDewa]

​@@hellyeaOU812😊

[@josephdrake2760]

Maybe I'm wrong, but this has the look of a reasonably well preserved gun that was artificially weathered.

[@southernokie3430]

Hmm I don’t thank but just my take on looking how hard everything was on the break down of shotgun

[@billdanosky]

I've watched a ton of these restoration videos. I'd really like to see one on how they rust them up first.

[@Kluee]

fax another ruined piece for what content?

[@billdanosky]

@@Kluee if you're asking for clarification- the only time I've seen a gun that rusty was in every restoration video. Every restoration video. Every, single restoration video.

[@mossyson]

@@billdanosky perhaps, the only reason you would see a rusted gun in a restoration video, is because if they were unrusted, they would not need to be restored.

[@gnarcotics_]

@@billdanoskywell if they were nice and clean they probably wouldn’t need to be restored huh? You’re brilliant 😂

[@billdanosky]

@@gnarcotics_ I just proved this point in the reply above, but I guess your the smartest, genius.

[@aadin]

im fully convinced that 90% of these channels oxidize and rust weapons in a matter of a week just to make content videos

[@robertfandel9442]

Really it's a 1897 they were used in WW1.

[@killbeers6890]

He's saying OP is artificially aging the items for the sake of their video...

[@aadin]

@@killbeers6890 exactly.

[@crustybomb115]

@@robertfandel9442 steel wool in the barrel, also wood NEVER LOOKS this clean after a supposed 100 years of being exposed to the weathering

[@blacksuite1]

That KZbin money is to sweet.

[@notnowchief.3089]

Intentionally Rusted/ Then this guy "Saves this Shot gun" 90% of these comments are praising this dude for fixing something he caused and was untruthful about.

[@antoinejackson4311]

Who cares HOW it got rusty. We're watching a restoration

[@winny94mc]

​@@antoinejackson4311 "who care" ?? Really ?... those who love the truth :)

[@mase7557]

I’m sorry, but you MUST refinish the heat shield and re-install it on the weapon.

[@restaurato6629]

Heat shield is not original part. Is added for fraud the last owner. This is a riot gun not a trench gun.

[@mase7557]

@@restaurato6629 thanks

[@battalion151R]

Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for clearing that up. Gorilla Glue is amazing. I restored 2 completely broken stocks that were broken at the wrist. If you didn't look very closely you'd never have seen the joints. Were you using oxalic acid on the rusted steel parts?

[@ronroche3138]

Agree 100%

[@mrlink206]

Just thinking the same thing.

[@AMBATUKAMceo]

No annoying back ground music ✅ Straight to the point ✅ ASMR (debatatble) ✅ 10/10 video i loved the sounds

[@PeterCaptainObvious]

Deliberately aged weapon, was it left in salt water for a couple weeks before this video?

[@france_stoneshore2150]

My thoughts, it's rust is off.

[@holocaust_2.0]

More than likely.

[@PeterCaptainObvious]

@@france_stoneshore2150 It's almost the same kind of rust that was on this bloke's Spas12 video. Man's just destroying historic relics, no shame.

[@kallebsilva7474]

ah yes. My favorite kind of wood: rusted.

[@viperxl5008]

Ong

[@Kill-o-Matic]

The best CYMA shotgun restoration ever!

[@restaurato6629]

Cyma? Hope you have see the final bro 😉

[@ub_8]

Honestly, thank you for not putting music

[@jemteebee556]

More like a very serious cleaning than a restoration. But I'm glad it wasnt polished or anything. That old weathered and pitted look gives it that nostalgic look especially with these old west guns.

[@javiercastillo1186]

Are all these weapons artificially rusted for this channel

[@user-jp9fk7xw9v]

What do you think?

[@BeersAndBeatsPDX]

Absolutely

[@sergeantbigmac]

My Grandfather owned a gunshop and he'd buy peoples used guns even the rusty ones to fix up, so ive handled lots of firearms that are in rough shape IE rusted through a natural process of time and improper storage... Anyway the guns in this guys videos all have the hallmarks of intentional forced patina. You can just tell when something is real, its hard to explain. But the tell is that its a perfectly even layer of active orange rust that is thin and has not pitted or eaten into the metal. This tells me its recent and also deliberate. Whole guns rarely rust at the same rate, like the tip of the barrel or grip or highpoint surfaces will go first. My assumption is he takes a firearm in probably fair to decent condition, uses vinegar or other chemical agent to strip the bluing to bare metal, then dunks the whole gun in salt water and leaves it outside under the sun for a week. Winchester riot 1897s (in the description he says its a regular model that he added the shield to so its not a real valuable trenchgun) average in the USA around $500-900 depending on condition. IDK where he is located. But you may ask this is wasteful right? But think about it; he got 4.5 MILLION views in less than 3 months on this video alone. He has nearly 1 million subscribers. He has made, by conservative estimates, $45,000 from google ad revenue off this video alone. But probably several times that much. Not counting his other videos, donations, sponsorships, etc. With minimal filming/editing work and a $500 dollar upfront investment and a few hours of his time. This guy is a fucking genius. A deceitful genius, but genius none the less.

[@damrgee8279]

I have been saying that for a long time it looks like they were all put into a shake and bake bag

[@toddcunningham3213]

That one's a keeper! My grandpa had one just like it but sold it in a garage sale for $25 when I was a kid. He told me that he didn't need it anymore because he bought an 870. Luckily, I got the 870, but I sure wish I had that 1897!

[@georgebone23]

I WISH I could find one in that shape..nice restoration!

[@liberationpocket7950]

Amazing how this old gun has no pitting whatsoever lmao

[@jeremyjackson8196]

Dang, how long did you let this one sit outside before making the video?

[@usmcnguyentrw]

I do love firearms maintenance, but restoration is another level. As an Ordnanceman, this makes me happy to watch. Great work!

[@joeygaming2987]

Reminds me of a trench shotgun, that’s my favourite shotgun

[@aidanlimhuadenghshs]

It is... Might be wrong but pretty sure it is.. edit:just checked and yes this IS a trench shotgun

[@DisgruntledGrunt]

It is. Its a Winchester Model 1897. Even had the heat shield/bayonet lug, though he didn’t do any kind of refinishing of that part, unfortunately. Yeah, my favorite shotgun too.

[@Hath.0]

That is the trench gun. Iconic

[@aidanlimhuadenghshs]

@@Hath.0 indeed

[@laurentdevaux5617]

You bet it reminds you a trench gun.... It is a Winchester 1897 trench gun ! I'd like to have one !

[@ET74019]

It makes me sick when I see old things like this neglected and trashed…makes me happy to see someone putting in the time 😊

[@PeterCaptainObvious]

You realise these "restoration" channels will deliberately age these weapons for content right? This guy has mistreated this relic just to bring it back to how it was

[@porcupinepete8110]

I occasionally receive guns that are badly rusted because they were left in a damp case or picked out of a lake. In every case they had deep pitting. Your gun looks like it has very light pitting. Looks like it was left in the rain for a few days and has lots of surface rust. Very seldom do I see a uniform coating of rust. Still fun to watch.

[@coochieman3178]

Yes most of these videos restoration pieces man-made to look super old

[@InformationIsTheEdge]

SWEET! I was expecting a before and after but not a firing test! Exceptionally cool! I'm glad you kept so much of the original character of the piece. Reconditioned but still looks old. Very nice!

[@patrickfullan9509]

126 year old shotgun still getting it done. R.I.P Mr. Browning, your designs are timeless.

[@Grammer_Police1]

It's probably more like a 26 year old shotgun as it's a riot gun that's been made to look like a trench gun

[@kcoker81]

I own one of this exact model! Passed down by my grandfather's grandfather. Really cool to see one bright back to life.

[@666sdkfz]

The old rusty appearance on this looks rather "fresh" and fabricated !

[@1stfloorguy59]

Yeah fresh rust. Lmao

[@Clifford-jv7hk]

Most of these videos are using intentionally " rusty" items. It is obvous

[@holymoly6829]

Brother soft jaws for your vice please 🥹🥹🥹 Great restoration Glad you got your soft jaws out Phew Looks great 👍 👏👏👏

[@waynemanning3262]

Nice job! Saved but not ruined by a overzealous restoration. I’m fighting with myself as weather to take my original condition (90% blueing gone) 1897 and convert it to a trench gun or leave it alone! If I come across a spare barrel cheaply(doubt it) I might do a trench conversion to that one. I like the way you do things!

[@ryanhogle3089]

Im in the same boat lol it seems such a tragedy to cut down a nice barrel.

[@joesmithguide]

Surgical band on the stock repair is top notch use of things laying around.

[@sgtfroman]

I hope you clean and reinstall the bayonet mount and heat shield. They are original military issue and are quite rare and valuable.

[@lancet.gundersonii9529]

That’s what I thought.

[@restaurato6629]

During the restoration process i write about bayonet lug "this is not an original part of riffle" is added by a gunsmith in the past for fraud the original owner. This is definely a riot gun not a trench gun.

[@willowwisp6401]

I have my grandfathers 1890’s Belgian made Model 12 12 Gauge Automatic Shotgun. It has been taken Great Care of over the last century and shoots as good today as when it was new.

[@PeterPerez.]

hope it stays within your family forever

[@Chewligan1]

126 years old and yet it looks so impossibly modern !!! I really love the way you've retained the original patina !!!

[@rickreeve1246]

the last 97 winchester pump was made in mid 1957 if u idjuts looked this stuff up before making yr selfs look like dufues u d be better off i have 5 of them one made in 1904

[@user-qi3qr7hb2n]

I’ve never seen so many old rusty guns in my life. How long does it take to let a good gun rust?

[@noobinzone]

What an incredible result! A highly skilled, clever restoration - truly outstanding work!

[@jacobcannon2000]

Man those rusty screws sure did come out easy

[@jc9284]

How nerve wracking was that first test shot is what I'd like to know lol. Honest to God, my new favorite channel obsession. Remarkable work here, truly an art

[@lecobra418]

BallisticBackyard is simply better.

[@cabman86]

I had one just like this. I inherited it from my grandpa. It looked brand new. He took great care of his firearms.

[@Atlasowl]

That steel wool did a lot more than I thought it would

[@samye5537]

Probs cos it's a fake resto job. The gun isn't from that period, and the rust is due to being soaked in salt water for a week.

[@TrueThiago]

Glad to see you got your channel back. Thank you for this amazing work. 🇧🇷

[@danicao.6778]

The best pump ever made in the world!!! This weapon was rolled in the mud and dust during the war so it was functional again!!!

[@EnriqueOchoaMaldonado-uc8kl]

Excelente trabajo de restauración de esa vieja escopeta Winchester mod 1897..!! Llegó muy maltratada y muy oxidada, y quedo muy bien, se llevo mucho trabajo y tiempo, si la hubiera pavonado hubiera quedado preciosa..!! Muy buena explicación del desarme paso a paso..!! Muy buen documental..!! Excelente video..!

[@PIXEL-yt3fu]

Thanks I've been looking for this, now I can replace the real one with it in the Spencer Mansion

[@ThreadlineAngler]

I still have my Grandfather's 1897 to this day.

[@Fbaker10]

Me too! Still shoots, take it out every once in a while, run some lite bird shot thru it.

[@patrickbuechel2599]

First off, the Winchester model 1897 is not an easy to tackle when healthy,,,but bless you for breathing life back into this ol shotgun. My dad gave me 2, a 32" full and a 20" cyl. I've had them since i was 12. They are not for everyone.

[@jeepdan7776]

Old ruined Winchester turned into a restored ruined Winchester

[@paulofigado]

Great entertaining video, funciotionally it works, but from a non-professional perspective, I missed some polishing to make it shiny and easier to sline by reducing the friction

[@buck068]

This gun was most likely a hunting gun that someone converted on their own into an homage to a riot gun. At 10:22 you can see the barrel stamped "FULL", meaning that the barrel originally had a a full choke and was 28" or 30" long. The barrel was subsequently shortened to 20" during its conversion. While some hunting guns were converted to riot guns at the Winchester factory, these all had "XXXX" stamped over the "FULL" marking and "CYL" stamped underneath, indicating "cylinder bore". This gun does not have that marking.

[@donsullivan3610]

The restoration is impressive. What's more impressive is how he puts it back together!

[@BenSeigal]

I would love to see the expression on the face of the actual maker of this piece as he watches and wonders how it got into this state and then to see it restored. Amazing. Thanks for the video.

[@RP-ks6ly]

Less than a minute into this video and i had to go the the safe, get my 1897 and show her how she will never be treated like this.....shes a queen and deserves the best care and maintenance....by the way, my stock has a smaller chip in the exact same spot. Unfortunately, I dont have the chip.

[@hellyeaOU812]

when you fake rust these guns dont you worry you will damage the gun? orange rust = new rust btw

[@nesquick84]

They have no respect for historical artifacts, only views

[@davidboerema1139]

Excellent video. Anti-freeze works very well. It does not lose its shape after drying. Axe handles - it'll tighten those up with the same effect also. Best!

[@kirkethridge2500]

when i was young (in the 70's) an old timer would hand you one of these to see you tear the hide off your thumb when pumped,, it just takes once to learn how to hold one of these knuckle busters properly,,, nice video!

[@robhamilton4736]

So many flaws and things done incorrectly here in this video leads me to doubt a single thing this guy does. Right down to his crystal clear and clean finger nail bed to the lack of wounds to his hands or even cracked skin with dirt imbedded in his skin. I have NEVER met a gun restoration who did not have very dirty stained man hands. This kid looks like he just set down a novel and thought to himself ya know what, gun restoration will get alot of likes and subs. I'll make some videos and see how it goes. One thing is for sure, with the number of errors this guy makes doing resto there is not a chance this guy is a legit restoration expert. Probably his Dad or Grandpa's work he takes credit for. To bad.

[@john2510]

Narration (or subtitles) explaining the chemicals being used would be a huge improvement.

[@johnmorgan4405]

Great video. When i was a kid in the early 80's, we had a small gun shop in my town, and they had an original 1897 pump wWinchester with a bayonet. They used to let me hold it, and it is still one of my favorite weapons. The late 1800's to the early 1900's was such an interesting time in weapons development.

[@donaldwar2207]

If I could have any hobby I would do this. Seems so satisfying! I wouldn’t even know where to start

[@majorjockitch]

Thank you for preserving this gun's legacy and patina. I once had the privilege of selling one of these in perfect condition from the man it was issued to in WWI. I'll never forget that man , or that gun.

[@july172]

Arthur's shotgun.

[@silverhairseeker5539]

I really liked that you chose to leave off the after market vent hand guard. 👍😎

[@rickreeve1246]

how do u know its after market check ur history ww 1 ww2 korea viet nam these guns where there being used

[@Jack_Torrance.]

I just found an antique, muzzle loading, pistol, in remarkable shape. Only mild rust on the barrel seems to be the only issue with it. I found it in an old barn where nobody has lived on the property since I have lived in my house, 2003. Since it was inside a beat up feed container, it did not get wet. I look forward to trying it out.

[@Brett235]

You did an excellent job. Thanks for the video.

[@dkindig]

At least it wasn't a real trench gun. Trench guns were not takedown models, they had fixed barrels...

[@user-ou4pf3wo4u]

Найз 👍👍👍

[@lonpearson2134]

Would have nice to see the kind of fluids used for the various stages. Good job on making it serviceable again. Looks and functions great now.

[@Workerbee-zy5nx]

Bravo. Looks classic.

[@GG-sj2wg]

I have a a 1897. It was my grandfather’s. It’s in pretty good shape. Don’t know that I would want to run modern shells through it however.

[@woodman4550]

1897s were made well into the 1950s. I have shot hundreds of round thru mine. They were well made guns. early 16 gauge had a short chamber tho. 4those you would not shoot modern shells thru.

[@rickreeve1246]

dubble 0 buck works great in them

[@johnfugate3432]

Enjoyed your work saving history instead of destroying it

[@atticusnicol151]

You did such a great job with this restoration, You restored it. well also making sure it still look as if it was properly aged ❤

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

Your attention to detail is absolutely amazing

[@andrewmartin808]

Great job, Congratulations!!!

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Nicely done! I liked the shroud on there, had that Trench Gun aesthetic, but looks good.

[@DanielRhey98]

You did an excellent job at restoring that! The original condition that you got it in at that point it would have been just wall art but restoring it to complete working order that's amazing! Most other people would have not have done that most would have tossed it or as I said previously, wall art.

[@mr.kenslifeshop4034]

I want to go on like this to restore so bad I am going to do a ton of magnet fishing this year hopefully I find one. Definitely on my bucket list.

[@Msherwood5341]

meanwhile I still cant get a rusted bolt out of a 10 year old toyota.

[@rfnatureboy]

At 37 seconds you can read Winchester on barrel as he disassembles it. For his $$$ I hope it is real. Nice Job!

[@rikarson2098]

Beautiful work and attention to detail. Loved watching. But...the heat shield.

[@valneisantoscostacosta5645]

Ich liebe es, diese Restaurierungen zu sehen 😊

[@kouriier6112]

no way yall ruined a trench gun for this video

[@joshp2542]

It's a takedown civilian model. Trench guns only came with fixed barrels.

[@adriankaill9413]

I'm always suspicious of these types of restorations... I apologise if I'm wrong, but I'm not convinced

[@HashPapi]

I feel like everything was too smooth and had a lot of parts that were completely intact for it to be so old and "ruined" :/

[@aidanacebo9529]

I miss my Winchester 97. first gun I ever bought. paid 200$ for it while I was camping out in rural Oregon, found it at an antique store. was a solid-frame first year gun, long barrel, full taper choke bore. someone had painted the pump grip some sort of grey, but the stock was still pretty. I cleaned and re-stained the pump grip on a picnic table while camping out in the high desert grassland. ended up using it to drive off a mountain lion during my stay there.

[@davidcoudriet8439]

I have one similar. Rescued from a house fire, it was locked solid with ash and rust. Quite a project!

[@SHANKAR-Nitrr]

Use sand blaster and also polish some parts as well

[@lion.Interview]

So what if its fake, its still enjoyable to watch

[@666toysoldier]

Great restoration of a classic firearm. I've done some restoration, mostly stock work. I think using urethane glue is overkill. With a cracked stock (not completely broken off) I spread the crack a little and apply Elmer's wood glue, then blow it into the crack. I worked in surgery, and that's the longest piece of Penrose drain you used to secure the separate piece. I use Esmarch bandages for the same purpose. The key to preventing it from splitting again is to slightly adjust the bedding.

[@marvinprice6476]

The slide action at the end was beautiful 😍

[@vmanish7463]

Imagine if this will be restored again after a hundred years😶

[@scott6828]

Because of the bayonet stud on the barrel it looks more like the shotguns the US military purchased for World War I in 1917....sometimes referred to as a "Trench Gun" because these were great in the treches.

[@JammyCrackcorn]

I think a 1” Plumbling Wire Brush would work great in the tube!!

[@bgdavenport]

Wow! A real conservation resto!

[@timothyedmiston8756]

Well done

[@F76986jhg]

Eu gostaria sim de ver tanto a restauração das armas como a fabricação de novas peças das peças da mesma, Obrigado pelo ótimo vídeo.

[@RoboticKnight0Z]

Seeing one of my favorite shotguns getting fixed is wonderful to my eyes

[@Carlteezus]

Oh boy, this was super calming, thank you

[@joshuae.m.wright7566]

I understand not doing to much in the sense of keeping the gun as original as possible. But did you put oil or anything on the barrel and mechanism to protect it?

[@holocaust_2.0]

We can hope.

[@kevinhorning3624]

my favorite shotgun.

[@codycorippo5974]

Finally a real gun restoration video, also with one of my favorite shotguns

[@bw4593]

I like that you didn’t go to far with any re-finishing and honoring the wear

[@BluuJourney]

I really enjoyed this

[@j.a.r.family2576]

Why does everything you restore look exactly the same in "rust" and age? I hope don't think these things have actually been discovered and naturally patina. That old and rust but the wood is just fine.

[@rainman2222]

@@PracticalReformation this video appears to be real that is real pitting on the metal. It would be really hard to fake that.

[@ryanvess6162]

The amount of moisture it takes to rust steel and rot wood is VERY different

[@ericross5048]

I’m suspicious, I saw a video recently about a real restoration channel calling out fake ones.

[@Frittrich]

Looks like it was painted in some rust color. Maybe sprayed with some salt water I dont know. There are many fake restoration channels out there

[@rainman2222]

@@Frittrich dude the metal is very pitted, it would be impossible to fake that

[@drew65sep]

A piece of history well worth the effort and cost to bring back to life.